US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Conflicts! When HS Coaches Incorporate Summer Tournament Teams in Town

how does one feel pressured to play summer lax or spend $1000 doing so

Because they think the coach will remember years later when their kid is on the bubble of making varsity. The fiction is the coach will be loyal and reward those who have supported his summer program over the years. Conversely, if your kid doesn't support the coach's program he will be "blackballed" and unable to play varsity. Having been through this in a major lacrosse town, all I can say is we did not find that to be true. In our town the best kids play. Period. Nobody remembers all the checks you wrote when some other kid comes along, having never played in the summer program, and is just flat-out better. And as you might have guessed, I am in the category of someone who wrote lots of checks and then saw my son passed over for a new kid that was objectively better. It is what it is.....just be an educated consumer.

The idiots at Sachem north are charging $950 for the summer. and people are dumb enough to pay. they're afraid their kids will get black balled once they start playing in school. all of them are afraid. u gotta see the parents. there's a line of them trying to shake the coaches hands at tournaments and practices and kiss up. If their kids are good enough to play varsity lax when the season starts they'll get plenty of playing time. u don't have to play summer lax for $950. that's absurd. these coaches are getting greedy. lining their pockets and interfering with the start of football practice. that's how selfish they are. so if your kid plays football and is a starter on that football team he's forced to make a choice. play summer lax which means nothing or miss football practice and lose out to a kid who wants his position. it's just ridiculous. for all u football parents who's kids r playing summer lax.....don't complain when your kid isn't getting much football playing time in games come the fall. keep lining the lax coaches pockets. brilliant idea.

Please tell me what club team you can play on for the summer for less than $950? I would be very interested in having my son try out for that team and saving some money.

For this poster and the person who responded with the 875 TLI fee after this....Curious if this is all inclusive? Tourney fees included?

I am tired of seeing all of these town programs claim they are different than travel. They are all FOR PROFIT LACROSSE PROGRAMS just like all of the other TRAVEL programs including Sachem, Sachem East, Smithtown, etc. It seems some of these guys have got together at sachem and PRICE FIXED registration at $475.00 from 1st grade through 5th Grade for four tournaments and some practices with prices escalating from there. These kind of programs do not consider the family that can't afford that. The youth programs charges a little more that $100.00 for the PAL season but they want to charge $475.00 for a couple of months over the summer. What these coaches are doing is taking away opportunities for kids in their own community to play, not creating them.

They bully the parents and youth of the community to join or as the email says from the varsity coach they will get someone to take your place if you don't play with them. Although it has nothing to do with the schools OR DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR they want you to feel if you play outside of the community its bad and you will be punished OVER THE SUMMER.

This has nothing to do with youth organizations, this is about creating a second income for these coaches and their assistants. Don't believe me ASK YOUR TOWN FOR ITS NON-PROFIT STATUS. I bet you not one of them can do it. My problem is at least you know what you get with those guys. The hIgh school coaches bullying parents and kids want you to think they do this out of the kindness of there heart. lol.

If you play for travel during the school year and miss something that would be different but over the summer. Its over the top.

My school has you all beat. WM charges $1250 for 4 tourn.'s. 1 of those 4 is a tourn. they ran so just imagine how much money they walked away with. It is a shame the school board allows this and doesn't see it as a conflict.

There were barely any coaches at these tourn' s and the only thing worse then this summer season was watching the parents behavior with the coaches

On a side note, in the spring the kids have to sell $200 dollars worth of cards to help out with cost of coaches on the HS varsity and JV.

Do the Athletic Directors in these districts turn a blind eye to this?

I would say yes. If parents don't complain they will let it continue.

There were complaints in my town, AD didn't do a thing about it.

Stop your crying. If your kids good enough he will play. Its that plain and simple. No one seems to worry about the coaches and their commitment. The time and effort spent in putting a good product on the field is a difficult task. Having the kids play together from the same high school is a great thing for cohesiveness and seeing who is who in game situations. Should the coaches do it for free. Do you work for free. Don't think so.

Stop your crying. If your kids good enough he will play. Its that plain and simple. No one seems to worry about the coaches and their commitment. The time and effort spent in putting a good product on the field is a difficult task. Having the kids play together from the same high school is a great thing for cohesiveness and seeing who is who in game situations. Should the coaches do it for free. Do you work for free. Don't think so.

First of all if your kid is the next tier down in your town, they aren't making the A or AA club teams. They are probably better off staying in town and getting playing time because the studs are playing outside on top clubs. Also, be careful what you wish for. 6 or 7 high school head coaches from top LI programs have just aligned themselves with the LI Outlaws by being appointed to their board. Let's hope this doesn't become the trend. If so, instead of paying 900-1000 to your coach, you can pay $2400 to the outlaws our another club so your son can play on a B or C team.

I am tired of seeing all of these town programs claim they are different than travel. They are all FOR PROFIT LACROSSE PROGRAMS just like all of the other TRAVEL programs including Sachem, Sachem East, Smithtown, etc. It seems some of these guys have got together at sachem and PRICE FIXED registration at $475.00 from 1st grade through 5th Grade for four tournaments and some practices with prices escalating from there. These kind of programs do not consider the family that can't afford that. The youth programs charges a little more that $100.00 for the PAL season but they want to charge $475.00 for a couple of months over the summer. What these coaches are doing is taking away opportunities for kids in their own community to play, not creating them.

They bully the parents and youth of the community to join or as the email says from the varsity coach they will get someone to take your place if you don't play with them. Although it has nothing to do with the schools OR DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR they want you to feel if you play outside of the community its bad and you will be punished OVER THE SUMMER.

This has nothing to do with youth organizations, this is about creating a second income for these coaches and their assistants. Don't believe me ASK YOUR TOWN FOR ITS NON-PROFIT STATUS. I bet you not one of them can do it. My problem is at least you know what you get with those guys. The hIgh school coaches bullying parents and kids want you to think they do this out of the kindness of there heart. lol.

If you play for travel during the school year and miss something that would be different but over the summer. Its over the top.

All of these coaches are taking advantage of their positions as EDUCATORS. If they did it the right way they wouldn't have to intimidate anyone with the idea of that if they don't pay these outrageous fees to pay for the school team over the summer they would be blackballed by the school. There is no regulation on any of this. Sachem you better get prepared because this is going to the the Board of Education, Superintendent as the AD may be involved too.

First of all if your kid is the next tier down in your town, they aren't making the A or AA club teams. They are probably better off staying in town and getting playing time because the studs are playing outside on top clubs. Also, be careful what you wish for. 6 or 7 high school head coaches from top LI programs have just aligned themselves with the LI Outlaws by being appointed to their board. Let's hope this doesn't become the trend. If so, instead of paying 900-1000 to your coach, you can pay $2400 to the outlaws our another club so your son can play on a B or C team.

WELL SAID - Thank God someone on here states facts not fiction!

I think you are crazy. There are travel programs charging $3500+ and several others in the $2800 range. Other "committed" town teams are $1800+ (e.g. GC). There are a lot of things you can say about conflicts in this area. However, you have s weak argument if you are trying to make the case that these Sachem frees are shockingly high.