Girls 2021 - 8th Grade Fall 2016/ Summer 2017

It's the start of the Fall 2016/Spring 2017 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

Any teams expecting big changes this year?

12 days and counting until tryouts. The big question is who shows up trying to crash the party and join a top tier team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

12 days and counting until tryouts. The big question is who shows up trying to crash the party and join a top tier team.

The bigger question is who doesn't show up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

12 days and counting until tryouts. The big question is who shows up trying to crash the party and join a top tier team.

I thought YJ was the only top tier team? What tryouts are you talking about? Isn't every othe club just a B team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

12 days and counting until tryouts. The big question is who shows up trying to crash the party and join a top tier team.

I thought YJ was the only top tier team? What tryouts are you talking about? Isn't every othe club just a B team?

Yes. Compared to YJ, M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, Stars, etc

Will YJ B actually be a stronger team next summer with all the demoted A players or will they just leave like years past?

From a Maryland parent. Tryouts this year will be very telling. Lots of pressure already on these girls vying for spots on the tip teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From a Maryland parent. Tryouts this year will be very telling. Lots of pressure already on these girls vying for spots on the tip teams.

Do you really think there will be a lot of movement on the tope teams? Skywalkers had a small roster, so they have room to grow. Having seen all these teams, you really think there will be players expecting to move to M&D or Heros at this point?

Hero's had 20 field players. M&D more. Sky Walkers 15. Each of those teams have 5 or 6 studs headed to big-time D1 schools, 5 or 6 with super potential, and the balance with decent skills that compliment the standouts. Those complimentary players can all be replaced by movement of A players from other clubs. I just don't see a lot of loyalty to players, just loyalty to program reputation. I hope I am proven wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hero's had 20 field players. M&D more. Sky Walkers 15. Each of those teams have 5 or 6 studs headed to big-time D1 schools, 5 or 6 with super potential, and the balance with decent skills that compliment the standouts. Those complimentary players can all be replaced by movement of A players from other clubs. I just don't see a lot of loyalty to players, just loyalty to program reputation. I hope I am proven wrong.

Exactly. But how many of those top players on the teams are going to move? M&D isn't going to replace the bottom 5 kids on the team with bottom 5 kids from another team. None of the top teams would do that at risk of messing with team chemistry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hero's had 20 field players. M&D more. Sky Walkers 15. Each of those teams have 5 or 6 studs headed to big-time D1 schools, 5 or 6 with super potential, and the balance with decent skills that compliment the standouts. Those complimentary players can all be replaced by movement of A players from other clubs. I just don't see a lot of loyalty to players, just loyalty to program reputation. I hope I am proven wrong.

Exactly. But how many of those top players on the teams are going to move? M&D isn't going to replace the bottom 5 kids on the team with bottom 5 kids from another team. None of the top teams would do that at risk of messing with team chemistry.

On LI nearly all the top players among all the clubs are trying to get on the top YJ team. Never see top players flow the other way. I see M&D as about the ultimate landing spot in MD, but you also have much better second and third options.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hero's had 20 field players. M&D more. Sky Walkers 15. Each of those teams have 5 or 6 studs headed to big-time D1 schools, 5 or 6 with super potential, and the balance with decent skills that compliment the standouts. Those complimentary players can all be replaced by movement of A players from other clubs. I just don't see a lot of loyalty to players, just loyalty to program reputation. I hope I am proven wrong.

Exactly. But how many of those top players on the teams are going to move? M&D isn't going to replace the bottom 5 kids on the team with bottom 5 kids from another team. None of the top teams would do that at risk of messing with team chemistry.

On LI nearly all the top players among all the clubs are trying to get on the top YJ team. Never see top players flow the other way. I see M&D as about the ultimate landing spot in MD, but you also have much better second and third options.

For the most part, once girls are on M&D, Heros and Skywalkers they don't move unless they feel there is a better opportunity to play or they get cut. The top girls don't go from Skywalkers and Hero's to M&D. This is why there are so many good teams in MD as opposed to the way it is in LI where they all gravitate to one place.

If you think M &D isn't capable or willing to replace their bottom 5 with new girls as a result of team chemistry, I got some unfortunate news for you. These clubs have very little loyalty towards previous years rosters, nor should they. My guess is there will be a half dozen girls from different clubs that stand out and M&D (or any of the top clubs for that matter) will snatch them up hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. Happens every year. If your daughter finds herself at the lower end of the roster, I hope you have registered her for at least one other club tryout or are prepared to play on the B team.

Agree 100%. Unless your kid is a "can't miss" prospect, no roster slot is guaranteed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think M &D isn't capable or willing to replace their bottom 5 with new girls as a result of team chemistry, I got some unfortunate news for you. These clubs have very little loyalty towards previous years rosters, nor should they. My guess is there will be a half dozen girls from different clubs that stand out and M&D (or any of the top clubs for that matter) will snatch them up hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. Happens every year. If your daughter finds herself at the lower end of the roster, I hope you have registered her for at least one other club tryout or are prepared to play on the B team.

Well at this year, M&D did that at the 2021 level. I guess we will see what happens. As good as that team is, their bottom 5 is about as good as a lot of teams top 10.

LI needs another club to come along with a director with the energy and passion to build a quality program. Passion for the sport not just motivation for $$. They need to have a development plan, strong understanding of the sport year round development, access to facilities, and solid coaching/coaches who share that vision.

My daughter does not play YJ. I do not like her but respect what she has done (not a fan of current business practices, but I blame the lemmings more than her). But my understanding is that she started YJ about 15 years ago when girls lacrosse was still in its relative infancy. So she was fairly young with her own young children when she started. So starting YJ must of been a labor of love for her as much if not more than the financial part. Today it will be hard to find a person willing to commit so much of oneself t start something such as she did that has grown into the huge business it is now. Now people go into this for the quick and instant $$.

It will be rare to find someone with that sort of passion and patience needed to put together another highly successful travel program. So if you are looking for a program, look at the directors commitment, their plan, and whether their coaches buy into what the director is saying. It is a tough ask to find that out, but they are good questions to ask.

You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Igloo have 2020 0r 2019 program?

There wasn't any additions/subtractions from M&Ds team last August? 4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Let's see how many stud players return. Sorry but heard a lot of gripping from some of the parents this summer.

MD > NY

Orioles > Yankees and Mets

Ravens > Giants and Jets

Michael Phelps RULES !!

OOOOOOOOOOOh say does that Star Spangled ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD > NY

Orioles > Yankees and Mets

Ravens > Giants and Jets

Michael Phelps RULES !!

OOOOOOOOOOOh say does that Star Spangled ...

You forgot to mention how awesome Baltimore is as a city.... what a gem to leave off the bounties list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Let's see how many stud players return. Sorry but heard a lot of gripping from some of the parents this summer.

Was not impressed with the brand of very ugly lacrosse this club played at this age group. Looked like plan was to give it to the one or two athletic girls on the team and let them try to plow through the double and triple slide defense. May work against weak teams, looks completely silly against good defense. Even girls with far more skill and athletism get the idea that this style of lacrosse is PAL lax at best. Ugly to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Let's see how many stud players return. Sorry but heard a lot of gripping from some of the parents this summer.

Was not impressed with the brand of very ugly lacrosse this club played at this age group. Looked like plan was to give it to the one or two athletic girls on the team and let them try to plow through the double and triple slide defense. May work against weak teams, looks completely silly against good defense. Even girls with far more skill and athletism get the idea that this style of lacrosse is PAL lax at best. Ugly to watch.

What you have described is the way all LI teams play lacrosse these days. Any wonder they can't win in MD where the girls are actually coached and learn to play as a team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Let's see how many stud players return. Sorry but heard a lot of gripping from some of the parents this summer.

Was not impressed with the brand of very ugly lacrosse this club played at this age group. Looked like plan was to give it to the one or two athletic girls on the team and let them try to plow through the double and triple slide defense. May work against weak teams, looks completely silly against good defense. Even girls with far more skill and athletism get the idea that this style of lacrosse is PAL lax at best. Ugly to watch.

What you have described is the way all LI teams play lacrosse these days. Any wonder they can't win in MD where the girls are actually coached and learn to play as a team?

Which top YJ team cannot win in MD ?The team you are talking about plays that way because daddy coach will only let little princess go to goal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD > NY

Orioles > Yankees and Mets

Ravens > Giants and Jets

Michael Phelps RULES !!

OOOOOOOOOOOh say does that Star Spangled ...

Md has crabs --- N.Y. is an Empire

Orioles have won 3 world series (thats Cute)--------yankees have 1 out of every 4 World series or championship

Ravens were stolen from Indy and won 2 (again cute) -------Giants 4 jets 1

It's ok little brother keep trying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Let's see how many stud players return. Sorry but heard a lot of gripping from some of the parents this summer.

Was not impressed with the brand of very ugly lacrosse this club played at this age group. Looked like plan was to give it to the one or two athletic girls on the team and let them try to plow through the double and triple slide defense. May work against weak teams, looks completely silly against good defense. Even girls with far more skill and athletism get the idea that this style of lacrosse is PAL lax at best. Ugly to watch.

What you have described is the way all LI teams play lacrosse these days. Any wonder they can't win in MD where the girls are actually coached and learn to play as a team?

Which top YJ team cannot win in MD ?The team you are talking about plays that way because daddy coach will only let little princess go to goal.

You sir are clueless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Let's see how many stud players return. Sorry but heard a lot of gripping from some of the parents this summer.

Was not impressed with the brand of very ugly lacrosse this club played at this age group. Looked like plan was to give it to the one or two athletic girls on the team and let them try to plow through the double and triple slide defense. May work against weak teams, looks completely silly against good defense. Even girls with far more skill and athletism get the idea that this style of lacrosse is PAL lax at best. Ugly to watch.

What you have described is the way all LI teams play lacrosse these days. Any wonder they can't win in MD where the girls are actually coached and learn to play as a team?

Which top YJ team cannot win in MD ?The team you are talking about plays that way because daddy coach will only let little princess go to goal.

Off the top of my head this year? 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD > NY

Orioles > Yankees and Mets

Ravens > Giants and Jets

Michael Phelps RULES !!

OOOOOOOOOOOh say does that Star Spangled ...

Md has crabs --- N.Y. is an Empire

Orioles have won 3 world series (thats Cute)--------yankees have 1 out of every 4 World series or championship

Ravens were stolen from Indy and won 2 (again cute) -------Giants 4 jets 1

It's ok little brother keep trying

Ravens were actually stolen from Cleveland. Colts left Baltimore for Indiana.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Let's see how many stud players return. Sorry but heard a lot of gripping from some of the parents this summer.

Was not impressed with the brand of very ugly lacrosse this club played at this age group. Looked like plan was to give it to the one or two athletic girls on the team and let them try to plow through the double and triple slide defense. May work against weak teams, looks completely silly against good defense. Even girls with far more skill and athletism get the idea that this style of lacrosse is PAL lax at best. Ugly to watch.

What you have described is the way all LI teams play lacrosse these days. Any wonder they can't win in MD where the girls are actually coached and learn to play as a team?

Which top YJ team cannot win in MD ?The team you are talking about plays that way because daddy coach will only let little princess go to goal.

Off the top of my head this year? 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 [/quote

Are you sure they didn't take off more than the top of your head like a piece of your brain .
2020 Beat M&D multiple times and proved that they and the previously named team are the two best in country
2021 if they had an actual coach show up they would be better but agreed not as good
2022& 2023 too young to tell but I believe once they are out of pull ups will be just fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]You should look into Igloo. Director committed and passionate. During it for the right reasons - has two girls in the program. Stud players. He looking to develop the girls and have fun along the way.

Let's see how many stud players return. Sorry but heard a lot of gripping from some of the parents this summer.

Was not impressed with the brand of very ugly lacrosse this club played at this age group. Looked like plan was to give it to the one or two athletic girls on the team and let them try to plow through the double and triple slide defense. May work against weak teams, looks completely silly against good defense. Even girls with far more skill and athletism get the idea that this style of lacrosse is PAL lax at best. Ugly to watch.

What you have described is the way all LI teams play lacrosse these days. Any wonder they can't win in MD where the girls are actually coached and learn to play as a team?

Which top YJ team cannot win in MD ?The team you are talking about plays that way because daddy coach will only let little princess go to goal.

Off the top of my head this year? 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 [/quote

Are you sure they didn't take off more than the top of your head like a piece of your brain .
2020 Beat M&D multiple times and proved that they and the previously named team are the two best in country
2021 if they had an actual coach show up they would be better but agreed not as good
2022& 2023 too young to tell but I believe once they are out of pull ups will be just fine

That just sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. YJ 2020 may have beaten M&D this summer, but there is no question as to who got the better of the matchup this year.

You're right, 2021 is not close right now.

Make whatever excuses you want, but YJ 2022 or 2023 is not competitive against MD teams right now.

The original question was which top YJ team cannot win in MD. I believe the answer is most of them.

Can you put in order the best Maryland clubs in order:

M&D
Skywalkers
Diamonds
C2
Redshirts
Heros
Coppermine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you put in order the best Maryland clubs in order:

M&D
Skywalkers
Diamonds
C2
Redshirts
Heros
Coppermine

It depends on the age:
2020:
M&D
Heros
Integrity
Skywalkers
TLC
The Rest
2021:
M&D
Skywalkers
Heros
Stars(In VA but play in MD)
NEMS
TLC
The rest
2022: Top 3 are pretty even
M&D
Heros
TLC
The Rest

Diamonds, C2, Redshirts, Coppermine don't compete with the top teams other than maybe Redshirts 2023 and 2024

The top 3 clubs are M&D, Skywalkers and Heros. Usually very good at all ages.

Agree with the 2021 evaluation. TLC is trying their best to be removed from this ranking altogether

Agree. Several top TLC girls headed to M&D and Heros

The C2 Black 2021. 2022 , 2023 and 2024 teams do compete with top clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Several top TLC girls headed to M&D and Heros

Tell them not to quit their day jobs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The C2 Black 2021. 2022 , 2023 and 2024 teams do compete with top clubs.

Did C2 beat M&D, Heros or Skywalkers this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Several top TLC girls headed to M&D and Heros

No girl on TLC is making M&D. Sorry

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Several top TLC girls headed to M&D and Heros

No girl on TLC is making M&D. Sorry

The best 2 or 3 girls from Diamonds, C2 and TLC will make and will positively impact M&D and Hero's.

Yes - check the NGLL Spring league results If still available. I recall witnessing some close games, ties and yes even wins by C2 Black teams against the top clubs (particularly their younger teams) My point is they compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes - check the NGLL Spring league results If still available. I recall witnessing some close games, ties and yes even wins by C2 Black teams against the top clubs (particularly their younger teams) My point is they compete.

Come on now. C2 lost to Heros 15-4 and to Skywalkers 13-4 and didn't play M&D. They also lost to MD United 10-4.

Again. C2 hasn't competed with the top teams. M&D, Skywalkers and Heros are the top teams at this age. Beating Diamonds and Renegades.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Several top TLC girls headed to M&D and Heros

No girl on TLC is making M&D. Sorry

The best 2 or 3 girls from Diamonds, C2 and TLC will make and will positively impact M&D and Hero's.

The best 2 or 3 girls from TLC are not leaving TLC. Some of the girls on TLC are there because they were cut by M&D and Heros.

I can guarantee you that no one from Diamonds or C2 will take anyone's spot on Heros or M&D.

My bad thought you were referring to the C2 club as a whole. Agree, their 2021 Black team was not very good against top teams. Although, looks like they defeated TLC Red and tied NEMS to make the playoffs. They would have been blown out by M&D.

Are you sure they didn't take off more than the top of your head like a piece of your brain .
2020 Beat M&D multiple times and proved that they and the previously named team are the two best in country
2021 if they had an actual coach show up they would be better but agreed not as good
2022& 2023 too young to tell but I believe once they are out of pull ups will be just fine
[/quote]

That just sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. YJ 2020 may have beaten M&D this summer, but there is no question as to who got the better of the matchup this year.

You're right, 2021 is not close right now.

Make whatever excuses you want, but YJ 2022 or 2023 is not competitive against MD teams right now.

The original question was which top YJ team cannot win in MD. I believe the answer is most of them. [/quote]

So why are the younger (2021-down) unable to beat MD teams? Will this trend continue and do any othe LI based programs have a shot to take over the throne? I can't believe the gap is pure talent so are the top teams not made up,of the best girls?

If I'm not mistaken, 3 girls from MD United made M&D last fall, one who played on the MDU B team. No outsiders are ever good enough to make the team, huh?

Why are Maryland teams overall better than LI teams? Coaching? Talent? experience? Love of the game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I'm not mistaken, 3 girls from MD United made M&D last fall, one who played on the MDU B team. No outsiders are ever good enough to make the team, huh?

You're right. They did. We aren't talking about last year though are we? We'll see what happens.

if you had to choose between M&D and YJ for your daughter. Which team would you choose?

[quote=Anonymous]Why are Maryland teams overall better than LI teams? Coaching? Talent? experience? Love of the game? [/quote

They are bigger faster and taller. But NOT older!! They aren't. MD parents swear they are all young for their class. It is just a coincidence! They aren't older. Repeat - they are NOT older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if you had to choose between M&D and YJ for your daughter. Which team would you choose?

Don't forget to set the hook when you get a real nibble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Why are Maryland teams overall better than LI teams? Coaching? Talent? experience? Love of the game? [/quote

They are bigger faster and taller. But NOT older!! They aren't. MD parents swear they are all young for their class. It is just a coincidence! They aren't older. Repeat - they are NOT older.

You're right. They aren't older. Thanks for pointing that out.

Maybe you should realize how poorly coached the LI teams are in general. The plan of 2 athletic girls going to goal over and over just doesn't work anymore. The MD teams practice defense enough to stop this. The MD teams move the ball and play as a team. Instead of coming up with fabricated excuses of older girls, maybe you guys should look in the mirror in terms of who you let coach your daughters and whether they are getting better or if they are standing around watching a couple "superstars" dominate the ball on your "Elite" team.

I've seen a lot of discussion here about MD girls being older? I'm not sure I understand the anger? Most Maryland schools have an August 31 cut off. If you turn 6 after August 31, you have to wait until the following year to start kindergarten. I know a lot of private schools don't follow the August 31st deadline. They accept applicants to boost attendance numbers and then have the girls do a pre-first year to catch socially and academically.

from reading the forum seems like M&D is the standard by which all clubs should be modeled after.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Why are Maryland teams overall better than LI teams? Coaching? Talent? experience? Love of the game? [/quote

They are bigger faster and taller. But NOT older!! They aren't. MD parents swear they are all young for their class. It is just a coincidence! They aren't older. Repeat - they are NOT older.

You're right. They aren't older. Thanks for pointing that out.

Maybe you should realize how poorly coached the LI teams are in general. The plan of 2 athletic girls going to goal over and over just doesn't work anymore. The MD teams practice defense enough to stop this. The MD teams move the ball and play as a team. Instead of coming up with fabricated excuses of older girls, maybe you guys should look in the mirror in terms of who you let coach your daughters and whether they are getting better or if they are standing around watching a couple "superstars" dominate the ball on your "Elite" team.

I think you are pretty close but would add club politics that keep players on top teams that don't necessarily belong there. This has clearly driven better players to other programs which is why you have one better than average top team on LI and a bunch of other good teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if you had to choose between M&D and YJ for your daughter. Which team would you choose?

Pretty much dead even, the two top clubs. If you live in MD you go with M&D, if you live in LI you go YJ. Once you drop to second team, all bets are off but YJ def more depth prob because more quality second options in MD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if you had to choose between M&D and YJ for your daughter. Which team would you choose?

Pretty much dead even, the two top clubs. If you live in MD you go with M&D, if you live in LI you go YJ. Once you drop to second team, all bets are off but YJ def more depth prob because more quality second options in MD.

All things being even a coach who invests 2 nights a week practicing will always have steam that outperforms a team who has a coach who makes only half the practices and has never made 50% of tournaments in 3 years. M&D has a Mommy coach who cares about teaching her team.

Who are the best coached teams in this grade on LI? Don't give me best teams we already know who they are. I am talking about a coach that is a difference maker. Don't give me some superstar player who just started coaching either! One has nothing to do with the other. I know DK coaches his elevate team at this age. He seems like a good coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

if you had to choose between M&D and YJ for your daughter. Which team would you choose?

Pretty much dead even, the two top clubs. If you live in MD you go with M&D, if you live in LI you go YJ. Once you drop to second team, all bets are off but YJ def more depth prob because more quality second options in MD.

All things being even a coach who invests 2 nights a week practicing will always have steam that outperforms a team who has a coach who makes only half the practices and has never made 50% of tournaments in 3 years. M&D has a Mommy coach who cares about teaching her team.

She invests a lot more than 2 nights a week. From off season workouts to private workouts on other days of the week. There is a reason they are so good and it starts with her.

No. She has not developed that team. She may indeed be a quality coach that devotes a lot of time and teaching to the team. The team MVP, the biggest difference maker is whoever actively recruits these girls from other programs. The goalie from MD United is a stud and the huge middie came from Redshirts. You can't tell me the rest of the girls are really good because they were developed by the coach.

[quote=Anonymous]Who are the best coached teams in this grade on LI? Don't give me best teams we already know who they are. I am talking about a coach that is a difference maker. Don't give me some superstar player who just started coaching either! One has nothing to do with the other. I know DK coaches his elevate team at this age. He seems like a good coach

Not TG the coaches go back to college and you'll see them sometime next summer. Comical

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No. She has not developed that team. She may indeed be a quality coach that devotes a lot of time and teaching to the team. The team MVP, the biggest difference maker is whoever actively recruits these girls from other programs. The goalie from MD United is a stud and the huge middie came from Redshirts. You can't tell me the rest of the girls are really good because they were developed by the coach.

Seriously? Yeah, they lost 1 game the year before the goalie and the girl from Redshirts came over. They sure were struggling. No one actively recruits the girls. The parents saw how well coached the team was and moved their girls. You are kidding yourself if you think she hasn't developed this team. Either that or you've never watched them play. Yes they have a bunch of great individual players. But they don't play as individuals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've seen a lot of discussion here about MD girls being older? I'm not sure I understand the anger? Most Maryland schools have an August 31 cut off. If you turn 6 after August 31, you have to wait until the following year to start kindergarten. I know a lot of private schools don't follow the August 31st deadline. They accept applicants to boost attendance numbers and then have the girls do a pre-first year to catch socially and academically.

from reading the forum seems like M&D is the standard by which all clubs should be modeled after.

So Maryland girls are older. My daughter was born in October and started kindergarten at the age of four.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've seen a lot of discussion here about MD girls being older? I'm not sure I understand the anger? Most Maryland schools have an August 31 cut off. If you turn 6 after August 31, you have to wait until the following year to start kindergarten. I know a lot of private schools don't follow the August 31st deadline. They accept applicants to boost attendance numbers and then have the girls do a pre-first year to catch socially and academically.

from reading the forum seems like M&D is the standard by which all clubs should be modeled after.

So Maryland girls are older. My daughter was born in October and started kindergarten at the age of four.

I just Googled the requirements. It's easy, look it up yourselves. A child must be 6 years old by September 1st to start first grade. I think the poster above meant you have to be 6 years old by September 1st to start 1st grade, not kindergarten. This confirms what has been said on here at 1,000,000 times...the MD girls are not older, unless you believe everything your club director tells you after another loss to a MD team. Now, move along.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've seen a lot of discussion here about MD girls being older? I'm not sure I understand the anger? Most Maryland schools have an August 31 cut off. If you turn 6 after August 31, you have to wait until the following year to start kindergarten. I know a lot of private schools don't follow the August 31st deadline. They accept applicants to boost attendance numbers and then have the girls do a pre-first year to catch socially and academically.

from reading the forum seems like M&D is the standard by which all clubs should be modeled after.

So Maryland girls are older. My daughter was born in October and started kindergarten at the age of four.

I just Googled the requirements. It's easy, look it up yourselves. A child must be 6 years old by September 1st to start first grade. I think the poster above meant you have to be 6 years old by September 1st to start 1st grade, not kindergarten. This confirms what has been said on here at 1,000,000 times...the MD girls are not older, unless you believe everything your club director tells you after another loss to a MD team. Now, move along.

Actually it just proves that you have a learning problem . Are you actually this stupid or just very dense. First the MD cutoff of sept 1 will in fact make the MD teams on average older than the cut off dates used on long island. If a kid is born in sept, oct, november of 1998 they would be entering college if born on Long island if those same kids were born in MD they would be entering their high school senior year. The cut off date does not account for holdbacks either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've seen a lot of discussion here about MD girls being older? I'm not sure I understand the anger? Most Maryland schools have an August 31 cut off. If you turn 6 after August 31, you have to wait until the following year to start kindergarten. I know a lot of private schools don't follow the August 31st deadline. They accept applicants to boost attendance numbers and then have the girls do a pre-first year to catch socially and academically.

from reading the forum seems like M&D is the standard by which all clubs should be modeled after.

So Maryland girls are older. My daughter was born in October and started kindergarten at the age of four.

I just Googled the requirements. It's easy, look it up yourselves. A child must be 6 years old by September 1st to start first grade. I think the poster above meant you have to be 6 years old by September 1st to start 1st grade, not kindergarten. This confirms what has been said on here at 1,000,000 times...the MD girls are not older, unless you believe everything your club director tells you after another loss to a MD team. Now, move along.

Actually it just proves that you have a learning problem . Are you actually this stupid or just very dense. First the MD cutoff of sept 1 will in fact make the MD teams on average older than the cut off dates used on long island. If a kid is born in sept, oct, november of 1998 they would be entering college if born on Long island if those same kids were born in MD they would be entering their high school senior year. The cut off date does not account for holdbacks either.

So Mr [lacrosse], here's a suggestion. If it bothers your junk that much to constantly lose to MD teams because you have this unfounded idea that the reason for the loss is that the MD girls are older, have your school system change their age requirement date to match the standard-setter...Maryland. 2nd place should always follow what 1st place does. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. So, [lacrosse]...flatter us. Now, go back to massaging CR's feet with that nice, hot oil you know she likes. Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've seen a lot of discussion here about MD girls being older? I'm not sure I understand the anger? Most Maryland schools have an August 31 cut off. If you turn 6 after August 31, you have to wait until the following year to start kindergarten. I know a lot of private schools don't follow the August 31st deadline. They accept applicants to boost attendance numbers and then have the girls do a pre-first year to catch socially and academically.

from reading the forum seems like M&D is the standard by which all clubs should be modeled after.

So Maryland girls are older. My daughter was born in October and started kindergarten at the age of four.

I just Googled the requirements. It's easy, look it up yourselves. A child must be 6 years old by September 1st to start first grade. I think the poster above meant you have to be 6 years old by September 1st to start 1st grade, not kindergarten. This confirms what has been said on here at 1,000,000 times...the MD girls are not older, unless you believe everything your club director tells you after another loss to a MD team. Now, move along.

Actually it just proves that you have a learning problem . Are you actually this stupid or just very dense. First the MD cutoff of sept 1 will in fact make the MD teams on average older than the cut off dates used on long island. If a kid is born in sept, oct, november of 1998 they would be entering college if born on Long island if those same kids were born in MD they would be entering their high school senior year. The cut off date does not account for holdbacks either.

So Mr [lacrosse], here's a suggestion. If it bothers your junk that much to constantly lose to MD teams because you have this unfounded idea that the reason for the loss is that the MD girls are older, have your school system change their age requirement date to match the standard-setter...Maryland. 2nd place should always follow what 1st place does. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. So, [lacrosse]...flatter us. Now, go back to massaging CR's feet with that nice, hot oil you know she likes. Loser.

Yeah MD the real standard -setter , for what rioting. Hilarious that you are proven to be a moron because you can't understand the concept of different age cut offs so you switch your argument to we should copy what you bunch of illiterate morons do . The only time my junk gets bothered is when your backwoods , toothless wife keeps hitting on me .

Long Islander here and this whole age based argument seems like a smoke screen to the real issue that YJ needs to do a better job of recruiting and developing the bigger, stronger and faster girls. I guarantee LI has the right mix of players that can go toe to toe with the MD girls. There's no doubt in my mind CR could put together the best team in any age group that could easily hang with all MD teams but the real question is has YJ become too much of a political machine and more concerned with you scratch my back I will scratch yours?

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Islander here and this whole age based argument seems like a smoke screen to the real issue that YJ needs to do a better job of recruiting and developing the bigger, stronger and faster girls. I guarantee LI has the right mix of players that can go toe to toe with the MD girls. There's no doubt in my mind CR could put together the best team in any age group that could easily hang with all MD teams but the real question is has YJ become too much of a political machine and more concerned with you scratch my back I will scratch yours?

Why do you believe that the top YJ teams already do not beat the MD teams ? Not uncommon for the top TJ teams to lose to MD teams then around 8-9 th grade they start to dominate them ( 2016, 2017) age groups. Don't believe the hype from the MD teams they still lose on a regular basis to YJ .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Islander here and this whole age based argument seems like a smoke screen to the real issue that YJ needs to do a better job of recruiting and developing the bigger, stronger and faster girls. I guarantee LI has the right mix of players that can go toe to toe with the MD girls. There's no doubt in my mind CR could put together the best team in any age group that could easily hang with all MD teams but the real question is has YJ become too much of a political machine and more concerned with you scratch my back I will scratch yours?

Why do you believe that the top YJ teams already do not beat the MD teams ? Not uncommon for the top TJ teams to lose to MD teams then around 8-9 th grade they start to dominate them ( 2016, 2017) age groups. Don't believe the hype from the MD teams they still lose on a regular basis to YJ .

As far as clubs go there is M&D and YJ sitting on top, regardless of age or anything else. The groups of clubs following is certainly stronger from MD than LI.

M&D will only create more separation between themselves and other MD clubs with the addition of the 3-4 girls from competing clubs that are coming over. If you thought they dominated this past year, wait until what they unleash this upcoming season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Islander here and this whole age based argument seems like a smoke screen to the real issue that YJ needs to do a better job of recruiting and developing the bigger, stronger and faster girls. I guarantee LI has the right mix of players that can go toe to toe with the MD girls. There's no doubt in my mind CR could put together the best team in any age group that could easily hang with all MD teams but the real question is has YJ become too much of a political machine and more concerned with you scratch my back I will scratch yours?

Why do you believe that the top YJ teams already do not beat the MD teams ? Not uncommon for the top TJ teams to lose to MD teams then around 8-9 th grade they start to dominate them ( 2016, 2017) age groups. Don't believe the hype from the MD teams they still lose on a regular basis to YJ .

As far as clubs go there is M&D and YJ sitting on top, regardless of age or anything else. The groups of clubs following is certainly stronger from MD than LI.

The important thing to remember after this past season is how valuable the draw is . For the most part who ever controlled the draw at this age group pretty much won the game. At this point M&D seems to be the dominant force off of the draw. Great draw girl and excellent wing play on the circle seem to be invaluable. Enjoy the rest of your summers !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

What clubs have the talent that could move to M&D? All the top girls are already there. Skill + chemistry = no changes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs have the talent that could move to M&D? All the top girls are already there. Skill + chemistry = no changes

Uh oh someone seems nervous about their kids spot. Never get too comfortable on these top teams. If no changes why bother having tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs have the talent that could move to M&D? All the top girls are already there. Skill + chemistry = no changes

Uh oh someone seems nervous about their kids spot. Never get too comfortable on these top teams. If no changes why bother having tryouts?

I think their point was that M&D already has some of the top girls at this age in MD. There aren't girls on other MD teams that are going to come in and make M&D better. I'm sure there will be some cuts, but they aren't going to be game changers as the other poster said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Islander here and this whole age based argument seems like a smoke screen to the real issue that YJ needs to do a better job of recruiting and developing the bigger, stronger and faster girls. I guarantee LI has the right mix of players that can go toe to toe with the MD girls. There's no doubt in my mind CR could put together the best team in any age group that could easily hang with all MD teams but the real question is has YJ become too much of a political machine and more concerned with you scratch my back I will scratch yours?

Why does she have to recruit? Can't she develop her own talent? Seems that she can't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Funny always hear that nonsense. Year after year. Would you like to look at some of the best D1 attackers? Many of the best are not very big ... Megan Whittle, Selena Lasota, Aly Messinger etc. So yes quickness, skill and IQ still matter. In fact you should do yourself a favor and check out a girl from upstate NY who is heading to Florida. I think she might not even be 4'8" and she is awesome. Would likely make your daughter look silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Funny always hear that nonsense. Year after year. Would you like to look at some of the best D1 attackers? Many of the best are not very big ... Megan Whittle, Selena Lasota, Aly Messinger etc. So yes quickness, skill and IQ still matter. In fact you should do yourself a favor and check out a girl from upstate NY who is heading to Florida. I think she might not even be 4'8" and she is awesome. Would likely make your daughter look silly.

Keep dreaming...... Do yourself a favor and look at the rosters for the top D1 programs. There are no 4.8' girls but I'm sure you might have the next mini prodigy on your hands!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Funny always hear that nonsense. Year after year. Would you like to look at some of the best D1 attackers? Many of the best are not very big ... Megan Whittle, Selena Lasota, Aly Messinger etc. So yes quickness, skill and IQ still matter. In fact you should do yourself a favor and check out a girl from upstate NY who is heading to Florida. I think she might not even be 4'8" and she is awesome. Would likely make your daughter look silly.

Keep dreaming...... Do yourself a favor and look at the rosters for the top D1 programs. There are no 4.8' girls but I'm sure you might have the next mini prodigy on your hands!

Not my kid. Saw her at Lake Placid tournament. She is outstanding and heading to the University of Florida. I'm sure she is three times the player your daughter is. Mine is committed to a top ten program and also i'm sure is 3 times the player your kid is. So rather than chirping, how about recognizing the amazing accomplishment it is for a girl that size to make it where she has. If she had listened to people like you, she would have never gotten there. So when you see her on the Florida roster, I expect you will come on here and apologize for being the uninformed jerk that u appear to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZL_Afl11Cs

They are inspirational. And should be respected for their determination and love for this great sport.

I hear West Genesee is pretty good btw.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Funny always hear that nonsense. Year after year. Would you like to look at some of the best D1 attackers? Many of the best are not very big ... Megan Whittle, Selena Lasota, Aly Messinger etc. So yes quickness, skill and IQ still matter. In fact you should do yourself a favor and check out a girl from upstate NY who is heading to Florida. I think she might not even be 4'8" and she is awesome. Would likely make your daughter look silly.

Keep dreaming...... Do yourself a favor and look at the rosters for the top D1 programs. There are no 4.8' girls but I'm sure you might have the next mini prodigy on your hands!

Not my kid. Saw her at Lake Placid tournament. She is outstanding and heading to the University of Florida. I'm sure she is three times the player your daughter is. Mine is committed to a top ten program and also i'm sure is 3 times the player your kid is. So rather than chirping, how about recognizing the amazing accomplishment it is for a girl that size to make it where she has. If she had listened to people like you, she would have never gotten there. So when you see her on the Florida roster, I expect you will come on here and apologize for being the uninformed jerk that u appear to be.

If size is not an advantage then why should we recognize what an accomplishment it is for a girl "that size". Seems to me that you think it's more of a handicap than the original idiot .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Funny always hear that nonsense. Year after year. Would you like to look at some of the best D1 attackers? Many of the best are not very big ... Megan Whittle, Selena Lasota, Aly Messinger etc. So yes quickness, skill and IQ still matter. In fact you should do yourself a favor and check out a girl from upstate NY who is heading to Florida. I think she might not even be 4'8" and she is awesome. Would likely make your daughter look silly.

Keep dreaming...... Do yourself a favor and look at the rosters for the top D1 programs. There are no 4.8' girls but I'm sure you might have the next mini prodigy on your hands!

Not my kid. Saw her at Lake Placid tournament. She is outstanding and heading to the University of Florida. I'm sure she is three times the player your daughter is. Mine is committed to a top ten program and also i'm sure is 3 times the player your kid is. So rather than chirping, how about recognizing the amazing accomplishment it is for a girl that size to make it where she has. If she had listened to people like you, she would have never gotten there. So when you see her on the Florida roster, I expect you will come on here and apologize for being the uninformed jerk that u appear to be.

If size is not an advantage then why should we recognize what an accomplishment it is for a girl "that size". Seems to me that you think it's more of a handicap than the original idiot .

I do love to see the small kids excell, however youth ball is much different than college ball. Most small girls will ride pine in favor of girls with same skill set, but bigger and more athletic. Do you really think a 5'7" swimmer would have any chance against Phelps, no matter what heart and skill were? And I have one tall, one smaller. Both work equally as hard. Sad to say, but genetics is a curse or gift.

You people do realize your talking about 13 yr olds ??? The 4ft11 can end up 5ft8 and the 5ft 5 stay the same ? What a stupid conversation ..at 13yrs old skill , speed, lax iq ..are the only important characteristics ...maybe next link will be related to weight ? Just dumb ..

SS is the best women's lacrosse player that LI has produced. I don't think she is more than 5'3"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SS is the best women's lacrosse player that LI has produced. I don't think she is more than 5'3"

5.6" if you really care

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people do realize your talking about 13 yr olds ??? The 4ft11 can end up 5ft8 and the 5ft 5 stay the same ? What a stupid conversation ..at 13yrs old skill , speed, lax iq ..are the only important characteristics ...maybe next link will be related to weight ? Just dumb ..

I'm sure you are just trying to make a point but you do realize that's it's highly unlikely that a 13yr old girl will grow 9". Probably closer to 1" unless they are a very late bloomer.

Tanner stage 4 usually occurs at age 13 ( start of period) girls grow an average of 2.8 inches for next year or two and reach full height on average by 15 yrs old ..

I do love to see the small kids excell, however youth ball is much different than college ball. Most small girls will ride pine in favor of girls with same skill set, but bigger and more athletic. Do you really think a 5'7" swimmer would have any chance against Phelps, no matter what heart and skill were? And I have one tall, one smaller. Both work equally as hard. Sad to say, but genetics is a curse or gift.[/quote]

That wasn't the point. Yes, all things being equal, size is a help. But in D1 lax, there is still a place for smaller quicker girls as well. You were just given several examples of superstars that are 5'4". Certainly not tiny, but definitely not "tall" either. Lax is not swimming. And, on average, the taller girls are less coordinated and have weaker stick skills. Katrina Dowd is yet another example of a small, great attacker. Lindsey Munday?? And before you say the game is different when they played, they were both recently on the national team. So while size is certainly a help, and makes up for other deficiencies, there is still ample room for skilled, smart, quick athletes in women's lacrosse. These r just facts.

Madison Cyr, Penn State ... 5'3"
Megan Whittle, Maryland ... 5'4"
Selena Lasota, NU ... 5'4"
Aly Messinger, UNC ... 5'4"
Halle Majorana, Syr ... 5'4"
Sammy Jo Tracy UNC ... 5'4"
Kylie Ohlmiller SB ... 5'3"
Sammi Burgess Florida ... 5'3"

These women were all on the first and second team IWLCA all-american teams as attackers. They are 8 of the 14 attackers on these two teams. You guys really need to educate yourselves. The smaller, quick kids with great stick skills and high IQ definitely can play at the highest levels. In fact a great many of them dominate at the highest levels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do love to see the small kids excell, however youth ball is much different than college ball. Most small girls will ride pine in favor of girls with same skill set, but bigger and more athletic. Do you really think a 5'7" swimmer would have any chance against Phelps, no matter what heart and skill were? And I have one tall, one smaller. Both work equally as hard. Sad to say, but genetics is a curse or gift.

That wasn't the point. Yes, all things being equal, size is a help. But in D1 lax, there is still a place for smaller quicker girls as well. You were just given several examples of superstars that are 5'4". Certainly not tiny, but definitely not "tall" either. Lax is not swimming. And, on average, the taller girls are less coordinated and have weaker stick skills. Katrina Dowd is yet another example of a small, great attacker. Lindsey Munday?? And before you say the game is different when they played, they were both recently on the national team. So while size is certainly a help, and makes up for other deficiencies, there is still ample room for skilled, smart, quick athletes in women's lacrosse. These r just facts. [/quote]

Jospeph Schooling is 6' 163 lbs. Phelps is 6'4 193lbs. schooling beat Phelps by over a half a second

It was merely suggested that YJ start recruiting/developing some of the larger girls to combat the so called older MD girls. If it's not about the size of the player stop your whining that you lose because they are older hence bigger.

I also don't think anyone would classify 5.4" as short.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madison Cyr, Penn State ... 5'3"
Megan Whittle, Maryland ... 5'4"
Selena Lasota, NU ... 5'4"
Aly Messinger, UNC ... 5'4"
Halle Majorana, Syr ... 5'4"
Sammy Jo Tracy UNC ... 5'4"
Kylie Ohlmiller SB ... 5'3"
Sammi Burgess Florida ... 5'3"

These women were all on the first and second team IWLCA all-american teams as attackers. They are 8 of the 14 attackers on these two teams. You guys really need to educate yourselves. The smaller, quick kids with great stick skills and high IQ definitely can play at the highest levels. In fact a great many of them dominate at the highest levels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was merely suggested that YJ start recruiting/developing some of the larger girls to combat the so called older MD girls. If it's not about the size of the player stop your whining that you lose because they are older hence bigger.

I also don't think anyone would classify 5.4" as short.

5'4" is short. The girl better be super fast, and unusually skilled to survive in D1 Lax

I have seen a number of posts regarding developing talent over recruiting talent. What are the numbers on the top teams ? How many of the original players ( been playing since 4th grade )are still playing for their team. M&D,YJ,Skywalkers,Hero's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have seen a number of posts regarding developing talent over recruiting talent. What are the numbers on the top teams ? How many of the original players ( been playing since 4th grade )are still playing for their team. M&D,YJ,Skywalkers,Hero's

YJ typically churns 4 each year so by that close to half could be original.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have seen a number of posts regarding developing talent over recruiting talent. What are the numbers on the top teams ? How many of the original players ( been playing since 4th grade )are still playing for their team. M&D,YJ,Skywalkers,Hero's

M&D didn't start until 5th grad when the 2021's started. Half the current team is original girls.

The top clubs B teams really are weak. Part of the reason for tryouts is to build up the talent on the second tier teams. M&D red, Skywalkers white, and TLC white the past two seasons were nothing more than glorified (and poor) rec teams. The talent pool is very diluted in MD after the top 5 A teams.

We are already seeing a welcomed reduction in teams at the 2021 level. Girls that are not A players should absolutely have the ability to learn and have fun playing the game, but not at club costs. Th we are girls (and boys for that part) should be back in the MYLA being developed at $125 a season...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The top clubs B teams really are weak. Part of the reason for tryouts is to build up the talent on the second tier teams. M&D red, Skywalkers white, and TLC white the past two seasons were nothing more than glorified (and poor) rec teams. The talent pool is very diluted in MD after the top 5 A teams.

We are already seeing a welcomed reduction in teams at the 2021 level. Girls that are not A players should absolutely have the ability to learn and have fun playing the game, but not at club costs. Th we are girls (and boys for that part) should be back in the MYLA being developed at $125 a season...

No different on LI in fact some clubs struggled to fill rosters for their B teams and basically took anyone that was willing to write the check.

Yeah, but their M&D car magnet doesn't say M&D Red!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, but their M&D car magnet doesn't say M&D Red!!

Does YJ give out different bumper stickers for the 2,3,4,5 and 6th teams?

Of TG, TE and Liberty which do you think has the potential to come out on top and rival YJA next summer?

We got to play all three this summer at Hofstra and I have to say they are all very good and seemed to be evenly matched.

Anyone care to hare their experience this summer specifically coaching, team chemistry, quality of practices?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Your guarantee is way off. The best prospect to potentially make the team (by far) is a shorter, smaller player. A constant pressure on these threads is coming from a parent of a larger, stronger kid.You have been trying to make your point over and over that this team needs your bigger, stronger daughter. Gets embarrassing at some point. Bigger, stronger is great except the player still needs speed, IQ, skill etc... I have not seen that player out there. Now if a player is taller, stronger and can dominate the draw circle, that is a skill much needed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Your guarantee is way off. The best prospect to potentially make the team (by far) is a shorter, smaller player. A constant pressure on these threads is coming from a parent of a larger, stronger kid.You have been trying to make your point over and over that this team needs your bigger, stronger daughter. Gets embarrassing at some point. Bigger, stronger is great except the player still needs speed, IQ, skill etc... I have not seen that player out there. Now if a player is taller, stronger and can dominate the draw circle, that is a skill much needed.

You are obviously very insecure about your daughters size and need to convince everyone that she makes up for it with her genius lacrosse IQ! I repeat and guarantee that the three to four new additions that have already been identified will be physically bigger and stronger and will replace some of the smaller weaker girls that can't get it done anymore. Oh and don't worry, they have the necessary speed, stick skills and lacrosse IQ to compete at the highest level. You are delusional if you think there's only one other girl on LI worthy of the YJA team.

Not my daughter but what do you mean by bigger ? You referring to weight ?

you know so much, enlighten us?

Does anyone believe there won't be any changes to YJA? Based on my observation this team has slid backwards instead of getting better. Please tell me if I'm off base? Maybe it's not for a lack of talent but clearly all cylinders aren't firing.

According to the bigger comment there might be a scale and a weigh in !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Your guarantee is way off. The best prospect to potentially make the team (by far) is a shorter, smaller player. A constant pressure on these threads is coming from a parent of a larger, stronger kid.You have been trying to make your point over and over that this team needs your bigger, stronger daughter. Gets embarrassing at some point. Bigger, stronger is great except the player still needs speed, IQ, skill etc... I have not seen that player out there. Now if a player is taller, stronger and can dominate the draw circle, that is a skill much needed.

You are obviously very insecure about your daughters size and need to convince everyone that she makes up for it with her genius lacrosse IQ! I repeat and guarantee that the three to four new additions that have already been identified will be physically bigger and stronger and will replace some of the smaller weaker girls that can't get it done anymore. Oh and don't worry, they have the necessary speed, stick skills and lacrosse IQ to compete at the highest level. You are delusional if you think there's only one other girl on LI worthy of the YJA team.

Yeah, like you are some talent assessment guru. Likely you are insecure about the fact that ur darling amazon can't stop tripping over her own feet and has hands like stone. "Hey but she's big and tall and I look at D1 rosters and there's a lot of tall girls." And despite the fact that she can't see the open player and doesn't slide fast enough on D and gets charging calls 4 times a game, you still think she's the one. After all, she's just huge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to the bigger comment there might be a scale and a weigh in !!

That's funny! At least the smaller connected kids that don't make weight will be safe and will just get moved to defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone believe there won't be any changes to YJA? Based on my observation this team has slid backwards instead of getting better. Please tell me if I'm off base? Maybe it's not for a lack of talent but clearly all cylinders aren't firing.

I don't know if they have slid backwards as much as the MD teams have gotten better. M&D added talent to an already good team and SKywalkers was much better this year than the year prior. No embarrassment losing to those teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to the bigger comment there might be a scale and a weigh in !!

That's funny! At least the smaller connected kids that don't make weight will be safe and will just get moved to defense.

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what kind of requirements are bigger stronger faster?? how about skilled !!! good lax IQ !! field vision !! You sound like most of the start up girls from boys programs ...girls lax and boys lax are two different games

Yes, short pint was once able to weave and dodge and score lots of goals but unfortunately those days are numbered I don't care how skilled they are at some point the bigger stronger girls pass them by which has already started to happen. Would guarantee that anyone new coming to YJA wont be on the smaller side.

Your guarantee is way off. The best prospect to potentially make the team (by far) is a shorter, smaller player. A constant pressure on these threads is coming from a parent of a larger, stronger kid.You have been trying to make your point over and over that this team needs your bigger, stronger daughter. Gets embarrassing at some point. Bigger, stronger is great except the player still needs speed, IQ, skill etc... I have not seen that player out there. Now if a player is taller, stronger and can dominate the draw circle, that is a skill much needed.

You are obviously very insecure about your daughters size and need to convince everyone that she makes up for it with her genius lacrosse IQ! I repeat and guarantee that the three to four new additions that have already been identified will be physically bigger and stronger and will replace some of the smaller weaker girls that can't get it done anymore. Oh and don't worry, they have the necessary speed, stick skills and lacrosse IQ to compete at the highest level. You are delusional if you think there's only one other girl on LI worthy of the YJA team.

Big, strong girl parent at it again, it IS embarrassing. Seriously do your daughter a favor, lay off the big and strong crap. Let her make her own statement if she makes the team. You are doing her a disservice and drawing unwanted attention. Let the coaches and directors figure out what the team needs are, you certainly have no idea. Let the process play out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to the bigger comment there might be a scale and a weigh in !!

That's funny! At least the smaller connected kids that don't make weight will be safe and will just get moved to defense.

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

The top 3 defenders could be starting midfielders on any team including this one, they are putting team first.So take it easy on the defenders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to the bigger comment there might be a scale and a weigh in !!

That's funny! At least the smaller connected kids that don't make weight will be safe and will just get moved to defense.

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

The top 3 defenders could be starting midfielders on any team including this one, they are putting team first.So take it easy on the defenders.

I'm sure your fellow parent didn't mean those three, he meant the rest, take it easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to the bigger comment there might be a scale and a weigh in !!

That's funny! At least the smaller connected kids that don't make weight will be safe and will just get moved to defense.

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

The top 3 defenders could be starting midfielders on any team including this one, they are putting team first.So take it easy on the defenders.

Maybe they should go back to midfield because the defense on this team stinks. Next to not being able to win a draw the defense is the weakest link.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to the bigger comment there might be a scale and a weigh in !!

That's funny! At least the smaller connected kids that don't make weight will be safe and will just get moved to defense.

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

The top 3 defenders could be starting midfielders on any team including this one, they are putting team first.So take it easy on the defenders.

Maybe they should go back to midfield because the defense on this team stinks. Next to not being able to win a draw the defense is the weakest link.

This must be a great sideline! Trouble in paradise?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

The top 3 defenders could be starting midfielders on any team including this one, they are putting team first.So take it easy on the defenders. [/quote]

Maybe they should go back to midfield because the defense on this team stinks. Next to not being able to win a draw the defense is the weakest link. [/quote]

This must be a great sideline! Trouble in paradise? [/quote]
No paradise here, nothing wrong with the players on the team, everything wrong with the chemistry and how a few girls treat the others (the perceived "stars" treat the bottom half of the roster like dirt). Funny someone mentioned draws, because the problems with the draws comes from the most verbally abusive girl on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

The top 3 defenders could be starting midfielders on any team including this one, they are putting team first.So take it easy on the defenders.

Maybe they should go back to midfield because the defense on this team stinks. Next to not being able to win a draw the defense is the weakest link. [/quote]

This must be a great sideline! Trouble in paradise? [/quote]
No paradise here, nothing wrong with the players on the team, everything wrong with the chemistry and how a few girls treat the others (the perceived "stars" treat the bottom half of the roster like dirt). Funny someone mentioned draws, because the problems with the draws comes from the most verbally abusive girl on the team. [/quote]

Same thing happened on 20s... girl must have learned it from her father. Now kid not invited out when at tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

The top 3 defenders could be starting midfielders on any team including this one, they are putting team first.So take it easy on the defenders.

Maybe they should go back to midfield because the defense on this team stinks. Next to not being able to win a draw the defense is the weakest link. [/quote]

This must be a great sideline! Trouble in paradise? [/quote]

No paradise here, nothing wrong with the players on the team, everything wrong with the chemistry and how a few girls treat the others (the perceived "stars" treat the bottom half of the roster like dirt). Funny someone mentioned draws, because the problems with the draws comes from the most verbally abusive girl on the team. [/quote]

Wow, tell us how you really feel! You know, I hear that over at TE they hug, hold hands and sing songs around campfires while roasting marshmallows.

Please , if the actual coach showed up the team would be fine , instead you have daddy coach and the team plays poorly and the team chemistry is about as good as the Olympic dive pool . CR will step in and the team will be fine , does not matter how much the little dude kisses CR butt ( the good thing is if he weren't so tiny kissing so much butt would kill his knees ) she knows he is a clown and has ruined many teams . The bad news is she will let him stay involved and keep his kid and a few of her buddies around just so he keeps acting like human bidet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to the bigger comment there might be a scale and a weigh in !!

That's funny! At least the smaller connected kids that don't make weight will be safe and will just get moved to defense.

The reality is, they have plenty of kids that can score. If they do replace anyone those kids will be, at best, on the circle but probably just playing defense. Especially if they are bigger and stronger.

The top 3 defenders could be starting midfielders on any team including this one, they are putting team first.So take it easy on the defenders.

Maybe they should go back to midfield because the defense on this team stinks. Next to not being able to win a draw the defense is the weakest link.

This must be a great sideline! Trouble in paradise?

Sidelines are great but ever since a certain player was not retained on the team the attacks started. It's very easy to start trouble even if you aren't on the team any longer.

How are tryouts going for everyone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are tryouts going for everyone?

Just great. How are they going for you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are tryouts going for everyone?

My daughter did great.

Nobody else's daughter did well.

The coach chose her favorites.

Lots of new faces at M&D tryouts last night. Should be interesting to see what happens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are tryouts going for everyone?

My daughter did great.

Nobody else's daughter did well.

The coach chose her favorites.

Bet they were just bigger and stronger, LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are tryouts going for everyone?

My daughter did great.

Nobody else's daughter did well.

The coach chose her favorites.

Bet they were just bigger and stronger, LOL

You forgot older too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are tryouts going for everyone?

My daughter did great.

Nobody else's daughter did well.

The coach chose her favorites.

Bet they were just bigger and stronger, LOL

You forgot older too!

Only taking big strong girls this year. No one else need apply.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of new faces at M&D tryouts last night. Should be interesting to see what happens.

Yeah. Be interesting how much turnover there is on the Red team. No one on Black is going anywhere based on what was there last night.

No golden shoes?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of new faces at M&D tryouts last night. Should be interesting to see what happens.

Yeah. Be interesting how much turnover there is on the Red team. No one on Black is going anywhere based on what was there last night.

Is it true that some of the girls trying out drove themselves to tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No golden shoes?

No. She's staying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of new faces at M&D tryouts last night. Should be interesting to see what happens.

Yeah. Be interesting how much turnover there is on the Red team. No one on Black is going anywhere based on what was there last night.

Is it true that some of the girls trying out drove themselves to tryouts?

Sorry FLID. Come up with another excuse you can't beat them. No holdback girls on M&D 2021

I know and you Maryland people are so classy when of comes to lacrosse. Please everyone is a lunatic when it comes to youth lacrosse. Early recruiting has ruined this sport. And in turn ruined many parents

Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

[quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

TG A team should be lower

Can't be lower than te ...tg beat them last 4 times they played ...and left out icon beech bums and wave

Here we go with an [lacrosse] right away. Relax i know you beat elevate. You lost to liberty who elevate beat by a decent margin. Are you the guy who sits on the defense side with the mouth? Blonde hair father from TG? Because you sir are a jackass!

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know and you Maryland people are so classy when of comes to lacrosse. Please everyone is a lunatic when it comes to youth lacrosse. Early recruiting has ruined this sport. And in turn ruined many parents

I don't see MD parents making excuses here why we lose to LI teams. Oh that's right...At 2021 we don't. Try again next summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

M&D
Skywalkers
Heros
Stars
jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
[****]
Team [****] A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Yup. Its a done deal already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Yup. Its a done deal already.

Express can be quiet now as there best players are moving for sure, 2 of them. They can be moved to the bottom of the list. At least we won't have to listen to them anymore! And YJB is not good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Yup. Its a done deal already.

Express can be quiet now as there best players are moving for sure, 2 of them. They can be moved to the bottom of the list. At least we won't have to listen to them anymore! And YJB is not good.

TG A team will be losing a lot of girls also. They weren't that good to begin with. Maybe they can fill the holes with more WB girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Yup. Its a done deal already.

Express can be quiet now as there best players are moving for sure, 2 of them. They can be moved to the bottom of the list. At least we won't have to listen to them anymore! And YJB is not good.

TG A team will be losing a lot of girls also. They weren't that good to begin with. Maybe they can fill the holes with more WB girls.

TG is going to be a total non-issue as all their goalies (in my opinion this position has been the strength of their program) are leaving or already have left the program at this age. YJ is picking up at least 2 top players from this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Yup. Its a done deal already.

Express can be quiet now as there best players are moving for sure, 2 of them. They can be moved to the bottom of the list. At least we won't have to listen to them anymore! And YJB is not good.

For the record, I have never seen one post from any Express chest thumpers and I don't play for them or have any affiliation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Yup. Its a done deal already.

Express can be quiet now as there best players are moving for sure, 2 of them. They can be moved to the bottom of the list. At least we won't have to listen to them anymore! And YJB is not good.

TG A team will be losing a lot of girls also. They weren't that good to begin with. Maybe they can fill the holes with more WB girls.

TG is going to be a total non-issue as all their goalies (in my opinion this position has been the strength of their program) are leaving or already have left the program at this age. YJ is picking up at least 2 top players from this team.

Goalie mom?

Better ranking:

YJ A
TG A
Liberty A
TE A
Leg A See
Brookhaven Bandits
Express A
YJ B
TG B
Igloo
ICON
Title 9

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Better ranking:

YJ A
TG A
Liberty A
TE A
Leg A See
Brookhaven Bandits
Express A
YJ B
TG B
Igloo
ICON
Title 9

Numbers 2-6 a probably really close, almost too close o call.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Yup. Its a done deal already.

Express can be quiet now as there best players are moving for sure, 2 of them. They can be moved to the bottom of the list. At least we won't have to listen to them anymore! And YJB is not good.

TG A team will be losing a lot of girls also. They weren't that good to begin with. Maybe they can fill the holes with more WB girls.

TG is going to be a total non-issue as all their goalies (in my opinion this position has been the strength of their program) are leaving or already have left the program at this age. YJ is picking up at least 2 top players from this team.

Good-bye. Don't let the door hit you in the arse. Plenty of other players to take their place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Better ranking:

YJ A
TG A
Liberty A
TE A
Leg A See
Brookhaven Bandits
Express A
YJ B
TG B
Igloo
ICON
Title 9

Hasn't Liberty beaten TG A every time they have played?

How did M&D and Heros tryouts go? Any new girls making the teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Whats the order of the long island clubs 2021?

jackets A
jackets B
Liberty A
TG A
TE A
Express A
Legacy
Team 91 A
Tg B
Igloo
Jackets C
TG C
liberty B
TE B
sound about right?

When did YJ B play and beat any other LI A teams? If I'm not mistaken, the National team was half 2022 A kids so not sure I would use that in your ranking.

Express Beat YJ B at Lax blast, so that blows this ranking out of the water. The true YJ B team at this age is not a good team by any stretch, probably no higher than 7. They are not beating Express, TG A, Legacy, TE and Liberty.

Cant comment on Express but did play TG TE and Liberty and are all very close and seem evenly matched. None of them dominated the other and all games were close. I don't think any of them have a lot of depth and rely on a few players. As said above YJ B is not very good and doubtful they would beat any of these teams. The big question is do any of the studs on these other teams leave for YJA?

Express can be quiet now as there best players are moving for sure, 2 of them. They can be moved to the bottom of the list. At least we won't have to listen to them anymore! And YJB is not good.

TG A team will be losing a lot of girls also. They weren't that good to begin with. Maybe they can fill the holes with more WB girls.

TG is going to be a total non-issue as all their goalies (in my opinion this position has been the strength of their program) are leaving or already have left the program at this age. YJ is picking up at least 2 top players from this team.

Good-bye. Don't let the door hit you in the arse. Plenty of other players to take their place.

The only reason why your team can compete is your goalie. You would of lost to your own B team at Hofstra if it wasn't for your goalie. the only difference between your A and B team is the goalie.

Yes Liberty is very well coached and beat tg last 5 times they have played ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Better ranking:

YJ A
TG A
Liberty A
TE A
Leg A See
Brookhaven Bandits
Express A
YJ B
TG B
Igloo
ICON
Title 9

Hasn't Liberty beaten TG A every time they have played?

TE beat Liberty 7-3 and is clearly the better team

and tg beat te 7-3 and the last 4 times they played ...so the battle of the best b team lives on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and tg beat te 7-3 and the last 4 times they played ...so the battle of the best b team lives on

Gap is closing, next stop YJA!

Yes the one game was 7 3. Championship was by a goal. Relax. You must be the father on the defensive side with the mouth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes the one game was 7 3. Championship was by a goal. Relax. You must be the father on the defensive side with the mouth.

Who was standing next to the guy yelling at his daughter to go to goal every time she got the ball?

No one on elevate ever said to their daughter go to the goal every time she got it. Blantant lie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes the one game was 7 3. Championship was by a goal. Relax. You must be the father on the defensive side with the mouth.

Who was standing next to the guy yelling at his daughter to go to goal every time she got the ball?

You just described 75% of the lax dads. Can you be more specific?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and tg beat te 7-3 and the last 4 times they played ...so the battle of the best b team lives on

Gap is closing, next stop YJA!

Gap is large and growing between YJ and the rest, just like every age group gone by. The Gap gets bigger and bigger every year. Even that struggling 2023 age group will surpass and pull away from the crowd. Just the way it is.

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Huh? Are you saying Liberty is the top dog out of this bunch and TE is just a C team?

TE beat Liberty pretty easily and it is what it is...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

sorry.....YJ keeps avoiding playing the LI teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

I guess the discussion was, if you are not going to YJ and live on LI what would be the next 2 best options in this age group. As a TG parent I would agree that TG and Liberty from a team, coaching and development perspective are the best 2 options.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

sorry.....YJ keeps avoiding playing the LI teams

That's funny. Why would we waste our time? We go play in tournaments against MD teams that can actually give us good games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

sorry.....YJ keeps avoiding playing the LI teams

That's funny. Why would we waste our time? We go play in tournaments against MD teams that can actually give us good games.

Mighty Skak has spoken! Sad thing is this team is more on par with the three other mentioned clubs and no longer offers any competition or a threat to MD teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

sorry.....YJ keeps avoiding playing the LI teams

That's funny. Why would we waste our time? We go play in tournaments against MD teams that can actually give us good games.

Is this the Skank team that drives to MD to lose. Ha. Nice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

sorry.....YJ keeps avoiding playing the LI teams

That's funny. Why would we waste our time? We go play in tournaments against MD teams that can actually give us good games.

Is this the Skank team that drives to MD to lose. Ha. Nice

Skak lost to M&D twice, Skywalkers once and Stars in a short playoff game. That's it. Who did you beat this season?

How do you think you would do against those teams? Maybe if you weren't too scared to travel off the island you could find out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

I guess the discussion was, if you are not going to YJ and live on LI what would be the next 2 best options in this age group. As a TG parent I would agree that TG and Liberty from a team, coaching and development perspective are the best 2 options.

There is very little development at TG, scratch that off your list. College coaches missing most of the spring. Poorly coached games. There are other options out there.

How quickly did the clubs reach out to players that made the cut during last weekends tryouts? Heros made cuts next day. TLC has always had a policy of announcing on Friday afternoon so the players don't find out while in school. Due to the truncated tryout schedule there seems to be a rush to lock in girls after tryouts? Any word from your team? How did the tryout go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

sorry.....YJ keeps avoiding playing the LI teams

That's funny. Why would we waste our time? We go play in tournaments against MD teams that can actually give us good games.

Is this the Skank team that drives to MD to lose. Ha. Nice

At least they come down and play us ,and always provide a competitive game . More than I can say about any other LI team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

I guess the discussion was, if you are not going to YJ and live on LI what would be the next 2 best options in this age group. As a TG parent I would agree that TG and Liberty from a team, coaching and development perspective are the best 2 options.

There is very little development at TG, scratch that off your list. College coaches missing most of the spring. Poorly coached games. There are other options out there.

Correct about TG. Most aggressive girls thrive in their system because every play is run for them. You can hear BS screaming from fields away "get it to....". Team play is not encouraged at TG

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

sorry.....YJ keeps avoiding playing the LI teams

That's funny. Why would we waste our time? We go play in tournaments against MD teams that can actually give us good games.

Is this the Skank team that drives to MD to lose. Ha. Nice

Skak has beaten all and every MD team at some point including M&D. Most of the MD teams have never beaten them. Much respect for all off the MD teams, great to play them so frequently. Sad part here is I know this likely isn't a parent from one of the MD teams anyway, but a jealous LI rival who seriously has no idea what's going on.

Who did Skak beat this year worth mentioning? Is it true M&D flipped their offense and defense and pulled their goalie in the second half the last time they played?

From a Skywalker parent the Skak team was the best team on Long Island we've played this past year. Always great competition. Looking forward to seeing how our 6 new additions fit in and help us raise the bar the 2016/2017 season. The second day of tryouts was shortened due to storms in the area, but enough time for us to forecast some nice new additions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From a Skywalker parent the Skak team was the best team on Long Island we've played this past year. Always great competition. Looking forward to seeing how our 6 new additions fit in and help us raise the bar the 2016/2017 season. The second day of tryouts was shortened due to storms in the area, but enough time for us to forecast some nice new additions.

Who else did you play from LI?

They beat elevate at national draw championship game 6 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They beat elevate at national draw championship game 6 3

In a 20 minute game playoff game.

Skywalkers also beat Leg a (see) 8-4 in a full game.

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Aren't they all 20 min playoff games in most these tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They beat elevate at national draw championship game 6 3

In a 20 minute game playoff game.

Skywalkers also beat Leg a (see) 8-4 in a full game.

Are you that insecure that you need to qualify the loss by saying it was only a 20m game? Bet you never tell anyone when you win a playoff that it was only a 20m game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They beat elevate at national draw championship game 6 3

In a 20 minute game playoff game.

Skywalkers also beat Leg a (see) 8-4 in a full game.

Are you that insecure that you need to qualify the loss by saying it was only a 20m game? Bet you never tell anyone when you win a playoff that it was only a 20m game?

I guess point is, 6-3 in a 20 minute game is about the equivalent of a 14-7 full game. All in the perspective. Anyone can win a 20 min game. Stars lost to M&D by 1 in a 20 minute championship this summer and then lost to the 15-1 six days later in a full game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They beat elevate at national draw championship game 6 3

In a 20 minute game playoff game.

Skywalkers also beat Leg a (see) 8-4 in a full game.

Are you that insecure that you need to qualify the loss by saying it was only a 20m game? Bet you never tell anyone when you win a playoff that it was only a 20m game?

I think they were saying they won the game, just the margin would have been much larger in a full game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

Agreed, but it's very short-sighted to play on C2 or Diamonds or another club like that as opposed to one of the top 3's B teams. M&D, Skywalkers and Heros have top coaches and know how to get their girls recruited. Their B teams play in the same tournaments as the A teams for the most part, where the lower tier A teams play in lesser tournaments with minimal college coaches watching. Parents need to check their egos and do what's best for the development of their daughters. Nothing wrong with being on M&D Red, Skywalkers White or Heros White. Those teams could probably beat a lot of the A teams out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Again, it's thinking like that that dooms your daughters. Heros, M&D and Skywalkers B teams were all at Lax for the Cure, Nike G8, etc last year. Countless coaches there. C2, Diamonds, Integrity, etc no where to be found. If you think you are better off in the A division of some random tournament they you are in a "lower bracket" at the biggest recruiting tournaments of the summer I feel sorry for you. This is obviously your first time through this process. Obviously the B girls aren't going to MD or UNC. But guess what, neither are the girls playing A on the lesser clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Again, it's thinking like that that dooms your daughters. Heros, M&D and Skywalkers B teams were all at Lax for the Cure, Nike G8, etc last year. Countless coaches there. C2, Diamonds, Integrity, etc no where to be found. If you think you are better off in the A division of some random tournament they you are in a "lower bracket" at the biggest recruiting tournaments of the summer I feel sorry for you. This is obviously your first time through this process. Obviously the B girls aren't going to MD or UNC. But guess what, neither are the girls playing A on the lesser clubs.

Guessing you feel passionate about your B team, good for you. Don't tell me that my daughter is doomed because I don't want to be on your crappy B team and fault others for looking elsewhere as well.. And yes, I saw M&D and SW B teams this summer and there is no comparison to their A teams, it was night and day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Great parenting. The message to your kid? If things don't go your way, give up and try another route. Heaven forbid the message is......accept what you've been given and work to improve.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Great parenting. The message to your kid? If things don't go your way, give up and try another route. Heaven forbid the message is......accept what you've been given and work to improve.

You ever see that TV commercial series with the "settlers" family. Why settle for cable? Why settle for M&D red?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Great parenting. The message to your kid? If things don't go your way, give up and try another route. Heaven forbid the message is......accept what you've been given and work to improve.

That is ridiculous. If they were quitting the sport you might have a point, but selecting which team you want to participate with and that you think is best for your child is exactly the right thing to do. Heck, the clubs get to choose which players they want and they get to change them each year if the like. Shouldn't the parent/player/consumer have the same exact option?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Great parenting. The message to your kid? If things don't go your way, give up and try another route. Heaven forbid the message is......accept what you've been given and work to improve.

Thanks Dr Spock but in this case you have it wrong. Kid is already on a A team but tried out for one of the premier clubs and made the B team. Rather than play for the new clubs B team wants to stay where she. So by your logic every kid should accept a spot no matter what and us parents should just tell them to accept it and work harder? What about the kid that gets demoted to a B team after playing on the A team for several years? The good parents should just tell them it's ok and just work harder and accept the hand you were dealt? Sorry but if I had just accepted every bad hand I was dealt I wouldn't have time to waste replying to stupid people on this forum right now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Again, it's thinking like that that dooms your daughters. Heros, M&D and Skywalkers B teams were all at Lax for the Cure, Nike G8, etc last year. Countless coaches there. C2, Diamonds, Integrity, etc no where to be found. If you think you are better off in the A division of some random tournament they you are in a "lower bracket" at the biggest recruiting tournaments of the summer I feel sorry for you. This is obviously your first time through this process. Obviously the B girls aren't going to MD or UNC. But guess what, neither are the girls playing A on the lesser clubs.

Guessing you feel passionate about your B team, good for you. Don't tell me that my daughter is doomed because I don't want to be on your crappy B team and fault others for looking elsewhere as well.. And yes, I saw M&D and SW B teams this summer and there is no comparison to their A teams, it was night and day.

My daughter isn't on a B team. And you are right. There is a big drop between the A and B teams at M&D, Hero's and Skywalkers. But there isn't much difference between their B teams and other clubs A teams which was the discussion. Obviously if your girl can play on one of those 3 A teams this discussion isn't in reference to you. But if you are choosing to play for Diamonds, Redshirts, C2, etc because you don't want you girl to have to play B on M&D, Hero's or Skywalkers you are not putting your daughter in the best position to be well coached and to develop as a player. All you have to do is compare who is coaching the teams and look at what tournaments the teams are playing in. The 3 "B" teams will win that comparison in every case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Again, it's thinking like that that dooms your daughters. Heros, M&D and Skywalkers B teams were all at Lax for the Cure, Nike G8, etc last year. Countless coaches there. C2, Diamonds, Integrity, etc no where to be found. If you think you are better off in the A division of some random tournament they you are in a "lower bracket" at the biggest recruiting tournaments of the summer I feel sorry for you. This is obviously your first time through this process. Obviously the B girls aren't going to MD or UNC. But guess what, neither are the girls playing A on the lesser clubs.

Trust me when I tell you at this age NO coaches at any of those tournaments mentioned watched one "B" bracket game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Again, it's thinking like that that dooms your daughters. Heros, M&D and Skywalkers B teams were all at Lax for the Cure, Nike G8, etc last year. Countless coaches there. C2, Diamonds, Integrity, etc no where to be found. If you think you are better off in the A division of some random tournament they you are in a "lower bracket" at the biggest recruiting tournaments of the summer I feel sorry for you. This is obviously your first time through this process. Obviously the B girls aren't going to MD or UNC. But guess what, neither are the girls playing A on the lesser clubs.

Trust me when I tell you at this age NO coaches at any of those tournaments mentioned watched one "B" bracket game

Trust me when I tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about. Almost half of M&D 2017 Red committed to play in college. You think they did this with no coaches watching them at tournaments? You keep buying what Monica, George, and Courtney are selling you and they'll keep cashing your checks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Again, it's thinking like that that dooms your daughters. Heros, M&D and Skywalkers B teams were all at Lax for the Cure, Nike G8, etc last year. Countless coaches there. C2, Diamonds, Integrity, etc no where to be found. If you think you are better off in the A division of some random tournament they you are in a "lower bracket" at the biggest recruiting tournaments of the summer I feel sorry for you. This is obviously your first time through this process. Obviously the B girls aren't going to MD or UNC. But guess what, neither are the girls playing A on the lesser clubs.

Trust me when I tell you at this age NO coaches at any of those tournaments mentioned watched one "B" bracket game

Trust me when I tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about. Almost half of M&D 2017 Red committed to play in college. You think they did this with no coaches watching them at tournaments? You keep buying what Monica, George, and Courtney are selling you and they'll keep cashing your checks.

I thought we are on a 2021 thread? so again ill say that NO coaches were watching 2021 "B" bracket games this past summer at G8, lftc, etc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Again, it's thinking like that that dooms your daughters. Heros, M&D and Skywalkers B teams were all at Lax for the Cure, Nike G8, etc last year. Countless coaches there. C2, Diamonds, Integrity, etc no where to be found. If you think you are better off in the A division of some random tournament they you are in a "lower bracket" at the biggest recruiting tournaments of the summer I feel sorry for you. This is obviously your first time through this process. Obviously the B girls aren't going to MD or UNC. But guess what, neither are the girls playing A on the lesser clubs.

Trust me when I tell you at this age NO coaches at any of those tournaments mentioned watched one "B" bracket game

Trust me when I tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about. Almost half of M&D 2017 Red committed to play in college. You think they did this with no coaches watching them at tournaments? You keep buying what Monica, George, and Courtney are selling you and they'll keep cashing your checks.

I thought we are on a 2021 thread? so again ill say that NO coaches were watching 2021 "B" bracket games this past summer at G8, lftc, etc

Well no crap. No one was watching any 2021 games this past summer. That wasn't the discussion. As the 2021 girls will be in this situation this coming year however, it makes sense to talk about it. Sorry if you were offended.

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

The only 2021 girls that will be getting looked at will be the top 10 players in the age group everyone else will wait till after 9 th grade

The reality is that the newer clubs (Diamonds, C2, and Integrity) fill a niche between the A teams of the perennial powers and their B teams. These newer clubs will always lose to the M&D Black, Hero's Green, etc by 5-10 goals, but will always beat their B teams by 5-10 goals. I think that as the teams move into the recruiting years, these girls will wind up at the same schools that the M&D Red girls go to. A quick review of the Diamonds and Integrity website shows that to be the case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

This age group is now getting to the recruiting age like the previous 3 age groups and they realize they aren't getting what they need from this club. Take a look at the college commitments for YJ in the 2018 and 2019 age group. Plenty of them were once TG players. Players and parents are tired of hearing the same old lines from the directors and not seeing the results they were told. Parents also speak to other parents and many are unsatisfied.

why would anyone jump onto a sinking ship after top talent leaves ? They will have to move players up to fill holes from their purple and white teams ..it's not like they play any top teams ..this is what they do every year when this happens plenty of loyal b players waiting for the call ..bs making the same money year after year just like te ..there is a market for their product and they fill a need ..what's wrong with that ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

Lots of goalie drama! Girls lacrosse is so lacking in quality goalie coaching, it's no wonder. They change places faster than college assistant coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

YJ will carry 2 goalies so it looks like 3 great goalies playing for 2 spots

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

I would say between her and the top goalie on skak, they are probably among the top 5 in the country. Both are outstanding and now coaches can watch one team to recruit these two top girls. Unfortunate for TG as she was the main reaon they could compete with half way decent teams. Word is only getting out now as one of their other top players also left for YJ. The rest of the team will scrammble for the doors if they want to have any chance of being on a quality program. SS and BS should take a hard look at the way they run their program. Poor coaching, only 2.5 months of lax from them, where other programs give you so much more development.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

I would say between her and the top goalie on skak, they are probably among the top 5 in the country. Both are outstanding and now coaches can watch one team to recruit these two top girls. Unfortunate for TG as she was the main reaon they could compete with half way decent teams. Word is only getting out now as one of their other top players also left for YJ. The rest of the team will scrammble for the doors if they want to have any chance of being on a quality program. SS and BS should take a hard look at the way they run their program. Poor coaching, only 2.5 months of lax from them, where other programs give you so much more development.

Who cares about the goalies. Sorry.....totally over rated position especially in girls lax. Lets see......they don't face off, don't run around field, don't play offense, don't shoot or score goals don't play defense and are usually the worst athlete on the team and play half a game. Plenty of others out there to play the position. See Ya

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

I would say between her and the top goalie on skak, they are probably among the top 5 in the country. Both are outstanding and now coaches can watch one team to recruit these two top girls. Unfortunate for TG as she was the main reaon they could compete with half way decent teams. Word is only getting out now as one of their other top players also left for YJ. The rest of the team will scrammble for the doors if they want to have any chance of being on a quality program. SS and BS should take a hard look at the way they run their program. Poor coaching, only 2.5 months of lax from them, where other programs give you so much more development.

BS & SS don't care they make the same amount of money either way, its a business and the sooner that you all realize the only thing they care about is your check clearing the better off you will be. BTW your top 5 in the country gave me a good laugh

For those who think CR is the director of the Lemmings out of the "goodness" in her heart, you are sadly mistaken. She is the biggest, greediest, money-grubbing director in the country. She cares nothing about the girls, but cares only for the balance in her checking account. No different than any other director. So, get off of your Lemming high horse and look at yourselves in the mirror.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

Unfortunately being with the team since the begining means absolutely nothing. I suspect there will be a few others in the same boat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only 2021 girls that will be getting looked at will be the top 10 players in the age group everyone else will wait till after 9 th grade

if the 2019s r any indication that is completely wrong. There were way more than 10 2019s committed before end of 9th grade. Heck, some college teams had close to 10 all by themselves. Which means they were being looked at well before then as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

I would say between her and the top goalie on skak, they are probably among the top 5 in the country. Both are outstanding and now coaches can watch one team to recruit these two top girls. Unfortunate for TG as she was the main reaon they could compete with half way decent teams. Word is only getting out now as one of their other top players also left for YJ. The rest of the team will scrammble for the doors if they want to have any chance of being on a quality program. SS and BS should take a hard look at the way they run their program. Poor coaching, only 2.5 months of lax from them, where other programs give you so much more development.

Who cares about the goalies. Sorry.....totally over rated position especially in girls lax. Lets see......they don't face off, don't run around field, don't play offense, don't shoot or score goals don't play defense and are usually the worst athlete on the team and play half a game. Plenty of others out there to play the position. See Ya

What you just described is a goalie on a bad team. You have no clue what you are talking about as goalie is probably the most important position on the field. There's a reason that goalies are the first position to commit every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only 2021 girls that will be getting looked at will be the top 10 players in the age group everyone else will wait till after 9 th grade

if the 2019s r any indication that is completely wrong. There were way more than 10 2019s committed before end of 9th grade. Heck, some college teams had close to 10 all by themselves. Which means they were being looked at well before then as well.

Correct. This coming summer there will be coaches lined up on the sidelines watching the 2021s play.

Tell us more, you seem to know so much about the 2021 team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like there is going to be musical chairs with the goalies in this age group with the TG goalie bumping the yj blue goalie down to gold. Maybe the bumped goalie will go to TG .

Why do all the quality players leave TG around 8th-9th grade. Year after year top girls leave around Not only did they lose a quality goalie, they also lost a few quality field players. This team cannot compete without that goalie. She kept them in so many of their games when they didn't deserve to win.

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

Unfortunately being with the team since the begining means absolutely nothing. I suspect there will be a few others in the same boat.

how many tg girls didnt show up for tryouts?

Sounds like you know?

ummm...tryouts are this weekend, so nobody showed up yet!

How many tg girls didnt show up for tryouts? [/quote]

The same thing happened to 2020, top talent just walked away and team fell off competitively. The difference here is the 2021 never was competitive in the first place, so what difference does it make really?

The shame of it is essentially like the 2020 team any kid that can make YJ top team leaves and the kids that would be on 2-3 yj team stay and are not really competitive with the top clubs. Not sure how CR does it but somehow manages to keep the top kids in her club while attracting the best players from the other clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The shame of it is essentially like the 2020 team any kid that can make YJ top team leaves and the kids that would be on 2-3 yj team stay and are not really competitive with the top clubs. Not sure how CR does it but somehow manages to keep the top kids in her club while attracting the best players from the other clubs.

We have the same issue here in MD. Although not as good or successful as YJ, Md United seems to be able to convince gullible parents that their kid would be better off at their program. Other clubs, with clearly better coaching, suffer because of the bill-of-goods that Bev Altig is able to sell. What I've learned to do over the many years I've been involved with lax is to look at where the clubs alumni go to school. With the obvious exceptions (Caroline Steele to UMd, Madison Carter to PSU) the schools that the alumni from Md United attend are exactly the same as any other club. Why the parents can't see that is beyond me. I've even seen situations where the parents will pull the kid from the programs she was happy at and move her to Md United, where (not shockingly) she would wind up going to the same school as she would've if she had just stayed where she was in the first place. Plus, I personally know several girls who played at Md United who said it was an absolute s#&t show and they hated it, but MOMMY and DADDY thought she was better off there. Absolutely, freakin' ridiculous. My guess is that YJ does the same thing...big promises to all (mostly donkey MOMMY and DADDY) but in reality only the top few get to go to somewhere they would've have if they stayed at their original team. Everybody else goes to the same kind of school no matter what club they play for. I hate gullible parents who can't see the bigger picture.

2021 tg goalie and few others a no show today. There was a decent one that showed and looks promising.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2021 tg goalie and few others a no show today. There was a decent one that showed and looks promising.

That's what happens when you are offered a guaranteed starting spot on YJ A!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What age group did the TG goalie leave?

2021

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

I would say between her and the top goalie on skak, they are probably among the top 5 in the country. Both are outstanding and now coaches can watch one team to recruit these two top girls. Unfortunate for TG as she was the main reaon they could compete with half way decent teams. Word is only getting out now as one of their other top players also left for YJ. The rest of the team will scrammble for the doors if they want to have any chance of being on a quality program. SS and BS should take a hard look at the way they run their program. Poor coaching, only 2.5 months of lax from them, where other programs give you so much more development.

Who cares about the goalies. Sorry.....totally over rated position especially in girls lax. Lets see......they don't face off, don't run around field, don't play offense, don't shoot or score goals don't play defense and are usually the worst athlete on the team and play half a game. Plenty of others out there to play the position. See Ya

What you just described is a goalie on a bad team. You have no clue what you are talking about as goalie is probably the most important position on the field. There's a reason that goalies are the first position to commit every year.

Seriously goalie dad.......womens goalies are totally over rated. Give me a good faceoff girl over a goalie any day. And commitments.....please. They are typically the slowest least fit girl on team and play half a game. Sorry...

Maybe you should sit in silence. You look quite simple minded.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

I would say between her and the top goalie on skak, they are probably among the top 5 in the country. Both are outstanding and now coaches can watch one team to recruit these two top girls. Unfortunate for TG as she was the main reaon they could compete with half way decent teams. Word is only getting out now as one of their other top players also left for YJ. The rest of the team will scrammble for the doors if they want to have any chance of being on a quality program. SS and BS should take a hard look at the way they run their program. Poor coaching, only 2.5 months of lax from them, where other programs give you so much more development.

Who cares about the goalies. Sorry.....totally over rated position especially in girls lax. Lets see......they don't face off, don't run around field, don't play offense, don't shoot or score goals don't play defense and are usually the worst athlete on the team and play half a game. Plenty of others out there to play the position. See Ya

What you just described is a goalie on a bad team. You have no clue what you are talking about as goalie is probably the most important position on the field. There's a reason that goalies are the first position to commit every year.

Seriously goalie dad.......womens goalies are totally over rated. Give me a good faceoff girl over a goalie any day. And commitments.....please. They are typically the slowest least fit girl on team and play half a game. Sorry...

Not a goalie dad. But if your goalie is the least athletic player on your team, I guarantee you that you don't have a good team. Good goalies are a key part of clearing the ball, communicating with their defense, etc... I'm going to assume your daughter is 8 or your daughter' team is terrible if you feel that way about goalies. Look at the difference in M&D 2021 this year with a top notch goalie.

I agree. MD United a "B" organization at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a goalie dad. But if your goalie is the least athletic player on your team, I guarantee you that you don't have a good team. Good goalies are a key part of clearing the ball, communicating with their defense, etc... I'm going to assume your daughter is 8 or your daughter' team is terrible if you feel that way about goalies. Look at the difference in M&D 2021 this year with a top notch goalie.

Hey, it's only going to get better. All the non top notch goalies are gone from that team. You must be relieved!!! PHEW!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a goalie dad. But if your goalie is the least athletic player on your team, I guarantee you that you don't have a good team. Good goalies are a key part of clearing the ball, communicating with their defense, etc... I'm going to assume your daughter is 8 or your daughter' team is terrible if you feel that way about goalies. Look at the difference in M&D 2021 this year with a top notch goalie.

Hey, it's only going to get better. All the non top notch goalies are gone from that team. You must be relieved!!! PHEW!!!!

LOL! Nothing is more loathed by Intense Lax Dad than the dreaded 2nd Goalie. Don't the parents of 2nd Goalies realize they are jeopardizing the careers of field players everywhere? Just stay home, we'll give you a call if we need you!

Harambe was a backup keeper. Look what the lax dads did to him.

It seems like a few girls did not come back to top guns that were on the black team.
It's going to give some of the purple kids an opportunity to move up but the team will not be as strong due to the fact the girls that left were very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tg girls didnt show up for tryouts?

The same thing happened to 2020, top talent just walked away and team fell off competitively. The difference here is the 2021 never was competitive in the first place, so what difference does it make really?[/quote]

The 2020 team lost one kid last year. She is the top player on LI. Is the team as good without her? No. Did they play as a team and hav a great season? Yes. Be very careful of what you ask for by going over to YJ. Only the stud of the 2021 girls going over there will break the starters. The other kids will have their deal honored and they will displace 5-6 blue players the rest of the team will not welcome them with open arms. The grass isn't always greener.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, she must be some goalie if she thinks she can replace the goalie on Skak. That young lady can play and she's been with the team from the beginning (not that that will matter much), although she is a bit on the smaller side. Did she not even tryout for TG and is solely going YJ in October?

I would say between her and the top goalie on skak, they are probably among the top 5 in the country. Both are outstanding and now coaches can watch one team to recruit these two top girls. Unfortunate for TG as she was the main reaon they could compete with half way decent teams. Word is only getting out now as one of their other top players also left for YJ. The rest of the team will scrammble for the doors if they want to have any chance of being on a quality program. SS and BS should take a hard look at the way they run their program. Poor coaching, only 2.5 months of lax from them, where other programs give you so much more development.

Who cares about the goalies. Sorry.....totally over rated position especially in girls lax. Lets see......they don't face off, don't run around field, don't play offense, don't shoot or score goals don't play defense and are usually the worst athlete on the team and play half a game. Plenty of others out there to play the position. See Ya

What you just described is a goalie on a bad team. You have no clue what you are talking about as goalie is probably the most important position on the field. There's a reason that goalies are the first position to commit every year.

Seriously goalie dad.......womens goalies are totally over rated. Give me a good faceoff girl over a goalie any day. And commitments.....please. They are typically the slowest least fit girl on team and play half a game. Sorry...

As a lacrosse coach for over 20 years, I must say that your knowledge about lacrosse goaltending is completely lacking. Having a good goalie is a game changer. Good goalies do a lot more than save shots. They force shots wide due to their angle skills and athleticism. They act as a 5th defender by breaking up feeds and backing up her own defenders when in trouble. The good ones are commanders of the defense, reading plays and calling out cutters. Of course there are plenty that do not do all of that, but the one's that do are invaluable. That's why they are recruited quickly and are first on the list of most college coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2021 tg goalie and few others a no show today. There was a decent one that showed and looks promising.

7 girls did not come back to black.

7 girls aren't going back to tg 2021? Where would they go? Not all would make yjA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 girls aren't going back to tg 2021? Where would they go? Not all would make yjA

no

It would seem they were promised something, to pull a no show yesterday. I hope they were certain it would work out for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 girls aren't going back to tg 2021? Where would they go? Not all would make yjA

That's the number of girls who weren't at tryouts yesterday. Doubt they all are going to YJ. Only three have spots on YJ a.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7 girls aren't going back to tg 2021? Where would they go? Not all would make yjA

That's the number of girls who weren't at tryouts yesterday. Doubt they all are going to YJ. Only three have spots on YJ a.

If 7 girls walked away from the top team that's just crazy and doesn't send a good message about the club. Even worse if these seven were in the top 10. I guess the good news is 7 B team girls have a better shot at moving up. How many new girls were there?

About 80

Not 3 going to jacket a ...and around 10 kids from te at tg tryouts including goalie ...everyone is trying to move up the food chain !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The shame of it is essentially like the 2020 team any kid that can make YJ top team leaves and the kids that would be on 2-3 yj team stay and are not really competitive with the top clubs. Not sure how CR does it but somehow manages to keep the top kids in her club while attracting the best players from the other clubs.

We have the same issue here in MD. Although not as good or successful as YJ, Md United seems to be able to convince gullible parents that their kid would be better off at their program. Other clubs, with clearly better coaching, suffer because of the bill-of-goods that Bev Altig is able to sell. What I've learned to do over the many years I've been involved with lax is to look at where the clubs alumni go to school. With the obvious exceptions (Caroline Steele to UMd, Madison Carter to PSU) the schools that the alumni from Md United attend are exactly the same as any other club. Why the parents can't see that is beyond me. I've even seen situations where the parents will pull the kid from the programs she was happy at and move her to Md United, where (not shockingly) she would wind up going to the same school as she would've if she had just stayed where she was in the first place. Plus, I personally know several girls who played at Md United who said it was an absolute s#&t show and they hated it, but MOMMY and DADDY thought she was better off there. Absolutely, freakin' ridiculous. My guess is that YJ does the same thing...big promises to all (mostly donkey MOMMY and DADDY) but in reality only the top few get to go to somewhere they would've have if they stayed at their original team. Everybody else goes to the same kind of school no matter what club they play for. I hate gullible parents who can't see the bigger picture.

It seems the Florist is finally noticing that the Club is falling apart. This is the same bitterness the girls saw all year. About 14 of her 21's are now at three other clubs. I am sure they are not afraid of their new coaches!!! On top of the player who left mid season last year.

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The shame of it is essentially like the 2020 team any kid that can make YJ top team leaves and the kids that would be on 2-3 yj team stay and are not really competitive with the top clubs. Not sure how CR does it but somehow manages to keep the top kids in her club while attracting the best players from the other clubs.

We have the same issue here in MD. Although not as good or successful as YJ, Md United seems to be able to convince gullible parents that their kid would be better off at their program. Other clubs, with clearly better coaching, suffer because of the bill-of-goods that Bev Altig is able to sell. What I've learned to do over the many years I've been involved with lax is to look at where the clubs alumni go to school. With the obvious exceptions (Caroline Steele to UMd, Madison Carter to PSU) the schools that the alumni from Md United attend are exactly the same as any other club. Why the parents can't see that is beyond me. I've even seen situations where the parents will pull the kid from the programs she was happy at and move her to Md United, where (not shockingly) she would wind up going to the same school as she would've if she had just stayed where she was in the first place. Plus, I personally know several girls who played at Md United who said it was an absolute s#&t show and they hated it, but MOMMY and DADDY thought she was better off there. Absolutely, freakin' ridiculous. My guess is that YJ does the same thing...big promises to all (mostly donkey MOMMY and DADDY) but in reality only the top few get to go to somewhere they would've have if they stayed at their original team. Everybody else goes to the same kind of school no matter what club they play for. I hate gullible parents who can't see the bigger picture.

It seems the Florist is finally noticing that the Club is falling apart. This is the same bitterness the girls saw all year. About 14 of her 21's are now at three other clubs. I am sure they are not afraid of their new coaches!!! On top of the player who left mid season last year.

First of all, no club is falling apart, gullible Md United parent. You poisoned the sidelines with negative talk all season long because you think your daughter is going to get a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved to Md United. Ain't gonna happen. So, when you find out that it's not going to happen at Md United, you'll poison their sidelines (even more than it is already), destroy the team and move your daughter to another club. Your methods are nothing new to experienced lax people. We've all seen it a hundred times. You turned your kid into a basket case, putting undue pressure on her to be like some relative of hers that played at U Md. I feel sorry for your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The shame of it is essentially like the 2020 team any kid that can make YJ top team leaves and the kids that would be on 2-3 yj team stay and are not really competitive with the top clubs. Not sure how CR does it but somehow manages to keep the top kids in her club while attracting the best players from the other clubs.

We have the same issue here in MD. Although not as good or successful as YJ, Md United seems to be able to convince gullible parents that their kid would be better off at their program. Other clubs, with clearly better coaching, suffer because of the bill-of-goods that Bev Altig is able to sell. What I've learned to do over the many years I've been involved with lax is to look at where the clubs alumni go to school. With the obvious exceptions (Caroline Steele to UMd, Madison Carter to PSU) the schools that the alumni from Md United attend are exactly the same as any other club. Why the parents can't see that is beyond me. I've even seen situations where the parents will pull the kid from the programs she was happy at and move her to Md United, where (not shockingly) she would wind up going to the same school as she would've if she had just stayed where she was in the first place. Plus, I personally know several girls who played at Md United who said it was an absolute s#&t show and they hated it, but MOMMY and DADDY thought she was better off there. Absolutely, freakin' ridiculous. My guess is that YJ does the same thing...big promises to all (mostly donkey MOMMY and DADDY) but in reality only the top few get to go to somewhere they would've have if they stayed at their original team. Everybody else goes to the same kind of school no matter what club they play for. I hate gullible parents who can't see the bigger picture.

It seems the Florist is finally noticing that the Club is falling apart. This is the same bitterness the girls saw all year. About 14 of her 21's are now at three other clubs. I am sure they are not afraid of their new coaches!!! On top of the player who left mid season last year.

Afraid of their coaches? Which ones? I'm curious. Your accusations are insane.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not 3 going to jacket a ...and around 10 kids from te at tg tryouts including goalie ...everyone is trying to move up the food chain !!

Sounds like YJ A might be in for a pretty big roster change?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The shame of it is essentially like the 2020 team any kid that can make YJ top team leaves and the kids that would be on 2-3 yj team stay and are not really competitive with the top clubs. Not sure how CR does it but somehow manages to keep the top kids in her club while attracting the best players from the other clubs.

We have the same issue here in MD. Although not as good or successful as YJ, Md United seems to be able to convince gullible parents that their kid would be better off at their program. Other clubs, with clearly better coaching, suffer because of the bill-of-goods that Bev Altig is able to sell. What I've learned to do over the many years I've been involved with lax is to look at where the clubs alumni go to school. With the obvious exceptions (Caroline Steele to UMd, Madison Carter to PSU) the schools that the alumni from Md United attend are exactly the same as any other club. Why the parents can't see that is beyond me. I've even seen situations where the parents will pull the kid from the programs she was happy at and move her to Md United, where (not shockingly) she would wind up going to the same school as she would've if she had just stayed where she was in the first place. Plus, I personally know several girls who played at Md United who said it was an absolute s#&t show and they hated it, but MOMMY and DADDY thought she was better off there. Absolutely, freakin' ridiculous. My guess is that YJ does the same thing...big promises to all (mostly donkey MOMMY and DADDY) but in reality only the top few get to go to somewhere they would've have if they stayed at their original team. Everybody else goes to the same kind of school no matter what club they play for. I hate gullible parents who can't see the bigger picture.

It seems the Florist is finally noticing that the Club is falling apart. This is the same bitterness the girls saw all year. About 14 of her 21's are now at three other clubs. I am sure they are not afraid of their new coaches!!! On top of the player who left mid season last year.

Afraid of their coaches? Which ones? I'm curious. Your accusations are insane.

Lots of interesting moves at 2021 in Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The shame of it is essentially like the 2020 team any kid that can make YJ top team leaves and the kids that would be on 2-3 yj team stay and are not really competitive with the top clubs. Not sure how CR does it but somehow manages to keep the top kids in her club while attracting the best players from the other clubs.

We have the same issue here in MD. Although not as good or successful as YJ, Md United seems to be able to convince gullible parents that their kid would be better off at their program. Other clubs, with clearly better coaching, suffer because of the bill-of-goods that Bev Altig is able to sell. What I've learned to do over the many years I've been involved with lax is to look at where the clubs alumni go to school. With the obvious exceptions (Caroline Steele to UMd, Madison Carter to PSU) the schools that the alumni from Md United attend are exactly the same as any other club. Why the parents can't see that is beyond me. I've even seen situations where the parents will pull the kid from the programs she was happy at and move her to Md United, where (not shockingly) she would wind up going to the same school as she would've if she had just stayed where she was in the first place. Plus, I personally know several girls who played at Md United who said it was an absolute s#&t show and they hated it, but MOMMY and DADDY thought she was better off there. Absolutely, freakin' ridiculous. My guess is that YJ does the same thing...big promises to all (mostly donkey MOMMY and DADDY) but in reality only the top few get to go to somewhere they would've have if they stayed at their original team. Everybody else goes to the same kind of school no matter what club they play for. I hate gullible parents who can't see the bigger picture.

It seems the Florist is finally noticing that the Club is falling apart. This is the same bitterness the girls saw all year. About 14 of her 21's are now at three other clubs. I am sure they are not afraid of their new coaches!!! On top of the player who left mid season last year.

Afraid of their coaches? Which ones? I'm curious. Your accusations are insane.

I have to ask...Which coaches was your daughter afraid of? The two coaches they had could not have been nicer. The team went about 15-5 this summer, mix of A and B brackets. Overall a pretty good summer for 8th GRADERS! It's parents like you Ms Poison, that ruin the game for nice parents and players. As was said earlier, take your poison to Md United. It's exactly where you belong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Wait! Girls left Md United? Oh my God! Don't tell that to the mom who is on here taking her poison from Integrity to Md United. She thinks her 8th grade daughter is now assured of a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved. She's naive and doesn't believe that Md United has more than its share of problems (as most clubs do). She's delusional.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Wait! Girls left Md United? Oh my God! Don't tell that to the mom who is on here taking her poison from Integrity to Md United. She thinks her 8th grade daughter is now assured of a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved. She's naive and doesn't believe that Md United has more than its share of problems (as most clubs do). She's delusional.

You have 15 players who left; I would be careful pining it on 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Wait! Girls left Md United? Oh my God! Don't tell that to the mom who is on here taking her poison from Integrity to Md United. She thinks her 8th grade daughter is now assured of a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved. She's naive and doesn't believe that Md United has more than its share of problems (as most clubs do). She's delusional.

I'm confused. Have played Integrity many times and certainly no girls there that should be planning on playing at MD. Why all this chatter between average to below average teams like MD United and Integrity. AA country drama I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Wait! Girls left Md United? Oh my God! Don't tell that to the mom who is on here taking her poison from Integrity to Md United. She thinks her 8th grade daughter is now assured of a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved. She's naive and doesn't believe that Md United has more than its share of problems (as most clubs do). She's delusional.

I'm confused. Have played Integrity many times and certainly no girls there that should be planning on playing at MD. Why all this chatter between average to below average teams like MD United and Integrity. AA country drama I guess.

First of all, I would not classify either team as "below average", and this is not necessarily just an AA County thing. They are definitely not M&D, but neither is Heros or YJ. And, let's be honest, there are not many girls on any team outside of M&D that can claim they have potential UMd players. Integrity, and Md United, puts out quality players that go to Navy, Hofstra, Loyola, Richmond, Penn State, Denver, Lehigh, etc. That's what I would call a very well-rounded and respectable list of colleges. This conversation is not about the talent level of the players, it's about the poisonous parent that is what I classify as a "Star Chaser" or club jumper. She thinks that by being a cancer on the sidelines of a respected club she can tear them down while moving her daughter to another club where the director has probably promised her she can get her a 100% scholly to the U of Md. The mom has turned her daughter into a basket-case by putting extra pressure on her to perform up to some standard that the kid isn't ready for, yet. Maybe one day, but not in 8th GRADE. This lady is one of those parents that thinks her kid is head and shoulders above everyone else, and I have to honest...she is not. At least not yet. Maybe one day, but not yet. I wish the kid well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tg girls didnt show up for tryouts?

The same thing happened to 2020, top talent just walked away and team fell off competitively. The difference here is the 2021 never was competitive in the first place, so what difference does it make really?

The 2020 team lost one kid last year. She is the top player on LI. Is the team as good without her? No. Did they play as a team and hav a great season? Yes. Be very careful of what you ask for by going over to YJ. Only the stud of the 2021 girls going over there will break the starters. The other kids will have their deal honored and they will displace 5-6 blue players the rest of the team will not welcome them with open arms. The grass isn't always greener.

The 2020 with all the players they lost are mediocre at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Wait! Girls left Md United? Oh my God! Don't tell that to the mom who is on here taking her poison from Integrity to Md United. She thinks her 8th grade daughter is now assured of a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved. She's naive and doesn't believe that Md United has more than its share of problems (as most clubs do). She's delusional.

I'm confused. Have played Integrity many times and certainly no girls there that should be planning on playing at MD. Why all this chatter between average to below average teams like MD United and Integrity. AA country drama I guess.

First of all, I would not classify either team as "below average", and this is not necessarily just an AA County thing. They are definitely not M&D, but neither is Heros or YJ. And, let's be honest, there are not many girls on any team outside of M&D that can claim they have potential UMd players. Integrity, and Md United, puts out quality players that go to Navy, Hofstra, Loyola, Richmond, Penn State, Denver, Lehigh, etc. That's what I would call a very well-rounded and respectable list of colleges. This conversation is not about the talent level of the players, it's about the poisonous parent that is what I classify as a "Star Chaser" or club jumper. She thinks that by being a cancer on the sidelines of a respected club she can tear them down while moving her daughter to another club where the director has probably promised her she can get her a 100% scholly to the U of Md. The mom has turned her daughter into a basket-case by putting extra pressure on her to perform up to some standard that the kid isn't ready for, yet. Maybe one day, but not in 8th GRADE. This lady is one of those parents that thinks her kid is head and shoulders above everyone else, and I have to honest...she is not. At least not yet. Maybe one day, but not yet. I wish the kid well.

MD United was 4-3-1 in spring league and Integrity was 2-4-2. As I said, average to below average. Both teams play in B brackets or B tournaments all summer so going 15-5 against a bunch of bad teams doesn't tell you as much as the spring records against mostly decent teams in the 2021 A division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tg girls didnt show up for tryouts?

The same thing happened to 2020, top talent just walked away and team fell off competitively. The difference here is the 2021 never was competitive in the first place, so what difference does it make really?

The 2020 team lost one kid last year. She is the top player on LI. Is the team as good without her? No. Did they play as a team and hav a great season? Yes. Be very careful of what you ask for by going over to YJ. Only the stud of the 2021 girls going over there will break the starters. The other kids will have their deal honored and they will displace 5-6 blue players the rest of the team will not welcome them with open arms. The grass isn't always greener. [/quote]

Yes but many more left the year before that .Great season is laughable in terms of being competitive. Exactly what team did they beat, essentially they are a B level team as the kids that have left over the past 2 seasons were essentially their best players. The deal thing is gross on the YJ part in my opinion but stop with the played as a team and great summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not 3 going to jacket a ...and around 10 kids from te at tg tryouts including goalie ...everyone is trying to move up the food chain !!

What does that mean not 3 going? And which te team a b or c? Which goalie a or b?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not 3 going to jacket a ...and around 10 kids from te at tg tryouts including goalie ...everyone is trying to move up the food chain !!

Sounds like YJ A might be in for a pretty big roster change?

I wouldn't bet on it. The TG black team was not very good at all. Yes 2 maybe three will make their way over, the rest would be a serious down grade. But they still may be in a better position playing YJ B than the team they were on, certainly tie for the upcoming year. I think you will see the other also pop up at leggy Sea, TE, Igloo, Liberty etc...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not 3 going to jacket a ...and around 10 kids from te at tg tryouts including goalie ...everyone is trying to move up the food chain !!

What does that mean not 3 going? And which te team a b or c? Which goalie a or b?

2 (maybe 3, but she will have to have a solid tryout because she isn't guarenteed as the other 2 are) TG girls have spots on A. The rest will try but probably end up on B. The goalie is the talented Black team goalie, and the other girl is a talented field player who can play all positions (mainly midfield). The rest of the team is leaving because they know the team will be a debacle. They are in a goaltender crisis as their best bet is a 2nd string B team goalie from YJ. Doesn't bode well for them. They hardly beat their own B team and won that by one goal and the difference was their goalie. The remaining team will be B-C level at best. Parents are sick of the non-commitment from the girls who on the team because they live in the right town, to the club administration/directors could care less how much the girls improve once the check clears, that much is obvious by their choice of coaches. College girls coaching is an antiquated model. Too many clubs provide a full lacrosse experience with adult coaches who have a plan for the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Wait! Girls left Md United? Oh my God! Don't tell that to the mom who is on here taking her poison from Integrity to Md United. She thinks her 8th grade daughter is now assured of a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved. She's naive and doesn't believe that Md United has more than its share of problems (as most clubs do). She's delusional.

You have 15 players who left; I would be careful pining it on 1.

UMD cost an in state student around $7,000, stop playing club lax right now and you will have enough money to go to UMD!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not 3 going to jacket a ...and around 10 kids from te at tg tryouts including goalie ...everyone is trying to move up the food chain !!

What does that mean not 3 going? And which te team a b or c? Which goalie a or b?

2 (maybe 3, but she will have to have a solid tryout because she isn't guarenteed as the other 2 are) TG girls have spots on A. The rest will try but probably end up on B. The goalie is the talented Black team goalie, and the other girl is a talented field player who can play all positions (mainly midfield). The rest of the team is leaving because they know the team will be a debacle. They are in a goaltender crisis as their best bet is a 2nd string B team goalie from YJ. Doesn't bode well for them. They hardly beat their own B team and won that by one goal and the difference was their goalie. The remaining team will be B-C level at best. Parents are sick of the non-commitment from the girls who on the team because they live in the right town, to the club administration/directors could care less how much the girls improve once the check clears, that much is obvious by their choice of coaches. College girls coaching is an antiquated model. Too many clubs provide a full lacrosse experience with adult coaches who have a plan for the team.

As long as the revenue stream remains steady none of this matters to the club directors at TG or anywhere else. If the only people allowed to make money at TG are named Smith it will be very difficult for them to expand the club and offer all the off season opportunities that the other clubs are making available to their customers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Wait! Girls left Md United? Oh my God! Don't tell that to the mom who is on here taking her poison from Integrity to Md United. She thinks her 8th grade daughter is now assured of a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved. She's naive and doesn't believe that Md United has more than its share of problems (as most clubs do). She's delusional.

You have 15 players who left; I would be careful pining it on 1.

Way to go Stacey!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

The lavel of competition in the M&D/TLC/Skywalkers fames should be much improved. It will be an interesting Fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

Wait! Girls left Md United? Oh my God! Don't tell that to the mom who is on here taking her poison from Integrity to Md United. She thinks her 8th grade daughter is now assured of a full-ride scholarship to the University of Maryland because she moved. She's naive and doesn't believe that Md United has more than its share of problems (as most clubs do). She's delusional.

You have 15 players who left; I would be careful pining it on 1.

Way to go Stacey!

No one is pinning (not pining) ANYTHING on a player. The complaint is about a toxic sideline created by a disgruntled mom, who talks loud and fast, and gullible parents who listen to a loud, fast talker. And, if someone was of the coaches, boy do they have a HUGE dose of reality headed their way. Just wait until they get to high school or (possibly) college. If the coach yells at her daughter, the mom will take her daughter to another team, and another team, and another team, etc. Like was said earlier, the mom is delusional. Poor kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

The lavel of competition in the M&D/TLC/Skywalkers fames should be much improved. It will be an interesting Fall.

I hope you're right, but TLC had a LONG way to go to get to that level. Pulling girls from C2 and Diamonds isn't going to be enough to make up that difference. Happy that you are pleased with your new girls though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

The lavel of competition in the M&D/TLC/Skywalkers fames should be much improved. It will be an interesting Fall.

I hope you're right, but TLC had a LONG way to go to get to that level. Pulling girls from C2 and Diamonds isn't going to be enough to make up that difference. Happy that you are pleased with your new girls though.

Why do you hope they are right? Does it actually matter if they can compete with M&D or not? This winning/losing stuff is all so fleeting. Keep your eye on the ball. Only Intense Lax Dad thinks winning (as compared to a making a winning effort) is truly important. Do not be that guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

The lavel of competition in the M&D/TLC/Skywalkers fames should be much improved. It will be an interesting Fall.

I hope you're right, but TLC had a LONG way to go to get to that level. Pulling girls from C2 and Diamonds isn't going to be enough to make up that difference. Happy that you are pleased with your new girls though.

Why do you hope they are right? Does it actually matter if they can compete with M&D or not? This winning/losing stuff is all so fleeting. Keep your eye on the ball. Only Intense Lax Dad thinks winning (as compared to a making a winning effort) is truly important. Do not be that guy.

Thanks Captain Fairplay. I hope they are right because it is not fun winning every game by 8-10 goals. The more quality competition that the girls play the better. They improve by playing with and against better players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

The lavel of competition in the M&D/TLC/Skywalkers fames should be much improved. It will be an interesting Fall.

I hope you're right, but TLC had a LONG way to go to get to that level. Pulling girls from C2 and Diamonds isn't going to be enough to make up that difference. Happy that you are pleased with your new girls though.

Why do you hope they are right? Does it actually matter if they can compete with M&D or not? This winning/losing stuff is all so fleeting. Keep your eye on the ball. Only Intense Lax Dad thinks winning (as compared to a making a winning effort) is truly important. Do not be that guy.

Thanks Captain Fairplay. I hope they are right because it is not fun winning every game by 8-10 goals. The more quality competition that the girls play the better. They improve by playing with and against better players.

Note that Intense Lax Dad's goal is to mention his team's dominance. Even if it comes in the form of "Woe is me, we are so good that it is boring." He is a link in a very long chain of such guys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

The lavel of competition in the M&D/TLC/Skywalkers fames should be much improved. It will be an interesting Fall.

I hope you're right, but TLC had a LONG way to go to get to that level. Pulling girls from C2 and Diamonds isn't going to be enough to make up that difference. Happy that you are pleased with your new girls though.

Why do you hope they are right? Does it actually matter if they can compete with M&D or not? This winning/losing stuff is all so fleeting. Keep your eye on the ball. Only Intense Lax Dad thinks winning (as compared to a making a winning effort) is truly important. Do not be that guy.

Intense Lax Dad. Perfect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

The lavel of competition in the M&D/TLC/Skywalkers fames should be much improved. It will be an interesting Fall.

Wow. Their own greatness prevents improvement. These guys are very funny.

I hope you're right, but TLC had a LONG way to go to get to that level. Pulling girls from C2 and Diamonds isn't going to be enough to make up that difference. Happy that you are pleased with your new girls though.

Why do you hope they are right? Does it actually matter if they can compete with M&D or not? This winning/losing stuff is all so fleeting. Keep your eye on the ball. Only Intense Lax Dad thinks winning (as compared to a making a winning effort) is truly important. Do not be that guy.

Thanks Captain Fairplay. I hope they are right because it is not fun winning every game by 8-10 goals. The more quality competition that the girls play the better. They improve by playing with and against better players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tg girls didnt show up for tryouts?

The same thing happened to 2020, top talent just walked away and team fell off competitively. The difference here is the 2021 never was competitive in the first place, so what difference does it make really?

The 2020 team lost one kid last year. She is the top player on LI. Is the team as good without her? No. Did they play as a team and hav a great season? Yes. Be very careful of what you ask for by going over to YJ. Only the stud of the 2021 girls going over there will break the starters. The other kids will have their deal honored and they will displace 5-6 blue players the rest of the team will not welcome them with open arms. The grass isn't always greener.

The 2020 with all the players they lost are mediocre at best.

No way 5-6 TG girls will make blue, 2-3 yes.

When winning gets you deeper into tournaments and extra looks by coaches the girls are better off. It's also a lot more fun to be on a winning sideline. In Maryland after tryouts M&D and Heros had little roster change (1 or 2 players), Skywalkers kept their key players in tact while adding depth, and TLC has undergone a significant roster change by cutting or losing more than half of their players. Should be a fun Fall to look at the teams before they play in the Spring league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When winning gets you deeper into tournaments and extra looks by coaches the girls are better off. It's also a lot more fun to be on a winning sideline. In Maryland after tryouts M&D and Heros had little roster change (1 or 2 players), Skywalkers kept their key players in tact while adding depth, and TLC has undergone a significant roster change by cutting or losing more than half of their players. Should be a fun Fall to look at the teams before they play in the Spring league.

Sometimes it is fun to be on a winning sideline. Sometimes it isn't. Depends on the sideline.

Winning and "fun" are one in the same to Intense Lax Dad.

For the rest of us, it is much more complex.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning and "fun" are one in the same to Intense Lax Dad.

For the rest of us, it is much more complex.

Spoken like someone that has never won anything nor had to the drive to do so. You don't think that the girls feel that winning is confirmation to them that all of the extra work they put in pays off? There's a reason that the same teams win year after year and it's not all about their natural ability. Some girls work out on their own 3 or 4 days a week on top of their team practices. How nice of you to belittle their accomplishments so that you can feel better about your daughter's team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryouts are over in Baltimore/Central MD and it looks like TLC and Skywalkers picked up several good players from C2, Diamonds and MD United. There should be three very good teams here going forward.

The lavel of competition in the M&D/TLC/Skywalkers fames should be much improved. It will be an interesting Fall.

I hope you're right, but TLC had a LONG way to go to get to that level. Pulling girls from C2 and Diamonds isn't going to be enough to make up that difference. Happy that you are pleased with your new girls though.

Why do you hope they are right? Does it actually matter if they can compete with M&D or not? This winning/losing stuff is all so fleeting. Keep your eye on the ball. Only Intense Lax Dad thinks winning (as compared to a making a winning effort) is truly important. Do not be that guy.

Thanks Captain Fairplay. I hope they are right because it is not fun winning every game by 8-10 goals. The more quality competition that the girls play the better. They improve by playing with and against better players.

I don't thing M&D has to worry anymore about beating TLC and Skywalkers by 8-10 goals.

This week, appearing in the role of Defender of the Girls is Competitive Lax Dad.

Absolutely correct. I'd rather have my daughter play on a club that might go .500 during the tournament season if she plays (as opposed to limited minutes on one of the powerhouses) for a strong coach and enjoys her teammates. Most, if not all, college coaches don't even know who is winning the game. They scout the kids they're interested for 10-15 minutes and then move to the next field. There's validity a previous post that winning teams advance farther into the playoffs, but typically you might have 1-2 extra games at 20 minutes a pop. Not sure how much extra scouting is going on. Top teams usually play their thoroughbreeds anyway with the girls on bottom end of the roster seeing limited, if any time on the field.

Is Integrity even fielding a 2021 team this year? Sounds like they might not even be able to get enough girls to fill out a roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This week, appearing in the role of Defender of the Girls is Competitive Lax Dad.

It's "Intense Lax Dad." Easy to remember because it always starts with a capital "I"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning and "fun" are one in the same to Intense Lax Dad.

For the rest of us, it is much more complex.

Spoken like someone that has never won anything nor had to the drive to do so. You don't think that the girls feel that winning is confirmation to them that all of the extra work they put in pays off? There's a reason that the same teams win year after year and it's not all about their natural ability. Some girls work out on their own 3 or 4 days a week on top of their team practices. How nice of you to belittle their accomplishments so that you can feel better about your daughter's team.

OK. It's official. You are nuts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winning and "fun" are one in the same to Intense Lax Dad.

For the rest of us, it is much more complex.

Spoken like someone that has never won anything nor had to the drive to do so. You don't think that the girls feel that winning is confirmation to them that all of the extra work they put in pays off? There's a reason that the same teams win year after year and it's not all about their natural ability. Some girls work out on their own 3 or 4 days a week on top of their team practices. How nice of you to belittle their accomplishments so that you can feel better about your daughter's team.

Nice try, but he didn't brlitte anybody. But you kinda did. I think you have been pegged.

Think its time for you guys(?) to have a slap fight or a pinching contest to settle this hissy stuff..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When winning gets you deeper into tournaments and extra looks by coaches the girls are better off. It's also a lot more fun to be on a winning sideline. In Maryland after tryouts M&D and Heros had little roster change (1 or 2 players), Skywalkers kept their key players in tact while adding depth, and TLC has undergone a significant roster change by cutting or losing more than half of their players. Should be a fun Fall to look at the teams before they play in the Spring league.

First time to the rodeo, huh? I guess, when you get to G8/G16 next year or the showcase tournaments - you can see how many coaches are at these "deeper into tournaments" games.

Looking for some non-biased feedback here (no bashers please). It seems like YJ has it out for TG organization. Repeatedly I see bashing of TG teams and yet YJ keeps poaching their players. It's almost like TG is scouting for future YJ players. Is YJ recruiting players from other organizations besides TG? I am sincerely just trying to understand, once again, please no negativity.

They are having supplemental tryouts. They'll be OK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When winning gets you deeper into tournaments and extra looks by coaches the girls are better off. It's also a lot more fun to be on a winning sideline. In Maryland after tryouts M&D and Heros had little roster change (1 or 2 players), Skywalkers kept their key players in tact while adding depth, and TLC has undergone a significant roster change by cutting or losing more than half of their players. Should be a fun Fall to look at the teams before they play in the Spring league.

That's a nice theory but I have news for you no coach is sticking around to get extra looks in the hope that a player they are interested in makes the playoffs. Not happening , they will most definately be around on Sat but won't be around on Sun afternoon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Integrity even fielding a 2021 team this year? Sounds like they might not even be able to get enough girls to fill out a roster.

I'm not sure. You'll have to ask the person who seems to know how many players they lost. They (she) seem to have intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the team. I would refer all questions to her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for some non-biased feedback here (no bashers please). It seems like YJ has it out for TG organization. Repeatedly I see bashing of TG teams and yet YJ keeps poaching their players. It's almost like TG is scouting for future YJ players. Is YJ recruiting players from other organizations besides TG? I am sincerely just trying to understand, once again, please no negativity.

What is YJ supposed to do, play nice and NOT try to snatch up the best talent?
I don't know if you know who runs that business but I assure you, it ain't the Boy Scouts.

So the best talent only comes from TG and no other organizations?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So the best talent only comes from TG and no other organizations?

Seems that way. Big drop off after YJ and TG, although I'm sure some talented girls start out on other teams before moving on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When winning gets you deeper into tournaments and extra looks by coaches the girls are better off. It's also a lot more fun to be on a winning sideline. In Maryland after tryouts M&D and Heros had little roster change (1 or 2 players), Skywalkers kept their key players in tact while adding depth, and TLC has undergone a significant roster change by cutting or losing more than half of their players. Should be a fun Fall to look at the teams before they play in the Spring league.

First time to the rodeo, huh? I guess, when you get to G8/G16 next year or the showcase tournaments - you can see how many coaches are at these "deeper into tournaments" games.

Since when did playing a sport to try to win the game become a bad thing? Just curious. Do you have to labeled Intense if you are a girl who wants to win? Is this just in girl's sports that the players and coaches aren't supposed to want to win? Seems kinda sexist. Whether college coaches are watching or not should be irrelevant. Making great plays under pressure and coming out on top should be celebrated, no? I am NOT saying it's the only thing that makes sports "worth it", but certainly it's something to aspire to and work towards?

Nothing wrong with winning. Everything wrong with that being the sole factor that defines success. Most people realize that. Intense Lax Dad does not.

PS Nobody on this side was labeling girls. Just their Intense Lax Dads.

Hold on folks. This Intense Lax Dad may be an Intense Lax MOM! I know one who will stop at nothing to make sure her kid always looks like the star of the team, even when it's apparent she is not. Do, don't be so quick to stereotype.

In my opinion, it's one of the many ways a club like YJ keeps the competition down, and (in a way) it's an admittance that they know they're not good at developing players, so they let other clubs do it for them, then swoop in, promise the world to the parents and reap the rewards. The same thing happens in MD. Md United is infamous for attempting to do the same thing. You do not see M&D, Heros or (to a lesser degree) SkyWalkers poach players. Girls will freely tryout for those teams, but Md United actively poaches players in the 2020/2021 age group...very similarly to YJ. The problem comes later for them though, when the parents and kids realize they could've just stayed where they were and gotten to the same schools without all of the YJ or Md United s*#t show drama. But, by that time the damage is done and CR and BA are laughing all the way to the bank. When will parents learn to think for themselves?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You do not see M&D, Heros or (to a lesser degree) SkyWalkers poach players.

Dude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hold on folks. This Intense Lax Dad may be an Intense Lax MOM! I know one who will stop at nothing to make sure her kid always looks like the star of the team, even when it's apparent she is not. Do, don't be so quick to stereotype.

Trust me. This one is a dad. Spot 'em a mile away.

That is totally wrong !! Non of these clubs develope the kids ..they just showcase ...kids develop on their own time ...better kids just gravitate together ....the better kids make each other better ...just seems that m&d and yj have best overall coaching on top teams ..just a fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my opinion, it's one of the many ways a club like YJ keeps the competition down, and (in a way) it's an admittance that they know they're not good at developing players, so they let other clubs do it for them, then swoop in, promise the world to the parents and reap the rewards. The same thing happens in MD. Md United is infamous for attempting to do the same thing. You do not see M&D, Heros or (to a lesser degree) SkyWalkers poach players. Girls will freely tryout for those teams, but Md United actively poaches players in the 2020/2021 age group...very similarly to YJ. The problem comes later for them though, when the parents and kids realize they could've just stayed where they were and gotten to the same schools without all of the YJ or Md United s*#t show drama. But, by that time the damage is done and CR and BA are laughing all the way to the bank. When will parents learn to think for themselves?

You guys have it flat out wrong. All these best TG players are not being poached, they are willingly and actively looking to jump ship, I know from experience. It is a one way exchange and more would try to jump but only a couple top girls are up to the jump talent wise. They rest have to weigh TG black vs YJ 2nd team maybe even 3rd team and other clubs. And it looks like most are even choosing those options these days. You would think people would be happy with a secure spot on black but many of us were not. No ill will, good luck to all who choose TG, there are many paths one can take to get to the same place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is totally wrong !! Non of these clubs develope the kids ..they just showcase ...kids develop on their own time ...better kids just gravitate together ....the better kids make each other better ...just seems that m&d and yj have best overall coaching on top teams ..just a fact

YJ lost bad in most age groups to Maryland teams. While parent coaches had their kids in the whole game. How is that good coaching? would agree with the statement that the best get better by working hard on their own time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my opinion, it's one of the many ways a club like YJ keeps the competition down, and (in a way) it's an admittance that they know they're not good at developing players, so they let other clubs do it for them, then swoop in, promise the world to the parents and reap the rewards. The same thing happens in MD. Md United is infamous for attempting to do the same thing. You do not see M&D, Heros or (to a lesser degree) SkyWalkers poach players. Girls will freely tryout for those teams, but Md United actively poaches players in the 2020/2021 age group...very similarly to YJ. The problem comes later for them though, when the parents and kids realize they could've just stayed where they were and gotten to the same schools without all of the YJ or Md United s*#t show drama. But, by that time the damage is done and CR and BA are laughing all the way to the bank. When will parents learn to think for themselves?

You guys have it flat out wrong. All these best TG players are not being poached, they are willingly and actively looking to jump ship, I know from experience. It is a one way exchange and more would try to jump but only a couple top girls are up to the jump talent wise. They rest have to weigh TG black vs YJ 2nd team maybe even 3rd team and other clubs. And it looks like most are even choosing those options these days. You would think people would be happy with a secure spot on black but many of us were not. No ill will, good luck to all who choose TG, there are many paths one can take to get to the same place.

TG has been bleeding talent and they seem to care less and less. No need to care about and do more for the top team, as purple and black pay the same. Once they collect their fall payments, you wont hear or do anything until they start up their cheeseball winter clinic which is sub par. After that you wont hear from them for months until you start practice in May. You wont even meet your coaches until the first tournament. No wonder top players are running from this program. The ones who stay are the ones who don't know any better the ill informed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my opinion, it's one of the many ways a club like YJ keeps the competition down, and (in a way) it's an admittance that they know they're not good at developing players, so they let other clubs do it for them, then swoop in, promise the world to the parents and reap the rewards. The same thing happens in MD. Md United is infamous for attempting to do the same thing. You do not see M&D, Heros or (to a lesser degree) SkyWalkers poach players. Girls will freely tryout for those teams, but Md United actively poaches players in the 2020/2021 age group...very similarly to YJ. The problem comes later for them though, when the parents and kids realize they could've just stayed where they were and gotten to the same schools without all of the YJ or Md United s*#t show drama. But, by that time the damage is done and CR and BA are laughing all the way to the bank. When will parents learn to think for themselves?

You guys have it flat out wrong. All these best TG players are not being poached, they are willingly and actively looking to jump ship, I know from experience. It is a one way exchange and more would try to jump but only a couple top girls are up to the jump talent wise. They rest have to weigh TG black vs YJ 2nd team maybe even 3rd team and other clubs. And it looks like most are even choosing those options these days. You would think people would be happy with a secure spot on black but many of us were not. No ill will, good luck to all who choose TG, there are many paths one can take to get to the same place.

TG has been bleeding talent and they seem to care less and less. No need to care about and do more for the top team, as purple and black pay the same. Once they collect their fall payments, you wont hear or do anything until they start up their cheeseball winter clinic which is sub par. After that you wont hear from them for months until you start practice in May. You wont even meet your coaches until the first tournament. No wonder top players are running from this program. The ones who stay are the ones who don't know any better the ill informed.

And other teams are different. YJ does the same, and I'm sure others as well

Which yj age groups are you talking about that lost bad to Maryland teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my opinion, it's one of the many ways a club like YJ keeps the competition down, and (in a way) it's an admittance that they know they're not good at developing players, so they let other clubs do it for them, then swoop in, promise the world to the parents and reap the rewards. The same thing happens in MD. Md United is infamous for attempting to do the same thing. You do not see M&D, Heros or (to a lesser degree) SkyWalkers poach players. Girls will freely tryout for those teams, but Md United actively poaches players in the 2020/2021 age group...very similarly to YJ. The problem comes later for them though, when the parents and kids realize they could've just stayed where they were and gotten to the same schools without all of the YJ or Md United s*#t show drama. But, by that time the damage is done and CR and BA are laughing all the way to the bank. When will parents learn to think for themselves?

You guys have it flat out wrong. All these best TG players are not being poached, they are willingly and actively looking to jump ship, I know from experience. It is a one way exchange and more would try to jump but only a couple top girls are up to the jump talent wise. They rest have to weigh TG black vs YJ 2nd team maybe even 3rd team and other clubs. And it looks like most are even choosing those options these days. You would think people would be happy with a secure spot on black but many of us were not. No ill will, good luck to all who choose TG, there are many paths one can take to get to the same place.

TG has been bleeding talent and they seem to care less and less. No need to care about and do more for the top team, as purple and black pay the same. Once they collect their fall payments, you wont hear or do anything until they start up their cheeseball winter clinic which is sub par. After that you wont hear from them for months until you start practice in May. You wont even meet your coaches until the first tournament. No wonder top players are running from this program. The ones who stay are the ones who don't know any better the ill informed.

And other teams are different. YJ does the same, and I'm sure others as well

I don't understand, YJ does the same thing as TG?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my opinion, it's one of the many ways a club like YJ keeps the competition down, and (in a way) it's an admittance that they know they're not good at developing players, so they let other clubs do it for them, then swoop in, promise the world to the parents and reap the rewards. The same thing happens in MD. Md United is infamous for attempting to do the same thing. You do not see M&D, Heros or (to a lesser degree) SkyWalkers poach players. Girls will freely tryout for those teams, but Md United actively poaches players in the 2020/2021 age group...very similarly to YJ. The problem comes later for them though, when the parents and kids realize they could've just stayed where they were and gotten to the same schools without all of the YJ or Md United s*#t show drama. But, by that time the damage is done and CR and BA are laughing all the way to the bank. When will parents learn to think for themselves?

You guys have it flat out wrong. All these best TG players are not being poached, they are willingly and actively looking to jump ship, I know from experience. It is a one way exchange and more would try to jump but only a couple top girls are up to the jump talent wise. They rest have to weigh TG black vs YJ 2nd team maybe even 3rd team and other clubs. And it looks like most are even choosing those options these days. You would think people would be happy with a secure spot on black but many of us were not. No ill will, good luck to all who choose TG, there are many paths one can take to get to the same place.

Why were you unhappy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my opinion, it's one of the many ways a club like YJ keeps the competition down, and (in a way) it's an admittance that they know they're not good at developing players, so they let other clubs do it for them, then swoop in, promise the world to the parents and reap the rewards. The same thing happens in MD. Md United is infamous for attempting to do the same thing. You do not see M&D, Heros or (to a lesser degree) SkyWalkers poach players. Girls will freely tryout for those teams, but Md United actively poaches players in the 2020/2021 age group...very similarly to YJ. The problem comes later for them though, when the parents and kids realize they could've just stayed where they were and gotten to the same schools without all of the YJ or Md United s*#t show drama. But, by that time the damage is done and CR and BA are laughing all the way to the bank. When will parents learn to think for themselves?

You guys have it flat out wrong. All these best TG players are not being poached, they are willingly and actively looking to jump ship, I know from experience. It is a one way exchange and more would try to jump but only a couple top girls are up to the jump talent wise. They rest have to weigh TG black vs YJ 2nd team maybe even 3rd team and other clubs. And it looks like most are even choosing those options these days. You would think people would be happy with a secure spot on black but many of us were not. No ill will, good luck to all who choose TG, there are many paths one can take to get to the same place.

Why were you unhappy?

There are many reasons why people are unhappy at TG. Promised "world class" coaching and you get 2 college girls on their phones during practice. 10 extra practices for more money and half of them are canceled. During practices, no defensive schemes are taught. Teams are not balanced by position. Ball hogs are encouraged. And if that's not enough, watching SS walk past a family with two girls in their TG uniforms and she doesn't even say hi to them. That shows me why families are jumping ship. Like any business transaction, you want to be satisfied with your purchase. If you're not getting what you want you look at other choices.

1. Poor coaching, both in practice and in games. Coaches hung over, not showing for practices, college girl drama interfering with their coaching relationship. This team is going to have a new set of coaches for the fourth time. BS comes over half way through games and reshuffles everything game time, starts barking orders even though
He has spent little time with the team.
2. The program is essentially a 3 month program and
Everyone scatters. Girls can't build continuity,
3. No development model, no plan for the girls. Camps and practices are haphazard and are redundant.
4. Lax IQ is not stressed, the girls
Don't learn the game. They only learn skills. This is a big reason why they can't compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which yj age groups are you talking about that lost bad to Maryland teams?

2021, 2022 and 2023. Don't think any of them beat one of the top MD teams all summer

The amazing part is even with all these issues they still managed to consistently beat All Long Island teams except Liberty ...( yellow jackets in a completely different league ) Liberty games are always one goal games not because of talent but because of quality coaching by Liberty ...and next year they will still compete with all including Liberty after the top purple girls move up ...there is always a big gap between top 30 or so in an age group from Long Island and then a lot of evenly skilled players ...it will be interesting to see next seasons results between Liberty top guns elevate leg a sea and express ...I'm assuming all will be close with Liberty leading the way..and express and leg a sea seeing the most improvement ..

I saw A LOT of Elevate bags walking into Liberty tryouts this weekend. During tryouts my daughter asked a few which team they played on and they said the blue team at Elevate. Two questions. Is blue the higher Elevate team in that age group and why are there so many kids leaving Elevate? Thanks for the input.

Same thing at YJ if it makes you feel any better!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Poor coaching, both in practice and in games. Coaches hung over, not showing for practices, college girl drama interfering with their coaching relationship. This team is going to have a new set of coaches for the fourth time. BS comes over half way through games and reshuffles everything game time, starts barking orders even though
He has spent little time with the team.
2. The program is essentially a 3 month program and
Everyone scatters. Girls can't build continuity,
3. No development model, no plan for the girls. Camps and practices are haphazard and are redundant.
4. Lax IQ is not stressed, the girls
Don't learn the game. They only learn skills. This is a big reason why they can't compete.

Sounds like your daughter rode the pine and you're bitter! What your saying happens at other clubs as well including the YJ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The amazing part is even with all these issues they still managed to consistently beat All Long Island teams except Liberty ...( yellow jackets in a completely different league ) Liberty games are always one goal games not because of talent but because of quality coaching by Liberty ...and next year they will still compete with all including Liberty after the top purple girls move up ...there is always a big gap between top 30 or so in an age group from Long Island and then a lot of evenly skilled players ...it will be interesting to see next seasons results between Liberty top guns elevate leg a sea and express ...I'm assuming all will be close with Liberty leading the way..and express and leg a sea seeing the most improvement ..

There are some ages where YJ is best (on LI) and others where they are not. The younger age YJ like 2024, 2023, 2022, 2021 are not anything special. They are not competitive with MD teams and would at best be competitive with other top LI teams, no blowouts or superstars! I'm not sure where you get your claims but they are not backed by fact

Blue is the A team at TE. I don't know why so many are looking to leave. Somewhere on this forum it is mentioned there were about 10 TE girls at TG tryout, they attributed it to moving up the ladder (just like the TG players leaving for YJ).

[quote=Anonymous]Blue is the A team at TE. I don't know why so many are looking to leave. Somewhere on this forum it is mentioned there were about 10 TE girls at TG tryout, they attributed it to moving up the ladder (just like the TG players leaving for YJ). [/quote

Most were TE red not blue. TG would not be an upgrade for most of the top TE players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The amazing part is even with all these issues they still managed to consistently beat All Long Island teams except Liberty ...( yellow jackets in a completely different league ) Liberty games are always one goal games not because of talent but because of quality coaching by Liberty ...and next year they will still compete with all including Liberty after the top purple girls move up ...there is always a big gap between top 30 or so in an age group from Long Island and then a lot of evenly skilled players ...it will be interesting to see next seasons results between Liberty top guns elevate leg a sea and express ...I'm assuming all will be close with Liberty leading the way..and express and leg a sea seeing the most improvement ..

There are some ages where YJ is best (on LI) and others where they are not. The younger age YJ like 2024, 2023, 2022, 2021 are not anything special. They are not competitive with MD teams and would at best be competitive with other top LI teams, no blowouts or superstars! I'm not sure where you get your claims but they are not backed by fact

2021 did not beat M&D this past season I will grant you that but other than M&D you should really get your facts straight about competing with MD. 2021 has never lost to a LI team. Just the facts !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The amazing part is even with all these issues they still managed to consistently beat All Long Island teams except Liberty ...( yellow jackets in a completely different league ) Liberty games are always one goal games not because of talent but because of quality coaching by Liberty ...and next year they will still compete with all including Liberty after the top purple girls move up ...there is always a big gap between top 30 or so in an age group from Long Island and then a lot of evenly skilled players ...it will be interesting to see next seasons results between Liberty top guns elevate leg a sea and express ...I'm assuming all will be close with Liberty leading the way..and express and leg a sea seeing the most improvement ..

There are some ages where YJ is best (on LI) and others where they are not. The younger age YJ like 2024, 2023, 2022, 2021 are not anything special. They are not competitive with MD teams and would at best be competitive with other top LI teams, no blowouts or superstars! I'm not sure where you get your claims but they are not backed by fact

M&D is the Gold standard in Maryland, YJ the Gold standard on LI. I give a slight edge to M&D overall as a club. There is a large drop to the club's lagging. Most of those younger age groups you reference, YJ have the best teams on the Island that compete very well with the best teams in MD and will continue to widen the gap every year, like always. Spin it anyway you need to to help you sleep at night, it sounds like you actually believe what your saying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Blue is the A team at TE. I don't know why so many are looking to leave. Somewhere on this forum it is mentioned there were about 10 TE girls at TG tryout, they attributed it to moving up the ladder (just like the TG players leaving for YJ). [/quote

Most were TE red not blue. TG would not be an upgrade for most of the top TE players.

I was only replying to the poster who said that there a lot of TE Blue at Liberty Tryouts.

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

I don't understand why you are surprised. There will likely be quite a bit of movement amongst team in this age group as recruiting will really be heating up. And EVERYONE is never happy - with anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Again, Liberty, TG or YJ B would not be an upgrade for the majority of TE blue players. The only true upgrade for any of these teams would be YJ A. Any other movement between clubs is just trading uniforms and one set of issues for another.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

Nobody from TE will make Liberty A unless you are a GK. There will be plenty of spots on Liberty B as half the current team has already walked away in disgust. When 3/4 of the A team are from Manahasset that's an issue. I would rather take my chance at TE who by the way easily beat Liberty this summer.

no te blue players are even close to making yj blue ...te lost to tg everytime they played last two years ..granted that will change this year with all the changes at tg

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

That's a good point about coaching at these clubs. We spent 2 years at Elevate with little growth. We moved to Liberty last year and my daughter really excelled. After Elevate we were about to abandon travel lacrosse. I am happy we gave it one more shot with Liberty!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

no te blue players are even close to making yj blue ...te lost to tg everytime they played last two years ..granted that will change this year with all the changes at tg

How many spots are up for grabs on YJ A? If you believe what you read, 4 girls have already been offered spots (3 TG, 1 Exp). Will they look to change one or two more?

If they pull up a token B player it doesn't feel like any outsiders have a snowballs chance of making this team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

Nobody from TE will make Liberty A unless you are a GK. There will be plenty of spots on Liberty B as half the current team has already walked away in disgust. When 3/4 of the A team are from Manahasset that's an issue. I would rather take my chance at TE who by the way easily beat Liberty this summer.

And TG beat Elevate, & Liberty beat TG. These teams all sound on par with each other. What does GK mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

Nobody from TE will make Liberty A unless you are a GK. There will be plenty of spots on Liberty B as half the current team has already walked away in disgust. When 3/4 of the A team are from Manahasset that's an issue. I would rather take my chance at TE who by the way easily beat Liberty this summer.

And TG beat Elevate, & Liberty beat TG. These teams all sound on par with each other. What does GK mean?

Goal Keeper

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

Nobody from TE will make Liberty A unless you are a GK. There will be plenty of spots on Liberty B as half the current team has already walked away in disgust. When 3/4 of the A team are from Manahasset that's an issue. I would rather take my chance at TE who by the way easily beat Liberty this summer.

And TG beat Elevate, & Liberty beat TG. These teams all sound on par with each other. What does GK mean?

Goal Keeper, that's still a big weakness for this team and the position that could make the biggest impact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

So you say it's very true but do tell us how you know there were a lot of TE girls at Lib and TG tryouts? Were you at both?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

So you say it's very true but do tell us how you know there were a lot of TE girls at Lib and TG tryouts? Were you at both?

Idk a out bring at TG tryouts but they were at Liberty tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

So you say it's very true but do tell us how you know there were a lot of TE girls at Lib and TG tryouts? Were you at both?

Idk a out bring at TG tryouts but they were at Liberty tryouts.

And I know of some at TG tryouts. And people could have attended both tryouts as one was on Fri and one on Sat.

Lookin like integrity entered into the upper tier with mnd an heros!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lookin like integrity entered into the upper tier with mnd an heros!!

Why does it look like that? M&D beat them 20-3 last year and Heros beat them 14-8. Don't forget Skywalkers. They beat Integrity 15-5. You did tie C2 and Diamonds though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lookin like integrity entered into the upper tier with mnd an heros!!

Why does it look like that? M&D beat them 20-3 last year and Heros beat them 14-8. Don't forget Skywalkers. They beat Integrity 15-5. You did tie C2 and Diamonds though.

WARNING: Do not mess with Intense Lax Dad. He knows all the scores and has appointed himself as the Sergeant in Charge of Keeping it Real. Bottom line? His team is awesome. Your team? Not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lookin like integrity entered into the upper tier with mnd an heros!!

Why does it look like that? M&D beat them 20-3 last year and Heros beat them 14-8. Don't forget Skywalkers. They beat Integrity 15-5. You did tie C2 and Diamonds though.

WARNING: Do not mess with Intense Lax Dad. He knows all the scores and has appointed himself as the Sergeant in Charge of Keeping it Real. Bottom line? His team is awesome. Your team? Not so much.

You seem to have a real problem with Heros, M&D and Skywalkers. What's your deal? Please enlighten us as to which club your daughter plays for that is just out to have fun and doesn't prioritize winning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lookin like integrity entered into the upper tier with mnd an heros!!

Why does it look like that? M&D beat them 20-3 last year and Heros beat them 14-8. Don't forget Skywalkers. They beat Integrity 15-5. You did tie C2 and Diamonds though.

WARNING: Do not mess with Intense Lax Dad. He knows all the scores and has appointed himself as the Sergeant in Charge of Keeping it Real. Bottom line? His team is awesome. Your team? Not so much.

Hey guys...like I said earlier this week. I'm not convinced this is Intense Lax Dad. It may be a more intense Intense Lax Mom. The one that poisoned the Integrity sidelines is a real piece of work. This is her m.o. She's the type (just like Intense Lax Dad) that knows all the scores because she wrote them down, recorded her daughter's stats, recorded how many minutes her daughter played AND (somehow) recorded how many minutes others girls played relative to her future full-ride Terp. I would avoid at all costs. She will stop at nothing until Coach Reese knocks on her door, begging.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lookin like integrity entered into the upper tier with mnd an heros!!

Why does it look like that? M&D beat them 20-3 last year and Heros beat them 14-8. Don't forget Skywalkers. They beat Integrity 15-5. You did tie C2 and Diamonds though.

WARNING: Do not mess with Intense Lax Dad. He knows all the scores and has appointed himself as the Sergeant in Charge of Keeping it Real. Bottom line? His team is awesome. Your team? Not so much.

Hey guys...like I said earlier this week. I'm not convinced this is Intense Lax Dad. It may be a more intense Intense Lax Mom. The one that poisoned the Integrity sidelines is a real piece of work. This is her m.o. She's the type (just like Intense Lax Dad) that knows all the scores because she wrote them down, recorded her daughter's stats, recorded how many minutes her daughter played AND (somehow) recorded how many minutes others girls played relative to her future full-ride Terp. I would avoid at all costs. She will stop at nothing until Coach Reese knocks on her door, begging.

Oh, and here's another example of ILM's outlook. She wasn't a fan of having the 2021 team practice with the 2020's because it made her daughter look bad (the Integrity 2020's are very good). But, she was a fan of having the 2021's practice against the 2022's because it allowed her daughter to look good. Are you freakin' kidding me?! So, as was mentioned earlier...good riddance for Integrity. Her level of "stability" fits perfectly with Md United.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lookin like integrity entered into the upper tier with mnd an heros!!

Why does it look like that? M&D beat them 20-3 last year and Heros beat them 14-8. Don't forget Skywalkers. They beat Integrity 15-5. You did tie C2 and Diamonds though.

WARNING: Do not mess with Intense Lax Dad. He knows all the scores and has appointed himself as the Sergeant in Charge of Keeping it Real. Bottom line? His team is awesome. Your team? Not so much.

You seem to have a real problem with Heros, M&D and Skywalkers. What's your deal? Please enlighten us as to which club your daughter plays for that is just out to have fun and doesn't prioritize winning.

Intense Lax Dad getting his "dandruff" up.

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

M&D is still the top team at this age (until someone beats them). In the mid-atlantic, who is #2? Stars from Alexandria? Followed by Heros, Skywalkers and Nems?

Whether it's Lax Mom or Dad, sounds like whatever team she plays for is going to have their hands full. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

You guys are funny. It must be so nice to pay $2000 to a club with no intention or desire to win. As long as the girls are having fun right? That's what is important and really is the true intention of club lacrosse. You call people intense for what reason? Because their kids are driven to succeed and improve and take pride and joy out of the fruits of their hard work? No one was on here pumping up their child or their club. The one post was in response to Integrity joining M&D and Heros as a top club at this age. You can sit on your high horse all you want and point fingers and criticize. There's a reason that the top clubs are the same every year and a big reason is that they do not have parents like you involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

You guys are funny. It must be so nice to pay $2000 to a club with no intention or desire to win. As long as the girls are having fun right? That's what is important and really is the true intention of club lacrosse. You call people intense for what reason? Because their kids are driven to succeed and improve and take pride and joy out of the fruits of their hard work? No one was on here pumping up their child or their club. The one post was in response to Integrity joining M&D and Heros as a top club at this age. You can sit on your high horse all you want and point fingers and criticize. There's a reason that the top clubs are the same every year and a big reason is that they do not have parents like you involved.

The comments are not directed at ILD's/M's kid. It's been my experience that the kids aren't as intense as the parents say they are. It's ILD and ILM that are the intense ones. So, the comments are toward them. Everyone likes to win but the difference comes when winning at all costs becomes the goal for ILD and M, and not developing a good/very good player who then learns to work hard on her own becomes secondary. Poor ILM's kid...she will be considered a failure (by ILM) if she doesn't get that full-ride to U of Md. Must be something in that Cape water?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The shame of it is essentially like the 2020 team any kid that can make YJ top team leaves and the kids that would be on 2-3 yj team stay and are not really competitive with the top clubs. Not sure how CR does it but somehow manages to keep the top kids in her club while attracting the best players from the other clubs.

We have the same issue here in MD. Although not as good or successful as YJ, Md United seems to be able to convince gullible parents that their kid would be better off at their program. Other clubs, with clearly better coaching, suffer because of the bill-of-goods that Bev Altig is able to sell. What I've learned to do over the many years I've been involved with lax is to look at where the clubs alumni go to school. With the obvious exceptions (Caroline Steele to UMd, Madison Carter to PSU) the schools that the alumni from Md United attend are exactly the same as any other club. Why the parents can't see that is beyond me. I've even seen situations where the parents will pull the kid from the programs she was happy at and move her to Md United, where (not shockingly) she would wind up going to the same school as she would've if she had just stayed where she was in the first place. Plus, I personally know several girls who played at Md United who said it was an absolute s#&t show and they hated it, but MOMMY and DADDY thought she was better off there. Absolutely, freakin' ridiculous. My guess is that YJ does the same thing...big promises to all (mostly donkey MOMMY and DADDY) but in reality only the top few get to go to somewhere they would've have if they stayed at their original team. Everybody else goes to the same kind of school no matter what club they play for. I hate gullible parents who can't see the bigger picture.

It seems the Florist is finally noticing that the Club is falling apart. This is the same bitterness the girls saw all year. About 14 of her 21's are now at three other clubs. I am sure they are not afraid of their new coaches!!! On top of the player who left mid season last year.

Afraid of their coaches? Which ones? I'm curious. Your accusations are insane.

I have to ask...Which coaches was your daughter afraid of? The two coaches they had could not have been nicer. The team went about 15-5 this summer, mix of A and B brackets. Overall a pretty good summer for 8th GRADERS! It's parents like you Ms Poison, that ruin the game for nice parents and players. As was said earlier, take your poison to Md United. It's exactly where you belong.

ILD/M? You were asked which coach(es) were the girls afraid of and you never elaborated. Care to fill us in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

You guys are funny. It must be so nice to pay $2000 to a club with no intention or desire to win. As long as the girls are having fun right? That's what is important and really is the true intention of club lacrosse. You call people intense for what reason? Because their kids are driven to succeed and improve and take pride and joy out of the fruits of their hard work? No one was on here pumping up their child or their club. The one post was in response to Integrity joining M&D and Heros as a top club at this age. You can sit on your high horse all you want and point fingers and criticize. There's a reason that the top clubs are the same every year and a big reason is that they do not have parents like you involved.

The comments are not directed at ILD's/M's kid. It's been my experience that the kids aren't as intense as the parents say they are. It's ILD and ILM that are the intense ones. So, the comments are toward them. Everyone likes to win but the difference comes when winning at all costs becomes the goal for ILD and M, and not developing a good/very good player who then learns to work hard on her own becomes secondary. Poor ILM's kid...she will be considered a failure (by ILM) if she doesn't get that full-ride to U of Md. Must be something in that Cape water?

There was an ILD on the sidelines too. He claimed he played in college at the yard, claimed the director of Integrity does not know what she's doing (she's coached NCAA D1, D2, high school and WCLA), etc. He also seemed to have a problem with a male coach or two who did not play in college, yet ILD didn't play women's lax in college either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

You guys are funny. It must be so nice to pay $2000 to a club with no intention or desire to win. As long as the girls are having fun right? That's what is important and really is the true intention of club lacrosse. You call people intense for what reason? Because their kids are driven to succeed and improve and take pride and joy out of the fruits of their hard work? No one was on here pumping up their child or their club. The one post was in response to Integrity joining M&D and Heros as a top club at this age. You can sit on your high horse all you want and point fingers and criticize. There's a reason that the top clubs are the same every year and a big reason is that they do not have parents like you involved.

The comments are not directed at ILD's/M's kid. It's been my experience that the kids aren't as intense as the parents say they are. It's ILD and ILM that are the intense ones. So, the comments are toward them. Everyone likes to win but the difference comes when winning at all costs becomes the goal for ILD and M, and not developing a good/very good player who then learns to work hard on her own becomes secondary. Poor ILM's kid...she will be considered a failure (by ILM) if she doesn't get that full-ride to U of Md. Must be something in that Cape water?

It's been my experience that the really successful programs do in fact have girls that are self-motivated and intense about training and getting better. I don't think they look at it as win at all costs as you say. I also don't think that the majority of the girls have the intention of playing at MD. Many see it as an opportunity to attend whatever school they want academically and that lacrosse can open doors for them. You can label people intense all you want. I agree there are some crazies, but the majority of parents are doing what their kids want.

I'm confused. How is Integrity joining Heros and M&D in the top echelon if, according to previous posters, 14 kids have left Integrity for other clubs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

You guys are funny. It must be so nice to pay $2000 to a club with no intention or desire to win. As long as the girls are having fun right? That's what is important and really is the true intention of club lacrosse. You call people intense for what reason? Because their kids are driven to succeed and improve and take pride and joy out of the fruits of their hard work? No one was on here pumping up their child or their club. The one post was in response to Integrity joining M&D and Heros as a top club at this age. You can sit on your high horse all you want and point fingers and criticize. There's a reason that the top clubs are the same every year and a big reason is that they do not have parents like you involved.

The comments are not directed at ILD's/M's kid. It's been my experience that the kids aren't as intense as the parents say they are. It's ILD and ILM that are the intense ones. So, the comments are toward them. Everyone likes to win but the difference comes when winning at all costs becomes the goal for ILD and M, and not developing a good/very good player who then learns to work hard on her own becomes secondary. Poor ILM's kid...she will be considered a failure (by ILM) if she doesn't get that full-ride to U of Md. Must be something in that Cape water?

It's been my experience that the really successful programs do in fact have girls that are self-motivated and intense about training and getting better. I don't think they look at it as win at all costs as you say. I also don't think that the majority of the girls have the intention of playing at MD. Many see it as an opportunity to attend whatever school they want academically and that lacrosse can open doors for them. You can label people intense all you want. I agree there are some crazies, but the majority of parents are doing what their kids want.

We are not talking about the "majority of the parents." We are talking about ILD. He's nuts. The majority of parents do not come onto this forum to chest-thump, recite scores, or to tell you how good their team is. In fact, the majority of parents are unaware of this board.

You are right, many parents are not ILD. But this guy is. Look out below, here come some game scores!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

You guys are funny. It must be so nice to pay $2000 to a club with no intention or desire to win. As long as the girls are having fun right? That's what is important and really is the true intention of club lacrosse. You call people intense for what reason? Because their kids are driven to succeed and improve and take pride and joy out of the fruits of their hard work? No one was on here pumping up their child or their club. The one post was in response to Integrity joining M&D and Heros as a top club at this age. You can sit on your high horse all you want and point fingers and criticize. There's a reason that the top clubs are the same every year and a big reason is that they do not have parents like you involved.

The comments are not directed at ILD's/M's kid. It's been my experience that the kids aren't as intense as the parents say they are. It's ILD and ILM that are the intense ones. So, the comments are toward them. Everyone likes to win but the difference comes when winning at all costs becomes the goal for ILD and M, and not developing a good/very good player who then learns to work hard on her own becomes secondary. Poor ILM's kid...she will be considered a failure (by ILM) if she doesn't get that full-ride to U of Md. Must be something in that Cape water?

It's been my experience that the really successful programs do in fact have girls that are self-motivated and intense about training and getting better. I don't think they look at it as win at all costs as you say. I also don't think that the majority of the girls have the intention of playing at MD. Many see it as an opportunity to attend whatever school they want academically and that lacrosse can open doors for them. You can label people intense all you want. I agree there are some crazies, but the majority of parents are doing what their kids want.

We are not talking about the "majority of the parents." We are talking about ILD. He's nuts. The majority of parents do not come onto this forum to chest-thump, recite scores, or to tell you how good their team is. In fact, the majority of parents are unaware of this board.

You are right, many parents are not ILD. But this guy is. Look out below, here come some game scores!!!

The game scores were in reference to someone claiming that Integrity was going to join the top teams. The person didn't even reference who their daughter played for just pointed out that the top teams had easily beaten Integrity this year. Not sure how you take that as chest thumping, but whatever. Seems to me you are pretty intense as you are on here posting multiple times a day.

Then please 'xplain to me Lucy. How do you know or remember the scores then? And, why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

You guys are funny. It must be so nice to pay $2000 to a club with no intention or desire to win. As long as the girls are having fun right? That's what is important and really is the true intention of club lacrosse. You call people intense for what reason? Because their kids are driven to succeed and improve and take pride and joy out of the fruits of their hard work? No one was on here pumping up their child or their club. The one post was in response to Integrity joining M&D and Heros as a top club at this age. You can sit on your high horse all you want and point fingers and criticize. There's a reason that the top clubs are the same every year and a big reason is that they do not have parents like you involved.

The comments are not directed at ILD's/M's kid. It's been my experience that the kids aren't as intense as the parents say they are. It's ILD and ILM that are the intense ones. So, the comments are toward them. Everyone likes to win but the difference comes when winning at all costs becomes the goal for ILD and M, and not developing a good/very good player who then learns to work hard on her own becomes secondary. Poor ILM's kid...she will be considered a failure (by ILM) if she doesn't get that full-ride to U of Md. Must be something in that Cape water?

It's been my experience that the really successful programs do in fact have girls that are self-motivated and intense about training and getting better. I don't think they look at it as win at all costs as you say. I also don't think that the majority of the girls have the intention of playing at MD. Many see it as an opportunity to attend whatever school they want academically and that lacrosse can open doors for them. You can label people intense all you want. I agree there are some crazies, but the majority of parents are doing what their kids want.

We are not talking about the "majority of the parents." We are talking about ILD. He's nuts. The majority of parents do not come onto this forum to chest-thump, recite scores, or to tell you how good their team is. In fact, the majority of parents are unaware of this board.

You are right, many parents are not ILD. But this guy is. Look out below, here come some game scores!!!

The game scores were in reference to someone claiming that Integrity was going to join the top teams. The person didn't even reference who their daughter played for just pointed out that the top teams had easily beaten Integrity this year. Not sure how you take that as chest thumping, but whatever. Seems to me you are pretty intense as you are on here posting multiple times a day.

Thanks ILD/M. Scoreboard!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then please 'xplain to me Lucy. How do you know or remember the scores then? And, why?

Don't you know that Al Gore created this place where you can lookup scores? Who the [lacrosse] remembers scores of their own games, let alone those of other teams? Unless the poster is a former Integrity parent that was at all the games.

Can you morons take your Integrity pissing match to the MD boards? We don't care.

And the rest of the world gives a crap about whether the 2nd string YJ goalie is moving to TG or Liberty.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you morons take your Integrity pissing match to the MD boards? We don't care.

ILD's Response: Hey, we beat all the Long Island teams this year. 14-4, 13-2, 16-1, 10-4 (20 minute game, that's the only reason it was close), 19-0, 18-3, and 12-1. It's a shame, we could really use some more competition. Our girls are bored. It's a shame that we are the only awesome team. Our girls work harder than everybody else though, so it figures. Gotta hand it to them, they really do outwork everybody else. I wish you all would work hard too. See ya at the fields!!!

Oh, I don't know about that. Nothing like watching a good cat fight every now and then. Hopefully out of this spat we will find out if Integrity will even have enough players to compete in the fall tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you morons take your Integrity pissing match to the MD boards? We don't care.

ILD's Response: Hey, we beat all the Long Island teams this year. 14-4, 13-2, 16-1, 10-4 (20 minute game, that's the only reason it was close), 19-0, 18-3, and 12-1. It's a shame, we could really use some more competition. Our girls are bored. It's a shame that we are the only awesome team. Our girls work harder than everybody else though, so it figures. Gotta hand it to them, they really do outwork everybody else. I wish you all would work hard too. See ya at the fields!!!

What's so funny is that you're the only one worked up here. You seem the most intense lax dad on here these days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He didn't say anything about the clubs. He was just talking about YOU. Intense lax dad/mom.

You guys are funny. It must be so nice to pay $2000 to a club with no intention or desire to win. As long as the girls are having fun right? That's what is important and really is the true intention of club lacrosse. You call people intense for what reason? Because their kids are driven to succeed and improve and take pride and joy out of the fruits of their hard work? No one was on here pumping up their child or their club. The one post was in response to Integrity joining M&D and Heros as a top club at this age. You can sit on your high horse all you want and point fingers and criticize. There's a reason that the top clubs are the same every year and a big reason is that they do not have parents like you involved.

The comments are not directed at ILD's/M's kid. It's been my experience that the kids aren't as intense as the parents say they are. It's ILD and ILM that are the intense ones. So, the comments are toward them. Everyone likes to win but the difference comes when winning at all costs becomes the goal for ILD and M, and not developing a good/very good player who then learns to work hard on her own becomes secondary. Poor ILM's kid...she will be considered a failure (by ILM) if she doesn't get that full-ride to U of Md. Must be something in that Cape water?

It's been my experience that the really successful programs do in fact have girls that are self-motivated and intense about training and getting better. I don't think they look at it as win at all costs as you say. I also don't think that the majority of the girls have the intention of playing at MD. Many see it as an opportunity to attend whatever school they want academically and that lacrosse can open doors for them. You can label people intense all you want. I agree there are some crazies, but the majority of parents are doing what their kids want.

With UMD taking 10 new recruits tops it would appear that there would not be a spot for every Maryland kid on the roster, for that matter if you added Hopkins, Loyola, towson, umbc, etc there still wouldn't be enough spots, and those schools will cost 5X what UMD cost

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you morons take your Integrity pissing match to the MD boards? We don't care.

ILD's Response: Hey, we beat all the Long Island teams this year. 14-4, 13-2, 16-1, 10-4 (20 minute game, that's the only reason it was close), 19-0, 18-3, and 12-1. It's a shame, we could really use some more competition. Our girls are bored. It's a shame that we are the only awesome team. Our girls work harder than everybody else though, so it figures. Gotta hand it to them, they really do outwork everybody else. I wish you all would work hard too. See ya at the fields!!!

What's so funny is that you're the only one worked up here. You seem the most intense lax dad on here these days.

There are many funny things about this thread. Probably the most funny is you looking up scores (or remembering them?) of 13 year old girl lacrosse games.

You need to get off the computer and get outside and monitor the bounce back. There is too much on the line to be wasting time with us haters ILD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the rest of the world gives a crap about whether the 2nd string YJ goalie is moving to TG or Liberty.....

It's the first string TG goalie moving to YJ, but if you don't care about Long Island lacrosse, don't read the "Northeast Lacrosse" forums - stay on your own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the rest of the world gives a crap about whether the 2nd string YJ goalie is moving to TG or Liberty.....

It's the first string TG goalie moving to YJ, but if you don't care about Long Island lacrosse, don't read the "Northeast Lacrosse" forums - stay on your own.

Considering MD owns LI at this age, we can post where we want.:)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the rest of the world gives a crap about whether the 2nd string YJ goalie is moving to TG or Liberty.....

It's the first string TG goalie moving to YJ, but if you don't care about Long Island lacrosse, don't read the "Northeast Lacrosse" forums - stay on your own.

Considering MD owns LI at this age, we can post where we want.:)

Boom! Yes we do, and it sweet

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

I get that you are disappointed that things didn't work out the way you planned. Perhaps it's time to move along. Just for the record the coaching has been the same for the last few years. Some years have been more successful than others but we'll keep the coaches we have. Thanks for your concern and enjoy the upcoming weekend!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

I get that you are disappointed that things didn't work out the way you planned. Perhaps it's time to move along. Just for the record the coaching has been the same for the last few years. Some years have been more successful than others but we'll keep the coaches we have. Thanks for your concern and enjoy the upcoming weekend!

Sorry my mistake, I was under the impression that the actual head coach barely showed this past season . She actually knows the game well and is a nice person . Seemed like something was different from the summer prior . Can guarantee you the coaching will not be the same next summer CR is no fool and does not like losing . The good news is when she takes over she does not care about the friends and family plan so your starting line up will change .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

I get that you are disappointed that things didn't work out the way you planned. Perhaps it's time to move along. Just for the record the coaching has been the same for the last few years. Some years have been more successful than others but we'll keep the coaches we have. Thanks for your concern and enjoy the upcoming weekend!

Sorry my mistake, I was under the impression that the actual head coach barely showed this past season . She actually knows the game well and is a nice person . Seemed like something was different from the summer prior . Can guarantee you the coaching will not be the same next summer CR is no fool and does not like losing . The good news is when she takes over she does not care about the friends and family plan so your starting line up will change .

The YJ team didn't really change last summer which was the problem. The MD teams got better and YJ was the same. Still one of the best teams at this grade. Sure they will come back strong this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

I get that you are disappointed that things didn't work out the way you planned. Perhaps it's time to move along. Just for the record the coaching has been the same for the last few years. Some years have been more successful than others but we'll keep the coaches we have. Thanks for your concern and enjoy the upcoming weekend!

Sorry my mistake, I was under the impression that the actual head coach barely showed this past season . She actually knows the game well and is a nice person . Seemed like something was different from the summer prior . Can guarantee you the coaching will not be the same next summer CR is no fool and does not like losing . The good news is when she takes over she does not care about the friends and family plan so your starting line up will change .

B parent wishful thinking! I would expect a few new outside girls for targeted positions and no change to coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

I get that you are disappointed that things didn't work out the way you planned. Perhaps it's time to move along. Just for the record the coaching has been the same for the last few years. Some years have been more successful than others but we'll keep the coaches we have. Thanks for your concern and enjoy the upcoming weekend!

Sorry my mistake, I was under the impression that the actual head coach barely showed this past season . She actually knows the game well and is a nice person . Seemed like something was different from the summer prior . Can guarantee you the coaching will not be the same next summer CR is no fool and does not like losing . The good news is when she takes over she does not care about the friends and family plan so your starting line up will change .

The YJ team didn't really change last summer which was the problem. The MD teams got better and YJ was the same. Still one of the best teams at this grade. Sure they will come back strong this year.

Win the draw and rule the world. Summer before last all the games with M&D were going back and forth with the wins, many to OT and 1 goal games. They all had even split of draw controls. Last year they won 90 percent of the draws. The one and only thing YJ needs to work on is draw control. Maybe spend a good amount of time with the draw girls and the girls on the circle to actually have a game plan. Offense, defense, goaltending are certainly not the issue.

Look at size of stony Brook girls attack. 5' to 5'4". Get over yourself. Smaller girls on attack have advantages just like taller ones. Don't compare it to boys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

I get that you are disappointed that things didn't work out the way you planned. Perhaps it's time to move along. Just for the record the coaching has been the same for the last few years. Some years have been more successful than others but we'll keep the coaches we have. Thanks for your concern and enjoy the upcoming weekend!

Sorry my mistake, I was under the impression that the actual head coach barely showed this past season . She actually knows the game well and is a nice person . Seemed like something was different from the summer prior . Can guarantee you the coaching will not be the same next summer CR is no fool and does not like losing . The good news is when she takes over she does not care about the friends and family plan so your starting line up will change .

The YJ team didn't really change last summer which was the problem. The MD teams got better and YJ was the same. Still one of the best teams at this grade. Sure they will come back strong this year.

Win the draw and rule the world. Summer before last all the games with M&D were going back and forth with the wins, many to OT and 1 goal games. They all had even split of draw controls. Last year they won 90 percent of the draws. The one and only thing YJ needs to work on is draw control. Maybe spend a good amount of time with the draw girls and the girls on the circle to actually have a game plan. Offense, defense, goaltending are certainly not the issue.

Would be 99% sure CR has a solution coming and the circle won't be an issue. Add a few of the top B players and this team will be humming along nicely next summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

I get that you are disappointed that things didn't work out the way you planned. Perhaps it's time to move along. Just for the record the coaching has been the same for the last few years. Some years have been more successful than others but we'll keep the coaches we have. Thanks for your concern and enjoy the upcoming weekend!

Sorry my mistake, I was under the impression that the actual head coach barely showed this past season . She actually knows the game well and is a nice person . Seemed like something was different from the summer prior . Can guarantee you the coaching will not be the same next summer CR is no fool and does not like losing . The good news is when she takes over she does not care about the friends and family plan so your starting line up will change .

The YJ team didn't really change last summer which was the problem. The MD teams got better and YJ was the same. Still one of the best teams at this grade. Sure they will come back strong this year.

Win the draw and rule the world. Summer before last all the games with M&D were going back and forth with the wins, many to OT and 1 goal games. They all had even split of draw controls. Last year they won 90 percent of the draws. The one and only thing YJ needs to work on is draw control. Maybe spend a good amount of time with the draw girls and the girls on the circle to actually have a game plan. Offense, defense, goaltending are certainly not the issue.

Ding ! Ding! Ding! ...... Give that man a prize ! Spot on assessment. In any game that draws were 50% YJ were either winning or tied. In games where they did not do well at the draw they did not have any thing left in the tank from constantly playing defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at size of stony Brook girls attack. 5' to 5'4". Get over yourself. Smaller girls on attack have advantages just like taller ones. Don't compare it to boys

Who said anything about size? Are we going to go there again??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

I get that you are disappointed that things didn't work out the way you planned. Perhaps it's time to move along. Just for the record the coaching has been the same for the last few years. Some years have been more successful than others but we'll keep the coaches we have. Thanks for your concern and enjoy the upcoming weekend!

Sorry my mistake, I was under the impression that the actual head coach barely showed this past season . She actually knows the game well and is a nice person . Seemed like something was different from the summer prior . Can guarantee you the coaching will not be the same next summer CR is no fool and does not like losing . The good news is when she takes over she does not care about the friends and family plan so your starting line up will change .

The YJ team didn't really change last summer which was the problem. The MD teams got better and YJ was the same. Still one of the best teams at this grade. Sure they will come back strong this year.

Win the draw and rule the world. Summer before last all the games with M&D were going back and forth with the wins, many to OT and 1 goal games. They all had even split of draw controls. Last year they won 90 percent of the draws. The one and only thing YJ needs to work on is draw control. Maybe spend a good amount of time with the draw girls and the girls on the circle to actually have a game plan. Offense, defense, goaltending are certainly not the issue.

Would be 99% sure CR has a solution coming and the circle won't be an issue. Add a few of the top B players and this team will be humming along nicely next summer.

They will pull up one B team kid to keep dangling the carrot. Then the contract to bring in a group from TG will kick in . A couple of girls will get bumped down to B team and the roster will have 25+ players seen t happen before. Wouldn't want my daughter to be on the lower half of the roster...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it hard to believe Elevates blue girls were at Liberty tryouts. All the girls seem extremely happy at elevate. I know we are.

Its VERY true. There were a lot of BLUE and RED Elevate kids at Liberty and TG tryouts from Elevate. The Elevate kids must be happy at their beach parties and pizza gatherings but parents are smartening up on where they are spending dollars! Its more than pizza and Elevate awards dinners. Would you rather be trained by the Liberty Director (a former D1 girls coach and a woman who takes her HS team to the top of LI every year) or Elevate for a guy who never played girls lax and coaches a low level HS team and his daughter who only has HS playing experience? Where would you want to spend your $s? Parents are waking up. Join the club.

We too left Elevate due the daughter director. When you compare the people running these programs and teaching my kid there is NO comparison. I would much rather have my kid at Liberty with a director who has a top resume in all of girls lacrosse rather than a girl who played HS lax on Long Island. Its an investment in my kid and I want somebody with real experience teaching her.

Why is M&D 2021 so strong. Not sure if they lost a game this past summer. I'm assuming they will only get stronger?

Thanks m&d parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is M&D 2021 so strong. Not sure if they lost a game this past summer. I'm assuming they will only get stronger?

LOL. Can't make this stuff up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at size of stony Brook girls attack. 5' to 5'4". Get over yourself. Smaller girls on attack have advantages just like taller ones. Don't compare it to boys

You left out Vandyke and Murphy who are like 6' and 5'7" respectively, lol.Good players come in all shapes and sizes but would not be surprised to see Mitchel and little Ohmiller 5'7" ish playing some attack this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is M&D 2021 so strong. Not sure if they lost a game this past summer. I'm assuming they will only get stronger?

How do DI teams fill out their rosters when there are only 22 M&D Black kids each year? I mean if you gave each team 1 you would still be 80 short. The math does not add up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks m&d parent.

No M&D parent said that. You guys know people stir up crap on here. Usually Heros parents.

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why is M&D 2021 so strong. Not sure if they lost a game this past summer. I'm assuming they will only get stronger?

How do DI teams fill out their rosters when there are only 22 M&D Black kids each year? I mean if you gave each team 1 you would still be 80 short. The math does not add up.

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The epitome of classless ignorance. ^^^^^

I don't know their roster that well. I do know they coach to a system with quality coaches. When CR was pitching me about the program he said each team is taught early on to put in place two M&D offensive and defensive patterns, a ride and a clear. I do know they also picked off the top player from Redshirts before that program imploded and also their big, stud goalie came from MD United. They also picked up one of Skywalkers best players last year, but that was a bad fit for some reason. They stuck her on D and now that girl is back at SW. I am sure there are other tales on top talent joining as well. They are indeed a force to be reckoned with with evidently only a couple C changes from this Summer. It will be interesting to see if M&D parent confirms what I was told by CR.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is M&D 2021 so strong. Not sure if they lost a game this past summer. I'm assuming they will only get stronger?

How do DI teams fill out their rosters when there are only 22 M&D Black kids each year? I mean if you gave each team 1 you would still be 80 short. The math does not add up.

They use filler. There are only so many girls that can go hard 5 days a week. The rest are filler.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know their roster that well. I do know they coach to a system with quality coaches. When CR was pitching me about the program he said each team is taught early on to put in place two M&D offensive and defensive patterns, a ride and a clear. I do know they also picked off the top player from Redshirts before that program imploded and also their big, stud goalie came from MD United. They also picked up one of Skywalkers best players last year, but that was a bad fit for some reason. They stuck her on D and now that girl is back at SW. I am sure there are other tales on top talent joining as well. They are indeed a force to be reckoned with with evidently only a couple C changes from this Summer. It will be interesting to see if M&D parent confirms what I was told by CR.

Don't worry. "M&D parent" will arrive shortly to answer all your questions.

You mean M&D Goalie Parent. Wow, nothing like making it so obvious.

Well....my gender fluid "boys" team can whip your M & D team every day of week. So there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give YJ some credit , they had train wreck daddy coach for the summer . Obviously a big drop off from the summer before but if your coach is clueless , is a daddy coach homer , is too small to see over 12 y.o. And is only there to attempt to showcase his kid what did you expect. You parents let it happen so you can be on blue , you were too weak to stand up for what you deserve so you got what u deserve .

Just because it is getting old watching someone with an axe to grind with this coach I am compelled to respond. So we get YOU have a problem, was your kid sent away from team? kid rode the bench? whatever.... By large and far most everyone really likes the guy and very much appreciates the time and energy he puts into the team and is very comfortable with his coaching ability. We love our Summer coach and this guy fills in all rest of the gaps. His daughter is very good and would see the field no matter who is coaching. I am sure he recognizes you for what you are, but just so he can see the other side of what he does, I would like to take this opportunity and say thanks KC!

Does this KC coach a high school team? What's this other posters problem?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well....my gender fluid "boys" team can whip your M & D team every day of week. So there.

Seriously, having been involved in a number of youth sports I have come to two conclusions:

1. Parents in general are huge pains in the ***
2. Nowhere are parents worse than in girls lacrosse.

Seriously, having been involved in a number of youth sports I have come to two conclusions:

1. Parents in general are huge pains in the ***
2. Nowhere are parents worse than in girls lacrosse.

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I have never agreed more with anything on this board, especially number 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seriously, having been involved in a number of youth sports I have come to two conclusions:

1. Parents in general are huge pains in the ***
2. Nowhere are parents worse than in girls lacrosse.

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I have never agreed more with anything on this board, especially number 2

100% percent agree with 2. I quit coaching because of ILD/M parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seriously, having been involved in a number of youth sports I have come to two conclusions:

1. Parents in general are huge pains in the ***
2. Nowhere are parents worse than in girls lacrosse.

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I have never agreed more with anything on this board, especially number 2

100% percent agree with 2. I quit coaching because of ILD/M parents.

And the worst parents of all? Parent Coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seriously, having been involved in a number of youth sports I have come to two conclusions:

1. Parents in general are huge pains in the ***
2. Nowhere are parents worse than in girls lacrosse.

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I have never agreed more with anything on this board, especially number 2

Never seen the hockey crowd I'm assuming. But girl's lax a close second.

Any major changes for the TG 2021 black team? You lost 7 girls but how many we're moved down also?

KC Coached the Suffolk Community College Womens Lax team for a couple of years!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any major changes for the TG 2021 black team? You lost 7 girls but how many we're moved down also?

5 or 6 moved up, not sure how many moved down. Of the players moved up, some were among the most selfish players on Purple. Team definitely took a turn for the worse. When the white team collapses the purple team will have 29 or more girls. Smith's can't deny a paycheck, Good luck in that program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any major changes for the TG 2021 black team? You lost 7 girls but how many we're moved down also?

5 or 6 moved up, not sure how many moved down. Of the players moved up, some were among the most selfish players on Purple. Team definitely took a turn for the worse. When the white team collapses the purple team will have 29 or more girls. Smith's can't deny a paycheck, Good luck in that program.

That's what it's all about. Get it to ??? and get out of the way. Team concept is out the window at this point.

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

Not going to happen, LI girls are not in the same league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any major changes for the TG 2021 black team? You lost 7 girls but how many we're moved down also?

5 or 6 moved up, not sure how many moved down. Of the players moved up, some were among the most selfish players on Purple. Team definitely took a turn for the worse. When the white team collapses the purple team will have 29 or more girls. Smith's can't deny a paycheck, Good luck in that program.

Sorry your daughter was a bench warmer and was unable to get her stick on the ball. Don't be so mad, just work harder!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

Not going to happen, LI girls are not in the same league

ILD is back!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

First off, where do you see any arrogance from M&D parents on here? Secondly, there are no holdbacks on M&D 2021.

I think maybe the poster has had a few too many pops tonight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

M&D parents have always been great on the sidelines and on here. Seems like someone is trying to create trouble for them. I'm not buying it and neither should you.
A YJ Parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

Not older they just seek out the physically stronger and more athletic players. Seek out size and speed and develop the talent. They only appear older when standing next to YJ players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

M&D parents have always been great on the sidelines and on here. Seems like someone is trying to create trouble for them. I'm not buying it and neither should you.
A YJ Parent

So what we have here is an M&D parent pretending to be a YJ parent. And he is attempting to persuade us that the comment he is commenting on is a Heros parent pretending to be an M&D parent.

Need a scorecard!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

M&D parents have always been great on the sidelines and on here. Seems like someone is trying to create trouble for them. I'm not buying it and neither should you.
A YJ Parent

So what we have here is an M&D parent pretending to be a YJ parent. And he is attempting to persuade us that the comment he is commenting on is a Heros parent pretending to be an M&D parent.

Need a scorecard!

What's funny is that people that aren't M&D or YJ parents don't realize that the games and sidelines have always been very respectful between these two teams. Also they don't realize that many of the girls know each other from the Towson camp last summer and many are friends on social media. We certainly respect YJ and I assume the feeling is mutual. So whatever Heros, TG, etc parent that is trying to stir the pot, keep it up. It is comical to us.

An M&D Parent

Classic. We do follow the insightful analysis. Now can you please help us understand what HRC was doing with 13 blackberrys, a private server, and a hammer while not knowing what (C) meant on her emails??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

M&D parents have always been great on the sidelines and on here. Seems like someone is trying to create trouble for them. I'm not buying it and neither should you.
A YJ Parent

So what we have here is an M&D parent pretending to be a YJ parent. And he is attempting to persuade us that the comment he is commenting on is a Heros parent pretending to be an M&D parent.

Need a scorecard!

What's funny is that people that aren't M&D or YJ parents don't realize that the games and sidelines have always been very respectful between these two teams. Also they don't realize that many of the girls know each other from the Towson camp last summer and many are friends on social media. We certainly respect YJ and I assume the feeling is mutual. So whatever Heros, TG, etc parent that is trying to stir the pot, keep it up. It is comical to us.

An M&D Parent

Nice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

M&D parents have always been great on the sidelines and on here. Seems like someone is trying to create trouble for them. I'm not buying it and neither should you.
A YJ Parent

So what we have here is an M&D parent pretending to be a YJ parent. And he is attempting to persuade us that the comment he is commenting on is a Heros parent pretending to be an M&D parent.

Need a scorecard!

What's funny is that people that aren't M&D or YJ parents don't realize that the games and sidelines have always been very respectful between these two teams. Also they don't realize that many of the girls know each other from the Towson camp last summer and many are friends on social media. We certainly respect YJ and I assume the feeling is mutual. So whatever Heros, TG, etc parent that is trying to stir the pot, keep it up. It is comical to us.

An M&D Parent

Nice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.

Please tell us who your daughter plays for...Glass houses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading the arrogance of the M&D HOLDBACK parents I really hope YJ gets the right players and kicks the living crap out of that team!! I know my daughter will not be on that team but if I am at that tournament I will go out of my way to cheer on YJ!!! Humility goes a long way you Jackasses!!!!

M&D parents have always been great on the sidelines and on here. Seems like someone is trying to create trouble for them. I'm not buying it and neither should you.
A YJ Parent

So what we have here is an M&D parent pretending to be a YJ parent. And he is attempting to persuade us that the comment he is commenting on is a Heros parent pretending to be an M&D parent.

Need a scorecard!

What's funny is that people that aren't M&D or YJ parents don't realize that the games and sidelines have always been very respectful between these two teams. Also they don't realize that many of the girls know each other from the Towson camp last summer and many are friends on social media. We certainly respect YJ and I assume the feeling is mutual. So whatever Heros, TG, etc parent that is trying to stir the pot, keep it up. It is comical to us.

An M&D Parent

Nice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.

Please tell us who your daughter plays for...Glass houses

The only team that matters is YOUR team. The rest of us are simply here for your amusement.

The fact is, the girls on your team will likely not face too many worthy opponents until the are hauling in huge salaries playing pro ball which should really be big time by the time 2021 rolls around.

Originally Posted by AnonymousNice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.[/quote

Please tell us who your daughter plays for...Glass houses

The only team that matters is YOUR team. The rest of us are simply here for your amusement.

The fact is, the girls on your team will likely not face too many worthy opponents until the are hauling in huge salaries playing pro ball which should really be big time by the time 2021 rolls around. [/quote]

ILD gonna get MAD!!! Gonna go all glass houses on y'all!!!

If your kid is not on TG why would you care what they do? does any one els think that sound creepy to them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by AnonymousNice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.

Please tell us who your daughter plays for...Glass houses[/quote

The only team that matters is YOUR team. The rest of us are simply here for your amusement.

The fact is, the girls on your team will likely not face too many worthy opponents until the are hauling in huge salaries playing pro ball which should really be big time by the time 2021 rolls around.

ILD gonna get MAD!!! Gonna go all glass houses on y'all!!![/quote]

Really don't understand all the hostility towards M&D. Please show me where any M&D parent was on here pounding their chest about anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by AnonymousNice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.

Please tell us who your daughter plays for...Glass houses

The only team that matters is YOUR team. The rest of us are simply here for your amusement.

The fact is, the girls on your team will likely not face too many worthy opponents until the are hauling in huge salaries playing pro ball which should really be big time by the time 2021 rolls around. [/quote

ILD gonna get MAD!!! Gonna go all glass houses on y'all!!!

Really don't understand all the hostility towards M&D. Please show me where any M&D parent was on here pounding their chest about anything.[/quote]

Quit whining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by AnonymousNice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.

Please tell us who your daughter plays for...Glass houses[/quote

The only team that matters is YOUR team. The rest of us are simply here for your amusement.

The fact is, the girls on your team will likely not face too many worthy opponents until the are hauling in huge salaries playing pro ball which should really be big time by the time 2021 rolls around.

ILD gonna get MAD!!! Gonna go all glass houses on y'all!!! [/quote]

Your the sick one. What a weird person you are!
Can't quite figure out who this ILD person is who you are trying to sling mud at, don't even care, but you are the one who looks insane with the posts.

Here is a contest for active members of this thread...
Make up a dumb tag name for this jack [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by AnonymousNice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.

Please tell us who your daughter plays for...Glass houses

The only team that matters is YOUR team. The rest of us are simply here for your amusement.

The fact is, the girls on your team will likely not face too many worthy opponents until the are hauling in huge salaries playing pro ball which should really be big time by the time 2021 rolls around. [/quote

ILD gonna get MAD!!! Gonna go all glass houses on y'all!!!

Your the sick one. What a weird person you are!
Can't quite figure out who this ILD person is who you are trying to sling mud at, don't even care, but you are the one who looks insane with the posts.

Here is a contest for active members of this thread...
Make up a dumb tag name for this jack [lacrosse].[/quote]

I disagree. I think he nails it with the ILD tag. And if you do not know "who this ILD person is" well, guess what?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by AnonymousNice composure ILD. There is hope for you yet.

Please tell us who your daughter plays for...Glass houses

The only team that matters is YOUR team. The rest of us are simply here for your amusement.

The fact is, the girls on your team will likely not face too many worthy opponents until the are hauling in huge salaries playing pro ball which should really be big time by the time 2021 rolls around. [/quote

ILD gonna get MAD!!! Gonna go all glass houses on y'all!!!

Your the sick one. What a weird person you are!
Can't quite figure out who this ILD person is who you are trying to sling mud at, don't even care, but you are the one who looks insane with the posts.

Here is a contest for active members of this thread...
Make up a dumb tag name for this jack [lacrosse].[/quote]

LOL! Somebody's thin skin is showing!!!

Like he said, Quit whining!

I am trying to figure out what ILD stands for....
Is it ?
Inside
Lacrosse
[lacrosse]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am trying to figure out what ILD stands for....
Is it ?
Inside
Lacrosse
[lacrosse]

I believe it is Intense Lax Dad, but you have captured the gist of it. We are all on the same page.

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Good job! Wind up ILD, sit back, and watch him go!

Skywalkers are primed to test M&D with added depth. This Fall won't be a true indicator as most teams will be short due to Soccer and field hockey. The Spring league will be the true indicator whether Skywalkers or Heros can take down the champs q

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Don't you know M&D parents aren't allowed to talk without juvenile imbeciles spouting nonsense at them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Don't you know M&D parents aren't allowed to talk without juvenile imbeciles spouting nonsense at them.

Quit whining!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Don't you know M&D parents aren't allowed to talk without juvenile imbeciles spouting nonsense at them.

OK. Go ahead. One more time. You have the floor. Tell us how hard your daughter works. And throw in some scores of games this summer. None of us will respond. We know you need to get it out there.

Sigh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am trying to figure out what ILD stands for....
Is it ?
Inside
Lacrosse
[lacrosse]

I believe it is Intense Lax Dad, but you have captured the gist of it. We are all on the same page.

Just to get the facts straight, I am the creator of the acronyms ILD and ILM. A week or so ago, I was in a "discussion" with an obvious ILD/M that was slamming Integrity. I could tell from the way they talked that they were a former Integrity parent who thinks the grass is greener at Md United. I tried in vain to explain to them that it is not. But, someone else on here labelled him/her as Intense Lax Dad and (given my military background, and laziness). All I did was shorten it. By the way, the former Integrity ILD has taken his daughter from Integrity to API Select. They have never won anything to speak of. They are moderately capable of beating a couple of local county rec teams, maybe. Good move, ILD. Your daughter, who is a decent player, will never be heard from again if she stays with API. The equivalent of a lacrosse black hole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Don't you know M&D parents aren't allowed to talk without juvenile imbeciles spouting nonsense at them.

YJ is jealous of M&D success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Don't you know M&D parents aren't allowed to talk without juvenile imbeciles spouting nonsense at them.

OK. Go ahead. One more time. You have the floor. Tell us how hard your daughter works. And throw in some scores of games this summer. None of us will respond. We know you need to get it out there.

Sigh.

That wasn't an M&D parent you jackass. See the OP's response above. That whole discussion started around Integrity. I don't know how M&D got lumped into it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Don't you know M&D parents aren't allowed to talk without juvenile imbeciles spouting nonsense at them.

OK. Go ahead. One more time. You have the floor. Tell us how hard your daughter works. And throw in some scores of games this summer. None of us will respond. We know you need to get it out there.

Sigh.

That wasn't an M&D parent you jackass. See the OP's response above. That whole discussion started around Integrity. I don't know how M&D got lumped into it.

M&D is the home of the World Champion ILD. All the rest are wannabes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the bickering.
Lets talk about the excitement brewing for a new season.
M&D is still the top club but who do people think will be the team that will finally bring them a loss.
I would especially like to hear from the M&D crowd.

Don't you know M&D parents aren't allowed to talk without juvenile imbeciles spouting nonsense at them.

OK. Go ahead. One more time. You have the floor. Tell us how hard your daughter works. And throw in some scores of games this summer. None of us will respond. We know you need to get it out there.

Sigh.

That wasn't an M&D parent you jackass. See the OP's response above. That whole discussion started around Integrity. I don't know how M&D got lumped into it.

You make ILD mad puny human! ILD angry! ILD smash!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I am trying to figure out what ILD stands for....
Is it ?
Inside
Lacrosse
[lacrosse]

I believe it is Intense Lax Dad, but you have captured the gist of it. We are all on the same page.

Just to get the facts straight, I am the creator of the acronyms ILD and ILM. A week or so ago, I was in a "discussion" with an obvious ILD/M that was slamming Integrity. I could tell from the way they talked that they were a former Integrity parent who thinks the grass is greener at Md United. I tried in vain to explain to them that it is not. But, someone else on here labelled him/her as Intense Lax Dad and (given my military background, and laziness). All I did was shorten it. By the way, the former Integrity ILD has taken his daughter from Integrity to API Select. They have never won anything to speak of. They are moderately capable of beating a couple of local county rec teams, maybe. Good move, ILD. Your daughter, who is a decent player, will never be heard from again if she stays with API. The equivalent of a lacrosse black hole. [/quote

I thought that was your wife's name or as you like to use LBH ,now get over yourself JA . See what I did there .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I am trying to figure out what ILD stands for....
Is it ?
Inside
Lacrosse
[lacrosse]

I believe it is Intense Lax Dad, but you have captured the gist of it. We are all on the same page.

Just to get the facts straight, I am the creator of the acronyms ILD and ILM. A week or so ago, I was in a "discussion" with an obvious ILD/M that was slamming Integrity. I could tell from the way they talked that they were a former Integrity parent who thinks the grass is greener at Md United. I tried in vain to explain to them that it is not. But, someone else on here labelled him/her as Intense Lax Dad and (given my military background, and laziness). All I did was shorten it. By the way, the former Integrity ILD has taken his daughter from Integrity to API Select. They have never won anything to speak of. They are moderately capable of beating a couple of local county rec teams, maybe. Good move, ILD. Your daughter, who is a decent player, will never be heard from again if she stays with API. The equivalent of a lacrosse black hole. [/quote

I thought that was your wife's name or as you like to use LBH ,now get over yourself JA . See what I did there .

Some of you people are completely reprehensible. It's such a shame that girls lacrosse parents live up to their terrible reputation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I am trying to figure out what ILD stands for....
Is it ?
Inside
Lacrosse
[lacrosse]

I believe it is Intense Lax Dad, but you have captured the gist of it. We are all on the same page.

Just to get the facts straight, I am the creator of the acronyms ILD and ILM. A week or so ago, I was in a "discussion" with an obvious ILD/M that was slamming Integrity. I could tell from the way they talked that they were a former Integrity parent who thinks the grass is greener at Md United. I tried in vain to explain to them that it is not. But, someone else on here labelled him/her as Intense Lax Dad and (given my military background, and laziness). All I did was shorten it. By the way, the former Integrity ILD has taken his daughter from Integrity to API Select. They have never won anything to speak of. They are moderately capable of beating a couple of local county rec teams, maybe. Good move, ILD. Your daughter, who is a decent player, will never be heard from again if she stays with API. The equivalent of a lacrosse black hole. [/quote

I thought that was your wife's name or as you like to use LBH ,now get over yourself JA . See what I did there .

Some of you people are completely reprehensible. It's such a shame that girls lacrosse parents live up to their terrible reputation.

Can we please just leave M&D dad alone? Pleeeease?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I am trying to figure out what ILD stands for....
Is it ?
Inside
Lacrosse
[lacrosse]

I believe it is Intense Lax Dad, but you have captured the gist of it. We are all on the same page.

Just to get the facts straight, I am the creator of the acronyms ILD and ILM. A week or so ago, I was in a "discussion" with an obvious ILD/M that was slamming Integrity. I could tell from the way they talked that they were a former Integrity parent who thinks the grass is greener at Md United. I tried in vain to explain to them that it is not. But, someone else on here labelled him/her as Intense Lax Dad and (given my military background, and laziness). All I did was shorten it. By the way, the former Integrity ILD has taken his daughter from Integrity to API Select. They have never won anything to speak of. They are moderately capable of beating a couple of local county rec teams, maybe. Good move, ILD. Your daughter, who is a decent player, will never be heard from again if she stays with API. The equivalent of a lacrosse black hole. [/quote

I thought that was your wife's name or as you like to use LBH ,now get over yourself JA . See what I did there .

Some of you people are completely reprehensible. It's such a shame that girls lacrosse parents live up to their terrible reputation.

Can we please just leave M&D dad alone? Pleeeease?

I'm not an M&D dad. I just think you people all suck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I am trying to figure out what ILD stands for....
Is it ?
Inside
Lacrosse
[lacrosse]

I believe it is Intense Lax Dad, but you have captured the gist of it. We are all on the same page.

Just to get the facts straight, I am the creator of the acronyms ILD and ILM. A week or so ago, I was in a "discussion" with an obvious ILD/M that was slamming Integrity. I could tell from the way they talked that they were a former Integrity parent who thinks the grass is greener at Md United. I tried in vain to explain to them that it is not. But, someone else on here labelled him/her as Intense Lax Dad and (given my military background, and laziness). All I did was shorten it. By the way, the former Integrity ILD has taken his daughter from Integrity to API Select. They have never won anything to speak of. They are moderately capable of beating a couple of local county rec teams, maybe. Good move, ILD. Your daughter, who is a decent player, will never be heard from again if she stays with API. The equivalent of a lacrosse black hole. [/quote

I thought that was your wife's name or as you like to use LBH ,now get over yourself JA . See what I did there .

Yes, we see what you did there (minus the use of proper punctuation). But now, consider yourself ferreted. Good luck at API.

[/quote]

I'm not an M&D dad. I just think you people all suck[/quote]

Potty mouth.

How many TG girls are rostered for YJ fall tournys? I guess we can assume 2 have been guaranteed a spot on the top team including the Nassau MVP.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many TG girls are rostered for YJ fall tournys? I guess we can assume 2 have been guaranteed a spot on the top team including the Nassau MVP.

All the MVPs you want, but M&D will still be #1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many TG girls are rostered for YJ fall tournys? I guess we can assume 2 have been guaranteed a spot on the top team including the Nassau MVP.

All the MVPs you want, but M&D will still be #1.

Is it true that by 9/10th grade when LI girls catch up to the older MD girls they no longer win and YJ reigns supreme? Don't hear much from the older M&D teams do you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many TG girls are rostered for YJ fall tournys? I guess we can assume 2 have been guaranteed a spot on the top team including the Nassau MVP.

All the MVPs you want, but M&D will still be #1.

Is it true that by 9/10th grade when LI girls catch up to the older MD girls they no longer win and YJ reigns supreme? Don't hear much from the older M&D teams do you?

You kind of have it right. By 10th grade, most of the M&D girls have started studying phys. ed. and have secured huge pro contracts so their motivation to participate in club games really starts to dwindle.

I have heard that the Maryland girls crush at the younger ages, but by the time we get to 10th graders it evens out. Is that true? If so why? My daughter spent the summer getting crushed by MD teams but the older girls from her club were and competitive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have heard that the Maryland girls crush at the younger ages, but by the time we get to 10th graders it evens out. Is that true? If so why? My daughter spent the summer getting crushed by MD teams but the older girls from her club were and competitive

It depends on the class. On LI, by 10th grade almost all of the top girls have all moved to YJ. In MD, the players are spread out between M&D, Skywalkers and Heros. Once that consolidation happens, YJ usually does surpass the MD teams where the talent is spread out. The concern for YJ parents is that your daughter could either be moved down or not get off the bench as those other kids transfer in.

LI club directors will tell you that you are losing to MD teams because the MD girls are older. While this may be true with the boys, it is very rare with the girls other than the small difference in school cutoff dates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many TG girls are rostered for YJ fall tournys? I guess we can assume 2 have been guaranteed a spot on the top team including the Nassau MVP.

MVP of what??

When did Skywalkers slip into the conversation of top teams? I must've missed something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When did Skywalkers slip into the conversation of top teams? I must've missed something.

When they beat YJ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When did Skywalkers slip into the conversation of top teams? I must've missed something.

I guess you slept through 2016. As soon as they beat Heros in the Spring Semi-Finals. As soon as they beat YJ at Lax for the Cure. When they had a 3 goal lead in the second half against M&D.

Mnd gets the best and early developed because the parents think they need to be on mnd. But by 9th and 10th grade it evens out because other teams have stuck together and played as a team so long that mnd becomes another MARYLAND team. Happens at every age group. Research it. Not a knock on their program but just stating facts. Go to 17-20s. Not dominate by any stretch.

How did the new rosters look after the first Fall practice?

Did Integrity 2021s fold?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Integrity 2021s fold?

No, Integrity did not fold. All the parents got together and decided that instead of playing fall ball they would instead purchase seasons tickets to M&Ds games. They figured that their girls would get much more out of watching a bunch of future pro athletes do their stuff than they would by playing on a dead end team.

The girls are psyched for the fall season!!! Go M&D!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mnd gets the best and early developed because the parents think they need to be on mnd. But by 9th and 10th grade it evens out because other teams have stuck together and played as a team so long that mnd becomes another MARYLAND team. Happens at every age group. Research it. Not a knock on their program but just stating facts. Go to 17-20s. Not dominate by any stretch.

Haven't most of the talented girls committed by 9-10th grade anyway. Is your goal to say you had the best 11th and 12th grade club team ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mnd gets the best and early developed because the parents think they need to be on mnd. But by 9th and 10th grade it evens out because other teams have stuck together and played as a team so long that mnd becomes another MARYLAND team. Happens at every age group. Research it. Not a knock on their program but just stating facts. Go to 17-20s. Not dominate by any stretch.

Haven't most of the talented girls committed by 9-10th grade anyway. Is your goal to say you had the best 11th and 12th grade club team ?

ILD,

Don't most girls in this area eventually commit (if that is what they want to do)? Is your goal to say you had the best 8th and 9th grade team?

Derp.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mnd gets the best and early developed because the parents think they need to be on mnd. But by 9th and 10th grade it evens out because other teams have stuck together and played as a team so long that mnd becomes another MARYLAND team. Happens at every age group. Research it. Not a knock on their program but just stating facts. Go to 17-20s. Not dominate by any stretch.

Haven't most of the talented girls committed by 9-10th grade anyway. Is your goal to say you had the best 11th and 12th grade club team ?

ILD,

Don't most girls in this area eventually commit (if that is what they want to do)? Is your goal to say you had the best 8th and 9th grade team?

Derp.

My point, derp...was who cares who / what team is winning those games in 11th /12th grade. The point of club lacrosse is mostly done by that point. High school team is the priority at that stage. Individual player development should be the goal early and if that means your daughter playing with / against the best on a team like M&D, then knocking it just sounds like sour grapes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mnd gets the best and early developed because the parents think they need to be on mnd. But by 9th and 10th grade it evens out because other teams have stuck together and played as a team so long that mnd becomes another MARYLAND team. Happens at every age group. Research it. Not a knock on their program but just stating facts. Go to 17-20s. Not dominate by any stretch.

Haven't most of the talented girls committed by 9-10th grade anyway. Is your goal to say you had the best 11th and 12th grade club team ?

ILD,

Don't most girls in this area eventually commit (if that is what they want to do)? Is your goal to say you had the best 8th and 9th grade team?

Derp.

My point, derp...was who cares who / what team is winning those games in 11th /12th grade. The point of club lacrosse is mostly done by that point. High school team is the priority at that stage. Individual player development should be the goal early and if that means your daughter playing with / against the best on a team like M&D, then knocking it just sounds like sour grapes.

No, your "point" is on the top of your head.

The most amusing thing about ILD is that you really do not know what you are talking about, but you say it with such self-confidence.

You don't really get it. And you likely never will.

Derp indeed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mnd gets the best and early developed because the parents think they need to be on mnd. But by 9th and 10th grade it evens out because other teams have stuck together and played as a team so long that mnd becomes another MARYLAND team. Happens at every age group. Research it. Not a knock on their program but just stating facts. Go to 17-20s. Not dominate by any stretch.

Haven't most of the talented girls committed by 9-10th grade anyway. Is your goal to say you had the best 11th and 12th grade club team ?

ILD,

Don't most girls in this area eventually commit (if that is what they want to do)? Is your goal to say you had the best 8th and 9th grade team?

Derp.

My point, derp...was who cares who / what team is winning those games in 11th /12th grade. The point of club lacrosse is mostly done by that point. High school team is the priority at that stage. Individual player development should be the goal early and if that means your daughter playing with / against the best on a team like M&D, then knocking it just sounds like sour grapes.

Here is one thing we can tell about you. This is your first rodeo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mnd gets the best and early developed because the parents think they need to be on mnd. But by 9th and 10th grade it evens out because other teams have stuck together and played as a team so long that mnd becomes another MARYLAND team. Happens at every age group. Research it. Not a knock on their program but just stating facts. Go to 17-20s. Not dominate by any stretch.

Haven't most of the talented girls committed by 9-10th grade anyway. Is your goal to say you had the best 11th and 12th grade club team ?

ILD,

Don't most girls in this area eventually commit (if that is what they want to do)? Is your goal to say you had the best 8th and 9th grade team?

Derp.

My point, derp...was who cares who / what team is winning those games in 11th /12th grade. The point of club lacrosse is mostly done by that point. High school team is the priority at that stage. Individual player development should be the goal early and if that means your daughter playing with / against the best on a team like M&D, then knocking it just sounds like sour grapes.

ILD,

Do you like cookies with your Kool-Aid?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mnd gets the best and early developed because the parents think they need to be on mnd. But by 9th and 10th grade it evens out because other teams have stuck together and played as a team so long that mnd becomes another MARYLAND team. Happens at every age group. Research it. Not a knock on their program but just stating facts. Go to 17-20s. Not dominate by any stretch.

Haven't most of the talented girls committed by 9-10th grade anyway. Is your goal to say you had the best 11th and 12th grade club team ?

ILD,

Don't most girls in this area eventually commit (if that is what they want to do)? Is your goal to say you had the best 8th and 9th grade team?

Derp.

My point, derp...was who cares who / what team is winning those games in 11th /12th grade. The point of club lacrosse is mostly done by that point. High school team is the priority at that stage. Individual player development should be the goal early and if that means your daughter playing with / against the best on a team like M&D, then knocking it just sounds like sour grapes.

Here is one thing we can tell about you. This is your first rodeo.

BINGO

How many new girls on YJ this year? Enough to make a difference?

ILD IS BACK!!!

Probing the competition!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many new girls on YJ this year? Enough to make a difference?

Tryouts are in 2 weeks , a dominant attacker and (2) solid 2 way midfielders will do the trick . Time will tell . Good luck to all Who try out. This is a great bunch of girls and families.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many new girls on YJ this year? Enough to make a difference?

Tryouts are in 2 weeks , a dominant attacker and (2) solid 2 way midfielders will do the trick . Time will tell . Good luck to all Who try out. This is a great bunch of girls and families.

Don't forget an actual assistant coach who is not a daddy and knows the sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many new girls on YJ this year? Enough to make a difference?

Tryouts are in 2 weeks , a dominant attacker and (2) solid 2 way midfielders will do the trick . Time will tell . Good luck to all Who try out. This is a great bunch of girls and families.

Don't forget an actual assistant coach who is not a daddy and knows the sport.

Thought defense was their problem, no need for defenders?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many new girls on YJ this year? Enough to make a difference?

Tryouts are in 2 weeks , a dominant attacker and (2) solid 2 way midfielders will do the trick . Time will tell . Good luck to all Who try out. This is a great bunch of girls and families.

Don't forget an actual assistant coach who is not a daddy and knows the sport.

Thought defense was their problem, no need for defenders?

There will be new additions to every position like there is every year. 5-6 would be a good guess this year considering 4 outsiders have already been offered a top spot.

How many changes to MD teams? New players per team? Heros 1, M&D 1, TLC 8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many new girls on YJ this year? Enough to make a difference?

Tryouts are in 2 weeks , a dominant attacker and (2) solid 2 way midfielders will do the trick . Time will tell . Good luck to all Who try out. This is a great bunch of girls and families.

Don't forget an actual assistant coach who is not a daddy and knows the sport.

Thought defense was their problem, no need for defenders?

There will be new additions to every position like there is every year. 5-6 would be a good guess this year considering 4 outsiders have already been offered a top spot.

Get ready for a roster of 26 and only the top 12 playing in meaningful games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many changes to MD teams? New players per team? Heros 1, M&D 1, TLC 8

Looks like you already know the answer

Life is full of choices,not happy,move on...nobody is holding a gun to your head. People will do what they want, worry about your own kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many new girls on YJ this year? Enough to make a difference?

Tryouts are in 2 weeks , a dominant attacker and (2) solid 2 way midfielders will do the trick . Time will tell . Good luck to all Who try out. This is a great bunch of girls and families.

Don't forget an actual assistant coach who is not a daddy and knows the sport.

Thought defense was their problem, no need for defenders?

There will be new additions to every position like there is every year. 5-6 would be a good guess this year considering 4 outsiders have already been offered a top spot.

Get ready for a roster of 26 and only the top 12 playing in meaningful games

Looking at the older YJA teams 25-26 seems to be about the norm? Does it really matter at that point? 2018 has a roster of 26 and would appear every kid is committed someplace and 2019 has a roster of 26. Would you really be better off on YJB with a roster of 24?

The schedule is out for Fall Fest. There are some pretty interesting early in the tournament. Bragging rights should be established very quickly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The schedule is out for Fall Fest. There are some pretty interesting early in the tournament. Bragging rights should be established very quickly.

Only problem with your theory is that you never get full rosters in the fall as so many girls play other sports. Anyone can win in the fall. Will see what happens come spring/summer when attendance is mandatory.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The schedule is out for Fall Fest. There are some pretty interesting early in the tournament. Bragging rights should be established very quickly.

Only problem with your theory is that you never get full rosters in the fall as so many girls play other sports. Anyone can win in the fall. Will see what happens come spring/summer when attendance is mandatory.

What is Fall Fest?

Can you share a link to the schedule?

I think the attitude has changed in terms of what takes precedent i.e. rec vs. club. It seems to have swung in favor of club as we are paying big money for 7-8 tournies a year. This wasn't necessarily the case 2-3 years ago. I would suspect most girls will be at the fall events rather than other sports. Just my two cents worth.

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you share a link to the schedule?

go to tourneymachine.com

Fall Fest and Mid-Atlantic schedules are posted there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is already incorrect, directors have already been contacted for 2021's by coaches and the fall run hasn't even started to gain steam.

Lets focus on Express and how it did not workout for a particular 2020 coach/parent so he is now on the sidelines for the 2021 Express team ,that is just terrible and now he is trying to put his kid on first line and take away from kids who deserve it and are right age .... PATHETIC !!!!!! JS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets focus on Express and how it did not workout for a particular 2020 coach/parent so he is now on the sidelines for the 2021 Express team ,that is just terrible and now he is trying to put his kid on first line and take away from kids who deserve it and are right age .... PATHETIC !!!!!! JS

Sorry, us MD parents have no idea who Express it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets focus on Express and how it did not workout for a particular 2020 coach/parent so he is now on the sidelines for the 2021 Express team ,that is just terrible and now he is trying to put his kid on first line and take away from kids who deserve it and are right age .... PATHETIC !!!!!! JS

Sorry, us MD parents have no idea who Express it.

And us LI parents have no idea (and don't care) what he or she is talking about.

Does Express still have a girls program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.

There are only 3 weekends this Fall that coaches can watch games, 11/5-6, 11/12-13 and 11/19-20.

This means that there are no coaches at Young Guns or Fall Fest.

There will be some at Chesapeake and Mid-Atlantic, but they aren't there for the 2021s. As I said earlier, that will start this summer. I know club directors blow smoke up folks asses, but colleges are just starting to got commits from 2020s. You think they have the time to watch 2021s too when they are still filling out 2019 and starting 2020?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

I'm going to guess you are from Redshirts. Ole George telling lies to parents again? Do you really think that 2022s are being recruited already? The first M&D 2020 girl committed yesterday. You think coaches have time to watch 7th graders this fall? Directors prey on the ignorance of consumers!!! Educate yourself on the process and who your daughter is playing for. It will save you heartache and money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.

2021 recruiting has already begun, it will only be for the blue chip girls, next year will be the top half of recruiting class and the following year will be the back half and the bulk of the hang back colleges. But make no mistake it has begun for a select few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.

Maybe you should read the recruiting calendar a little better...

(c) September 1 through November 30, 2016 [except for (1) through (3) below]:
(1) November 7-10:
(2) November 4-6, 11-13 and 18-20 (5 p.m. Friday through Sunday):
(3) November 23-25:

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.

Maybe you should read the recruiting calendar a little better...

(c) September 1 through November 30, 2016 [except for (1) through (3) below]:
(1) November 7-10:
(2) November 4-6, 11-13 and 18-20 (5 p.m. Friday through Sunday):
(3) November 23-25:

Contact period and evaluation period are two different things. Evaluation periods are when coaches can come watch girls play. The only evaluation periods are under (2) above. The rest are contact periods. So I state again. There will be no college coaches at Young Guns or Lax Fest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.

2021 recruiting has already begun, it will only be for the blue chip girls, next year will be the top half of recruiting class and the following year will be the back half and the bulk of the hang back colleges. But make no mistake it has begun for a select few.

Wow! Such pride! Such expertise! We stand in awe of you, your knowledge, and your daughter!

ILD LOVES recruiting time!!!

"But make no mistake it has begun for a select few."

LOL. This was my favorite line. Very dire, dark, and dramatic. I love it!!!

I think this has to be that ILD guy. His kid is a hard worker. Works harder than anybody else. Her and her whole team.

If ILD is who I think he is, this will mean something to him: Welcome to API, sir, the blackhole of club lax. Where's your payment?"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.

2021 recruiting has already begun, it will only be for the blue chip girls, next year will be the top half of recruiting class and the following year will be the back half and the bulk of the hang back colleges. But make no mistake it has begun for a select few.

You're funny. Please tell us what tournament these coaches were watching the 2021's play? It hasn't happened. Sure there are girls visiting schools on their own, that doesn't mean they are being "recruited". Get over yourself

If it's DELETED, his daughter is a good player but not Blue Chip. He was right in the hip pocket of the most venomous sideline poisoner I've ever seen. She is the Queen Snake and Md United will soon see her in full force if her kid doesn't get credit for every goal, get credit for every assist and get credit for every save, ground ball, turnover and draw. She thinks her kid is getting a full, 100% scholarship to the U of Md. He claimed that the assistant club director and some of the coaches didn't know anything about women's (girls) lacrosse because they never played women's lacrosse (they're men and they played other field sports in college). But, in his lacrosse days, he didn't ever play women's lacrosse either. Kind of makes his grievance moot, eh?

Nope. ILD is not API, not MD United etc. His daughter plays on the greatest youth lacrosse team ever assembled. Take a guess!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"But make no mistake it has begun for a select few."

LOL. This was my favorite line. Very dire, dark, and dramatic. I love it!!!

I think this has to be that ILD guy. His kid is a hard worker. Works harder than anybody else. Her and her whole team.

Ha ha ha...He's warning us to "make no mistake". I guess he's suggesting to us less-than-smart lax parents that his is one of the "select few". Ah...no she isn't. EA-6B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope. ILD is not API, not MD United etc. His daughter plays on the greatest youth lacrosse team ever assembled. Take a guess!!!

ULAX? They're pretty great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope. ILD is not API, not MD United etc. His daughter plays on the greatest youth lacrosse team ever assembled. Take a guess!!!

You're obviously referring to M&D, but I don't recall ever seeing an M&D parent on here bragging about anything. Which in actuality they could easily do. You seem to be the one obsessed with them.

"Obviously referring to M&D"

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, ILD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Obviously referring to M&D"

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, ILD.

Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Obviously referring to M&D"

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, ILD.

Call me ILD all you want. I'm not an M&D parent though.

The post about 2021 under way is correct. I know more than several girls that have been contacted by coaches through back channels already. They got looked at through tournaments, camps, clinics....and are under watch at upcoming tournaments. I am sure you will see coaches at Chesapeake, Mid Atlantic and Primetime. Believe whatever makes you feel comfortable I guess. Maybe you would be better to save your money this Fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Obviously referring to M&D"

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, ILD.

Call me ILD all you want. I'm not an M&D parent though.

William Shakespeare on lacrosse:

"The lady (or the dude in this case) doth protest too much, methinks."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Obviously referring to M&D"

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, ILD.

Call me ILD all you want. I'm not an M&D parent though.

Can't spell "I LieD" without ILD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Obviously referring to M&D"

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, ILD.

Call me ILD all you want. I'm not an M&D parent though.

Can't spell "I LieD" without ILD.

He can't be from Integrity, there is no one left. I am hearing they are not even playing in the spring league this year. The weak fell quick.

Back to ILD, I have my eyes on the other green team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.

Maybe you should read the recruiting calendar a little better...

(c) September 1 through November 30, 2016 [except for (1) through (3) below]:
(1) November 7-10:
(2) November 4-6, 11-13 and 18-20 (5 p.m. Friday through Sunday):
(3) November 23-25:

Contact period and evaluation period are two different things. Evaluation periods are when coaches can come watch girls play. The only evaluation periods are under (2) above. The rest are contact periods. So I state again. There will be no college coaches at Young Guns or Lax Fest.

During Contact Periods both evaluations and contact are allowed
Evaluation Periods are evaluation only, no contact allowed

Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean there will be coaches there, just that they are allowed to be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.[/quote

Maybe you should read the recruiting calendar a little better...

(c) September 1 through November 30, 2016 [except for (1) through (3) below]:
(1) November 7-10:
(2) November 4-6, 11-13 and 18-20 (5 p.m. Friday through Sunday):
(3) November 23-25:

Contact period and evaluation period are two different things. Evaluation periods are when coaches can come watch girls play. The only evaluation periods are under (2) above. The rest are contact periods. So I state again. There will be no college coaches at Young Guns or Lax Fest.

And I will state, again, that you are the one who misinformed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

This is incorrect. There is a showcase tournament 10/23 and the oldest grad year there will be 2021. They will also be on the 2022 sidelines, so don't kid yourself.

If you are talking about Prime Time Young Guns, there will not be any college coaches there. I don't know who is feeding you this information, but you are misinformed. College coaches are not allowed to recruit in October, so pretty curious how they are going to end up on the sidelines on 10/23. Maybe you should take a look at the recruiting calendar before you believe what your club director is telling you.[/quote

Maybe you should read the recruiting calendar a little better...

(c) September 1 through November 30, 2016 [except for (1) through (3) below]:
(1) November 7-10:
(2) November 4-6, 11-13 and 18-20 (5 p.m. Friday through Sunday):
(3) November 23-25:

Contact period and evaluation period are two different things. Evaluation periods are when coaches can come watch girls play. The only evaluation periods are under (2) above. The rest are contact periods. So I state again. There will be no college coaches at Young Guns or Lax Fest.

And I will state, again, that you are the one who misinformed.

I will state that you need to review Bylaw 13.17.6 of the compliance guidelines. It specifically states that evaluations are not allowed during contact periods.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will state that you need to review Bylaw 13.17.6 of the compliance guidelines. It specifically states that evaluations are not allowed during contact periods.

13.02.4.1 Contact Period. A contact period is that period of time when it is permissible for authorized athletics department staff members to make in-person, off-campus recruiting contacts and evaluations.

13.02.4.2 Evaluation Period. An evaluation period is that period of time when it is permissible for authorized athletics department staff members to be involved in off-campus activities designed to assess the academic qualifications and playing ability of prospective student-athletes. No in-person, off-campus recruiting contacts shall be made with the prospective student-athlete during an evaluation period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will state that you need to review Bylaw 13.17.6 of the compliance guidelines. It specifically states that evaluations are not allowed during contact periods.

13.02.4.1 Contact Period. A contact period is that period of time when it is permissible for authorized athletics department staff members to make in-person, off-campus recruiting contacts and evaluations.

13.02.4.2 Evaluation Period. An evaluation period is that period of time when it is permissible for authorized athletics department staff members to be involved in off-campus activities designed to assess the academic qualifications and playing ability of prospective student-athletes. No in-person, off-campus recruiting contacts shall be made with the prospective student-athlete during an evaluation period.

You are wrong. I don't know why you keep going at this. There are specific rules for Womens lacrosse about contact periods. For them to watch a game it has to be a school game or the event has to be located at the player's school.

13.1.7.3.1 Evaluations During Contact Periods�Women�s Lacrosse. Evaluations of live athletics
activities during a contact period shall be limited to: [D] (Adopted: 4/8/16 effective 9/1/16)
(a) Regularly scheduled high school, preparatory school and two-year college contests/tournaments and
practices; and
(b) Regular scholastic activities involving prospective students-athletes enrolled only at the institution
where the regular scholastic activities occur.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

Sorry to break this to you but college coaches will not be recruiting the class of 2021 this fall. They will be recruiting only the top 1-2 % of the class. Everyone else will have to wait . The top 1 or 2 studs and I mean complete players will get noticed this fall. The coaches will have them on their radar for next summer and by the end of the summer a couple in the entire age group will give verbals. Next fall will be important for the next level of athlete. This will only stay this way if the NCAA doesn't shut the whole thing down and make them wait till their junior year. If you think the sidelines at this falls tournaments will be three deep with coaches at 2021 games you will be disappointed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I concur. The girls are playing at this age for a shot at being recruited. Fall tournaments are much more important than recreational league games because of the number of colleges coaches attending these events.

College coaches aren't watching 2021's this fall. They will in the summer, but not this fall.

Sorry to break this to you but college coaches will not be recruiting the class of 2021 this fall. They will be recruiting only the top 1-2 % of the class. Everyone else will have to wait . The top 1 or 2 studs and I mean complete players will get noticed this fall. The coaches will have them on their radar for next summer and by the end of the summer a couple in the entire age group will give verbals. Next fall will be important for the next level of athlete. This will only stay this way if the NCAA doesn't shut the whole thing down and make them wait till their junior year. If you think the sidelines at this falls tournaments will be three deep with coaches at 2021 games you will be disappointed.

No-one said anything about a plethora of them at 2021 games, just that it is a recruiting event, or is marketed as one. You people will find anything to fight about.

No dog in the fight, but the general premise was girls in this age group are playing this fall for the shot of being recruited.
When someone trys to educate on here, they almost immediately get slammed.
Hate to break the news but if as a parent you are running around this fall with the hope your 2021 is going to catch the eye of a coach, you'd be sadly mistaken.
Right now the focus is on the top 2020's, notice the word top,
2021's your time will come, but in general if a coach happens to be on a sideline it's either for a general sense of a club team at the age or they've been tipped to a particular individual and are evaluating her only.
And if someone is promoting a tourney as a recruiting event in October, they're only hoping for exactly what some reactions on here are, let's go we'll gladly hand over our $$.
Evaluations this fall at club tournaments can only take place in November. And the evaluations will take place primarily for 2020's for the top schools and 2019's for those not in the top 20-40, or the top schools looking to fill out the 2019 recruiting class. [lacrosse] even 2018's are still being recruited. 2021's may have a shot at being identified but that's about it.
Relax, don't rush it, it will all happen soon enough. And hopefully for you it will all slow down. Your daughter right now has zero capacity to properly think thru and choose what a college choice and decision may be.

Here is what you may see in the 2021 sidelines. I know my daughter has caught the attention of several college coaches at the camps and clinics and they asked for fall ball schedules to come see her play. The coaches that show up on side line will be there looking at certain kids of interest. They will be scouting other kids on the team for sure as well. Not sure you will see the coaches scouting teams without a reason to be there, like you will for 2020, 2019.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is what you may see in the 2021 sidelines. I know my daughter has caught the attention of several college coaches at the camps and clinics and they asked for fall ball schedules to come see her play. The coaches that show up on side line will be there looking at certain kids of interest. They will be scouting other kids on the team for sure as well. Not sure you will see the coaches scouting teams without a reason to be there, like you will for 2020, 2019.

You must be so proud.

Sadly another example of the hype machine. Just so you know, coaches already know the schedules of each fall tourney. And they already know the girls and/or clubs they would potentially be interested in pulling from first pass. So they can pull the schedule just as easily as you can send it.
It's a standard line.
You know when you truly have interest? It's when the coach says: don't worry about sending me your schedule, she's on our radar, we already know where she will be and we will be watching. That's interest.
Send me your schedule? Ok, and I'll be sure to put it right next to the 1000 emails with everyone else's schedule.
Whomever told that to you 2021 Mom/Dad, you bought right in. The reality is that comment, while a rising 8th grader is at their camp or clinic, is only designed to get you to keep coming back and/or donating to the asst coach salary pool or the team trip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly another example of the hype machine. Just so you know, coaches already know the schedules of each fall tourney. And they already know the girls and/or clubs they would potentially be interested in pulling from first pass. So they can pull the schedule just as easily as you can send it.
It's a standard line.
You know when you truly have interest? It's when the coach says: don't worry about sending me your schedule, she's on our radar, we already know where she will be and we will be watching. That's interest.
Send me your schedule? Ok, and I'll be sure to put it right next to the 1000 emails with everyone else's schedule.
Whomever told that to you 2021 Mom/Dad, you bought right in. The reality is that comment, while a rising 8th grader is at their camp or clinic, is only designed to get you to keep coming back and/or donating to the asst coach salary pool or the team trip.

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Wow. You people are miserable. Stick your head in the sand, you only want to hear what you want. So here you go...... Coaches are not looking at any 2021s this year. They are not allowed, it is too soon. There will be not a one looking at any 2021s this fall. Does that cover it? Just cause your in denial does not mean you have any clue what you are talking about. Good luck regardless, try to stick to something you know about, clearly not the case here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly another example of the hype machine. Just so you know, coaches already know the schedules of each fall tourney. And they already know the girls and/or clubs they would potentially be interested in pulling from first pass. So they can pull the schedule just as easily as you can send it.
It's a standard line.
You know when you truly have interest? It's when the coach says: don't worry about sending me your schedule, she's on our radar, we already know where she will be and we will be watching. That's interest.
Send me your schedule? Ok, and I'll be sure to put it right next to the 1000 emails with everyone else's schedule.
Whomever told that to you 2021 Mom/Dad, you bought right in. The reality is that comment, while a rising 8th grader is at their camp or clinic, is only designed to get you to keep coming back and/or donating to the asst coach salary pool or the team trip.

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Wow. You people are miserable. Stick your head in the sand, you only want to hear what you want. So here you go...... Coaches are not looking at any 2021s this year. They are not allowed, it is too soon. There will be not a one looking at any 2021s this fall. Does that cover it? Just cause your in denial does not mean you have any clue what you are talking about. Good luck regardless, try to stick to something you know about, clearly not the case here.

Have you talked to any college coaches? They are just starting to offer 2020s in most cases. There is a reason that in the case of the Mid-Atlantic, the 2021's aren't at the same location with the 20's or the 19's. You think coaches are going to be hanging out at Owings Mills High School instead of watching the high school girls?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly another example of the hype machine. Just so you know, coaches already know the schedules of each fall tourney. And they already know the girls and/or clubs they would potentially be interested in pulling from first pass. So they can pull the schedule just as easily as you can send it.
It's a standard line.
You know when you truly have interest? It's when the coach says: don't worry about sending me your schedule, she's on our radar, we already know where she will be and we will be watching. That's interest.
Send me your schedule? Ok, and I'll be sure to put it right next to the 1000 emails with everyone else's schedule.
Whomever told that to you 2021 Mom/Dad, you bought right in. The reality is that comment, while a rising 8th grader is at their camp or clinic, is only designed to get you to keep coming back and/or donating to the asst coach salary pool or the team trip.

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Wow. You people are miserable. Stick your head in the sand, you only want to hear what you want. So here you go...... Coaches are not looking at any 2021s this year. They are not allowed, it is too soon. There will be not a one looking at any 2021s this fall. Does that cover it? Just cause your in denial does not mean you have any clue what you are talking about. Good luck regardless, try to stick to something you know about, clearly not the case here.

Have you talked to any college coaches? They are just starting to offer 2020s in most cases. There is a reason that in the case of the Mid-Atlantic, the 2021's aren't at the same location with the 20's or the 19's. You think coaches are going to be hanging out at Owings Mills High School instead of watching the high school girls?

Stick your head in the sand, you only want to hear what you want. So here you go...... Coaches are not looking at any 2021s this year. They are not allowed, it is too soon. There will be not a one looking at any 2021s this fall.

Stick your head in the sand, and hear what you only want to hear.
Ready?

There will be at least 200 girls in the 2021 class recruited and committed by the end of this fall. In fact the 2021's are so phenomenal that word on the street is they are bypassing the 2020 class just so they can start looking at the 2021's. College coaches don't care that they are still trying to fill out their 18,19 and 20 classes, 2021 is where it's at. And they'll be at tourneys in October. Feel better now?

I'm not miserable, I'm just trying to help. But you are in denial, and only want to hear that recruiting will happen in general for an 8th grade girl and class. Does it happen, sure. Sparingly and for a select number.
But if you honestly think that the 2021's are being evaluated as a whole this fall, you need help. And you're the poster child for why this nonsense has to stop and why the kids are too young to be recruited until Junior year - that and the fact the majority of parents are too delusional about the kids and immature about the process

Look in the mirror when you say the stick your head in the sand comment.
As much as the timelines have escalated, the mad rush is on right now for the 2020's.
Will identification happen for 2021's, sure that is possible. But there is a big difference between identification and recruitment.
I'll leave you with a tip for the day. When you receive an email asking your daughter to attend a camp this fall or winter, she is not being recruited. But I'm sure you'll go into the office telling anyone and everyone that your 8th grader is.
The goal of a 2021 right now should be on playing the game, getting constructive feedback on how to improve her game and working to improve her skills, and selectively attending the clinics or camps where either there may be some interest in the school or an opportunity where she may actually learn something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look in the mirror when you say the stick your head in the sand comment.
As much as the timelines have escalated, the mad rush is on right now for the 2020's.
Will identification happen for 2021's, sure that is possible. But there is a big difference between identification and recruitment.
I'll leave you with a tip for the day. When you receive an email asking your daughter to attend a camp this fall or winter, she is not being recruited. But I'm sure you'll go into the office telling anyone and everyone that your 8th grader is.
The goal of a 2021 right now should be on playing the game, getting constructive feedback on how to improve her game and working to improve her skills, and selectively attending the clinics or camps where either there may be some interest in the school or an opportunity where she may actually learn something.

While I agree w you on most parts the fact that the timeline moves younger each year does indicate that 2021 will be getting looked at and recruited more so this fall than ever before . Many of the top schools have identified their top 10 or so 2020 kids they want and will now be starting on their 2021 top 10 . They do not wait until they are completely done with any age group before they move on to the next .

I see the logic in the comments, but regardless of how early the timeline has shifted it's still too early for a 2021, in general.
The 2020 dominoes have yet to fall and until they do, that will be the focus. Sure the top programs have identified and reached out to the 2020's. Visits have happened, some offers have been made, but the rush will be on the 202'0's this fall into early summer when colleges narrow their focus and round their class. But before they move on to the 2021's, they'll focus on wave 2 of the 2020's first. [lacrosse] some of the top programs are still rounding out their 2019 class waiting on offers of acceptance.
You'll see a more active period in the spring and summer. The question is how escalated it will be? Do teams rush to get the cream of the crop 2021's before the deadline, or do they take a break and say stop the madness, let's settle down and see the effect of slowing the timeline down.
Most coaches will tell you they want the slowdown.
When you read some of the comments on here, it can leave a 2021 parent with the impression that they are behind, somehow missing out on opportunities others have, when the exact opposite is true.
But according to Mr. head in the sand, I don't know anything.
Notice I haven't said a word about my daughter, when I easily could. Don't need to, you can all form your own opinion of who knows what.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the logic in the comments, but regardless of how early the timeline has shifted it's still too early for a 2021, in general.
The 2020 dominoes have yet to fall and until they do, that will be the focus. Sure the top programs have identified and reached out to the 2020's. Visits have happened, some offers have been made, but the rush will be on the 202'0's this fall into early summer when colleges narrow their focus and round their class. But before they move on to the 2021's, they'll focus on wave 2 of the 2020's first. [lacrosse] some of the top programs are still rounding out their 2019 class waiting on offers of acceptance.
You'll see a more active period in the spring and summer. The question is how escalated it will be? Do teams rush to get the cream of the crop 2021's before the deadline, or do they take a break and say stop the madness, let's settle down and see the effect of slowing the timeline down.
Most coaches will tell you they want the slowdown.
When you read some of the comments on here, it can leave a 2021 parent with the impression that they are behind, somehow missing out on opportunities others have, when the exact opposite is true.
But according to Mr. head in the sand, I don't know anything.
Notice I haven't said a word about my daughter, when I easily could. Don't need to, you can all form your own opinion of who knows what.

Nicely stated. Seems logical to me, and very much in line with what I am hearing from friends with kids in the 2019, 2020 classes.

Is Bert taking over the top team next summer?

Nope, the queen bee is, the other coach got pregnant.

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

Please stop with the "ILD" comments. It wasn't that clever the first time and gets more annoying each time you write it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

Yes, all the best girls on LI were in attendance. Some used fictisous names and wore disguises. Girls in green wished to remain anynomous it had nothing to do with being a returning player. My guess is they will have enough talent for two top teams to compete in MD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

Please stop with the "ILD" comments. It wasn't that clever the first time and gets more annoying each time you write it.

Ok ILD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

Please stop with the "ILD" comments. It wasn't that clever the first time and gets more annoying each time you write it.

Ditto.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

Please stop with the "ILD" comments. It wasn't that clever the first time and gets more annoying each time you write it.

Ditto.

What's really ironic, but lost I guess on this poster, is that he/she is always on here criticizing others whom they deem "intense". Pot let me introduce you to the kettle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

No. We will not stop. And it was never intended to be clever.

ILD will be called out on every appearance. Deal with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

Please stop with the "ILD" comments. It wasn't that clever the first time and gets more annoying each time you write it.

Agreed. Trying to figure out who is the Most Annoying Anonymous Poster, that would be (M.A.A.P.) for all you acronym fans out there.
The nominees are......

This "ILD" person
jealous of "West Hampton" poster
"Thugball" weenie

Cast your votes......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

New goalie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

New goalie

YJ already had a great goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

New goalie

YJ already had a great goalie.

Now they have two good ones. DELETED. The team will have 2 very good goalies to go along with the 28 girls roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

Please stop with the "ILD" comments. It wasn't that clever the first time and gets more annoying each time you write it.

Agreed. Trying to figure out who is the Most Annoying Anonymous Poster, that would be (M.A.A.P.) for all you acronym fans out there.
The nominees are......

This "ILD" person
jealous of "West Hampton" poster
"Thugball" weenie

Cast your votes......

I vote Thugball weenie. ILD is boring because half the posters on here don't even know what it means. LOL!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

ILD is probing.

Please stop with the "ILD" comments. It wasn't that clever the first time and gets more annoying each time you write it.

Agreed. Trying to figure out who is the Most Annoying Anonymous Poster, that would be (M.A.A.P.) for all you acronym fans out there.
The nominees are......

This "ILD" person
jealous of "West Hampton" poster
"Thugball" weenie

Cast your votes......

M.A.A.P. ILD

might be the funniest edit reason to date. Thanks for the laugh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

New goalie

YJ already had a great goalie.

Agreed, now they have 2 great ones.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

might be the funniest edit reason to date. Thanks for the laugh

Ditto.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

HUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

The question was in reference to YJ 2021.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

Will be tough since YJ not attending that event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

HUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might want to recheck your schedule. Yellowjackets not playing in Fall Fest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

Will be tough since YJ not attending that event.

Will be even tougher since rosters don't come out until December.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

HUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might want to recheck your schedule. Yellowjackets not playing in Fall Fest.

1. I do not have a schedule.
2. I really do not care when two groups of little girls play lacrosse against each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

HUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might want to recheck your schedule. Yellowjackets not playing in Fall Fest.

1. I do not have a schedule.
2. I really do not care when two groups of little girls play lacrosse against each other.

So you're a self confessed troll and the reason no one can take anything written on this site seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

HUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might want to recheck your schedule. Yellowjackets not playing in Fall Fest.

This was a Skywalkers parent I assume. Skywalkers plays M&D 8am at Fall Fest. Guess they are feeling confident they will beat M&D

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did 2021 make any upgrades to compete against M&D upcoming season.

we will see in 2 weeks during Fall fest in Hagerstown, MD at 8:00 on Saturday.

HUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might want to recheck your schedule. Yellowjackets not playing in Fall Fest.

1. I do not have a schedule.
2. I really do not care when two groups of little girls play lacrosse against each other.

So you're a self confessed troll and the reason no one can take anything written on this site seriously.

From an overly intense lax dad's perspective? Yes is the answer.

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

Sure, if you are only concerned about the end goal of getting an offer from a college. Hate to break it to you, but some of the girls actually enjoy playing with their friends and it means something to them to win as a team. Your daughter must have so much fun only playing for that 6k scholarship.

Of course it means something, but unfortunately it means a lot more to the parents than it ever will for the kids. The kids make friends and like playing with others they like, win lose or draw. They are off to the next event, party or sleepover while you are on here 6 months later playing the remember that game game.
I actually liked your post until you had to try and take an uneducated shot, which just makes you sadly what the normal is on here, and shows your level of ignorance.
But since you went there, yes my daughter is a D1 committ, earlier than it should of been but it is what it is, and for much much more than the 6k you stated. Great school, great team, great academics, great money. I'm good but thank you for your concern. But if that's what you're hearing is the potential for your daughter, then it kinda tells you exactly where she's slotted. Nothing wrong with that, many parents will realize some will commit just for the spot or admissions support, with not a penny in sight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

Sure, if you are only concerned about the end goal of getting an offer from a college. Hate to break it to you, but some of the girls actually enjoy playing with their friends and it means something to them to win as a team. Your daughter must have so much fun only playing for that 6k scholarship.

Dude...It's NOT a contest to see who's kid can get the most scholarship money, except to the YJ parents. All of the rest of us normal parents realize that the end goal is to get financial assistance so your kid can attend the college of her choice while also playing lacrosse. There is no professional lacrosse league for women so college lacrosse is the end-game. Why are you people so hung up on which school your kid attends? No normal parent or player really cares where your kid goes. All you YJ blow-hards can stand of your loud mouth sidelines and puff out your hairy chests and boast about which kid is going to a "good" school and which kids are not. The rest of us will watch the game and cheer on our kid's team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

Sure, if you are only concerned about the end goal of getting an offer from a college. Hate to break it to you, but some of the girls actually enjoy playing with their friends and it means something to them to win as a team. Your daughter must have so much fun only playing for that 6k scholarship.

Yes the girls like playing with their friends and they want to win but the focus now switches to playing well in front of college coaches. The days of playing for a pink backpack or a shiny medal are over. Most of the tournaments now are showcases rather than playoff style tournaments. College coaches don't care if you win or lose. Nor do they care which program you play for. They are looking to see if your daughter is the right fit for their program. Next summer most of you 2021 parents will be hoping not to make playoffs so you can head home sooner than later. You're hoping you go 4-0 but lose in goal differential and head home happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

True to a small extent. The very top teams win, attract by far the most coaches and recruit the most players to better academic and athletic schools. Can a great player from the worst team in the nation get recruited? I guess so, but the path becomes exponentially easier with the quality of the club/team you play for, and yes the best clubs win games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

True to a small extent. The very top teams win, attract by far the most coaches and recruit the most players to better academic and athletic schools. Can a great player from the worst team in the nation get recruited? I guess so, but the path becomes exponentially easier with the quality of the club/team you play for, and yes the best clubs win games.

NICE. Also a lot more fun winning than losing .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

True to a small extent. The very top teams win, attract by far the most coaches and recruit the most players to better academic and athletic schools. Can a great player from the worst team in the nation get recruited? I guess so, but the path becomes exponentially easier with the quality of the club/team you play for, and yes the best clubs win games.

Everyone has a right to choose their own path, it is not always easy breaking into the roster on these top teams. Some kids may thrive as a big fish on a small team and are better off going that route. Top teams are not a good fit for everyone, but if you can be a productive member of an elite team, the path is much easier to recruitment.

NICE. Also a lot more fun winning than losing .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

True to a small extent. The very top teams win, attract by far the most coaches and recruit the most players to better academic and athletic schools. Can a great player from the worst team in the nation get recruited? I guess so, but the path becomes exponentially easier with the quality of the club/team you play for, and yes the best clubs win games.

NICE. Also a lot more fun winning than losing .

That's only true if all things are equal. There are a number of teams that win, but where the environment is toxic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

True to a small extent. The very top teams win, attract by far the most coaches and recruit the most players to better academic and athletic schools. Can a great player from the worst team in the nation get recruited? I guess so, but the path becomes exponentially easier with the quality of the club/team you play for, and yes the best clubs win games.

NICE. Also a lot more fun winning than losing .

That's only true if all things are equal. There are a number of teams that win, but where the environment is toxic.

Could you be more specific?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

True to a small extent. The very top teams win, attract by far the most coaches and recruit the most players to better academic and athletic schools. Can a great player from the worst team in the nation get recruited? I guess so, but the path becomes exponentially easier with the quality of the club/team you play for, and yes the best clubs win games.

NICE. Also a lot more fun winning than losing .

That's only true if all things are equal. There are a number of teams that win, but where the environment is toxic.

Toxicity is even more likely when a stud plays on a lesser team, the one man show wears heavily on the rest of the team and parents, even if the player makes an effort to include the rest. Elite teams are usually well balanced with great play coming from many players contributing. Any given team may be a great fit for one kid and a horrible fit for the next. The whole team contributing worked best for us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

True to a small extent. The very top teams win, attract by far the most coaches and recruit the most players to better academic and athletic schools. Can a great player from the worst team in the nation get recruited? I guess so, but the path becomes exponentially easier with the quality of the club/team you play for, and yes the best clubs win games.

NICE. Also a lot more fun winning than losing .

That's only true if all things are equal. There are a number of teams that win, but where the environment is toxic.

Could you be more specific?

Sure. Specifically if you have to ask for specifics, your daughter is probably on one of those teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor parents, you will all learn soon enough the team results don't mean anything except for your own cocktail party bragging. In the bigger picture and focus on individual player recruiting, really meaningless.

True to a small extent. The very top teams win, attract by far the most coaches and recruit the most players to better academic and athletic schools. Can a great player from the worst team in the nation get recruited? I guess so, but the path becomes exponentially easier with the quality of the club/team you play for, and yes the best clubs win games.

NICE. Also a lot more fun winning than losing .

That's only true if all things are equal. There are a number of teams that win, but where the environment is toxic.

Could you be more specific?

Sure. Specifically if you have to ask for specifics, your daughter is probably on one of those teams.

Here's a thought, you had a kid on the top team but she was dropped? You now walk around talking behind everyone's back and will tell anyone who will listen how toxic the top team is? Is that specific enough?

Here's a response. If I wanted to "walk around talking behind everyone's back" this would be the place to do it. In a dark corner of the internet on a forum where my name is "anonymous." Instead, you and your insecurities cannot handle the idea that somebody may simply be imparting a bit of gained wisdom and instead like a child you demand "specifics."

You may be role-playing for all I know, after all this is an anonymous forum. However, the insecure, overly-competitive, vicarious glory-seeking, and short-term self-satisfaction embracing people that I had in mind when I made the statement above regarding toxicity would have likely responded exactly how you did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's a response. If I wanted to "walk around talking behind everyone's back" this would be the place to do it. In a dark corner of the internet on a forum where my name is "anonymous." Instead, you and your insecurities cannot handle the idea that somebody may simply be imparting a bit of gained wisdom and instead like a child you demand "specifics."

You may be role-playing for all I know, after all this is an anonymous forum. However, the insecure, overly-competitive, vicarious glory-seeking, and short-term self-satisfaction embracing people that I had in mind when I made the statement above regarding toxicity would have likely responded exactly how you did.

And that ball is outta here!

Parents. Ugh.

How did the new and improved TLC do today against Stars?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the new and improved TLC do today against Stars?

WARNING: M&D Dad checking out the competition. Proceed with caution.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the new and improved TLC do today against Stars?

WARNING: M&D Dad checking out the competition. Proceed with caution.

Sorry to burst your bubble. M&D dads know what happened today as the game was going on next to ours and the parents were right next to us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the new and improved TLC do today against Stars?

WARNING: M&D Dad checking out the competition. Proceed with caution.

Sorry to burst your bubble. M&D dads know what happened today as the game was going on next to ours and the parents were right next to us.

As if that would stop you from asking the question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the new and improved TLC do today against Stars?

WARNING: M&D Dad checking out the competition. Proceed with caution.

Sorry to burst your bubble. M&D dads know what happened today as the game was going on next to ours and the parents were right next to us.

As if that would stop you from asking the question.

Who cares who is asking.......what were results of games/tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the new and improved TLC do today against Stars?

WARNING: M&D Dad checking out the competition. Proceed with caution.

Sorry to burst your bubble. M&D dads know what happened today as the game was going on next to ours and the parents were right next to us.

As if that would stop you from asking the question.

Who cares who is asking.......what were results of games/tournament?

Well obviously this guy cares very much about M&D as they make that very apparent.

Stars beat TLC yesterday without much trouble after it was close early. M&D beat Stars and it was never close. There weren't a lot of well known teams at Young Guns yesterday and scores weren't posted so not sure how the rest went.

Anyone care to comment on the Girls Lax Fall Clinic being held at the Syosset Sports Hub?
Quality Instructors?
Level of Talent?
worth the $$
We missed the first session which wraps up tomorrow, and are thinking about the second which starts in November..

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

I agree with you and I've been saying this for years. The director is a marketer, not a lax coach. She has somehow gotten colleges to believe her club/team/players are better than others when, in fact, they are very mediocre. One of her 2017 players is (mysteriously, somehow) listed as a Player to Watch in one of the national lax publications but the girl is barely okay at best. Hype over substance I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

I agree with you and I've been saying this for years. The director is a marketer, not a lax coach. She has somehow gotten colleges to believe her club/team/players are better than others when, in fact, they are very mediocre. One of her 2017 players is (mysteriously, somehow) listed as a Player to Watch in one of the national lax publications but the girl is barely okay at best. Hype over substance I guess.

You love bashing this club. what's up with that? Now you bash players from the club? Dude, get a life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

Unfortunately Style is a new program and is not properly place for this event. Going to be a long weekend. Great coaches and future for what they are trying to do, this weekend is about showing the girls what top level lacrosse looks like.

The guy is right. MD United never plays anyone in these tournaments which I believe most people realize. With that said, it's not all about winning but rather getting your kids noticed. The question I think that should be open for debate is:

Would you rather have your daughter's team duck the competition and win a tournament to pad their stats or play against tougher competition where the chances of losing are greater, but whose games more coaches might tend to watch?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So MD United is again not in the top bracket this weekend. How is it possible that they are never playing M&D, Skywalkers, Heros, etc in pool play? They basically get a free trip to the playoffs every time. Credit to C2 and whoever Style is for playing the top teams and not hiding week after week.

Unfortunately Style is a new program and is not properly place for this event. Going to be a long weekend. Great coaches and future for what they are trying to do, this weekend is about showing the girls what top level lacrosse looks like.

There is nothing wrong with challenging yourself. Where are they out of?

If Md United wins their bracket, they play the winner of the toughest bracket. Assuming that will be M&D, Md United will get a sense of where they currently stand. It looks like they put the strongest teams in this age group in one bracket. I would prefer that they spread the strong teams around so the weaker teams get challenged in pool play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Md United wins their bracket, they play the winner of the toughest bracket. Assuming that will be M&D, Md United will get a sense of where they currently stand. It looks like they put the strongest teams in this age group in one bracket. I would prefer that they spread the strong teams around so the weaker teams get challenged in pool play.

So you are saying that C2 and Style are better than MD United? MDU could have played M&D, Heros and Skywalkers if they were in that division instead of a bunch of B teams. It's the same every tournament with MDU

I don't think he is saying C2 and Style are better than Maryland United, but rather they are willing to play in a tougher division at the expense of winning record.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Md United wins their bracket, they play the winner of the toughest bracket. Assuming that will be M&D, Md United will get a sense of where they currently stand. It looks like they put the strongest teams in this age group in one bracket. I would prefer that they spread the strong teams around so the weaker teams get challenged in pool play.

So you are saying that C2 and Style are better than MD United? MDU could have played M&D, Heros and Skywalkers if they were in that division instead of a bunch of B teams. It's the same every tournament with MDU

Who cares what bracket a team plays in or what team wins championships? Just let the kids play, have fun, enjoy watching them, and cheer them on. Parents can be a PITA sometimes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think he is saying C2 and Style are better than Maryland United, but rather they are willing to play in a tougher division at the expense of winning record.

But also said they will see where they stand in playoffs..They could get a better sense playing all the better teams instead of whoever manages to win the division.

But they get to say they won their division and made the playoffs.

Doesn't Maryland and the vicinity have there own thread? Jump on that.
Hijacking the entire thread.

I'm tired of this MD United thread too. The organization is not worthy of this much free press. When they beat a top tier team then we can reevaluate their worthiness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't Maryland and the vicinity have there own thread? Jump on that.
Hijacking the entire thread.

Yeah, discussing who the backup goalie is on igloo is much more interesting. When a LI team beats a MD team at this age let us know.

This is not an "exclusive to LI" thread. It's titled 'Girls 2021'.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not an "exclusive to LI" thread. It's titled 'Girls 2021'.

Please be understanding. This is one of the few places that M&D Dad can come and market his 13 year old daughter's youth lacrosse team and have people understand what he is talking about. He only has a few years left of "glory" so let him spread his wings and fly while he still can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not an "exclusive to LI" thread. It's titled 'Girls 2021'.

Please be understanding. This is one of the few places that M&D Dad can come and market his 13 year old daughter's youth lacrosse team and have people understand what he is talking about. He only has a few years left of "glory" so let him spread his wings and fly while he still can.

There is a Maryland and vicinity forum on here. Why not use that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not an "exclusive to LI" thread. It's titled 'Girls 2021'.

Please be understanding. This is one of the few places that M&D Dad can come and market his 13 year old daughter's youth lacrosse team and have people understand what he is talking about. He only has a few years left of "glory" so let him spread his wings and fly while he still can.

Dude enough. The only person continually bringing up M&D on this thread is you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not an "exclusive to LI" thread. It's titled 'Girls 2021'.

Please be understanding. This is one of the few places that M&D Dad can come and market his 13 year old daughter's youth lacrosse team and have people understand what he is talking about. He only has a few years left of "glory" so let him spread his wings and fly while he still can.

True. He is a little over zealous. I wonder how he's gonna feel when Little Superstar wants to go to a DIII school? I personally would have had no problem if my kid wanted to go DIII, but I have a feeling this guy would explode.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not an "exclusive to LI" thread. It's titled 'Girls 2021'.

Please be understanding. This is one of the few places that M&D Dad can come and market his 13 year old daughter's youth lacrosse team and have people understand what he is talking about. He only has a few years left of "glory" so let him spread his wings and fly while he still can.

There is a Maryland and vicinity forum on here. Why not use that?

Nah...

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

Read this in the New [lacrosse] Times?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

I literally said the same thing! How does a 13 yr old girl have the maturity level to make that decision. Barely reached puberty. This is a whole different kind of commitment. Parents. Please think before you jump just to say you have the youngest commit!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

Yes, every time a kid commits to Army or Navy you see this reaction on here. Whatever, congrats to her. The bigger picture here is that it is happening for this age group already. Despite all the people in denial saying it is not and that coaches are not looking at this age group, quite to opposite is true. I know more than several girls in 2021 with interest and offers already. Still shopping around which is good. If it is an offer from a dream school I can see committing. Otherwise it takes a long time to go visit all the coaches, campuses etc....to get a good feel for where these kids want to go to school and play. Use this as a barometer- If your daughter had a career ending injury the first day she stepped on campus and could never play lacrosse again, is she still at a school where she wants to be at? Anyway, we will likely see a few more commit this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

I literally said the same thing! How does a 13 yr old girl have the maturity level to make that decision. Barely reached puberty. This is a whole different kind of commitment. Parents. Please think before you jump just to say you have the youngest commit!

The older sister plays there. I am sure the family and the athlete have a good idea of what is involved in this decision.

Congratualtions to the kid and her family. Great school, great education, great program, great career opportunities.

What club does this player play for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

I literally said the same thing! How does a 13 yr old girl have the maturity level to make that decision. Barely reached puberty. This is a whole different kind of commitment. Parents. Please think before you jump just to say you have the youngest commit!

The older sister plays there. I am sure the family and the athlete have a good idea of what is involved in this decision.

oh okay. not trusted to drive a car. not trusted to vote and many other things, but mature enough to sign away years of her life to military service.

racing to me the first commit therefore had zero to do with it. okay got it.

I find it extremely hard, actually impossible, to believe an 8th grader has committed to Navy. There are little things like GPA and SAT scores to be taken into consideration which they have neither.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it extremely hard, actually impossible, to believe an 8th grader has committed to Navy. There are little things like GPA and SAT scores to be taken into consideration which they have neither.

Huh? So how do you think any of these 8th and 9th graders are committing? Obviously the kids have to get the requisite gpa and scores. It's a verbal agreement.

The kid is signing nothing away.

a) she can always de-commit. It happens every day.
b) she can pull out of the academy after sophomore year with no consequences. No money owed, no service required.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it extremely hard, actually impossible, to believe an 8th grader has committed to Navy. There are little things like GPA and SAT scores to be taken into consideration which they have neither.

I understand that you find it hard to believe, but that does not mean it is not true. The service academies do this just like everybody else. And the kid will either qualify to get in later through the application process or she won't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it extremely hard, actually impossible, to believe an 8th grader has committed to Navy. There are little things like GPA and SAT scores to be taken into consideration which they have neither.

It is a commitment, not a guarantee. Obviously there are those things to consider, and the athlete has to hold up their end of the bargain. This includes getting into the academy (grades, letter of rec. from US rep. or senator, and other things). It sets the bar high academically, but maybe it's a good thing and now the kid has academic goals to accomplish and they know what they have to do.

I think its a great goal for a kid to set even in 8th grade to want to attend one of the service academies. That said I can only think of 2 reasons parents would allow their 12-13 year old kid to commit 9 years of their life to the military.
1) They are insecure in their kids academic/athletic performance and feel she has peaked already and the more the coaches see of both the less likely they are to want her.( I get why some kids commit early if they get a great offer and feel that money may not be around in the future, obviously not the case here as the offer is always the same)
2)The parents are egocentric to the point of mental illness. Why not wait until your child has a little more life experience under their belt before making that decision. I know I will get crushed for this but add in the fact about some of the recent reports on how females are being treated and there are some real concerns.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think its a great goal for a kid to set even in 8th grade to want to attend one of the service academies. That said I can only think of 2 reasons parents would allow their 12-13 year old kid to commit 9 years of their life to the military.
1) They are insecure in their kids academic/athletic performance and feel she has peaked already and the more the coaches see of both the less likely they are to want her.( I get why some kids commit early if they get a great offer and feel that money may not be around in the future, obviously not the case here as the offer is always the same)
2)The parents are egocentric to the point of mental illness. Why not wait until your child has a little more life experience under their belt before making that decision. I know I will get crushed for this but add in the fact about some of the recent reports on how females are being treated and there are some real concerns.

Sounds like it would not be right for you or your daughter. There is no binding commitment to service until after year 2. And yes, we have a societal issue with how men treat women. However, the instances of such difficulties are far less at Service Academies than they are at colleges as a whole, especially large, alcohol-fueled, public universities.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

I literally said the same thing! How does a 13 yr old girl have the maturity level to make that decision. Barely reached puberty. This is a whole different kind of commitment. Parents. Please think before you jump just to say you have the youngest commit!

The older sister plays there. I am sure the family and the athlete have a good idea of what is involved in this decision.

The sister is in 10th grade. Verbal that's it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

I literally said the same thing! How does a 13 yr old girl have the maturity level to make that decision. Barely reached puberty. This is a whole different kind of commitment. Parents. Please think before you jump just to say you have the youngest commit!

The older sister plays there. I am sure the family and the athlete have a good idea of what is involved in this decision.

The sister is in 10th grade. Verbal that's it

Congratulations ! I don't get what all the commotion is over all she has gone is commit to the process . Good for her to set her goals high. What exactly is she missing out on ? She can play lacrosse for the fun of it. And if she decides against attending trust me they will be lining up to sign this terrific young lady. I will say it again CONGRATULATIONS !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

I literally said the same thing! How does a 13 yr old girl have the maturity level to make that decision. Barely reached puberty. This is a whole different kind of commitment. Parents. Please think before you jump just to say you have the youngest commit!

The older sister plays there. I am sure the family and the athlete have a good idea of what is involved in this decision.

The sister is in 10th grade. Verbal that's it

Congratulations ! I don't get what all the commotion is over all she has gone is commit to the process . Good for her to set her goals high. What exactly is she missing out on ? She can play lacrosse for the fun of it. And if she decides against attending trust me they will be lining up to sign this terrific young lady. I will say it again CONGRATULATIONS !

Congratulations to her and the family, let me try and help you with the commotion part, is she now the 1st 2021 commit? people will ask, did she really need to commit this early to navy or did the family just want to say they were the 1st to commit in the 2021 age group.

That all sounds good but she is not committing to give the academy a try for 2 years and then leave, she is committing to give the navy 9 years of her life.The question for me is why commit now , what advantage does that give her other than mommy and daddy feeding their egos.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That all sounds good but she is not committing to give the academy a try for 2 years and then leave, she is committing to give the navy 9 years of her life.The question for me is why commit now , what advantage does that give her other than mommy and daddy feeding their egos.

As stated above, it is obviously not for you or your daughter. I think that is an important thing to recognize in her and yourself. Nothing wrong with that at all. Now, simply move along and get out of this girl's way.

One can verbal and keep it quite or choose to announce it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That all sounds good but she is not committing to give the academy a try for 2 years and then leave, she is committing to give the navy 9 years of her life.The question for me is why commit now , what advantage does that give her other than mommy and daddy feeding their egos.

As stated above, it is obviously not for you or your daughter. I think that is an important thing to recognize in her and yourself. Nothing wrong with that at all. Now, simply move along and get out of this girl's way.

I am not in her way , egomaniacal parents are in her way . Do not know this kid or her parents but I know the type . Overbearing , over controlling , parents who have the kid training 24/7 . Good point by previous poster of it was not about the parents ego then why commit now , what's the advantage . If the kid is good enough and bright enough the academies will have room for her in 3 years and obviously money is not the issue .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That all sounds good but she is not committing to give the academy a try for 2 years and then leave, she is committing to give the navy 9 years of her life.The question for me is why commit now , what advantage does that give her other than mommy and daddy feeding their egos.

As stated above, it is obviously not for you or your daughter. I think that is an important thing to recognize in her and yourself. Nothing wrong with that at all. Now, simply move along and get out of this girl's way.

I am not in her way , egomaniacal parents are in her way . Do not know this kid or her parents but I know the type . Overbearing , over controlling , parents who have the kid training 24/7 . Good point by previous poster of it was not about the parents ego then why commit now , what's the advantage . If the kid is good enough and bright enough the academies will have room for her in 3 years and obviously money is not the issue .

Poor kid. Unfortunately for her she is headed for one of the best educations available in the country and for what it is worth, a school that according to FORBES produces the #2 highest paid mid career grads, and she has summer jobs lined up, unlimited leadership training in place, and her first job waiting for her with no interview or resume required.

Oh, and she gets paid while she is in school. And there is no charge for the world class education she will get. And for what it is worth, they have a solid lacrosse program coached by a Hall of Famer and the all time winningest lacrosse coach at any level of lacrosse---either gender.

I wish my parents had been "egomaniacs."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That all sounds good but she is not committing to give the academy a try for 2 years and then leave, she is committing to give the navy 9 years of her life.The question for me is why commit now , what advantage does that give her other than mommy and daddy feeding their egos.

As stated above, it is obviously not for you or your daughter. I think that is an important thing to recognize in her and yourself. Nothing wrong with that at all. Now, simply move along and get out of this girl's way.

I am not in her way , egomaniacal parents are in her way . Do not know this kid or her parents but I know the type . Overbearing , over controlling , parents who have the kid training 24/7 . Good point by previous poster of it was not about the parents ego then why commit now , what's the advantage . If the kid is good enough and bright enough the academies will have room for her in 3 years and obviously money is not the issue .

Poor kid. Unfortunately for her she is headed for one of the best educations available in the country and for what it is worth, a school that according to FORBES produces the #2 highest paid mid career grads, and she has summer jobs lined up, unlimited leadership training in place, and her first job waiting for her with no interview or resume required.

Oh, and she gets paid while she is in school. And there is no charge for the world class education she will get. And for what it is worth, they have a solid lacrosse program coached by a Hall of Famer and the all time winningest lacrosse coach at any level of lacrosse---either gender.

I wish my parents had been "egomaniacs."

Wow, since you put it like that, i think every kid should be fighting to get in there. on a serious note, i think the place is great and have a ton of respect for the midshipmen there. That was a pretty positive spin on it...reminds me of the navy commercials...its not just a job its an adventure, see the world...i get they will be officers...no place is 100% all of that.

As ex-navy, I will say that your statement that the is no charge for her education is laughable. You go spend 5 years deployed for minimal pay and come back and tell me it was free.

Minimal pay? Really? Do you know what you are talking about?

Naval Academy graduates rank #4 in the nation in early career pay ($72,900) and #7 in the nation in mid-career pay ($125,000).

Here are the rankings:

http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors

And thank you VERY much for your service, but yeah, there is no charge for tuition, room, board, books.

I'll add to the list of positives posted above about USNA. The kid will be serving her country. That's a good thing. Too bad more don't. Congrats to the kid and her family!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Minimal pay? Really? Do you know what you are talking about?

Naval Academy graduates rank #4 in the nation in early career pay ($72,900) and #7 in the nation in mid-career pay ($125,000).

Here are the rankings:

http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors

And thank you VERY much for your service, but yeah, there is no charge for tuition, room, board, books.

Think you missed the point. After graduation you spend 5 years minimum serving. During this time you get minimum pay. Academy grads are high in the starting salary rankings because they have at least 5 years experience when they get a civilian job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Minimal pay? Really? Do you know what you are talking about?

Naval Academy graduates rank #4 in the nation in early career pay ($72,900) and #7 in the nation in mid-career pay ($125,000).

Here are the rankings:

http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors

And thank you VERY much for your service, but yeah, there is no charge for tuition, room, board, books.

Think you missed the point. After graduation you spend 5 years minimum serving. During this time you get minimum pay. Academy grads are high in the starting salary rankings because they have at least 5 years experience when they get a civilian job.

You are incorrect. Upon graduation from the Naval Academy, not only is a student debt free, but their starting salary is about $57,600 with about $20,000 of that being a Housing Allowance which is federal tax free. So, they basically START on DAY 1 after graduation making over 60K a year. Hardly "minimum" pay.

Here is the link regarding starting salaries (and you will also note that this does not count bonus for nuclear and the chart shows the quick jump in salaries beyond the great starting pay):

https://www.usna.edu/Admissions/Career-Opportunities/Typical-Pay.php

Minimum pay? Uh, you really do not know what you are talking about. When they graduate they immediately make over fifty thousand. And it goes up pretty quickly after that. Do some research before you make misleading comments.

And by the way, the payscale rankings state that have USNA grads ranked #4 in early career pay defines early career pay as up to 5 years experience so it is a direct apples to apples comparison.

USNA grads make great money upon graduation, after 5 years, and throughout their careers either in or out of the Navy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That all sounds good but she is not committing to give the academy a try for 2 years and then leave, she is committing to give the navy 9 years of her life.The question for me is why commit now , what advantage does that give her other than mommy and daddy feeding their egos.

As stated above, it is obviously not for you or your daughter. I think that is an important thing to recognize in her and yourself. Nothing wrong with that at all. Now, simply move along and get out of this girl's way.

I am not in her way , egomaniacal parents are in her way . Do not know this kid or her parents but I know the type . Overbearing , over controlling , parents who have the kid training 24/7 . Good point by previous poster of it was not about the parents ego then why commit now , what's the advantage . If the kid is good enough and bright enough the academies will have room for her in 3 years and obviously money is not the issue .

Poor kid. Unfortunately for her she is headed for one of the best educations available in the country and for what it is worth, a school that according to FORBES produces the #2 highest paid mid career grads, and she has summer jobs lined up, unlimited leadership training in place, and her first job waiting for her with no interview or resume required.

Oh, and she gets paid while she is in school. And there is no charge for the world class education she will get. And for what it is worth, they have a solid lacrosse program coached by a Hall of Famer and the all time winningest lacrosse coach at any level of lacrosse---either gender.

I wish my parents had been "egomaniacs."

Okay mom now go take more of your meds , obviously not working .
First off no one said its not a great school. The point is it will still be a great school in 3 years .With your logic it would make sense for parents to commit kids straight out of the womb . Still have not answered the question of why not wait until the kid has a little life experience before committing 9 years of their life other than parents who are ego maniacs. Go read what you wrote and see if that seems like the thought process of a 12-13 year old or more like your thought process mom .Sounds more like your dream for your child's future , not hers .What is the rush to commit other than ego , not like the big scholarships go early .Ask the people who have gone to an academy most will tell you it's a great place to be from but a horrible place to be .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That all sounds good but she is not committing to give the academy a try for 2 years and then leave, she is committing to give the navy 9 years of her life.The question for me is why commit now , what advantage does that give her other than mommy and daddy feeding their egos.

As stated above, it is obviously not for you or your daughter. I think that is an important thing to recognize in her and yourself. Nothing wrong with that at all. Now, simply move along and get out of this girl's way.

I am not in her way , egomaniacal parents are in her way . Do not know this kid or her parents but I know the type . Overbearing , over controlling , parents who have the kid training 24/7 . Good point by previous poster of it was not about the parents ego then why commit now , what's the advantage . If the kid is good enough and bright enough the academies will have room for her in 3 years and obviously money is not the issue .

Poor kid. Unfortunately for her she is headed for one of the best educations available in the country and for what it is worth, a school that according to FORBES produces the #2 highest paid mid career grads, and she has summer jobs lined up, unlimited leadership training in place, and her first job waiting for her with no interview or resume required.

Oh, and she gets paid while she is in school. And there is no charge for the world class education she will get. And for what it is worth, they have a solid lacrosse program coached by a Hall of Famer and the all time winningest lacrosse coach at any level of lacrosse---either gender.

I wish my parents had been "egomaniacs."

Okay mom now go take more of your meds , obviously not working .
First off no one said its not a great school. The point is it will still be a great school in 3 years .With your logic it would make sense for parents to commit kids straight out of the womb . Still have not answered the question of why not wait until the kid has a little life experience before committing 9 years of their life other than parents who are ego maniacs. Go read what you wrote and see if that seems like the thought process of a 12-13 year old or more like your thought process mom .Sounds more like your dream for your child's future , not hers .What is the rush to commit other than ego , not like the big scholarships go early .Ask the people who have gone to an academy most will tell you it's a great place to be from but a horrible place to be .

Nope, I have nothing further to add now that the silly statement regarding "minimal pay" has been dispensed with I am willing to let the facts speak for themselves. I will merely add that having been a sponsor parent, you would find yourself in disagreement with nearly all of the Mids we have sponsored in regard to your statement that it is a horrible place to be. Of course, it does requires a lot of toughness and a great work ethic.

Good luck to you and your daughter!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Minimum pay? Uh, you really do not know what you are talking about. When they graduate they immediately make over fifty thousand. And it goes up pretty quickly after that. Do some research before you make misleading comments.

I don't need to do research. In case you couldn't tell by me saying that I am ex-Navy, I am an Academy graduate. I served 6 years as an officer on a ballistic missle submarine. If you wan't me to break down the hours that we worked under the conditions we worked in for the $52k I made I would be happy to have that conversation with you. The academy is a great place and does prepare you for life......But, it is also not your typical college experience and your service time is not going to be a cake walk. She's a lacrosse player, not David Robinson. I think people's points are, and mine included, is that choosing to attend a service academy in 8th grade is a very BIG DECISION and I doubt she necessarily knows what she is getting into. And, there is no reason to commit to a service academy in 8th grade. Look around. Find out what your options are. Grow up a little and maybe learn a little more about yourself and what you are looking for out of college. The decision could have been made a year from now if not more. It's all about the rush to say I'm committed and it doesn't benefit the player of the school really. There will be a very high rate of washout from the academies if they continue down this road.

Good for the young lady. I know several girls who have played lacrosse at navy and they would not have traded their experience for anything. It's up to each family to decide and not some old men on an Internet forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Minimum pay? Uh, you really do not know what you are talking about. When they graduate they immediately make over fifty thousand. And it goes up pretty quickly after that. Do some research before you make misleading comments.

I don't need to do research. In case you couldn't tell by me saying that I am ex-Navy, I am an Academy graduate. I served 6 years as an officer on a ballistic missle submarine. If you wan't me to break down the hours that we worked under the conditions we worked in for the $52k I made I would be happy to have that conversation with you. The academy is a great place and does prepare you for life......But, it is also not your typical college experience and your service time is not going to be a cake walk. She's a lacrosse player, not David Robinson. I think people's points are, and mine included, is that choosing to attend a service academy in 8th grade is a very BIG DECISION and I doubt she necessarily knows what she is getting into. And, there is no reason to commit to a service academy in 8th grade. Look around. Find out what your options are. Grow up a little and maybe learn a little more about yourself and what you are looking for out of college. The decision could have been made a year from now if not more. It's all about the rush to say I'm committed and it doesn't benefit the player of the school really. There will be a very high rate of washout from the academies if they continue down this road.

Just wishing to thank you for your service. My son is on a fast attack sub and currently underway. I have great respect for you subs and you are correct, the hours worked make the pay pale in comparison to civilian life. I have been in the military all of my life and to make that decision in 8th grade is insane.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Minimum pay? Uh, you really do not know what you are talking about. When they graduate they immediately make over fifty thousand. And it goes up pretty quickly after that. Do some research before you make misleading comments.

I don't need to do research. In case you couldn't tell by me saying that I am ex-Navy, I am an Academy graduate. I served 6 years as an officer on a ballistic missle submarine. If you wan't me to break down the hours that we worked under the conditions we worked in for the $52k I made I would be happy to have that conversation with you. The academy is a great place and does prepare you for life......But, it is also not your typical college experience and your service time is not going to be a cake walk. She's a lacrosse player, not David Robinson. I think people's points are, and mine included, is that choosing to attend a service academy in 8th grade is a very BIG DECISION and I doubt she necessarily knows what she is getting into. And, there is no reason to commit to a service academy in 8th grade. Look around. Find out what your options are. Grow up a little and maybe learn a little more about yourself and what you are looking for out of college. The decision could have been made a year from now if not more. It's all about the rush to say I'm committed and it doesn't benefit the player of the school really. There will be a very high rate of washout from the academies if they continue down this road.

This is an interesting comment. I wonder what the Navy SEAL father who very recently let his freshman son commit would say? We all may agree it's too young, but it is certainly an accelerating trend. My question is...is it the parent or kid who is committing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Minimum pay? Uh, you really do not know what you are talking about. When they graduate they immediately make over fifty thousand. And it goes up pretty quickly after that. Do some research before you make misleading comments.

I don't need to do research. In case you couldn't tell by me saying that I am ex-Navy, I am an Academy graduate. I served 6 years as an officer on a ballistic missle submarine. If you wan't me to break down the hours that we worked under the conditions we worked in for the $52k I made I would be happy to have that conversation with you. The academy is a great place and does prepare you for life......But, it is also not your typical college experience and your service time is not going to be a cake walk. She's a lacrosse player, not David Robinson. I think people's points are, and mine included, is that choosing to attend a service academy in 8th grade is a very BIG DECISION and I doubt she necessarily knows what she is getting into. And, there is no reason to commit to a service academy in 8th grade. Look around. Find out what your options are. Grow up a little and maybe learn a little more about yourself and what you are looking for out of college. The decision could have been made a year from now if not more. It's all about the rush to say I'm committed and it doesn't benefit the player of the school really. There will be a very high rate of washout from the academies if they continue down this road.

Thanks for your service and no offense to the rest of you knuckleheads and ego crazy parents but I think this poster is more qualified than the rest of you to speak on this topic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That all sounds good but she is not committing to give the academy a try for 2 years and then leave, she is committing to give the navy 9 years of her life.The question for me is why commit now , what advantage does that give her other than mommy and daddy feeding their egos.

As stated above, it is obviously not for you or your daughter. I think that is an important thing to recognize in her and yourself. Nothing wrong with that at all. Now, simply move along and get out of this girl's way.

I am not in her way , egomaniacal parents are in her way . Do not know this kid or her parents but I know the type . Overbearing , over controlling , parents who have the kid training 24/7 . Good point by previous poster of it was not about the parents ego then why commit now , what's the advantage . If the kid is good enough and bright enough the academies will have room for her in 3 years and obviously money is not the issue .

Sounds like the Great Santini right here on Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow a 2021 commits to Navy. gotta believe an 8th grader is fully aware and ready to comiit to 3 years of military service. definitely has the maturity for that...

I literally said the same thing! How does a 13 yr old girl have the maturity level to make that decision. Barely reached puberty. This is a whole different kind of commitment. Parents. Please think before you jump just to say you have the youngest commit!

The older sister plays there. I am sure the family and the athlete have a good idea of what is involved in this decision.

You are sure the athlete - a 13-year old girl - has a good idea of what is involved in committing to 4 years at the Naval Academy and then 5 years of service in the Navy? No way! This is clearly a decision made by the parents - for her and her older sister (who apparently is only 15).

Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Forget the military part - I can't think of a good reason to commit to any college at that age. And I don't want to hear the "dream school" excuse - that's the parents' dream, not the child's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Yeah, but she was the first 2021 to commit!! Aren't you jealous?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Its easy to sit here and judge a kid and family for making the decision but until you have those offers on the table...why not just say Congrats and hope it works out for her. Its easy to identify the negatives to early recruiting, but there can be positives for each girl/ boy that only apply to that individual.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Its easy to sit here and judge a kid and family for making the decision but until you have those offers on the table...why not just say Congrats and hope it works out for her. Its easy to identify the negatives to early recruiting, but there can be positives for each girl/ boy that only apply to that individual.

Do you really think she was being pressured by the schools to make a decision? No way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Yeah, but she was the first 2021 to commit!! Aren't you jealous?

Obviously many people are.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Yeah, but she was the first 2021 to commit!! Aren't you jealous?

Obviously many people are.....

What makes it obvious? That people think that her parents are nuts? If this were another school other than an academy I wouldn't have an issue with it.

You realize that she's 13 now and 13 years from now she will still be in the Navy? You don't see anything a bit off about that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Yeah, but she was the first 2021 to commit!! Aren't you jealous?

Obviously many people are.....

Sorry mom time to take your meds again .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Can anyone actually give a reasonable reason/advantage why its a good idea to have a 12-13 year old commit 9 years of their life .I must honestly be missing something. I have read the above posts and have yet to see a reasonable explanation as to why its a good idea. I get its a great school but it will be just as great in 3 years.

Its easy to sit here and judge a kid and family for making the decision but until you have those offers on the table...why not just say Congrats and hope it works out for her. Its easy to identify the negatives to early recruiting, but there can be positives for each girl/ boy that only apply to that individual. [/quote

Please tell us any possible positive for the kid in this case .

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

All very true (except I think it was said that commitment to service is after the first year of college), which further begs the question - Why go public with the decision, if not for ego?

Great point. Nothing is locked in. And don't be fooled...the parents aren't deciding that "today is the day I want my child committed". The coaches are stuck with early committing and there is an overall pressure for the parents that there won't be any spots left on the team (reality for the top teams). As most parents know, you may want your child committed in the worst way, but the coaches are the ones initiating the process. Also, if you are fortunate enough to have a child being offered money, the money goes QUICKLY! I personally know of people who waited a year or so to commit from an offer, and lost scholarship $. Nothing will change without changes to NCAA rules overall. To blame parents is ridiculous and, although college coaches hate the process as well, they are stuck with it.

The service agreement that Midshipmen sign comes at the end of their sophomore year. It is called a "2 for 7" agreement, meaning that you will receive two more years of education at the Academy in return for 5 years of service.

By then they are 20 years old or older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point. Nothing is locked in. And don't be fooled...the parents aren't deciding that "today is the day I want my child committed". The coaches are stuck with early committing and there is an overall pressure for the parents that there won't be any spots left on the team (reality for the top teams). As most parents know, you may want your child committed in the worst way, but the coaches are the ones initiating the process. Also, if you are fortunate enough to have a child being offered money, the money goes QUICKLY! I personally know of people who waited a year or so to commit from an offer, and lost scholarship $. Nothing will change without changes to NCAA rules overall. To blame parents is ridiculous and, although college coaches hate the process as well, they are stuck with it.

The 2 for 7 agreement is signed in August before the start of junior year. Prior to that, barring a finding of bad faith, Midshipmen may separate from the Academy without obligation, financial or otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Such a weak response. You make it sound as if the verbal commitment has zero meaning; if that is the case why bother giving your verbal commitment. As far as motivation , not being committed but wanting to be is more motivating especially on the lacrosse end.
Your response also shows a lack of character which is the exact opposite of what the Naval Academy is all about. You are giving your word and should be expected to follow thru on it. You act as if your actions have no negative impact if you decide last minute to bail on your verbal. It has an impact on the coaches ,your future teammates ,her sister in this case, and in the end you may have taken a spot of someone who intended to actually stand behind their commitment.
All of your arguments that she can just renege on her word anytime she wants is great argument for waiting to commit until they are old enough to actually know if that is the life they want.
Honestly I see it more and more people giving verbals as a fall back position till they find something better ,seems like a character trait I would not encourage in my kids.
Still waiting on the reason committing in this case as a 12 -13 y.o, was done other than ego, the argument that she can get out of the deal is not exactly a compelling reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Such a weak response. You make it sound as if the verbal commitment has zero meaning; if that is the case why bother giving your verbal commitment. As far as motivation , not being committed but wanting to be is more motivating especially on the lacrosse end.
Your response also shows a lack of character which is the exact opposite of what the Naval Academy is all about. You are giving your word and should be expected to follow thru on it. You act as if your actions have no negative impact if you decide last minute to bail on your verbal. It has an impact on the coaches ,your future teammates ,her sister in this case, and in the end you may have taken a spot of someone who intended to actually stand behind their commitment.
All of your arguments that she can just renege on her word anytime she wants is great argument for waiting to commit until they are old enough to actually know if that is the life they want.
Honestly I see it more and more people giving verbals as a fall back position till they find something better ,seems like a character trait I would not encourage in my kids.
Still waiting on the reason committing in this case as a 12 -13 y.o, was done other than ego, the argument that she can get out of the deal is not exactly a compelling reason.

LOL, you are a mess. Nobody is promoting making a verbal commitment and then reneging. But, somebody had to counter the ludicrous point that somehow the 14 year old was going to be shipped off to basic training. And if you consult with the coaches and the Academy you will learn how they feel about it, which in a nutshell is this: We recognize people change (especially young people) and we respect that and we do not want somebody here that does not want to be here.

The coaches know girls will change their mind, just like the superintendent does, and they get a lot less flustered by it than "Anonymous" on BOTC does.

Of course, being "outraged" is in vogue now, so have at it.

I think everybody else, other than the willfully ignorant get the point.

As for the explanation you are seeking, since you have nothing to do with it, and it does not involve your child, my guess is you will get the explanation you are entitled to which is this:

Nothing. No explanation. Buzz off.

This is all about getting a verbal in before the rule changes, because after that, this kid can't be spoken to until she's a junior. You will be seeing an increase in 20s and 21s committing while there are lots of good 19s still out there, because 19s won't be affected by the rule change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Such a weak response. You make it sound as if the verbal commitment has zero meaning; if that is the case why bother giving your verbal commitment. As far as motivation , not being committed but wanting to be is more motivating especially on the lacrosse end.
Your response also shows a lack of character which is the exact opposite of what the Naval Academy is all about. You are giving your word and should be expected to follow thru on it. You act as if your actions have no negative impact if you decide last minute to bail on your verbal. It has an impact on the coaches ,your future teammates ,her sister in this case, and in the end you may have taken a spot of someone who intended to actually stand behind their commitment.
All of your arguments that she can just renege on her word anytime she wants is great argument for waiting to commit until they are old enough to actually know if that is the life they want.
Honestly I see it more and more people giving verbals as a fall back position till they find something better ,seems like a character trait I would not encourage in my kids.
Still waiting on the reason committing in this case as a 12 -13 y.o, was done other than ego, the argument that she can get out of the deal is not exactly a compelling reason.

LOL, you are a mess. Nobody is promoting making a verbal commitment and then reneging. But, somebody had to counter the ludicrous point that somehow the 14 year old was going to be shipped off to basic training. And if you consult with the coaches and the Academy you will learn how they feel about it, which in a nutshell is this: We recognize people change (especially young people) and we respect that and we do not want somebody here that does not want to be here.

The coaches know girls will change their mind, just like the superintendent does, and they get a lot less flustered by it than "Anonymous" on BOTC does.

Of course, being "outraged" is in vogue now, so have at it.

I think everybody else, other than the willfully ignorant get the point.

As for the explanation you are seeking, since you have nothing to do with it, and it does not involve your child, my guess is you will get the explanation you are entitled to which is this:

Nothing. No explanation. Buzz off.

Exactly! Great post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Such a weak response. You make it sound as if the verbal commitment has zero meaning; if that is the case why bother giving your verbal commitment. As far as motivation , not being committed but wanting to be is more motivating especially on the lacrosse end.
Your response also shows a lack of character which is the exact opposite of what the Naval Academy is all about. You are giving your word and should be expected to follow thru on it. You act as if your actions have no negative impact if you decide last minute to bail on your verbal. It has an impact on the coaches ,your future teammates ,her sister in this case, and in the end you may have taken a spot of someone who intended to actually stand behind their commitment.
All of your arguments that she can just renege on her word anytime she wants is great argument for waiting to commit until they are old enough to actually know if that is the life they want.
Honestly I see it more and more people giving verbals as a fall back position till they find something better ,seems like a character trait I would not encourage in my kids.
Still waiting on the reason committing in this case as a 12 -13 y.o, was done other than ego, the argument that she can get out of the deal is not exactly a compelling reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Such a weak response. You make it sound as if the verbal commitment has zero meaning; if that is the case why bother giving your verbal commitment. As far as motivation , not being committed but wanting to be is more motivating especially on the lacrosse end.
Your response also shows a lack of character which is the exact opposite of what the Naval Academy is all about. You are giving your word and should be expected to follow thru on it. You act as if your actions have no negative impact if you decide last minute to bail on your verbal. It has an impact on the coaches ,your future teammates ,her sister in this case, and in the end you may have taken a spot of someone who intended to actually stand behind their commitment.
All of your arguments that she can just renege on her word anytime she wants is great argument for waiting to commit until they are old enough to actually know if that is the life they want.
Honestly I see it more and more people giving verbals as a fall back position till they find something better ,seems like a character trait I would not encourage in my kids.
Still waiting on the reason committing in this case as a 12 -13 y.o, was done other than ego, the argument that she can get out of the deal is not exactly a compelling reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Such a weak response. You make it sound as if the verbal commitment has zero meaning; if that is the case why bother giving your verbal commitment. As far as motivation , not being committed but wanting to be is more motivating especially on the lacrosse end.
Your response also shows a lack of character which is the exact opposite of what the Naval Academy is all about. You are giving your word and should be expected to follow thru on it. You act as if your actions have no negative impact if you decide last minute to bail on your verbal. It has an impact on the coaches ,your future teammates ,her sister in this case, and in the end you may have taken a spot of someone who intended to actually stand behind their commitment.
All of your arguments that she can just renege on her word anytime she wants is great argument for waiting to commit until they are old enough to actually know if that is the life they want.
Honestly I see it more and more people giving verbals as a fall back position till they find something better ,seems like a character trait I would not encourage in my kids.
Still waiting on the reason committing in this case as a 12 -13 y.o, was done other than ego, the argument that she can get out of the deal is not exactly a compelling reason.

You're talking to the wrong audience. Notions like sticking to your word or honoring your commitment are lost on these guys apparently. Their egos, their daughters standing in the lacrosse community come way ahead of ethics or morals or integrity. Sad but can't be argued given the responses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Such a weak response. You make it sound as if the verbal commitment has zero meaning; if that is the case why bother giving your verbal commitment. As far as motivation , not being committed but wanting to be is more motivating especially on the lacrosse end.
Your response also shows a lack of character which is the exact opposite of what the Naval Academy is all about. You are giving your word and should be expected to follow thru on it. You act as if your actions have no negative impact if you decide last minute to bail on your verbal. It has an impact on the coaches ,your future teammates ,her sister in this case, and in the end you may have taken a spot of someone who intended to actually stand behind their commitment.
All of your arguments that she can just renege on her word anytime she wants is great argument for waiting to commit until they are old enough to actually know if that is the life they want.
Honestly I see it more and more people giving verbals as a fall back position till they find something better ,seems like a character trait I would not encourage in my kids.
Still waiting on the reason committing in this case as a 12 -13 y.o, was done other than ego, the argument that she can get out of the deal is not exactly a compelling reason.

LOL, you are a mess. Nobody is promoting making a verbal commitment and then reneging. But, somebody had to counter the ludicrous point that somehow the 14 year old was going to be shipped off to basic training. And if you consult with the coaches and the Academy you will learn how they feel about it, which in a nutshell is this: We recognize people change (especially young people) and we respect that and we do not want somebody here that does not want to be here.

The coaches know girls will change their mind, just like the superintendent does, and they get a lot less flustered by it than "Anonymous" on BOTC does.

Of course, being "outraged" is in vogue now, so have at it.

I think everybody else, other than the willfully ignorant get the point.

As for the explanation you are seeking, since you have nothing to do with it, and it does not involve your child, my guess is you will get the explanation you are entitled to which is this:

Nothing. No explanation. Buzz off.

Thanks dad now go take some of moms meds. The no explanation is because there is no reasonable explanation other than you are an egomaniacal important dad living thru his child. Actually the new vogue is your word and commitment means nothing just like you are advocating. Its interesting that you say a 14 year old when the 8th grader should be 12 or at most 13. Time to take your meds crazy dad.

Sorry, my kid graduated from USNA three years ago so I am nothing more than a surrogate speaking on behalf of whomever the parents of this young lady are.

As for you, what you lack in new material and meaningful insight, you more than make up for in your relentlessness.

Like I said, I can educate you and make you less ignorant, but I cannot do anything about willful ignorance.

I hope others have benefitted from the information above.

Good luck to you, your family, and your daughter.

Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess.

Sorry 10th grader 16. Typo.

You parents are ridiculous, congratulate the kid, move on and worry about your own kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, my kid graduated from USNA three years ago so I am nothing more than a surrogate speaking on behalf of whomever the parents of this young lady are.

As for you, what you lack in new material and meaningful insight, you more than make up for in your relentlessness.

Like I said, I can educate you and make you less ignorant, but I cannot do anything about willful ignorance.

I hope others have benefitted from the information above.

Good luck to you, your family, and your daughter.

Wow your kid graduated from USNA so it makes you an expert on parenting or early committing , obviously not . Still waiting for the one positive about committing to this institution in 8th grade which is what you have been lacking in new and old material . Zero chance your kid graduated from the academy with your lack of respect for a persons word .

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

The age cutoff in Maryland is Sept 15. So a kid born on Sept 19 will indeed be a 14 year old in 8th grade.

Idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You over-emoting people crack me up.

Fellas, if you have some gripes against early recruiting in general I get it. However, let's have a reality check for a moment. The 8th-9th grader that "commits" to play lacrosse at USNA is not signing a legal document that results in her foregoing her high school career and immediately being transferred to a submarine. So, you can get your collective shorts out of the knots they have formed and calm down a little.

What a kid is doing is "committing" to the application process to the USNA. She can change her mind an hour later. She can change her mind a year later. She can change her mind as a junior in high school. She can change her mind as a senior in high school. And, as pointed out above, she can change her mind in terms of "committing" to Naval service all the way up until the end of her second year in college.

Bottom line is this: She will have exactly ZERO ("0") obligation to serve until the end of her 2nd year of college when she will sign a commitment to serve 5 years upon graduation. Up until then, there is no commitment. Not even to lacrosse, which she can quit at any time and will not lose her scholarship for doing so because there are no scholarships.

Just like at other schools, as the girls get older they can and do change their minds. Or, maybe they do not even pass the admissions board. Or, maybe they fail a physical exam. The point is, as a parent, your daughter is really only "committing" to working hard on her grades, test scores, and lacrosse, and staying out of trouble. Those are goals that will serve her well regardless of where she ends up going to college.

Again, if you have concerns about early recruiting in general, I hear ya. However, to be clear about the main point, the 8th or 9th graders are locked into nothing. They can, do, and will frequently change their minds and there will be exactly zero consequences for doing so.

Such a weak response. You make it sound as if the verbal commitment has zero meaning; if that is the case why bother giving your verbal commitment. As far as motivation , not being committed but wanting to be is more motivating especially on the lacrosse end.
Your response also shows a lack of character which is the exact opposite of what the Naval Academy is all about. You are giving your word and should be expected to follow thru on it. You act as if your actions have no negative impact if you decide last minute to bail on your verbal. It has an impact on the coaches ,your future teammates ,her sister in this case, and in the end you may have taken a spot of someone who intended to actually stand behind their commitment.
All of your arguments that she can just renege on her word anytime she wants is great argument for waiting to commit until they are old enough to actually know if that is the life they want.
Honestly I see it more and more people giving verbals as a fall back position till they find something better ,seems like a character trait I would not encourage in my kids.
Still waiting on the reason committing in this case as a 12 -13 y.o, was done other than ego, the argument that she can get out of the deal is not exactly a compelling reason.

LOL, you are a mess. Nobody is promoting making a verbal commitment and then reneging. But, somebody had to counter the ludicrous point that somehow the 14 year old was going to be shipped off to basic training. And if you consult with the coaches and the Academy you will learn how they feel about it, which in a nutshell is this: We recognize people change (especially young people) and we respect that and we do not want somebody here that does not want to be here.

The coaches know girls will change their mind, just like the superintendent does, and they get a lot less flustered by it than "Anonymous" on BOTC does.

Of course, being "outraged" is in vogue now, so have at it.

I think everybody else, other than the willfully ignorant get the point.

As for the explanation you are seeking, since you have nothing to do with it, and it does not involve your child, my guess is you will get the explanation you are entitled to which is this:

Nothing. No explanation. Buzz off.

Thanks dad now go take some of moms meds. The no explanation is because there is no reasonable explanation other than you are an egomaniacal important dad living thru his child. Actually the new vogue is your word and commitment means nothing just like you are advocating. Its interesting that you say a 14 year old when the 8th grader should be 12 or at most 13. Time to take your meds crazy dad.

My 13 year old is in 9th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

The age cutoff in Maryland is Sept 15. So a kid born on Sept 19 will indeed be a 14 year old in 8th grade.

Idiot.

Hey moron the kid they are talking about is from Long Island which has an age cut off of dec 1. You and the guy with the kid that graduated from USNA and is this 12-13 year old naval commits advocate should get a room.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

Your wife and daughter would love to commit to military service. Life in a foxhole would be a massive upgrade for those poor souls.

Something tells me that everyone has said there peace on this topic. Can I suggest you all move on with your life as this decision will not effect you in anyway throughout your life.

Good healthy debate is productive. This is not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Something tells me that everyone has said there peace on this topic. Can I suggest you all move on with your life as this decision will not effect you in anyway throughout your life.

Good healthy debate is productive. This is not.

You are 100% right. I am one of those who was sucked in. Big mistake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Something tells me that everyone has said there peace on this topic. Can I suggest you all move on with your life as this decision will not effect you in anyway throughout your life.

Good healthy debate is productive. This is not.

Burrito talk. Let's talk burritos. All the cool forums are doing it.

The first 2021 commits to Navy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The first 2021 commits to Navy.

9 years old and headed to Parris Island.

Fall lacrosse in Hagerstown. That's a new concept. Good group of teams playing this weekend. Can't wait to watch some ball the next three weeks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Something tells me that everyone has said there peace on this topic. Can I suggest you all move on with your life as this decision will not effect you in anyway throughout your life.

Good healthy debate is productive. This is not.

Burrito talk. Let's talk burritos. All the cool forums are doing it.

Larry might want to start charging the Burrito Bowl company a marketing fee....we are giving that place alot of pub. I recommend the steak !

I agree some good teams headed to that tourney. Good lax.... better haunted house and corn maze. It is Hagerstown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Something tells me that everyone has said there peace on this topic. Can I suggest you all move on with your life as this decision will not effect you in anyway throughout your life.

Good healthy debate is productive. This is not.

Burrito talk. Let's talk burritos. All the cool forums are doing it.

Larry might want to start charging the Burrito Bowl company a marketing fee....we are giving that place alot of pub. I recommend the steak !

lol

Make sure to hit up the Krumpe's donuts shop on Friday night. Best donuts in the world.

can anyone explain, do certain teams play the same tourney each year? Notice that M&D, Hero's YJ, etc all play the same tourneys. Seems like they play each other week in and week out. are these tourneys by invite only?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

And on the flip side, the coach wanted to land the player. The early recruiting is driven by the coaches, not the players. Coach didn't want to lose out on landing a player, it is a commitment made on both sides. For the last many years I have been familiar with all the first and early commits, some leave you scratching your head. Not in this case. She is a great player, great student and great person. I am sure she will go on to achieve great things on and off the field!

And she just put down her Barbie last year.....certainly fully capable of making a decision that amounts to 9 years of her life (4 years at USNA + 5 year commitment (possibly deployed in Libya cleaning up HRC mess)).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

So now the reason to commit at 13 to 9 years of service is beat the mad rush.If the kid is as good as I believe she is they would want her when she is 16 so your point is just nonsense. The only reason is parents EGO.

And she just put down her Barbie last year.....certainly fully capable of making a decision that amounts to 9 years of her life (4 years at USNA + 5 year commitment (possibly deployed in Libya cleaning up HRC mess)).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can anyone explain, do certain teams play the same tourney each year? Notice that M&D, Hero's YJ, etc all play the same tourneys. Seems like they play each other week in and week out. are these tourneys by invite only?

There are a couple that are invite only, but for the most part, the good clubs go to the same tournaments because there is better competition and as they get older, it is where the most college coaches are. If your club isn't going to the tournaments where these teams are, you should be asking your club directors why not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

Navy had 20 commits in 2016 and 19 commits in 2017...lot of spots there...kinda shoots down that theory mr obvious...plus the fact a lot of kids aren't cut out for navy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, my kid graduated from USNA three years ago so I am nothing more than a surrogate speaking on behalf of whomever the parents of this young lady are.

As for you, what you lack in new material and meaningful insight, you more than make up for in your relentlessness.

Like I said, I can educate you and make you less ignorant, but I cannot do anything about willful ignorance.

I hope others have benefitted from the information above.

Good luck to you, your family, and your daughter.

Thanks professor for the education. Your information summarized as follows, its okay for a 10-13 year old to verbally commit to a service academy because their word means nothing and they can back out whenever they want. Got it ,thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

So now the reason to commit at 13 to 9 years of service is beat the mad rush.If the kid is as good as I believe she is they would want her when she is 16 so your point is just nonsense. The only reason is parents EGO.

The only ego at play here is the ego of the parent whose child isn't getting attention from coaches yet. It takes a massive ego to think that you, and only you, know what's best for someone else's child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

Navy had 20 commits in 2016 and 19 commits in 2017...lot of spots there...kinda shoots down that theory mr obvious...plus the fact a lot of kids aren't cut out for navy.

Sorry, but no. You would need to know when the commitments were made, wouldn't you? You would if you understood logic.

Bottom line - you are the one with the massive ego to think that you know what's best for other people's children.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

Navy had 20 commits in 2016 and 19 commits in 2017...lot of spots there...kinda shoots down that theory mr obvious...plus the fact a lot of kids aren't cut out for navy.

Sorry, but no. You would need to know when the commitments were made, wouldn't you? You would if you understood logic.

Bottom line - you are the one with the massive ego to think that you know what's best for other people's children.

Its a forum, people have different opinions. Most people on this forum could care less about this kid, just posting their opinions. Yeah 20 kids committed in 8th grade for the 2016s, they had to hurry so they didnt lose their spot...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Uh last I checked if a 8th grader is 14 and a 9th grader is 15 and a 10th grader is 26 and an 11th grader is 17 that would make a senior in high school 18. That guy is right, you are a mess. [/quote

Again you prove to be ignorant , if a kid is 14 now and in 8th grade they have either been held back or left back if they go to school on Long Island you dope .

You know, you have been wrong in every statement you have made. This is yet another example. Do the math you clown.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

So now the reason to commit at 13 to 9 years of service is beat the mad rush.If the kid is as good as I believe she is they would want her when she is 16 so your point is just nonsense. The only reason is parents EGO.

The only ego at play here is the ego of the parent whose child isn't getting attention from coaches yet. It takes a massive ego to think that you, and only you, know what's best for someone else's child.

I know smoking cigarettes is not good for anyone's 13 year old , does that mean I am an egomaniac. Anyone that thinks having kids commit to service academies at 13 is a good idea is an idiot . Hopefully the NCAA steps in to protect these kids from their own parents.

IMO, anyone that has their kid commit before they are a Junior is totally nuts. If you kid is good enough they will find a spot. Even juniors don't really know what they are "committing" to, but any younger than that and IMO you are setting your kid up to look bad. But hey, different stokes for different folks! Hit the books and enjoy the ride, because none of them are going to be professional lacrosse players.

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out. [/quote]

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason? [/quote]

So now the reason to commit at 13 to 9 years of service is beat the mad rush.If the kid is as good as I believe she is they would want her when she is 16 so your point is just nonsense. The only reason is parents EGO. [/quote]

The only ego at play here is the ego of the parent whose child isn't getting attention from coaches yet. It takes a massive ego to think that you, and only you, know what's best for someone else's child.
[/quote]

I know smoking cigarettes is not good for anyone's 13 year old , does that mean I am an egomaniac. Anyone that thinks having kids commit to service academies at 13 is a good idea is an idiot . Hopefully the NCAA steps in to protect these kids from their own parents. [/quote]

If you don't know the difference between smoking cigarettes and verbally committing to one of the most selective schools in the country, then you are the idiot here.

How many times can someone tell you that the girl hasn't actually committed to attend any school, that's it's not legally binding, that she can change her mind later, etc.?

Why be so obtuse?

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out. [/quote]

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason? [/quote]

Navy had 20 commits in 2016 and 19 commits in 2017...lot of spots there...kinda shoots down that theory mr obvious...plus the fact a lot of kids aren't cut out for navy. [/quote]

Sorry, but no. You would need to know when the commitments were made, wouldn't you? You would if you understood logic.

Bottom line - you are the one with the massive ego to think that you know what's best for other people's children. [/quote]

Its a forum, people have different opinions. Most people on this forum could care less about this kid, just posting their opinions. Yeah 20 kids committed in 8th grade for the 2016s, they had to hurry so they didnt lose their spot... [/quote]

Actually, no one suggested that they all committed in 8th grade either...except for you. I'm happy to read even logically flawed responses if offered with appropriate humility, but the opinions given by others included gratuitous insults.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMO, anyone that has their kid commit before they are a Junior is totally nuts. If you kid is good enough they will find a spot. Even juniors don't really know what they are "committing" to, but any younger than that and IMO you are setting your kid up to look bad. But hey, different stokes for different folks! Hit the books and enjoy the ride, because none of them are going to be professional lacrosse players.

Ok. So I am totally nuts. But I'd like to hear why.

"If your kid is good enough, they will find a spot"
You mean somewhere, at some school? Well then yes. Where she wanted to go, no. She is a 2019 and her recruiting class is already full at her future school.

"Even juniors don't really know what they are "committing" to, but any younger than that and IMO you are setting your kid up to look bad."

How so? How specifically will it make my kid look bad??

"Hit the books and enjoy the ride, because none of them are going to be professional lacrosse players."

She is going to an elite academic institution and has straight A's so far in high school in all honors classes. So she hits the books. And she is not striving to be a professional lacrosse player, she is striving to be a good college player.

So again I ask, how as a parent am I nuts? Following your advice, she would not be attending this amazing school and lacrosse program. Allowing her to commit before junior year has allowed her to have that opportunity. It's not binding. If junior or senior year things have changed and she decides she wants to play D3 at Middlebury for instance, she still can.

It may be one of the most select schools in the country for general students, but 39 commits in two years for lax team. That doesn't seem most select for lax players. Also, the argument about if she waited to junior year to commit, might not be a spot doesn't hold water, she's the number 1 2021 commit...i think they would save her a spot.

Lotta stupid on this thread. Virtually all of it from one guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lotta stupid on this thread. Virtually all of it from one guy.

Good comeback. Guess the facts were too much for you. With that said, great respect for Annapolis and the Midshipmen, They are amazing young people attending. Thank you for your service.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lotta stupid on this thread. Virtually all of it from one guy.

Good comeback. Guess the facts were too much for you. With that said, great respect for Annapolis and the Midshipmen, They are amazing young people attending. Thank you for your service.

It wasn't a comeback, it was an observation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lotta stupid on this thread. Virtually all of it from one guy.

I think you may be surprised that there are multiple posters on both sides of this issue .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So now the reason to commit at 13 to 9 years of service is beat the mad rush.If the kid is as good as I believe she is they would want her when she is 16 so your point is just nonsense. The only reason is parents EGO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only ego at play here is the ego of the parent whose child isn't getting attention from coaches yet. It takes a massive ego to think that you, and only you, know what's best for someone else's child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know smoking cigarettes is not good for anyone's 13 year old , does that mean I am an egomaniac. Anyone that thinks having kids commit to service academies at 13 is a good idea is an idiot . Hopefully the NCAA steps in to protect these kids from their own parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't know the difference between smoking cigarettes and verbally committing to one of the most selective schools in the country, then you are the idiot here.

How many times can someone tell you that the girl hasn't actually committed to attend any school, that's it's not legally binding, that she can change her mind later, etc.?

Why be so obtuse?

I cannot tell if you are joking or really this ignorant . So your reason that it's a good idea for a 13 year old to verbally commit to a service academy is " that the girl hasn't actually committed to anything ". In case you are too stupid to understand she has committed 9 years of her life to the navy . Yes we all understand that you feel her word and commitment have no meaning but that is a sad lesson to teach your kids . Honor , Courage , Committment sound familiar .

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Maybe your opinion is just like the verbal commitment of your own kid , it does not matter because you can change it whenever you want. You are a loser so go take your meds, keep teaching your kid that her commitments mean nothing she will end up just like you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Could you make it any easier to prove that you are a moron , cut off in NYS is December 1. Because you are such a simpleton I will spell it out for you , any kid who is currently 14 and is in 8th grade on Long Island is a hold back. I would abuse you some more but its just sad, maybe you and the dope with the fictitious kid who was a USNA graduate can get together and come on here with a legitimate reason a kid should commit to 9 years of service other than they can back out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about: because her spot at USNA is now reserved for her. If she waited until her junior year to make up her mind, maybe all of the spots would already have been taken by then. The lax coach only has so many spots to offer, right?

If you're so smart, why couldn't you think of this obvious reason?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So now the reason to commit at 13 to 9 years of service is beat the mad rush.If the kid is as good as I believe she is they would want her when she is 16 so your point is just nonsense. The only reason is parents EGO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only ego at play here is the ego of the parent whose child isn't getting attention from coaches yet. It takes a massive ego to think that you, and only you, know what's best for someone else's child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know smoking cigarettes is not good for anyone's 13 year old , does that mean I am an egomaniac. Anyone that thinks having kids commit to service academies at 13 is a good idea is an idiot . Hopefully the NCAA steps in to protect these kids from their own parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you don't know the difference between smoking cigarettes and verbally committing to one of the most selective schools in the country, then you are the idiot here.

How many times can someone tell you that the girl hasn't actually committed to attend any school, that's it's not legally binding, that she can change her mind later, etc.?

Why be so obtuse?

I cannot tell if you are joking or really this ignorant . So your reason that it's a good idea for a 13 year old to verbally commit to a service academy is " that the girl hasn't actually committed to anything ". In case you are too stupid to understand she has committed 9 years of her life to the navy . Yes we all understand that you feel her word and commitment have no meaning but that is a sad lesson to teach your kids . Honor , Courage , Committment sound familiar .

Dude..,why do you care so much for what some other family and girl did? It's none of your business. My (educated) guess is that your daughter was snubbed by her "dream" school or she wasn't as good as you thought she was and had to accept a scholarship to a school that you didn't like. Jeez man...leave the family alone. Get over YOUR disappointment and congratulate the family and kid. Grow up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Maybe your opinion is just like the verbal commitment of your own kid , it does not matter because you can change it whenever you want. You are a loser so go take your meds, keep teaching your kid that her commitments mean nothing she will end up just like you.

My kid verbally committed years ago and is currently serving her country in the United States Navy after completing 4 of the best (and toughest) years of her life at the Naval Academy.

Here is the difference between you and me (one of several I am guessing)...I know wth I am talking about, and you? Not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Maybe your opinion is just like the verbal commitment of your own kid , it does not matter because you can change it whenever you want. You are a loser so go take your meds, keep teaching your kid that her commitments mean nothing she will end up just like you.

Relax man, there is nothing wrong with Suffolk Community College. By the time your girl is 20 she will be ready to make the big decision whether to commit to a 9 week film studies course or really risk it all with some underwater basket weaving.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Maybe your opinion is just like the verbal commitment of your own kid , it does not matter because you can change it whenever you want. You are a loser so go take your meds, keep teaching your kid that her commitments mean nothing she will end up just like you.

My kid verbally committed years ago and is currently serving her country in the United States Navy after completing 4 of the best (and toughest) years of her life at the Naval Academy.

Here is the difference between you and me (one of several I am guessing)...I know wth I am talking about, and you? Not so much.

Whats your point? no ones saying its not a great school, just no need to commit so early to it. No money involved and plenty of spots. Family just wanted to say they were the first to commit. Admit that and the discussion would be over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Maybe your opinion is just like the verbal commitment of your own kid , it does not matter because you can change it whenever you want. You are a loser so go take your meds, keep teaching your kid that her commitments mean nothing she will end up just like you.

My kid verbally committed years ago and is currently serving her country in the United States Navy after completing 4 of the best (and toughest) years of her life at the Naval Academy.

Here is the difference between you and me (one of several I am guessing)...I know wth I am talking about, and you? Not so much.

Again ,USNA is a great school and not 1 person has said otherwise. Your kid was not 13 when she committed . Your kid obviously took her committment seriously . Truly do not have a jeolous bone in my body about this kid , I do take issue with a kid committing to the military at 13. If you think 13 year old kids committing to 9 years of service is a good idea I would be very surprised that you actually have a kid who went thru it . As for me having no idea what I am talking about its been 30 plus years and things have changed a lot but I guarantee you I know more about the Naval Academy than having a daughter who has gone there has taught you . I know of ,but do not know the family in question so it's really more a stance against the situation than the family .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Maybe your opinion is just like the verbal commitment of your own kid , it does not matter because you can change it whenever you want. You are a loser so go take your meds, keep teaching your kid that her commitments mean nothing she will end up just like you.

My kid verbally committed years ago and is currently serving her country in the United States Navy after completing 4 of the best (and toughest) years of her life at the Naval Academy.

Here is the difference between you and me (one of several I am guessing)...I know wth I am talking about, and you? Not so much.

Again ,USNA is a great school and not 1 person has said otherwise. Your kid was not 13 when she committed . Your kid obviously took her committment seriously . Truly do not have a jeolous bone in my body about this kid , I do take issue with a kid committing to the military at 13. If you think 13 year old kids committing to 9 years of service is a good idea I would be very surprised that you actually have a kid who went thru it . As for me having no idea what I am talking about its been 30 plus years and things have changed a lot but I guarantee you I know more about the Naval Academy than having a daughter who has gone there has taught you . I know of ,but do not know the family in question so it's really more a stance against the situation than the family .

How about it's non of your business, she's not your kid, no one cares about your opinion on this situation, this kid or the naval academy. If you wnt to the academy you should have learned to keep your unsolicited opinion to yourself. Navy takes so many recruits because so many either Don't make the grades for admission, can't get the letter or change there minds, this kid would not be the first nor the last to have any or all of these things happen, IF you went to navy you would know that. It's been 4 days of this can we move on now, we have all heard your opinion...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Maybe your opinion is just like the verbal commitment of your own kid , it does not matter because you can change it whenever you want. You are a loser so go take your meds, keep teaching your kid that her commitments mean nothing she will end up just like you.

My kid verbally committed years ago and is currently serving her country in the United States Navy after completing 4 of the best (and toughest) years of her life at the Naval Academy.

Here is the difference between you and me (one of several I am guessing)...I know wth I am talking about, and you? Not so much.

Again ,USNA is a great school and not 1 person has said otherwise. Your kid was not 13 when she committed . Your kid obviously took her committment seriously . Truly do not have a jeolous bone in my body about this kid , I do take issue with a kid committing to the military at 13. If you think 13 year old kids committing to 9 years of service is a good idea I would be very surprised that you actually have a kid who went thru it . As for me having no idea what I am talking about its been 30 plus years and things have changed a lot but I guarantee you I know more about the Naval Academy than having a daughter who has gone there has taught you . I know of ,but do not know the family in question so it's really more a stance against the situation than the family .

How about it's non of your business, she's not your kid, no one cares about your opinion on this situation, this kid or the naval academy. If you wnt to the academy you should have learned to keep your unsolicited opinion to yourself. Navy takes so many recruits because so many either Don't make the grades for admission, can't get the letter or change there minds, this kid would not be the first nor the last to have any or all of these things happen, IF you went to navy you would know that. It's been 4 days of this can we move on now, we have all heard your opinion...

You really are an ignorant person . Again no one hopes this kid fails . People are commenting on the idea that a 13 year old has the capacity to commit 9 years of their life and actually understand what that requires .
Obviously you had a few too many prior to responding but your point that so many commit and than are unable to meet the criteria for admissions should be a red flag as to why 13 year olds who have never taken a high school class should not commit . Even your somewhat pickled /medicated brain should understand that .
There is no legitimate reason for any middle school student to committ 9 years of their life other than mommy and daddy egos . Take another pill have another drink this subject matter is closed for me .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK. So, you have established repeatedly that you are stuck on stupid. No problem. Nobody is coming along to Shanghai your kid and send them to the South China Sea.

And you don't agree with other parents' decisions?

Too bad for you and thank God for them that your opinion doesn't count.

Maybe your opinion is just like the verbal commitment of your own kid , it does not matter because you can change it whenever you want. You are a loser so go take your meds, keep teaching your kid that her commitments mean nothing she will end up just like you.

My kid verbally committed years ago and is currently serving her country in the United States Navy after completing 4 of the best (and toughest) years of her life at the Naval Academy.

Here is the difference between you and me (one of several I am guessing)...I know wth I am talking about, and you? Not so much.

Again ,USNA is a great school and not 1 person has said otherwise. Your kid was not 13 when she committed . Your kid obviously took her committment seriously . Truly do not have a jeolous bone in my body about this kid , I do take issue with a kid committing to the military at 13. If you think 13 year old kids committing to 9 years of service is a good idea I would be very surprised that you actually have a kid who went thru it . As for me having no idea what I am talking about its been 30 plus years and things have changed a lot but I guarantee you I know more about the Naval Academy than having a daughter who has gone there has taught you . I know of ,but do not know the family in question so it's really more a stance against the situation than the family .

How about it's non of your business, she's not your kid, no one cares about your opinion on this situation, this kid or the naval academy. If you wnt to the academy you should have learned to keep your unsolicited opinion to yourself. Navy takes so many recruits because so many either Don't make the grades for admission, can't get the letter or change there minds, this kid would not be the first nor the last to have any or all of these things happen, IF you went to navy you would know that. It's been 4 days of this can we move on now, we have all heard your opinion...

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

"this subject matter is closed for me"

Yeah, right. When stupidity and arrogance are mixed with relentlessness, it is never closed.

Not only will you be back, you will likely be the very next post on this forum.

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up. [/quote] No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her [/quote]

Bingo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her [/quote

its a forum...if everybody minded there own business, BOTC would be out of business...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her [/quote]

Didn't you just express your unsolicited opinion , you dope .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her

Tell me how I gave an opinion?

Didn't you just express your unsolicited opinion , you dope . [/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her [/quote

its a forum...if everybody minded there own business, BOTC would be out of business...

maybe thats really whats best for our kids and the sport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her

Tell me how I gave an opinion?

Didn't you just express your unsolicited opinion , you dope .

[/quote]

Seriously , you do not see that you expressed an opinion about other people expressing their opinions which is just very ironic. It's also sad that you do not see it .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her

Tell me how I gave an opinion?

Didn't you just express your unsolicited opinion , you dope .

Seriously , you do not see that you expressed an opinion about other people expressing their opinions which is just very ironic. It's also sad that you do not see it . [/quote]You're a hillary supporter Aren't you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her

Tell me how I gave an opinion?

Didn't you just express your unsolicited opinion , you dope .

Seriously , you do not see that you expressed an opinion about other people expressing their opinions which is just very ironic. It's also sad that you do not see it . [/quote]

Heck, that's nothing. You committed to not posting anymore on this topic and an hour later you de-committed...[lacrosse], I know 13 year old girls that have done a better job of keeping their commitment to the Naval Academy.

Newsflash: We will not be hearing from ILD for a while. After today it is rumored that he is entering the witness protection program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Newsflash: We will not be hearing from ILD for a while. After today it is rumored that he is entering the witness protection program.

Again, the ILD here is you. You are the one that rushed in here to post this as soon as the game ended.

M&D has no reason to be ashamed or hide. Skywalkers played well. They dominated the draw and played tough defense. The teams split two games this weekend and were clearly the two best teams there. Its not amazing that M&D lost. It was bound to happen eventually especially in short games.

Any truth to the rumor that the half of the M and D roster that is not allowed to play in wicked important games will be petitioning the commissioner of little league lacrosse to have the loss removed from their record?

Good to see my man ILD supporting the hardest working little kids in America even during the tough times.

LOL. Mnd dad outs himself as ILD. Love it.

M&D is a machine. All aspects of their play is disciplined and sharp with really good players. It was nice to see the game and it was nice to see the Skywalkers win one. Many more great games to come.

I'm not surprised the M&D run ended. They played from behind several times this weekend, and not just one or two goals, which never bodes well.

26 goals against and a moderate goal differential doesn't sound sound like a "machine" to me. Still top tier, but some small cracks appeared this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You obviously care about other people's opinions or else you wouldn't get so worked up.

No I really don't, just sick of hearing what people think about what someone else has decided. It's none of our business. Maybe this kid IS ready to make that commitment, Maybe she's not. Maybe her parents pressured her into it, Maybe not. Maybe she can't make the grades, maybe she can't get a congressional letter, maybe she doesn't like it after her first year, maybe Navy is her dream school, maybe she washes out, maybe she gets hurt tomorrow, maybe there is a coaching change and she decides not to go. Who cares it's not your daughter, keep your unsolicited opinion of this kid, her parents and her decision to yourself Good luck to her

Tell me how I gave an opinion?

Didn't you just express your unsolicited opinion , you dope .

Seriously , you do not see that you expressed an opinion about other people expressing their opinions which is just very ironic. It's also sad that you do not see it .

Heck, that's nothing. You committed to not posting anymore on this topic and an hour later you de-committed...[lacrosse], I know 13 year old girls that have done a better job of keeping their commitment to the Naval Academy.

[/quote]

This is a new topic , we are discussing how you fail to comprehend any post including your own and have just proved that very fact when you bring up my previous post . Hopfully you will refrain from your drunk posting again .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not surprised the M&D run ended. They played from behind several times this weekend, and not just one or two goals, which never bodes well.

Only half of the team lost.

Crazy Anti-Navy Guy or ILD...who needs a hug more tonight?

Are you implying that a number of M&D girls didn't get much playing time this weekend? If so, it shouldn't matter. Their team chemistry is 2nd to none with each player fully understanding the role they play on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you implying that a number of M&D girls didn't get much playing time this weekend? If so, it shouldn't matter. Their team chemistry is 2nd to none with each player fully understanding the role they play on the team.

That's what u think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crazy Anti-Navy Guy or ILD...who needs a hug more tonight?

Most likely your wife . Your nicknames are boring .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you implying that a number of M&D girls didn't get much playing time this weekend? If so, it shouldn't matter. Their team chemistry is 2nd to none with each player fully understanding the role they play on the team.

Whatever you say chief, whatever you say.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you implying that a number of M&D girls didn't get much playing time this weekend? If so, it shouldn't matter. Their team chemistry is 2nd to none with each player fully understanding the role they play on the team.

Playing time was pretty even all weekend other than the championship game. There were some Skywalkers girls that played little if any in that game also. 25 minute games make it tough

Did M&D have their regular goalie this weekend?

Some are not happy. Getcha popcorn ready.

M&D appeared had all of their key players playing including their big goalie. SW were missing two starters (soccer, concussion)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you implying that a number of M&D girls didn't get much playing time this weekend? If so, it shouldn't matter. Their team chemistry is 2nd to none with each player fully understanding the role they play on the team.

The girls who were shortchanged minutes this weekend will get their minutes vs Yellow Jackets this coming weekend. It will be a long ride back to Long Island after Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D appeared had all of their key players playing including their big goalie. SW were missing two starters (soccer, concussion)

M&D shorthanded Sunday as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D appeared had all of their key players playing including their big goalie. SW were missing two starters (soccer, concussion)

M&D shorthanded Sunday as well.

Yeah, they were short about a bunch of girls. They were disguised as cheerleaders.

From prior postings, I thought M&D was stocked from top to bottom. You could sub out one part and replace it with an equally effective part. This is the first time I have ever read an M&D posting making excuses for a loss. Are they part of the mortal world now??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From prior postings, I thought M&D was stocked from top to bottom. You could sub out one part and replace it with an equally effective part. This is the first time I have ever read an M&D posting making excuses for a loss. Are they part of the mortal world now??

No excuses. Skywalkers outplayed M&D yesterday. It was posted in response the the post that Skywalkers was missing girls. Your statement is also a little silly. You don't see posts about excuses for losses from M&D because they hadn't lost in almost 2 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From prior postings, I thought M&D was stocked from top to bottom. You could sub out one part and replace it with an equally effective part. This is the first time I have ever read an M&D posting making excuses for a loss. Are they part of the mortal world now??

No excuses. Skywalkers outplayed M&D yesterday. It was posted in response the the post that Skywalkers was missing girls. Your statement is also a little silly. You don't see posts about excuses for losses from M&D because they hadn't lost in almost 2 years.

ILD can't help himself. LOL. Great post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From prior postings, I thought M&D was stocked from top to bottom. You could sub out one part and replace it with an equally effective part. This is the first time I have ever read an M&D posting making excuses for a loss. Are they part of the mortal world now??

No excuses. Skywalkers outplayed M&D yesterday. It was posted in response the the post that Skywalkers was missing girls. Your statement is also a little silly. You don't see posts about excuses for losses from M&D because they hadn't lost in almost 2 years.

ILD can't help himself. LOL. Great post.

You realize that no one finds the ILD stuff funny other than yourself? What exactly is your issue with M&D? Please enlighten us. My daughter got cut by them and I don't harbor half the ill will you seem to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From prior postings, I thought M&D was stocked from top to bottom. You could sub out one part and replace it with an equally effective part. This is the first time I have ever read an M&D posting making excuses for a loss. Are they part of the mortal world now??

No excuses. Skywalkers outplayed M&D yesterday. It was posted in response the the post that Skywalkers was missing girls. Your statement is also a little silly. You don't see posts about excuses for losses from M&D because they hadn't lost in almost 2 years.

ILD can't help himself. LOL. Great post.

OWILD

If you have seen the movie "Miracle" about the 1980 Olympic hockey team, it reminds me of the scene where Herb Brooks points out during the game that the Soviets don't know what do to because they had never trailed in a game before. M&D doesn't know how to react today because they haven't lost in two years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From prior postings, I thought M&D was stocked from top to bottom. You could sub out one part and replace it with an equally effective part. This is the first time I have ever read an M&D posting making excuses for a loss. Are they part of the mortal world now??

No excuses. Skywalkers outplayed M&D yesterday. It was posted in response the the post that Skywalkers was missing girls. Your statement is also a little silly. You don't see posts about excuses for losses from M&D because they hadn't lost in almost 2 years.

ILD can't help himself. LOL. Great post.

You realize that no one finds the ILD stuff funny other than yourself? What exactly is your issue with M&D? Please enlighten us. My daughter got cut by them and I don't harbor half the ill will you seem to.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

Great Analogy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you have seen the movie "Miracle" about the 1980 Olympic hockey team, it reminds me of the scene where Herb Brooks points out during the game that the Soviets don't know what do to because they had never trailed in a game before. M&D doesn't know how to react today because they haven't lost in two years.

Except they were losing 6-0 to Heros on Saturday and scored 11 straight and ended up winning easily.

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you have seen the movie "Miracle" about the 1980 Olympic hockey team, it reminds me of the scene where Herb Brooks points out during the game that the Soviets don't know what do to because they had never trailed in a game before. M&D doesn't know how to react today because they haven't lost in two years.

Except they were losing 6-0 to Heros on Saturday and scored 11 straight and ended up winning easily.

ZING

This is all pretty amusing. So much excitement over a team losing a 25 minute game. Md United beat them in a 25 minute game a couple years ago. It happens. What's more amazing is that it didn't happen sooner. All of you on here saying that girls didn't play are missing the fact that those girls are the reason they are almost impossible to beat in a full game. The top 10 girls or so on the top teams are pretty comparable. Where M&D gets you is when they sub there is very little drop off. No teams do much subbing in 25 min games. There's no need.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is all pretty amusing. So much excitement over a team losing a 25 minute game. Md United beat them in a 25 minute game a couple years ago. It happens. What's more amazing is that it didn't happen sooner. All of you on here saying that girls didn't play are missing the fact that those girls are the reason they are almost impossible to beat in a full game. The top 10 girls or so on the top teams are pretty comparable. Where M&D gets you is when they sub there is very little drop off. No teams do much subbing in 25 min games. There's no need.

If there were middle school lacrosse history books, there would be a chapter about the fabled M&D 21 team.

If.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Elevate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

You're right. There is a new king in town. They may never lose again!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

nice trolling. My guess is one of the wonderful Hero's parents we saw this past weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

So you are comparing Elevate with Skywalkers? Skywalkers as a club always produces top notch teams. They are always to be considered among the best across the age groups. Elevate had one pretty good age group many years ago. This age group in particular (2021) for the last few years is way out the back, not even close. Maybe they picked up many major talented players this off season and they will compete???. I heard they were actually trending down, but I guess we will see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

So you are comparing Elevate with Skywalkers? Skywalkers as a club always produces top notch teams. They are always to be considered among the best across the age groups. Elevate had one pretty good age group many years ago. This age group in particular (2021) for the last few years is way out the back, not even close. Maybe they picked up many major talented players this off season and they will compete???. I heard they were actually trending down, but I guess we will see.

Skywalkers do it right. Their younger teams may start slow, but by the time recruiting comes around they get it going. 2021 is a perfect example. Recruiting time is starting up for the 2021's and just in time, all their hard work, great coaching, and team chemistry has come together to make them the top team in the age group.

That would be a good model for Elevate to follow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

So you are comparing Elevate with Skywalkers? Skywalkers as a club always produces top notch teams. They are always to be considered among the best across the age groups. Elevate had one pretty good age group many years ago. This age group in particular (2021) for the last few years is way out the back, not even close. Maybe they picked up many major talented players this off season and they will compete???. I heard they were actually trending down, but I guess we will see.

Skywalkers do it right. Their younger teams may start slow, but by the time recruiting comes around they get it going. 2021 is a perfect example. Recruiting time is starting up for the 2021's and just in time, all their hard work, great coaching, and team chemistry has come together to make them the top team in the age group.

That would be a good model for Elevate to follow.

Keep trying with the top team stuff. Post it a few more times. Maybe you can get someone to take your bait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

So you are comparing Elevate with Skywalkers? Skywalkers as a club always produces top notch teams. They are always to be considered among the best across the age groups. Elevate had one pretty good age group many years ago. This age group in particular (2021) for the last few years is way out the back, not even close. Maybe they picked up many major talented players this off season and they will compete???. I heard they were actually trending down, but I guess we will see.

Skywalkers do it right. Their younger teams may start slow, but by the time recruiting comes around they get it going. 2021 is a perfect example. Recruiting time is starting up for the 2021's and just in time, all their hard work, great coaching, and team chemistry has come together to make them the top team in the age group.

That would be a good model for Elevate to follow.

Keep trying with the top team stuff. Post it a few more times. Maybe you can get someone to take your bait.

If it were "bait" you just took it. However, it's not bait, it's a fact. Stay tuned for further details.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you are comparing Elevate with Skywalkers? Skywalkers as a club always produces top notch teams. They are always to be considered among the best across the age groups. Elevate had one pretty good age group many years ago. This age group in particular (2021) for the last few years is way out the back, not even close. Maybe they picked up many major talented players this off season and they will compete???. I heard they were actually trending down, but I guess we will see.

Skywalkers do it right. Their younger teams may start slow, but by the time recruiting comes around they get it going. 2021 is a perfect example. Recruiting time is starting up for the 2021's and just in time, all their hard work, great coaching, and team chemistry has come together to make them the top team in the age group.

That would be a good model for Elevate to follow.

Keep trying with the top team stuff. Post it a few more times. Maybe you can get someone to take your bait.

If it were "bait" you just took it. However, it's not bait, it's a fact. Stay tuned for further details.

Didn't you just lose on Saturday? Be humble and congrats that your daughter won yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

My joke comment was about Elevate beating a mid atlantic team. Get off your high horse SW Dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

My joke comment was about Elevate beating a mid atlantic team. Get off your high horse SW Dad.

No, I understood. Just making the point that some programs have the ability to improve. Perhaps that will be the case with Elevate like it has been with Skywalkers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

My joke comment was about Elevate beating a mid atlantic team. Get off your high horse SW Dad.

No, I understood. Just making the point that some programs have the ability to improve. Perhaps that will be the case with Elevate like it has been with Skywalkers.

I thought Elevate was one of the better teams on LI. I know YJ is good but what are the other good NY teams in this age group?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

Skywalkers 2021 was not good because their best players were all playing up on the 2020 team due to lack of talent on that team. Once those girls moved back down the team improved. If you want to call that good coaching go ahead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

Good coaching is only part of it. The girls on that team also work harder than any other team in the country and have a team chemistry 2nd to none.

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

Skywalkers 2021 was not good because their best players were all playing up on the 2020 team due to lack of talent on that team. Once those girls moved back down the team improved. If you want to call that good coaching go ahead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

Skywalkers 2021 was not good because their best players were all playing up on the 2020 team due to lack of talent on that team. Once those girls moved back down the team improved. If you want to call that good coaching go ahead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

Skywalkers 2021 was not good because their best players were all playing up on the 2020 team due to lack of talent on that team. Once those girls moved back down the team improved. If you want to call that good coaching go ahead.

Good coaching is only part of it. The girls on 21 Blue also have an incredible work ethic and enjoy a team chemistry 2nd to none.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

Good coaching is only part of it. The girls on that team also work harder than any other team in the country and have a team chemistry 2nd to none.

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

Skywalkers 2021 was not good because their best players were all playing up on the 2020 team due to lack of talent on that team. Once those girls moved back down the team improved. If you want to call that good coaching go ahead.

Good coaching is only part of it. The girls on 21 Blue also have an incredible work ethic and enjoy a team chemistry 2nd to none.

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

Must be new to this. YJ doesn't send their actual blue team to fall tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

You won't see team until next spring since rosters don't come out until December. Mid Atlantic does this travel thing much different than most of LI. YJ and TG basically do not team practice at all until spring. They get a few practices in as a team before the summer tournaments start and run a few during the summer season. That is it. At recruiting age those teams will go play a couple fall tournaments, but the team hasn't practiced since July. Sounds like your MD teams take part in much more than what we do.

How exactly are the clubs part of player development if they never practice together ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How exactly are the clubs part of player development if they never practice together ?

Great question and one I cannot answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

Must be new to this. YJ doesn't send their actual blue team to fall tournaments.

I believe the team that will be there this weekend is the 2016 summer blue team plus or minus a few players. If they do get beat up they can't use that as an excuse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

Must be new to this. YJ doesn't send their actual blue team to fall tournaments.

I believe the team that will be there this weekend is the 2016 summer blue team plus or minus a few players. If they do get beat up they can't use that as an excuse.

Why do you believe that? It has never been that way in the past for the fall?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How exactly are the clubs part of player development if they never practice together ?

They are not nearly as big a part as in MD. IMO this is the biggest reason some of the MD clubs are pulling away from the LI clubs.

Quite a few LI clubs have moved to a year round model. but yj and tg have not. Will be interesting to see if they do.

Seems likely they will, after all, a lot of the clubs just tacked on 5 Fall practices and 10 indoor winter practices and raised fees by an extra $1200. Can't imagine many clubs will leave that kind of $$$ on the table.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

No joke. Look how far Skywalkers have come. They have gone from bottom of the "A" division to the best team in the country.

Anything is possible with hard work and Skywalkers are the hardest working team in the country with the best coaching and with team chemistry 2nd to none!!!

My joke comment was about Elevate beating a mid atlantic team. Get off your high horse SW Dad.

No, I understood. Just making the point that some programs have the ability to improve. Perhaps that will be the case with Elevate like it has been with Skywalkers.

I thought Elevate was one of the better teams on LI. I know YJ is good but what are the other good NY teams in this age group?

Next to YJ, Liberty is the team who made the biggest upgrades to their roster. Look at them to be number 2 on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

Must be new to this. YJ doesn't send their actual blue team to fall tournaments.

I believe the team that will be there this weekend is the 2016 summer blue team plus or minus a few players. If they do get beat up they can't use that as an excuse.

Why do you believe that? It has never been that way in the past for the fall?

20 of the 24 rostered are from the summer YJ A team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

Must be new to this. YJ doesn't send their actual blue team to fall tournaments.

I believe the team that will be there this weekend is the 2016 summer blue team plus or minus a few players. If they do get beat up they can't use that as an excuse.

Why do you believe that? It has never been that way in the past for the fall?

20 of the 24 rostered are from the summer YJ A team.

A true Intense Lax Dad has good research skills and is willing to put in the time. Nicely done!

Elevate would be the bottom director only cares about money not the girks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elevate would be the bottom director only cares about money not the girks

a bit angry at your club? holding the red cup too tight?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is all pretty amusing. So much excitement over a team losing a 25 minute game. Md United beat them in a 25 minute game a couple years ago. It happens. What's more amazing is that it didn't happen sooner. All of you on here saying that girls didn't play are missing the fact that those girls are the reason they are almost impossible to beat in a full game. The top 10 girls or so on the top teams are pretty comparable. Where M&D gets you is when they sub there is very little drop off. No teams do much subbing in 25 min games. There's no need.

If there were middle school lacrosse history books, there would be a chapter about the fabled M&D 21 team.

If.

Maybe the first two chapters, four years to go, a lot of lacrosse left. Teams like SW and TLC improved quite a bit during August. The Great 8 will be very interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is all pretty amusing. So much excitement over a team losing a 25 minute game. Md United beat them in a 25 minute game a couple years ago. It happens. What's more amazing is that it didn't happen sooner. All of you on here saying that girls didn't play are missing the fact that those girls are the reason they are almost impossible to beat in a full game. The top 10 girls or so on the top teams are pretty comparable. Where M&D gets you is when they sub there is very little drop off. No teams do much subbing in 25 min games. There's no need.

If there were middle school lacrosse history books, there would be a chapter about the fabled M&D 21 team.

If.

Maybe the first two chapters, four years to go, a lot of lacrosse left. Teams like SW and TLC improved quite a bit during August. The Great 8 will be very interesting.

There's really one year to go. Once they get to high school things change.

And TLC? Stars didn't have much trouble with them at Young Guns. Can't imagine they added enough to compete with the top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

Must be new to this. YJ doesn't send their actual blue team to fall tournaments.

No off rosters kids have ever been allowed to play with the curcio 2020 team unless it was part of an unofficial tryout for 2-3 kids battling for a spot - no "B" teamers are going to pollute that squad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing the new and improved Yellow Jacket team. We'll see Sunday as they play Hero's, Skywalkers, and M&D. Now that is getting your season started with a bang

Must be new to this. YJ doesn't send their actual blue team to fall tournaments.

I believe the team that will be there this weekend is the 2016 summer blue team plus or minus a few players. If they do get beat up they can't use that as an excuse.

Why do you believe that? It has never been that way in the past for the fall?

20 of the 24 rostered are from the summer YJ A team.

A true Intense Lax Dad has good research skills and is willing to put in the time. Nicely done!

Actually it's 21 of 23 so we better not hear anything about this not being the real YJA team. 20 of 24 is the day before

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elevate would be the bottom director only cares about money not the girks

2021 team is a good solid team and no drama. Definitely not the bottom.

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

We will see how good as they play M&D, Skywalkers, and Hero's this weekend. Any guesses on the results?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

We will see how good as they play M&D, Skywalkers, and Hero's this weekend. Any guesses on the results?

Who cares, they are out playing the best and can't say that for other LI clubs. Besides last I checked, the other best team in the universe (YJA) didn't fair to well agaisnt these teams either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

We will see how good as they play M&D, Skywalkers, and Hero's this weekend. Any guesses on the results?

Who cares, they are out playing the best and can't say that for other LI clubs. Besides last I checked, the other best team in the universe (YJA) didn't fair to well agaisnt these teams either.

Elevate will not beat M&D or SW. They have a chance against Hero's as hero's tends to fall apart second half.

The girls and parents are great it's just Dave you should worry about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

We will see how good as they play M&D, Skywalkers, and Hero's this weekend. Any guesses on the results?

Who cares, they are out playing the best and can't say that for other LI clubs. Besides last I checked, the other best team in the universe (YJA) didn't fair to well agaisnt these teams either.

Elevate will not beat M&D or SW. They have a chance against Hero's as hero's tends to fall apart second half.

Would it be safe to say M&D and SW are the no 1 and 2 teams right now at this age level?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

We will see how good as they play M&D, Skywalkers, and Hero's this weekend. Any guesses on the results?

Who cares, they are out playing the best and can't say that for other LI clubs. Besides last I checked, the other best team in the universe (YJA) didn't fair to well agaisnt these teams either.

Elevate will not beat M&D or SW. They have a chance against Hero's as hero's tends to fall apart second half.

Would it be safe to say M&D and SW are the no 1 and 2 teams right now at this age level?

By the logic of " what have you done lately " which seems to be the measuring stick on this site, it would be SW#1, M&D #2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

We will see how good as they play M&D, Skywalkers, and Hero's this weekend. Any guesses on the results?

Who cares, they are out playing the best and can't say that for other LI clubs. Besides last I checked, the other best team in the universe (YJA) didn't fair to well agaisnt these teams either.

Elevate will not beat M&D or SW. They have a chance against Hero's as hero's tends to fall apart second half.

Would it be safe to say M&D and SW are the no 1 and 2 teams right now at this age level?

I would be willing to go out on a limb and say yes.

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

Agree. M&D is the best team and will likely remain the best team. A loss here and there does not change that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

Skywalkers have moved to number one. Given their top notch coaching, hard work, and unrivaled team chemistry, they look to remain in that spot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

Skywalkers have moved to number one. Given their top notch coaching, hard work, and unrivaled team chemistry, they look to remain in that spot.

I thought it was "2nd to none" chemistry ...Im now rooting for M&D just because you are such a schmuck .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

YJ has the toughest schedule playing both SW and M&D. Both M&D and SW only play one of the others, not both. But the two just played this past weekend so I guess we use that result and M&D is 0-1 and SW is 1-0 headed into this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

Skywalkers have moved to number one. Given their top notch coaching, hard work, and unrivaled team chemistry, they look to remain in that spot.

I thought it was "2nd to none" chemistry ...Im now rooting for M&D just because you are such a schmuck .

I am rooting for M&D too. Our girls need somebody to step up and provide competition or else they will not get better. I am thinking M&D is the most likely team to do that in the area so, I agree, go M&D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

YJ has the toughest schedule playing both SW and M&D. Both M&D and SW only play one of the others, not both. But the two just played this past weekend so I guess we use that result and M&D is 0-1 and SW is 1-0 headed into this weekend.

UK are only playing Sunday. The tournament director I am sure wanted to make it worth their while with some solid competition. The girls will be tested this weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

YJ has the toughest schedule playing both SW and M&D. Both M&D and SW only play one of the others, not both. But the two just played this past weekend so I guess we use that result and M&D is 0-1 and SW is 1-0 headed into this weekend.

It s actually 1-1 last weekend. M&D win full game in pool party 10-7 and SW won championship 4-2 in short game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

YJ has the toughest schedule playing both SW and M&D. Both M&D and SW only play one of the others, not both. But the two just played this past weekend so I guess we use that result and M&D is 0-1 and SW is 1-0 headed into this weekend.

It s actually 1-1 last weekend. M&D win full game in pool party 10-7 and SW won championship 4-2 in short game.

YJ will travel down to MD this weekend with last years team plus 2 new players. Cuts have not been made yet. With 24 rostered players it will be tough to shorten the bench in tough games as all teams admittedly do . ( Every game on Sunday should be tough,that's why you go down to MD.)

Great information posted on another page that will help the 21 parents that are new to recruiting with some insight into the process...

"What are the grades that a kid actually needs to get into certain schools?"

- It all depends on where the coach has the player ranked on their recruiting list. The #1 recruit on the list will not have the same requirements as the # 8.

The Ivy's work off of an "academic index" there are minimum requirements for each individual. However, the average for the recruiting class is significantly higher than the minimum therefore if a priority recruit is close to the minimum the coach will take a less qualified player if they have better grades (in order to pull the class average up).

Other Highly Competitive Schools such as Duke, Georgetown, BC, ND etc... have what are known as "Slots". The coach has the ability to get a certain number of players into the school. In general, those students must have very good grades but the requirements are less than a regular student would need to get into the school. For a recruited athlete the coach would like to see 90+ avg and a minimum of 1200 on the SAT and 27 ACT. Anything less would be cause for concern. Again, the coach will have more flexibility with their top recruits.

From what I have been told, Northwestern does not have a cap on admission slots but they follow similar guideline as to who they choose to get into the school.

Remember, the coaches want the kids to be successful both on the field and in the classroom. Coaches will only take so many chances with players who do not demonstrate that they have the ability to succeed in the classroom.

As far as scholarship dollars go, don't listen to anyone. Each individual case is different. The Top recruits at fully funded schools are offered significant $$. The #1 recruit might get 75% or more, the #5 might get 25-30% and the #9 or #10 might be offered an admission slot and no athletic scholarship.
Each case is different.

If finances and cost are your biggest concern explore all options. If your daughter is a good student and a good lacrosse player you should be able to find a school that will be able to make it work financially.

If your daughter is a great student and a great lacrosse player she can write her own ticked to any school she wants. if your daughter is great student and an ok lacrosse player she can fide a school that will give her a lot of academic $$. If your daughter is a great lacrosse player and an average student she will be just fine as well, some really good schools will give plenty of athletic $$.

Ivy's do not offer athletic scholarships. (they have very generous need based aid).

Schools like Northwestens, Georgetown, Hopkins, ND, BC also offer generous need based aid packages. (they also offer athletic scholarships)

To the best of my knowledge you can not combine Athletic $$ and Need Based Aid. You can however combine Academic $$ and Athletic $$.

If your daughter is being recruited and offered a spot at North Carolina, Maryland, Penn State and Syracuse but not being offered a lot of $$ you can drop down a notch and be offered a lot more $$. It works the same way on the Academic side. If your daughter has the grades to be recruited and offered a spot and an Ivy you can drop down a bit academically and pick up significant academic $$.

DII and DIII have different rules than DI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

YJ has the toughest schedule playing both SW and M&D. Both M&D and SW only play one of the others, not both. But the two just played this past weekend so I guess we use that result and M&D is 0-1 and SW is 1-0 headed into this weekend.

It s actually 1-1 last weekend. M&D win full game in pool party 10-7 and SW won championship 4-2 in short game.

YJ will travel down to MD this weekend with last years team plus 2 new players. Cuts have not been made yet. With 24 rostered players it will be tough to shorten the bench in tough games as all teams admittedly do . ( Every game on Sunday should be tough,that's why you go down to MD.)

Not sure what point your trying to make about not shortening the bench? Is there that much of a drop off on this team between lines? Sounds like you already have your excuse ready to go

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my prediction for this weekend's records at the Chesapeake Tourney:

M&D 3-1
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 3-1
YJ 2-1

M&D 4-0
Heros 2-2
Skywalkers 4-0
YJ 1-2

M&D is still the top team in the country. Sky walkers can move to #1 by going undefeated this weekend and by winning the Mid Atlantic showcase the next week. Until they beat M&D a second time M&D is still the top dog

YJ has the toughest schedule playing both SW and M&D. Both M&D and SW only play one of the others, not both. But the two just played this past weekend so I guess we use that result and M&D is 0-1 and SW is 1-0 headed into this weekend.

It s actually 1-1 last weekend. M&D win full game in pool party 10-7 and SW won championship 4-2 in short game.

YJ will travel down to MD this weekend with last years team plus 2 new players. Cuts have not been made yet. With 24 rostered players it will be tough to shorten the bench in tough games as all teams admittedly do . ( Every game on Sunday should be tough,that's why you go down to MD.)

Not sure what point your trying to make about not shortening the bench? Is there that much of a drop off on this team between lines? Sounds like you already have your excuse ready to go

There is a drop off on every team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

Elevate will take down many of the MD teams this weekend - just watch! If you miss it, DK will post it all online for you to see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That M+D team is excellent and will continue to be the best team in the country. The best thing that could have happened to them is for the other teams in the mid Atlantic to get good enough to give them a real game and beat them occasionally. All the girls will be better for it. It will be interesting to see how the mid Atlantic teams play against YJ and Elevate this weekend.

Is this a joke? Elevate?

NO JOKE - ELevate will take down SW, Heros and Integrity this weekend and will go 3-1. M&D will be a tough game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DK cares about the girls. Enough with your nonsense. Team is real good. And exactly no drama.

Elevate will take down many of the MD teams this weekend - just watch! If you miss it, DK will post it all online for you to see.

Whatever. May beat Integrity. Best case is 1-3.. They aren't beating M&D, SW or Heros. Not happening.

Which is elevates top team, red or blue?

Just go to the Maryland and Vicinity
thread. Y Freaking hijacking the thread again.

YJ will travel down to MD this weekend with last years team plus 2 new players. Cuts have not been made yet. With 24 rostered players it will be tough to shorten the bench in tough games as all teams admittedly do . ( Every game on Sunday should be tough,that's why you go down to MD.) [/quote]

Not sure what point your trying to make about not shortening the bench? Is there that much of a drop off on this team between lines? Sounds like you already have your excuse ready to go [/quote]

There is a drop off on every team [/quote]

I think the good news is the weather will be good on Sunday and the bottom half won't get cold watching Sundays games from the bench. Parent coach already knows who is being dropped from the team and won't care about hurting anyone's feelings.

Red or blue top team?

No parent on elevate would say we are taken down all the Maryland teams. Someone stirring the pot. Those Maryland teams are top notch. Hopefully they can give them a good game.

Blue is A

Thanks

Agree elevate would be a better place without Dave k

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great information posted on another page that will help the 21 parents that are new to recruiting with some insight into the process...

"What are the grades that a kid actually needs to get into certain schools?"

- It all depends on where the coach has the player ranked on their recruiting list. The #1 recruit on the list will not have the same requirements as the # 8.

The Ivy's work off of an "academic index" there are minimum requirements for each individual. However, the average for the recruiting class is significantly higher than the minimum therefore if a priority recruit is close to the minimum the coach will take a less qualified player if they have better grades (in order to pull the class average up).

Other Highly Competitive Schools such as Duke, Georgetown, BC, ND etc... have what are known as "Slots". The coach has the ability to get a certain number of players into the school. In general, those students must have very good grades but the requirements are less than a regular student would need to get into the school. For a recruited athlete the coach would like to see 90+ avg and a minimum of 1200 on the SAT and 27 ACT. Anything less would be cause for concern. Again, the coach will have more flexibility with their top recruits.

From what I have been told, Northwestern does not have a cap on admission slots but they follow similar guideline as to who they choose to get into the school.

Remember, the coaches want the kids to be successful both on the field and in the classroom. Coaches will only take so many chances with players who do not demonstrate that they have the ability to succeed in the classroom.

As far as scholarship dollars go, don't listen to anyone. Each individual case is different. The Top recruits at fully funded schools are offered significant $$. The #1 recruit might get 75% or more, the #5 might get 25-30% and the #9 or #10 might be offered an admission slot and no athletic scholarship.
Each case is different.

If finances and cost are your biggest concern explore all options. If your daughter is a good student and a good lacrosse player you should be able to find a school that will be able to make it work financially.

If your daughter is a great student and a great lacrosse player she can write her own ticked to any school she wants. if your daughter is great student and an ok lacrosse player she can fide a school that will give her a lot of academic $$. If your daughter is a great lacrosse player and an average student she will be just fine as well, some really good schools will give plenty of athletic $$.

Ivy's do not offer athletic scholarships. (they have very generous need based aid).

Schools like Northwestens, Georgetown, Hopkins, ND, BC also offer generous need based aid packages. (they also offer athletic scholarships)

To the best of my knowledge you can not combine Athletic $$ and Need Based Aid. You can however combine Academic $$ and Athletic $$.

If your daughter is being recruited and offered a spot at North Carolina, Maryland, Penn State and Syracuse but not being offered a lot of $$ you can drop down a notch and be offered a lot more $$. It works the same way on the Academic side. If your daughter has the grades to be recruited and offered a spot and an Ivy you can drop down a bit academically and pick up significant academic $$.

DII and DIII have different rules than DI.

GREAT information. Thank you for sharing.

Guess Skywalkers chemistry wasn't second to none today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess Skywalkers chemistry wasn't second to none today

After hearing about their win against M&D I thought I would check them out today. They are overrated. Obviously the chemistry comment was tongue in cheek. They looked weak today in the two games I saw. Monster and Stars both deserved to win. Skywalker's defense is very good, fast, physical. They can't clear the ball. No defined clear like M&D has. The players are randomly running around. Tough job for the goalie whose stickwork is limited. Vulnerable to turnovers. The offense is non existent beyond some very good middies freelancing. No pattern, no passing, no assists. Is there any coaching going on? I did not see an assist in two games. Not impressed with them at all. Bad day huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess Skywalkers chemistry wasn't second to none today

After hearing about their win against M&D I thought I would check them out today. They are overrated. Obviously the chemistry comment was tongue in cheek. They looked weak today in the two games I saw. Monster and Stars both deserved to win. Skywalker's defense is very good, fast, physical. They can't clear the ball. No defined clear like M&D has. The players are randomly running around. Tough job for the goalie whose stickwork is limited. Vulnerable to turnovers. The offense is non existent beyond some very good middies freelancing. No pattern, no passing, no assists. Is there any coaching going on? I did not see an assist in two games. Not impressed with them at all. Bad day huh?

I think the attack has some solid parts. They never touched the ball. Beyond the three middie superstars the stickwork is very limited. They can't throw or catch in transition. They can run it down the field like rec lacrosse, but not through the air. Bad day agreed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess Skywalkers chemistry wasn't second to none today

After hearing about their win against M&D I thought I would check them out today. They are overrated. Obviously the chemistry comment was tongue in cheek. They looked weak today in the two games I saw. Monster and Stars both deserved to win. Skywalker's defense is very good, fast, physical. They can't clear the ball. No defined clear like M&D has. The players are randomly running around. Tough job for the goalie whose stickwork is limited. Vulnerable to turnovers. The offense is non existent beyond some very good middies freelancing. No pattern, no passing, no assists. Is there any coaching going on? I did not see an assist in two games. Not impressed with them at all. Bad day huh?

I agree. They turn the ball over way too much. Poor stick work limits clears and transition ball movement.lots of one on one lacrosse. Coaching appears to be very weak. New coach maybe?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess Skywalkers chemistry wasn't second to none today

After hearing about their win against M&D I thought I would check them out today. They are overrated. Obviously the chemistry comment was tongue in cheek. They looked weak today in the two games I saw. Monster and Stars both deserved to win. Skywalker's defense is very good, fast, physical. They can't clear the ball. No defined clear like M&D has. The players are randomly running around. Tough job for the goalie whose stickwork is limited. Vulnerable to turnovers. The offense is non existent beyond some very good middies freelancing. No pattern, no passing, no assists. Is there any coaching going on? I did not see an assist in two games. Not impressed with them at all. Bad day huh?

What do you mean? Don't you know they have top notch coaching, work the hardest and their chemistry is second to none? #WEBEATM&D

Heros had another "close but no cigar" against M&D.

No mention of YJ or Elevate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess Skywalkers chemistry wasn't second to none today

After hearing about their win against M&D I thought I would check them out today. They are overrated. Obviously the chemistry comment was tongue in cheek. They looked weak today in the two games I saw. Monster and Stars both deserved to win. Skywalker's defense is very good, fast, physical. They can't clear the ball. No defined clear like M&D has. The players are randomly running around. Tough job for the goalie whose stickwork is limited. Vulnerable to turnovers. The offense is non existent beyond some very good middies freelancing. No pattern, no passing, no assists. Is there any coaching going on? I did not see an assist in two games. Not impressed with them at all. Bad day huh?

Think that's a little harsh. What it proves is how amazing it is that M&D went as long as they did without losing. There are several good teams at this age. And Monster took M&D to overtime at Lax for the Cure last summer so not surprising they played Skywalkers tough. All these teams can beat each other on any given day which is why the Skywalkers girls/parents should have been a little more humble after last Sunday.

Heros looked great again yesterday. Not bad being the second best team in an age group. Their passing and team work is fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros looked great again yesterday. Not bad being the second best team in an age group. Their passing and team work is fun to watch.

Agree with coach Cha's effectiveness. The team does move the ball admirably. They have also lost to Skywalkers twice this Fall. M&D #1, SW #2, Heros #3, YJ #4, Stars #5, Monster #6.

Can't wait to see the YJ vs. M&D matchup today. That should clear things up a bit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see the YJ vs. M&D matchup today. That should clear things up a bit

Any updates? Should be about halftime.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros looked great again yesterday. Not bad being the second best team in an age group. Their passing and team work is fun to watch.

Agree with coach Cha's effectiveness. The team does move the ball admirably. They have also lost to Skywalkers twice this Fall. M&D #1, SW #2, Heros #3, YJ #4, Stars #5, Monster #6.

YJ lose all three MD games. They are still 4th best team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros looked great again yesterday. Not bad being the second best team in an age group. Their passing and team work is fun to watch.

Agree with coach Cha's effectiveness. The team does move the ball admirably. They have also lost to Skywalkers twice this Fall. M&D #1, SW #2, Heros #3, YJ #4, Stars #5, Monster #6.

YJ lose all three MD games. They are still 4th best team

4th best? You're being generous. But, I love that they went 0-3. Can't compete against MD teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see the YJ vs. M&D matchup today. That should clear things up a bit

Any updates? Should be about halftime.

YJ lost all three games today by a goal. If they are being honest though, they weren't really that close. They were down several goals in all games and scored some late ones to get it close. The girls in MD are receiving coaching that the YJ girls clearly aren't. They have the horses, but not the plan. The end game is to get recruited, not win games, so they will be fine, but the difference in coaching is glaring.

YJ and Elevate 1-6! Thanks for coming

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see the YJ vs. M&D matchup today. That should clear things up a bit

Any updates? Should be about halftime.

YJ lost all three games today by a goal. If they are being honest though, they weren't really that close. They were down several goals in all games and scored some late ones to get it close. The girls in MD are receiving coaching that the YJ girls clearly aren't. They have the horses, but not the plan. The end game is to get recruited, not win games, so they will be fine, but the difference in coaching is glaring.

Yep! Exactly why we left

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ and Elevate 1-6! Thanks for coming

Did Elevate have any close games?

What pompous asses you Maryland people are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What pompous asses you Maryland people are!

Consistently losing to teams that you consider to be inferior has got to sting.

ILD is very, very proud. Someday, when his daughter is majoring in General Studies at Public U., this will be the only thing he has left to hang his hat on, so please, in the meantime, let him spread his gossamer wings and fly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What pompous asses you Maryland people are!

That is really a funny statement comming from a Y.J. supporter..... andI live on L.I.

Welcome to YJ daddy lacrosse. You have 2 daddy coaches ,one is there just to try and help and is only there when the actual coach is not . The other daddy coach is an anchor that will drag that team down . First time I have heard of a YJ top team putting up a goose egg for a tournament . He has zero idea what he is doing and has never been successful as a coach . Will essentially do what I hear he has done before which is to take a successful team , add in friends and family , coach them up by teaching them the exact wrong way to play , force feed his angel and her friends . To the parents with kids on that team , run or speak up and demand a real coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see the YJ vs. M&D matchup today. That should clear things up a bit

Any updates? Should be about halftime.

YJ lost all three games today by a goal. If they are being honest though, they weren't really that close. They were down several goals in all games and scored some late ones to get it close. The girls in MD are receiving coaching that the YJ girls clearly aren't. They have the horses, but not the plan. The end game is to get recruited, not win games, so they will be fine, but the difference in coaching is glaring.

Let's sum up what I saw today; they struggled to win the draw, their middies couldn't play defense and they turned over the ball way too many times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What pompous asses you Maryland people are!

It's being pompous to state that YJ is not a well coached team? Do you really disagree?

Based on what I saw....
1 mnd
2 heros
3 skywalkers
4 stars
5 yj

Elevate didn't show up.

Just the way u handle yourselves. And not from yj.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just the way u handle yourselves. And not from yj.

I can understand your frustration Elevate dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ and Elevate 1-6! Thanks for coming

Did Elevate have any close games?

All scores are available on Tourney Machine - check it out and report back to us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What pompous asses you Maryland people are!

It's being pompous to state that YJ is not a well coached team? Do you really disagree?

Maybe it's more than just team coaching coaching. From watching this team a few years, it seems that each year we play them they struggle with the draw. As a matter of fact I have yet to see a LI team at this age who has a half-way decent draw girl or game.

As far as this team goes, it seems that they were all exceptionally advanced athletes that the other girls are now just catching up to. They always played a very fast athletic game, with little strategy. Now that they other teams have girls who are beginning to equal them and catch up athletically this area of advantage has become more level. You will see other teams passing them in the coming year as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ and Elevate 1-6! Thanks for coming

Did Elevate have any close games?

All scores are available on Tourney Machine - check it out and report back to us.

Which team is YJ A? Blue or Gold?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ and Elevate 1-6! Thanks for coming

Did Elevate have any close games?

All scores are available on Tourney Machine - check it out and report back to us.

Which team is YJ A? Blue or Gold?

Blue is A, Gold was the B team. Gold was the only team that won, Blue was 0-3. To be fair, Blue played an insane schedule. Heroes, Skywalkers then M&D, that's some lineup.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros looked great again yesterday. Not bad being the second best team in an age group. Their passing and team work is fun to watch.

Agree with coach Cha's effectiveness. The team does move the ball admirably. They have also lost to Skywalkers twice this Fall. M&D #1, SW #2, Heros #3, YJ #4, Stars #5, Monster #6.

YJ lose all three MD games. They are still 4th best team

Tough to argue your logic ,when you lose all of your games. Lots of work for our girls to put in. I wouldn't write em off just yet.
A YJ Parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on what I saw....
1 mnd
2 heros
3 skywalkers
4 stars
5 yj

Elevate didn't show up.

What do you mean? Elevate was there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on what I saw....
1 mnd
2 heros
3 skywalkers
4 stars
5 yj

Elevate didn't show up.

What do you mean? Elevate was there.

Assume they meant that they weren't competitive against the good MD teams. They did beat Integrity though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros looked great again yesterday. Not bad being the second best team in an age group. Their passing and team work is fun to watch.

Agree with coach Cha's effectiveness. The team does move the ball admirably. They have also lost to Skywalkers twice this Fall. M&D #1, SW #2, Heros #3, YJ #4, Stars #5, Monster #6.

YJ lose all three MD games. They are still 4th best team

Tough to argue your logic ,when you lose all of your games. Lots of work for our girls to put in. I wouldn't write em off just yet.
A YJ Parent.

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

Asked and answered but essentially you have a coach who was the assistant who by virtue of the actual head coach not being around is now the head coach. He knows nothing about lacrosse and does the friends and family thing and will continue to destroy the ability and chemistry of this team as he has done before.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

Asked and answered but essentially you have a coach who was the assistant who by virtue of the actual head coach not being around is now the head coach. He knows nothing about lacrosse and does the friends and family thing and will continue to destroy the ability and chemistry of this team as he has done before.

From a Skywalker parent. The YJ team we played yesterday is excellent. New goalie is really good and makes their one two goalie tandem as good as any club team in the country. Solid athletes in all positions with a big league lefty attacker that can score or assist at will. Losing by a goal to the three best MD teams is tough, but an indication of darn good things to come. See you next Summer for some more great ball to watch. Thanks for coming down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on what I saw....
1 mnd
2 heros
3 skywalkers
4 stars
5 yj

Elevate didn't show up.

SW beat Heros last week. Though they play ugly, they still should be rated ahead of Heros

Enough, go on the Maryland and vicinity thread.

Who the [lacrosse] cares about your tournaments except you chest-thumping assclowns?

The U.S. Census Bureau has defined the Northeast region as comprising nine states: from northeast to southwest, they are�Maine,�New Hampshire,�Vermont,�Massachusetts,�Rhode Island,�Connecticut,�New [lacrosse],�New Jersey, and�Pennsylvania.

Go to Maryland and Vicinity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on what I saw....
1 mnd
2 heros
3 skywalkers
4 stars
5 yj

Elevate didn't show up.

SW beat Heros last week. Though they play ugly, they still should be rated ahead of Heros

1 mnd
2 skywalkers
3 heros
4 stars
5 yj

There, feel better now? Now a different anonymous poster said your daughter's 8th grade lacrosse team is one spot better than somebody else's in a meaningless ranking. Hope you can sleep better tonight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The U.S. Census Bureau has defined the Northeast region as comprising nine states: from northeast to southwest, they are�Maine,�New Hampshire,�Vermont,�Massachusetts,�Rhode Island,�Connecticut,�New [lacrosse],�New Jersey, and�Pennsylvania.

Go to Maryland and Vicinity.

Waaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!

What pertinent information from the NE would you like to post? YJ and Elevate were in MD this weekend? You rather discuss Beach Bums back goalie?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

Asked and answered but essentially you have a coach who was the assistant who by virtue of the actual head coach not being around is now the head coach. He knows nothing about lacrosse and does the friends and family thing and will continue to destroy the ability and chemistry of this team as he has done before.

From a Skywalker parent. The YJ team we played yesterday is excellent. New goalie is really good and makes their one two goalie tandem as good as any club team in the country. Solid athletes in all positions with a big league lefty attacker that can score or assist at will. Losing by a goal to the three best MD teams is tough, but an indication of darn good things to come. See you next Summer for some more great ball to watch. Thanks for coming down

Thanks YJ daddy coach , at will so are we to assume just not willing to do it 2 more times in each game . Remember stop using those meds they are not for you .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

Asked and answered but essentially you have a coach who was the assistant who by virtue of the actual head coach not being around is now the head coach. He knows nothing about lacrosse and does the friends and family thing and will continue to destroy the ability and chemistry of this team as he has done before.

From a Skywalker parent. The YJ team we played yesterday is excellent. New goalie is really good and makes their one two goalie tandem as good as any club team in the country. Solid athletes in all positions with a big league lefty attacker that can score or assist at will. Losing by a goal to the three best MD teams is tough, but an indication of darn good things to come. See you next Summer for some more great ball to watch. Thanks for coming down

Great to come down and play the 3 best teams in the nation. All great games and intense competition. YJ has beaten and lost to all three of these teams and will likely swap wins and loses for the rest of the way out. I would say that all these teams plus stars could win against the others on any given day. The chest pounding, team ranking, mud slinging is all just silly. At the end of the day we know exactly who the best teams are and we purposely attend the events in order to play them. Yes three losses by a total of three goals is not the results we hoped for, but the extremely competitive play is exactly what we hoped for. There is some ridiculous talent sprinkled throughout these teams and it was great to see and fun to watch. We play so many ridiculously uncompetitive games throughout the year that makes a tournament like this so awesome, win or lose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

Asked and answered but essentially you have a coach who was the assistant who by virtue of the actual head coach not being around is now the head coach. He knows nothing about lacrosse and does the friends and family thing and will continue to destroy the ability and chemistry of this team as he has done before.

From a Skywalker parent. The YJ team we played yesterday is excellent. New goalie is really good and makes their one two goalie tandem as good as any club team in the country. Solid athletes in all positions with a big league lefty attacker that can score or assist at will. Losing by a goal to the three best MD teams is tough, but an indication of darn good things to come. See you next Summer for some more great ball to watch. Thanks for coming down

Great to come down and play the 3 best teams in the nation. All great games and intense competition. YJ has beaten and lost to all three of these teams and will likely swap wins and loses for the rest of the way out. I would say that all these teams plus stars could win against the others on any given day. The chest pounding, team ranking, mud slinging is all just silly. At the end of the day we know exactly who the best teams are and we purposely attend the events in order to play them. Yes three losses by a total of three goals is not the results we hoped for, but the extremely competitive play is exactly what we hoped for. There is some ridiculous talent sprinkled throughout these teams and it was great to see and fun to watch. We play so many ridiculously uncompetitive games throughout the year that makes a tournament like this so awesome, win or lose.

Keep congratulating yourselves. You guys are pathetic with the ridiculous talent thing , get over yourselves . The good news is your 2021 YJ team now takes the top spot for worst top YJ team in history.

Did monster wear the new cascade helmets? If so, any opinion on how they worked out for the girls?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

Asked and answered but essentially you have a coach who was the assistant who by virtue of the actual head coach not being around is now the head coach. He knows nothing about lacrosse and does the friends and family thing and will continue to destroy the ability and chemistry of this team as he has done before.

From a Skywalker parent. The YJ team we played yesterday is excellent. New goalie is really good and makes their one two goalie tandem as good as any club team in the country. Solid athletes in all positions with a big league lefty attacker that can score or assist at will. Losing by a goal to the three best MD teams is tough, but an indication of darn good things to come. See you next Summer for some more great ball to watch. Thanks for coming down

Great to come down and play the 3 best teams in the nation. All great games and intense competition. YJ has beaten and lost to all three of these teams and will likely swap wins and loses for the rest of the way out. I would say that all these teams plus stars could win against the others on any given day. The chest pounding, team ranking, mud slinging is all just silly. At the end of the day we know exactly who the best teams are and we purposely attend the events in order to play them. Yes three losses by a total of three goals is not the results we hoped for, but the extremely competitive play is exactly what we hoped for. There is some ridiculous talent sprinkled throughout these teams and it was great to see and fun to watch. We play so many ridiculously uncompetitive games throughout the year that makes a tournament like this so awesome, win or lose.

Even when a YJ parent is trying to be "humble" they still have to lie. YJ lost to M&D by 3 goals alone. The others were one goal games, but wasn't even close in MD game. Why lie?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

Asked and answered but essentially you have a coach who was the assistant who by virtue of the actual head coach not being around is now the head coach. He knows nothing about lacrosse and does the friends and family thing and will continue to destroy the ability and chemistry of this team as he has done before.

From a Skywalker parent. The YJ team we played yesterday is excellent. New goalie is really good and makes their one two goalie tandem as good as any club team in the country. Solid athletes in all positions with a big league lefty attacker that can score or assist at will. Losing by a goal to the three best MD teams is tough, but an indication of darn good things to come. See you next Summer for some more great ball to watch. Thanks for coming down

Great to come down and play the 3 best teams in the nation. All great games and intense competition. YJ has beaten and lost to all three of these teams and will likely swap wins and loses for the rest of the way out. I would say that all these teams plus stars could win against the others on any given day. The chest pounding, team ranking, mud slinging is all just silly. At the end of the day we know exactly who the best teams are and we purposely attend the events in order to play them. Yes three losses by a total of three goals is not the results we hoped for, but the extremely competitive play is exactly what we hoped for. There is some ridiculous talent sprinkled throughout these teams and it was great to see and fun to watch. We play so many ridiculously uncompetitive games throughout the year that makes a tournament like this so awesome, win or lose.

Keep congratulating yourselves. You guys are pathetic with the ridiculous talent thing , get over yourselves . The good news is your 2021 YJ team now takes the top spot for worst top YJ team in history.

It is great to see all the mentioned teams at a single venue. And the talent on the field IS ridiculous! Sorry it sounds very much like your daughter is not on one of these teams. And hey, there are plenty of talented players playing on other teams, If your daughter is one of them, great, good for you. But don't hate and try to deny the talent of these other girls on these other teams. Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams. Hating on them will not change that.

Yes they did. We found that it didn't make the game more physical, as some expect. It actually helped ref hear any type of head contact, that would normally be missed in a crowd, resulting in a few more calls.
I asked a few of the players after the game what they thought of them, and they were all very positive about using it. They admitted it did take a bit getting used too, but over all they don't mind playing with it.
It will be interesting to see how many other teams accept it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought this was supposed to be the super team from LI?? what happened?

Asked and answered but essentially you have a coach who was the assistant who by virtue of the actual head coach not being around is now the head coach. He knows nothing about lacrosse and does the friends and family thing and will continue to destroy the ability and chemistry of this team as he has done before.

From a Skywalker parent. The YJ team we played yesterday is excellent. New goalie is really good and makes their one two goalie tandem as good as any club team in the country. Solid athletes in all positions with a big league lefty attacker that can score or assist at will. Losing by a goal to the three best MD teams is tough, but an indication of darn good things to come. See you next Summer for some more great ball to watch. Thanks for coming down

Great to come down and play the 3 best teams in the nation. All great games and intense competition. YJ has beaten and lost to all three of these teams and will likely swap wins and loses for the rest of the way out. I would say that all these teams plus stars could win against the others on any given day. The chest pounding, team ranking, mud slinging is all just silly. At the end of the day we know exactly who the best teams are and we purposely attend the events in order to play them. Yes three losses by a total of three goals is not the results we hoped for, but the extremely competitive play is exactly what we hoped for. There is some ridiculous talent sprinkled throughout these teams and it was great to see and fun to watch. We play so many ridiculously uncompetitive games throughout the year that makes a tournament like this so awesome, win or lose.

Even when a YJ parent is trying to be "humble" they still have to lie. YJ lost to M&D by 3 goals alone. The others were one goal games, but wasn't even close in MD game. Why lie?

.

So here is your problem, it was a one goal game. They made an error entering the score in the tourny machine app, unfortunate for stalkers like you trying to make your point when in fact you have no idea what you are talking about. Never close is another indication of you ignorance, they were up by multiple goals at one point. Not looking for a fight with the M&D parents. You are a great team and the better team won, hats off to them. This is in response to a parent who clearly is not from either team and has no idea what they are talking about. Sad person.

"It is great to see all the mentioned teams at a single venue. And the talent on the field IS ridiculous! Sorry it sounds very much like your daughter is not on one of these teams. And hey, there are plenty of talented players playing on other teams, If your daughter is one of them, great, good for you. But don't hate and try to deny the talent of these other girls on these other teams. Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams. Hating on them will not change that."

Here is the issue you are just an ignorant pompous person and it shows in everything you write.You think most of the who's who will come from those four teams is the icing on the cake. Go look at the defending national champs and see how many off that team are from those teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"It is great to see all the mentioned teams at a single venue. And the talent on the field IS ridiculous! Sorry it sounds very much like your daughter is not on one of these teams. And hey, there are plenty of talented players playing on other teams, If your daughter is one of them, great, good for you. But don't hate and try to deny the talent of these other girls on these other teams. Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams. Hating on them will not change that."

Here is the issue you are just an ignorant pompous person and it shows in everything you write.You think most of the who's who will come from those four teams is the icing on the cake. Go look at the defending national champs and see how many off that team are from those teams.

Speaking of ignorant its quite interesting that you have chosen only last years roster. Consider that Northwestern and Maryland have won every championship outside of 2012 and 2016 going back to 2005. There were certainly many players from the aforementioned clubs. You should also read the original post again, I believe it reads "there are many talented players from other clubs" doesn't sound too pompous to me. It's time to let go of your anger ,I am sure it rears it"s ugly head in other aspects of your life.

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

If you don't see that believing most of the who's who in all D1 lacrosse will be coming from 4 teams in the 2021 age group you are delusional as well as a pompous idiot.Going back to look at teams from 2005 again shows your ignorance, the game and participation numbers across the country are very different now. You find it interesting that I would use a roster from last year when discussing future players but you think teams from 7-10 years ago are more relevant ,that makes perfect sense.

How's igloo?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

If you don't see that believing most of the who's who in all D1 lacrosse will be coming from 4 teams in the 2021 age group you are delusional as well as a pompous idiot.Going back to look at teams from 2005 again shows your ignorance, the game and participation numbers across the country are very different now. You find it interesting that I would use a roster from last year when discussing future players but you think teams from 7-10 years ago are more relevant ,that makes perfect sense.

I will follow your lead and go to more recent years. How about 2014 & 2015 Champs ? Maryland's teams were loaded with ladies from the clubs described earlier, Is that recent enough ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

If you don't see that believing most of the who's who in all D1 lacrosse will be coming from 4 teams in the 2021 age group you are delusional as well as a pompous idiot.Going back to look at teams from 2005 again shows your ignorance, the game and participation numbers across the country are very different now. You find it interesting that I would use a roster from last year when discussing future players but you think teams from 7-10 years ago are more relevant ,that makes perfect sense.

I will follow your lead and go to more recent years. How about 2014 & 2015 Champs ? Maryland's teams were loaded with ladies from the clubs described earlier, Is that recent enough ?

You got me .You got me to remember you cannot argue with crazy or stupid.I guess all the other age groups and players besides those on the four superstar teams should just pack it in.Thanks crazy dad, not sure why the college coaches even watch any teams but the ones you mentioned.

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

You should get T-shirts made up with your new slogan, because as you said its a fact, what a tool.

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

If you don't see that believing most of the who's who in all D1 lacrosse will be coming from 4 teams in the 2021 age group you are delusional as well as a pompous idiot.Going back to look at teams from 2005 again shows your ignorance, the game and participation numbers across the country are very different now. You find it interesting that I would use a roster from last year when discussing future players but you think teams from 7-10 years ago are more relevant ,that makes perfect sense.

Why can't parents, coaches and players enjoy their success without a bunch of safe spacers trying to end the fun? Yes, they are only 13 and there is a long way to go, but they won today and let them enjoy it.

Your kid sucks today get over it or get better, she might be the best in 2 years.

I will follow your lead and go to more recent years. How about 2014 & 2015 Champs ? Maryland's teams were loaded with ladies from the clubs described earlier, Is that recent enough ?

You got me .You got me to remember you cannot argue with crazy or stupid.I guess all the other age groups and players besides those on the four superstar teams should just pack it in.Thanks crazy dad, not sure why the college coaches even watch any teams but the ones you mentioned.

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

You should get T-shirts made up with your new slogan, because as you said its a fact, what a tool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

If you don't see that believing most of the who's who in all D1 lacrosse will be coming from 4 teams in the 2021 age group you are delusional as well as a pompous idiot.Going back to look at teams from 2005 again shows your ignorance, the game and participation numbers across the country are very different now. You find it interesting that I would use a roster from last year when discussing future players but you think teams from 7-10 years ago are more relevant ,that makes perfect sense.

I will follow your lead and go to more recent years. How about 2014 & 2015 Champs ? Maryland's teams were loaded with ladies from the clubs described earlier, Is that recent enough ?

The best 2015 attack came from none of theose clubs..... how do any of you elitist answer that?????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

If you don't see that believing most of the who's who in all D1 lacrosse will be coming from 4 teams in the 2021 age group you are delusional as well as a pompous idiot.Going back to look at teams from 2005 again shows your ignorance, the game and participation numbers across the country are very different now. You find it interesting that I would use a roster from last year when discussing future players but you think teams from 7-10 years ago are more relevant ,that makes perfect sense.

I will follow your lead and go to more recent years. How about 2014 & 2015 Champs ? Maryland's teams were loaded with ladies from the clubs described earlier, Is that recent enough ?

The best 2015 attack came from none of theose clubs..... how do any of you elitist answer that?????

Educated guess... The top clubs are looking for physical, fast athletes to charge to the goal by middies. Very little emphasis on finesse attack play. M&D is the exception. They control the ball from behind the goal. Heros, stars, YJ, and Sky walkers have a heavy emphasis on middies doing the damage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

If you don't see that believing most of the who's who in all D1 lacrosse will be coming from 4 teams in the 2021 age group you are delusional as well as a pompous idiot.Going back to look at teams from 2005 again shows your ignorance, the game and participation numbers across the country are very different now. You find it interesting that I would use a roster from last year when discussing future players but you think teams from 7-10 years ago are more relevant ,that makes perfect sense.

I will follow your lead and go to more recent years. How about 2014 & 2015 Champs ? Maryland's teams were loaded with ladies from the clubs described earlier, Is that recent enough ?

The best 2015 attack came from none of theose clubs..... how do any of you elitist answer that?????

Reality is there are plenty of very talented players all over the country that are on bad teams, the aforementioned teams have depth that most others don't, that's what makes them hard to beat - please remember NO coach is recruiting a team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Most of the "who's who" of D1 down the road will in fact come from girls coming from this group of teams"

If you don't see that believing most of the who's who in all D1 lacrosse will be coming from 4 teams in the 2021 age group you are delusional as well as a pompous idiot.Going back to look at teams from 2005 again shows your ignorance, the game and participation numbers across the country are very different now. You find it interesting that I would use a roster from last year when discussing future players but you think teams from 7-10 years ago are more relevant ,that makes perfect sense.

I will follow your lead and go to more recent years. How about 2014 & 2015 Champs ? Maryland's teams were loaded with ladies from the clubs described earlier, Is that recent enough ?

The best 2015 attack came from none of theose clubs..... how do any of you elitist answer that?????

Educated guess... The top clubs are looking for physical, fast athletes to charge to the goal by middies. Very little emphasis on finesse attack play. M&D is the exception. They control the ball from behind the goal. Heros, stars, YJ, and Sky walkers have a heavy emphasis on middies doing the damage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

You are correct and wait until you see the two new middies coming over. Center draw and circle play will be lights out this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

You are correct and wait until you see the two new middies coming over. Center draw and circle play will be lights out this summer.

No new middies coming over, one is already with the team. The other new addition will play defense.

The draw girls they have now are fine, and are working at getting better this winter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The draw girls they have now are fine, and are working at getting better this winter.

Too late mom, she had her chance

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

You are correct and wait until you see the two new middies coming over. Center draw and circle play will be lights out this summer.

No new middies coming over, one is already with the team. The other new addition will play defense.

I have news for you there will be more than 2 new players. There are 4 new girls already playing in fall tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The draw girls they have now are fine, and are working at getting better this winter.

Too late mom, she had her chance

No need to be snarky , although being able to have numerous options at the draw is an asset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

You are correct and wait until you see the two new middies coming over. Center draw and circle play will be lights out this summer.

No new middies coming over, one is already with the team. The other new addition will play defense.

I have news for you there will be more than 2 new players. There are 4 new girls already playing in fall tournaments.

Good point, I wonder if assigning them a low number is a sign of things to come?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The draw girls they have now are fine, and are working at getting better this winter.

Too late mom, she had her chance

No need to be snarky , although being able to have numerous options at the draw is an asset.

Being able to actually control and win a draw is also an asset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The draw girls they have now are fine, and are working at getting better this winter.

Too late mom, she had her chance

No need to be snarky , although being able to have numerous options at the draw is an asset.

What club is the new draw girl from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

You are correct and wait until you see the two new middies coming over. Center draw and circle play will be lights out this summer.

No new middies coming over, one is already with the team. The other new addition will play defense.

I have news for you there will be more than 2 new players. There are 4 new girls already playing in fall tournaments.

6 girls moving down. New girls from TG, Leg, Express, Elevate

Don't believe there were any new middie pick ups, few new players were middies from other programs but looks like they will have an alternate role. In theory it will look like a full team of middies were all players will be a threat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

You are correct and wait until you see the two new middies coming over. Center draw and circle play will be lights out this summer.

No new middies coming over, one is already with the team. The other new addition will play defense.

I have news for you there will be more than 2 new players. There are 4 new girls already playing in fall tournaments.

6 girls moving down. New girls from TG, Leg, Express, Elevate

You got the girls right but I think it's 5 moving down but the roster will get bigger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't believe there were any new middie pick ups, few new players were middies from other programs but looks like they will have an alternate role. In theory it will look like a full team of middies were all players will be a threat.

Then it sounds like you daughters spot is safe.

Is the new draw girls rostered this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't believe there were any new middie pick ups, few new players were middies from other programs but looks like they will have an alternate role. In theory it will look like a full team of middies were all players will be a threat.

Then it sounds like you daughters spot is safe.

Is the new draw girls rostered this weekend?

Hard to tell, only a very small handful of blue girls are doing tournament. There are more girls from outside or team below than actual team members.

yes she is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

You are correct and wait until you see the two new middies coming over. Center draw and circle play will be lights out this summer.

No new middies coming over, one is already with the team. The other new addition will play defense.

I have news for you there will be more than 2 new players. There are 4 new girls already playing in fall tournaments.

6 girls moving down. New girls from TG, Leg, Express, Elevate

Any talent from within moving up or did they go outside for all spots?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW parent. I saw the YJ play against us in New Egypt last year at Lax for the Cure. The game had a championship feel to it. YJ has the middies and goal tenders to beat anyone at any time. They passed well in transition, in fact their passing was better than ours. There are certain teams that are exceptionally skilled in certain areas and the YJ's have great middies and this is a midfield game. I'm impressed with M&D's attack, Heros team defense and some other units/players as they come to mind.

Bottom line...I have no doubt YJ will be in the mix with everyone else this summer. They have legit talent.

You are correct and wait until you see the two new middies coming over. Center draw and circle play will be lights out this summer.

No new middies coming over, one is already with the team. The other new addition will play defense.

I have news for you there will be more than 2 new players. There are 4 new girls already playing in fall tournaments.

6 girls moving down. New girls from TG, Leg, Express, Elevate

Any talent from within moving up or did they go outside for all spots?

No one moving up. They don't develop talent, they take it from other clubs.

From another post, but brings a valid point to the 2021s. Will US Lacrosse mandate age requirements to be eligible for insurance? The issue will come down to insurance. If the Club program or the tournament gets their insurance through US Lacrosse (most of them do) they are going to have no alternative then to adopt this rule. No one is going to be able to self insure themselves against the potential lawsuit that would come if they allowed an older girl to compete younger girls. [/quote] Perfectly stated! US Lacrosse insurance rules will mandate the change

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From another post, but brings a valid point to the 2021s. Will US Lacrosse mandate age requirements to be eligible for insurance? The issue will come down to insurance. If the Club program or the tournament gets their insurance through US Lacrosse (most of them do) they are going to have no alternative then to adopt this rule. No one is going to be able to self insure themselves against the potential lawsuit that would come if they allowed an older girl to compete younger girls.

Perfectly stated! US Lacrosse insurance rules will mandate the change [/quote]

I hope they do it would level the playing field a little . That said I would bet some other insurance would jump in to fill the void , it's all about the money .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't believe there were any new middie pick ups, few new players were middies from other programs but looks like they will have an alternate role. In theory it will look like a full team of middies were all players will be a threat.

What does this mean? makes no sense, no new middie pickups,few new players were middies , alternate role? Are you the coach or a very worried old middie parent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From another post, but brings a valid point to the 2021s. Will US Lacrosse mandate age requirements to be eligible for insurance? The issue will come down to insurance. If the Club program or the tournament gets their insurance through US Lacrosse (most of them do) they are going to have no alternative then to adopt this rule. No one is going to be able to self insure themselves against the potential lawsuit that would come if they allowed an older girl to compete younger girls.

Perfectly stated! US Lacrosse insurance rules will mandate the change

I hope they do it would level the playing field a little . That said I would bet some other insurance would jump in to fill the void , it's all about the money . [/quote]

USL can only mandate the rules in tournaments they sponsor. For the most part, no one goes to their tournaments anymore so they are totally powerless to enforce this.

USL needs to step in and make more age based tournaments on Long Island. LI is a hotbed for lacrosse and US Lacrosse has zero tournaments here - that makes no sense!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USL needs to step in and make more age based tournaments on Long Island. LI is a hotbed for lacrosse and US Lacrosse has zero tournaments here - that makes no sense!

They don't have any in MD either. That's why no one goes to them. Not in MD or LI.

2021 top guns black is going to have a tough year, my daughter and a few others left and the pickup are so so

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2021 top guns black is going to have a tough year, my daughter and a few others left and the pickup are so so

Great to be rid of the rif raf! Judging a team by a pick up tournament is your first mistake.

Wow arrogant much? You left? good enjoy your new team. and don't wish bad on children ,[lacrosse]. I'm sure you will make lots of friends on the sidelines

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow arrogant much? You left? good enjoy your new team. and don't wish bad on children ,[lacrosse]. I'm sure you will make lots of friends on the sidelines

I wonder if her daughter is a tool like the mama? What a loser!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]2021 top guns black is going to have a tough year, my daughter and a few others left and the pickup are so so

Great to be rid of the rif raf! Judging a team by a pick up tournament is your first mistake.

We'll see you at Lax for the cure [lacrosse]

2021 top guns black is going to have a tough year, my daughter and a few others left and the pickup are so so

2021 Black will be just fine.
Good luck to your daughter, BYE!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2021 top guns black is going to have a tough year, my daughter and a few others left and the pickup are so so

Wow, that is a SUPER jackass thing to say! Wonder if everyone else feels your daughter's departure will make huge impact on the team? I HIGHLY doubt it! Usually teams are happy to see PARENTS like you go. Wonder if the new team is as happy as you think they are to get her, doubt that too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2021 top guns black is going to have a tough year, my daughter and a few others left and the pickup are so so

.

Next year tough? Every year so far is tough for that team, and getting tougher.

Simple question: How many teams are better than Top Guns on Long Island? Other than Yellow Jackets, I think the answer is zero.

Simple answer, other than you who cares and who will remember a year or two from now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple question: How many teams are better than Top Guns on Long Island? Other than Yellow Jackets, I think the answer is zero.

This coming year you will have Liberty, Elevate, Leg, Bandits, Igloo .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple question: How many teams are better than Top Guns on Long Island? Other than Yellow Jackets, I think the answer is zero.

This coming year you will have Liberty, Elevate, Leg, Bandits, Igloo .

TG wasn't better than Liberty before they lost all their girls. Next year will be even worse.

Haven't seen TG since National Draw 3 years ago. Where do they play?

MD Parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple question: How many teams are better than Top Guns on Long Island? Other than Yellow Jackets, I think the answer is zero.

This coming year you will have Liberty, Elevate, Leg, Bandits, Igloo .

Love when people try to make predictions before games are played, and then have eat their words! Keep up your diarrhea of the mouth, tool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2021 top guns black is going to have a tough year, my daughter and a few others left and the pickup are so so

Wow, that is a SUPER jackass thing to say! Wonder if everyone else feels your daughter's departure will make huge impact on the team? I HIGHLY doubt it! Usually teams are happy to see PARENTS like you go. Wonder if the new team is as happy as you think they are to get her, doubt that too.

Wow you are SUPER gullible.

6 girls moving down. New girls from TG, Leg, Express, Elevate [/quote]

Any talent from within moving up or did they go outside for all spots? [/quote]

No one moving up. They don't develop talent, they take it from other clubs. [/quote]

That would be a shame. There are better girls on the B team. These other programs must be very weak if their best players still have trouble catching and throwing as witnessed this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6 girls moving down. New girls from TG, Leg, Express, Elevate

Any talent from within moving up or did they go outside for all spots? [/quote]

No one moving up. They don't develop talent, they take it from other clubs. [/quote]

That would be a shame. There are better girls on the B team. These other programs must be very weak if their best players still have trouble catching and throwing as witnessed this weekend. [/quote]

Pretty much all those teams mentioned each lost their top players this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6 girls moving down. New girls from TG, Leg, Express, Elevate

Any talent from within moving up or did they go outside for all spots?

No one moving up. They don't develop talent, they take it from other clubs. [/quote]

That would be a shame. There are better girls on the B team. These other programs must be very weak if their best players still have trouble catching and throwing as witnessed this weekend. [/quote]

Pretty much all those teams mentioned each lost their top players this year. [/quote]

Elevate lost none

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple question: How many teams are better than Top Guns on Long Island? Other than Yellow Jackets, I think the answer is zero.

This coming year you will have Liberty, Elevate, Leg, Bandits, Igloo .

Love when people try to make predictions before games are played, and then have eat their words! Keep up your diarrhea of the mouth, tool

I watched Liberty 2021 take down Elevate this weekend. Liberty 2021 looked pretty good.

How many coaches were watching the 2021 games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many coaches were watching the 2021 games

none during the championship game, but some were seen earlier in the tournament. Great game, tough ending with M&D scoring a free position with 10 seconds left in the game to tie it up, then scoring again in OT on another free position to win. Goalie had no chance with a low setting sun directly behind the shooters. It's a coin flip between these two. Pf

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Simple question: How many teams are better than Top Guns on Long Island? Other than Yellow Jackets, I think the answer is zero.

This coming year you will have Liberty, Elevate, Leg, Bandits, Igloo .

TG wasn't better than Liberty before they lost all their girls. Next year will be even worse

Igloo really? Not a good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many coaches were watching the 2021 games

none during the championship game, but some were seen earlier in the tournament. Great game, tough ending with M&D scoring a free position with 10 seconds left in the game to tie it up, then scoring again in OT on another free position to win. Goalie had no chance with a low setting sun directly behind the shooters. It's a coin flip between these two. Pf

Coin flip ,please,what have you lost the last 6 in a row.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many coaches were watching the 2021 games

none during the championship game, but some were seen earlier in the tournament. Great game, tough ending with M&D scoring a free position with 10 seconds left in the game to tie it up, then scoring again in OT on another free position to win. Goalie had no chance with a low setting sun directly behind the shooters. It's a coin flip between these two. Pf

Pretty sure they were referring to Lax for the Cure.

That coin must be one sided. How many times has Skywalkers beaten M&D?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many coaches were watching the 2021 games

none during the championship game, but some were seen earlier in the tournament. Great game, tough ending with M&D scoring a free position with 10 seconds left in the game to tie it up, then scoring again in OT on another free position to win. Goalie had no chance with a low setting sun directly behind the shooters. It's a coin flip between these two. Pf

Pretty sure they were referring to Lax for the Cure.

That coin must be one sided. How many times has Skywalkers beaten M&D?

These current players? 4 games this fall with M&D winning 3. Hats off to them. They are the better team, but not by much if you are honest. Having several key girls playing soccer and lax did not help yesterday. SW center middie did not play play due to a tournament at the soccer Plex.

Heros was up 4-0 at half against M&D during final game of pool play, but couldn't hold lead. They're snakebitten against this team. Very entertaining game to watch, though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros was up 4-0 at half against M&D during final game of pool play, but couldn't hold lead. They're snakebitten against this team. Very entertaining game to watch, though

Snake bitten = not as good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros was up 4-0 at half against M&D during final game of pool play, but couldn't hold lead. They're snakebitten against this team. Very entertaining game to watch, though

Snake bitten = not as good

Go on the Maryland thread and spew this crap. No one on Long Island cares if Integrity, Heros, M&D, Skywalkers or any other Maryland club beat each other. Let us stick to spewing crap about our Long Island clubs and who is better than who. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen TG since National Draw 3 years ago. Where do they play?

MD Parent

Exactly! They play 1-2 competitive games a year and avoid MD, YJ at all costs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen TG since National Draw 3 years ago. Where do they play?

MD Parent

Exactly! They play 1-2 competitive games a year and avoid MD, YJ at all costs

Next summer they will be at Summer Genesis, National Draw, Lax for the Cure and Mid Atlantic cup at McDonogh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple question: How many teams are better than Top Guns on Long Island? Other than Yellow Jackets, I think the answer is zero.

This coming year you will have Liberty, Elevate, Leg, Bandits, Igloo .

Love when people try to make predictions before games are played, and then have eat their words! Keep up your diarrhea of the mouth, tool

I watched Liberty 2021 take down Elevate this weekend. Liberty 2021 looked pretty good.

Funny, there was a Liberty 2021 player with a TE backpack, any relation?
Oh and nobody cares about beating Elevate. Take your new team to MD and play some real lacrosse if you want to boast.

Funny you watched liberty beat elevate mom. Yes you won. Seemed elevate was extremely off Saturday. That team is a lot better then they showed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen TG since National Draw 3 years ago. Where do they play?

MD Parent

Exactly! They play 1-2 competitive games a year and avoid MD, YJ at all costs

Next summer they will be at Summer Genesis, National Draw, Lax for the Cure and Mid Atlantic cup at McDonogh.

Is the new coach purple or black?

Every bit as good. Caught up. Just like most every other heros team, they start to beat mnd in 9th grade. Mnd gets all the big guns early cuz mom and daddy thinks that's where you go to get a scholarship, then all the other good teams catch up which is what u see going on with sw and heros. Obv u weren't there cuz you got the score wrong but it's ok.

Nice to be in a group with mnd sw heros yj. All great teams! Here is how the fall winds up...

1. mnd. (Not as impressive as years past)
2. SW ( made huge improvements in last year)
3. Heros (great draw girls and great team play)
4. YJ (not sure of direction, don't live on island)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen TG since National Draw 3 years ago. Where do they play?

MD Parent

Exactly! They play 1-2 competitive games a year and avoid MD, YJ at all costs

Next summer they will be at Summer Genesis, National Draw, Lax for the Cure and Mid Atlantic cup at McDonogh.

Is the new coach purple or black?

Purple

SW draw middle was there on Saturday for the M&D game and lost 8 of the 9 draws that day. And M&D had several girls out with injuries. So no excuses. Two top teams playing at a high level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen TG since National Draw 3 years ago. Where do they play?

MD Parent

Exactly! They play 1-2 competitive games a year and avoid MD, YJ at all costs

Next summer they will be at Summer Genesis, National Draw, Lax for the Cure and Mid Atlantic cup at McDonogh.

Is the new coach purple or black?

Purple

Hope he can make a difference for these girls

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice to be in a group with mnd sw heros yj. All great teams! Here is how the fall winds up...

1. mnd. (Not as impressive as years past)
2. SW ( made huge improvements in last year)
3. Heros (great draw girls and great team play)
4. YJ (not sure of direction, don't live on island)

Not as impressive as in they lost one game this fall? 3-1 vs SW. 3-0 vs Heros. Beat YJ. 2-0 vs Stars. Pretty disappointing fall. They struggled in some games last fall too. I'm sure they will be fine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every bit as good. Caught up. Just like most every other heros team, they start to beat mnd in 9th grade. Mnd gets all the big guns early cuz mom and daddy thinks that's where you go to get a scholarship, then all the other good teams catch up which is what u see going on with sw and heros. Obv u weren't there cuz you got the score wrong but it's ok.

Or maybe teams catch up in 9th grade as girls start committing and things go to showcases which are more geared to individual talent than team play. In most cases, Heros and SW have more athletic girls. M&D wins when they are younger for just the opposite reasons you stated. They are better coached and play as a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every bit as good. Caught up. Just like most every other heros team, they start to beat mnd in 9th grade. Mnd gets all the big guns early cuz mom and daddy thinks that's where you go to get a scholarship, then all the other good teams catch up which is what u see going on with sw and heros. Obv u weren't there cuz you got the score wrong but it's ok.

Or maybe teams catch up in 9th grade as girls start committing and things go to showcases which are more geared to individual talent than team play. In most cases, Heros and SW have more athletic girls. M&D wins when they are younger for just the opposite reasons you stated. They are better coached and play as a team.

I agree. CR, M&D director, told me when we were being recruited that each team has two set offenses, defenses, and a defined ride and clear from day 1. I was skeptical. After losing about 10 games in a row to them my observations are they indeed have defined roles from the beginning for each team.Better coached, better system.Through in some stud players and they are wicked good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every bit as good. Caught up. Just like most every other heros team, they start to beat mnd in 9th grade. Mnd gets all the big guns early cuz mom and daddy thinks that's where you go to get a scholarship, then all the other good teams catch up which is what u see going on with sw and heros. Obv u weren't there cuz you got the score wrong but it's ok.

Or maybe teams catch up in 9th grade as girls start committing and things go to showcases which are more geared to individual talent than team play. In most cases, Heros and SW have more athletic girls. M&D wins when they are younger for just the opposite reasons you stated. They are better coached and play as a team.

I agree. CR, M&D director, told me when we were being recruited that each team has two set offenses, defenses, and a defined ride and clear from day 1. I was skeptical. After losing about 10 games in a row to them my observations are they indeed have defined roles from the beginning for each team.Better coached, better system.Through in some stud players and they are wicked good.

You weren't being recruited. And I'd rather have my kid not have position defined so early. Also, set plays etc are not a good way to develop lax IQ. Much prefer a freelancing motion offense.

Looking for some guidance. My daughter was invited to the Empire - Finish Line Showcase at UA fields in Baltimore June 26-27. Is it a worthwhile event?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for some guidance. My daughter was invited to the Empire - Finish Line Showcase at UA fields in Baltimore June 26-27. Is it a worthwhile event?

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for some guidance. My daughter was invited to the Empire - Finish Line Showcase at UA fields in Baltimore June 26-27. Is it a worthwhile event?

I live in Baltimore. Never heard of this showcase. Must be new.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for some guidance. My daughter was invited to the Empire - Finish Line Showcase at UA fields in Baltimore June 26-27. Is it a worthwhile event?

I live in Baltimore. Never heard of this showcase. Must be new.

Everyone in Finishline's email system got that email. Save your money. It's a money grabber.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for some guidance. My daughter was invited to the Empire - Finish Line Showcase at UA fields in Baltimore June 26-27. Is it a worthwhile event?

It's the same time as Max Exposure. Everyone was invited to Empire. Waste of money.

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

I have not seen TG play this year. I saw Liberty easily take down ELevate so maybe they can give YJ a game. Maybe they will meet up this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

I have not seen TG play this year. I saw Liberty easily take down ELevate so maybe they can give YJ a game. Maybe they will meet up this summer.

YJ avoids Liberty. U13 was a perfect example.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

I have not seen TG play this year. I saw Liberty easily take down ELevate so maybe they can give YJ a game. Maybe they will meet up this summer.

YJ avoids Liberty. U13 was a perfect example

YJ have been ducking Liberty they want no part of them. We'll see how TG fares at the U14 championship this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

If you take the best girls from elevate yj liberty tg and legacy long island would definitely have a chance against those Maryland teams. Its not a down year. Just too spread out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

The YJ A team has the best individual player in the country as this age. A lefty attack that dominates. She does need help on that team though, too many smaller girls, especially on D. They can't compete physically against the bigger MD teams anymore.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you take the best girls from elevate yj liberty tg and legacy long island would definitely have a chance against those Maryland teams. Its not a down year. Just too spread out.

That's a nice dream unless the MD teams do the same. Take the best from M&D, TLC, Heros, SkyWalkers, Integrity, Md United and it would be no contest. Within a 25 mile radius (or about that) of Baltimore there is: M&D, Heros, Md United, Coppermine, Integrity, Bay Area, API, CC Lax, Looneys...plus probably one or two more that I don't know about. Now that's spread out!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

The YJ A team has the best individual player in the country as this age. A lefty attack that dominates. She does need help on that team though, too many smaller girls, especially on D. They can't compete physically against the bigger MD teams anymore.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

Thanks medicated mommy , best player playing attack at 2031 age group just does not happen , say what you want but the best players are playing middy . This age group is no exception.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

The YJ A team has the best individual player in the country as this age. A lefty attack that dominates. She does need help on that team though, too many smaller girls, especially on D. They can't compete physically against the bigger MD teams anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

The YJ A team has the best individual player in the country as this age. A lefty attack that dominates. She does need help on that team though, too many smaller girls, especially on D. They can't compete physically against the bigger MD teams anymore.

Just because she is committed to Navy doesn't make her the best player in the class. There are far more athletic girls on many teams out there. She is a very good player, but certainly not the unquestioned best player out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

The YJ A team has the best individual player in the country as this age. A lefty attack that dominates. She does need help on that team though, too many smaller girls, especially on D. They can't compete physically against the bigger MD teams anymore.

Time to cue the bigger stronger girls! Bye the way, some of the new girls look smaller than kids already on the team? What's up with that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

The YJ A team has the best individual player in the country as this age. A lefty attack that dominates. She does need help on that team though, too many smaller girls, especially on D. They can't compete physically against the bigger MD teams anymore.

Thanks medicated mommy but little chance the best player plays attack at this age . Not even the best player on your own team , look at middies if you want to see the best players in the country .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

The YJ A team has the best individual player in the country as this age. A lefty attack that dominates. She does need help on that team though, too many smaller girls, especially on D. They can't compete physically against the bigger MD teams anymore.

Are best kids in this age group just staying away from this club or is this just a weak age as someone else posted? Even the younger YJ teams seem to struggle and are not very impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do any othe LI clubs have a shot to take down YJ this summer? Just doesn't seem like an impressive age group for this program. Maybe Liberty?

No. 2021 LI lacrosse is subpar. YJ can't beat MD teams and none of the other LI teams can compete with YJ. Down year on the island. So while this is not a great YJ team, they are still better than everyone else on LI.

Would not say this age group in particular is any worse but there are better girls on the B team and other programs for sure. This team hung on to many girls who should have been dropped sooner. Changes are coming and will fix many of the issues. I would. It count them out yet.

The YJ A team has the best individual player in the country as this age. A lefty attack that dominates. She does need help on that team though, too many smaller girls, especially on D. They can't compete physically against the bigger MD teams anymore.

Are best kids in this age group just staying away from this club or is this just a weak age as someone else posted? Even the younger YJ teams seem to struggle and are not very impressive.

YJ had not played or practiced together as a team since July and managed 3 one goal losses to the best MD has to offer. Shots saved by Hero's and SW goalies in final minute to preserve the win. New girls in the field or not, this team will show just fine next summer. I do think the full year and spring league model is really tough to beat. I do not think the trend will get better for LI.

Anyone know how Md United fared at the Terps Classic? The website lists only the schedule, no results?

Not true. The yj A (blue) practices or plays together almost weekly all year. Not all players make every Fall tournament due to other athletic commitments. However they are usually a fairly full squad. New girls being added this winter as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not true. The yj A (blue) practices or plays together almost weekly all year. Not all players make every Fall tournament due to other athletic commitments. However they are usually a fairly full squad. New girls being added this winter as well.

Thank you. Your response is another example of pointing out a typical yj excuse. Whenever they win, we ALL hear about it, and how good and unbeatable they are. But, when they lose, they manufacture excuses instead of being accountable and just admitting that they lost to a better team. Why do they continue to think we don't know the truth?

Heros destroyed MD United by double digits. They certainly aren't the team they were 2-3 years ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not true. The yj A (blue) practices or plays together almost weekly all year. Not all players make every Fall tournament due to other athletic commitments. However they are usually a fairly full squad. New girls being added this winter as well.

Thank you. Your response is another example of pointing out a typical yj excuse. Whenever they win, we ALL hear about it, and how good and unbeatable they are. But, when they lose, they manufacture excuses instead of being accountable and just admitting that they lost to a better team. Why do they continue to think we don't know the truth?

You wreak od desperation , your kid must be hideous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros destroyed MD United by double digits. They certainly aren't the team they were 2-3 years ago.

Md United was excellent 2 years ago. Then they lost their top players and coach. Take a look at the beast in the M&D goal, she was from MD United.

The coach that left was responsible for almost driving the current team into the ground. Outlook is much better with the owner coaching this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach that left was responsible for almost driving the current team into the ground. Outlook is much better with the owner coaching this team.

The blue will be true this year as the f and f f are finally moved. It's the golden girls that will suffer being stuck with all the baggage. The winners, in the end, will be obvious!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach that left was responsible for almost driving the current team into the ground. Outlook is much better with the owner coaching this team.

What will new coach do different? People say the prior coach never showed so how did she drive the team into the ground?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach that left was responsible for almost driving the current team into the ground. Outlook is much better with the owner coaching this team.

What will new coach do different? People say the prior coach never showed so how did she drive the team into the ground?

You already know the answer to your questions, reread your letter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach that left was responsible for almost driving the current team into the ground. Outlook is much better with the owner coaching this team.

What will new coach do different? People say the prior coach never showed so how did she drive the team into the ground?

I think you people are confusing YJ and MD United . Let's break it down MD United has a coach that left and is now being coached by owner and are better off. YJ had [lacrosse] coach that was all about f&f who controlled the team because the actual coach never showed .The YJ [lacrosse] aka human bidet will be replaced ( as has happened before ) and any replacement is an upgrade .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach that left was responsible for almost driving the current team into the ground. Outlook is much better with the owner coaching this team.

What will new coach do different? People say the prior coach never showed so how did she drive the team into the ground?

I think you people are confusing YJ and MD United . Let's break it down MD United has a coach that left and is now being coached by owner and are better off. YJ had [lacrosse] coach that was all about f&f who controlled the team because the actual coach never showed .The YJ [lacrosse] aka human bidet will be replaced ( as has happened before ) and any replacement is an upgrade .

So you have at least one disgruntled parent here. The original coach has family commitments to attend to, congrats to her and good luck! The person you so clearly dislike has been involved and coaching team for years, we are very lucky to have him. Sorry your daughter doesn't get playing time under him or sorry you already left the team. As for the rest of us, thank you Coach, we appreciate all you do.

The female coach that left Md United left because of the director, not a "family commitment". You will notice a lack of a coaching resume' of the director. That's because she has very little actual coaching experience, beyond her own money-machine, er...club. She is a business person, first and foremost, not a coach with much knowledge beyond rec level ability. Compare her coaching/playing "resume'" (if you can find one) to the directors at M&D, Integrity, SkyWalkers, CCLax...[lacrosse], even the directors at API have coached/played at a high level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The female coach that left Md United left because of the director, not a "family commitment". You will notice a lack of a coaching resume' of the director. That's because she has very little actual coaching experience, beyond her own money-machine, er...club. She is a business person, first and foremost, not a coach with much knowledge beyond rec level ability. Compare her coaching/playing "resume'" (if you can find one) to the directors at M&D, Integrity, SkyWalkers, CCLax...[lacrosse], even the directors at API have coached/played at a high level.

I know for a fact the former coach knows what she is doing. I coached against her and the team was sharp. Funny how negative some folks are - especially anonymously!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The female coach that left Md United left because of the director, not a "family commitment". You will notice a lack of a coaching resume' of the director. That's because she has very little actual coaching experience, beyond her own money-machine, er...club. She is a business person, first and foremost, not a coach with much knowledge beyond rec level ability. Compare her coaching/playing "resume'" (if you can find one) to the directors at M&D, Integrity, SkyWalkers, CCLax...[lacrosse], even the directors at API have coached/played at a high level.

I know for a fact the former coach knows what she is doing. I coached against her and the team was sharp. Funny how negative some folks are - especially anonymously!

I agree with you, and I was defending her. The story that the director puts out about the former coach's departure is incorrect. The former coach is a good coach, but the director is not a good coach. She's a business person. I think we're on the same side here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach that left was responsible for almost driving the current team into the ground. Outlook is much better with the owner coaching this team.

What will new coach do different? People say the prior coach never showed so how did she drive the team into the ground?

I think you people are confusing YJ and MD United . Let's break it down MD United has a coach that left and is now being coached by owner and are better off. YJ had [lacrosse] coach that was all about f&f who controlled the team because the actual coach never showed .The YJ [lacrosse] aka human bidet will be replaced ( as has happened before ) and any replacement is an upgrade .

So you have at least one disgruntled parent here. The original coach has family commitments to attend to, congrats to her and good luck! The person you so clearly dislike has been involved and coaching team for years, we are very lucky to have him. Sorry your daughter doesn't get playing time under him or sorry you already left the team. As for the rest of us, thank you Coach, we appreciate all you do.

Thanks medicated mom. Facts are he has never been a successful coach . His hometown youth teams had tons of talent just not very successful while he managed to aliienate many parents and kids .While at the helm of the 19 YJ team he was a train wreck and team played poorly until enough parents threatened to leave the club so CR stepped in. Now on to his next disaster , the drop off in this team was clearly related to his great coaching . Not to mention his laughable tenure at SCC. The only success he has had is in his second job as the human bidet.

She may know her X's and O's, but lacks in the area of creating a positive team atmosphere. It was toxic the last year or so. She is not missed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

She may know her X's and O's, but lacks in the area of creating a positive team atmosphere. It was toxic the last year or so. She is not missed.

Who are you talking about?

I believe he/she is referring to the Md United East coach who either stepped down or was forced out, depending on who you talk to.

Is it better to be the top gun on the B team or a complimentary player on an elite A team? How do you balance having fun versus grinding to be seen by some coach. I feel if you have talent you will be spotted at some point in the process whether it's A team, B team, or a camp/prospect day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be the top gun on the B team or a complimentary player on an elite A team? How do you balance having fun versus grinding to be seen by some coach. I feel if you have talent you will be spotted at some point in the process whether it's A team, B team, or a camp/prospect day.

Depends greatly on what club she plays for!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be the top gun on the B team or a complimentary player on an elite A team? How do you balance having fun versus grinding to be seen by some coach. I feel if you have talent you will be spotted at some point in the process whether it's A team, B team, or a camp/prospect day.

Top Gun B team is like a c team for most other programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be the top gun on the B team or a complimentary player on an elite A team? How do you balance having fun versus grinding to be seen by some coach. I feel if you have talent you will be spotted at some point in the process whether it's A team, B team, or a camp/prospect day.

Top Gun B team is like a c team for most other programs.

Read it again donkey. The question was not about TG. Assume you are a YJ parent.

It is better to be a player on an A team if it is M&D, YJ, Skywalkers or Heros. Those clubs will have the most coaches watching them for the next few years. People are going to respond that it doesn't help if they don't play, but those people don't realize that once showcases start, every girl has to play. That's why it's so stupid all the arguments right now about who is the best 2018 or 2019 team. They aren't playing the same that they did in championship tourmanents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be the top gun on the B team or a complimentary player on an elite A team? How do you balance having fun versus grinding to be seen by some coach. I feel if you have talent you will be spotted at some point in the process whether it's A team, B team, or a camp/prospect day.

Depends greatly on what club she plays for!

a top 5 team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be the top gun on the B team or a complimentary player on an elite A team? How do you balance having fun versus grinding to be seen by some coach. I feel if you have talent you will be spotted at some point in the process whether it's A team, B team, or a camp/prospect day.

Top Gun B team is like a c team for most other programs.

Read it again donkey. The question was not about TG. Assume you are a YJ parent.

It is better to be a player on an A team if it is M&D, YJ, Skywalkers or Heros. Those clubs will have the most coaches watching them for the next few years. People are going to respond that it doesn't help if they don't play, but those people don't realize that once showcases start, every girl has to play. That's why it's so stupid all the arguments right now about who is the best 2018 or 2019 team. They aren't playing the same that they did in championship tourmanents.

Well said...don't get why they keep score in the showcases...its all about getting kids recruited

It really doesn't matter if your daughter plays on an A or B team. If she has talent the colleges will find her. E

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It really doesn't matter if your daughter plays on an A or B team. If she has talent the colleges will find her. E

Exactly correct

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It really doesn't matter if your daughter plays on an A or B team. If she has talent the colleges will find her. E

100% accurate.

I was the parent who handed out the team brochures to the college coaches at summer and fall tournaments for my daughter's club team. I've overheard many, many conversations between college coaches, and not once did I hear one of them say anything about an "A" or "B" team player. They're just looking for good talent,and they don't care where it comes from. I did hear quite a few talk about the y2k parents though,and none of it was positive. Those coaches see and hear almost everything. Be careful how you act yj and Heros parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was the parent who handed out the team brochures to the college coaches at summer and fall tournaments for my daughter's club team. I've overheard many, many conversations between college coaches, and not once did I hear one of them say anything about an "A" or "B" team player. They're just looking for good talent,and they don't care where it comes from. I did hear quite a few talk about the y2k parents though,and none of it was positive. Those coaches see and hear almost everything. Be careful how you act yj and Heros parents.

Creepy stalker

The coaches will be at A games first bviously. If they don't see what they want them will move to the B teams for sure.

only an [lacrosse] hole would say some thing like that about a bunch of 13 year old girls!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

only an [lacrosse] hole would say some thing like that about a bunch of 13 year old girls!

Maybe you should use the quote function instead of the reply.

No one knows what you are talking about.

Sorry about that.It was in response to just another parent bashing a bunch of young ladies.If you want to put a coach or director down that fine.I think the kids should be left out of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

only an [lacrosse] hole would say some thing like that about a bunch of 13 year old girls!

Maybe you should use the quote function instead of the reply.

No one knows what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

only an [lacrosse] hole would say some thing like that about a bunch of 13 year old girls!

Maybe you should use the quote function instead of the reply.

No one knows what you are talking about.

Sorry.It was in response to another jerk parent bashing young ladies.If you want to put down a coach or director thats fine .
Just keep the kids out of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

only an [lacrosse] hole would say some thing like that about a bunch of 13 year old girls!

Maybe you should use the quote function instead of the reply.

No one knows what you are talking about.

That was in response to another jerk parent bashing a bunch of young ladies. If you want to put down a coach or a director that's fine; but leave the kids out of it.

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be the top gun on the B team or a complimentary player on an elite A team? How do you balance having fun versus grinding to be seen by some coach. I feel if you have talent you will be spotted at some point in the process whether it's A team, B team, or a camp/prospect day.

Top Gun B team is like a c team for most other programs.

Read it again donkey. The question was not about TG. Assume you are a YJ parent.

It is better to be a player on an A team if it is M&D, YJ, Skywalkers or Heros. Those clubs will have the most coaches watching them for the next few years. People are going to respond that it doesn't help if they don't play, but those people don't realize that once showcases start, every girl has to play. That's why it's so stupid all the arguments right now about who is the best 2018 or 2019 team. They aren't playing the same that they did in championship tourmanents.

Well said...don't get why they keep score in the showcases...its all about getting kids recruited

What none of you seem to understand is some clubs (Not YJ and most MD clubs) play everyone equally even in those oh so amazing "championship" tournaments. Those r mostly a joke too. 20 minute games where teams shorten their bench = stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

The girls I'm talking about are on D. They have size, reach, physicality and a good amount of speed. They certainly stood out on "B" when they played this Fall. Will be interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

It's the big fast ones you need to watch out for. The small girls cannot compete with that, and is exactly what the team needs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be the top gun on the B team or a complimentary player on an elite A team? How do you balance having fun versus grinding to be seen by some coach. I feel if you have talent you will be spotted at some point in the process whether it's A team, B team, or a camp/prospect day.

Top Gun B team is like a c team for most other programs.

Not sure what planet you're from, but YJ shortens the bench whenever they need a win, that includes play in games to get out of the bracket. two years ago at nat draw half the 2020 didn't play the last three games
Read it again donkey. The question was not about TG. Assume you are a YJ parent.

It is better to be a player on an A team if it is M&D, YJ, Skywalkers or Heros. Those clubs will have the most coaches watching them for the next few years. People are going to respond that it doesn't help if they don't play, but those people don't realize that once showcases start, every girl has to play. That's why it's so stupid all the arguments right now about who is the best 2018 or 2019 team. They aren't playing the same that they did in championship tourmanents.

Well said...don't get why they keep score in the showcases...its all about getting kids recruited

What none of you seem to understand is some clubs (Not YJ and most MD clubs) play everyone equally even in those oh so amazing "championship" tournaments. Those r mostly a joke too. 20 minute games where teams shorten their bench = stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

The girls I'm talking about are on D. They have size, reach, physicality and a good amount of speed. They certainly stood out on "B" when they played this Fall. Will be interesting.

How many from B moved up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

The girls I'm talking about are on D. They have size, reach, physicality and a good amount of speed. They certainly stood out on "B" when they played this Fall. Will be interesting.

How many from B moved up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

The girls I'm talking about are on D. They have size, reach, physicality and a good amount of speed. They certainly stood out on "B" when they played this Fall. Will be interesting.

How many from B moved up?

One moved up and she is an attack. One defenseman from outside the program was added. The defense has 4 excellent players and will be fine, they added an excellent goalie as well so no drop off there anymore. Added 3 middies that are excellent players. They will be very good again.

are you on the team? they only added 1 middie, 5 new players not 6 like your stating!

How did the red pinnie or returning girls make out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

are you on the team? they only added 1 middie, 5 new players not 6 like your stating!

Did they get the draw girl they were after?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

The girls I'm talking about are on D. They have size, reach, physicality and a good amount of speed. They certainly stood out on "B" when they played this Fall. Will be interesting.

How many from B moved up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

The girls I'm talking about are on D. They have size, reach, physicality and a good amount of speed. They certainly stood out on "B" when they played this Fall. Will be interesting.

How many from B moved up?

One moved up and she is an attack. One defenseman from outside the program was added. The defense has 4 excellent players and will be fine, they added an excellent goalie as well so no drop off there anymore. Added 3 middies that are excellent players. They will be very good again.

The starting D is ok. The second line aweful

Give me speed over size any day of the week. [/quote]

The girls I'm talking about are on D. They have size, reach, physicality and a good amount of speed. They certainly stood out on "B" when they played this Fall. Will be interesting. [/quote]

How many from B moved up?[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend for YJ Blue. Interesting to see if there is going to be a bit of a shakeup. Great team, just needs to get bigger to compete against those huge MD teams.

Saw the B team and they definitely have some size and physical girls.

Give me speed over size any day of the week.

The girls I'm talking about are on D. They have size, reach, physicality and a good amount of speed. They certainly stood out on "B" when they played this Fall. Will be interesting.

One moved up and she is an attack. One defenseman from outside the program was added. The defense has 4 excellent players and will be fine, they added an excellent goalie as well so no drop off there anymore. Added 3 middies that are excellent players. They will be very good again.

The starting D is ok. The second line aweful [/quote]

Ouch, somebody on B with a Big Strong girl didn't get pulled up!

What winter leagues are available for girls at this age?

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

Completely false statement. See commitments and you will see A B C team players who are going to play college ball. Including C team girls going to D1 programs. If we're going to make statements can they try and be accurate. That also applies to other programs which have girls committed from there lower teams too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

Glad it worked out for you but on the flip side it looked like there were quiete a few returning players at tryouts . The grass isnt always greenier but there are many options.
Would also say that most programs treat their B, C teams the same way and it's All about the revenue no matter where you go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

This is getting old.
1-Girls from the 2nd/3rd teams are getting recruited with the help of CR, unlike BS who doesn't even return calls.
2-The 3&4 2021 YJ teams will probably beat most other LI teams since they are now made up of all new girls that jumped from TG, TLC, TE and 91.

Not TLC, Type O.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

This is getting old.
1-Girls from the 2nd/3rd teams are getting recruited with the help of CR, unlike BS who doesn't even return calls.
2-The 3&4 2021 YJ teams will probably beat most other LI teams since they are now made up of all new girls that jumped from TG, TLC, TE and 91.

Really? The C team is basically the same as it was last year. 6 new girls and a couple of B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

This is getting old.
1-Girls from the 2nd/3rd teams are getting recruited with the help of CR, unlike BS who doesn't even return calls.
2-The 3&4 2021 YJ teams will probably beat most other LI teams since they are now made up of all new girls that jumped from TG, TLC, TE and 91.

Hate to break this to you but the 3rd and 4th YJ teams will not beat the othe LI clubs like Lib, TE and TG. They will play in the lowest possible brackets as they should. I also wouldn't expect much in they way of coaching, development and quality of play on those teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

This is getting old.
1-Girls from the 2nd/3rd teams are getting recruited with the help of CR, unlike BS who doesn't even return calls.
2-The 3&4 2021 YJ teams will probably beat most other LI teams since they are now made up of all new girls that jumped from TG, TLC, TE and 91.

Hate to break this to you but the 3rd and 4th YJ teams will not beat the othe LI clubs like Lib, TE and TG. They will play in the lowest possible brackets as they should. I also wouldn't expect much in they way of coaching, development and quality of play on those teams.

Coaching? The "4th" team is now coached by the 2017 A team coach. Mostly all new girls from teams listed above. I guess we will see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

This is getting old.
1-Girls from the 2nd/3rd teams are getting recruited with the help of CR, unlike BS who doesn't even return calls.
2-The 3&4 2021 YJ teams will probably beat most other LI teams since they are now made up of all new girls that jumped from TG, TLC, TE and 91.

Hate to break this to you but the 3rd and 4th YJ teams will not beat the othe LI clubs like Lib, TE and TG. They will play in the lowest possible brackets as they should. I also wouldn't expect much in they way of coaching, development and quality of play on those teams.

Coaching? The "4th" team is now coached by the 2017 A team coach. Mostly all new girls from teams listed above. I guess we will see.

They will be lucky to get college girls to coach those teams and they won't show up until June and will miss all the practices.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

This is getting old.
1-Girls from the 2nd/3rd teams are getting recruited with the help of CR, unlike BS who doesn't even return calls.
2-The 3&4 2021 YJ teams will probably beat most other LI teams since they are now made up of all new girls that jumped from TG, TLC, TE and 91.

Hate to break this to you but the 3rd and 4th YJ teams will not beat the othe LI clubs like Lib, TE and TG. They will play in the lowest possible brackets as they should. I also wouldn't expect much in they way of coaching, development and quality of play on those teams.

The C team played in the B bracket all of last year, but don't let facts get in the way. Only lost to TG A last year on LI (never played Lib), again, facts are annoying. But keep disparaging YJ and enjoy the LI tournaments your daughter's team will play in this summer against PAL teams, I'm sure she's learning a bunch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

This is getting old.
1-Girls from the 2nd/3rd teams are getting recruited with the help of CR, unlike BS who doesn't even return calls.
2-The 3&4 2021 YJ teams will probably beat most other LI teams since they are now made up of all new girls that jumped from TG, TLC, TE and 91.

Hate to break this to you but the 3rd and 4th YJ teams will not beat the othe LI clubs like Lib, TE and TG. They will play in the lowest possible brackets as they should. I also wouldn't expect much in they way of coaching, development and quality of play on those teams.

Coaching? The "4th" team is now coached by the 2017 A team coach. Mostly all new girls from teams listed above. I guess we will see.

They will be lucky to get college girls to coach those teams and they won't show up until June and will miss all the practices.

You must be referring to the TG College girl coaches. YJ already has winter indoor practice times with the adult coach. Nice try though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They also picked up 7 of the top 12 field players from the old TLC that was good. The team had a 95% turnover from year to year

CR won't do a thing for your kid, unless you are on the A team. If you get delegated to play B or C team, do yourself a favor and look to other clubs. CR only cares about the revenue from B and C players, not the team. We jumped to a new club last year, and my daughter has had a much better experience.

This is getting old.
1-Girls from the 2nd/3rd teams are getting recruited with the help of CR, unlike BS who doesn't even return calls.
2-The 3&4 2021 YJ teams will probably beat most other LI teams since they are now made up of all new girls that jumped from TG, TLC, TE and 91.

Hate to break this to you but the 3rd and 4th YJ teams will not beat the othe LI clubs like Lib, TE and TG. They will play in the lowest possible brackets as they should. I also wouldn't expect much in they way of coaching, development and quality of play on those teams.

Coaching? The "4th" team is now coached by the 2017 A team coach. Mostly all new girls from teams listed above. I guess we will see.

They will be lucky to get college girls to coach those teams and they won't show up until June and will miss all the practices.

There are way better options out there than YJ C,D,E and F teams. The only interest CR has in those teams is that your check clears, sign up for all the tournaments and buy lots of YJ swag

They will be lucky to get college girls to coach those teams and they won't show up until June and will miss all the practices. [/quote]

You must be referring to the TG College girl coaches. YJ already has winter indoor practice times with the adult coach. Nice try though. [/quote]

You really must be new to this! What indoor practices are you talking about? Registration to accept the spot hasn't even opened yet plus many of the kids who made the 3,4,5 team are looking for other options right now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They will be lucky to get college girls to coach those teams and they won't show up until June and will miss all the practices.

You must be referring to the TG College girl coaches. YJ already has winter indoor practice times with the adult coach. Nice try though. [/quote]

You really must be new to this! What indoor practices are you talking about? Registration to accept the spot hasn't even opened yet plus many of the kids who made the 3,4,5 team are looking for other options right now. [/quote]

The lengths people will go to be wrong. Indoor practices start January 8th, at several different locations depending on the team. Organized by the coach.

the winter indoor practices are for the non-athletes. Most athletes are participating in a winter sport to cross train than playing indoor wlax which is a waste of time.

sure...discourage others from doing what you are probably doing....tricky!! are you saying if a kid plays hoops or whatever they can't make an indoor lax session ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the winter indoor practices are for the non-athletes. Most athletes are participating in a winter sport to cross train than playing indoor wlax which is a waste of time.

Wrong again, the entire team participates. It's not games, it training and drills. Sunday morning or afternoon, attended by 90% - 95% of the team. All girls playing other sports, either in middle school, CYO basketball, volleyball. You name it. Everyone of them a multi-sport athlete. That's why they're so good.

No problem, you're wrong again. Now enjoy 91 or Beach Bums or Igloo or Leg A C, whatever team your daughter plays for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They will be lucky to get college girls to coach those teams and they won't show up until June and will miss all the practices.

You must be referring to the TG College girl coaches. YJ already has winter indoor practice times with the adult coach. Nice try though.

You really must be new to this! What indoor practices are you talking about? Registration to accept the spot hasn't even opened yet plus many of the kids who made the 3,4,5 team are looking for other options right now. [/quote]

The lengths people will go to be wrong. Indoor practices start January 8th, at several different locations depending on the team. Organized by the coach. [/quote]

Now I know you are new to YJ! Formally TG? If you made the 3,4 or 5th team I would ask the Smiths to take you back. The coach of those teams won't be there in January because she will be away at college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They will be lucky to get college girls to coach those teams and they won't show up until June and will miss all the practices.

You must be referring to the TG College girl coaches. YJ already has winter indoor practice times with the adult coach. Nice try though.

You really must be new to this! What indoor practices are you talking about? Registration to accept the spot hasn't even opened yet plus many of the kids who made the 3,4,5 team are looking for other options right now.

The lengths people will go to be wrong. Indoor practices start January 8th, at several different locations depending on the team. Organized by the coach. [/quote]

Now I know you are new to YJ! Formally TG? If you made the 3,4 or 5th team I would ask the Smiths to take you back. The coach of those teams won't be there in January because she will be away at college. [/quote]

Wrong again! Adult coach who already has practices scheduled!
Why are you so bitter? Because you saw the roster of the new "4th" team and its filled with all your former TG girls? Why don't you worry about your own daughter's team? You are so transparent with your bitterness with YJ. Move on and be happy.

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

YJ's are known for not practicing as much as a lot of other teams but that is because the A team is a traveling All STAR team. They attract the best kids around. If your kid isn't good enough to make the A team you would probably be better off with a team that focuses more on practice and stick skills. Don't be fooled that being on any other YJ team then the A team is the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

You must have him confused with your wife.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They will be lucky to get college girls to coach those teams and they won't show up until June and will miss all the practices.

You must be referring to the TG College girl coaches. YJ already has winter indoor practice times with the adult coach. Nice try though.

You really must be new to this! What indoor practices are you talking about? Registration to accept the spot hasn't even opened yet plus many of the kids who made the 3,4,5 team are looking for other options right now.

The lengths people will go to be wrong. Indoor practices start January 8th, at several different locations depending on the team. Organized by the coach.

Now I know you are new to YJ! Formally TG? If you made the 3,4 or 5th team I would ask the Smiths to take you back. The coach of those teams won't be there in January because she will be away at college. [/quote]

Wrong again! Adult coach who already has practices scheduled!
Why are you so bitter? Because you saw the roster of the new "4th" team and its filled with all your former TG girls? Why don't you worry about your own daughter's team? You are so transparent with your bitterness with YJ. Move on and be happy. [/quote]

The B team will practice all winter, and they need it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

You must have him confused with your wife.

You New [lacrosse] people are so embarrassing...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

What is this even about? please explain. would love to hear this!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

What is this even about? please explain. would love to hear this!!!!!

Defenders dad with a big mouth. Lives more vicariously through his daughter than even most lax parents (extreme).

this is the best cat fight of 2016 so far...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

What is this even about? please explain. would love to hear this!!!!!

Defenders dad with a big mouth. Lives more vicariously through his daughter than even most lax parents (extreme).

So first off 2021's have not received "offers" yet so your off there, the girls are just attending camps now and I know whom your talking about and he's never said anything about "offers" since we see him many times a week. Second for the last 3 years he sits away from the crowds at games, so for you to even hear 2 words from him during a game is wrong!. Third don't think you have the nerve to say it to him in person, that I would love to see! Good luck!

please pass along to him that he's a doosh. thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

What is this even about? please explain. would love to hear this!!!!!

Defenders dad with a big mouth. Lives more vicariously through his daughter than even most lax parents (extreme).

So first off 2021's have not received "offers" yet so your off there, the girls are just attending camps now and I know whom your talking about and he's never said anything about "offers" since we see him many times a week. Second for the last 3 years he sits away from the crowds at games, so for you to even hear 2 words from him during a game is wrong!. Third don't think you have the nerve to say it to him in person, that I would love to see! Good luck!

Sounds like someone's wifey-poo is touch upset....tell him when he gets done with his shift at Stop & Shop, to go see that trash talker...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

What is this even about? please explain. would love to hear this!!!!!

Defenders dad with a big mouth. Lives more vicariously through his daughter than even most lax parents (extreme).

So first off 2021's have not received "offers" yet so your off there, the girls are just attending camps now and I know whom your talking about and he's never said anything about "offers" since we see him many times a week. Second for the last 3 years he sits away from the crowds at games, so for you to even hear 2 words from him during a game is wrong!. Third don't think you have the nerve to say it to him in person, that I would love to see! Good luck!

No, you are talking about two different dads. The dad you speak of is also a defender dad, older daughter went to MD. He's a good dude and does sit away from the crowds. The guy being talked about is a defender dad, very "large", always with a hat and YJ sweatshirt on. He sits right on the sidelines and is verbal. Saw him get into it with a Skywalkers mom last year at Lax for the Cure. Both were wrong and it was embarrassing. People should just let their kids play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

What is this even about? please explain. would love to hear this!!!!!

Defenders dad with a big mouth. Lives more vicariously through his daughter than even most lax parents (extreme).

So first off 2021's have not received "offers" yet so your off there, the girls are just attending camps now and I know whom your talking about and he's never said anything about "offers" since we see him many times a week. Second for the last 3 years he sits away from the crowds at games, so for you to even hear 2 words from him during a game is wrong!. Third don't think you have the nerve to say it to him in person, that I would love to see! Good luck!

No, you are talking about two different dads. The dad you speak of is also a defender dad, older daughter went to MD. He's a good dude and does sit away from the crowds. The guy being talked about is a defender dad, very "large", always with a hat and YJ sweatshirt on. He sits right on the sidelines and is verbal. Saw him get into it with a Skywalkers mom last year at Lax for the Cure. Both were wrong and it was embarrassing. People should just let their kids play.

No I'm taking about that Dad since we're talking 2021, I know exactly who he is and your way off base. He does sit by himself most times. Really wish you had to sign your name here. Sitting behind a keyboard and trying to humiliate people is very cowardly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

What is this even about? please explain. would love to hear this!!!!!

Defenders dad with a big mouth. Lives more vicariously through his daughter than even most lax parents (extreme).

So first off 2021's have not received "offers" yet so your off there, the girls are just attending camps now and I know whom your talking about and he's never said anything about "offers" since we see him many times a week. Second for the last 3 years he sits away from the crowds at games, so for you to even hear 2 words from him during a game is wrong!. Third don't think you have the nerve to say it to him in person, that I would love to see! Good luck!

No, you are talking about two different dads. The dad you speak of is also a defender dad, older daughter went to MD. He's a good dude and does sit away from the crowds. The guy being talked about is a defender dad, very "large", always with a hat and YJ sweatshirt on. He sits right on the sidelines and is verbal. Saw him get into it with a Skywalkers mom last year at Lax for the Cure. Both were wrong and it was embarrassing. People should just let their kids play.

Dad being referred to is from BBP. Big mouth, all the time, everywhere.

oh how I wish people somehow could make videos of these incidents, (parents going at it on sidelines) how hysterical would this site be if they were posted. BOTC could charge like PPV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha... I found you. The fat, un-athletic, uncoordinated guy with the blue sweatshirt with a big YJ on it. Have another meatball hero. In between feedings tell everyone about all the offers "we" received.

What is this even about? please explain. would love to hear this!!!!!

Defenders dad with a big mouth. Lives more vicariously through his daughter than even most lax parents (extreme).

So first off 2021's have not received "offers" yet so your off there, the girls are just attending camps now and I know whom your talking about and he's never said anything about "offers" since we see him many times a week. Second for the last 3 years he sits away from the crowds at games, so for you to even hear 2 words from him during a game is wrong!. Third don't think you have the nerve to say it to him in person, that I would love to see! Good luck!

No, you are talking about two different dads. The dad you speak of is also a defender dad, older daughter went to MD. He's a good dude and does sit away from the crowds. The guy being talked about is a defender dad, very "large", always with a hat and YJ sweatshirt on. He sits right on the sidelines and is verbal. Saw him get into it with a Skywalkers mom last year at Lax for the Cure. Both were wrong and it was embarrassing. People should just let their kids play.

No I'm taking about that Dad since we're talking 2021, I know exactly who he is and your way off base. He does sit by himself most times. Really wish you had to sign your name here. Sitting behind a keyboard and trying to humiliate people is very cowardly.

Ok so I'm the fat dad of the defender. Wasn't going to comment but what the heck, why not! I have NEVER said one word to my daughter, EVER about her playing during or after a game!! EVER!!!! I have commented on terrible officiating at tournaments in the past. I admit that, I've worked extremely hard to curb that big time and it's been a few years since I've commented to a ref. I have been sitting by myself in 90% of the games but definitely 100% in all the competitive games as to not get caught up in the banter. So saying you seen this last year is an outright lie!!! TN

How about some constructive discussion- anybody have any input on the Brine Northstar Invitational?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about some constructive discussion- anybody have any input on the Brine Northstar Invitational?

My daughter has done this in the past, it's run very well and is a good value.
There will be college coaches in attendance..
Lake placid is a beautiful place in the summer

Thoughts on NXT Summer Showcase ?

Winter Blitz at Lanco Fieldhouse - predominantly YJ ?

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

And she is a lax guru😳Good luck!
She be able to steal more players with empty promises than skak

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

And she is a lax guru😳Good luck!
She be able to steal more players with empty promises than skak

She doesn't steal players, the best want to play for her. Happens every year as the girls get older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

This team doesn't need a turn around. They are head and shoulders above all other Teams on Long Island, and only two or three other top teams in the nation can trade wins with them. Just like every other YJ age groups top team. Do you think if you keep posting nonsense enough it will become true?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

This team doesn't need a turn around. They are head and shoulders above all other Teams on Long Island, and only two or three other top teams in the nation can trade wins with them. Just like every other YJ age groups top team. Do you think if you keep posting nonsense enough it will become true?

Trading wins? I thought they lost all summer and fall to the better MD teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

This team doesn't need a turn around. They are head and shoulders above all other Teams on Long Island, and only two or three other top teams in the nation can trade wins with them. Just like every other YJ age groups top team. Do you think if you keep posting nonsense enough it will become true?

Trading wins? I thought they lost all summer and fall to the better MD teams?

They beat M&D 2 summers ago. I guess you can call that trading wins. Lost both times to Skywalkers since 2 summers ago. Seems like a lopsided trade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

This team doesn't need a turn around. They are head and shoulders above all other Teams on Long Island, and only two or three other top teams in the nation can trade wins with them. Just like every other YJ age groups top team. Do you think if you keep posting nonsense enough it will become true?

Trading wins? I thought they lost all summer and fall to the better MD teams?

They beat M&D 2 summers ago. I guess you can call that trading wins. Lost both times to Skywalkers since 2 summers ago. Seems like a lopsided trade.

Who cares about two summers ago! Unless this is a joke that's the most pathetic statement I have read.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

This team doesn't need a turn around. They are head and shoulders above all other Teams on Long Island, and only two or three other top teams in the nation can trade wins with them. Just like every other YJ age groups top team. Do you think if you keep posting nonsense enough it will become true?

Trading wins? I thought they lost all summer and fall to the better MD teams?

They beat M&D 2 summers ago. I guess you can call that trading wins. Lost both times to Skywalkers since 2 summers ago. Seems like a lopsided trade.

Who cares about two summers ago! Unless this is a joke that's the most pathetic statement I have read.

Agreed! Lol! The team stinks. If they have to bring up a win from two years ago, that basically sums it up.

Has anyone on LI beaten them?

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will CR be able to turn the Skak team around this summer?

I would expect a considerable improvement as Skak never committed any time to this team in the winter or summer. CR did not take over this team to lose.

This team doesn't need a turn around. They are head and shoulders above all other Teams on Long Island, and only two or three other top teams in the nation can trade wins with them. Just like every other YJ age groups top team. Do you think if you keep posting nonsense enough it will become true?

Trading wins? I thought they lost all summer and fall to the better MD teams?

The only team they lost all summer to was M&D . Lost once to Skywalkers in the summer and once in the fall by 1 goal both times . Lost to Hero's for the 1st time ever in the fall again by 1 goal.. . They are losses all the same .Time for these LI girls to return to run and gun and have some fun. Time to go to work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone on LI beaten them?

This team was definitely beatable last summer but CR plugged the holes with fresh talent. They struggled on the draw and turned the ball over way too much. I would expect to see a big turnaround next summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Obsessive, creepy that you know so much about a team your daughter is obviously not on. Or maybe jealous, whatever drives you, it is not healthy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Almost accurate , YJ beat Heros in the summer the week before Heros beat M&D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Obsessive, creepy that you know so much about a team your daughter is obviously not on. Or maybe jealous, whatever drives you, it is not healthy.

Far cry from trading wins unless of course we count fourth grade!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Obsessive, creepy that you know so much about a team your daughter is obviously not on. Or maybe jealous, whatever drives you, it is not healthy.

Or maybe your are just a sore loser who thinks he daughters team is better than it is. The word is mediocre, deal with it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Obsessive, creepy that you know so much about a team your daughter is obviously not on. Or maybe jealous, whatever drives you, it is not healthy.

Why would i be jealous? My daughter plays on one of the MD teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Obsessive, creepy that you know so much about a team your daughter is obviously not on. Or maybe jealous, whatever drives you, it is not healthy.

Why would i be jealous? My daughter plays on one of the MD teams

Ok, then we can leave jealous off the list, so you are merely obsessive and creepy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Obsessive, creepy that you know so much about a team your daughter is obviously not on. Or maybe jealous, whatever drives you, it is not healthy.

Why would i be jealous? My daughter plays on one of the MD teams

Ok, then we can leave jealous off the list, so you are merely obsessive and creepy.

Why? Because lax is being discussed on a lax forum? If you can't handle that you should step away from the computer. Something is said that you don't agree with and you get all defensive. Typical LI parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Almost accurate , YJ beat Heros in the summer the week before Heros beat M&D.

What are you talking about? Heros has never beaten M&D. Ever. M&D has lost 1 game in last 2 years and it was this fall to Skywalkers in a final.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Almost accurate , YJ beat Heros in the summer the week before Heros beat M&D.

What are you talking about? Heros has never beaten M&D. Ever. M&D has lost 1 game in last 2 years and it was this fall to Skywalkers in a final.

You are not an M&D parent obviously, or have a selective memory.

wow. what a bunch of drivel. MD parents......go eat a crab cake because nobody cares.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers and MD United are the only teams that has been them in three years

Pretty sure you mean M&D. MD United has never beaten YJ.

Since last summer, YJ has lost to M&D 3 times, Skywalkers twice, Stars and Heros. With zero wins against any of them. Maybe they should stay on the island.

Almost accurate , YJ beat Heros in the summer the week before Heros beat M&D.

What are you talking about? Heros has never beaten M&D. Ever. M&D has lost 1 game in last 2 years and it was this fall to Skywalkers in a final.

You are not an M&D parent obviously, or have a selective memory.

I don't have a selective memory. Please feel free to tell me when Heros beat M&D. It's never happened. They tied at Lax for the Cure 2 summers ago when Heros goalie was absolutely amazing. M&D has won every other game. Even this fall when Heros had big leads in first half twice.

Only 3 2021 teams have ever beaten M&D. And only once in a full game when YJ beat them 2 years ago. MD United and Skywalkers both beat them in 25 minute finals. Sorry Heros dad. I know Henry's life will not be fulfilled until they win, but it's never happened.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow. what a bunch of drivel. MD parents......go eat a crab cake because nobody cares.

Is it drivel because YJ isn't in the same league as the MD teams? If you're not the center of attention the lax talk shouldn't go on? Give me a break and get back to practice so you be in the discussion with the best teams.

If the Hero's goalie's so amazing then how come they always lose to M&D with big leads, sounds like she can't play a full game

On a less argumentative topic, are many of your daughters attending camps at colleges this week and in the summer with an eye towards recruiting or do you think it is too early. Obviously going to a camp can be for fun but my question is specifically recruiting-related. Now back to you r fighting...):

The goalie for Heros will go to a top 5 school. If you disagree, then you are a disgruntled B team parent or someone stirring up trouble. Either way get over it. She only plays a half because that's what they do. Bring two goalies along. Not about beating mnd but doing what's best for the girls. My kid is happy to b on the second best lacrosse team in this age group. And likes a lot of the mnd girls she competes against in many sports other than lax.

Don't go to camps unless you are specifically invited. Save the $$.

That's not necessarily true about attending camps if your not invited. This is not a brag btw. My kid went to several college camps and was spotted. Dialogue followed with club/coaches. Not every one but several. we had our club dir. send a message in advance to keep an eye out for her. It depends on your kids level of play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's not necessarily true about attending camps if your not invited. This is not a brag btw. My kid went to several college camps and was spotted. Dialogue followed with club/coaches. Not every one but several. we had our club dir. send a message in advance to keep an eye out for her. It depends on your kids level of play.

Agree. Always best for the player to email coaches in advance of camp, send film if she has it (some coaches will watch film, some not so much but can't hurt) and have club coach reach out on behalf of player. But I do think good players have a shot at being noticed at college camps and clinics even if not specifically invited - can be worth the cost and time for a school that seems like a great. Not trying to be harsh, but there are always girls at these camps and clinics who aren't close to having the skills needed to ever be recruited by the host school. Parents and players need to be realistic about college options.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The goalie for Heros will go to a top 5 school. If you disagree, then you are a disgruntled B team parent or someone stirring up trouble. Either way get over it. She only plays a half because that's what they do. Bring two goalies along. Not about beating mnd but doing what's best for the girls. My kid is happy to b on the second best lacrosse team in this age group. And likes a lot of the mnd girls she competes against in many sports other than lax.

Don't go to camps unless you are specifically invited. Save the $$.

If you are referring to Hero's go 4th or 5th team in country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The goalie for Heros will go to a top 5 school. If you disagree, then you are a disgruntled B team parent or someone stirring up trouble. Either way get over it. She only plays a half because that's what they do. Bring two goalies along. Not about beating mnd but doing what's best for the girls. My kid is happy to b on the second best lacrosse team in this age group. And likes a lot of the mnd girls she competes against in many sports other than lax.

Don't go to camps unless you are specifically invited. Save the $$.

If you are referring to Hero's go 4th or 5th team in country.

Every time I see someone say something about which club is the "best" in the country I always laugh. I always wonder what criteria you're using to make your assessment. In reality, there is no "best" team because there is no single, all-encompassing set of criteria. No true national championship tournament. Nothing. It's all personal opinion, which in this type of argument, counts for nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The goalie for Heros will go to a top 5 school. If you disagree, then you are a disgruntled B team parent or someone stirring up trouble. Either way get over it. She only plays a half because that's what they do. Bring two goalies along. Not about beating mnd but doing what's best for the girls. My kid is happy to b on the second best lacrosse team in this age group. And likes a lot of the mnd girls she competes against in many sports other than lax.

Don't go to camps unless you are specifically invited. Save the $$.

If you are referring to Hero's go 4th or 5th team in country.

Every time I see someone say something about which club is the "best" in the country I always laugh. I always wonder what criteria you're using to make your assessment. In reality, there is no "best" team because there is no single, all-encompassing set of criteria. No true national championship tournament. Nothing. It's all personal opinion, which in this type of argument, counts for nothing.

Actually there are many descent criteria used with the most important being head to head match ups. If you happen to not play some of the commonly accepted better teams than you have nothing to complain about when no one considers your team to be near the top. In the 2021 age group I do not think there is any question MD is the top team in this age group at this time. No I am not an Md.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The goalie for Heros will go to a top 5 school. If you disagree, then you are a disgruntled B team parent or someone stirring up trouble. Either way get over it. She only plays a half because that's what they do. Bring two goalies along. Not about beating mnd but doing what's best for the girls. My kid is happy to b on the second best lacrosse team in this age group. And likes a lot of the mnd girls she competes against in many sports other than lax.

Don't go to camps unless you are specifically invited. Save the $$.

How do you know she will go to a top 5 school. There could be other 2021 goalies in NY, NJ, PA, FL, CA, CO that are better. Maybe she does not want to go to a top 5 school...Stop be so presumptuous of an 8th grader.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The goalie for Heros will go to a top 5 school. If you disagree, then you are a disgruntled B team parent or someone stirring up trouble. Either way get over it. She only plays a half because that's what they do. Bring two goalies along. Not about beating mnd but doing what's best for the girls. My kid is happy to b on the second best lacrosse team in this age group. And likes a lot of the mnd girls she competes against in many sports other than lax.

Don't go to camps unless you are specifically invited. Save the $$.

If you are referring to Hero's go 4th or 5th team in country.

Every time I see someone say something about which club is the "best" in the country I always laugh. I always wonder what criteria you're using to make your assessment. In reality, there is no "best" team because there is no single, all-encompassing set of criteria. No true national championship tournament. Nothing. It's all personal opinion, which in this type of argument, counts for nothing.

You are absolutely right.. Top Guns is the best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The goalie for Heros will go to a top 5 school. If you disagree, then you are a disgruntled B team parent or someone stirring up trouble. Either way get over it. She only plays a half because that's what they do. Bring two goalies along. Not about beating mnd but doing what's best for the girls. My kid is happy to b on the second best lacrosse team in this age group. And likes a lot of the mnd girls she competes against in many sports other than lax.

Don't go to camps unless you are specifically invited. Save the $$.

If you are referring to Hero's go 4th or 5th team in country.

Every time I see someone say something about which club is the "best" in the country I always laugh. I always wonder what criteria you're using to make your assessment. In reality, there is no "best" team because there is no single, all-encompassing set of criteria. No true national championship tournament. Nothing. It's all personal opinion, which in this type of argument, counts for nothing.

Actually there are many descent criteria used with the most important being head to head match ups. If you happen to not play some of the commonly accepted better teams than you have nothing to complain about when no one considers your team to be near the top. In the 2021 age group I do not think there is any question MD is the top team in this age group at this time. No I am not an Md.

What does being the best really count for? Who decides who's the best, and what point does it prove? At the present time, there is NO WAY to determine which club team is the "best". There is no across-the-board system to rate teams. Since they do not all play head-to-head any ranking is pointless. My thought is that the "best" is determined by asking the girls who played and then went on and played in college. If they had a good time with their club, learned how to be good team mates and better players and then were able to parlay that into a reduced tuition in the college of their choice, then THAT is what makes a club team the "best" in my opinion. And, by that rating system, there are many, many, many "best" club teams...not just one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The goalie for Heros will go to a top 5 school. If you disagree, then you are a disgruntled B team parent or someone stirring up trouble. Either way get over it. She only plays a half because that's what they do. Bring two goalies along. Not about beating mnd but doing what's best for the girls. My kid is happy to b on the second best lacrosse team in this age group. And likes a lot of the mnd girls she competes against in many sports other than lax.

Don't go to camps unless you are specifically invited. Save the $$.

If you are referring to Hero's go 4th or 5th team in country.

Every time I see someone say something about which club is the "best" in the country I always laugh. I always wonder what criteria you're using to make your assessment. In reality, there is no "best" team because there is no single, all-encompassing set of criteria. No true national championship tournament. Nothing. It's all personal opinion, which in this type of argument, counts for nothing.

Actually there are many descent criteria used with the most important being head to head match ups. If you happen to not play some of the commonly accepted better teams than you have nothing to complain about when no one considers your team to be near the top. In the 2021 age group I do not think there is any question MD is the top team in this age group at this time. No I am not an Md.

My daughter is a freshman on a mid-major D1 team. She absolutely thinks her experience on her club was the best. She loved her time playing with them and wouldn't trade it for anything. That's what the "best" means to me.

Couldn't agree more . Try to size your kid up against the competition any chance you can and be realistic. They need to do things that will make them stand out from the pack and sometimes that can be just doing the fundamentals better!

This guy just nailed it! Excellent points!

Anyone receive a UA 150 invite today ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If the Hero's goalie's so amazing then how come they always lose to M&D with big leads, sounds like she can't play a full game

They have two goalies who split time. One is amazing, the other not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone receive a UA 150 invite today ?

8pm tonight, emails go out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone receive a UA 150 invite today ?

My daughter got hers yesterday. The top players have already received invites. The lower tier invites start going out tonight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone receive a UA 150 invite today ?

My daughter got hers yesterday. The top players have already received invites. The lower tier invites start going out tonight.

[lacrosse]

it would be so great to know who posted that. I would forward and that would take care of that. you are some [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone receive a UA 150 invite today ?

My daughter got hers yesterday. The top players have already received invites. The lower tier invites start going out tonight.

[lacrosse]

He's full of sh*t. ALL invites go out at 8pm est.

Hahaha I bet it's somebody just yanking your chain

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If the Hero's goalie's so amazing then how come they always lose to M&D with big leads, sounds like she can't play a full game

They have two goalies who split time. One is amazing, the other not so much.

quessing your the amazing one's parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone receive a UA 150 invite today ?

My daughter got hers yesterday. The top players have already received invites. The lower tier invites start going out tonight.

[lacrosse]

He's full of sh*t. ALL invites go out at 8pm est.

If a Non A team kid asks for a referral from their coach do they get it? Curious about this for all clubs.

UA 150 is a B level showcase . Elite 120 is the premier showcase . Get an invite from there and you will be happy. Most of Top schools and talent attend that event. Look at the list from last year .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If the Hero's goalie's so amazing then how come they always lose to M&D with big leads, sounds like she can't play a full game

They have two goalies who split time. One is amazing, the other not so much.

quessing your the amazing one's parent.

No. Not even a daughter on the team. But have played them enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UA 150 is a B level showcase . Elite 120 is the premier showcase . Get an invite from there and you will be happy. Most of Top schools and talent attend that event. Look at the list from last year .

That remains to be seen. I agree the Nike Elite is the premier combine type event, that's why you see all these other sponser companies trying to run there own version. Under Armour does a great job with the regional team tournament, that is certainly elite. But that does not translate to this event. I know many of the top girls opted out of this thing. Might turn out to be a good event or someday become a good event, who knows.

Would you guy go to both if selected, or just the Nike 120

Is there a website or link for the Nike 120? Can't seem to find it in Google. Thanks!

www.elite120.com

If you can get her in elite 120 you do not need UA150. Very selective for a reason. Best coaches there. Very high percentage of the kids are going to very schools for academics and high level of lax. My daughter went last year and got several looks and follow ups. She is 2019 and all set. Good luck

http://elite120lax.com/

My 2021 daughter was asked to both. She asked her older, committed friends about Nike and they all agreed that it was a great event but generated no leads with coaches. The earliest leads came during/after the following summer. She declined b/c we live in Maryland and the event required hotel stay(s) and travel over a holiday weekend. She accepted the UA event because it is local and combines Chris Robinson and UA. If it is not a great event yet, it will be.

If this is your first time doing this, try to keep your emotions in check and prioritize your time and money. I felt pressured to do everything with my first child. It worked out but many, many of his friends and peers are committed and they did not do Jake Reed, Maverick, Adrenaline, Philly Freshman, etc. They played in good tournaments with their club teams and their HS teams and their coaches worked hard on their behalf (they have to have an advocate who knows the coaching community.)

My 2c. Good luck.

Thank you for the website!

Hey Skywalkers. What happened to your team? I heard M&D was missing 1/3 of their team and they still absolutely blew you out. No defense, no offense - can't catch the ball, no good. Isolation middle dodges does not work at this level. We were hoping for a bit more competition than that. Back to the drawing board getting ready for Spring or you will have a long, long season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Skywalkers. What happened to your team? I heard M&D was missing 1/3 of their team and they still absolutely blew you out. No defense, no offense - can't catch the ball, no good. Isolation middle dodges does not work at this level. We were hoping for a bit more competition than that. Back to the drawing board getting ready for Spring or you will have a long, long season.

Stop it.. You can't say i heard M&D was missing players and then say we were hoping for more competition. No M&D parent posted this. The smaller fields and format certainly benefit M&D because they have better stick skills where SW tries to use their 3 horses to run it down the field and score or draw an 8 meter. 25-8 was sweet though. Not gonna lie.

M&D Parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Skywalkers. What happened to your team? I heard M&D was missing 1/3 of their team and they still absolutely blew you out. No defense, no offense - can't catch the ball, no good. Isolation middle dodges does not work at this level. We were hoping for a bit more competition than that. Back to the drawing board getting ready for Spring or you will have a long, long season.

I truly hope this is a kid, otherwise this is completely pathetic. "We" were hoping for more competition. this is 8th grad 7v7 tournament, please. And I am a NJ parent that has absolutely nothing to do with this game. you are everything that is wrong about this sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Skywalkers. What happened to your team? I heard M&D was missing 1/3 of their team and they still absolutely blew you out. No defense, no offense - can't catch the ball, no good. Isolation middle dodges does not work at this level. We were hoping for a bit more competition than that. Back to the drawing board getting ready for Spring or you will have a long, long season.

Stop it.. You can't say i heard M&D was missing players and then say we were hoping for more competition. No M&D parent posted this. The smaller fields and format certainly benefit M&D because they have better stick skills where SW tries to use their 3 horses to run it down the field and score or draw an 8 meter. 25-8 was sweet though. Not gonna lie.

M&D Parent

YOU ARE THE MOST PATHETIC PARENT OR PLAYER THERE IS! GROW THE F UP!

Must be a Hero's parent trolling

I'd say a drunk post. Pathetic. You have a problem and should get help

What's pathetic is the behavior of the SW parents at this game screaming at 8th grade girls on the other team while their daughters were intentionally trying to hurt the M&D girls. Funny how you can talk smack when you win but when you are getting worked that you turn into a crazed mob.

Crazed mob?? I thought both sides were relatively well behaved. SW has some work to do this Spring but should be a better team in the summer. M&D is a well oiled machine no doubt.

its just a bunch of rosie odonnell looking moms. same proclivities as well probably.

Sounds like a disgruntled Skywalkers parent unhappy with their daughters playing time

Looks like CR picked up the YJ A team???

YJ2021 commit to Penn State.

Yay for yj. Best club ever. What are you looking for?

[quote=Anonymous]YJ2021 commit to Penn State.

Thanks dad , maybe you paste that all over social media like every little thing your kid has ever done for the past year, oh wait you already have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]YJ2021 commit to Penn State.

Thanks dad , maybe you paste that all over social media like every little thing your kid has ever done for the past year, oh wait you already have.

. Congratulations , I wouldn't pay too much attention to those who can't get past their jealousies. Hey if making a commitment isn't for your child don't do it. Apparently this makes sense to this young lady and her family. Best of luck !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's pathetic is the behavior of the SW parents at this game screaming at 8th grade girls on the other team while their daughters were intentionally trying to hurt the M&D girls. Funny how you can talk smack when you win but when you are getting worked that you turn into a crazed mob.

True story a SW Dad storms away from his wife stating " I can't stand to watch a game standing next to you" Big mouth Mom complaining that her little actress is being fouled meanwhile anytime an opposing player comes close to her she flails her arms and shekels her head begging for a foul. PRICELESS !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]YJ2021 commit to Penn State.

Thanks dad , maybe you paste that all over social media like every little thing your kid has ever done for the past year, oh wait you already have.

And.............here come the vile jealous comments, cant anyone be happy for a young persons accomplishments, of course the parents are proud as well they should be.

Are you serious, poster ^^ ? I am not from NY and your jealousy is apparent. Dads twitter is full of football with an occasional post about his 2021 daughter. Most of it is retweeted from other media. Sour grapes much ?? As the parent of a 2021, I wish this young lady who must be quite deserving, the best of luck. My 2021 daughter was very excited in her behalf, knowing how much hard work she must have done to get where she is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you serious, poster ^^ ? I am not from NY and your jealousy is apparent. Dads twitter is full of football with an occasional post about his 2021 daughter. Most of it is retweeted from other media. Sour grapes much ?? As the parent of a 2021, I wish this young lady who must be quite deserving, the best of luck. My 2021 daughter was very excited in her behalf, knowing how much hard work she must have done to get where she is.

You're not from NY but you follow her dad?? Stalk much?? That's either really creepy or you're his wife and sitting next to him right now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you serious, poster ^^ ? I am not from NY and your jealousy is apparent. Dads twitter is full of football with an occasional post about his 2021 daughter. Most of it is retweeted from other media. Sour grapes much ?? As the parent of a 2021, I wish this young lady who must be quite deserving, the best of luck. My 2021 daughter was very excited in her behalf, knowing how much hard work she must have done to get where she is.

You're not from NY but you follow her dad?? Stalk much?? That's either really creepy or you're his wife and sitting next to him right now.

Honestly do not care that this kid committed but this YJ age in particular is brutal with the social media nonsense.If they just would have saved their money from the hundreds of camps they have done they would not need to worry about scholorships.

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Will most lacrosse be moving toward the U9/U10/U11 model that is supposed to go into affect September 2017? Wonder how that will affect clubs, or existing teams.

[quote=Anonymous]Will most lacrosse be moving toward the U9/U10/U11 model that is supposed to go into affect September 2017? Wonder how that will affect clubs, or existing teams.

According to US lacrosse yes the new age model is supposed to go into effect.

Penn State announced they hired a new womens coach today... are the verbals in jeopardy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will most lacrosse be moving toward the U9/U10/U11 model that is supposed to go into affect September 2017? Wonder how that will affect clubs, or existing teams.

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Will most lacrosse be moving toward the U9/U10/U11 model that is supposed to go into affect September 2017? Wonder how that will affect clubs, or existing teams.

According to US lacrosse yes the new age model is supposed to go into effect.

US Lacrosse has no control over the club teams and the clubs are the ones who run the tournaments. So the answer is no, LI, PA, NJ and Maryland will remain grade based.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Wake up. She's far from being the best one on that team. Politics as usual. Dad sold her through his connections.

Sorry.. Assistant Head Coach at Penn State.. reading comprehension off a bit today..
Great School.. good luck

...Associate Head Coach @ P.S.U ...

They didn't hire a new coach, just promoted an assistant

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Wake up. She's far from being the best one on that team. Politics as usual. Dad sold her through his connections.

Nobody said she was the best or wasn't the best. Once again the negativity and jealously are unbelievable. He father sold her through his connections???? SO Penn State committed to her because her father is a HS football coach and has communicated with them over football recruits in the past? So you are implying the football staff at PSU influenced the women's lax staff to commit to this girl. It has nothing to do with her hard work and abilities? Sorry your post reeks of Jealously... anyone with half a brain can tell that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]YJ2021 commit to Penn State.

Thanks dad , maybe you paste that all over social media like every little thing your kid has ever done for the past year, oh wait you already have.

Penn State is and will be the hottest school to be at for many years to come. Football, Wrestling, Hockey, women soccer, mens soccer, women field hockey, women lax, woman basketball, volleyball are all on fire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Wake up. She's far from being the best one on that team. Politics as usual. Dad sold her through his connections.

Nobody said she was the best or wasn't the best. Once again the negativity and jealously are unbelievable. He father sold her through his connections???? SO Penn State committed to her because her father is a HS football coach and has communicated with them over football recruits in the past? So you are implying the football staff at PSU influenced the women's lax staff to commit to this girl. It has nothing to do with her hard work and abilities? Sorry your post reeks of Jealously... anyone with half a brain can tell that.

Father knows how to work the system, dont kid yourself if you think he had nothing to do with it. You would think she was the only member of the yj 2021 team according to the media.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Wake up. She's far from being the best one on that team. Politics as usual. Dad sold her through his connections.

Nobody said she was the best or wasn't the best. Once again the negativity and jealously are unbelievable. He father sold her through his connections???? SO Penn State committed to her because her father is a HS football coach and has communicated with them over football recruits in the past? So you are implying the football staff at PSU influenced the women's lax staff to commit to this girl. It has nothing to do with her hard work and abilities? Sorry your post reeks of Jealously... anyone with half a brain can tell that.

Father knows how to work the system, dont kid yourself if you think he had nothing to do with it. You would think she was the only member of the yj 2021 team according to the media.

I just love a committ that has no connections what-do-ever. Sister didn't play at the school, mom & dad didn't graduate from and now contribute boat loads of money to the school, etc. A kid who gets in just because they're good and work hard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Wake up. She's far from being the best one on that team. Politics as usual. Dad sold her through his connections.

Nobody said she was the best or wasn't the best. Once again the negativity and jealously are unbelievable. He father sold her through his connections???? SO Penn State committed to her because her father is a HS football coach and has communicated with them over football recruits in the past? So you are implying the football staff at PSU influenced the women's lax staff to commit to this girl. It has nothing to do with her hard work and abilities? Sorry your post reeks of Jealously... anyone with half a brain can tell that.

Father knows how to work the system, dont kid yourself if you think he had nothing to do with it. You would think she was the only member of the yj 2021 team according to the media.

Exactly

Does anyone know of any clinics specifically for defenders?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Wake up. She's far from being the best one on that team. Politics as usual. Dad sold her through his connections.

Nobody said she was the best or wasn't the best. Once again the negativity and jealously are unbelievable. He father sold her through his connections???? SO Penn State committed to her because her father is a HS football coach and has communicated with them over football recruits in the past? So you are implying the football staff at PSU influenced the women's lax staff to commit to this girl. It has nothing to do with her hard work and abilities? Sorry your post reeks of Jealously... anyone with half a brain can tell that.

Father knows how to work the system, dont kid yourself if you think he had nothing to do with it. You would think she was the only member of the yj 2021 team according to the media.

Exactly

Work the system? Knowing what questions to ask, what to look for, knowing what the parents want, knowing what to accept and what to pass on, is working the system? You make it sound like they pulled something over PSU. Trust me, PSU is no being fooled. They also know what they want and liked what they see and were willing to invest a spot, money and future. I am pretty sure the parents didn't force PSU into the offer. Once again your post screams of jealously. "Why isn't my daughter getting this attention?" Maybe if you ask nicely you can ask them the secrets on how to "work the system?"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Wake up. She's far from being the best one on that team. Politics as usual. Dad sold her through his connections.

Nobody said she was the best or wasn't the best. Once again the negativity and jealously are unbelievable. He father sold her through his connections???? SO Penn State committed to her because her father is a HS football coach and has communicated with them over football recruits in the past? So you are implying the football staff at PSU influenced the women's lax staff to commit to this girl. It has nothing to do with her hard work and abilities? Sorry your post reeks of Jealously... anyone with half a brain can tell that.

Father knows how to work the system, dont kid yourself if you think he had nothing to do with it. You would think she was the only member of the yj 2021 team according to the media.

Yes, I think the father (and mother) had a lot to do with it. They should be proud their hard work with their daughter paid off. Have your daughter keeping working hard her time will come too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know of any clinics specifically for defenders?

I have never seen one and I've kept my eyes open.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know of any clinics specifically for defenders?

I have never seen one and I've kept my eyes open.

YJ used to offer a defense clinic at KK and Northsport also offered shooting and stick handling on Sunday's in Dec and Jan not sure of any others. These were great clinics open to anyone regardless of what club you played for.

Isn't this the same 2021 who was suspended for several games last year because of disparaging remarks a teammate on social media? I thought these collage coaches look at that stuff.

Also pretty weird that several top girls at the camp they had a few weeks ago at PSU were told that PSU is not recruiting any 2021's because they were too young. That was straight from Doherty. All of a sudden they have this commit? Either she committed without a package offer (parents ego), the coaches are talking out of both sides of their mouths or some other fishy thing went on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I follow YJ twitter because I enjoy the game and we play their teams. My 14 year old also follows Coach Rose and many other twitters and Instagram of players all over the country and has had fun meeting these girls at tournaments. Of course I googled her - I'm sure everyone did and if you didn't, good for you. I googled the Navy commit also. Your jealousy is astounding. Are you the parent of a teammate ? What a tool.

Wake up. She's far from being the best one on that team. Politics as usual. Dad sold her through his connections.

Nobody said she was the best or wasn't the best. Once again the negativity and jealously are unbelievable. He father sold her through his connections???? SO Penn State committed to her because her father is a HS football coach and has communicated with them over football recruits in the past? So you are implying the football staff at PSU influenced the women's lax staff to commit to this girl. It has nothing to do with her hard work and abilities? Sorry your post reeks of Jealously... anyone with half a brain can tell that.

Father knows how to work the system, dont kid yourself if you think he had nothing to do with it. You would think she was the only member of the yj 2021 team according to the media.

I just love a committ that has no connections what-do-ever. Sister didn't play at the school, mom & dad didn't graduate from and now contribute boat loads of money to the school, etc. A kid who gets in just because they're good and work hard.

The jealousy from many of you with comments like this and particularly the one you are responding to never ceases to amaze me. Really simply, the girl would not be recruited by PSU unless the coaches thought she was a great fit for their team and system. With limited spots on the team and scholarship money available, coaches don't just take girls to take them. I hear the same argument about high school coaches and why it is politics that a particular girls is playing. Bottom line is that coaches want to win and they are incentivized to do so. Stop the crap and jealousy and be happy for the kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't this the same 2021 who was suspended for several games last year because of disparaging remarks a teammate on social media? I thought these collage coaches look at that stuff.

Also pretty weird that several top girls at the camp they had a few weeks ago at PSU were told that PSU is not recruiting any 2021's because they were too young. That was straight from Doherty. All of a sudden they have this commit? Either she committed without a package offer (parents ego), the coaches are talking out of both sides of their mouths or some other fishy thing went on.

Well I can tell you that the coaches absolutely talk out of both sides of their mouth. On the boys side the Ivies claimed they would never recruit a kid without at least a year of HS grades, There are currently 5 without even one semester of grades!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't this the same 2021 who was suspended for several games last year because of disparaging remarks a teammate on social media? I thought these collage coaches look at that stuff.

Also pretty weird that several top girls at the camp they had a few weeks ago at PSU were told that PSU is not recruiting any 2021's because they were too young. That was straight from Doherty. All of a sudden they have this commit? Either she committed without a package offer (parents ego), the coaches are talking out of both sides of their mouths or some other fishy thing went on.

I know the girl and father/family very well, actually sat in room with PSU coach when she said they are not looking at 2021's yet. But this girl has worked extremely hard and has something that the coaches obviously like, enough to convince coach to make an exception. Congrats to her and her family. She wouldn't be going there if she wasn't deserving. Her father knows the recruiting process very well from football and was able to apply this recruiting knowledge for his daughter in lacrosse. Should be a lesson for everyone here, determination and goals, go out and make it happen, she had the goals and determination and they made it happen. Do you really need to go digging up dirt or spewing conspiracy theories on an anonymous thread? There are plenty of schools out there and plenty of spots on all of them, there are also tons of deserving girls to get those spots. Again congrats to this girl and her family. -T.S.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't this the same 2021 who was suspended for several games last year because of disparaging remarks a teammate on social media? I thought these collage coaches look at that stuff.

Also pretty weird that several top girls at the camp they had a few weeks ago at PSU were told that PSU is not recruiting any 2021's because they were too young. That was straight from Doherty. All of a sudden they have this commit? Either she committed without a package offer (parents ego), the coaches are talking out of both sides of their mouths or some other fishy thing went on.

I know the girl and father/family very well, actually sat in room with PSU coach when she said they are not looking at 2021's yet. But this girl has worked extremely hard and has something that the coaches obviously like, enough to convince coach to make an exception. Congrats to her and her family. She wouldn't be going there if she wasn't deserving. Her father knows the recruiting process very well from football and was able to apply this recruiting knowledge for his daughter in lacrosse. Should be a lesson for everyone here, determination and goals, go out and make it happen, she had the goals and determination and they made it happen. Do you really need to go digging up dirt or spewing conspiracy theories on an anonymous thread? There are plenty of schools out there and plenty of spots on all of them, there are also tons of deserving girls to get those spots. Again congrats to this girl and her family. -T.S.

I'm assuming you have older kids, no way you can be a 2021 parent with this much knowledge of recruiting...if people have learned anything you will be seeing every kids visit and camp photo in the media.

Just curious how many of you actually saw an actual statement from PSU coach directly committing verbally to the YJ 2021-that would be a NO. Against NCAA regulations to verbally commit any player. Until an NLI is signed in senior year no player is "committed". All these young players do is take themselves out of the running at other schools by "verbally committing" at such a young age. This is a "gentleman's handshake" at best. Several things can happen between now and 2021: The coach can leave the program and the new coach can decommit all non-signed NLI "verbal commits" if they want. There is nothing in writing. Players can also de-commit until they sign an NLI so it is a virtual merry-go-round for 4 years. The bottom line is if you know where you want to go and you have had "conversations" with the coaching staff that this is the program for you then you are good to go. But until November of senior year when you sign an NLI you are vulnerable. Just read the NCAA rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious how many of you actually saw an actual statement from PSU coach directly committing verbally to the YJ 2021-that would be a NO. Against NCAA regulations to verbally commit any player. Until an NLI is signed in senior year no player is "committed". All these young players do is take themselves out of the running at other schools by "verbally committing" at such a young age. This is a "gentleman's handshake" at best. Several things can happen between now and 2021: The coach can leave the program and the new coach can decommit all non-signed NLI "verbal commits" if they want. There is nothing in writing. Players can also de-commit until they sign an NLI so it is a virtual merry-go-round for 4 years. The bottom line is if you know where you want to go and you have had "conversations" with the coaching staff that this is the program for you then you are good to go. But until November of senior year when you sign an NLI you are vulnerable. Just read the NCAA rules.

I believe Brian Williams was there during the PSU/YJ meeting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious how many of you actually saw an actual statement from PSU coach directly committing verbally to the YJ 2021-that would be a NO. Against NCAA regulations to verbally commit any player. Until an NLI is signed in senior year no player is "committed". All these young players do is take themselves out of the running at other schools by "verbally committing" at such a young age. This is a "gentleman's handshake" at best. Several things can happen between now and 2021: The coach can leave the program and the new coach can decommit all non-signed NLI "verbal commits" if they want. There is nothing in writing. Players can also de-commit until they sign an NLI so it is a virtual merry-go-round for 4 years. The bottom line is if you know where you want to go and you have had "conversations" with the coaching staff that this is the program for you then you are good to go. But until November of senior year when you sign an NLI you are vulnerable. Just read the NCAA rules.

Says the jealous dad, don't worry there are plenty of spots left and your post is pure drivel

This made me laugh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious how many of you actually saw an actual statement from PSU coach directly committing verbally to the YJ 2021-that would be a NO. Against NCAA regulations to verbally commit any player. Until an NLI is signed in senior year no player is "committed". All these young players do is take themselves out of the running at other schools by "verbally committing" at such a young age. This is a "gentleman's handshake" at best. Several things can happen between now and 2021: The coach can leave the program and the new coach can decommit all non-signed NLI "verbal commits" if they want. There is nothing in writing. Players can also de-commit until they sign an NLI so it is a virtual merry-go-round for 4 years. The bottom line is if you know where you want to go and you have had "conversations" with the coaching staff that this is the program for you then you are good to go. But until November of senior year when you sign an NLI you are vulnerable. Just read the NCAA rules.

You really are pathetic. Give us the example of the women's NCAA coaches or programs who are not honoring their verbal commitments. All you are doing by waiting until signing the NLI is making sure your kid gets no money or worse yet waiting until your kids school of her dreams has no spots left.

Hu

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious how many of you actually saw an actual statement from PSU coach directly committing verbally to the YJ 2021-that would be a NO. Against NCAA regulations to verbally commit any player. Until an NLI is signed in senior year no player is "committed". All these young players do is take themselves out of the running at other schools by "verbally committing" at such a young age. This is a "gentleman's handshake" at best. Several things can happen between now and 2021: The coach can leave the program and the new coach can decommit all non-signed NLI "verbal commits" if they want. There is nothing in writing. Players can also de-commit until they sign an NLI so it is a virtual merry-go-round for 4 years. The bottom line is if you know where you want to go and you have had Uhonversations" with the coaching staff that this is the program for you then you are good to go. But until November of senior year when you sign an NLI you are vulnerable. Just read the NCAA rules.

You really are pathetic. Give us the example of the women's NCAA coaches or programs who are not honoring their verbal commitments. All you are doing by waiting until signing the NLI is making sure your kid gets no money or worse yet waiting until your kids school of her dreams has no spots left.

Absolutely correct the first time a head coach did not honor their verbal no one would accept their word again. Now if there is a coaching change verbals do not have to be honored. This situation does happen and has to be considered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hu

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious how many of you actually saw an actual statement from PSU coach directly committing verbally to the YJ 2021-that would be a NO. Against NCAA regulations to verbally commit any player. Until an NLI is signed in senior year no player is "committed". All these young players do is take themselves out of the running at other schools by "verbally committing" at such a young age. This is a "gentleman's handshake" at best. Several things can happen between now and 2021: The coach can leave the program and the new coach can decommit all non-signed NLI "verbal commits" if they want. There is nothing in writing. Players can also de-commit until they sign an NLI so it is a virtual merry-go-round for 4 years. The bottom line is if you know where you want to go and you have had Uhonversations" with the coaching staff that this is the program for you then you are good to go. But until November of senior year when you sign an NLI you are vulnerable. Just read the NCAA rules.

You really are pathetic. Give us the example of the women's NCAA coaches or programs who are not honoring their verbal commitments. All you are doing by waiting until signing the NLI is making sure your kid gets no money or worse yet waiting until your kids school of her dreams has no spots left.

Absolutely correct the first time a head coach did not honor their verbal no one would accept their word again. Now if there is a coaching change verbals do not have to be honored. This situation does happen and has to be considered.

Again tell us the program where this has happened in women's lacrosse .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hu

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious how many of you actually saw an actual statement from PSU coach directly committing verbally to the YJ 2021-that would be a NO. Against NCAA regulations to verbally commit any player. Until an NLI is signed in senior year no player is "committed". All these young players do is take themselves out of the running at other schools by "verbally committing" at such a young age. This is a "gentleman's handshake" at best. Several things can happen between now and 2021: The coach can leave the program and the new coach can decommit all non-signed NLI "verbal commits" if they want. There is nothing in writing. Players can also de-commit until they sign an NLI so it is a virtual merry-go-round for 4 years. The bottom line is if you know where you want to go and you have had Uhonversations" with the coaching staff that this is the program for you then you are good to go. But until November of senior year when you sign an NLI you are vulnerable. Just read the NCAA rules.

You really are pathetic. Give us the example of the women's NCAA coaches or programs who are not honoring their verbal commitments. All you are doing by waiting until signing the NLI is making sure your kid gets no money or worse yet waiting until your kids school of her dreams has no spots left.

Absolutely correct the first time a head coach did not honor their verbal no one would accept their word again. Now if there is a coaching change verbals do not have to be honored. This situation does happen and has to be considered.

Again tell us the program where this has happened in women's lacrosse .

In the past year or two - new women's coach at Yale and new men's coach at Brown. I don't think it's widespread or frequent but it does happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hu

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious how many of you actually saw an actual statement from PSU coach directly committing verbally to the YJ 2021-that would be a NO. Against NCAA regulations to verbally commit any player. Until an NLI is signed in senior year no player is "committed". All these young players do is take themselves out of the running at other schools by "verbally committing" at such a young age. This is a "gentleman's handshake" at best. Several things can happen between now and 2021: The coach can leave the program and the new coach can decommit all non-signed NLI "verbal commits" if they want. There is nothing in writing. Players can also de-commit until they sign an NLI so it is a virtual merry-go-round for 4 years. The bottom line is if you know where you want to go and you have had Uhonversations" with the coaching staff that this is the program for you then you are good to go. But until November of senior year when you sign an NLI you are vulnerable. Just read the NCAA rules.

You really are pathetic. Give us the example of the women's NCAA coaches or programs who are not honoring their verbal commitments. All you are doing by waiting until signing the NLI is making sure your kid gets no money or worse yet waiting until your kids school of her dreams has no spots left.

Absolutely correct the first time a head coach did not honor their verbal no one would accept their word again. Now if there is a coaching change verbals do not have to be honored. This situation does happen and has to be considered.

Again tell us the program where this has happened in women's lacrosse .

In the past year or two - new women's coach at Yale and new men's coach at Brown. I don't think it's widespread or frequent but it does happen.

I believe is has been stated that verbals are not neccessarily honored by new coaches.

New Va tech coach decommited all previous commits. In the last year or so. Look it up. Did not honor. Know one personally so it does happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Va tech coach decommited all previous commits. In the last year or so. Look it up. Did not honor. Know one personally so it does happen.

Not all previous VT commits were decommitted, but agree that some were...

[Again tell us the program where this has happened in women's lacrosse . [/quote]

in 2014 George Mason decommitted Girls after a coaching change.. the Athletic Director made the announcement to avoid besmirching the new coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Va tech coach decommited all previous commits. In the last year or so. Look it up. Did not honor. Know one personally so it does happen.

Not all previous VT commits were decommitted, but agree that some were...

Everyone on here has already acknowledged that new coaches sometimes de-commit players. In the Va Tech case, the previous coach had check out a couple of years ago so not surprising it occurred to a few players.

Laugh all you want it is absolutely true

Wow sorry for being the kill joy...this was an informational post not something to take a stab at any child's dreams. Thought this forum was to help parents and kids through this process. As I have already been through this process once, I know what I am looking at for my next go around. Will make sure to keep any facts or accurate information out of this forum for sake of ridicule. Happy recruiting!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow sorry for being the kill joy...this was an informational post not something to take a stab at any child's dreams. Thought this forum was to help parents and kids through this process. As I have already been through this process once, I know what I am looking at for my next go around. Will make sure to keep any facts or accurate information out of this forum for sake of ridicule. Happy recruiting!

Too funny - how long did it take you to figure out that trying to get parents to deviate from their preconceived beliefs, understandings, or whatever it is - is not a winnable fight. It still does not matter if your oldest is a freshman in college and your middle is a senior headed to Stanford - you have no clue about the recruiting 'game'. I have learned to just keep my mouth shut when talking to these 'younger' first time parents who have 'lived' and 'gone through' the experience through social media or PTA meetings rumors.
Go and enjoy your life and your kids.

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Hilarious. How the [lacrosse] does Yale have any clue the girl can qualify for admission?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Hilarious. How the [lacrosse] does Yale have any clue the girl can qualify for admission?

They probably use the same set of criteria that would rule you out of being able to go there. Jealously is an ugly thing, why don't you keep it to yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Hilarious. How the [lacrosse] does Yale have any clue the girl can qualify for admission?

They probably use the same set of criteria that would rule you out of being able to go there. Jealously is an ugly thing, why don't you keep it to yourself.

Even worse for the haters, Yale is not upset by the tweet, they made the offer, the young lady can play, more than smart enough to qualify and would have without lax in my estimation and parents can afford it. Most importantly she is an awesome kid!!! Hate on, not going to bring down the joy and pride many of us have for her accomplishment.

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How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Hilarious. How the [lacrosse] does Yale have any clue the girl can qualify for admission?

They probably use the same set of criteria that would rule you out of being able to go there. Jealously is an ugly thing, why don't you keep it to yourself.

I'm not jealous at all. I went to an Ivy League school. And I'm not hating on the child. Good for her. It just shocks me as outspoken as the Ivy's have been against early recruiting that Yale would do this. And while she may be an intelligent kid, there is no way that Yale has any idea whether she can score the 1350 or 1400 on the SAT that is needed for admission as an athlete. Even intelligent kids can struggle to achieve these scores. Yale doesn't take super scores, so getting a straight 1350 on one SAT is not easy. Good luck to her. I just think it's a sad state of affairs when Ivy League schools are offering 8th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Hilarious. How the [lacrosse] does Yale have any clue the girl can qualify for admission?

They probably use the same set of criteria that would rule you out of being able to go there. Jealously is an ugly thing, why don't you keep it to yourself.

I'm not jealous at all. I went to an Ivy League school. And I'm not hating on the child. Good for her. It just shocks me as outspoken as the Ivy's have been against early recruiting that Yale would do this. And while she may be an intelligent kid, there is no way that Yale has any idea whether she can score the 1350 or 1400 on the SAT that is needed for admission as an athlete. Even intelligent kids can struggle to achieve these scores. Yale doesn't take super scores, so getting a straight 1350 on one SAT is not easy. Good luck to her. I just think it's a sad state of affairs when Ivy League schools are offering 8th graders.

This could be said of ANY school making an offer, all the students grades and scores will have to play out ( IVY or not). Should all the IVY schools wait until the kids hit 1400 until they start to recruit? Recruiting for the top players will be done for this class by next fall. Long before kids have the scores for SATs . In the process now the coaches need to guess where these kids will be as lacrosse players as they enter college, they will also need to guess where these kids will be as students as they enter college. Your imposed recruiting ideals would kill any IVY program , stick to your day job.

That's just silly. To get into MD, UNC, UVA, etc as a lacrosse player you only need to score over 1000 on your SAT. Those schools can safely assume that due to the demographics of lacrosse playing youth, 99% of the kids will be able to meet that requirement. It's a whole different ballgame when you are required to get a 1350 or 1400. The Ivies have self-imposed rules against this and offer no athletic money regardless. So what exactly is she committed to? She's committed to the admission process at Yale University. A process which won't begin for her for another 3 years.

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That's just silly. To get into MD, UNC, UVA, etc as a lacrosse player you only need to score over 1000 on your SAT. Those schools can safely assume that due to the demographics of lacrosse playing youth, 99% of the kids will be able to meet that requirement. It's a whole different ballgame when you are required to get a 1350 or 1400. The Ivies have self-imposed rules against this and offer no athletic money regardless. So what exactly is she committed to? She's committed to the admission process at Yale University. A process which won't begin for her for another 3 years.

What a loser you are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Hilarious. How the [lacrosse] does Yale have any clue the girl can qualify for admission?

Yale forbids their recruits from posting on social media until at least the end of10th grade. I know several in this situation. When the coach gets wind of this, the offer will likely be rescinded.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's just silly. To get into MD, UNC, UVA, etc as a lacrosse player you only need to score over 1000 on your SAT. Those schools can safely assume that due to the demographics of lacrosse playing youth, 99% of the kids will be able to meet that requirement. It's a whole different ballgame when you are required to get a 1350 or 1400. The Ivies have self-imposed rules against this and offer no athletic money regardless. So what exactly is she committed to? She's committed to the admission process at Yale University. A process which won't begin for her for another 3 years.

What is different about this year is the potential change in recruiting rules that gets voted on in April with a yet to be determined implementation date. With that uncertainty, coaches are going to try and get their 2021s now. If implementation date is Sept 2021, then this summer will be a feeding frenzy. Some have started now to get the jump.

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How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up

21s not heating up yet outside a few at YJs. Please give them a little time, they are in 8th grade for God's sake. Congrats to those who have committed, sound like great kids. But a lot of others not ready yet and don't need the pressure at 14 about things "heating up" already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up

21s not heating up yet outside a few at YJs. Please give them a little time, they are in 8th grade for God's sake. Congrats to those who have committed, sound like great kids. But a lot of others not ready yet and don't need the pressure at 14 about things "heating up" already.

Agreed, slow your roll with heating up. 3 girls have committed (Navy, Maryland and now Yale), that's great for them and their families. Let the others just play some lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up

21s not heating up yet outside a few at YJs. Please give them a little time, they are in 8th grade for God's sake. Congrats to those who have committed, sound like great kids. But a lot of others not ready yet and don't need the pressure at 14 about things "heating up" already.

Agreed, slow your roll with heating up. 3 girls have committed (Navy, Maryland and now Yale), that's great for them and their families. Let the others just play some lacrosse.

Its actually 4 commits from the team and several others have offers but are riding out to see all options. But agree, plenty of time for this age group. This summer/fall will be the height of it, especially since many/most programs are still on 2020 and even not finished with 2019s, and not even considering 21's. The programs these girls committed to have decided to leap out and start with 21's, and the girls were obviously happy to accept, congrats to all. Not sure what your definition of heating up would be, but a fair amount of girls on this team are seeing it.

M&D black has now committed a 2021 to Md as well. Can we say heating up yet?

Oh yeah heating up alright. 5 or so girls verbally committed out of 112 D1 programs?(Not counting the new programs that haven't started yet) Just stop it with the crazy talk.

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M&D black has now committed a 2021 to Md as well. Can we say heating up yet?

I guess I will now have to agree with you. Congrats to the kid not a comment on them individually at all, but the whole thing is entirely ridiculous and has gotten completely out of hand committing kids half way through their 8th grade years. This is going to lead to many more de-commitments and poaching from coaches. Let a hope sanity prevails and the NCAA proposal gets passed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up

21s not heating up yet outside a few at YJs. Please give them a little time, they are in 8th grade for God's sake. Congrats to those who have committed, sound like great kids. But a lot of others not ready yet and don't need the pressure at 14 about things "heating up" already.

Agreed, slow your roll with heating up. 3 girls have committed (Navy, Maryland and now Yale), that's great for them and their families. Let the others just play some lacrosse.

Its actually 4 commits from the team and several others have offers but are riding out to see all options. But agree, plenty of time for this age group. This summer/fall will be the height of it, especially since many/most programs are still on 2020 and even not finished with 2019s, and not even considering 21's. The programs these girls committed to have decided to leap out and start with 21's, and the girls were obviously happy to accept, congrats to all. Not sure what your definition of heating up would be, but a fair amount of girls on this team are seeing it.

4 commits awesome, been to a bunch of tournaments last few years, has this team won anything? Have they ever beaten any top md teams? We know they have won the social media title so far though.

I guess all that shows is winning these stupid tournaments really doesn't matter. What does matter is being on the right team and getting the right exposure.

A Yale committ, please say they said you need to achieve at least a 31 on ACT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone "commit" to Yale in 8th grade? Can't imagine Yale coach is thrilled that was on twitter

Great kid, great family, congrats to them! 21's heating up.

Hilarious. How the [lacrosse] does Yale have any clue the girl can qualify for admission?

Yale forbids their recruits from posting on social media until at least the end of10th grade. I know several in this situation. When the coach gets wind of this, the offer will likely be rescinded.

WRONG!! They won't rescind the offer. Smh. The kid is as great a student as she is an athlete. These comments are sad, just sad.
Great family. Great kid. Well deserved offer, and yes, in 8th grade.

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A Yale committ, please say they said you need to achieve at least a 31 on ACT.

Based on my daughter' experience, Ivy test requirements vary based on how high you are on their list/needs since all Ivy's are subject to the Academic Index (AI) and they need the total scores of the entire recruiting class to hit certain thresholds. For the AI at Ivy's test scores count 2/3 for AI and grades 1/3 so if your kid is a good player and a good test taken, they are valuable to the school. Stanford said minimum 30 ACT and wanted a significant amount of honors/APs, Duke said minimum 28 and Notre Dame minimum 27. This was at least what my daughter was told, hope this helps people.

Wrong I see a Yale 2020 posted on STEPS website ... that's ninth grade

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Wrong I see a Yale 2020 posted on STEPS website ... that's ninth grade

The post above this with the test scores is what you need to hit to ultimately get in not at the time you commit. That is what I meant, minimum bar that was communicated to my daughter in order to get admitted. Just cause you verbal, you still need to get in and hit the scores, GPA, etc

Hoping someone can give me some honest answers. My oldest (so this is my first time through this) is a 2021. She is a defender on her club team and loves it. She's 5'8" and uses her size and speed well against the other top club teams over the summer. However, on her MS team last year they used her as a middie because she is one of a large handful that has skills and understands the game. Typical of other MS, we had club girls and new lax players on the field at the same time. She likes middie but her heart is on D. She has very good grades so she'll get into the college of her choice.

My question to those that have been there before is.....are the defenders recruited to college programs typically defenders on their club teams or are they converted middies moved back to D? Mind you, I'm realistic, she's not going to a top 10 lax program, or top 20 for that matter. She probably slots in mid D1 to upper D2 program because of her length and speed. D is all about hard work and effort, with very little glory, but that's what she likes about it. She's not the kind of kid that needs to score to realize she contributes. She loves the challenge of shutting down the other teams stud. Just wondering if that mindset will stunt her chances of playing in college because she's on D. Thanks for all opinions!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping someone can give me some honest answers. My oldest (so this is my first time through this) is a 2021. She is a defender on her club team and loves it. She's 5'8" and uses her size and speed well against the other top club teams over the summer. However, on her MS team last year they used her as a middie because she is one of a large handful that has skills and understands the game. Typical of other MS, we had club girls and new lax players on the field at the same time. She likes middie but her heart is on D. She has very good grades so she'll get into the college of her choice.

My question to those that have been there before is.....are the defenders recruited to college programs typically defenders on their club teams or are they converted middies moved back to D? Mind you, I'm realistic, she's not going to a top 10 lax program, or top 20 for that matter. She probably slots in mid D1 to upper D2 program because of her length and speed. D is all about hard work and effort, with very little glory, but that's what she likes about it. She's not the kind of kid that needs to score to realize she contributes. She loves the challenge of shutting down the other teams stud. Just wondering if that mindset will stunt her chances of playing in college because she's on D. Thanks for all opinions!

Not from personal experience, but I would think a middie who can be converted to D would be seen as more versatile and a bigger asset to the college team. As you said, defenders don't get the glory and not sure how many coaches focus on that side of the ball when recruiting. That said, I know of a senior defender going D2 next year who still has no offhand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping someone can give me some honest answers. My oldest (so this is my first time through this) is a 2021. She is a defender on her club team and loves it. She's 5'8" and uses her size and speed well against the other top club teams over the summer. However, on her MS team last year they used her as a middie because she is one of a large handful that has skills and understands the game. Typical of other MS, we had club girls and new lax players on the field at the same time. She likes middie but her heart is on D. She has very good grades so she'll get into the college of her choice.

My question to those that have been there before is.....are the defenders recruited to college programs typically defenders on their club teams or are they converted middies moved back to D? Mind you, I'm realistic, she's not going to a top 10 lax program, or top 20 for that matter. She probably slots in mid D1 to upper D2 program because of her length and speed. D is all about hard work and effort, with very little glory, but that's what she likes about it. She's not the kind of kid that needs to score to realize she contributes. She loves the challenge of shutting down the other teams stud. Just wondering if that mindset will stunt her chances of playing in college because she's on D. Thanks for all opinions!

If your kid isn't a top 5 lax program kid, i don't know who is...size,speed,stick,iq and grades...Your shooting to low...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping someone can give me some honest answers. My oldest (so this is my first time through this) is a 2021. She is a defender on her club team and loves it. She's 5'8" and uses her size and speed well against the other top club teams over the summer. However, on her MS team last year they used her as a middie because she is one of a large handful that has skills and understands the game. Typical of other MS, we had club girls and new lax players on the field at the same time. She likes middie but her heart is on D. She has very good grades so she'll get into the college of her choice.

My question to those that have been there before is.....are the defenders recruited to college programs typically defenders on their club teams or are they converted middies moved back to D? Mind you, I'm realistic, she's not going to a top 10 lax program, or top 20 for that matter. She probably slots in mid D1 to upper D2 program because of her length and speed. D is all about hard work and effort, with very little glory, but that's what she likes about it. She's not the kind of kid that needs to score to realize she contributes. She loves the challenge of shutting down the other teams stud. Just wondering if that mindset will stunt her chances of playing in college because she's on D. Thanks for all opinions!

Not from personal experience, but I would think a middie who can be converted to D would be seen as more versatile and a bigger asset to the college team. As you said, defenders don't get the glory and not sure how many coaches focus on that side of the ball when recruiting. That said, I know of a senior defender going D2 next year who still has no offhand.

Hopefully the teams your talking about can outscore everyone and not need a stop late in the game. Not sure how many coaches focus on that side of the ball when recruiting? That said, thats the only defender you know? Hopefully the original poster won't listen to you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping someone can give me some honest answers. My oldest (so this is my first time through this) is a 2021. She is a defender on her club team and loves it. She's 5'8" and uses her size and speed well against the other top club teams over the summer. However, on her MS team last year they used her as a middie because she is one of a large handful that has skills and understands the game. Typical of other MS, we had club girls and new lax players on the field at the same time. She likes middie but her heart is on D. She has very good grades so she'll get into the college of her choice.

My question to those that have been there before is.....are the defenders recruited to college programs typically defenders on their club teams or are they converted middies moved back to D? Mind you, I'm realistic, she's not going to a top 10 lax program, or top 20 for that matter. She probably slots in mid D1 to upper D2 program because of her length and speed. D is all about hard work and effort, with very little glory, but that's what she likes about it. She's not the kind of kid that needs to score to realize she contributes. She loves the challenge of shutting down the other teams stud. Just wondering if that mindset will stunt her chances of playing in college because she's on D. Thanks for all opinions!

have her play both if possible. The more things she can do on the well on the field the more recruitable she is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping someone can give me some honest answers. My oldest (so this is my first time through this) is a 2021. She is a defender on her club team and loves it. She's 5'8" and uses her size and speed well against the other top club teams over the summer. However, on her MS team last year they used her as a middie because she is one of a large handful that has skills and understands the game. Typical of other MS, we had club girls and new lax players on the field at the same time. She likes middie but her heart is on D. She has very good grades so she'll get into the college of her choice.

My question to those that have been there before is.....are the defenders recruited to college programs typically defenders on their club teams or are they converted middies moved back to D? Mind you, I'm realistic, she's not going to a top 10 lax program, or top 20 for that matter. She probably slots in mid D1 to upper D2 program because of her length and speed. D is all about hard work and effort, with very little glory, but that's what she likes about it. She's not the kind of kid that needs to score to realize she contributes. She loves the challenge of shutting down the other teams stud. Just wondering if that mindset will stunt her chances of playing in college because she's on D. Thanks for all opinions!

have her play both if possible. The more things she can do on the well on the field the more recruitable she is.

What club does she play for? what do they think?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping someone can give me some honest answers. My oldest (so this is my first time through this) is a 2021. She is a defender on her club team and loves it. She's 5'8" and uses her size and speed well against the other top club teams over the summer. However, on her MS team last year they used her as a middie because she is one of a large handful that has skills and understands the game. Typical of other MS, we had club girls and new lax players on the field at the same time. She likes middie but her heart is on D. She has very good grades so she'll get into the college of her choice.

My question to those that have been there before is.....are the defenders recruited to college programs typically defenders on their club teams or are they converted middies moved back to D? Mind you, I'm realistic, she's not going to a top 10 lax program, or top 20 for that matter. She probably slots in mid D1 to upper D2 program because of her length and speed. D is all about hard work and effort, with very little glory, but that's what she likes about it. She's not the kind of kid that needs to score to realize she contributes. She loves the challenge of shutting down the other teams stud. Just wondering if that mindset will stunt her chances of playing in college because she's on D. Thanks for all opinions!

have her play both if possible. The more things she can do on the well on the field the more recruitable she is.

What club does she play for? what do they think?

Her club coach loves her on D, she doesn't sniff middie on the club team.

She will get recruited as a defender, especially if she is shutting down studs and taking charges. Defenders may not always be the first to catch the eye of recruiters, but they definitely are sought out to fill those D spots. I do agree with the prior poster. If she can play another position in addition, she is well rounded therefore more marketable.
Best of luck to your daughter!

To the 2021 defender parent original poster - I could have written your post. We are hoping HS team will be the answer. Mine is "too valuable" on the crease per club but we have many coaching changes ahead in the coming years, as you will also. Best of luck to your daughter !

I'm the original poster. Thanks everyone, this was helpful! Good luck to all the girls this season.

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

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There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

Height as the only factor is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

Height as the only factor is irrelevant.

finally someone with a brain!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoping someone can give me some honest answers. My oldest (so this is my first time through this) is a 2021. She is a defender on her club team and loves it. She's 5'8" and uses her size and speed well against the other top club teams over the summer. However, on her MS team last year they used her as a middie because she is one of a large handful that has skills and understands the game. Typical of other MS, we had club girls and new lax players on the field at the same time. She likes middie but her heart is on D. She has very good grades so she'll get into the college of her choice.

My question to those that have been there before is.....are the defenders recruited to college programs typically defenders on their club teams or are they converted middies moved back to D? Mind you, I'm realistic, she's not going to a top 10 lax program, or top 20 for that matter. She probably slots in mid D1 to upper D2 program because of her length and speed. D is all about hard work and effort, with very little glory, but that's what she likes about it. She's not the kind of kid that needs to score to realize she contributes. She loves the challenge of shutting down the other teams stud. Just wondering if that mindset will stunt her chances of playing in college because she's on D. Thanks for all opinions!

What club does she play for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

I would think that if they were any good CR would have scooped them up by now? Can't be too hard to find the 5'10" 8th graders?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

Height as the only factor is irrelevant.

Nobody said height was the only factor, but it is definitely a big factor. Especially for a defender that can also move.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

Height as the only factor is irrelevant.

Nobody said height was the only factor, but it is definitely a big factor. Especially for a defender that can also move.

Actually, height was the only factor mentioned, no reference to any
other technical or physical skill/ability. This has been a fairly constant refrain from someone in this thread throughout the years, wants their tall daughter on YJ top team and has made height the issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

Height as the only factor is irrelevant.

Nobody said height was the only factor, but it is definitely a big factor. Especially for a defender that can also move.

I would rather put that person on the circle. Tall defenders are sometimes like giant windmills and the quick players blow right around them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

Height as the only factor is irrelevant.

Nobody said height was the only factor, but it is definitely a big factor. Especially for a defender that can also move.

Actually, height was the only factor mentioned, no reference to any
other technical or physical skill/ability. This has been a fairly constant refrain from someone in this thread throughout the years, wants their tall daughter on YJ top team and has made height the issue.

Most tall girls can't play very well. It is a trait more common with slow and awkward. Look at all the dominating players through the years in NCAA. Height has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are not that many 5'8" 2021 kids, easy to figure out. Sounds like she has a lot of talent. If she wants to be recruted, go to yjs.

Several programs have defenders that are 5'8" or so. Leg a sea and TG both have defenders that are around this height. I think leg has 3-4 that are 5'8" or taller. YJ doesn't have any defenders that size. There are more that you think that are around 5'8" in this age group now (at all positions), maybe not last summer, but now I would say that there are at a bunch of them now. There are a few that are close to 5'10" on LI.

Height as the only factor is irrelevant.

Nobody said height was the only factor, but it is definitely a big factor. Especially for a defender that can also move.

Actually, height was the only factor mentioned, no reference to any
other technical or physical skill/ability. This has been a fairly constant refrain from someone in this thread throughout the years, wants their tall daughter on YJ top team and has made height the issue.

Most tall girls can't play very well. It is a trait more common with slow and awkward. Look at all the dominating players through the years in NCAA. Height has nothing to do with it.

Hahaha, nice try....child.

So where are the 5'8"-5'10" 8th grade phenoms playing?

My kid is 5'11" and going to a top 5 program. she's a skilled attacker with a wicked underhand shot and good field iq. So I guess your theory is out!

So I'm guessing your short and ate your way into an attack position

HEART. First and foremost.
SPEED. Kills.
VISION. Makes every player around them better.
IQ. Can make up for other deficiencies.
HEIGHT. Will make a player taller than other players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEART. First and foremost.
SPEED. Kills.
VISION. Makes every player around them better.
IQ. Can make up for other deficiencies.
HEIGHT. Will make a player taller than other players.

Right on, although I flip #1 with #2.. the fastest players get to play on the top college teams.. if you have everything but speed you dont

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 5'11" and going to a top 5 program. she's a skilled attacker with a wicked underhand shot and good field iq. So I guess your theory is out!

From an anonymous poster, that really means something.

Here is how crazy parents are getting...I was at a 8th grade LISGYLL game today and a parent from one of the teams had a scorebook in the crowd and he was taking stats for the game and broadcasting it to everyone in the stands. If your are going to take stats do everyone in the stands a favor and just take them for your own daughter and save everyone around you from having to hear the play by play. We are watching the game and can see it happening live. Why would you be recording stats for a 8th grade game that nobody cares about other than the people at the game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is how crazy parents are getting...I was at a 8th grade LISGYLL game today and a parent from one of the teams had a scorebook in the crowd and he was taking stats for the game and broadcasting it to everyone in the stands. If your are going to take stats do everyone in the stands a favor and just take them for your own daughter and save everyone around you from having to hear the play by play. We are watching the game and can see it happening live. Why would you be recording stats for a 8th grade game that nobody cares about other than the people at the game?

Isn't LISGYLL just glorified PAL? Who cares, all the good 8th graders are playing varsity anyway.

This is true if you come from a town with a crappy talent pool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is how crazy parents are getting...I was at a 8th grade LISGYLL game today and a parent from one of the teams had a scorebook in the crowd and he was taking stats for the game and broadcasting it to everyone in the stands. If your are going to take stats do everyone in the stands a favor and just take them for your own daughter and save everyone around you from having to hear the play by play. We are watching the game and can see it happening live. Why would you be recording stats for a 8th grade game that nobody cares about other than the people at the game?

Isn't LISGYLL just glorified PAL? Who cares, all the good 8th graders are playing varsity anyway.

No 8th graders playing varsity in Garden City, Manhasset, West Islip and any good program for that matter. All the crappy programs are playing 8th graders and if you have 3-4 9th graders starting on your team you're probably in a crappy program as well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is how crazy parents are getting...I was at a 8th grade LISGYLL game today and a parent from one of the teams had a scorebook in the crowd and he was taking stats for the game and broadcasting it to everyone in the stands. If your are going to take stats do everyone in the stands a favor and just take them for your own daughter and save everyone around you from having to hear the play by play. We are watching the game and can see it happening live. Why would you be recording stats for a 8th grade game that nobody cares about other than the people at the game?

Isn't LISGYLL just glorified PAL? Who cares, all the good 8th graders are playing varsity anyway.

No 8th graders playing varsity in Garden City, Manhasset, West Islip and any good program for that matter. All the crappy programs are playing 8th graders and if you have 3-4 9th graders starting on your team you're probably in a crappy program as well

It's not about the kids. Its about the behavior of the parents, some guys ruin the sidelines for everyone

What will kids with offers do. Will they accept or wait

WI 2021 has full squad, no one pulled up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI 2021 has full squad, no one pulled up?

Pulled up to what?

Too many parents thing there kid is better then others
WI is top program and they don't need 2021 kids on varsity due to the fact there 2020 kids are solid, I'm a TG parent and WI parents are nuts they are living thru their daughters

Just crazy WI Jv was solid they killed me

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too many parents thing there kid is better then others
WI is top program and they don't need 2021 kids on varsity due to the fact there 2020 kids are solid, I'm a TG parent and WI parents are nuts they are living thru their daughters

This post is the most accurate post that has ever been on this site. Plus is literally laughed out loud when I read it. And saying the WI parents are nuts, is very kind of you. They are certifiably insane!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too many parents thing there kid is better then others
WI is top program and they don't need 2021 kids on varsity due to the fact there 2020 kids are solid, I'm a TG parent and WI parents are nuts they are living thru their daughters

This post is the most accurate post that has ever been on this site. Plus is literally laughed out loud when I read it. And saying the WI parents are nuts, is very kind of you. They are certifiably insane!

Just two of them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What will kids with offers do. Will they accept or wait

Uh, they can't accept until first day of junior year know, no? You been under a rock?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too many parents thing there kid is better then others
WI is top program and they don't need 2021 kids on varsity due to the fact there 2020 kids are solid, I'm a TG parent and WI parents are nuts they are living thru their daughters

This post is the most accurate post that has ever been on this site. Plus is literally laughed out loud when I read it. And saying the WI parents are nuts, is very kind of you. They are certifiably insane!

Just two of them

there are two wi dads that believe their kids should've been on varsity this year lol. Relax your kid will get her chance. Prob 10th grade as the 2020 has a solid class and some 19 will move

I was wondering if there were any 8th graders on varsity because the 8th grade LISGYLL team is awful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too many parents thing there kid is better then others
WI is top program and they don't need 2021 kids on varsity due to the fact there 2020 kids are solid, I'm a TG parent and WI parents are nuts they are living thru their daughters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too many parents thing there kid is better then others
WI is top program and they don't need 2021 kids on varsity due to the fact there 2020 kids are solid, I'm a TG parent and WI parents are nuts they are living thru their daughters

This post is the most accurate post that has ever been on this site. Plus is literally laughed out loud when I read it. And saying the WI parents are nuts, is very kind of you. They are certifiably insane!

Just two of them

there are two wi dads that believe their kids should've been on varsity this year lol. Relax your kid will get her chance. Prob 10th grade as the 2020 has a solid class and some 19 will move

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Too many parents thing there kid is better then others
WI is top program and they don't need 2021 kids on varsity due to the fact there 2020 kids are solid, I'm a TG parent and WI parents are nuts they are living thru their daughters

So right there is your problem, parents think kids are so talented because they play for 2021 TG, which is not a good barometer of where the kids stand in the grand scheme of LI lax, not hard to stand out with lack of talent. False sense of entitlement.

"Your judgements about other people [and their teenage daughters] say more about you than they do about the people your judging."

~Mhar

Yeah nuts I was at a game and one of the dads from Wi was telling everyone she committed to Spallina

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was wondering if there were any 8th graders on varsity because the 8th grade LISGYLL team is awful.

The 8 grade teams main problem is that they do not play as a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was wondering if there were any 8th graders on varsity because the 8th grade LISGYLL team is awful.

The 8 grade teams main problem is that they do not play as a team.

Sorry but going 1-5 (one win could have been a forfeit)in the crappy league is not attributed to just not playing as a team. They had no talent and the only thing worse was the loadmouth dads yelling at their kids and telling their wives to shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah nuts I was at a game and one of the dads from Wi was telling everyone she committed to Spallina

If it were even true, that is something they should keep to themselves. They could get Spallina into a lot of trouble and ruin a rising program. Not smart.

8th graders shouldn't be committing to college at all. They're 13! That is strictly for chest pounding Dad's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah nuts I was at a game and one of the dads from Wi was telling everyone she committed to Spallina

If it were even true, that is something they should keep to themselves. They could get Spallina into a lot of trouble and ruin a rising program. Not smart.

Depends when offers were made, and if they accepted before the rule change. Some families including 2020's and 2021's have sat on offers from before the rule change (from other schools, no knowledge of Stony Brook's practices on who and what ages received offers already). Even if an offer was made and accepted, who is to say it will be honored anyway, and who is to say that a kid can't attend a school and go out for a team without a scholarship. I bet many of the kids at Stony Brook, Albany and other state schools receive very little Athletic Aide because coaches know that the schools are already way cheaper than anywhere else the kid can go and play. Coaches know the rules and wont risk them for 8th graders or any graders for that matter, no matter how good they are or aren't. Not a whole lot of scholarship money at stake for the SUNY schools anyway so who cares.

When people don't know what's going on in your life
They SPECULATE..
When they think they know
They FABRICATE..
And when they do know
They just HATE

Real question is...have you ever met a HATER doing better than you?
ME NEITHER.

Well, these post I'm reading are bizarre. I have been around HS sports for 30 years and it seems like parents are losing track that their kids want to play and have fun. You have to realize 10-20% of your child grade goes on to play college sports. You parents are in competition with each other and thats the gas on the fire for your programs. I know many of HS coaches Smith East, West, MC, Sachems, WI, NP, Lindenhurst, Babylon and may more all good people with great intentions. For you dads find a hobby!!!!!

2 DADS that are nuts and are drinking gallons of cool aid

SOME DADS' HOBBIES ARE THEIR KIDS!!!
Imagine a dad being able to help guide his child through many of the valuable life lessons that today's adolescents are not learning at their schools by their educators and coaches.
Competitive Sports and academics are FUN and fantastic ways to teach kids about:
-setting goals, then working hard to achieve them.
-learning there are no shortcuts to success.
-Time + Energy + Willingness can lead to success.
-knowing where your strengths and weaknesses lie and understanding how to make your weaknesses your strengths.
-learning about good nutrition and diet and recognizing that a healthy body and mind are important
-learning to be a good leader (and follower)
-becoming a "coachable" player, "teachable" student, "respected" teammate
-learning to control your emotions while being able to push to your own personal limits
-understanding that success requires sacrifice
-learning that life isn't always fair
-understanding that no one is perfect (parent or child), so mistakes will undoubtedly be made and that is ok. Learn from them.
MOST OF ALL: recognizing that there will always be those in life who are not as determined to put in the same hard work that you are in order to achieve your personal goals and many of those same jealous people (and their children) will undoubtedly try to make-up for their lack of "whatever", by "ANONYMOUSLY" knocking you down and telling you that they know what's best for you. Really? It's sad actually...
I guess it's an easier way for them to feel better about themselves because they are just not courageous or motivated enough to do the hard work.

I suggest that you snowflakes give up on the "fake news" and go back to your safe spaces because...

"WOLVES DONT LOSE SLEEP OVER THE OPINIONS OF SHEEP"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SOME DADS' HOBBIES ARE THEIR KIDS!!!
Imagine a dad being able to help guide his child through many of the valuable life lessons that today's adolescents are not learning at their schools by their educators and coaches.
Competitive Sports and academics are FUN and fantastic ways to teach kids about:
-setting goals, then working hard to achieve them.
-learning there are no shortcuts to success.
-Time + Energy + Willingness can lead to success.
-knowing where your strengths and weaknesses lie and understanding how to make your weaknesses your strengths.
-learning about good nutrition and diet and recognizing that a healthy body and mind are important
-learning to be a good leader (and follower)
-becoming a "coachable" player, "teachable" student, "respected" teammate
-learning to control your emotions while being able to push to your own personal limits
-understanding that success requires sacrifice
-learning that life isn't always fair
-understanding that no one is perfect (parent or child), so mistakes will undoubtedly be made and that is ok. Learn from them.
MOST OF ALL: recognizing that there will always be those in life who are not as determined to put in the same hard work that you are in order to achieve your personal goals and many of those same jealous people (and their children) will undoubtedly try to make-up for their lack of "whatever", by "ANONYMOUSLY" knocking you down and telling you that they know what's best for you. Really? It's sad actually...
I guess it's an easier way for them to feel better about themselves because they are just not courageous or motivated enough to do the hard work.

I suggest that you snowflakes give up on the "fake news" and go back to your safe spaces because...

"WOLVES DONT LOSE SLEEP OVER THE OPINIONS OF SHEEP"

The first line says it all. Your kid should not be your hobby. Parent of the year.

Sorry you feel that way. It was nice of you however, to prove the previous poster's point for him/her.
Here is a nicely written article that I found with a simple google search. There are likely many more great reads but this one seems to hit the gist of it. Please check it out if you get a chance. Your kids will thank you.

http://www.encouragingdads.com/2016/02/daddies-daughters-making-your-kids-a-hobby/

All the way to MD to play in summer challeng with no competition. Was this really necessary? We won, what a waste of time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the way to MD to play in summer challeng with no competition. Was this really necessary? We won, what a waste of time.

Do you mean 'Summer Showcase'? Who did you end up playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the way to MD to play in summer challeng with no competition. Was this really necessary? We won, what a waste of time.

Who did you beat?

This must be a Team Elevate 2021 Blue parent. Well they Played two Prime Time teams tied one and won by one goal, no competition right. They also played a Phantastix 2021 White team won easily and PA Express 2021 Orange won easily. No top team was there, no middle tier teams were there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This must be a Team Elevate 2021 Blue parent. Well they Played two Prime Time teams tied one and won by one goal, no competition right. They also played a Phantastix 2021 White team won easily and PA Express 2021 Orange won easily. No top team was there, no middle tier teams were there.

Did they play any Maryland teams? All the way to Maryland and you did not get to play any Maryland teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This must be a Team Elevate 2021 Blue parent. Well they Played two Prime Time teams tied one and won by one goal, no competition right. They also played a Phantastix 2021 White team won easily and PA Express 2021 Orange won easily. No top team was there, no middle tier teams were there.

Did they play any Maryland teams? All the way to Maryland and you did not get to play any Maryland teams.

Elevate 2021 played the top MD teams and went undefeated! This is a very strong group from Long Island. Not sure there will be a whole lot of competition this summer. Hoping there will be more competition in MA this summer!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This must be a Team Elevate 2021 Blue parent. Well they Played two Prime Time teams tied one and won by one goal, no competition right. They also played a Phantastix 2021 White team won easily and PA Express 2021 Orange won easily. No top team was there, no middle tier teams were there.

Did they play any Maryland teams? All the way to Maryland and you did not get to play any Maryland teams.

Elevate 2021 played the top MD teams and went undefeated! This is a very strong group from Long Island. Not sure there will be a whole lot of competition this summer. Hoping there will be more competition in MA this summer!

Top MD teams! Wow! How did you do against M&D? Sky Walkers? Hero's? Is Capital/Stars as good as advertised? Please fill us in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This must be a Team Elevate 2021 Blue parent. Well they Played two Prime Time teams tied one and won by one goal, no competition right. They also played a Phantastix 2021 White team won easily and PA Express 2021 Orange won easily. No top team was there, no middle tier teams were there.

Did they play any Maryland teams? All the way to Maryland and you did not get to play any Maryland teams.

Elevate 2021 played the top MD teams and went undefeated! This is a very strong group from Long Island. Not sure there will be a whole lot of competition this summer. Hoping there will be more competition in MA this summer!

Noticed YJA is duckiing all the top teams this coming weekend? Driving all the way to PA to play Liberty? No Hereos, SW or M&D? I get it's a showcase but is CR that insecure about this age group? At least we know where the college coaches won't be standing.

Funny but being from md, I don't even recognize the clubs that were at summer showcase.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This must be a Team Elevate 2021 Blue parent. Well they Played two Prime Time teams tied one and won by one goal, no competition right. They also played a Phantastix 2021 White team won easily and PA Express 2021 Orange won easily. No top team was there, no middle tier teams were there.

Did they play any Maryland teams? All the way to Maryland and you did not get to play any Maryland teams.

Elevate 2021 played the top MD teams and went undefeated! This is a very strong group from Long Island. Not sure there will be a whole lot of competition this summer. Hoping there will be more competition in MA this summer!

Noticed YJA is duckiing all the top teams this coming weekend? Driving all the way to PA to play Liberty? No Hereos, SW or M&D? I get it's a showcase but is CR that insecure about this age group? At least we know where the college coaches won't be standing.

Hmmmm?? Yes you are correct, and it is not going unnoticed. And, isn't every tournament a showcase?

I think this is sarcasm.

Im an elevate parent and there is no way someone from our team would say we played top MD teams and went undefeated. We know who top teams are. And primetime was a very good team. Im calling a disgruntled parent trying to stir the pot. And for them to say a not alot of competition this summer is such a bulls*** line i know its not an elevate parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This must be a Team Elevate 2021 Blue parent. Well they Played two Prime Time teams tied one and won by one goal, no competition right. They also played a Phantastix 2021 White team won easily and PA Express 2021 Orange won easily. No top team was there, no middle tier teams were there.

Did they play any Maryland teams? All the way to Maryland and you did not get to play any Maryland teams.

Elevate 2021 played the top MD teams and went undefeated! This is a very strong group from Long Island. Not sure there will be a whole lot of competition this summer. Hoping there will be more competition in MA this summer!

Noticed YJA is duckiing all the top teams this coming weekend? Driving all the way to PA to play Liberty? No Hereos, SW or M&D? I get it's a showcase but is CR that insecure about this age group? At least we know where the college coaches won't be standing.

Hmmmm?? Yes you are correct, and it is not going unnoticed. And, isn't every tournament a showcase?

You know what's more embarrassing then some tough guy who wants to knock Elevate and where they play? Answer: YJA National Draw schedule!!!

Stars is decent but a step down from top three. Of course everyone can have a bad game but...

Rankings with some numbers of strength out of 100. Not an mnd parent either. Promise. This summer will make things more clear.

1. Mnd. 9
2. Sw 8.5
3. Heros 8.4
4. Stars 7.5

Top 4 in md. Will update in 6 weeks

CR will be scouting the Liberty black team. It's the only LI team she hasn't recruited all the talent from!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR will be scouting the Liberty black team. It's the only LI team she hasn't recruited all the talent from!

Liberty is going to shellac YJ this weekend and the best LIb players would never consider playing for this train wreck of a club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This must be a Team Elevate 2021 Blue parent. Well they Played two Prime Time teams tied one and won by one goal, no competition right. They also played a Phantastix 2021 White team won easily and PA Express 2021 Orange won easily. No top team was there, no middle tier teams were there.

Did they play any Maryland teams? All the way to Maryland and you did not get to play any Maryland teams.

Elevate 2021 played the top MD teams and went undefeated! This is a very strong group from Long Island. Not sure there will be a whole lot of competition this summer. Hoping there will be more competition in MA this summer!

Noticed YJA is duckiing all the top teams this coming weekend? Driving all the way to PA to play Liberty? No Hereos, SW or M&D? I get it's a showcase but is CR that insecure about this age group? At least we know where the college coaches won't be standing.

Hmmmm?? Yes you are correct, and it is not going unnoticed. And, isn't every tournament a showcase?

You know what's more embarrassing then some tough guy who wants to knock Elevate and where they play? Answer: YJA National Draw schedule!!!

Umm since you mentioned it I had to check; they're in your bracket so what's the implication?

Just face it the talent level in the 21 class on Long Island is not very strong. 22 is much stronger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stars is decent but a step down from top three. Of course everyone can have a bad game but...

Rankings with some numbers of strength out of 100. Not an mnd parent either. Promise. This summer will make things more clear.

1. Mnd. 9
2. Sw 8.5
3. Heros 8.4
4. Stars 7.5

Top 4 in md. Will update in 6 weeks

TEAM ELEVATE 2021 BLUE - 8.8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just face it the talent level in the 21 class on Long Island is not very strong. 22 is much stronger.

Yes...I'm sure you have done an in-depth study and compared the two classes......oh yea, and I'm sure your kid is the top 22 player. Geez......you are in the running for the stupidest post this year......congrats

Some classes are stronger than others and it is easy to make that assessment by just looking at the top YJ team and how successful and talented they are. Would people agree?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some classes are stronger than others and it is easy to make that assessment by just looking at the top YJ team and how successful and talented they are. Would people agree?

Ha....very funny but a good one. Second dumbest statement. This thread is 2 for 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR will be scouting the Liberty black team. It's the only LI team she hasn't recruited all the talent from!

Liberty is going to shellac YJ this weekend and the best LIb players would never consider playing for this train wreck of a club.

Is this the year that Liberty passes YJ and leaves them in the dust ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some classes are stronger than others and it is easy to make that assessment by just looking at the top YJ team and how successful and talented they are. Would people agree?

Yup. The universe revolves around YJ - so, if they are bad then the whole universe is bad. You need to get off the island more often.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just face it the talent level in the 21 class on Long Island is not very strong. 22 is much stronger.

Trying to get a bite. So both age groups are very strong for YJ. Better than your club, unless you play for M&D black, Heros green, SW blue or Stars, you are in a different conversation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CR will be scouting the Liberty black team. It's the only LI team she hasn't recruited all the talent from!

Liberty is going to shellac YJ this weekend and the best LIb players would never consider playing for this train wreck of a club.

Is this the year that Liberty passes YJ and leaves them in the dust ?

Must be nice being able to hang out at the clubhouse and put a few down before lunch after playing 18 in the morning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just face it the talent level in the 21 class on Long Island is not very strong. 22 is much stronger.

Trying to get a bite. So both age groups are very strong for YJ. Better than your club, unless you play for M&D black, Heros green, SW blue or Stars, you are in a different conversation.

Has YJ A played any games yet? Curious as to why they would not want to face any of those teams you mentioned since no other LI club should be in the same conversation?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just face it the talent level in the 21 class on Long Island is not very strong. 22 is much stronger.

Trying to get a bite. So both age groups are very strong for YJ. Better than your club, unless you play for M&D black, Heros green, SW blue or Stars, you are in a different conversation.

Has YJ A played any games yet? Curious as to why they would not want to face any of those teams you mentioned since no other LI club should be in the same conversation?

Y.J. A have not played with their full team since last summer. Time to play some games. Good luck to all and safe travels as the summer season starts up.

YJ A can put down all other LI teams but will be driving 3-4 hours and play B teams in a tournament that all the top MD clubs are attending? What an embarrassment! Parents would be better offer spending their money on camps.

Should be an interesting match between YJ Skak and Cobra Kia @ Naional Draw. Bet the college coaches will be lined up for that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ A can put down all other LI teams but will be driving 3-4 hours and play B teams in a tournament that all the top MD clubs are attending? What an embarrassment! Parents would be better offer spending their money on camps.

Very true!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be an interesting match between YJ Skak and Cobra Kia @ Naional Draw. Bet the college coaches will be lined up for that game.

There won't be any college coaches at any 2021 games this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be an interesting match between YJ Skak and Cobra Kia @ Naional Draw. Bet the college coaches will be lined up for that game.

There won't be any college coaches at any 2021 games this year.

There were college coaches watching 2021 AND 2022 at Impulse. They had blocked off areas for college coaches only, with plenty sitting there with clipboards. No contact doesn't mean they can't watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be an interesting match between YJ Skak and Cobra Kia @ Naional Draw. Bet the college coaches will be lined up for that game.

There won't be any college coaches at any 2021 games this year.

.

Just about as wrong as you can get, but thanks for posting.

That was probably the dumbest remark on this post to date and there have been plenty of them.

Just a heads up to all you 2021 parents . Don't waste your money on the Under Armour underclass man girls teams. Unless you know who the evaluators are in advance . One NJ team had 2 evaluators from 2 NJ Clubs ... result out of 22 selected 15 were from their clubs! That's 70%! They were over 150 girls there . Oh and btw who here thinks BBL and T3 are strong clubs? Don't need to look far check out the commit list! Under Armour is at fault here for not using an impartial evaluation team considering the $ they charge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a heads up to all you 2021 parents . Don't waste your money on the Under Armour underclass man girls teams. Unless you know who the evaluators are in advance . One NJ team had 2 evaluators from 2 NJ Clubs ... result out of 22 selected 15 were from their clubs! That's 70%! They were over 150 girls there . Oh and btw who here thinks BBL and T3 are strong clubs? Don't need to look far check out the commit list! Under Armour is at fault here for not using an impartial evaluation team considering the $ they charge.

Under Armour has always been a waste of time money grab....my daughter is a top player, but we pass on this one! Wait till they're seniors, then the actual best girls are chosen, play for free, and it is prestigious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a heads up to all you 2021 parents . Don't waste your money on the Under Armour underclass man girls teams. Unless you know who the evaluators are in advance . One NJ team had 2 evaluators from 2 NJ Clubs ... result out of 22 selected 15 were from their clubs! That's 70%! They were over 150 girls there . Oh and btw who here thinks BBL and T3 are strong clubs? Don't need to look far check out the commit list! Under Armour is at fault here for not using an impartial evaluation team considering the $ they charge.

Under Armour has always been a waste of time money grab....my daughter is a top player, but we pass on this one! Wait till they're seniors, then the actual best girls are chosen, play for free, and it is prestigious.

I drank the kool-aid for 5 years. I am cutting back on all extras except club practices and tournaments. Haven't looked into the Under Armour as a result of the new recruiting rules, but I know the Brine was a complete waste of money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a heads up to all you 2021 parents . Don't waste your money on the Under Armour underclass man girls teams. Unless you know who the evaluators are in advance . One NJ team had 2 evaluators from 2 NJ Clubs ... result out of 22 selected 15 were from their clubs! That's 70%! They were over 150 girls there . Oh and btw who here thinks BBL and T3 are strong clubs? Don't need to look far check out the commit list! Under Armour is at fault here for not using an impartial evaluation team considering the $ they charge.

Under Armour has always been a waste of time money grab....my daughter is a top player, but we pass on this one! Wait till they're seniors, then the actual best girls are chosen, play for free, and it is prestigious.

I drank the kool-aid for 5 years. I am cutting back on all extras except club practices and tournaments. Haven't looked into the Under Armour as a result of the new recruiting rules, but I know the Brine was a complete waste of money.

I think what we need to realize is one size does not fit all in terms of camps et al. Some families have $$$, others don't. Some families have multiple kids to worry about, others don't. Some kids like participating in camps, others don't. At the end of the day, you need to reflect on what works for you and your family. I believe, unfortunately, that lax is becoming a "keeping up with the Jones'" scenario in which we worry about what the competition is doing and not focusing on whats best for our own situation.

Hey Dave. Team Elevate 8.8? I thought you'd go right for a 10.0.

Couldn't agree more ! UNCER ARMOUR A JOKE If your committed it means nothing ..remember everyone is good,when you get there!!!

Sour grapes much? You do realize UA 2021 were competing for a spot against 2020s? There were very few 2021 picked overall - my daughter was not selected but was called back and the 21s who did make team were amazing players. I am not from "that club" either.

Can you share which clubs had evaluators there ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sour grapes much? You do realize UA 2021 were competing for a spot against 2020s? There were very few 2021 picked overall - my daughter was not selected but was called back and the 21s who did make team were amazing players. I am not from "that club" either.

My daughter is trying out next week but my expectation is not very high. I agree with a prior post that given the amount we pay for the privilege to tryout out, they should have unbiased evaluators. To me, why couldn't the NJ and LI evaluators have swapped? When you read the UA website it all sounds great that every girl has a shot, just a number no names and then a bunch of connected cronies to various town/clubs show up as the evaluators.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a heads up to all you 2021 parents . Don't waste your money on the Under Armour underclass man girls teams. Unless you know who the evaluators are in advance . One NJ team had 2 evaluators from 2 NJ Clubs ... result out of 22 selected 15 were from their clubs! That's 70%! They were over 150 girls there . Oh and btw who here thinks BBL and T3 are strong clubs? Don't need to look far check out the commit list! Under Armour is at fault here for not using an impartial evaluation team considering the $ they charge.

Under Armour has always been a waste of time money grab....my daughter is a top player, but we pass on this one! Wait till they're seniors, then the actual best girls are chosen, play for free, and it is prestigious.

I drank the kool-aid for 5 years. I am cutting back on all extras except club practices and tournaments. Haven't looked into the Under Armour as a result of the new recruiting rules, but I know the Brine was a complete waste of money.

Agree, Brine was a fun one and done experience. Participating more than once is a complete waste of money.

Any coaches at the games yesterday?

Summer Genesis: Skywalkers 2021 Blue just beat M&D 2021 Black 15 - 6.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer Genesis: Skywalkers 2021 Blue just beat M&D 2021 Black 15 - 6.

Wow. The spring league loss wasn't a fluke.

Skywalkers are for real. Amazing how far they have come in 2 years

Bbl and t3'

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Tourney Machine sucks. Hasn't been updated since yesterday for the 2021s. Any upsets or noteworthy scores we should be adware of?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any coaches at the games yesterday?

MD, Florida, VA Tech, Loyola, Towson, Penn State.

So to the know it all that said no coach would be watching 21' s, glad I didn't listen to you and keep my kid home. Now she is going to a great school.

^what about T3/BBL ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

No kid on either team. It was really good to see 2 Long Island teams play a great game against each other. Liberty 21 is a very strong team. It was good to see the top clubs TG, YJ, Liberty all in one place this weekend competing against the top MD clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any coaches at the games yesterday?

MD, Florida, VA Tech, Loyola, Towson, Penn State.

So to the know it all that said no coach would be watching 21' s, glad I didn't listen to you and keep my kid home. Now she is going to a great school.

I think it's great that some college coaches were watching. But I wouldn't get too worked up over it. After all, they can't talk to your kid for another 27 months. Truth is most schools will not be focusing on this age group yet as most are still looking at 2019 and 2020. Some of the schools that you listed were HEAVY into the early recruiting so they're they are potentially done with those classes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Tourney Machine sucks. Hasn't been updated since yesterday for the 2021s. Any upsets or noteworthy scores we should be adware of?

Funny how when YJ lose, the tourney machine is not updated.

Tourney machine should be ashamed of their organization, they know these kids are relying on them to get the information out, unbiased report the scores, straight out. Coaches do look at it.
Get it right in a timely fashion, as advertised, or use another company that will.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Tourney Machine sucks. Hasn't been updated since yesterday for the 2021s. Any upsets or noteworthy scores we should be adware of?

Funny how when YJ lose, the tourney machine is not updated.

Tourney machine should be ashamed of their organization, they know these kids are relying on them to get the information out, unbiased report the scores, straight out. Coaches do look at it.
Get it right in a timely fashion, as advertised, or use another company that will.

Take it easy guy...

Kids or psycho parents ( like you) are relying on scores. No playoffs so scores are irrelevant

[quote=Anonymous]They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Surprising loss for YJ Rose considering they added the top players from TG.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kids or psycho parents ( like you) are relying on scores. No playoffs so scores are irrelevant

This statement makes no sense. Playoffs or not, scores are relevant. That's why they play the games. You seem overly sensitive so I'll take a stab and say your daughter's team didn't do so well this weekend? It's OK, no one will care once the games begin again next weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Surprising loss for YJ Rose considering they added the top players from TG.

I thought that team would win all games with Rose coaching. They used to be able to blame Daddy coach who is clueless but now with Rose on the sideline they have nothing to blame for the loss but lack of talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Never saw the attraction of standing on the sideline of an "A" team when you could be getting substantial playing time on another club. College coaches don't care who wins anyway, so what benefit is your daughter getting if she's not seeing the field??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kids or psycho parents ( like you) are relying on scores. No playoffs so scores are irrelevant

This statement makes no sense. Playoffs or not, scores are relevant. That's why they play the games. You seem overly sensitive so I'll take a stab and say your daughter's team didn't do so well this weekend? It's OK, no one will care once the games begin again next weekend.

Showcase moron...thought everybody says its a selfish sport...now your saying its a team sport...which one is it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Never saw the attraction of standing on the sideline of an "A" team when you could be getting substantial playing time on another club. College coaches don't care who wins anyway, so what benefit is your daughter getting if she's not seeing the field??

No benefit for the player, just for the parent who can brag at the water cooler on Monday morning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Surprising loss for YJ Rose considering they added the top players from TG.

I thought that team would win all games with Rose coaching. They used to be able to blame Daddy coach who is clueless but now with Rose on the sideline they have nothing to blame for the loss but lack of talent.

Maybe they are not as good as they thought they would be! Keyboards don't play the games the kids do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

No kid on either team. It was really good to see 2 Long Island teams play a great game against each other. Liberty 21 is a very strong team. It was good to see the top clubs TG, YJ, Liberty all in one place this weekend competing against the top MD clubs.

Where was Elevate hiding this week? Did they go 4-0 in a tournament in Nebraska? Were the wins posted on Social Media?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are for real. Amazing how far they have come in 2 years

M&D dad is awfully quiet. Is there panic within the Fortress? Skywalkers didn't just win the game, they put an absolute beat down on you. What happened?

Just a shame, once again, that LI teams have to face-off against each other @ a PA. tournament 4+ hours away...

Yeah, you bet Elevate played in Nebraska, or some other also-ran tournament...and yeah, they went 4-0 against PAL caliber teams....but hey, those neat Championship tee-shirts look cool!

Wow...crickets regarding the M&D v. Skywalker game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a shame, once again, that LI teams have to face-off against each other @ a PA. tournament 4+ hours away...

Agreed. No one wants to play someone from the local area at an out of town tourney. Common sense should prevail when making out the schedule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are for real. Amazing how far they have come in 2 years

M&D dad is awfully quiet. Is there panic within the Fortress? Skywalkers didn't just win the game, they put an absolute beat down on you. What happened?

MDU gave Skywalkers a better game than M&D did.

Did anyone else see a creepy guy from another "L"ocal "L"ong Island team videoing the YJ 21 gold play? Kinda weird. If he wants to watch our girls play that badly he should have had his kid try out. I think he was the same guy i saw arguing with one of the coaches from TG. Type of gut that puts the "crazy" in Crazy Lax Dad. LOL

Skywalker's team speed was on display yesterday. M&D is really missing the girl that has a knee injury. She is a significant contributor. They have had other's go down with injuries and were missing girls yesterday for other reasons. Kudos for the way Skywalker's played but expect future games with both teams at full strength to be closer. It would have been nice if LI Liberty and YJ got to play SW and M&D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are for real. Amazing how far they have come in 2 years

M&D dad is awfully quiet. Is there panic within the Fortress? Skywalkers didn't just win the game, they put an absolute beat down on you. What happened?

MDU gave Skywalkers a better game than M&D did.

Was that the worst beating M&D 2021 ever received?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalker's team speed was on display yesterday. M&D is really missing the girl that has a knee injury. She is a significant contributor. They have had other's go down with injuries and were missing girls yesterday for other reasons. Kudos for the way Skywalker's played but expect future games with both teams at full strength to be closer. It would have been nice if LI Liberty and YJ got to play SW and M&D.

Every team deals with injuries and kids missing for other functions. There is nothing wrong with admitting other clubs are catching up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalker's team speed was on display yesterday. M&D is really missing the girl that has a knee injury. She is a significant contributor. They have had other's go down with injuries and were missing girls yesterday for other reasons. Kudos for the way Skywalker's played but expect future games with both teams at full strength to be closer. It would have been nice if LI Liberty and YJ got to play SW and M&D.

Stop it. M&D parents have always sang about how the success is all based on their style of unselfish play and the stacked roster 1-25 that's almost interchangeable. You're experiencing what mortality on the lax field feels like. The team might learn a valuable life lesson.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are for real. Amazing how far they have come in 2 years

M&D dad is awfully quiet. Is there panic within the Fortress? Skywalkers didn't just win the game, they put an absolute beat down on you. What happened?

MDU gave Skywalkers a better game than M&D did.

Was that the worst beating M&D 2021 ever received?

For this squad, yes. They've only lost a handful of times in the past couple of years and those were only by a few goals.

Injuries do hit every team. SWs are missing a couple due to injury as well. M&D does miss their best player though. Too bad for anyone to get injured. Better at 14 than 16 given the new recruiting rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalker's team speed was on display yesterday. M&D is really missing the girl that has a knee injury. She is a significant contributor. They have had other's go down with injuries and were missing girls yesterday for other reasons. Kudos for the way Skywalker's played but expect future games with both teams at full strength to be closer. It would have been nice if LI Liberty and YJ got to play SW and M&D.

Stop it. M&D parents have always sang about how the success is all based on their style of unselfish play and the stacked roster 1-25 that's almost interchangeable. You're experiencing what mortality on the lax field feels like. The team might learn a valuable life lesson.

SW and M&D play this weekend at Laxin Out Loud. We won't have to wait long to see if this game is closer than the 9 goal differential game that occurred this weekend. I don't see how it can get any worse. It's tough seeing how one girl down with a knee injury can account for such pounding. Me thinks there are other issues as well they need to fix before this weekend.

elevate lost to mass elite 4-3 in final in NE invt in Amherst

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]They were difinitley watching Liberty 2021 Black as they defeated YJ Rose 10-8 at the summer genesis this weekend.
And that was with 15 subs standing on the YJ sideline.

Way to go Liberty!

Surprising loss for YJ Rose considering they added the top players from TG.

I thought that team would win all games with Rose coaching. They used to be able to blame Daddy coach who is clueless but now with Rose on the sideline they have nothing to blame for the loss but lack of talent.

Maybe they are not as good as they thought they would be! Keyboards don't play the games the kids do.

Truth is for all the hype they didnt look or play very good. Let's see, trouble winning the draw, middies who can't play D, defenders who look lost, trouble transitioning the ball, bad passing and forced shots just for starters. Liberty was the better team and will only get better as the new players settle in. Pretty clear why CR didnt want this team playing the top MD clubs. Looks like we have a new sherrif in town!

No reason to panic. M&D will do what they do best. Their coach will poach a new crop of girls. Maybe stick a couple of keepers in goal at the same time. They will be fine. If you can't beat 'em, steal their players!

I said it last year. M&D has a midfield problem and this game is largely dictated by midfielders. The first team midfield for Skywalkers is the best in the country. YJ is the only team that I have seen with comparable middies. Other teams like Heros and even TLC have middies as good or better. TLC's draw girl made the UA team. The draw girl from Heros always gives M&D fits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalker's team speed was on display yesterday. M&D is really missing the girl that has a knee injury. She is a significant contributor. They have had other's go down with injuries and were missing girls yesterday for other reasons. Kudos for the way Skywalker's played but expect future games with both teams at full strength to be closer. It would have been nice if LI Liberty and YJ got to play SW and M&D.

Stop it. M&D parents have always sang about how the success is all based on their style of unselfish play and the stacked roster 1-25 that's almost interchangeable. You're experiencing what mortality on the lax field feels like. The team might learn a valuable life lesson.

SW and M&D play this weekend at Laxin Out Loud. We won't have to wait long to see if this game is closer than the 9 goal differential game that occurred this weekend. I don't see how it can get any worse. It's tough seeing how one girl down with a knee injury can account for such pounding. Me thinks there are other issues as well they need to fix before this weekend.

Well said girl didn't play in the fall when M&D beat Skywalkers so obviously they can compete without her. SW played a great game Sunday and M&D did not. They are 14 yr old girls. It happens. They are the 2 best teams in the country and should have many great games over the next few years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No reason to panic. M&D will do what they do best. Their coach will poach a new crop of girls. Maybe stick a couple of keepers in goal at the same time. They will be fine. If you can't beat 'em, steal their players!

You do realize that they added one girl from the M&D red team. No one from another club. Guessing this is an MDU parent since your team can't compete now that your players have left for M&D, Skywalkers and TLC?

FYI, your girls weren't poached, they left because they weren't happy with MDU.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I said it last year. M&D has a midfield problem and this game is largely dictated by midfielders. The first team midfield for Skywalkers is the best in the country. YJ is the only team that I have seen with comparable middies. Other teams like Heros and even TLC have middies as good or better. TLC's draw girl made the UA team. The draw girl from Heros always gives M&D fits.

You said it last year when M&D didn't lose a single game? How prophetic of you. M&D is missing 2 of their best middies and best attacker. How would SW fair if you remove 127, 1 and 48?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are for real. Amazing how far they have come in 2 years

M&D dad is awfully quiet. Is there panic within the Fortress? Skywalkers didn't just win the game, they put an absolute beat down on you. What happened?

MDU gave Skywalkers a better game than M&D did.

Was that the worst beating M&D 2021 ever received?

Yes, it is the worst of the 4 games that the girls have lost since 5th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are for real. Amazing how far they have come in 2 years

M&D dad is awfully quiet. Is there panic within the Fortress? Skywalkers didn't just win the game, they put an absolute beat down on you. What happened?

MDU gave Skywalkers a better game than M&D did.

Was that the worst beating M&D 2021 ever received?

Yes, it is the worst of the 4 games that the girls have lost since 5th grade.

But 2 of those 4 losses in 5 years occurred in a span of a month.

Anyone go to the Under Armor tryouts last night?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

elevate lost to mass elite 4-3 in final in NE invt in Amherst

Who? And who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I said it last year. M&D has a midfield problem and this game is largely dictated by midfielders. The first team midfield for Skywalkers is the best in the country. YJ is the only team that I have seen with comparable middies. Other teams like Heros and even TLC have middies as good or better. TLC's draw girl made the UA team. The draw girl from Heros always gives M&D fits.

You said it last year when M&D didn't lose a single game? How prophetic of you. M&D is missing 2 of their best middies and best attacker. How would SW fair if you remove 127, 1 and 48?

My bad...I thought M&D lost to SW in Hagerstown last year? SW was missing 3 starters at Hagerstown in 2016. We were missing 3 girls last weekend as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone go to the Under Armor tryouts last night?

yes, I thought it was pretty well run. but the call backs were odd Imo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone go to the Under Armor tryouts last night?

yes, I thought it was pretty well run. but the call backs were odd Imo

There will always be a few deserving girls who slip through the cracks at these type of try outs. I'm sure some here, but you also get a large group of the entitled kids and parents who feel they should have made the cut, when in reality......
Anyway I think they did a good job on the call backs, most all those kids certainly deserve it.

where can we find the list of call backs or roster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone go to the Under Armor tryouts last night?

yes, I thought it was pretty well run. but the call backs were odd Imo

There will always be a few deserving girls who slip through the cracks at these type of try outs. I'm sure some here, but you also get a large group of the entitled kids and parents who feel they should have made the cut, when in reality......
Anyway I think they did a good job on the call backs, most all those kids certainly deserve it.

from what I saw the players who refused to pass and ran the length of the field got called back. Just a selfish style of play Imo, but I get that it is a tryout and that's how these things go. My daughter was glad she went, it was a good experience and gave her a better idea of where she stood with other players her age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone go to the Under Armor tryouts last night?

yes, I thought it was pretty well run. but the call backs were odd Imo

There will always be a few deserving girls who slip through the cracks at these type of try outs. I'm sure some here, but you also get a large group of the entitled kids and parents who feel they should have made the cut, when in reality......
Anyway I think they did a good job on the call backs, most all those kids certainly deserve it.

from what I saw the players who refused to pass and ran the length of the field got called back. Just a selfish style of play Imo, but I get that it is a tryout and that's how these things go. My daughter was glad she went, it was a good experience and gave her a better idea of where she stood with other players her age.

Can someone help out, I'm new to all of this. Where was this held and how did you get involved? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone go to the Under Armor tryouts last night?

yes, I thought it was pretty well run. but the call backs were odd Imo

There will always be a few deserving girls who slip through the cracks at these type of try outs. I'm sure some here, but you also get a large group of the entitled kids and parents who feel they should have made the cut, when in reality......
Anyway I think they did a good job on the call backs, most all those kids certainly deserve it.

from what I saw the players who refused to pass and ran the length of the field got called back. Just a selfish style of play Imo, but I get that it is a tryout and that's how these things go. My daughter was glad she went, it was a good experience and gave her a better idea of where she stood with other players her age.

Can someone help out, I'm new to all of this. Where was this held and how did you get involved? Thanks!

its the Under Armor All American lacrosse tryout. search google
there are also the Under Armor 150, the Brine team and the warrior team. follow these businesses on Twitter I find a lot of info that way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone go to the Under Armor tryouts last night?

yes, I thought it was pretty well run. but the call backs were odd Imo

There will always be a few deserving girls who slip through the cracks at these type of try outs. I'm sure some here, but you also get a large group of the entitled kids and parents who feel they should have made the cut, when in reality......
Anyway I think they did a good job on the call backs, most all those kids certainly deserve it.

from what I saw the players who refused to pass and ran the length of the field got called back. Just a selfish style of play Imo, but I get that it is a tryout and that's how these things go. My daughter was glad she went, it was a good experience and gave her a better idea of where she stood with other players her age.

Can someone help out, I'm new to all of this. Where was this held and how did you get involved? Thanks!

its the Under Armor All American lacrosse tryout. search google
there are also the Under Armor 150, the Brine team and the warrior team. follow these businesses on Twitter I find a lot of info that way

The UA is legit, Brine and Warrior are weak copies trying to emulate UA. Then the Nike 120 is legit and AU created the 150 trying to copy that, think that will be weak too. Many of these weak copycat versions are an expensive waste of time.

Weak because you say so. Give us a break

Talent level was very high at UA tryout. Do others agree? Great to see so many talented young players, many of which are not YJ kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Talent level was very high at UA tryout. Do others agree? Great to see so many talented young players, many of which are not YJ kids.

There was talent but most stacked on a couple of teams.

Heros 13
Md U. 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros 13
Md U. 2

Hard to believe some Heros posted that. Must be some D team parent from Integrity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heros 13
Md U. 2

Was that the playoff game? SW beat M&D in their final.

Skywalkers #1. M&D was tougher than heck in 6th grade though.

Did you not see m&d beat them after the skywalkers cheapshoted one of the best 21 players in the country

Expect more parity. M&D will have a tough time the rest of the summer. Good thing they have one more try out left.

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Aren't all M&D players starters? It's been my impression from reading posts that all the girls could start on ANY team in the 2021 age group. What ever happened to the "next man up" philosophy? The excuses we are hearing astound me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Don't need to wait for next year. It's fun this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Skywalkers are a good team but they are just a flat out dirty team who has no problem crosschecking from behind or anywhere else. Yes they are talented but they might start getting a taste of their own medicine. You don't have to be especially talented to knock down an opposing player. If you can dish it out expect to receive the same treatment.

Both teams will have significantly different rosters after August tryouts. The good players on all of the other teams will want to make Heros, M&D or SW before the teams lock for HS. The rich get richer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Skywalkers are a good team but they are just a flat out dirty team who has no problem crosschecking from behind or anywhere else. Yes they are talented but they might start getting a taste of their own medicine. You don't have to be especially talented to knock down an opposing player. If you can dish it out expect to receive the same treatment.

Bring it on.

threats from a team that often plays down due to more than four yellow cards in a game, nice!

Both programs are historically physical teams. The check that resulted in an injury was not intentional or dirty just like I'm sure the check to the face the skywalker player received was not intentional. The girls on each team care about each other and respect each other. Too bad that doesn't translate to the parents on each team. Sad.

The truth is they will beat each other several times over the next several years and we will be lucky to watch some great lacrosse.

Stop trying to ruin it with threats. I guarantee you the girls don't feel this way about each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Skywalkers are a good team but they are just a flat out dirty team who has no problem crosschecking from behind or anywhere else. Yes they are talented but they might start getting a taste of their own medicine. You don't have to be especially talented to knock down an opposing player. If you can dish it out expect to receive the same treatment.

Bring it on.

I guarantee this wasn't an M&D parent. That statement is not part of our value system. It's just another parent trying to stir things up.

Oh that's precious - "value system". Coming from probably a Maryland lacrosse parent - that's hilarious. How old is your daughter? How many years did you hold her back?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Skywalkers are a good team but they are just a flat out dirty team who has no problem crosschecking from behind or anywhere else. Yes they are talented but they might start getting a taste of their own medicine. You don't have to be especially talented to knock down an opposing player. If you can dish it out expect to receive the same treatment.

Bring it on.

I guarantee this wasn't an M&D parent. That statement is not part of our value system. It's just another parent trying to stir things up.

Either way, take it to the MD forum. We don't care.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Skywalkers are a good team but they are just a flat out dirty team who has no problem crosschecking from behind or anywhere else. Yes they are talented but they might start getting a taste of their own medicine. You don't have to be especially talented to knock down an opposing player. If you can dish it out expect to receive the same treatment.

M&D received a yellow card in the second half against SW. The SW girl was hit so hard in the face by the M&D girl that the bruise measured 8". It was an assault and battery by the M&D player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

threats from a team that often plays down due to more than four yellow cards in a game, nice!

Both programs are historically physical teams. The check that resulted in an injury was not intentional or dirty just like I'm sure the check to the face the skywalker player received was not intentional. The girls on each team care about each other and respect each other. Too bad that doesn't translate to the parents on each team. Sad.

The truth is they will beat each other several times over the next several years and we will be lucky to watch some great lacrosse.

Stop trying to ruin it with threats. I guarantee you the girls don't feel this way about each other.

Correct - those 2 girls do know each other and the M&D girl who was hurt may very well be college teammates with the SW girl.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

threats from a team that often plays down due to more than four yellow cards in a game, nice!

Both programs are historically physical teams. The check that resulted in an injury was not intentional or dirty just like I'm sure the check to the face the skywalker player received was not intentional. The girls on each team care about each other and respect each other. Too bad that doesn't translate to the parents on each team. Sad.

The truth is they will beat each other several times over the next several years and we will be lucky to watch some great lacrosse.

Stop trying to ruin it with threats. I guarantee you the girls don't feel this way about each other.

Correct - those 2 girls do know each other and the M&D girl who was hurt may very well be college teammates with the SW girl.

ahh.. so sweet. dont let the door hit you in the va**** on your way back the MD forum..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

threats from a team that often plays down due to more than four yellow cards in a game, nice!

Both programs are historically physical teams. The check that resulted in an injury was not intentional or dirty just like I'm sure the check to the face the skywalker player received was not intentional. The girls on each team care about each other and respect each other. Too bad that doesn't translate to the parents on each team. Sad.

The truth is they will beat each other several times over the next several years and we will be lucky to watch some great lacrosse.

Stop trying to ruin it with threats. I guarantee you the girls don't feel this way about each other.

Correct - those 2 girls do know each other and the M&D girl who was hurt may very well be college teammates with the SW girl.

ahh.. so sweet. dont let the door hit you in the va**** on your way back the MD forum..

Don't let facts get in the way of your snark.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both teams will have significantly different rosters after August tryouts. The good players on all of the other teams will want to make Heros, M&D or SW before the teams lock for HS. The rich get richer.

It would be foolish to move to these teams or any "elite" team for 3 reasons:
1. They would be resented for taking a spot of a former teammate
2. Why move from a club where you are a top dog to one where you might get little playing time?
3. Colleges don't care about the name on the front of the jersey, only the girl wearing it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh that's precious - "value system". Coming from probably a Maryland lacrosse parent - that's hilarious. How old is your daughter? How many years did you hold her back?

Hold backs are a boys lacrosse tactic, dip stick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both teams will have significantly different rosters after August tryouts. The good players on all of the other teams will want to make Heros, M&D or SW before the teams lock for HS. The rich get richer.

It would be foolish to move to these teams or any "elite" team for 3 reasons:
1. They would be resented for taking a spot of a former teammate
2. Why move from a club where you are a top dog to one where you might get little playing time?
3. Colleges don't care about the name on the front of the jersey, only the girl wearing it.

Let me add that many of the parents on these teams only care about the exploits of their own daughter and could give a crap about the team and other players. Enjoy spending your weekends with these winners.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh that's precious - "value system". Coming from probably a Maryland lacrosse parent - that's hilarious. How old is your daughter? How many years did you hold her back?

Hold backs are a boys lacrosse tactic, dip stick.

Keep believing that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both teams will have significantly different rosters after August tryouts. The good players on all of the other teams will want to make Heros, M&D or SW before the teams lock for HS. The rich get richer.

It would be foolish to move to these teams or any "elite" team for 3 reasons:
1. They would be resented for taking a spot of a former teammate
2. Why move from a club where you are a top dog to one where you might get little playing time?
3. Colleges don't care about the name on the front of the jersey, only the girl wearing it.

Let me add that many of the parents on these teams only care about the exploits of their own daughter and could give a crap about the team and other players. Enjoy spending your weekends with these winners.

Our daughter moved from a top 10 club to one of the above mentioned and it was the best decision she ever made. Both parents and players welcomed our family with open arms and the teammates were so much nicer. She is having to work harder to gain respect/playing time, but that is what competition is all about. BTW, colleges do care what club and you can just witness the amount of them on the sidelines of the above mentioned teams.

TG facing SW and M&D next weekend, need to give these guys credit! Why is YJ still ducking the top MD clubs? Thought with the crop of new talent and coach they would be lights out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both teams will have significantly different rosters after August tryouts. The good players on all of the other teams will want to make Heros, M&D or SW before the teams lock for HS. The rich get richer.

It would be foolish to move to these teams or any "elite" team for 3 reasons:
1. They would be resented for taking a spot of a former teammate
2. Why move from a club where you are a top dog to one where you might get little playing time?
3. Colleges don't care about the name on the front of the jersey, only the girl wearing it.

Let me add that many of the parents on these teams only care about the exploits of their own daughter and could give a crap about the team and other players. Enjoy spending your weekends with these winners.

Our daughter moved from a top 10 club to one of the above mentioned and it was the best decision she ever made. Both parents and players welcomed our family with open arms and the teammates were so much nicer. She is having to work harder to gain respect/playing time, but that is what competition is all about. BTW, colleges do care what club and you can just witness the amount of them on the sidelines of the above mentioned teams.

So happy for you.

I think Hero's is on YJ schedule this up coming weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Hero's is on YJ schedule this up coming weekend.

It'll be interesting to see which Heros team shows up: the one that throttled MD United 13-2 or the team that choked lost to them later in the bracket championship. Wildly inconsistent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh that's precious - "value system". Coming from probably a Maryland lacrosse parent - that's hilarious. How old is your daughter? How many years did you hold her back?

Hold backs are a boys lacrosse tactic, dip stick.

If you don't think there are holdbacks in girl's lacrosse, you need to wake the [lacrosse] up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG facing SW and M&D next weekend, need to give these guys credit! Why is YJ still ducking the top MD clubs? Thought with the crop of new talent and coach they would be lights out?

Do the clubs have control over who they play? I thought the tournament did that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh that's precious - "value system". Coming from probably a Maryland lacrosse parent - that's hilarious. How old is your daughter? How many years did you hold her back?

Hold backs are a boys lacrosse tactic, dip stick.

If you don't think there are holdbacks in girl's lacrosse, you need to wake the [lacrosse] up.

Please tell me what schools these girls are repeating grades. I have had kids in Baltimore private schools for 10 years now and know of one girl that has repeated a grade. Boys are another story.

LI coaches feed this nonsense to the parents and kids as an excuse why the MD teams keep kicking their asses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Aren't all M&D players starters? It's been my impression from reading posts that all the girls could start on ANY team in the 2021 age group. What ever happened to the "next man up" philosophy? The excuses we are hearing astound me.

Apparently all M&D girls could start on any team since they have beaten Skywalkers and Heros in the last two weeks missing so many girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Skywalkers are a good team but they are just a flat out dirty team who has no problem crosschecking from behind or anywhere else. Yes they are talented but they might start getting a taste of their own medicine. You don't have to be especially talented to knock down an opposing player. If you can dish it out expect to receive the same treatment.

Bring it on.

I guarantee this wasn't an M&D parent. That statement is not part of our value system. It's just another parent trying to stir things up.

Either way, take it to the MD forum. We don't care.

This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG facing SW and M&D next weekend, need to give these guys credit! Why is YJ still ducking the top MD clubs? Thought with the crop of new talent and coach they would be lights out?

Do the clubs have control over who they play? I thought the tournament did that?

I would almost guarantee that if you send as many teams as YJ does they have say.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG facing SW and M&D next weekend, need to give these guys credit! Why is YJ still ducking the top MD clubs? Thought with the crop of new talent and coach they would be lights out?

Do the clubs have control over who they play? I thought the tournament did that?

I would almost guarantee that if you send as many teams as YJ does they have say.

But TG might not be facing SW and M&D by choice. Maybe YJ set that up?

Yes, Rose has a say on schedule
Yes, they are ducking the competition
Yes, YJ are overrated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Skywalkers are a good team but they are just a flat out dirty team who has no problem crosschecking from behind or anywhere else. Yes they are talented but they might start getting a taste of their own medicine. You don't have to be especially talented to knock down an opposing player. If you can dish it out expect to receive the same treatment.

Bring it on.

I guarantee this wasn't an M&D parent. That statement is not part of our value system. It's just another parent trying to stir things up.

Either way, take it to the MD forum. We don't care.

This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?

It's the Main Forum for "Northeast Lacrosse" - check the title page.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Weak because you say so. Give us a break

Weak because nobody tries out or goes to those events. The very first year the Brine event had a few of the top kids go, mostly out of curiosity, it is a skip event now. The Under Armour is the end all event. Every single top kid tries out for this, it is the only event that you get that kind of response, and there not even a remotely close second.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D will be just fine. Missing 5 starters. One of which broke her collarbone today thanks to a cheap shot in the full game against SW(that M&D won). For all this talk, M&D and SW are 2-2 against each other this year. Keep talking. It will be fun next year when the teams are at full strength.

Skywalkers are a good team but they are just a flat out dirty team who has no problem crosschecking from behind or anywhere else. Yes they are talented but they might start getting a taste of their own medicine. You don't have to be especially talented to knock down an opposing player. If you can dish it out expect to receive the same treatment.

Bring it on.

I guarantee this wasn't an M&D parent. That statement is not part of our value system. It's just another parent trying to stir things up.

Either way, take it to the MD forum. We don't care.

This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?

This is your first time through this whole club lacrosse thing, isn't it? Wasn't SW irrelevant just a year ago in 2021? If you had been through this before, you would know that right about this time - the playing field will definitely even out and those "irrelevant teams" will be making quite a bit of noise. Look at what's going on with the older teams before you make such wild proclamations. I'm not a LI parent, but, I do know they will be serving up the crow if your predictions are off. Just let them play and enjoy the ride.

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I guarantee this wasn't an M&D parent. That statement is not part of our value system. It's just another parent trying to stir things up.[/quote]

Either way, take it to the MD forum. We don't care.

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This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?
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This is your first time through this whole club lacrosse thing, isn't it? Wasn't SW irrelevant just a year ago in 2021? If you had been through this before, you would know that right about this time - the playing field will definitely even out and those "irrelevant teams" will be making quite a bit of noise. Look at what's going on with the older teams before you make such wild proclamations. I'm not a LI parent, but, I do know they will be serving up the crow if your predictions are off. Just let them play and enjoy the ride. [/quote]

YJ will go 2-2 this weekend. They'll beat Salt City Snipers and TLC on Sat. then lose to Heros and MD United on Sunday. No hardware this year for our LI friends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guarantee this wasn't an M&D parent. That statement is not part of our value system. It's just another parent trying to stir things up.[/quote]

Either way, take it to the MD forum. We don't care.

[/quote]

This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?
[/quote]

This is your first time through this whole club lacrosse thing, isn't it? Wasn't SW irrelevant just a year ago in 2021? If you had been through this before, you would know that right about this time - the playing field will definitely even out and those "irrelevant teams" will be making quite a bit of noise. Look at what's going on with the older teams before you make such wild proclamations. I'm not a LI parent, but, I do know they will be serving up the crow if your predictions are off. Just let them play and enjoy the ride. [/quote]

YJ will go 2-2 this weekend. They'll beat Salt City Snipers and TLC on Sat. then lose to Heros and MD United on Sunday. No hardware this year for our LI friends.
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Dont care what YJ does. But would like to repeat THIS IS NOT THE MAIN FORUM. IT CLEARLY STATES "NORTHEAST". MD & vicinity have their own forum. So go pat your chests over there.

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This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?
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This is your first time through this whole club lacrosse thing, isn't it? Wasn't SW irrelevant just a year ago in 2021? If you had been through this before, you would know that right about this time - the playing field will definitely even out and those "irrelevant teams" will be making quite a bit of noise. Look at what's going on with the older teams before you make such wild proclamations. I'm not a LI parent, but, I do know they will be serving up the crow if your predictions are off. Just let them play and enjoy the ride. [/quote]

YJ will go 2-2 this weekend. They'll beat Salt City Snipers and TLC on Sat. then lose to Heros and MD United on Sunday. No hardware this year for our LI friends.
[/quote]

Dont care what YJ does. But would like to repeat THIS IS NOT THE MAIN FORUM. IT CLEARLY STATES "NORTHEAST". MD & vicinity have their own forum. So go pat your chests over there. [/quote]

Agreed. YJ will lose to Heros and MDU on Sunday. Wonder how the rest of the Maryland teams will fare this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?

This is your first time through this whole club lacrosse thing, isn't it? Wasn't SW irrelevant just a year ago in 2021? If you had been through this before, you would know that right about this time - the playing field will definitely even out and those "irrelevant teams" will be making quite a bit of noise. Look at what's going on with the older teams before you make such wild proclamations. I'm not a LI parent, but, I do know they will be serving up the crow if your predictions are off. Just let them play and enjoy the ride. [/quote]

YJ will go 2-2 this weekend. They'll beat Salt City Snipers and TLC on Sat. then lose to Heros and MD United on Sunday. No hardware this year for our LI friends.
[/quote]

Dont care what YJ does. But would like to repeat THIS IS NOT THE MAIN FORUM. IT CLEARLY STATES "NORTHEAST". MD & vicinity have their own forum. So go pat your chests over there. [/quote]

Agreed. YJ will lose to Heros and MDU on Sunday. Wonder how the rest of the Maryland teams will fare this weekend?[/quote]

It all comes down to the draw circle. If YJ wins at the circle they will win if they don't they will lose. Win possession you control the tempo and the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[

This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?

This is your first time through this whole club lacrosse thing, isn't it? Wasn't SW irrelevant just a year ago in 2021? If you had been through this before, you would know that right about this time - the playing field will definitely even out and those "irrelevant teams" will be making quite a bit of noise. Look at what's going on with the older teams before you make such wild proclamations. I'm not a LI parent, but, I do know they will be serving up the crow if your predictions are off. Just let them play and enjoy the ride.

YJ will go 2-2 this weekend. They'll beat Salt City Snipers and TLC on Sat. then lose to Heros and MD United on Sunday. No hardware this year for our LI friends.
[/quote]

Dont care what YJ does. But would like to repeat THIS IS NOT THE MAIN FORUM. IT CLEARLY STATES "NORTHEAST". MD & vicinity have their own forum. So go pat your chests over there. [/quote]

Agreed. YJ will lose to Heros and MDU on Sunday. Wonder how the rest of the Maryland teams will fare this weekend?[/quote]

It all comes down to the draw circle. If YJ wins at the circle they will win if they don't they will lose. Win possession you control the tempo and the game.[/quote].

That was the teams shortcoming on the circle last year but only vs the top teams it seems, this year they have some new options that look pretty good. Always tough to stay in the game against the top teams if you don't have at least split ball control. We will see how it works out.

This is your first time through this whole club lacrosse thing, isn't it? Wasn't SW irrelevant just a year ago in 2021? If you had been through this before, you would know that right about this time - the playing field will definitely even out and those "irrelevant teams" will be making quite a bit of noise. Look at what's going on with the older teams before you make such wild proclamations. I'm not a LI parent, but, I do know they will be serving up the crow if your predictions are off. Just let them play and enjoy the ride. [/quote]

YJ will go 2-2 this weekend. They'll beat Salt City Snipers and TLC on Sat. then lose to Heros and MD United on Sunday. No hardware this year for our LI friends.
[/quote]

Dont care what YJ does. But would like to repeat THIS IS NOT THE MAIN FORUM. IT CLEARLY STATES "NORTHEAST". MD & vicinity have their own forum. So go pat your chests over there. [/quote]

Agreed. YJ will lose to Heros and MDU on Sunday. Wonder how the rest of the Maryland teams will fare this weekend?[/quote]

It all comes down to the draw circle. If YJ wins at the circle they will win if they don't they will lose. Win possession you control the tempo and the game.[/quote].

That was the teams shortcoming on the circle last year but only vs the top teams it seems, this year they have some new options that look pretty good. Always tough to stay in the game against the top teams if you don't have at least split ball control. We will see how it works out.
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Did they use those new options when they played Liberty or is there a new secret weapon? Sorry, but to say the shortcoming was only when they played top teams is a stupid statement, YJA should only be playing top teams!

So with YJ not being the clear dominant team in the age group where do all of the club jumpers go this off season?

[quote=Anonymous]So with YJ not being the clear dominant team in the age group where do all of the club jumpers go this off season?[/quote

The summer season is literally 2 weeks old ...... a little early for off season prognostications no ? YJ lost one game to a LI team I know that down in Maryland they are the only team worth giving a second thought to. Always give us a good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So with YJ not being the clear dominant team in the age group where do all of the club jumpers go this off season?[/quote

The summer season is literally 2 weeks old ...... a little early for off season prognostications no ? YJ lost one game to a LI team I know that down in Maryland they are the only team worth giving a second thought to. Always give us a good game.

Thanks YJ parent posing as someone else. Didn't you lose down in MD to a Long Island team recently.... Oh yeah Liberty that was it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guarantee this wasn't an M&D parent. That statement is not part of our value system. It's just another parent trying to stir things up.[/quote]

Either way, take it to the MD forum. We don't care.

[/quote]

This is the main forum. Not the LI forum. Besides, LI teams are irrelevant at 2021. When's the last time a LI team has beaten M&D, SW or Heros?
[/quote]

This is your first time through this whole club lacrosse thing, isn't it? Wasn't SW irrelevant just a year ago in 2021? If you had been through this before, you would know that right about this time - the playing field will definitely even out and those "irrelevant teams" will be making quite a bit of noise. Look at what's going on with the older teams before you make such wild proclamations. I'm not a LI parent, but, I do know they will be serving up the crow if your predictions are off. Just let them play and enjoy the ride. [/quote]

YJ will go 2-2 this weekend. They'll beat Salt City Snipers and TLC on Sat. then lose to Heros and MD United on Sunday. No hardware this year for our LI friends.
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Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

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Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game. [/quote]

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game. [/quote]

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!! [/quote]

Not impressed today!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!! [/quote]

Not impressed today!
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Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!! [/quote]

Not impressed today!
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You're right, they won their bracket and lost to the eventual winner by a goal in the semi finals. They suck !

Very good team. Fast, physical, good in the middle of the field and good goalie play. Look forward to playing again soon.

SW parent's observation- YJ are a handful. Tough, physical, with talent all over the field. They will give everyone a battle and are capable of beating anyone, anytime. Have a fun summer watching the girls play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!
[/quote]

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.
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And the B team is better?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!
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Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.

CR didn't want those girls from other clubs to play them she just wanted to hurt TG. Mission accomplished.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.

CR didn't want those girls from other clubs to play them she just wanted to hurt TG. Mission accomplished.
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And a couple ended up on B anyway. That makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.

CR didn't want those girls from other clubs to play them she just wanted to hurt TG. Mission accomplished.

And a couple ended up on B anyway. That makes no sense.[/quote]

Makes sense, I would rather have my kid play on the YJ B team over the Black team, at this age anyway. Probably about the same level competitively and you get probably the best and most dedicated coach in all of girls lacrosse. Players will develope 10 fold over TG. No brainer really.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.

CR didn't want those girls from other clubs to play them she just wanted to hurt TG. Mission accomplished.

Makes sense, I would rather have my kid play on the YJ B team over the Black team, at this age anyway. Probably about the same level competitively and you get probably the best and most dedicated coach in all of girls lacrosse. Players will develope 10 fold over TG. No brainer really.

YJ B is that a B team. You can't develop what physically isn't there. Doesn't matter who coaches them they wont compete with TG. More than half the team still struggle with their sticks still. Have your girls hit the wall and don't forget to work on their off hand. Maybe CR can poach a few more from other clubs to replace your daughter and make the team better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.

CR didn't want those girls from other clubs to play them she just wanted to hurt TG. Mission accomplished.

Makes sense, I would rather have my kid play on the YJ B team over the Black team, at this age anyway. Probably about the same level competitively and you get probably the best and most dedicated coach in all of girls lacrosse. Players will develope 10 fold over TG. No brainer really.

YJ B is that a B team. You can't develop what physically isn't there. Doesn't matter who coaches them they wont compete with TG. More than half the team still struggle with their sticks still. Have your girls hit the wall and don't forget to work on their off hand. Maybe CR can poach a few more from other clubs to replace your daughter and make the team better.

A teams include YJ Blue, Hero green, sky Walkers blue, M&D Black, Stars and even Liberty Black. These teams trade wins and losses among themselves, rarely losing to any team outside that group. Honest question, has TG beaten any of these teams? I am not positive but I don't think so. So TG black is supposed to be the club's A team, it it is more on line with B level teams. I bet you YJ B would give TG a run for the money.

TG black playing ok they are definitely A level

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black playing ok they are definitely A level

Not A, Attack and D need some help for sure, but overall pretty good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ba

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.

YJ B is that a B team. You can't develop what physically isn't there. Doesn't matter who coaches them they wont compete with TG. More than half the team still struggle with their sticks still. Have your girls hit the wall and don't forget to work on their off hand. Maybe CR can poach a few more from other clubs to replace your daughter and make the team better.

A teams include YJ Blue, Hero green, sky Walkers blue, M&D Black, Stars and even Liberty Black. These teams trade wins and losses among themselves, rarely losing to any team outside that group. Honest question, has TG beaten any of these teams? I am not positive but I don't think so. So TG black is supposed to be the club's A team, it it is more on line with B level teams. I bet you YJ B would give TG a run for the money.

MD United beat Heros at Summer Genessis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ba

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.

YJ B is that a B team. You can't develop what physically isn't there. Doesn't matter who coaches them they wont compete with TG. More than half the team still struggle with their sticks still. Have your girls hit the wall and don't forget to work on their off hand. Maybe CR can poach a few more from other clubs to replace your daughter and make the team better.

A teams include YJ Blue, Hero green, sky Walkers blue, M&D Black, Stars and even Liberty Black. These teams trade wins and losses among themselves, rarely losing to any team outside that group. Honest question, has TG beaten any of these teams? I am not positive but I don't think so. So TG black is supposed to be the club's A team, it it is more on line with B level teams. I bet you YJ B would give TG a run for the money.

MD United beat Heros at Summer Genessis.

So. Heros 2021 has never won anything.....ever.

Other than a B tournament here or there that the other good teams didn't attend

MDU didn't beat Heros at Summer Genesis...you're just trying to get the heros parent all fired up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MDU didn't beat Heros at Summer Genesis...you're just trying to get the heros parent all fired up

Oops. My bad. It was at Laxin Out Loud. Had my weekends wrong. Beat them 5-4 in bracket championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MDU didn't beat Heros at Summer Genesis...you're just trying to get the heros parent all fired up

Oops. My bad. It was at Laxin Out Loud. Had my weekends wrong. Beat them 5-4 in bracket championship.

You are absolutely spot on. MD United is a powerhouse. I forget which team falls in the elite category, East or West? I know that at one point they flip-flopped roles, where the traditional A team became the B team and vice-versa, but I'm not sure if they have reverted back or not. West had a superior showing at LFTC, so they must be top dog.

East is top team

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

lol says her wi dad

First win against Hero's in like 7-8 games, they have one win since there big goalies moved to M&D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

lol says her wi dad

Lefty Attacker is from Nassau County.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

lol says her wi dad

Lefty Attacker is from Nassau County.

was referring to the middie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

really what town is she from? let me guess WI!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

agree, becareful you can go from playing alot to very little!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

agree, becareful you can go from playing alot to very little!

Truth! Some people struggle with concept that playing time is earned. Be prepared if you go from starter to second string.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

lol says her wi dad

Lefty Attacker is from Nassau County.

was referring to the middie

Original poster seems to reference the TG middies as a group. You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with this girl/family. You seem to take shots at WI when ever you get a chance. Did some of the WI girls take your daughter's spot? Does your wife (probably estranged if not ex) have a crush on one of the dads? Or maybe you have that crush and you feel left out. Whatever it is get over it, or man up and confront the WI people you hate and tell them to their faces they are [lacrosse]es. Otherwise creep back into the deep dark hole that your life must be.

Nothing to confront just chatting, you seem disgruntle get over yourself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

Wise would be in the eye of the beholder. Some would view being on a much better team, surrounded by much better players a wise move. But yes you are correct, a girl who would be a "go to" player and largely leaned on, very well could be mid to low level moving over. So it completely depends upon what your looking for and what will make your daughter happy. If she needs to be the center of the universe, probably not a wise move.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing to confront just chatting, you seem disgruntle get over yourself

You can add incoherent to the list as well, "just chatting" is what you call it, you are beyond disgruntled, you probably talk to yourself aloud in public as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

Wise would be in the eye of the beholder. Some would view being on a much better team, surrounded by much better players a wise move. But yes you are correct, a girl who would be a "go to" player and largely leaned on, very well could be mid to low level moving over. So it completely depends upon what your looking for and what will make your daughter happy. If she needs to be the center of the universe, probably not a wise move.

More than likely this is how it will go down; CR or one of her minions will tell you how great your daughter is and has exactly what YJ is looking for. You will be all excited and even come on here and spout how YJ only takes the best and has all the top talent maybe even bash your old club because you now feel superior. Things will go ok at first, you will buy all new YJ swag and signup for every extra offered. But soon into the season you realize your kid will never see any minutes in meaningful games and will ride the bench next to the other TG girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

Wise would be in the eye of the beholder. Some would view being on a much better team, surrounded by much better players a wise move. But yes you are correct, a girl who would be a "go to" player and largely leaned on, very well could be mid to low level moving over. So it completely depends upon what your looking for and what will make your daughter happy. If she needs to be the center of the universe, probably not a wise move.

Realistically, it probably depends more on what will make the parents happy. The stat counters want a team where their daughter is "it" and she can go to goal every single time she touches the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

agree, becareful you can go from playing alot to very little!

Truth! Some people struggle with concept that playing time is earned. Be prepared if you go from starter to second string.

What do you mean by earned? Technically they all start the season with the same opportunity. If a girl is showing up at practice both performance and attendance wise then it is an even playing field. It is the
difference between big fish/small pond at TG to many big fish at YJ. Doesn't YJ have a huge roster? Do they have favorites? Do they play to win? If so, it's not always the players that have "earned" playing time but the players who will get the win for them. Some girls are just more talented and they get the playing time. It depends what a family wants for their child but don't kid yourself and say it is all about playing time being earned. There are many more factors involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

Wise would be in the eye of the beholder. Some would view being on a much better team, surrounded by much better players a wise move. But yes you are correct, a girl who would be a "go to" player and largely leaned on, very well could be mid to low level moving over. So it completely depends upon what your looking for and what will make your daughter happy. If she needs to be the center of the universe, probably not a wise move.

More than likely this is how it will go down; CR or one of her minions will tell you how great your daughter is and has exactly what YJ is looking for. You will be all excited and even come on here and spout how YJ only takes the best and has all the top talent maybe even YJ bash your old club because you now feel superior. Things will go ok at first, you will buy all new YJ swag and signup for every extra offered. But soon into the season you realize your kid will never see any minutes in meaningful games and will ride the bench next to the other TG girls.

Supposedly the majority of the girls who left TG last year didn't expect A team from YJ and left because they were unhappy. Only 2 of them (a middie and the goalie) left for the A team. The goalie is now sharing the spot instead of being the prime goalie. Not sure about the middie. In my opinion, there are 2 reasons why they wanted to leave TG, either they were unhappy (which to me makes no sense, bc TG definitely plays favorites to their top players) or they just wanted to be on what many consider the top LI team. The end result of being recruited would have been the same on either team. The girls' talent would land them in the school of their choice without being on YJ. TG has the connections, caters to their stars and also loves the bragging rights of getting their girls recruited. As for the girls on the YJ B team now, hope they happier.

Wise would be in the eye of the beholder. Some would view being on a much better team, surrounded by much better players a wise move. But yes you are correct, a girl who would be a "go to" player and largely leaned on, very well could be mid to low level moving over. So it completely depends upon what your looking for and what will make your daughter happy. If she needs to be the center of the universe, probably not a wise move. [/quote]

More than likely this is how it will go down; CR or one of her minions will tell you how great your daughter is and has exactly what YJ is looking for. You will be all excited and even come on here and spout how YJ only takes the best and has all the top talent maybe even YJ bash your old club because you now feel superior. Things will go ok at first, you will buy all new YJ swag and signup for every extra offered. But soon into the season you realize your kid will never see any minutes in meaningful games and will ride the bench next to the other TG girls.
[/quote]
Supposedly the majority of the girls who left TG last year didn't expect A team from YJ and left because they were unhappy. Only 2 of them (a middie and the goalie) left for the A team. The goalie is now sharing the spot instead of being the prime goalie. Not sure about the middie. In my opinion, there are 2 reasons why they wanted to leave TG, either they were unhappy (which to me makes no sense, bc TG definitely plays favorites to their top players) or they just wanted to be on what many consider the top LI team. The end result of being recruited would have been the same on either team. The girls' talent would land them in the school of their choice without being on YJ. TG has the connections, caters to their stars and also loves the bragging rights of getting their girls recruited. As for the girls on the YJ B team now, hope they happier. [/quote]

Comment wasn't 2021 specific, CR will take TG players all day long and make all kinds of promises. Her only mission is to pluck talent from them. Majority of transfers don't find it better in fact some end up less happy.

Boy it's sucks to be a LI club parent ! Issues ! Thank god I moved many moons ago! My guess is a lot of good players get overlooked!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG black Midfield solid one lefty attacker others need help
but overall very talented

TG Black has one really good player that scored most of their goals against M&D. My guess is she will be on YJ next year as that seems to be the norm

Doesn't seem like a wise move to jump from TG to YJ. You go from being a prominent player with lots of minutes to perhaps a role player. What purpose does that serve?

Wise would be in the eye of the beholder. Some would view being on a much better team, surrounded by much better players a wise move. But yes you are correct, a girl who would be a "go to" player and largely leaned on, very well could be mid to low level moving over. So it completely depends upon what your looking for and what will make your daughter happy. If she needs to be the center of the universe, probably not a wise move.

Realistically, it probably depends more on what will make the parents happy. The stat counters want a team where their daughter is "it" and she can go to goal every single time she touches the ball.

I was thinking the opposite, that people want the bragging rights of saying their daughter plays for YJ. No one thinks about the fact that they might not see much playing time when they want to make a certain team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy it's sucks to be a LI club parent ! Issues ! Thank god I moved many moons ago! My guess is a lot of good players get overlooked!

It's not limited to just LI club parents. Maryland club parents also have issues to deal with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy it's sucks to be a LI club parent ! Issues ! Thank god I moved many moons ago! My guess is a lot of good players get overlooked!

Must be more sucky where you are to post this drivel at 1:48AM.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wise would be in the eye of the beholder. Some would view being on a much better team, surrounded by much better players a wise move. But yes you are correct, a girl who would be a "go to" player and largely leaned on, very well could be mid to low level moving over. So it completely depends upon what your looking for and what will make your daughter happy. If she needs to be the center of the universe, probably not a wise move.

More than likely this is how it will go down; CR or one of her minions will tell you how great your daughter is and has exactly what YJ is looking for. You will be all excited and even come on here and spout how YJ only takes the best and has all the top talent maybe even YJ bash your old club because you now feel superior. Things will go ok at first, you will buy all new YJ swag and signup for every extra offered. But soon into the season you realize your kid will never see any minutes in meaningful games and will ride the bench next to the other TG girls.
[/quote]
Supposedly the majority of the girls who left TG last year didn't expect A team from YJ and left because they were unhappy. Only 2 of them (a middie and the goalie) left for the A team. The goalie is now sharing the spot instead of being the prime goalie. Not sure about the middie. In my opinion, there are 2 reasons why they wanted to leave TG, either they were unhappy (which to me makes no sense, bc TG definitely plays favorites to their top players) or they just wanted to be on what many consider the top LI team. The end result of being recruited would have been the same on either team. The girls' talent would land them in the school of their choice without being on YJ. TG has the connections, caters to their stars and also loves the bragging rights of getting their girls recruited. As for the girls on the YJ B team now, hope they happier. [/quote]

Comment wasn't 2021 specific, CR will take TG players all day long and make all kinds of promises. Her only mission is to pluck talent from them. Majority of transfers don't find it better in fact some end up less happy.
[/quote]

Well, first off my daughter has an Adult coach on YJ who is teaching her lacrosse (year round) and not some college girl who shows up mid-May or beginning of June (some dad tries to help out during the winter with TG). Any contact from colleges get forwarded to us quickly. Didn't pay extra for all the winter indoor practice/training, so I don't know what these "extras" you keep whining about. If TG was such a great program, why are many bailing to join YJ? Bottom line is we left because of the lack of coaching, period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy it's sucks to be a LI club parent ! Issues ! Thank god I moved many moons ago! My guess is a lot of good players get overlooked!

It's not limited to just LI club parents. Maryland club parents also have issues to deal with.

It seems that Maryland parents have so many more options to choose from.

Fun to watch YJ vs SW yesterday. Overall a good game. Would say SW middies just flat out out ran YJ. Awesome goalie play by both sides. Rough call at the end for YJ but I think it was the right call. Would have liked to see Hereos vs YJ. To be continued...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fun to watch YJ vs SW yesterday. Overall a good game. Would say SW middies just flat out out ran YJ. Awesome goalie play by both sides. Rough call at the end for YJ but I think it was the right call. Would have liked to see Hereos vs YJ. To be continued...

Rough Call? It was 7-4 at the time and that goal made it 8-4. Game wasn't close. To be continued is correct as you can expect more of the same next weekend.

STEPS 2021 Blue 4-1 at G8, STEPS 2021 White 5-0.

Blue plays Heros Green this weekend. That should be a good game.

Heros will show up this weekend. Not in same category as SW but neither is anyone else right now. Gave the mnd game away. Tough weekend for the girls but no doubt they will be back. Little adversity never hurts anyone at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually will beat Salt City, will probably beat MD united, but Definitely wont beat TLC simply because their draw girl will eat up YJ's draw girl all day long. YJ may not touch the ball much in this game.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.
[/quote]

And the B team is better?[/quote]

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!! [/quote]

Not impressed today!
[/quote]

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.
[/quote]

And the B team is better?[/quote]

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.[/quote]

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!
[/quote]

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.
[/quote]

And the B team is better?[/quote]

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.[/quote]

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.
[/quote]
This is the B team that lost to Mass Elite 11-5 this weekend? Come on, man!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

STEPS 2021 Blue 4-1 at G8, STEPS 2021 White 5-0.

Only problem with boosting on that is A team played 2nd bracket and B team played 3rd Bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New options around the circle, don't discount YJ A so quick!!

Not impressed today!
[/quote]

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.
[/quote]

And the B team is better?[/quote]

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.[/quote]

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.
[/quote]

Nope, B can't win a game. Hasn't in three weeks, yet these are the girls Bertolone the "all knowing" thinks he should bring to Nationals? Laughable. An attack that doesn't like to pass and a defense that couldn't cover a bed with a blanket. This team needs to get blown up, it's not working and the parents are losing their minds. Lot of good options on C and even a couple on D, even a few Varsity and JV players on attack, D and middie (although Bert's middies are good, they just can't overcome the attack and D deficiencies). Open your eyes Bert, you're failing CR. Tryout should be interesting.......if there aren't changes, another long summer awaits Bert.

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.[/quote]

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.
[/quote]
This is the B team that lost to Mass Elite 11-5 this weekend? Come on, man![/quote]

True. C is closer to B than B is to A. A is in another stratosphere compared to this YJ B team. Not enough changes have been made and it is now costing Bert.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fun to watch YJ vs SW yesterday. Overall a good game. Would say SW middies just flat out out ran YJ. Awesome goalie play by both sides. Rough call at the end for YJ but I think it was the right call. Would have liked to see Hereos vs YJ. To be continued...

Agreed. Great game and YJ is a great team. I'm a SW parent and talked to several YJ parents (Hi Eric!). The discussions were genuinely friendly. Too bad we can't have that type of relationship with M&D.

I really liked the YJ's attack. As a unit, maybe the best I have seen. The difference in the game was the draw and our middies. Love watching the YJ goalie play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.
[/quote]
This is the B team that lost to Mass Elite 11-5 this weekend? Come on, man![/quote]

True. C is closer to B than B is to A. A is in another stratosphere compared to this YJ B team. Not enough changes have been made and it is now costing Bert.
[/quote]

It's all about f&f. It makes everyone feel good to say they are on YJB even if the team isn't very good.

It's funny with the the new age requirement it really doesn't affect M&D because they don't play in any US lacrosse sanctioned tournaments. Parents were panicking before good ole SR calmed their fears. M&D 2021 black would have lost 8 girls and M&D 2020 black would have lost 5.....

I don't think YJB is that bad and everyone does seem happy and Bert is one of the best Coaches out there. They do have a few girls that don't pass but that's only because passing options are limited and nobody wants to pass to girls who can't catch the ball. They have middies who have size and speed and can hang with all other A teams including YJA. Bert will straighten this out before Nationals plus a few from C/D will be added and the team will do just fine.

Very glad to be gone from this show! Same go to girls who can't get it done year after year who have already peaked. Better options out there people! CR takes the best girls from other clubs and parks them on the bench. Ask yourself are you better now? It will not change or get better, you have been warned.
[/quote]

And the B team is better?[/quote]

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.[/quote]

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.
[/quote]

Nope, B can't win a game. Hasn't in three weeks, yet these are the girls Bertolone the "all knowing" thinks he should bring to Nationals? Laughable. An attack that doesn't like to pass and a defense that couldn't cover a bed with a blanket. This team needs to get blown up, it's not working and the parents are losing their minds. Lot of good options on C and even a couple on D, even a few Varsity and JV players on attack, D and middie (although Bert's middies are good, they just can't overcome the attack and D deficiencies). Open your eyes Bert, you're failing CR. Tryout should be interesting.......if there aren't changes, another long summer awaits Bert.[/quote]

This....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think YJB is that bad and everyone does seem happy and Bert is one of the best Coaches out there. They do have a few girls that don't pass but that's only because passing options are limited and nobody wants to pass to girls who can't catch the ball. They have middies who have size and speed and can hang with all other A teams including YJA. Bert will straighten this out before Nationals plus a few from C/D will be added and the team will do just fine.

Not that bad!? One of the best coaches but haven't won a game. Girls that don't pass because others can't catch. Girls who have size and speed and can hang with yja but they dont pass or cannot catch! All this will be ok because bert is gong to take girls from c and d. Did I miss something?

YJ B first line can get it done. There is big drop off on second line. Bert will whip them into shape or replace them. As far as the attack passing, some do, some don't, like every other team. Defense needs help but Bert will fix that. His defense wins State Championships.
Playing in the higher divisions this year also changes things. Previous years, played in lower divisions.

The fact that recruiting is restricted this year and next also plays a part in the plan. These girls will get better and better with Bert and any of them that want to Play at a high level in college will. They'll be ready.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think YJB is that bad and everyone does seem happy and Bert is one of the best Coaches out there. They do have a few girls that don't pass but that's only because passing options are limited and nobody wants to pass to girls who can't catch the ball. They have middies who have size and speed and can hang with all other A teams including YJA. Bert will straighten this out before Nationals plus a few from C/D will be added and the team will do just fine.

So you are obviously a parent of a large midfielder on the B team who thinks your daughter belongs on the A team. You throw your daughters teammates under the bus and blame the teams struggles on the "other girls". You must be making a lot of friends on that team, lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think YJB is that bad and everyone does seem happy and Bert is one of the best Coaches out there. They do have a few girls that don't pass but that's only because passing options are limited and nobody wants to pass to girls who can't catch the ball. They have middies who have size and speed and can hang with all other A teams including YJA. Bert will straighten this out before Nationals plus a few from C/D will be added and the team will do just fine.

So you are obviously a parent of a large midfielder on the B team who thinks your daughter belongs on the A team. You throw your daughters teammates under the bus and blame the teams struggles on the "other girls". You must be making a lot of friends on that team, lol.

She couldn't hang with the A team, and friends are a second thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ B first line can get it done. There is big drop off on second line. Bert will whip them into shape or replace them. As far as the attack passing, some do, some don't, like every other team. Defense needs help but Bert will fix that. His defense wins State Championships.
Playing in the higher divisions this year also changes things. Previous years, played in lower divisions.

The fact that recruiting is restricted this year and next also plays a part in the plan. These girls will get better and better with Bert and any of them that want to Play at a high level in college will. They'll be ready.

They should swap line 1B with line 2A! A would be a real powerhouse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think YJB is that bad and everyone does seem happy and Bert is one of the best Coaches out there. They do have a few girls that don't pass but that's only because passing options are limited and nobody wants to pass to girls who can't catch the ball. They have middies who have size and speed and can hang with all other A teams including YJA. Bert will straighten this out before Nationals plus a few from C/D will be added and the team will do just fine.

Nope, he'll just keep posting on social media how much he "loves this team" as they continue to go 0-3-2 at tournaments....talk about your head in the sand. There are better options available but he hasn't opened his eyes for two years, just keeps running the same attack and defense out there. It's not working Bert and you're letting CR down. He added only one girl from C for the Nationals (very well deserved by the way), that's it. Other than that, he's taking his team down there. More of the same. All from the "great coach"........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think YJB is that bad and everyone does seem happy and Bert is one of the best Coaches out there. They do have a few girls that don't pass but that's only because passing options are limited and nobody wants to pass to girls who can't catch the ball. They have middies who have size and speed and can hang with all other A teams including YJA. Bert will straighten this out before Nationals plus a few from C/D will be added and the team will do just fine.

Nope, he'll just keep posting on social media how much he "loves this team" as they continue to go 0-3-2 at tournaments....talk about your head in the sand. There are better options available but he hasn't opened his eyes for two years, just keeps running the same attack and defense out there. It's not working Bert and you're letting CR down. He added only one girl from C for the Nationals (very well deserved by the way), that's it. Other than that, he's taking his team down there. More of the same. All from the "great coach"........

Well deserved? Lol... it's a F&F and a daddy coach's kid. Get real

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

Ditto. My kids first game, not one coach

Only 20 schools signed in and 18 of them are coaching the teams

Does this mean that there will not be coaches at the Nike event next week?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think YJB is that bad and everyone does seem happy and Bert is one of the best Coaches out there. They do have a few girls that don't pass but that's only because passing options are limited and nobody wants to pass to girls who can't catch the ball. They have middies who have size and speed and can hang with all other A teams including YJA. Bert will straighten this out before Nationals plus a few from C/D will be added and the team will do just fine.

Nope, he'll just keep posting on social media how much he "loves this team" as they continue to go 0-3-2 at tournaments....talk about your head in the sand. There are better options available but he hasn't opened his eyes for two years, just keeps running the same attack and defense out there. It's not working Bert and you're letting CR down. He added only one girl from C for the Nationals (very well deserved by the way), that's it. Other than that, he's taking his team down there. More of the same. All from the "great coach"........

Well deserved? Lol... it's a F&F and a daddy coach's kid. Get real

I hear you, but that particular kid can play. She's a force on both sides of the ball. My daughter plays with her on C.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does this mean that there will not be coaches at the Nike event next week?

Both UA and Nike are money grabs. I don't understand why parents keep taking the bait. Spend your time and cash at
Prospect days and specific colleges that your daughter may be interested in. My guess is that a large percentage of the girls attend Nike and UA because mommy and daddy told them to. Most
would rather be spending the remaining days of summer hanging with their friends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does this mean that there will not be coaches at the Nike event next week?

Both UA and Nike are money grabs. I don't understand why parents keep taking the bait. Spend your time and cash at
Prospect days and specific colleges that your daughter may be interested in. My guess is that a large percentage of the girls attend Nike and UA because mommy and daddy told them to. Most
would rather be spending the remaining days of summer hanging with their friends.

Not accurate. The Nike 120 elite was insanely good and that's why UA copied it. But seems to have failed. Just like Brine tried to copy the UA All America tournament and failed. I have been to just about every major recruiting tournament and the coaches at the Nike sidelines blew them all away by 5X. Maybe someday the UA 150 will gain steam, maybe not. Also worried what the Nike 120 will look like this year, they just completely changed age groups and most importantly they changed the date. It used to be a dead of the winter deal, the only game in town. Now it is smack in the middle of the million summer recruit tournaments. Will it still gain the coaches attention or are they burnt out by this point in the summer? Guess we will see. UA has the All America tournament, which is the highest level of lacrosse for these kids period, it is very successful, they do a great job with it, maybe they should leave this combine thing to Nike.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.
[/quote]
This is the B team that lost to Mass Elite 11-5 this weekend? Come on, man![/quote]

True. C is closer to B than B is to A. A is in another stratosphere compared to this YJ B team. Not enough changes have been made and it is now costing Bert.
[/quote]
They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's funny with the the new age requirement it really doesn't affect M&D because they don't play in any US lacrosse sanctioned tournaments. Parents were panicking before good ole SR calmed their fears. M&D 2021 black would have lost 8 girls and M&D 2020 black would have lost 5.....

What the heck are you talking about? The 21s have 2 girls with birthdays at the end of August. That's it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

The top kids, from the top Maryland clubs are there. I get it that the colleges aren't there but the talent showed up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

The top kids, from the top Maryland clubs are there. I get it that the colleges aren't there but the talent showed up

True some great lacrosse being played but sold as a recruiting event with no coaches..... look st the list on the website and ask to see who signed in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

The top kids, from the top Maryland clubs are there. I get it that the colleges aren't there but the talent showed up

True some great lacrosse being played but sold as a recruiting event with no coaches..... look st the list on the website and ask to see who signed in.

You hit the nail right on the head. Wonderful opportunity for the girls to continue playing after summer season has ended, but if you think UA and Nike120 are gonna help in the recruitment process, think again (especially for 2021s)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

The top kids, from the top Maryland clubs are there. I get it that the colleges aren't there but the talent showed up

True some great lacrosse being played but sold as a recruiting event with no coaches..... look st the list on the website and ask to see who signed in.

Question??????? Are you even there?? You quote the website?? I ask this because you are spouting incorrect information. There are a lot of coaches watching games. I am here. Have seen quite a few high D1 coaches actually sitting on the parents side along with D2 and D3. Many are walking around speaking with the coaches of the teams playing. Maybe some are keeping a lower profile while watching the 21's. Stop being a hater. if your gonna quote the website look at the rosters, many top players on them from a lot of the better teams. Is every top player here....of course not, but the level of play is really good and the experience for the girls is good.

Hit the nail on the head? My other kid got 4-5 looks from good schools at a
The Elite 120...That's where the process began to acceralate . If you don't have first hand knowledge best to pass on fake news comments

Funny how parents feel D2 and D3 is not good enough for their 13 year old. The D1 or bust parents crack me up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.

This is the B team that lost to Mass Elite 11-5 this weekend? Come on, man![/quote]

True. C is closer to B than B is to A. A is in another stratosphere compared to this YJ B team. Not enough changes have been made and it is now costing Bert.
[/quote]

They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH[/quote]

Agreed. His "favorites" are really doing an excellent job.....of wrecking the team. Attack doesn't pass, defense doesn't defend, too much to ask I guess? There have to be changes this fall, no? No wins in the last three tournaments, tons of goals given up.......changes better be made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hit the nail on the head? My other kid got 4-5 looks from good schools at a
The Elite 120...That's where the process began to acceralate . If you don't have first hand knowledge best to pass on fake news comments

The original poster was talking about the UA 150, not the Nike 120. Which are you talking about?

Hasn't the world changed? Why would a college coach care about a rising freshman at a summer showcase? The coaches can watch sophomores play for their high school in the spring or watch rising juniors play over the summer before they need to show any interest. Guessing which 14 year old, who is dominant during a summer showcase, will develop into a good college lacrosse player when they are 20 years old seems almost impossible...a coin flip at best. Freshman and sophomore showcases are going to become more about development than recruiting...which is a good thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hit the nail on the head? My other kid got 4-5 looks from good schools at a
The Elite 120...That's where the process began to acceralate . If you don't have first hand knowledge best to pass on fake news comments

The original poster was talking about the UA 150, not the Nike 120. Which are you talking about?

Elite 120 ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how parents feel D2 and D3 is not good enough for their 13 year old. The D1 or bust parents crack me up!

Some D3s are great. NESCACs and others are great academic schools and competitive lacrosse. D2, not so much. Academics are not good almost universally at D2 schools. Sorry. Now here comes the "elitist" crap. It's just a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hasn't the world changed? Why would a college coach care about a rising freshman at a summer showcase? The coaches can watch sophomores play for their high school in the spring or watch rising juniors play over the summer before they need to show any interest. Guessing which 14 year old, who is dominant during a summer showcase, will develop into a good college lacrosse player when they are 20 years old seems almost impossible...a coin flip at best. Freshman and sophomore showcases are going to become more about development than recruiting...which is a good thing.

Huh???? They are already there. They are watching games. Use your brain just a little...offers arent being made but hey, good lax is being played. Just a heads up...College Coaches don't go and watch high school games......they are coaching their own college teams.

Numbers of coaches watching 2021s during the summer is way down this year. Next year the number of coaches watching rising freshman in the summer will be down even further. Coaches are mainly at the 2019 games...maybe they stop and watch a little of a 2021 game if they are at a tournament, but they want to see 2019s this summer.

There are plenty of coaches at NY and New England state playoff games where the season ends after Memorial Day...and remember that most college coaches wrap up their season in early May. And if there are more uncommitted kids on the high school fields, there will be a lot of college coaches either watching live or on tape high school games. There are now a lot of live games streamed online. If I was a college coach, I would value seeing high school games more than summer games.

Before the early recruiting era, the Baltimore high schools played on Fridays and all of the local college coaches were at those games. During the early recruiting era it made little sense for a college coach to go to those games because the kids that they were recruiting were barely impact players since they were freshman and sophomores. It didn't make sense for a coach to watch a high school game where all of the recruitable players are already committed.

The world has changed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJB just a train wreck that can't get out of its own way at this point. With ball hogs, and stick skills non existent!.

B has some quality players and a couple that should be on A. They have the size and atletiscm A desperately needs to hang with the MD clubs.

This is the B team that lost to Mass Elite 11-5 this weekend? Come on, man!

True. C is closer to B than B is to A. A is in another stratosphere compared to this YJ B team. Not enough changes have been made and it is now costing Bert.
[/quote]

They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH[/quote]

Agreed. His "favorites" are really doing an excellent job.....of wrecking the team. Attack doesn't pass, defense doesn't defend, too much to ask I guess? There have to be changes this fall, no? No wins in the last three tournaments, tons of goals given up.......changes better be made.
[/quote]

There will be no changes, except for the attack and midi that move up.

They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH[/quote]

Agreed. His "favorites" are really doing an excellent job.....of wrecking the team. Attack doesn't pass, defense doesn't defend, too much to ask I guess? There have to be changes this fall, no? No wins in the last three tournaments, tons of goals given up.......changes better be made.
[/quote]

There will be no changes, except for the attack and midi that move up.[/quote]

And (1) D. CR will finally realize after seeing this team get blown out by SW over and over that they need some bigger stronger girls to compete with MD teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH

Agreed. His "favorites" are really doing an excellent job.....of wrecking the team. Attack doesn't pass, defense doesn't defend, too much to ask I guess? There have to be changes this fall, no? No wins in the last three tournaments, tons of goals given up.......changes better be made.
[/quote]

There will be no changes, except for the attack and midi that move up.[/quote]

And (1) D. CR will finally realize after seeing this team get blown out by SW over and over that they need some bigger stronger girls to compete with MD teams.
[/quote]

This is comical, here we go again, it must be try out time again as same joker keeps preaching how team needs his big strong second team daughter, lol. This was non stop last year going into try outs. THere is one large strong kid out there that could make this team, and she's not on B team, she is from another club entirely.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH

Agreed. His "favorites" are really doing an excellent job.....of wrecking the team. Attack doesn't pass, defense doesn't defend, too much to ask I guess? There have to be changes this fall, no? No wins in the last three tournaments, tons of goals given up.......changes better be made.

There will be no changes, except for the attack and midi that move up.[/quote]

And (1) D. CR will finally realize after seeing this team get blown out by SW over and over that they need some bigger stronger girls to compete with MD teams.
[/quote]

This is comical, here we go again, it must be try out time again as same joker keeps preaching how team needs his big strong second team daughter, lol. This was non stop last year going into try outs. THere is one large strong kid out there that could make this team, and she's not on B team, she is from another club entirely. [/quote]

I thinks it comical that you are back here telling us your daughter is the only big strong girl that can make the team and she's not a YJ!
Did she get overlooked last tyroot or a TG holdout?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH

Agreed. His "favorites" are really doing an excellent job.....of wrecking the team. Attack doesn't pass, defense doesn't defend, too much to ask I guess? There have to be changes this fall, no? No wins in the last three tournaments, tons of goals given up.......changes better be made.

There will be no changes, except for the attack and midi that move up.

And (1) D. CR will finally realize after seeing this team get blown out by SW over and over that they need some bigger stronger girls to compete with MD teams.
[/quote]

This is comical, here we go again, it must be try out time again as same joker keeps preaching how team needs his big strong second team daughter, lol. This was non stop last year going into try outs. THere is one large strong kid out there that could make this team, and she's not on B team, she is from another club entirely. [/quote]

I thinks it comical that you are back here telling us your daughter is the only big strong girl that can make the team and she's not a YJ!
Did she get overlooked last tyroot or a TG holdout?
[/quote]

LOL. The only big strong girls with speed that I've seen which don't play for YJ, live in Maryland and half of them have their learner's permit.

Who got blown out by SW? Also hope the girl is not a lefty will never see the field, one of the best attack players on Long Island is on that team and is a lefty!

[quote=Anonymous]Who got blown out by SW? Also hope the girl is not a lefty will never see the field, one of the best attack players on Long Island is on that team and is a lefty!

I think you are talking about the A team attack lefty, she's phenomenal. You can't possible be referring to anyone on B, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH

Agreed. His "favorites" are really doing an excellent job.....of wrecking the team. Attack doesn't pass, defense doesn't defend, too much to ask I guess? There have to be changes this fall, no? No wins in the last three tournaments, tons of goals given up.......changes better be made.

There will be no changes, except for the attack and midi that move up.[/quote]

And (1) D. CR will finally realize after seeing this team get blown out by SW over and over that they need some bigger stronger girls to compete with MD teams.
[/quote]

This is comical, here we go again, it must be try out time again as same joker keeps preaching how team needs his big strong second team daughter, lol. This was non stop last year going into try outs. THere is one large strong kid out there that could make this team, and she's not on B team, she is from another club entirely. [/quote]

The poster was talking about C team girls that are getting moved up to B. Nobody mentioned anyone getting moved up to A, relax little girl defender dad. She'll stay on A and keep getting outmuscled by the 16 year olds we play against in MD. Now from C to B should at least be one of their attack, two mids and two D (these are girls that I know of). Those are the changes that, at the very least, need to be made to Bert's team. Probably more, but I doubt he'll be that aggressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's funny with the the new age requirement it really doesn't affect M&D because they don't play in any US lacrosse sanctioned tournaments. Parents were panicking before good ole SR calmed their fears. M&D 2021 black would have lost 8 girls and M&D 2020 black would have lost 5.....

What the heck are you talking about? The 21s have 2 girls with birthdays at the end of August. That's it.

Whatever you need to tell yourself at night so you can sleep..... They will be getting their driving permits as freshman when most sophomores are. Don't insult me because I have friends who are on that team so just slow your roll......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

The top kids, from the top Maryland clubs are there. I get it that the colleges aren't there but the talent showed up

Right the talent showed up for $550.00 each for Mr. M&D. It's a joke people. Wake up! Another $165,000.00 into his pocket!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They like to think they are in the same class as A because they had a few practices side by side at KK, and they scrimmaged a few times. Worlds apart, zero chemistry and they will never get there, especially since his favorites are the ones who hurt that team. But they will all tell you how "close" our scrimmages were. Not even on the same planet. SMH

Agreed. His "favorites" are really doing an excellent job.....of wrecking the team. Attack doesn't pass, defense doesn't defend, too much to ask I guess? There have to be changes this fall, no? No wins in the last three tournaments, tons of goals given up.......changes better be made.

There will be no changes, except for the attack and midi that move up.

And (1) D. CR will finally realize after seeing this team get blown out by SW over and over that they need some bigger stronger girls to compete with MD teams.
[/quote]

This is comical, here we go again, it must be try out time again as same joker keeps preaching how team needs his big strong second team daughter, lol. This was non stop last year going into try outs. THere is one large strong kid out there that could make this team, and she's not on B team, she is from another club entirely. [/quote]

The poster was talking about C team girls that are getting moved up to B. Nobody mentioned anyone getting moved up to A, relax little girl defender dad. She'll stay on A and keep getting outmuscled by the 16 year olds we play against in MD. Now from C to B should at least be one of their attack, two mids and two D (these are girls that I know of). Those are the changes that, at the very least, need to be made to Bert's team. Probably more, but I doubt he'll be that aggressive.[/quote]

No, talking about the B girls moving to A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's funny with the the new age requirement it really doesn't affect M&D because they don't play in any US lacrosse sanctioned tournaments. Parents were panicking before good ole SR calmed their fears. M&D 2021 black would have lost 8 girls and M&D 2020 black would have lost 5.....

What the heck are you talking about? The 21s have 2 girls with birthdays at the end of August. That's it.

Whatever you need to tell yourself at night so you can sleep..... They will be getting their driving permits as freshman when most sophomores are. Don't insult me because I have friends who are on that team so just slow your roll......

Slow my roll?? I sleep fine. My daughter and all but a couple girls on that team have birthdays after 9/1/2002.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who got blown out by SW? Also hope the girl is not a lefty will never see the field, one of the best attack players on Long Island is on that team and is a lefty!

One of the best players in her age group at best , maybe.

Stop it, so your not from yj b thinking your kid should be on a, ok you play for another organizations a team! Think you just got caught!

The poster was talking about C team girls that are getting moved up to B. Nobody mentioned anyone getting moved up to A, relax little girl defender dad. She'll stay on A and keep getting outmuscled by the 16 year olds we play against in MD. Now from C to B should at least be one of their attack, two mids and two D (these are girls that I know of). Those are the changes that, at the very least, need to be made to Bert's team. Probably more, but I doubt he'll be that aggressive.[/quote]

No, talking about the B girls moving to A.[/quote]

Agreed! YJ B moving to A at Igloo, Icon, Wave and Elevate. 100% spot on. Can we move on now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who got blown out by SW? Also hope the girl is not a lefty will never see the field, one of the best attack players on Long Island is on that team and is a lefty!

One of the best players in her age group at best , maybe.

Maybe s right! Kid hasn't been able to hit the side of a barn much less score a goal. Amazing what happens when other kids catch up and some seem to peak.

Looks like all of the 2021 teams from LI took some lumps down in md this weekend.

Yup. Competition was great and many but not all had to take a tie for the rain out yesterday. That screwed some teams up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup. Competition was great and many but not all had to take a tie for the rain out yesterday. That screwed some teams up

Wouldn't change the playoff picture for any of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup. Competition was great and many but not all had to take a tie for the rain out yesterday. That screwed some teams up

Wouldn't change the playoff picture for any of them.

Wrong, but irrelevant at this point.

Yellow Jackets got a bum draw. Only played a half against Skywalkers and was clearly among the best in that division. Should have been in the playoffs. Would have been great to see them up against M&D in the semifinals. YJ are a really good team. Looking forward to seeing them again in the Fall.

Good luck everyone with tryouts. Lots of pressure on these girls to stick on the top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yellow Jackets got a bum draw. Only played a half against Skywalkers and was clearly among the best in that division. Should have been in the playoffs. Would have been great to see them up against M&D in the semifinals. YJ are a really good team. Looking forward to seeing them again in the Fall.

Good luck everyone with tryouts. Lots of pressure on these girls to stick on the top teams.

As the backnroom deals begin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster was talking about C team girls that are getting moved up to B. Nobody mentioned anyone getting moved up to A, relax little girl defender dad. She'll stay on A and keep getting outmuscled by the 16 year olds we play against in MD. Now from C to B should at least be one of their attack, two mids and two D (these are girls that I know of). Those are the changes that, at the very least, need to be made to Bert's team. Probably more, but I doubt he'll be that aggressive.

No, talking about the B girls moving to A.[/quote]

Agreed! YJ B moving to A at Igloo, Icon, Wave and Elevate. 100% spot on. Can we move on now?
[/quote]

keep telling yourself that. three are going up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yellow Jackets got a bum draw. Only played a half against Skywalkers and was clearly among the best in that division. Should have been in the playoffs. Would have been great to see them up against M&D in the semifinals. YJ are a really good team. Looking forward to seeing them again in the Fall.

Good luck everyone with tryouts. Lots of pressure on these girls to stick on the top teams.

Skywalkers would of beat them by a wider margin had the game not been called. The gap between MD and LI is widening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster was talking about C team girls that are getting moved up to B. Nobody mentioned anyone getting moved up to A, relax little girl defender dad. She'll stay on A and keep getting outmuscled by the 16 year olds we play against in MD. Now from C to B should at least be one of their attack, two mids and two D (these are girls that I know of). Those are the changes that, at the very least, need to be made to Bert's team. Probably more, but I doubt he'll be that aggressive.

No, talking about the B girls moving to A.

Agreed! YJ B moving to A at Igloo, Icon, Wave and Elevate. 100% spot on. Can we move on now?
[/quote]

keep telling yourself that. three are going up.[/quote]

Funny but we heard that last year too....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yellow Jackets got a bum draw. Only played a half against Skywalkers and was clearly among the best in that division. Should have been in the playoffs. Would have been great to see them up against M&D in the semifinals. YJ are a really good team. Looking forward to seeing them again in the Fall.

Good luck everyone with tryouts. Lots of pressure on these girls to stick on the top teams.

Skywalkers would of beat them by a wider margin had the game not been called. The gap between MD and LI is widening.

Skywalkers is the standard at this juncture. YJ did not lose to any other MD team they played this summer. You have one dominate team and perhaps a second when M&D gets healthy. I would pump the brakes on that speaking for the entire state...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yellow Jackets got a bum draw. Only played a half against Skywalkers and was clearly among the best in that division. Should have been in the playoffs. Would have been great to see them up against M&D in the semifinals. YJ are a really good team. Looking forward to seeing them again in the Fall.

Good luck everyone with tryouts. Lots of pressure on these girls to stick on the top teams.

Skywalkers would of beat them by a wider margin had the game not been called. The gap between MD and LI is widening.

Skywalkers is the standard at this juncture. YJ did not lose to any other MD team they played this summer. You have one dominate team and perhaps a second when M&D gets healthy. I would pump the brakes on that speaking for the entire state...

YJ lost to Liberty, did Liberty play any of these top MD teams? I keep seeing YJ in the top 3 and everyone else? Was that lose a fluke? Would have to say as far as LI goes, It ayahuasca Li earth and nobody remotely close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yellow Jackets got a bum draw. Only played a half against Skywalkers and was clearly among the best in that division. Should have been in the playoffs. Would have been great to see them up against M&D in the semifinals. YJ are a really good team. Looking forward to seeing them again in the Fall.

Good luck everyone with tryouts. Lots of pressure on these girls to stick on the top teams.

Skywalkers would of beat them by a wider margin had the game not been called. The gap between MD and LI is widening.

Skywalkers is the standard at this juncture. YJ did not lose to any other MD team they played this summer. You have one dominate team and perhaps a second when M&D gets healthy. I would pump the brakes on that speaking for the entire state...

YJ lost to Liberty, did Liberty play any of these top MD teams? I keep seeing YJ in the top 3 and everyone else? Was that lose a fluke? Would have to say as far as LI goes, It ayahuasca Li earth and nobody remotely close.

Meant YJ, Liberty and everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

The top kids, from the top Maryland clubs are there. I get it that the colleges aren't there but the talent showed up

So my response to this a few days ago was posted but now magically it is gone. So I will rephrase it. It's a money grab wake up people!! Top talent ( ok whatever) showed up for $550.00 each. Do you really think that 13 girls from one team magically "were selected"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't waste your money on UA 150 next year the only coaches here are the D2&3 coaches that are coaching the teams.

What did people expect, there was no tryout just submit your kids bio! None of the top tier kids even bothered with this.

The top kids, from the top Maryland clubs are there. I get it that the colleges aren't there but the talent showed up

So my response to this a few days ago was posted but now magically it is gone. So I will rephrase it. It's a money grab wake up people!! Top talent ( ok whatever) showed up for $550.00 each. Do you really think that 13 girls from one team magically "were selected"?

I am familiar with some of the girls selected for both UA and Nike120 and you wouldn't necessarily call them all "top talent". Some are, some aren't.

If your from LI and don't play for YJ, how does one get an invite for the NIke 120? Does CR control this too?

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Fear the Bee! Your girls are going to be shell shocked when you lose to both the B and A teams!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

Liberty not as classy since they started letting in the riffraff.

FYI. The nationals aren't truly a national tournament since none of the top md teams are there but enjoy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI. The nationals aren't truly a national tournament since none of the top md teams are there but enjoy!

It's 14U so most of the top md 2021 teams would be ineligible anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI. The nationals aren't truly a national tournament since none of the top md teams are there but enjoy!

That birth certificate thing is annoying, huh?

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Show up and put it to rest...Lets hear your excuses...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Please , just look at the UA booklet from a few years back over half the Baltimore and D.C. players were hold backs . Your a clown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Girls absolutely do play the holdback game. You can really see it in the 5th, 6th and 7th grade age groups. The difference in physical development is obvious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Show up and put it to rest...Lets hear your excuses...

We kick your [lacrosse] all summer and fall. You need one more reminder to put it to rest? YJ 2021 has won exactly 1 tournament ever that was attended by the top MD clubs. Zero for any other LI team. M&D and SW have won every tournament except that one. Enjoy posting national champs on the website every year. It's the only chance you get to win anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Show up and put it to rest...Lets hear your excuses...

That's not happening. The club season is over for the Maryland girls. Between the beaches and drivers ed starting up - they need this time before school starts up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Show up and put it to rest...Lets hear your excuses...

That's not happening. The club season is over for the Maryland girls. Between the beaches and drivers ed starting up - they need this time before school starts up.

Drivers ED for U14 layers , okay.Forgot the 2021 in Maryland are 16.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Show up and put it to rest...Lets hear your excuses...

That's not happening. The club season is over for the Maryland girls. Between the beaches and drivers ed starting up - they need this time before school starts up.

Drivers ED for U14 layers , okay.Forgot the 2021 in Maryland are 16.

Listen, the reason MD doesn't go is because it's a U14 tourney, plain and simple. You have to show a birth cert. So come up with whatever BS you want. Seen it in every sport; Football, Hockey. Once you have to prove ages, team's rosters change, or they don't go to the tourney, and a tool like you comes out with the same rolodex of excuses of why they don't go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the LI excuse for never beating md teams but if you look closer, the girls don't play the holdback game. But it works to explain the gap in talent. So pathetic. Enjoy the rec tourney.

Show up and put it to rest...Lets hear your excuses...

That's not happening. The club season is over for the Maryland girls. Between the beaches and drivers ed starting up - they need this time before school starts up.

Drivers ED for U14 layers , okay.Forgot the 2021 in Maryland are 16.

Listen, the reason MD doesn't go is because it's a U14 tourney, plain and simple. You have to show a birth cert. So come up with whatever BS you want. Seen it in every sport; Football, Hockey. Once you have to prove ages, team's rosters change, or they don't go to the tourney, and a tool like you comes out with the same rolodex of excuses of why they don't go.

True, when it was out west and the midwest, it was the money excuse...then you had the back to back in richmond excuse...now its drive ed and want to enjoy beach...these are the top kids in the grade, they play 12 months a year...1 more week is going to kill them? stop

Heard something about older YJ team getting disqualified last weekend using players from another YJ team. Looks like CR finely got caught

YJ waste of time if you aren't their "favorites" Why are you people paying all that $$$ to sit on the bench? Bert only plays his MS girls, CR the times are changing YJ!!! Plenty of other options and opportunity on LI if the parents would open their eyes...and yes if you are a good player you will get noticed - you wont get noticed on the bench at YJ so what are you really doing???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard something about older YJ team getting disqualified last weekend using players from another YJ team. Looks like CR finely got caught

Relax Francis....this was 2018 which was their last tournament ever...the second team had to use of couple of the third team players in order to even field a team. What happens all summer is so many girls do not attend every tournament. Most are committed so they do not show up. I am sure they expected to have enough girls to fill a lineup but many did not show. Should they forfeit and go home after that hideous drive or borrow from a team below them so the games can go on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ waste of time if you aren't their "favorites" Why are you people paying all that $$$ to sit on the bench? Bert only plays his MS girls, CR the times are changing YJ!!! Plenty of other options and opportunity on LI if the parents would open their eyes...and yes if you are a good player you will get noticed - you wont get noticed on the bench at YJ so what are you really doing???

Sad if true because the rest of the LI teams aren't very good. YJ doesn't win anything either. Maybe you guys should all combine into one team or something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ waste of time if you aren't their "favorites" Why are you people paying all that $$$ to sit on the bench? Bert only plays his MS girls, CR the times are changing YJ!!! Plenty of other options and opportunity on LI if the parents would open their eyes...and yes if you are a good player you will get noticed - you wont get noticed on the bench at YJ so what are you really doing???

How true. There are plenty of options on LI..........The open roster spots that were held by the girls that left that team to go to YJ.

I would be thrilled driving and paying for hotels just to prove my kids team is the best rec team in the country!

Why is Bert favoring his MS girls any different than CR favoring her NP girls, or Thorn favoring her ESM girls? Some of you sound surprised this is happening. It's not just a YJ thing. Every travel club has a similar situation. Oh and parents, you might as well just get used to it, because it gets worse and worse as your daughter gets older.

Lol, drivers-ed starting up for 2021. Look I agree that eventually the age difference isn't going to matter once the girls get to high school, you can't complain because you have to play against older players. But I do find it funny that my daughter who is an M&D 2020 and just turned 15 iwill be going to drivers ed with girls who are 2021's. Girls do hold back or do the pre-k as a 5 year old at private schools.

TG 21 Purple has one of the best coaches on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG 21 Purple has one of the best coaches on LI.

best in the US.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG 21 Purple has one of the best coaches on LI.

best in the US.

Can't believe he has turned down so many Div. 1 college coaching opportunities. LOL, the guy isn't anything special, just knows how to get out of his varsity girl's way and lets them win, less is more attitude. Gifted with a great youth program/and dedicated parents who pay all kinds of money for travel and training. He used to downplay travel and say it was unnecessary before he got into bed with the Smith's, because his ego hated hearing that he never developed any of the talent that played for him (but it was and still is the truth). His parents do all the leg work for him by the time the get to WI HS he has more talent than he knows what to do with, many girls typically plateau or skills decline under his tutelage, because he lacks the ability to manage and effectively train so much talent. Typical for many strong programs, just look at the youth program in a town and you can predict the success of the HS. You want to show you're a talented coach, take over Brentwood or Central Islip and win even half you games, a person who could do that is ten times the coach of a county or state championship coach at West Islip, Mt. Sinai, Northport, Ward Melville, BBP, etc.

His overall success will start to decline now that he is in bed with Top Guns, and YJ will be discouraged.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Bert favoring his MS girls any different than CR favoring her NP girls, or Thorn favoring her ESM girls? Some of you sound surprised this is happening. It's not just a YJ thing. Every travel club has a similar situation. Oh and parents, you might as well just get used to it, because it gets worse and worse as your daughter gets older.

You people are so damn negative and sound like a bunch of losers. Tell your kid to work hard and be great then you won't have to worry regardless of what town you are from. under your view, its always someone else's fault.

Is it true there are very few coaches at the Elite 120 watching the 2021s this year? If so, that is a shame as this event used to be flooded with coaches from the top program. Moving it from the winter to the summer and with the change in recruiting rules this event may be negatively impacted (but not sure).

Dads unhappy that daughter isn't big gun on her travel team
Lmao

His success will not decline I know him he puts a ton of hours in and he is for kids you are a moron who wanted to be a coach but couldn't do it lmao

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dads unhappy that daughter isn't big gun on her travel team
Lmao

People that use this website and STILL don't know how to hit the "Quote" button so we know what they're talking about, LMAO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true there are very few coaches at the Elite 120 watching the 2021s this year? If so, that is a shame as this event used to be flooded with coaches from the top program. Moving it from the winter to the summer and with the change in recruiting rules this event may be negatively impacted (but not sure).

The new recruiting rules have most certainly put a damper on the number of coaches attending. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to justify the money they spent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

His success will not decline I know him he puts a ton of hours in and he is for kids you are a moron who wanted to be a coach but couldn't do it lmao

i think it's more like he's a moron who thought his kid should have been on varsity. But in reality she has zero lax iq

Another west islip hater.. blogging from his cubical at work! You wise man... you must be a coach that favors the girls on his travel team ...NOT!!!!! Hahah you are another "non"! You are the guy on the fence every practice distracting my kid from being coached by their coach. Parents like you ruin programs let me repeat parents like you ruin programs! Keep blaming the coach and the other players I am sure that's working for your kid. #fenceguy

Many coaches do not go and parents drink the cool aid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many coaches do not go and parents drink the cool aid

Go where??? Please use the quote button

Tournaments

FENCE GUY THAT IS HILARIOUS MY DAUGHTER IS ON 2020 PURPLE ND I SIT IN PARKING LOT CAUSE I LIVE FAR BUT I SEE FENCE GUYS AND WHO KISSING BS BUTT

Last year the 2021 purple team barely won a game... this year they lost one game... they have been in playoffs every tournament same group of girls playing playing same teams. Coaching????? Nah must be the devoted parents that get their talented kids to practice. Lmao you sound like a fool!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FENCE GUY THAT IS HILARIOUS MY DAUGHTER IS ON 2020 PURPLE ND I SIT IN PARKING LOT CAUSE I LIVE FAR BUT I SEE FENCE GUYS AND WHO KISSING BS BUTT

Ouch ... I think this guys needs to stop drinking and posting at 4:00 am..Could still be in parking lot slouched over the wheel

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last year the 2021 purple team barely won a game... this year they lost one game... they have been in playoffs every tournament same group of girls playing playing same teams. Coaching????? Nah must be the devoted parents that get their talented kids to practice. Lmao you sound like a fool!

Either that or they play a bunch of crappy teams in a bunch of crappy tournaments. But that couldn't be it. Must be the coaching.

Lol! Yup it's a huge conspiracy.. they must have manipulated all of the travel teams to play crappy teams. Keep coaching your kid and teaching her the all important how not to be a "team" player. Can't reason with crazy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last year the 2021 purple team barely won a game... this year they lost one game... they have been in playoffs every tournament same group of girls playing playing same teams. Coaching????? Nah must be the devoted parents that get their talented kids to practice. Lmao you sound like a fool!

Either that or they play a bunch of crappy teams in a bunch of crappy tournaments. But that couldn't be it. Must be the coaching.

it's a combination of things, good players who genuinely like and respect each other, who move the ball well, who want to not only win but have fun! they laugh and smile even in their losses. They love the game!they love the coaches! they truly want to keep learning and get better. They aren't looking to secretly 'verbal' as freshman. They don't pick and choose who they pass to. The don't blame each other when someone messes up. The work like a team and it shows. As for the teams they play. they are the B team, as so many of you like to remind us. they play in the B brackets. Win or lose this weekend. Watch how the teams play, look who's actually having a good time. And at 13/14 if they aren't having fun? why bother???????

Wow well said
I wish my daughter played on that team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last year the 2021 purple team barely won a game... this year they lost one game... they have been in playoffs every tournament same group of girls playing playing same teams. Coaching????? Nah must be the devoted parents that get their talented kids to practice. Lmao you sound like a fool!

Either that or they play a bunch of crappy teams in a bunch of crappy tournaments. But that couldn't be it. Must be the coaching.

it's a combination of things, good players who genuinely like and respect each other, who move the ball well, who want to not only win but have fun! they laugh and smile even in their losses. They love the game!they love the coaches! they truly want to keep learning and get better. They aren't looking to secretly 'verbal' as freshman. They don't pick and choose who they pass to. The don't blame each other when someone messes up. The work like a team and it shows. As for the teams they play. they are the B team, as so many of you like to remind us. they play in the B brackets. Win or lose this weekend. Watch how the teams play, look who's actually having a good time. And at 13/14 if they aren't having fun? why bother???????

You make WAAAAAAAYYYYYY too much sense, I don't know why you post here. However, be prepared to be verbally abused by the "go to goal, win at all costs" parents. They have nothing better to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last year the 2021 purple team barely won a game... this year they lost one game... they have been in playoffs every tournament same group of girls playing playing same teams. Coaching????? Nah must be the devoted parents that get their talented kids to practice. Lmao you sound like a fool!

Either that or they play a bunch of crappy teams in a bunch of crappy tournaments. But that couldn't be it. Must be the coaching.

it's a combination of things, good players who genuinely like and respect each other, who move the ball well, who want to not only win but have fun! they laugh and smile even in their losses. They love the game!they love the coaches! they truly want to keep learning and get better. They aren't looking to secretly 'verbal' as freshman. They don't pick and choose who they pass to. The don't blame each other when someone messes up. The work like a team and it shows. As for the teams they play. they are the B team, as so many of you like to remind us. they play in the B brackets. Win or lose this weekend. Watch how the teams play, look who's actually having a good time. And at 13/14 if they aren't having fun? why bother???????

Imagine that! Liking your teammates, respecting your coaches, learning and improving your game, while winning. Hmmmm, sounds pretty awesome to me.

As for the rest of the morons that posted otherwise... enjoy the rest of your season and don't forget to teach your daughter to never, ever, pass the ball. Wheels wheels wheels and go straight to the net!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Well when it's the only tournament you have a chance to win every year(since the MD teams aren't there) you better be damn sure you win it. Have to have something to put on the website to rationalize the 3k all these families pay each year to wear the bee.

The U14 teams are an absolute joke with the exception of YJ, TG and Liberty. All summer long there has been 40-50 teams in the better tournaments in just in the 2021 divisions, and those are the 16 they pull for a "us championship", completely laughable. If you look at the U13 there is a Town Team entered. Nothing against them at all and I hope they win it, but doesn't that show you the hilarity of this. What a waste of time and money, and the sad part is there are girls who will travel down there from the LI clubs and play very limited time due the the enormity of their rosters. Sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Well when it's the only tournament you have a chance to win every year(since the MD teams aren't there) you better be damn sure you win it. Have to have something to put on the website to rationalize the 3k all these families pay each year to wear the bee.

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Where is the roster posted?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Well when it's the only tournament you have a chance to win every year(since the MD teams aren't there) you better be damn sure you win it. Have to have something to put on the website to rationalize the 3k all these families pay each year to wear the bee.

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.

Liberty holds tryouts for the team that plays in nationals. They look to do the same, they just dont have the options.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Well when it's the only tournament you have a chance to win every year(since the MD teams aren't there) you better be damn sure you win it. Have to have something to put on the website to rationalize the 3k all these families pay each year to wear the bee. [/quote]

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.
[/quote]
Didn't think they were the best team on LI anymore. Thought they lost that when they lost to Liberty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Well when it's the only tournament you have a chance to win every year(since the MD teams aren't there) you better be damn sure you win it. Have to have something to put on the website to rationalize the 3k all these families pay each year to wear the bee.

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.
[/quote]
Didn't think they were the best team on LI anymore. Thought they lost that when they lost to Liberty. [/quote]

I know this is a novel concept, particularly in the south, but this tournament is age based, not grade based. Age eligible kids within the program are allowed to play. I would like to see how many teams from the south could actually produce class of 2020 athletes that can qualify under the US Lacrosse age requirements of being born after 9/1/2002, they are all in 2021 already...For the MD folks, you only have one team that beat YJ 2021 this summer, I think the entire state should stop taking credit for just one team...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Well when it's the only tournament you have a chance to win every year(since the MD teams aren't there) you better be damn sure you win it. Have to have something to put on the website to rationalize the 3k all these families pay each year to wear the bee.

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.

So instead of saying good for these kids who have played their whole lives as essentially the youngest players on the field against the work the system hold backs who are many times more than a year older you bash them. Its a U14 tournament that requires proof of age, a way to level the playing field against the many hold backs and you bash the system. Many including myself are tired of the super star player who gets so much attention when if they were playing on age would just merely be good. I wish there were more age based tournaments .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Well when it's the only tournament you have a chance to win every year(since the MD teams aren't there) you better be damn sure you win it. Have to have something to put on the website to rationalize the 3k all these families pay each year to wear the bee.

We wish the MD teams would come down, with all girls finally slotted in their birth year. But we know why they can't.....they'd be pulling girls from their 2023 teams to be playing in the U14s.

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.
[/quote]

So instead of saying good for these kids who have played their whole lives as essentially the youngest players on the field against the work the system hold backs who are many times more than a year older you bash them. Its a U14 tournament that requires proof of age, a way to level the playing field against the many hold backs and you bash the system. Many including myself are tired of the super star player who gets so much attention when if they were playing on age would just merely be good. I wish there were more age based tournaments .[/quote]

Hey dopey nobody bashed these kids! One of them is a big-time commit so do you really think she needs to go to this waste of a tournament and play down to show how great she is? This is all about yellow jackets not losing to Liberty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be a fitting conclusion to the season when Liberty Black beats YJ Blue at Nationals. This way they will start the season and end the season beating their biggest rival. Ought to make for a nice ride home. Our girls can't wait. Dont forget to pack the tissues I'm sure there will be plenty of tears flowing !

Who are you? Certainly not a Liberty parent, they are too classy for this forum, as was stated on the YJ thread after the first win back in June. Very classy indeed. Hmmm... me thinks you are the same person...stirring the pot and probably doesn't have a daughter on either team.

Plus the National teams are separate from the A teams, there are tryouts, so it is not the same mix of girls for any of the teams.

I didn't know what you meant by separate from A teams but see YJ 2021 blue has two 2020 players from Curcio team listed on the U14 roster? Would the Mattituck player be the new option around the circle someone mentioned a while back and to guarantee YJ brings home the gold again? Truly embarrassing and shows how insecure CR is. 27 girls on the roster, feel sorry for the kids who will ride the bench after traveling all the way. Can't wait to hear the lame excuses!!

Well when it's the only tournament you have a chance to win every year(since the MD teams aren't there) you better be damn sure you win it. Have to have something to put on the website to rationalize the 3k all these families pay each year to wear the bee.

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.

Liberty holds tryouts for the team that plays in nationals. They look to do the same, they just dont have the options.

Liberty's two best players last year in U15 were 2018s(goalie and middie) made all tournament team...

TG bringing to 2020 down to play. Everyone does it. This is the 3rd time the YJ 2020 is on a u15 team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.

So instead of saying good for these kids who have played their whole lives as essentially the youngest players on the field against the work the system hold backs who are many times more than a year older you bash them. Its a U14 tournament that requires proof of age, a way to level the playing field against the many hold backs and you bash the system. Many including myself are tired of the super star player who gets so much attention when if they were playing on age would just merely be good. I wish there were more age based tournaments .[/quote]

Hey dopey nobody bashed these kids! One of them is a big-time commit so do you really think she needs to go to this waste of a tournament and play down to show how great she is? This is all about yellow jackets not losing to Liberty.[/quote]

Hey moron maybe the kid just likes playing, maybe she has a younger sister playing, maybe she is making the trip down with friends and wants to go to Busch Gardens after the tournament, who knows. You are apparently too stupid to realize she is playing on age not down and if you don't think your last post was "bashing" I feel terrible for your own kid .Get a life and just let the kids play. Seems to me your posts are "all about Liberty not losing to Yellow Jackets".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.

So instead of saying good for these kids who have played their whole lives as essentially the youngest players on the field against the work the system hold backs who are many times more than a year older you bash them. Its a U14 tournament that requires proof of age, a way to level the playing field against the many hold backs and you bash the system. Many including myself are tired of the super star player who gets so much attention when if they were playing on age would just merely be good. I wish there were more age based tournaments .

Hey dopey nobody bashed these kids! One of them is a big-time commit so do you really think she needs to go to this waste of a tournament and play down to show how great she is? This is all about yellow jackets not losing to Liberty.[/quote]

Hey moron maybe the kid just likes playing, maybe she has a younger sister playing, maybe she is making the trip down with friends and wants to go to Busch Gardens after the tournament, who knows. You are apparently too stupid to realize she is playing on age not down and if you don't think your last post was "bashing" I feel terrible for your own kid .Get a life and just let the kids play. Seems to me your posts are "all about Liberty not losing to Yellow Jackets".

How about the 2021 YJ girls that have two committed 2020 girls taking their play time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.

So instead of saying good for these kids who have played their whole lives as essentially the youngest players on the field against the work the system hold backs who are many times more than a year older you bash them. Its a U14 tournament that requires proof of age, a way to level the playing field against the many hold backs and you bash the system. Many including myself are tired of the super star player who gets so much attention when if they were playing on age would just merely be good. I wish there were more age based tournaments .

Hey dopey nobody bashed these kids! One of them is a big-time commit so do you really think she needs to go to this waste of a tournament and play down to show how great she is? This is all about yellow jackets not losing to Liberty.

Hey moron maybe the kid just likes playing, maybe she has a younger sister playing, maybe she is making the trip down with friends and wants to go to Busch Gardens after the tournament, who knows. You are apparently too stupid to realize she is playing on age not down and if you don't think your last post was "bashing" I feel terrible for your own kid .Get a life and just let the kids play. Seems to me your posts are "all about Liberty not losing to Yellow Jackets".

How about the 2021 YJ girls that have two committed 2020 girls taking their play time
[/quote]

Too bad for them, someone needs to take the draw and carry the defensive. This is after all a National championship and playing time is not guaranteed no matter how far you drive or how much it costs to spend four days in Richmond VA. With 27 kids there's bound to be some unhappy folks after this!

You bozo's actually take this so called Natl championship serious? No one gives a rat a$$! Look at the teams in it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You bozo's actually take this so called Natl championship serious? No one gives a rat a$$! Look at the teams in it!

We wish the MD teams would come down, with all girls finally slotted in their birth year. But we know why they can't.....they'd be pulling girls from their 2023 teams to be playing in the U14s

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You bozo's actually take this so called Natl championship serious? No one gives a rat a$$! Look at the teams in it!

Show up or shut up, that's what the tournament is called, what do you want from the teams that go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You bozo's actually take this so called Natl championship serious? No one gives a rat a$$! Look at the teams in it!

We wish the MD teams would come down, with all girls finally slotted in their birth year. But we know why they can't.....they'd be pulling girls from their 2023 teams to be playing in the U14s

Blah blah blah!! In the end no one cares ! You want to beat your chest beating up teams from the Midwest and West coast . Have fun. It's a joke and has been for several years now. Go home and cook some sausage then get some sun at Jones Beach with the rest of your LI meatballs !

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You bozo's actually take this so called Natl championship serious? No one gives a rat a$$! Look at the teams in it!

We wish the MD teams would come down, with all girls finally slotted in their birth year. But we know why they can't.....they'd be pulling girls from their 2023 teams to be playing in the U14s

Blah blah blah!! In the end no one cares ! You want to beat your chest beating up teams from the Midwest and West coast . Have fun. It's a joke and has been for several years now. Go home and cook some sausage then get some sun at Jones Beach with the rest of your LI meatballs !

Thanks for your input Biff.......now go put on SPF 80 and take Buffy out on your puny little Hobie and go sailing. Tell your 2021 daughter she can use the car this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pulling kids up is one thing but pulling two ringers down who I'm sure me the age requirement to ensure they don't loose to Liberty is sad. It doesnt say much about the so called best team on LI.

So instead of saying good for these kids who have played their whole lives as essentially the youngest players on the field against the work the system hold backs who are many times more than a year older you bash them. Its a U14 tournament that requires proof
of age, a way to level the playing field against the many hold backs and you bash the system. Many including myself are tired of the super star player who gets so much attention when if they were playing on age would just merely be good. I wish there were more age based tournaments .

Hey dopey nobody bashed these kids! One of them is a big-time commit so do you really think she needs to go to this waste of a tournament and play down to show how great she is? This is all about yellow jackets not losing to Liberty.

Hey moron maybe the kid just likes playing, maybe she has a younger sister playing, maybe she is making the trip down with friends and wants to go to Busch Gardens after the tournament, who knows. You are apparently too stupid to realize she is playing on age not down and if you don't think your last post was "bashing" I feel terrible for your own kid .Get a life and just let the kids play. Seems to me your posts are "all about Liberty not losing to Yellow Jackets".

How about the 2021 YJ girls that have two committed 2020 girls taking their play time
[/quote]

It's never been an automatic right to play in this tournament .Back in the past there were actual tryouts that were fairly intense . I do not think the top YJ team has ever been just the regular season team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You bozo's actually take this so called Natl championship serious? No one gives a rat a$$! Look at the teams in it!

We wish the MD teams would come down, with all girls finally slotted in their birth year. But we know why they can't.....they'd be pulling girls from their 2023 teams to be playing in the U14s

Blah blah blah!! In the end no one cares ! You want to beat your chest beating up teams from the Midwest and West coast . Have fun. It's a joke and has been for several years now. Go home and cook some sausage then get some sun at Jones Beach with the rest of your LI meatballs !

Yep, for several years now the MD/VA teams stopped showing up. Ever since you started emulating the boys and holding your daughters back. Your 2021s should be a year from graduating high school. Besides, we're from the north shore of LI, no meatballs up here, and you wannabes can't compete with the lifestyle. Your husbands strut around like brightly dressed peacocks by the way, not much testosterone down there???

I'm from the South Shore of Long Island. I do not frequent Jones Beach, I prefer my beach house on Fire Island. My daughter is 2021 and would love to see a Maryland team at Nationals but we all know why that will never happen. And by the way, we do like sausages, they are delicious and the comment about them and Jones Beach was classless, like you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm from the South Shore of Long Island. I do not frequent Jones Beach, I prefer my beach house on Fire Island. My daughter is 2021 and would love to see a Maryland team at Nationals but we all know why that will never happen. And by the way, we do like sausages, they are delicious and the comment about them and Jones Beach was classless, like you are.

Lighten up Francis

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You bozo's actually take this so called Natl championship serious? No one gives a rat a$$! Look at the teams in it!

It's not about that, it's about YJA not loosing again to Liberty. Bet CR was pissed after the last showdown and gave strict orders not to let that happen again! Most of the YJ crowd would probably agree that this is a dumb waste of time tourney and will come down to 2 Long Island teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm from the South Shore of Long Island. I do not frequent Jones Beach, I prefer my beach house on Fire Island. My daughter is 2021 and would love to see a Maryland team at Nationals but we all know why that will never happen. And by the way, we do like sausages, they are delicious and the comment about them and Jones Beach was classless, like you are.

Lighten up Francis

Classless is parents who scream at refs, kids, and carry around patio umbrellas on the sideline for shade... hmm could that be a LI parent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You bozo's actually take this so called Natl championship serious? No one gives a rat a$$! Look at the teams in it!

We wish the MD teams would come down, with all girls finally slotted in their birth year. But we know why they can't.....they'd be pulling girls from their 2023 teams to be playing in the U14s

Blah blah blah!! In the end no one cares ! You want to beat your chest beating up teams from the Midwest and West coast . Have fun. It's a joke and has been for several years now. Go home and cook some sausage then get some sun at Jones Beach with the rest of your LI meatballs !

Thanks for your input Biff.......now go put on SPF 80 and take Buffy out on your puny little Hobie and go sailing. Tell your 2021 daughter she can use the car this weekend.

Yes the sailing part sounds great. It's a good learning experience. Instead of them learning the finer art of carjacking .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm from the South Shore of Long Island. I do not frequent Jones Beach, I prefer my beach house on Fire Island. My daughter is 2021 and would love to see a Maryland team at Nationals but we all know why that will never happen. And by the way, we do like sausages, they are delicious and the comment about them and Jones Beach was classless, like you are.

Lighten up Francis

Classless is parents who scream at refs, kids, and carry around patio umbrellas on the sideline for shade... hmm could that be a LI parent?

Once they said south shore it was all over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

I know this is parents and you sound like 2-year olds, you are obviously living through your kids. I have older kids too and the best teams (which can vary by graduating year) - M&D, Skywalkers, YJs, Capital, Heros, STEPS, there are others - typically win some and lose some against one another each summer. M&D, SWs, and YJs tend to win disproportionately from what I have seen, but all of them tend to be very competitive against one another as they get older. Of course they all want to win and they should but in the whole scheme of things who cares if they end up playing college lacrosse at a place they want to be if that is what they want. If they play on a top team, they will definitely actively been seen by the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

I know this is parents and you sound like 2-year olds, you are obviously living through your kids. I have older kids too and the best teams (which can vary by graduating year) - M&D, Skywalkers, YJs, Capital, Heros, STEPS, there are others - typically win some and lose some against one another each summer. M&D, SWs, and YJs
tend to win disproportionately from what I have seen, but all of them tend to be very competitive against one another as they get older. Of course they all want to win and they should but in the whole scheme of things who cares if they end up playing college lacrosse at a place they want to be if that is what they want. If they play on a top team, they will definitely actively been seen by the coaches.

Tell me which year a STEPS team could legitimately claim to be a top team. I stopped reading after that as I just assumed the rest of it would be just as nonsensical .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

I know this is parents and you sound like 2-year olds, you are obviously living through your kids. I have older kids too and the best teams (which can vary by graduating year) - M&D, Skywalkers, YJs, Capital, Heros, STEPS, there are others - typically win some and lose some against one another each summer. M&D, SWs, and YJs
tend to win disproportionately from what I have seen, but all of them tend to be very competitive against one another as they get older. Of course they all want to win and they should but in the whole scheme of things who cares if they end up playing college lacrosse at a place they want to be if that is what they want. If they play on a top team, they will definitely actively been seen by the coaches.

Tell me which year a STEPS team could legitimately claim to be a top team. I stopped reading after that as I just assumed the rest of it would be just as nonsensical .

2019 to start won Lax for the cure . Beat TG, SW , heros green to win it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

I know this is parents and you sound like 2-year olds, you are obviously living through your kids. I have older kids too and the best teams (which can vary by graduating year) - M&D, Skywalkers, YJs, Capital, Heros, STEPS, there are others - typically win some and lose some against one another each summer. M&D, SWs, and YJs
tend to win disproportionately from what I have seen, but all of them tend to be very competitive against one another as they get older. Of course they all want to win and they should but in the whole scheme of things who cares if they end up playing college lacrosse at a place they want to be if that is what they want. If they play on a top team, they will definitely actively been seen by the coaches.

Tell me which year a STEPS team could legitimately claim to be a top team. I stopped reading after that as I just assumed the rest of it would be just as nonsensical .

At least the same number as YJ, zero (but even Steps could argue 2018).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

I know this is parents and you sound like 2-year olds, you are obviously living through your kids. I have older kids too and the best teams (which can vary by graduating year) - M&D, Skywalkers, YJs, Capital, Heros, STEPS, there are others - typically win some and lose some against one another each summer. M&D, SWs, and YJs
tend to win disproportionately from what I have seen, but all of them tend to be very competitive against one another as they get older. Of course they all want to win and they should but in the whole scheme of things who cares if they end up playing college lacrosse at a place they want to be if that is what they want. If they play on a top team, they will definitely actively been seen by the coaches.

Tell me which year a STEPS team could legitimately claim to be a top team. I stopped reading after that as I just assumed the rest of it would be just as nonsensical .

2019 to start won Lax for the cure . Beat TG, SW , heros green to win it.

Steps/Carro nat draw score anybody?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

I know this is parents and you sound like 2-year olds, you are obviously living through your kids. I have older kids too and the best teams (which can vary by graduating year) - M&D, Skywalkers, YJs, Capital, Heros, STEPS, there are others - typically win some and lose some against one another each summer. M&D, SWs, and YJs
tend to win disproportionately from what I have seen, but all of them tend to be very competitive against one another as they get older. Of course they all want to win and they should but in the whole scheme of things who cares if they end up playing college lacrosse at a place they want to be if that is what they want. If they play on a top team, they will definitely actively been seen by the coaches.

Tell me which year a STEPS team could legitimately claim to be a top team. I stopped reading after that as I just assumed the rest of it would be just as nonsensical .

2019 to start won Lax for the cure . Beat TG, SW , heros green to win it.

That was some pool steps was in, amazing they even made it out of it...other pools were very soft.

Not a very good showing for Leg this weekend at Hofstra, what happened? Several bad beat downs by a bunch of unknown teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a very good showing for Leg this weekend at Hofstra, what happened? Several bad beat downs by a bunch of unknown teams.

That's not the LI Leg team it is another program

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

I know this is parents and you sound like 2-year olds, you are obviously living through your kids. I have older kids too and the best teams (which can vary by graduating year) - M&D, Skywalkers, YJs, Capital, Heros, STEPS, there are others - typically win some and lose some against one another each summer. M&D, SWs, and YJs
tend to win disproportionately from what I have seen, but all of them tend to be very competitive against one another as they get older. Of course they all want to win and they should but in the whole scheme of things who cares if they end up playing college lacrosse at a place they want to be if that is what they want. If they play on a top team, they will definitely actively been seen by the coaches.

Tell me which year a STEPS team could legitimately claim to be a top team. I stopped reading after that as I just assumed the rest of it would be just as nonsensical .

2019 to start won Lax for the cure . Beat TG, SW , heros green to win it.

Steps/Carro nat draw score anybody?

Don't know about that but know Carro got beat by TLC and MD U

Not LI legacy team

Leg 2021 not at Hofstra. I heard the 24's won.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Leg 2021 not at Hofstra. I heard the 24's won.

Strange then there's a team called Legacy lax 2021 that went 0-4? Maybe your daughter wasn't asked to play??

[lacrosse] wipe...know the facts before you start leaking

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Leg 2021 not at Hofstra. I heard the 24's won.

Strange then there's a team called Legacy lax 2021 that went 0-4? Maybe your daughter wasn't asked to play??

Legacy = Massachusetts
LI Legacy 2021 Blue = Long Island

Your an idiot. Go crawl back into your hole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Leg 2021 not at Hofstra. I heard the 24's won.

Yes they beat TG Black in the final 9-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Leg 2021 not at Hofstra. I heard the 24's won.

Yes they beat TG Black in the final 9-1

I also heart the Leg 23 team didn't go to the tournament it was too competitive for them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want but it's the only national tournament with a level playing field. The MD , Capital , teams would never show due to the age restrictions and no home town cooking with the refs etc.

Home town cooking? So what do you call it when the MD teams beat you in tournaments when they are in PA and NJ?

I know this is parents and you sound like 2-year olds, you are obviously living through your kids. I have older kids too and the best teams (which can vary by graduating year) - M&D, Skywalkers, YJs, Capital, Heros, STEPS, there are others - typically win some and lose some against one another each summer. M&D, SWs, and YJs
tend to win disproportionately from what I have seen, but all of them tend to be very competitive against one another as they get older. Of course they all want to win and they should but in the whole scheme of things who cares if they end up playing college lacrosse at a place they want to be if that is what they want. If they play on a top team, they will definitely actively been seen by the coaches.

Tell me which year a STEPS team could legitimately claim to be a top team. I stopped reading after that as I just assumed the rest of it would be just as nonsensical .

2019 to start won Lax for the cure . Beat TG, SW , heros green to win it.

That was some pool steps was in, amazing they even made it out of it...other pools were very soft.

It amazes me to listen the YJ Carro parents .. bottom line your kids are committed to nice programs and schools . As is mine. But to listen to the classless nonsense indicates you will be lonely on the sidelines if you continue to conduct yourselves in the manner you choose. Best of luck we will be sure not to include you in our tailgates.

It amazes me to listen the YJ Carro parents .. bottom line your kids are committed to nice programs and schools . As is mine. But to listen to the classless nonsense indicates you will be lonely on the sidelines if you continue to conduct yourselves in the manner you choose. Best of luck we will be sure not to include you in our tailgates.

What amazes me is that a know it all loser like you thinks they know who is posting. More amazing is that you think you will be the popular guy at your kids college tailgates . That pompous know it all attitude will get you no where and the parents of college players don't care if your kid played YJ ,but a douchie attitude like yours will surely get you uninvited . Can anyone say tailgate for one .

Why are YJ 2019 and Steps 2019 teams being discussed on the 2021 forum?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It amazes me to listen the YJ Carro parents .. bottom line your kids are committed to nice programs and schools . As is mine. But to listen to the classless nonsense indicates you will be lonely on the sidelines if you continue to conduct yourselves in the manner you choose. Best of luck we will be sure not to include you in our tailgates.

What amazes me is that a know it all loser like you thinks they know who is posting. More amazing is that you think you will be the popular guy at your kids college tailgates . That pompous know it all attitude will get you no where and the parents of college players don't care if your kid played YJ ,but a douchie attitude like yours will surely get you uninvited . Can anyone say tailgate for one .

Haha..they show up wearing their YJ wear at tournaments ...its so embarrassing..will that continue t the college level? maybe a bee hat?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are YJ 2019 and Steps 2019 teams being discussed on the 2021 forum?

Guess 21s are too boring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are YJ 2019 and Steps 2019 teams being discussed on the 2021 forum?

Guess 21s are too boring.

Will liven up one Liberty takes down YJ for two crowns, undisputed best on LI and National Champs!
Does stink we have to fly to VA to do this and probably could have been settled at Hofstra but still worth the effort.

National champ is the funniest part of that last post. Enjoy the airport, we will be enjoying family time at the beach knowing who the real national champs are. SW

Originally Posted by Anonymous

National champ is the funniest part of that last post. Enjoy the airport, we will be enjoying family time at the beach knowing who the real national champs are. SW

Sorry this is the u14 national championship not the my 15 y.o hold back and her hold back friends playing against younger kids championship that you SW pride yourselves on . Your SW teams used to put it on the line but now that you all get left back in pre-k it's amazing you no longer go .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

National champ is the funniest part of that last post. Enjoy the airport, we will be enjoying family time at the beach knowing who the real national champs are. SW

Sorry this is the u14 national championship not the my 15 y.o hold back and her hold back friends playing against younger kids championship that you SW pride yourselves on . Your SW teams used to put it on the line but now that you all get left back in pre-k it's amazing you no longer go .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

National champ is the funniest part of that last post. Enjoy the airport, we will be enjoying family time at the beach knowing who the real national champs are. SW

Sorry this is the u14 national championship not the my 15 y.o hold back and her hold back friends playing against younger kids championship that you SW pride yourselves on . Your SW teams used to put it on the line but now that you all get left back in pre-k it's amazing you no longer go .

Ha, now that is hilarious. I have 2 D-1 daughter's (not sw) far removed from club. Nothing is furthermore than the truth than your NY/NJ BS regarding "holdbacks."

There is WAAY more competition down in MD for a roster spot, in HS or club, hence the level of competition. Keep making excuses while ur teams get rocked by MD.

I'm not saying our parents and "smack talking" are superior, but our lacrosse is. FEAR THE TURTLE!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

National champ is the funniest part of that last post. Enjoy the airport, we will be enjoying family time at the beach knowing who the real national champs are. SW

Sorry this is the u14 national championship not the my 15 y.o hold back and her hold back friends playing against younger kids championship that you SW pride yourselves on . Your SW teams used to put it on the line but now that you all get left back in pre-k it's amazing you no longer go .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

National champ is the funniest part of that last post. Enjoy the airport, we will be enjoying family time at the beach knowing who the real national champs are. SW

Sorry this is the u14 national championship not the my 15 y.o hold back and her hold back friends playing against younger kids championship that you SW pride yourselves on . Your SW teams used to put it on the line but now that you all get left back in pre-k it's amazing you no longer go .

Ha, now that is hilarious. I have 2 D-1 daughter's (not sw) far removed from club. Nothing is furthermore than the truth than your NY/NJ BS regarding "holdbacks."

There is WAAY more competition down in MD for a roster spot, in HS or club, hence the level of competition. Keep making excuses while ur teams get rocked by MD.

I'm not saying our parents and "smack talking" are superior, but our lacrosse is. FEAR THE TURTLE!!!!!!

Wow . Two D1 daughters so impressive . Question for you ,how is it that 2/3 of the UA players from Washington and Baltimore combined last year would have been considered hold backs ( I use last year because they posted dob ).

First enforce the age change to actual age U15. Then posting team roster and dob, also for all players must have a state issued ID required to register for tournaments. All coach should have a roster with photo to show refee before each game. I'm a MD parent and I'm for these changes. Other sport do this like soccer.... to end the hold back crying I'm for it. We will not loss one player to the new age rules.

So what were this girls ages that were held back........

My daughter plays in this age group in Maryland and is on age - born after 9/1/02 - as are nearly all of her teammates. There are a handful of girls with summer birthdays on the team. In Maryland, the practice of repeating 8th grade is rampant on the boy's side (will be interesting to see if it continues after the rule change) but is all but non-existent on the girl's side. I don't consider a girl or boy a holdback if they did a pre-first year due to a summer birthday. This topic was all the rage when my 2018 son was a rising freshman and then it was never mentioned again.

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Go back in your hole CRAB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter plays in this age group in Maryland and is on age - born after 9/1/02 - as are nearly all of her teammates. There are a handful of girls with summer birthdays on the team. In Maryland, the practice of repeating 8th grade is rampant on the boy's side (will be interesting to see if it continues after the rule change) but is all but non-existent on the girl's side. I don't consider a girl or boy a holdback if they did a pre-first year due to a summer birthday. This topic was all the rage when my 2018 son was a rising freshman and then it was never mentioned again.

That's the thing , you would not consider a summer birthday a holdback but it is. On Long Island that summer birthday would put them in the middle of the age range( not older end not younger end) but a year younger than your non Maryland holdback. Ask your directors why they stopped putting in teams to the age based national championship, they just could not compete on age. The SW parents have a legitimate claim to being the best 2021 team in the country but the winner this weekend can claim they are unarguably the best U14 team in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter plays in this age group in Maryland and is on age - born after 9/1/02 - as are nearly all of her teammates. There are a handful of girls with summer birthdays on the team. In Maryland, the practice of repeating 8th grade is rampant on the boy's side (will be interesting to see if it continues after the rule change) but is all but non-existent on the girl's side. I don't consider a girl or boy a holdback if they did a pre-first year due to a summer birthday. This topic was all the rage when my 2018 son was a rising freshman and then it was never mentioned again.

Ok, my daughter is born in Oct 2002 and is a 2020.........not a 2021....we will agree to disagree is all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

blah blah blah...funny how the only tournament that is age based, MD doesn't show up to, interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter plays in this age group in Maryland and is on age - born after 9/1/02 - as are nearly all of her teammates. There are a handful of girls with summer birthdays on the team. In Maryland, the practice of repeating 8th grade is rampant on the boy's side (will be interesting to see if it continues after the rule change) but is all but non-existent on the girl's side. I don't consider a girl or boy a holdback if they did a pre-first year due to a summer birthday. This topic was all the rage when my 2018 son was a rising freshman and then it was never mentioned again.

That's the thing , you would not consider a summer birthday a holdback but it is. On Long Island that summer birthday would put them in the middle of the age range( not older end not younger end) but a year younger than your non Maryland holdback. Ask your directors why they stopped putting in teams to the age based national championship, they just could not compete on age. The SW parents have a legitimate claim to being the best 2021 team in the country but the winner this weekend can claim they are unarguably the best U14 team in the country.

Sorry, but a "pre-first year" due to a summer birthday is the exact definition of a holdback - didn't start school according to the schedule defined by the state. Can't do much about the 3 month difference between MD and NY, but don't make stuff up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter plays in this age group in Maryland and is on age - born after 9/1/02 - as are nearly all of her teammates. There are a handful of girls with summer birthdays on the team. In Maryland, the practice of repeating 8th grade is rampant on the boy's side (will be interesting to see if it continues after the rule change) but is all but non-existent on the girl's side. I don't consider a girl or boy a holdback if they did a pre-first year due to a summer birthday. This topic was all the rage when my 2018 son was a rising freshman and then it was never mentioned again.

That's the thing , you would not consider a summer birthday a holdback but it is. On Long Island that summer birthday would put them in the middle of the age range( not older end not younger end) but a year younger than your non Maryland holdback. Ask your directors why they stopped putting in teams to the age based national championship, they just could not compete on age. The SW parents have a legitimate claim to being the best 2021 team in the country but the winner this weekend can claim they are unarguably the best U14 team in the country.

No, just the best U14 team that showed up for this particular tournament that added "national championship" to its title. (And not sure "unarguably" is even a word.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

Liberty already beat YJ this year it appears they can also compete

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

blah blah blah...funny how the only tournament that is age based, MD doesn't show up to, interesting.

Who cares. Lacrosse is grade based for 99.9% of games played. Guess who started grade based lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter plays in this age group in Maryland and is on age - born after 9/1/02 - as are nearly all of her teammates. There are a handful of girls with summer birthdays on the team. In Maryland, the practice of repeating 8th grade is rampant on the boy's side (will be interesting to see if it continues after the rule change) but is all but non-existent on the girl's side. I don't consider a girl or boy a holdback if they did a pre-first year due to a summer birthday. This topic was all the rage when my 2018 son was a rising freshman and then it was never mentioned again.

That's the thing , you would not consider a summer birthday a holdback but it is. On Long Island that summer birthday would put them in the middle of the age range( not older end not younger end) but a year younger than your non Maryland holdback. Ask your directors why they stopped putting in teams to the age based national championship, they just could not compete on age. The SW parents have a legitimate claim to being the best 2021 team in the country but the winner this weekend can claim they are unarguably the best U14 team in the country.

No, just the best U14 team that showed up for this particular tournament that added "national championship" to its title. (And not sure "unarguably" is even a word.)

Your post just proves that some of you Maryland residents are held back in school for reasons other than athletics. If you are unsure of a word just look it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

Liberty already beat YJ this year it appears they can also compete

And YJ hasn't beaten SW or M&D in 2 years. Liberty has never beaten them nor come close. Congrats Liberty on beating YJ one time. Maryland United beat M&D once too 3 years ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.

Maryland does have middle school lacrosse but LI girls are allowed to play for Varsity teams which I would argue is much more advantageous to their development then playing on a middle school team of mixed abilities. However, MD has a spring club league which i agree is an absolute advantage at the beginning of the summer. Why LI does not do the same thing is beyond me.

Congrats on YJ having so many commits. All that proves is that the parents and/or YJ pushes those girls hard on the colleges. Do you honestly believe when all is said and done that YJ will have more committed girls than SW, M&D, Heros, etc?? Committing in 8th grade is only important to the parents. I had no idea what I wanted to do in 8th grade and am thankful that my daughter now has the time to really make an informed decision instead of committing because everyone else was.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.

Maryland does have middle school lacrosse but LI girls are allowed to play for Varsity teams which I would argue is much more advantageous to their development then playing on a middle school team of mixed abilities. However, MD has a spring club league which i agree is an absolute advantage at the beginning of the summer. Why LI does not do the same thing is beyond me.

Congrats on YJ having so many commits. All that proves is that the parents and/or YJ pushes those girls hard on the colleges. Do you honestly believe when all is said and done that YJ will have more committed girls than SW, M&D, Heros, etc?? Committing in 8th grade is only important to the parents. I had no idea what I wanted to do in 8th grade and am thankful that my daughter now has the time to really make an informed decision instead of committing because everyone else was.

What Counties in Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? Please tell me how they practice 2x week and games on weekends with club and still play school ball?? Spring club league is a huge advantage. LI cant do it because of the weather and some egos from directors. Why do you dismiss YJ commits? Youll thump your chest about winning a half of one game and a tshirt but not give credit where it is due?? One more clue for you MD fans Long Island is an area not a state.
PS Not a YJ Parent

Go on the Mid Atlantic Forum. This is the BOTC Main Forum for Northeast Lacrosse.

Go on the Maryland and Vicinity Forum boasting how great your 15 year old holdback daughter is on the 2021 year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.

Maryland does have middle school lacrosse but LI girls are allowed to play for Varsity teams which I would argue is much more advantageous to their development then playing on a middle school team of mixed abilities. However, MD has a spring club league which i agree is an absolute advantage at the beginning of the summer. Why LI does not do the same thing is beyond me.

Congrats on YJ having so many commits. All that proves is that the parents and/or YJ pushes those girls hard on the colleges. Do you honestly believe when all is said and done that YJ will have more committed girls than SW, M&D, Heros, etc?? Committing in 8th grade is only important to the parents. I had no idea what I wanted to do in 8th grade and am thankful that my daughter now has the time to really make an informed decision instead of committing because everyone else was.

What Counties in Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? Please tell me how they practice 2x week and games on weekends with club and still play school ball?? Spring club league is a huge advantage. LI cant do it because of the weather and some egos from directors. Why do you dismiss YJ commits? Youll thump your chest about winning a half of one game and a tshirt but not give credit where it is due?? One more clue for you MD fans Long Island is an area not a state.
PS Not a YJ Parent

Baltimore county middle schools as well as all private schools have lacrosse. The girls have school practice/game up until 5 or 5:30 and then club practice at 6 a couple days a week.

I didn't dismiss the commits on YJ. They are very good players. But the only reason that they have more than M&D and SW is because they really pushed for them. You really think there aren't girls on those MD teams as good if not better than the YJ commits?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go on the Mid Atlantic Forum. This is the BOTC Main Forum for Northeast Lacrosse.

Go on the Maryland and Vicinity Forum boasting how great your 15 year old holdback daughter is on the 2021 year.

No problem. As soon as LI parents stay out of the Maryland forums we'll stay out of this one.

If you don't like the boasting, win a tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go on the Mid Atlantic Forum. This is the BOTC Main Forum for Northeast Lacrosse.

Go on the Maryland and Vicinity Forum boasting how great your 15 year old holdback daughter is on the 2021 year.

No problem. As soon as LI parents stay out of the Maryland forums we'll stay out of this one.

If you don't like the boasting, win a tournament.

Lol, we just did. Lax For The Cure. Schooled you loser holdbacks.......now please go away, you're probably late for your flopping lesson.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc. [/quote]

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.
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Maryland does have middle school lacrosse but LI girls are allowed to play for Varsity teams which I would argue is much more advantageous to their development then playing on a middle school team of mixed abilities. However, MD has a spring club league which i agree is an absolute advantage at the beginning of the summer. Why LI does not do the same thing is beyond me.

Congrats on YJ having so many commits. All that proves is that the parents and/or YJ pushes those girls hard on the colleges. Do you honestly believe when all is said and done that YJ will have more committed girls than SW, M&D, Heros, etc?? Committing in 8th grade is only important to the parents. I had no idea what I wanted to do in 8th grade and am thankful that my daughter now has the time to really make an informed decision instead of committing because everyone else was.[/quote]

What Counties in Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? Please tell me how they practice 2x week and games on weekends with club and still play school ball?? Spring club league is a huge advantage. LI cant do it because of the weather and some egos from directors. Why do you dismiss YJ commits? Youll thump your chest about winning a half of one game and a tshirt but not give credit where it is due?? One more clue for you MD fans Long Island is an area not a state.
PS Not a YJ Parent
[/quote]

Baltimore county middle schools as well as all private schools have lacrosse. The girls have school practice/game up until 5 or 5:30 and then club practice at 6 a couple days a week.

I didn't dismiss the commits on YJ. They are very good players. But the only reason that they have more than M&D and SW is because they really pushed for them. You really think there aren't girls on those MD teams as good if not better than the YJ commits?[/quote]
You come up with one county that has middle school lacrosse? You Maryland people are unbelievable - age based tourneys no show and then bash the tourney. Oldest kids on our teams are all 2003 not 2002. You have a High School team that hasn't lost in like 20years they wouldn't be undefeated for one season on Long Island. Oh and then the winner is YJ parents pushed themselves on college coaches that's why they got offers. I better go push my daughter on a college because that's all it takes according to MD. There is a Maryland forum?? Um nobody cares or goes on it. Your teams are great no need to bash us and get off your pedestal your best team lost to Monsters. It happens but don't dismiss every team on Long Island you have 2 top teams, maybe we have 1, not a big difference that you all think there is. We have 2 counties on Long Island your teams have kids from several states be real. Look at your own words "My daughters 2021 team has two kids with 8/2002 birthdays, on LI they would be 2020. Enough said...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.

Maryland does have middle school lacrosse but LI girls are allowed to play for Varsity teams which I would argue is much more advantageous to their development then playing on a middle school team of mixed abilities. However, MD has a spring club league which i agree is an absolute advantage at the beginning of the summer. Why LI does not do the same thing is beyond me.

Congrats on YJ having so many commits. All that proves is that the parents and/or YJ pushes those girls hard on the colleges. Do you honestly believe when all is said and done that YJ will have more committed girls than SW, M&D, Heros, etc?? Committing in 8th grade is only important to the parents. I had no idea what I wanted to do in 8th grade and am thankful that my daughter now has the time to really make an informed decision instead of committing because everyone else was.

Plus, as a 15 year old in 8th grade your daughter is much more mature than my 13 year old and will probably have a better idea of what she wants to do in college. You're right, wait until 11th grade when she is 18, she'll really know what she wants to do by then and will be able to make a much better decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go on the Mid Atlantic Forum. This is the BOTC Main Forum for Northeast Lacrosse.

Go on the Maryland and Vicinity Forum boasting how great your 15 year old holdback daughter is on the 2021 year.

No problem. As soon as LI parents stay out of the Maryland forums we'll stay out of this one.

If you don't like the boasting, win a tournament.

Lol, we just did. Lax For The Cure. Schooled you loser holdbacks.......now please go away, you're probably late for your flopping lesson.

Last I checked Skywalkers won Lax for the Cure. Not sure what alternate universe you are living in but a LI team hasn't won a tournament in over 2 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.
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Maryland does have middle school lacrosse but LI girls are allowed to play for Varsity teams which I would argue is much more advantageous to their development then playing on a middle school team of mixed abilities. However, MD has a spring club league which i agree is an absolute advantage at the beginning of the summer. Why LI does not do the same thing is beyond me.

Congrats on YJ having so many commits. All that proves is that the parents and/or YJ pushes those girls hard on the colleges. Do you honestly believe when all is said and done that YJ will have more committed girls than SW, M&D, Heros, etc?? Committing in 8th grade is only important to the parents. I had no idea what I wanted to do in 8th grade and am thankful that my daughter now has the time to really make an informed decision instead of committing because everyone else was.[/quote]

What Counties in Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? Please tell me how they practice 2x week and games on weekends with club and still play school ball?? Spring club league is a huge advantage. LI cant do it because of the weather and some egos from directors. Why do you dismiss YJ commits? Youll thump your chest about winning a half of one game and a tshirt but not give credit where it is due?? One more clue for you MD fans Long Island is an area not a state.
PS Not a YJ Parent
[/quote]

Baltimore county middle schools as well as all private schools have lacrosse. The girls have school practice/game up until 5 or 5:30 and then club practice at 6 a couple days a week.

I didn't dismiss the commits on YJ. They are very good players. But the only reason that they have more than M&D and SW is because they really pushed for them. You really think there aren't girls on those MD teams as good if not better than the YJ commits?[/quote]
You come up with one county that has middle school lacrosse? You Maryland people are unbelievable - age based tourneys no show and then bash the tourney. Oldest kids on our teams are all 2003 not 2002. You have a High School team that hasn't lost in like 20years they wouldn't be undefeated for one season on Long Island. Oh and then the winner is YJ parents pushed themselves on college coaches that's why they got offers. I better go push my daughter on a college because that's all it takes according to MD. There is a Maryland forum?? Um nobody cares or goes on it. Your teams are great no need to bash us and get off your pedestal your best team lost to Monsters. It happens but don't dismiss every team on Long Island you have 2 top teams, maybe we have 1, not a big difference that you all think there is. We have 2 counties on Long Island your teams have kids from several states be real. Look at your own words "My daughters 2021 team has two kids with 8/2002 birthdays, on LI they would be 2020. Enough said...[/quote]

Right because there are a lot of lacrosse players from anywhere other than Baltimore, Howard, Carroll and AA counties in MD. Truth is, the population of Long Island is much larger than the lacrosse playing areas of Maryland. Come up with another excuse.

In terms of the birthdays, maybe LI should get with the rest of the country and make their school cutoff 9/1. Not to mention LI started grade based lacrosse. Md team followed suit. Carol Rose uses this to explain the reason you don't win. Other age groups don't have an issue. What is wrong with the 2021s on the island?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.

Maryland does have middle school lacrosse but LI girls are allowed to play for Varsity teams which I would argue is much more advantageous to their development then playing on a middle school team of mixed abilities. However, MD has a spring club league which i agree is an absolute advantage at the beginning of the summer. Why LI does not do the same thing is beyond me.

Congrats on YJ having so many commits. All that proves is that the parents and/or YJ pushes those girls hard on the colleges. Do you honestly believe when all is said and done that YJ will have more committed girls than SW, M&D, Heros, etc?? Committing in 8th grade is only important to the parents. I had no idea what I wanted to do in 8th grade and am thankful that my daughter now has the time to really make an informed decision instead of committing because everyone else was.

Plus, as a 15 year old in 8th grade your daughter is much more mature than my 13 year old and will probably have a better idea of what she wants to do in college. You're right, wait until 11th grade when she is 18, she'll really know what she wants to do by then and will be able to make a much better decision.

If you honestly believe that there will be 18 year old girls in 11th grade I don't know what to tell you. There were no 15 year old girls on the MD teams this summer. Come up with a new excuse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

Yes, holdbacks are rampant for the boys in MD and VA but not for the girls? OK, sure. Same families but they only give their sons the advantage? You really need to come up with a better excuse than "only the boys do that" because it's not working any longer. Odd, you guys don't show up to any age based tourneys though. Send your on age 2023s to the u14s and let's see how they do. You won't, they don't give a free position every time the wind blows to Suzie flopper MD. Wimp ball.

Obviously you have no idea how private schools work in MD. The girls schools don't offer a prefirst grade that the boys school do. Why? Because the idea is that boys with Spring and Summer birthdays benefit from starting school a little later. That is where a lot of the older boys come from, not necessarily from repeating a grade. It is very, very rare for girls to repeat grades. And it is very, very rare for girls to do a prefirst year as the girls' schools don't offer it. My daughter's 2021 team has 2 girls born in the last two weeks of August 2022. Other than that, every girl is after the 9/1 school cutoff date.

Who really needs to come up with a better excuse is the LI parents as to why MD teams easily run circles around their teams. Especially considering that there are a lot of very good teams in MD that the girls are spread between. Whereas on LI, YJ is the only team that can compete with M&D, SW, Heros, Stars, etc.

No excuse the Maryland teams are great. But lets be honest about a few things
-Does Maryland have Middle School Lacrosse? I believe not, so while the Long Island Girls are playing school, Maryland girls are playing/practicing with their clubs.Huge advantage to play together. Most Long Island teams have a week or two of practices before we head off to our first tournament.
-Weather is big factor in getting the Long Island Girls on the field. Maryland spring is much earlier.
The one thing I have seen more than years prior that on any given Sunday.... Monster beat SW, Liberty beat YJ you never know. Your thumping your chest about how great you are - how many commits do you have in this grade? How many does LI have? Its not about your T-Shirt on Sunday, its about clubs making money and our daughters going to college.

Maryland does have middle school lacrosse but LI girls are allowed to play for Varsity teams which I would argue is much more advantageous to their development then playing on a middle school team of mixed abilities. However, MD has a spring club league which i agree is an absolute advantage at the beginning of the summer. Why LI does not do the same thing is beyond me.

Congrats on YJ having so many commits. All that proves is that the parents and/or YJ pushes those girls hard on the colleges. Do you honestly believe when all is said and done that YJ will have more committed girls than SW, M&D, Heros, etc?? Committing in 8th grade is only important to the parents. I had no idea what I wanted to do in 8th grade and am thankful that my daughter now has the time to really make an informed decision instead of committing because everyone else was.

You are correct, there are many MD kids/parents who could have pushed the early commit thing and have been the first to commit. And yes there are better players on the MD and SW teams, and even better players on the YJ team. Do not equate early commits solely to talent level, it doesn't always work like that. You are also correct it is more a function of parents pushing the issue.

LI Parents, the MD girls are doing your girls a favor. Think of how well prepared they will be for Varsity lacrosse next year. Playing against older, better girls has its benefits.

Which tournament is it that these Maryland parents think is a true national championship ? They always have some excuse as to why the tournament they don't win is not but never name the one that is .It seems three history is attending these national championship tournaments such as national draw and the U15 etc., losing to usually LI clubs then no longer going .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament is it that these Maryland parents think is a true national championship ? They always have some excuse as to why the tournament they don't win is not but never name the one that is .It seems three history is attending these national championship tournaments such as national draw and the U15 etc., losing to usually LI clubs then no longer going .

It's a stupid concept calling one tournament a national championship. All the teams played each other in 2 tournaments(Lax for the Cure and Mid Atlantic Championships) this summer and more than that last year(add Laxin out Loud). They also play each other at Summer Genesis and G8. All the good teams are at these events. LI teams haven't won any of these events in the last 2 years. And as far as the tournament MD teams don't win....they win every tournament they are in.

National Draw is a joke now too. M&D 2021 won it the only time they played in it so find another excuse on that one.

Too funny any tournament that the MD teams don't go to anymore because they got their butts kicked are terrible . The MD people are the only ones making excuses why they no longer will attend tournaments based on age . Do the LI people come in here saying that some of these tournaments are played when NY school teams are still playing or are graduation weekend for many LI teams ,no. You can say that Maryland girls don't get held back but UA dates of birth tell a different story .

So after going through the first summer under the recruiting rule change, what do you think the consequences are?

1. Think twice about spending money on expensive showcases this coming year. There was a massive drop in college coach attendance at some top 2020 (9th grade) showcases this summer, so expect the same next summer when the 2021s are that age. The 2018-2019 season will be the big one for the 2021s.

2. Consider whether to bother with too many college ID camps. The focus will be almost entirely on 2020s this coming year.

3. The importance of your club's prior relationships with college coaches is diminished now regardless how much bragging and boasting the club directors engage in. There will be much less guess work on the part of college coaches, who probably did rely on club directors prior to the rule change. They were committing 8th and 9th graders who were still physically developing, but now they have plenty of time to see the girls play after most of them are much closer to full athletic development, and the girls are more mature about their decisions.

4. The pressure is off young girls now, and a lot of power has been shifted from club directors to the players. I think club directors are feeling it, too. This is a good thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after going through the first summer under the recruiting rule change, what do you think the consequences are?

1. Think twice about spending money on expensive showcases this coming year. There was a massive drop in college coach attendance at some top 2020 (9th grade) showcases this summer, so expect the same next summer when the 2021s are that age. The 2018-2019 season will be the big one for the 2021s.

2. Consider whether to bother with too many college ID camps. The focus will be almost entirely on 2020s this coming year.

3. The importance of your club's prior relationships with college coaches is diminished now regardless how much bragging and boasting the club directors engage in. There will be much less guess work on the part of college coaches, who probably did rely on club directors prior to the rule change. They were committing 8th and 9th graders who were still physically developing, but now they have plenty of time to see the girls play after most of them are much closer to full athletic development, and the girls are more mature about their decisions.

4. The pressure is off young girls now, and a lot of power has been shifted from club directors to the players. I think club directors are feeling it, too. This is a good thing.

Plus, high school coaches could end up back in the equation. That would be interesting considering that quite a few of the club coaches are also high school coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after going through the first summer under the recruiting rule change, what do you think the consequences are?

1. Think twice about spending money on expensive showcases this coming year. There was a massive drop in college coach attendance at some top 2020 (9th grade) showcases this summer, so expect the same next summer when the 2021s are that age. The 2018-2019 season will be the big one for the 2021s.

2. Consider whether to bother with too many college ID camps. The focus will be almost entirely on 2020s this coming year.

3. The importance of your club's prior relationships with college coaches is diminished now regardless how much bragging and boasting the club directors engage in. There will be much less guess work on the part of college coaches, who probably did rely on club directors prior to the rule change. They were committing 8th and 9th graders who were still physically developing, but now they have plenty of time to see the girls play after most of them are much closer to full athletic development, and the girls are more mature about their decisions.

4. The pressure is off young girls now, and a lot of power has been shifted from club directors to the players. I think club directors are feeling it, too. This is a good thing.

The rule change has gutted the players ability to evaluate these coaches, programs and schools. You may not see that until offers come on 9/1 of their junior year and the pressure to commit is immediate. How much interaction did your daughter have with the coaches, the athletic support staff, academic staff and a detailed tour and overview of the school before making this decision? If you have multiple offers, now you have to find time to make all those visits or make that decision blindly? This going on during your fall sports season in a critical academic time as well. Under the old system, parents and players willing to put in the work had all this done ahead of making a decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too funny any tournament that the MD teams don't go to anymore because they got their butts kicked are terrible . The MD people are the only ones making excuses why they no longer will attend tournaments based on age . Do the LI people come in here saying that some of these tournaments are played when NY school teams are still playing or are graduation weekend for many LI teams ,no. You can say that Maryland girls don't get held back but UA dates of birth tell a different story .

Name me one tournament where the MD teams get their butts kicked? Hasn't ever happened for 2021 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after going through the first summer under the recruiting rule change, what do you think the consequences are?

1. Think twice about spending money on expensive showcases this coming year. There was a massive drop in college coach attendance at some top 2020 (9th grade) showcases this summer, so expect the same next summer when the 2021s are that age. The 2018-2019 season will be the big one for the 2021s.

2. Consider whether to bother with too many college ID camps. The focus will be almost entirely on 2020s this coming year.

3. The importance of your club's prior relationships with college coaches is diminished now regardless how much bragging and boasting the club directors engage in. There will be much less guess work on the part of college coaches, who probably did rely on club directors prior to the rule change. They were committing 8th and 9th graders who were still physically developing, but now they have plenty of time to see the girls play after most of them are much closer to full athletic development, and the girls are more mature about their decisions.

4. The pressure is off young girls now, and a lot of power has been shifted from club directors to the players. I think club directors are feeling it, too. This is a good thing.

The rule change has gutted the players ability to evaluate these coaches, programs and schools. You may not see that until offers come on 9/1 of their junior year and the pressure to commit is immediate. How much interaction did your daughter have with the coaches, the athletic support staff, academic staff and a detailed tour and overview of the school before making this decision? If you have multiple offers, now you have to find time to make all those visits or make that decision blindly? This going on during your fall sports season in a critical academic time as well. Under the old system, parents and players willing to put in the work had all this done ahead of making a decision.

Oh, please. The process is the same, just in a shortened format. A format, let me be clear, that is pretty new in the recruitment world. Just 8 years ago players were <gasp> committing in their junior years and everyone was fine with that.

I also question the judgement skills of 14- and 15yos when evaluating their futures.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after going through the first summer under the recruiting rule change, what do you think the consequences are?

1. Think twice about spending money on expensive showcases this coming year. There was a massive drop in college coach attendance at some top 2020 (9th grade) showcases this summer, so expect the same next summer when the 2021s are that age. The 2018-2019 season will be the big one for the 2021s.

2. Consider whether to bother with too many college ID camps. The focus will be almost entirely on 2020s this coming year.

3. The importance of your club's prior relationships with college coaches is diminished now regardless how much bragging and boasting the club directors engage in. There will be much less guess work on the part of college coaches, who probably did rely on club directors prior to the rule change. They were committing 8th and 9th graders who were still physically developing, but now they have plenty of time to see the girls play after most of them are much closer to full athletic development, and the girls are more mature about their decisions.

4. The pressure is off young girls now, and a lot of power has been shifted from club directors to the players. I think club directors are feeling it, too. This is a good thing.

Plus, high school coaches could end up back in the equation. That would be interesting considering that quite a few of the club coaches are also high school coaches.

Great point about high school coaches being relevant again. They will have one or two seasons seeing how each player performs against older girls. At the strong high school programs, there are sometimes 10+ D1 commits among the juniors and seniors. Performing well playing with or against teams like that must help the future recruit.

Anything that takes power away from an arrogant club director is a great thing for the players. They aren't all bad, of course, but the bad ones are absolutely insufferable and bully the girls and parents into thinking that they can't do it without the club director's blessing. It's just not true anymore (and really was never true to begin with -- any girl at a great lax college got there on her own talent and ability).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

blah blah blah...funny how the only tournament that is age based, MD doesn't show up to, interesting.

Perhaps since MD is intellectual enough to have a club league that starts earlier, some families have their toes in the sand at OC "hun" or are eatin' crabs on the back deck instead of meandering through the dust bowl that is River City Sportsplex, playing teams where scores are double digit differentials and calling it a "National Chamionship"!

Cheers to whichever team wins the "National Championship"! That's like the team that wins the "Ice Cube 3 v 3" champion being called a "national champion." Today was a good day!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have

fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

blah blah blah...funny how the only tournament that is age based, MD doesn't show up to, interesting.

Perhaps since MD is intellectual enough to have a club league that starts earlier, some families have their toes in the sand at OC "hun" or are eatin' crabs on the back deck instead of meandering through the dust bowl that is River City Sportsplex, playing teams where scores are double digit differentials and calling it a "National Chamionship"!

Cheers to whichever team wins the "National Championship"! That's like the team that wins the "Ice Cube 3 v 3" champion being called a "national champion." Today was a good day!!!

So are you saying MD was not intellectual enough in the past when they would show up and get their butts kicked or did getting their butts kicked when playing on age make them "intellectual" enough not to go. Be careful I have found the ages of last years UA team and let's say some of the best players are just a little older .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI had all summer to win a tournament against MD teams. Last year too. National Champs!!! Too funny.

Since 5th grade M&D has won over 20 championships where all the top MD and LI teams attended. SW won all of them this summer. YJ won Lax for the Cure 2 years ago. That's it for LI. Ever. Have

fun travelling to Virginia to play each other so that you can say you are the best in the nation. Everyone else knows better.

Also, LI started grade based lacrosse, not MD. So stop crying about the age difference that really hardly exists in girls lacrosse to begin with.

blah blah blah...funny how the only tournament that is age based, MD doesn't show up to, interesting.

Perhaps since MD is intellectual enough to have a club league that starts earlier, some families have their toes in the sand at OC "hun" or are eatin' crabs on the back deck instead of meandering through the dust bowl that is River City Sportsplex, playing teams where scores are double digit differentials and calling it a "National Chamionship"!

Cheers to whichever team wins the "National Championship"! That's like the team that wins the "Ice Cube 3 v 3" champion being called a "national champion." Today was a good day!!!

So are you saying MD was not intellectual enough in the past when they would show up and get their butts kicked or did getting their butts kicked when playing on age make them "intellectual" enough not to go. Be careful I have found the ages of last years UA team and let's say some of the best players are just a little older .

What is there to "be careful" of? Hurting your feelings? We'll just let the a@@ kickins' do that. Please share your "411" on the dob.

The reality is that we have 20-30 clubs within 30 miles of each other that require competition to make a 20-22 player roster. Good luck withyour 23-27 girls on a team from a tri state area.

If I had a nickel for every LI that bitched about their kids team I would put it towards etiquette lessons for all of ya. Talk about losers!

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

What an [lacrosse]. Grow up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

Maybe you should look in a mirror and find out that no matter how good your daughter is at lacrosse, you're still an [lacrosse]

Well all you Liberty parents that talked so much crap all summer while your team hid in B tournaments finally figured out that YJ had an off day when you beat them?

So let me get this straight...LI teams dominate National Championship because no MD teams are there? MD teams are not there because it is an age based tournament and their 2021 rosters don't have many actual U14s?

The only competition YJ, TG and Liberty faced were each other and some would say the Liberty didn't give YJ any competition. So these 3 teams had to travel to VA to face each other, when they could do it in their own backyard. As for why other teams from all over the country pay to go there to be dominated by 3 LI teams is a mystery to me.

Am I missing something? Whole thing seems absurd.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

One girl, she was great but if you think that is why you lost 12-4 then you are fooling yourself. 12-4 was a gift, YJ could have picked the final score. Like I said back in June, Karma for your trash talk. How do you feel about the YJ draw group now that dominated today? By the way, U-14 event not 2021.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

Your 2021 team lost to liberty during the season. Now, YJ and TG both brought their full rosters plus a couple age eligible 2020s and want to brag, while Liberty showed up with their true 2021 roster. Say what you want but I'm pretty sure where I'd want my daughter if I lived on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

CR knew her draw girl(s), are some of the weakest in the age group, and replaced them with 2020's. Smart from a coaching standpoint. But that team doesn't win by that margin with their usual draw girl. They win less that 20% of the draws with their current draw girl.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

Your 2021 team lost to liberty during the season. Now, YJ and TG both brought their full rosters plus a couple age eligible 2020s and want to brag, while Liberty showed up with their true 2021 roster. Say what you want but I'm pretty sure where I'd want my daughter if I lived on LI.

Hey, what was the name of the tournament, U-14 National championship not 2021. YJ brought one girl, she was great, but really, that is your excuse for 12-4?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

CR knew her draw girl(s), are some of the weakest in the age group, and replaced them with 2020's. Smart from a coaching standpoint. But that team doesn't win by that margin with their usual draw girl. They win less that 20% of the draws with their current draw girl.

The young ladies taking the draw today for YJ were same as always. A single U-14 joined the team and was on the circle, not taking the draw. Check your invite, U-14 National championship not a 2021 tournament. Lose with some dignity...

You Liberty people are ridiculous . First off it was a U14 tournament , it's the reason it's unique as it eliminates the holdbacks . Second your Liberty club had brought age eligible players from the older grade for years and no one ever complained. Third , YJ had 1 2020 who did not take the draw .If you are going to post at least have a clue .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

Your 2021 team lost to liberty during the season. Now, YJ and TG both brought their full rosters plus a couple age eligible 2020s and want to brag, while Liberty showed up with their true 2021 roster. Say what you want but I'm pretty sure where I'd want my daughter if I lived on LI.

Hey moron it was a U14 tournament . Liberty has done the same in the past it's just that their 2020 team is atrocious .I guess you want your daughter playing on a B level club where she belongs , good for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

CR knew her draw girl(s), are some of the weakest in the age group, and replaced them with 2020's. Smart from a coaching standpoint. But that team doesn't win by that margin with their usual draw girl. They win less that 20% of the draws with their current draw girl.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, liberty won the draw battle in this game by a large margin but it didn't matter, they were way over matched on the field.

Great, she was whole team. She is one of the best 2020s around, so playing down she dominated in every way

This is her 3rd time at nationals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

CR knew her draw girl(s), are some of the weakest in the age group, and replaced them with 2020's. Smart from a coaching standpoint. But that team doesn't win by that margin with their usual draw girl. They win less that 20% of the draws with their current draw girl.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, liberty won the draw battle in this game by a large margin but it didn't matter, they were way over matched on the field.

And on the bench as yj had 16 girls who sat and watched

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened Liberty? Maybe you should play in real tournaments next summer so you can find out earlier that your team is a B team.

That's hilarious coming from a team that needed to bring a couple of sophomores to compete. CR really trusted her true 2021 team to win without the ringers.

CR knew her draw girl(s), are some of the weakest in the age group, and replaced them with 2020's. Smart from a coaching standpoint. But that team doesn't win by that margin with their usual draw girl. They win less that 20% of the draws with their current draw girl.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, liberty won the draw battle in this game by a large margin but it didn't matter, they were way over matched on the field.

The finals should have been YJ vs TG. Liberty was in the easier bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

TG was up 4-3 at half and once YJ got a lead they went into a 15 min stall. Close game... boring to watch.

“It never gets old,” Rose said. “This year’s group I’ll remember for their unselfishness. They always look to pass before scoring.”

12 goals, 5 assists

It is crazy that LI teams keep traveling to this tournament to play each other, when they can play on Long Island. Unfortunately the team directors can't play well in the sand box, and won't put the girls first, instead of their egos.
I challenge YJ, LIberty, TGuns, Elevate, Igloo, 91, etc, etc, etc to set up a REAL Long Island tournament (perhaps maybe 2 or 3 of them). No need to worry about Maryland. Unless they want to prove their metal, and venture further North than exit 7 on the Jersey Turnpike. If that's the case, by all means come.

The Nationals tournament is a great experience for all the teams. It is lopsided in terms of competition sometimes, but the fight, and dedication in every team is real. Don't take that away from the girls. They try their best every game.

As far as U-14 teams using Age appropriate 2020's on their roster..... as long as they complied with the age verification, when they were registered with US Lacrosse, than they were perfectly clear to play. Personally I don't know why Liberty didn't do that. It's been done that way for a few years now. It's no secret to anybody. I'm sure other U-14 teams besides YJ and TGuns used that option for their rosters. It was done in all the age groups this tournament.

Enjoy the Summer everybody. Get ready for Fall Ball......

What is going on with Bert's team (YJ Gold), what an embarrassing summer. Changes coming?

[quote=Anonymous]“It never gets old,” Rose said. “This year’s group I’ll remember for their unselfishness. They always look to pass before scoring.”

12 goals, 5 assists

I stand corrected

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Hmmm....sorry...Think you have that backwards. There are no players on yellow jackets 2021 that TG are interested in.......YJ way overrated. Have a great rest of summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on with Bert's team (YJ Gold), what an embarrassing summer. Changes coming?

Ask the goalie's mom. She seemed to have all the answers screaming on the sideline how the D sucks!

LOL while you are arguing there is one 2021 girl that's under your radar that's going to make a statement this year. Not on YJ or TG and not on a political team. So all you YJ bench A players could give your team a run for their money if you look elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

Now that's a funny statement.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

[quote=Anonymous]LOL while you are arguing there is one 2021 girl that's under your radar that's going to make a statement this year. Not on YJ or TG and not on a political team. So all you YJ bench A players could give your team a run for their money if you look elsewhere.[/quote

English please.

How many teams does Leg uh sea have in the 2021 group? Are they any good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on with Bert's team (YJ Gold), what an embarrassing summer. Changes coming?

Ask the goalie's mom. She seemed to have all the answers screaming on the sideline how the D sucks!

Ohhh baby, yep, know her. Rocky Point, right? Quite the reputation and a shame because her daughter is a good goalie and even better kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Hmmm....sorry...Think you have that backwards. There are no players on yellow jackets 2021 that TG are interested in.......YJ way overrated. Have a great rest of summer.

The real 2021 TG team is marginally better than its own B team and both would get handled by YJB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Hmmm....sorry...Think you have that backwards. There are no players on yellow jackets 2021 that TG are interested in.......YJ way overrated. Have a great rest of summer.

The real 2021 TG team is marginally better than its own B team and both would get handled by YJB

There were 3, not 6, 2020 players on the TG team and they are not the "best", they are 1the ones that were 4U eligible. Facts. Also, 2 top 2021 players missed tournament due to injury, the team you would have been better with them there.

The real 2021 team is more than marginally better than it's own B team. Not sure why some people think they are the authority when talking about 4 different teams. Especially 14 year old girls, get a life!

Actually the TG 2021 Purple team did play YJ A team, ehhh...we weren't too impressed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Hmmm....sorry...Think you have that backwards. There are no players on yellow jackets 2021 that TG are interested in.......YJ way overrated. Have a great rest of summer.

The real 2021 TG team is marginally better than its own B team and both would get handled by YJB

Reality- YJA also had 2020s so stop the babbling!
Reality- YJB lost and couldn't hold a 5 goal lead!!! They are in serious need of an over hall and based on their season would probable lose to both TGA and TGB.

Stop the nonsense. Most of the girls are friends. Some play on same teams and some play against each other on school teams etc. Was good game to watch. Talented girls on both teams. Both played fair and YJ came out on top. I'm sure most players would agree it was a good experience. All you trolls and $hit stirrers weren't even there. The proof of age is what should be the standard for all tournaments....but unfortunately wont happen. Congrats to all the age winners.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Hmmm....sorry...Think you have that backwards. There are no players on yellow jackets 2021 that TG are interested in.......YJ way overrated. Have a great rest of summer.

The real 2021 TG team is marginally better than its own B team and both would get handled by YJB

YJ B couldn't handle their own C team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Hmmm....sorry...Think you have that backwards. There are no players on yellow jackets 2021 that TG are interested in.......YJ way overrated. Have a great rest of summer.

The real 2021 TG team is marginally better than its own B team and both would get handled by YJB

There were 3, not 6, 2020 players on the TG team and they are not the "best", they are 1the ones that were 4U eligible. Facts. Also, 2 top 2021 players missed tournament due to injury, the team you would have been better with them there.

The real 2021 team is more than marginally better than it's own B team. Not sure why some people think they are the authority when talking about 4 different teams. Especially 14 year old girls, get a life!

Who cares. All the teams on LI are subpar.

--MD Teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Hmmm....sorry...Think you have that backwards. There are no players on yellow jackets 2021 that TG are interested in.......YJ way overrated. Have a great rest of summer.

The real 2021 TG team is marginally better than its own B team and both would get handled by YJB

There were 3, not 6, 2020 players on the TG team and they are not the "best", they are 1the ones that were 4U eligible. Facts. Also, 2 top 2021 players missed tournament due to injury, the team you would have been better with them there.

The real 2021 team is more than marginally better than it's own B team. Not sure why some people think they are the authority when talking about 4 different teams. Especially 14 year old girls, get a life![/quote

If you are going to state something and say fact you ought to have your facts straight. There were in fact 6 player from the 2020 team,remember there are still a few player who have played for both organizations. Who cares how old they were the game they played was challenging for both squads and was a fantastic game to watch. Both teams played extremely well and were a credit to their respective organizations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TG and YJ game was close. We'll see how many more of the TG girls get poached by YJ this off season.

It was close because TG had at least 6 of their best 2020s playing.
TG does have a strong 2020 group and those girls are not leaving.

There are no 2021 TG players YJ would be interested in. YJ needs one more stud Mid to put on the circle to work with the draw girl. The YJ 2020 player was the difference and highlighted what CR needs to address. She will find her and move another middy to D. Problem solved.

Hmmm....sorry...Think you have that backwards. There are no players on yellow jackets 2021 that TG are interested in.......YJ way overrated. Have a great rest of summer.

The real 2021 TG team is marginally better than its own B team and both would get handled by YJB

There were 3, not 6, 2020 players on the TG team and they are not the "best", they are 1the ones that were 4U eligible. Facts. Also, 2 top 2021 players missed tournament due to injury, the team you would have been better with them there.

The real 2021 team is more than marginally better than it's own B team. Not sure why some people think they are the authority when talking about 4 different teams. Especially 14 year old girls, get a life!

Who cares. All the teams on LI are subpar.

--MD Teams

Who cares, all the MD teams are subpar-- Skywalkers...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares, all the MD teams are subpar-- Skywalkers...

It's going to be fun watching you fall off your rocker in the fall. Ride it while ya can!