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I know my kids div 1 school has a club team where 1/2-3/4 of the div 1 roster wind up playing on by senior year. Still playing quality games in the club world. All the reasons kids enjoy playing a sport can be met in the club world also if it gets to much playing D1 ball. Pick the school first.


Players moving to club rosters was not significant as a whole. I agree--pick the school first. But for some (and it seems to grow each year) the verbal commitment is made far too early for the best fit to be considered. A recent Newsday article even stated coaches are happy with a 50% success rate with verbal commits. That is not good for the student athlete.

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I'm guessing this is the best thread to discuss my ongoing "study" of the Long Island 2013 class and, as a class, where they stand today in regards to their lacrosse careers. This is the third year I have posted this.

USA Lacrosse has found that roughly 50% of all recruited players are playing the game of lacrosse by their senior year. Long Island players in 2013 were at 58% with 43% playing significant minutes in a game. The remaining 15% played some minutes in a limited role.

There was a huge movement of players who no longer play from sophomore to junior year, which is expected. Playing time, school work and possible injury without a red shirt figures into this number, which is 28%. It was 8% last year.

The remaining 14% were redshirt or injury reflected by little or no playing time.

These numbers will adjust downward by next year if trends continue. The overall number should still be greater than the 50% average, but that is also expected as Long Island has more quality players as compared with the lacrosse group as a whole nationwide.

Just a little food for thought for anyone going through the recruiting process in high school. There are so many non-lacrosse variables to think about and don't lose sight of that.

Just one more year of crunching numbers! Whew!


GREAT STUFF! What this shows again is that once these kids become young adults they start making their own decisions to mommy and daddies dismay and half CHOOSE not to play. Parents need to be aware of this when they keep pushing and pushing. FIFTY PERCENT wont finish college playing THATS A FACT. 1 out of 2 will quit before the graduate.

Pick a school that best fits your child's academic and social needs because when they stop playing, will they want to finish out their degree at the school they are attending????????????????


Do these stats only apply to D1 athletes or are all 3 divisions included?


Let me follow up on my own comment to correct my initial statement. D3 players, while small to the sample size in total, had 68% playing after junior year. Many of those players came from small D3 schools with weaker programs.

Strong academic D3 schools (very high academic standards but very expensive) had very high participation rates (96%!!) but these schools also have very high 4 year graduation rates--students don't transfer from these schools. These are your NESCAC schools (probably the best D3 lacrosse conference; Hamilton beat eventual D2 champ Florida Southern during the regular season), Washington & Lee, Gettysburg, Franklin & Marshall, etc. Low acceptance rates, high graduation rates and huge endowments--great options for a lot of students if they have the grades.

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I know my kids div 1 school has a club team where 1/2-3/4 of the div 1 roster wind up playing on by senior year. Still playing quality games in the club world. All the reasons kids enjoy playing a sport can be met in the club world also if it gets to much playing D1 ball. Pick the school first.


Players moving to club rosters was not significant as a whole. I agree--pick the school first. But for some (and it seems to grow each year) the verbal commitment is made far too early for the best fit to be considered. A recent Newsday article even stated coaches are happy with a 50% success rate with verbal commits. That is not good for the student athlete.


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Odds are you are not looking at a school the same way at 18 that you did when you were 14
Sports are a vessel to help you arrive at the best educational spot you can to aid you in the journey you have for the rest of your life

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I'm guessing this is the best thread to discuss my ongoing "study" of the Long Island 2013 class and, as a class, where they stand today in regards to their lacrosse careers. This is the third year I have posted this.

USA Lacrosse has found that roughly 50% of all recruited players are playing the game of lacrosse by their senior year. Long Island players in 2013 were at 58% with 43% playing significant minutes in a game. The remaining 15% played some minutes in a limited role.

There was a huge movement of players who no longer play from sophomore to junior year, which is expected. Playing time, school work and possible injury without a red shirt figures into this number, which is 28%. It was 8% last year.

The remaining 14% were redshirt or injury reflected by little or no playing time.

These numbers will adjust downward by next year if trends continue. The overall number should still be greater than the 50% average, but that is also expected as Long Island has more quality players as compared with the lacrosse group as a whole nationwide.

Just a little food for thought for anyone going through the recruiting process in high school. There are so many non-lacrosse variables to think about and don't lose sight of that.

Just one more year of crunching numbers! Whew!


GREAT STUFF! What this shows again is that once these kids become young adults they start making their own decisions to mommy and daddies dismay and half CHOOSE not to play. Parents need to be aware of this when they keep pushing and pushing. FIFTY PERCENT wont finish college playing THATS A FACT. 1 out of 2 will quit before the graduate.

Pick a school that best fits your child's academic and social needs because when they stop playing, will they want to finish out their degree at the school they are attending????????????????


Do these stats only apply to D1 athletes or are all 3 divisions included?


All divisions. Percentages by division do not vary, which I thought was interesting.


The jealous haters on this site will not believe your statistics.

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So the take away is there is a 50/50 chance my daughter won't be playing in college by her senior year when I am no longer there to push her so we better pick a school she likes so if she "retires' she still would want to stay at her school and get the degree of her choice (not the degree her coach wants her to get).

Sobering facts to embrace after running up and down the east coast for almost a decade

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would be interesting to see if there is a difference in the statistics between athletes with a significant athletic scholarship ( say 25% overall costs ) compared to the athletes with little or no athletic money on the D1 level.

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That would be impossible to segment out...financial aid would never be disclosed...

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would be interesting to see if there is a difference in the statistics between athletes with a significant athletic scholarship ( say 25% overall costs ) compared to the athletes with little or no athletic money on the D1 level.


We have seen many people walk away from a year of athletic money in their senior year.

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