Boys 2025 - 5th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - US Lacrosse Community Forum

It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

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Any input on strong travel teams for the fall?
When do they announce coaches, Express, 91,or
Geese? Who is the best bang for your buck?

Here is my take:

Express - solid coaching with Channy at the helm. Very large team and playing time is limited if you're not on the first or second line. The first line gets all the love in games, 2nd line plays when they need a break and no one else sees the field. Nothing wrong with that as long as you know it going in and your kid is good enough to break into the top lines.

91 - train wreck last year for a variety of reasons, mostly related to the HC who is now gone. The 91 organization is making a major investment in coaching resources to right the ship. I see a lot of opportunities here as 91 is looking to shake things up and get back on track.

Geese - solid team that upgraded players last year putting them on top. Good coaching. I doubt much will change and any new player will really have to stand out at tryouts to make an impression. If it ain't broke don't fix it and Geese doesn't have much to fix.

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Any input on strong travel teams for the fall?
When do they announce coaches, Express, 91,or
Geese? Who is the best bang for your buck?

Here is my take:

Express - solid coaching with Channy at the helm. Very large team and playing time is limited if you're not on the first or second line. The first line gets all the love in games, 2nd line plays when they need a break and no one else sees the field. Nothing wrong with that as long as you know it going in and your kid is good enough to break into the top lines.

91 - train wreck last year for a variety of reasons, mostly related to the HC who is now gone. The 91 organization is making a major investment in coaching resources to right the ship. I see a lot of opportunities here as 91 is looking to shake things up and get back on track.

Geese - solid team that upgraded players last year putting them on top. Good coaching. I doubt much will change and any new player will really have to stand out at tryouts to make an impression. If it ain't broke don't fix it and Geese doesn't have much to fix.

Just want to dispute the "if it ain't broke" line. If you don't change a couple of kids each year, then you get passed by. If it ain't broke, you still gotta fix it. No matter what team it is.

Just take a look at 9d1's record last year and they can hardly be called a "train wreck". They also played Box all winter and had an awesome record. The new head coach, O'keefe along with Gillis and Mule will provide a stable environment for a great bunch of kids who are a strong core which has played together for 3 years. New facility being readied for the fall for practice for all teams. They don't keep 28-30 kids to have 15 of them keeping the bench warm either. Definitely a team worth taking a look at for learning great skills, conditioning, and team work.

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Just take a look at 9d1's record last year and they can hardly be called a "train wreck". They also played Box all winter and had an awesome record. The new head coach, O'keefe along with Gillis and Mule will provide a stable environment for a great bunch of kids who are a strong core which has played together for 3 years. New facility being readied for the fall for practice for all teams. They don't keep 28-30 kids to have 15 of them keeping the bench warm either. Definitely a team worth taking a look at for learning great skills, conditioning, and team work.

You can no go collect your fee for posting on behalf of Team 9d1 . . .

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Any input on strong travel teams for the fall?
When do they announce coaches, Express, 91,or
Geese? Who is the best bang for your buck?

Here is my take:

Express - solid coaching with Channy at the helm. Very large team and playing time is limited if you're not on the first or second line. The first line gets all the love in games, 2nd line plays when they need a break and no one else sees the field. Nothing wrong with that as long as you know it going in and your kid is good enough to break into the top lines.

91 - train wreck last year for a variety of reasons, mostly related to the HC who is now gone. The 91 organization is making a major investment in coaching resources to right the ship. I see a lot of opportunities here as 91 is looking to shake things up and get back on track.

Geese - solid team that upgraded players last year putting them on top. Good coaching. I doubt much will change and any new player will really have to stand out at tryouts to make an impression. If it ain't broke don't fix it and Geese doesn't have much to fix.

All those teams are good. And at this age there is a lot of teams still building and need new faces to improve. And my guess is 9! will likely add, Geese like any team will look to add, and Express will always adds. That's why they are doing the top team and an i between team. It seems these special arrangement teams never last more than a season. Maybe this one does. But it is only successful building a second team from bottom and moving up. Not the top and moving down. Parent egos cant process it and move on. And it usually takes commitment from the parents and coaches. 9! Warriors at the 2023 level is a prime example of a successful 2nd team.

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

You are correct: it is a "NO GO" for me with 9d1. Just an observer who is sharing an opinion. It appears you think your opinion is the only one that counts. Only time will tell!!

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Any input on strong travel teams for the fall?
When do they announce coaches, Express, 91,or
Geese? Who is the best bang for your buck?

Here is my take:

Express - solid coaching with Channy at the helm. Very large team and playing time is limited if you're not on the first or second line. The first line gets all the love in games, 2nd line plays when they need a break and no one else sees the field. Nothing wrong with that as long as you know it going in and your kid is good enough to break into the top lines.

91 - train wreck last year for a variety of reasons, mostly related to the HC who is now gone. The 91 organization is making a major investment in coaching resources to right the ship. I see a lot of opportunities here as 91 is looking to shake things up and get back on track.

Geese - solid team that upgraded players last year putting them on top. Good coaching. I doubt much will change and any new player will really have to stand out at tryouts to make an impression. If it ain't broke don't fix it and Geese doesn't have much to fix.

All those teams are good. And at this age there is a lot of teams still building and need new faces to improve. And my guess is 9! will likely add, Geese like any team will look to add, and Express will always adds. That's why they are doing the top team and an i between team. It seems these special arrangement teams never last more than a season. Maybe this one does. But it is only successful building a second team from bottom and moving up. Not the top and moving down. Parent egos cant process it and move on. And it usually takes commitment from the parents and coaches. 9! Warriors at the 2023 level is a prime example of a successful 2nd team.

Geese are trimming down the size of the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Any input on strong travel teams for the fall?
When do they announce coaches, Express, 91,or
Geese? Who is the best bang for your buck?

Here is my take:

Express - solid coaching with Channy at the helm. Very large team and playing time is limited if you're not on the first or second line. The first line gets all the love in games, 2nd line plays when they need a break and no one else sees the field. Nothing wrong with that as long as you know it going in and your kid is good enough to break into the top lines.

91 - train wreck last year for a variety of reasons, mostly related to the HC who is now gone. The 91 organization is making a major investment in coaching resources to right the ship. I see a lot of opportunities here as 91 is looking to shake things up and get back on track.

Geese - solid team that upgraded players last year putting them on top. Good coaching. I doubt much will change and any new player will really have to stand out at tryouts to make an impression. If it ain't broke don't fix it and Geese doesn't have much to fix.

All those teams are good. And at this age there is a lot of teams still building and need new faces to improve. And my guess is 9! will likely add, Geese like any team will look to add, and Express will always adds. That's why they are doing the top team and an i between team. It seems these special arrangement teams never last more than a season. Maybe this one does. But it is only successful building a second team from bottom and moving up. Not the top and moving down. Parent egos cant process it and move on. And it usually takes commitment from the parents and coaches. 9! Warriors at the 2023 level is a prime example of a successful 2nd team.

Geese are trimming down the size of the team.

Momma Goose had enough it seems

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Any input on strong travel teams for the fall?
When do they announce coaches, Express, 91,or
Geese? Who is the best bang for your buck?

Here is my take:

Express - solid coaching with Channy at the helm. Very large team and playing time is limited if you're not on the first or second line. The first line gets all the love in games, 2nd line plays when they need a break and no one else sees the field. Nothing wrong with that as long as you know it going in and your kid is good enough to break into the top lines.

91 - train wreck last year for a variety of reasons, mostly related to the HC who is now gone. The 91 organization is making a major investment in coaching resources to right the ship. I see a lot of opportunities here as 91 is looking to shake things up and get back on track.

Geese - solid team that upgraded players last year putting them on top. Good coaching. I doubt much will change and any new player will really have to stand out at tryouts to make an impression. If it ain't broke don't fix it and Geese doesn't have much to fix.

All those teams are good. And at this age there is a lot of teams still building and need new faces to improve. And my guess is 9! will likely add, Geese like any team will look to add, and Express will always adds. That's why they are doing the top team and an i between team. It seems these special arrangement teams never last more than a season. Maybe this one does. But it is only successful building a second team from bottom and moving up. Not the top and moving down. Parent egos cant process it and move on. And it usually takes commitment from the parents and coaches. 9! Warriors at the 2023 level is a prime example of a successful 2nd team.

Geese are trimming down the size of the team.

Momma Goose had enough it seems

It means a kid will have to stand on his head at tryouts to break into a team looking to trim numbers already. When you consider pre-tyrouts where some kids may already have a spot that arent on the team this year it will make it even harder.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

Please stop with the Mixed Nuts crap already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

Please stop with the Mixed Nuts crap already.

Best kids, best parents, worst gear!!!!! Lmao!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

Please stop with the Mixed Nuts crap already.

Undefeated!! Don't be a hater.

Because you played in B tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because you played in B tourneys.

Tell that to Channy, And lighten up and learn to laugh a little.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because you played in B tourneys.

They beat Channy back to back. Channy a B team? Haters gonna hate!

If your kid is good and hasn't played for a travel team before, go to 91 tryouts. Probably the most opportunity for spots with the most potential for improvement. Just my two cents. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because you played in B tourneys.

They beat Channy back to back. Channy a B team? Haters gonna hate!

Then why are you bragging about beating a B team, Mr lax?

Football is here now, its funny how some adults can't get enough of this shoot. Let it go already. It's over now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because you played in B tourneys.

They beat Channy back to back. Channy a B team? Haters gonna hate!

Then why are you bragging about beating a B team, Mr lax?

Notice the question mark? Moron.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because you played in B tourneys.

They beat Channy back to back. Channy a B team? Haters gonna hate!

Then why are you bragging about beating a B team, Mr lax?

Cause he hid his B level kid with a bunch of borrowed A players to win a championship and thinks that makes his kid good at lacrosse. He's not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid is good and hasn't played for a travel team before, go to 91 tryouts. Probably the most opportunity for spots with the most potential for improvement. Just my two cents. Good luck!

Another club [lacrosse]...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because you played in B tourneys.

They beat Channy back to back. Channy a B team? Haters gonna hate!

Then why are you bragging about beating a B team, Mr lax?

Notice the question mark? Moron.

Lol, name calling. Enjoy, coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

Please stop with the Mixed Nuts crap already.

Undefeated!! Don't be a hater.

Mix Nuts coaches should be the new coaches of 9D1. They are great at what they do, and their kids are studs!!

24 Major upgrades

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

Please stop with the Mixed Nuts crap already.

Undefeated!! Don't be a hater.

Mix Nuts coaches should be the new coaches of 9D1. They are great at what they do, and their kids are studs!!

More like Phil Jackson. Won with Jordan and Kobe. Put together a "non studs" and then measure their greatness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 Major upgrades

Like what?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 Major upgrades

I heard they lost some good kids. I also noticed the turnout at the tryouts were weak so I doubt major upgrades. Still a b team at best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 Major upgrades

Thanks Nick

Prices are getting ridiculous with these club teams , money grab.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Prices are getting ridiculous with these club teams , money grab.

Mass post across boards . . . ugh!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Any input on strong travel teams for the fall?
When do they announce coaches, Express, 91,or
Geese? Who is the best bang for your buck?

Here is my take:

Express - solid coaching with Channy at the helm. Very large team and playing time is limited if you're not on the first or second line. The first line gets all the love in games, 2nd line plays when they need a break and no one else sees the field. Nothing wrong with that as long as you know it going in and your kid is good enough to break into the top lines.

91 - train wreck last year for a variety of reasons, mostly related to the HC who is now gone. The 91 organization is making a major investment in coaching resources to right the ship. I see a lot of opportunities here as 91 is looking to shake things up and get back on track.

Geese - solid team that upgraded players last year putting them on top. Good coaching. I doubt much will change and any new player will really have to stand out at tryouts to make an impression. If it ain't broke don't fix it and Geese doesn't have much to fix.

All those teams are good. And at this age there is a lot of teams still building and need new faces to improve. And my guess is 9! will likely add, Geese like any team will look to add, and Express will always adds. That's why they are doing the top team and an i between team. It seems these special arrangement teams never last more than a season. Maybe this one does. But it is only successful building a second team from bottom and moving up. Not the top and moving down. Parent egos cant process it and move on. And it usually takes commitment from the parents and coaches. 9! Warriors at the 2023 level is a prime example of a successful 2nd team.

What do you mean an inbetween team? Will Express have an A, B & C team? Any other clubs doing this?

Hitmen 2025 is going to be the dark horse in this age group. This team will surprise people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hitmen 2025 is going to be the dark horse in this age group. This team will surprise people.

All teams that are good in the smaller clubs have a retention problem. Your best kids will eventually leave. That's why we have prices going up when the market is saturated with teams. Parents pay for the top clubs when they see what extra money buys them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hitmen 2025 is going to be the dark horse in this age group. This team will surprise people.

They can't even beat town teams and that's even when they have help from the 9d1 kids. They should just fold the hitmen program up. What a joke. Talk about waste of money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hitmen 2025 is going to be the dark horse in this age group. This team will surprise people.

They can't even beat town teams and that's even when they have help from the 9d1 kids. They should just fold the hitmen program up. What a joke. Talk about waste of money.

Sounds like you were just cut from the tryouts... Only town team that team lost to last year was an Islip team that can beat most teams that age.

Those players from 9d1 have played on that team before they were with the other one and only play lacrosse so they do multiple teams. I wouldn't put my kid through that but they do.

This team will be the dark horse of B not A...if anything.

There's a lot of money grabs out there that don't put a good product out. Especially B teams I know some B teams from big companies can beat a town team. Legacyyy charged there teams extra $125 a tournament sometimes $250 for 2. For a $1000 tournament where's the extra money go ??? MONEY GRAB !! Go outside Long Island tryouts are $40 $50 bucks .

Getting more expensive than ice hockey where ice time is a lot of money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hitmen 2025 is going to be the dark horse in this age group. This team will surprise people.

They can't even beat town teams and that's even when they have help from the 9d1 kids. They should just fold the hitmen program up. What a joke. Talk about waste of money.

Sounds like you were just cut from the tryouts... Only town team that team lost to last year was an Islip team that can beat most teams that age.

Those players from 9d1 have played on that team before they were with the other one and only play lacrosse so they do multiple teams. I wouldn't put my kid through that but they do.

This team will be the dark horse of B not A...if anything.

You got that right Katy Perry!!

Hitmen got smacked around by Huntington team 2 years ago. Same year at Blatant you dressed 91 Commack kids over kids that were on that 3/4 team and still didn't make the semifinals. Sounds like same guy telling us TB was dark horse team in the group

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hitmen got smacked around by Huntington team 2 years ago. Same year at Blatant you dressed 91 Commack kids over kids that were on that 3/4 team and still didn't make the semifinals. Sounds like same guy telling us TB was dark horse team in the group

Why would anyone be discussing two years ago? People are looking for information that matters.

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

LOL. Hands down, any kids that are good on the team will eventually leave looking to play on an elite team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

TB sucks plain and simple. Worst organization out there. Worst coaching. Its for kids who cant make or end up getting cur from the A teams and fall into clubs like TB. I would never have my kids play for Total [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

LOL. Hands down, any kids that are good on the team will eventually leave looking to play on an elite team.

TB coach needs his mouth washed out with soap and then a very tight gag placed over his face.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

TB sucks plain and simple. Worst organization out there. Worst coaching. Its for kids who cant make or end up getting cur from the A teams and fall into clubs like TB. I would never have my kids play for Total [lacrosse].

<yawn> The lax elitists frown upon any other clubs beneath them...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

I'm not too sure how it works, but I would guess to be the best team you need to win the tournaments that the best teams are playing in. Has that happened? No.....Ok, lets keep the TB talk down until that happens.

Nothing wrong with being a strong 2nd level team. Don't come here saying you're the best without having beaten the best.

Igloo is one of the top teams. That's a fact

Agreed with that post

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

TB sucks plain and simple. Worst organization out there. Worst coaching. Its for kids who cant make or end up getting cur from the A teams and fall into clubs like TB. I would never have my kids play for Total [lacrosse].

<yawn> The lax elitists frown upon any other clubs beneath them...

Based on the claim at the top of this discussion TB is the elite. Uhmmmm. I guess not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

got smacked around by Huntington team 2 years ago. Same year at Blatant you dressed 91 Commack kids over kids that were on that 3/4 team and still didn't make the semifinals. Sounds like same guy telling us TB was dark horse team in the group

Why would anyone be discussing two years ago? People are looking for information that matters.

They never even had a 3/4 mix team 2 years ago and have never had any commack kids in the program. Trust me I'm in commack they're too far for us here...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is one of the top teams. That's a fact

In the B division. Need better coaches and talent. Can not even come close to the top 3 A teams.scores and tournament wins prove it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

got smacked around by Huntington team 2 years ago. Same year at Blatant you dressed 91 Commack kids over kids that were on that 3/4 team and still didn't make the semifinals. Sounds like same guy telling us TB was dark horse team in the group

Why would anyone be discussing two years ago? People are looking for information that matters.

They never even had a 3/4 mix team 2 years ago and have never had any commack kids in the program. Trust me I'm in commack they're too far for us here...

Trust me commack kids aren't any help.ask blast.

COMMACK FAT GUY IS A JOKE HE IS COUSIN WITH 91 director that is why he is ther

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is one of the top teams. That's a fact

Stop A bunch of your kids keep going over to 24. HAHAHHHA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed with that post

YOUR AN IDIOT AS WELL

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

This is the week to join an elite team, hands down. The top three all have tryouts. Tryout now while you can and not in 7th or 8th grade when you missed the boat.why? In my opinion it is very beneficial to be with the clubs that are part of these now forming lax federations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tb is the best team in this age group. Hands down.

TB sucks plain and simple. Worst organization out there. Worst coaching. Its for kids who cant make or end up getting cur from the A teams and fall into clubs like TB. I would never have my kids play for Total [lacrosse].

<yawn> The lax elitists frown upon any other clubs beneath them...

Based on the claim at the top of this discussion TB is the elite. Uhmmmm. I guess not.

Totally missing the point of my comment . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is one of the top teams. That's a fact

Mixed Nuts is the top team in this age on LI. Face it people!! Its what the big clubs don't want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

That kid should have stayed. Going to Igloo was not an upgrade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

I do agree with worst Igloo kids going over to 24

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

24 will beat Igloo this year

all kids on mixed nuts play on the top clubs. they cant all play each other

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

24 will beat Igloo this year

Doubt it. tryouts numbers were weak. Igloo goalie much better and 24 lost a few of its best players one of which went to Igloo.

Don't get the comments who cares that they left. The problem is a lot is leaving. That's not a good sign. 1-2. Maybe. But 10-12. Not good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't get the comments who cares that they left. The problem is a lot is leaving. That's not a good sign. 1-2. Maybe. But 10-12. Not good.

They can go to a braveheart in the B division. Top notch lacrosse.
YEAH RIGHT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

all kids on mixed nuts play on the top clubs. they cant all play each other

All B clubs should be put a team together of their best kids to play the Mixed Nuts, I bet they still could not beat them. Some times you feel like a nut, some times you don't!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

24 will beat Igloo this year

Stop it MV you sound silly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

24 will beat Igloo this year

Stop it MV you sound silly

Exactly who it is. Lmao.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

COMMACK FAT GUY IS A JOKE HE IS COUSIN WITH 91 director that is why he is ther

I actually got his autograph few years back. Nice guy

Commack guy is a nice guy and son is a good kid. Kid wishes my son good luck every time we played them. Not too many opponents doing that at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

COMMACK FAT GUY IS A JOKE HE IS COUSIN WITH 91 director that is why he is ther

I actually got his autograph few years back. Nice guy

Who MV or Fat Commack guy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

COMMACK FAT GUY IS A JOKE HE IS COUSIN WITH 91 director that is why he is ther

I actually got his autograph few years back. Nice guy

Who MV or Fat Commack guy?

MV? Spell it out u [lacrosse]. And yes commack guy. Got a commack jersey signed for my kid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

24 will beat Igloo this year

Are you guys talking about the 24 team that played during halftime of Lizards game?

Any info about fl$ for this age group?

Very well run program with nice coaches but no where near worth the $$$. Team got rocked too often

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any info about fl$ for this age group?

Yes, STAY AWAY!! In less you like to throw money away?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any info about fl$ for this age group?

B level. About as good as the 2nd team on Express. They played 2 1 goal games and a tie. Tryout for Express tonight, top notch coaching and training there. A level you get Channel and 2nd team you get O'Reilly who is one the best trainer's around, especially in the younger grades. No drama either.

yes. looked AWESOME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

24 will beat Igloo this year

Are you guys talking about the 24 team that played during halftime of Lizards game?

Anyone have info on Bluefish for this age? Was there a team for this age this past season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have info on Bluefish for this age? Was there a team for this age this past season?

We played a lot of teams and never matched up against them at 2025. My opinion is stick with the bigger clubs. Their 2nd teams are usually better than the 2nd tier clubs A teams. Leggacee and Express have really good coaching and teams for their 2nd teams at this age. Probably because those the best teams in the age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any info about fl$ for this age group?

B level. About as good as the 2nd team on Express. They played 2 1 goal games and a tie. Tryout for Express tonight, top notch coaching and training there. A level you get Channel and 2nd team you get O'Reilly who is one the best trainer's around, especially in the younger grades. No drama either.

Express might have 3 teams this coming season.

If you are not looking to join the top 3 'A' clubs (being realistic unlike many here). What are some good, well run, nice parents B teams folks would recommend in Nassau area.

LI Sharks, Empire Nassau , Millon Force , Bengals

Icon very good coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any info about fl$ for this age group?

B level. About as good as the 2nd team on Express. They played 2 1 goal games and a tie. Tryout for Express tonight, top notch coaching and training there. A level you get Channel and 2nd team you get O'Reilly who is one the best trainer's around, especially in the younger grades. No drama either.

Express might have 3 teams this coming season.

Didn't have the numbers this evening for 3 teams. But a lot of good players were out there. Should be two very good teams.

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

HitMen will truly dominate...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are not looking to join the top 3 'A' clubs (being realistic unlike many here). What are some good, well run, nice parents B teams folks would recommend in Nassau area.

Shore2Shore Monday. Good coaching, plus some movement could have them B+ level team early on. They'll beat all of the other mentioned true B teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HitMen will truly dominate...

Thanks for the comic relief. I enjoy it along with the TB posts. Please keep posting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HitMen will truly dominate...

Turtles will destroy hitmen. Teams looking sick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any info about fl$ for this age group?

B level. About as good as the 2nd team on Express. They played 2 1 goal games and a tie. Tryout for Express tonight, top notch coaching and training there. A level you get Channel and 2nd team you get O'Reilly who is one the best trainer's around, especially in the younger grades. No drama either.

Express might have 3 teams this coming season.

2 and last chance to earn a spot is tomorrow.

Are you saying express is not a well run A or B team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are not looking to join the top 3 'A' clubs (being realistic unlike many here). What are some good, well run, nice parents B teams folks would recommend in Nassau area.

Shore2Shore Monday. Good coaching, plus some movement could have them B+ level team early on. They'll beat all of the other mentioned true B teams

Based on the 91 experience, I would be concerned first about Daddy ball. Also, be sure to ask about the workload and pin the Coach (now Director) down. The Coach bailed out during HS season and the kids were underprepared.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.

Just saw Channy this morning in South Hampton buying a New 60ft Yacht. He was very happy with turn out for his tryouts. What a nice man.

Channy has no time to be on a boat. hes at every tournament with the teams he coaches every weekend every state no time to be boating. his printing press is rolling and he is making sure it stays that way Haters gonna Hate. just your own jealously typing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.

Just saw Channy this morning in South Hampton buying a New 60ft Yacht. He was very happy with turn out for his tryouts. What a nice man.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HitMen will truly dominate...

Turtles will destroy hitmen. Teams looking sick.

As in pathetic. Not enough talent to go around at 2025.most of the talented players are on the top 3.keep drinking the kool aid from the turtles and the parents of those kids that could not make a true A team this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy has no time to be on a boat. hes at every tournament with the teams he coaches every weekend every state no time to be boating. his printing press is rolling and he is making sure it stays that way Haters gonna Hate. just your own jealously typing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.

Just saw Channy this morning in South Hampton buying a New 60ft Yacht. He was very happy with turn out for his tryouts. What a nice man.

Haha. True. He is always at practices and tournaments. Just another hater whose kid doesn't get any playing time on the A team.

For the person who said he counted 38 kids- you're full of crap and obviously was not there. Channy team alone has 32 kids. I was there and can say at least 55 kids. Maybe about 15 that were wearing helmets from other clubs or town teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy has no time to be on a boat. hes at every tournament with the teams he coaches every weekend every state no time to be boating. his printing press is rolling and he is making sure it stays that way Haters gonna Hate. just your own jealously typing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.

Just saw Channy this morning in South Hampton buying a New 60ft Yacht. He was very happy with turn out for his tryouts. What a nice man.

Haha. True. He is always at practices and tournaments. Just another hater whose kid doesn't get any playing time on the A team.

For the person who said he counted 38 kids- you're full of crap and obviously was not there. Channy team alone has 32 kids. I was there and can say at least 55 kids. Maybe about 15 that were wearing helmets from other clubs or town teams.

"Channy team alone has 32 kids" You say that like it's a good thing??! That Express has a penchant to field teams that are almost as large as a college roster is a problem for everyone but Channy as he collects his $.

Mixed Nuts would destroy the Turtle-heads

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy has no time to be on a boat. hes at every tournament with the teams he coaches every weekend every state no time to be boating. his printing press is rolling and he is making sure it stays that way Haters gonna Hate. just your own jealously typing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.

Just saw Channy this morning in South Hampton buying a New 60ft Yacht. He was very happy with turn out for his tryouts. What a nice man.

Haha. True. He is always at practices and tournaments. Just another hater whose kid doesn't get any playing time on the A team.

For the person who said he counted 38 kids- you're full of crap and obviously was not there. Channy team alone has 32 kids. I was there and can say at least 55 kids. Maybe about 15 that were wearing helmets from other clubs or town teams.

Plus that's not even counting the kids from Texas and the ones that were extended a private invite. We are stacked!! Number one look out here we come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are not looking to join the top 3 'A' clubs (being realistic unlike many here). What are some good, well run, nice parents B teams folks would recommend in Nassau area.

Shore2Shore Monday. Good coaching, plus some movement could have them B+ level team early on. They'll beat all of the other mentioned true B teams

Based on the 91 experience, I would be concerned first about Daddy ball. Also, be sure to ask about the workload and pin the Coach (now Director) down. The Coach bailed out during HS season and the kids were underprepared.

I second this. I'd be concerned whether this team is a priority. It was not a priority when he was at 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes. looked AWESOME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Worst Igloo kids went to 24. Best 24 kid went to Igloo. Hmmmmmmmmmm Is 24 trying to be the 2025s Tallest [lacrosse]?

24 will beat Igloo this year

Are you guys talking about the 24 team that played during halftime of Lizards game?

You are both fools as that was a younger team. Must be MV again touting his kid.

S2S. Team to watch out for. This year.

New head coach (O'Keefe), new indoor practice facility. Box lacrosse in the winter. This team is definitely a priority.

S2S is coached by the coach who quit 9d1. Hopefully, he took all the drama with him when he left. lol5tnnuy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mixed Nuts would destroy the Turtle-heads

Love it, they got a nickname already.. They don't even have a team yet but they got a nickname..LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New head coach (O'Keefe), new indoor practice facility. Box lacrosse in the winter. This team is definitely a priority.

New this, new that ... same parents = same crap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New head coach (O'Keefe), new indoor practice facility. Box lacrosse in the winter. This team is definitely a priority.

New this, new that ... same parents = same crap.

Jealousy gets you no where. Just because your stuck in the mud with your cloud dont hate. Haters going to hate. Not going to lie, kind of excited here.

Ok reef will be watching his kid play at penn state. He runs 45 minute practices. Just all window dressing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New head coach (O'Keefe), new indoor practice facility. Box lacrosse in the winter. This team is definitely a priority.

New this, new that ... same parents = same crap.

Jealousy gets you no where. Just because your stuck in the mud with your cloud dont hate. Haters going to hate. Not going to lie, kind of excited here.

Express parents don't know each other, let alone talk to each other. They just stand in line to praise almighty MC (Chucky)!!! No drama is laughable ... wait to another kids parents pays MC more $$$$ and kids on the first line move down... going to happen!!

All is well in goose land, NOT... Little attackman playing 2024 and 2025 makes everyone real happy. There are Geese parents that hate each other... can't wait for the drama to unfold with the WI crew when the new WI kid takes a starting middie spot. Should be interesting.

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Doesn't matter and who cares .... It's all about the little Golden Goose Attackman. Never practices and then never comes off the field. Forget about daddy ball, it's owner ball and he knows nothing about lacrosse!! Haha ... good luck you fools. Quack Quack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Doesn't matter and who cares .... It's all about the little Golden Goose Attackman. Never practices and then never comes off the field. Forget about daddy ball, it's owner ball and he knows nothing about lacrosse!! Haha ... good luck you fools. Quack Quack

Best part of this is that the Director is smart and made sure the older son is on 91. So his Chammy boy doesn't play for his own program or the catholic school feeder express, he plays for Mule and Turrini both now part of 91 2025. Can't make this stuff up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Doesn't matter and who cares .... It's all about the little Golden Goose Attackman. Never practices and then never comes off the field. Forget about daddy ball, it's owner ball and he knows nothing about lacrosse!! Haha ... good luck you fools. Quack Quack

And now they have angry WI daddy coach who's son is sure to grab a 1st line middie spot from another kid while ol' daddy boy works his way over to the coaching sideline. People wanna know who's coaching the Geese, huh? Give it time and you'll know. Good luck with all that!

Every team he's with seems to win. Boys are pretty great players. Pretty successful guy. I would and will follow him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Doesn't matter and who cares .... It's all about the little Golden Goose Attackman. Never practices and then never comes off the field. Forget about daddy ball, it's owner ball and he knows nothing about lacrosse!! Haha ... good luck you fools. Quack Quack

You talking about little attackman, the holdback? Owners son. Is a holdback and plays. Size ands speed starting to pass him by

Kids one of the best around. Get a hobby and stop talking about 10 year olds. Loser

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every team he's with seems to win. Boys are pretty great players. Pretty successful guy. I would and will follow him.

Guy is piece of garbage. Yes his kids are good players.they must take after the mom.he is the most arrogant person around and i definitely don't want him around my kid

Obviously your kid was cut from one of his teams. One of the best guys I know. Grow up and get a life.

Stay in connetquot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hitmen 2025 is going to be the dark horse in this age group. This team will surprise people.

They can't even beat town teams and that's even when they have help from the 9d1 kids. They should just fold the hitmen program up. What a joke. Talk about waste of money.

Sounds like you were just cut from the tryouts... Only town team that team lost to last year was an Islip team that can beat most teams that age.

Those players from 9d1 have played on that team before they were with the other one and only play lacrosse so they do multiple teams. I wouldn't put my kid through that but they do.

This team will be the dark horse of B not A...if anything.

You got that right Katy Perry!!

The ninedwon kids will not appear in any of those games this year. Fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.

Fake news it was 32 kids 3 goalies

I counted 38 kids[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.[/quote]

Fake news it was 32 kids 3 goalies
[/quote]

Ohhhhhh K. Maybe you need to have someone count from 32 up. Perhaps count again today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No chance Express has 3 teams unless they hold 7 more rounds of tryouts.... Numbers were very light tonight...

I counted 38 kids

I counted 51 with the goalies

Wow, 13 Goalies.

Fake news it was 32 kids 3 goalies

Idiot, it was 37 players 5 goalies learn how to watch numb nuts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Doesn't matter and who cares .... It's all about the little Golden Goose Attackman. Never practices and then never comes off the field. Forget about daddy ball, it's owner ball and he knows nothing about lacrosse!! Haha ... good luck you fools. Quack Quack

You talking about little attackman, the holdback? Owners son. Is a holdback and plays. Size ands speed starting to pass him by

Confirmed. He's a hold back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Great point by another post..... West Islip parents will destroy this team. No future for that team wit that leadership. Would never send my kid there to play even with Kuttin' selling ice to an Eskimo. That's funny that Kuttin's kid plays for 9D1. Wonder how he spins that.

We let a lot of things slide here but Mr. Anonymous from Commack talking about a 10 year old kid is not only unacceptable but is quite frankly pathetic. If I see another post about a player, you will be banned from this site.

Lots of talk about who's the best and who are terrible. Which coach is horrible and which team is pay to play.
How about we all play each other (at least once a season) instead of allowing our clubs to decide which tournaments we play. We all know our clubs avoid playing certain clubs.

I get the "business" aspect of 10 year old lacrosse, but the big bad parents on the sidelines, and this forum. pounding their chests need a reality check.

I want to look on Tourney Machine and see all the Bog Boys playing on same day on same field....
Geese
9d1
Express
Igloo
etc.

No Excuses!

Originally Posted by BOTCAdmin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Great point by another post..... West Islip parents will destroy this team. No future for that team wit that leadership. Would never send my kid there to play even with Kuttin' selling ice to an Eskimo. That's funny that Kuttin's kid plays for 9D1. Wonder how he spins that.

We let a lot of things slide here but Mr. Anonymous from Commack talking about a 10 year old kid is not only unacceptable but is quite frankly pathetic. If I see another post about a player, you will be banned from this site.

LOVE it!!! Call out these Anonymous punks that talk smack about 10 year old's. Nice JOB!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every team he's with seems to win. Boys are pretty great players. Pretty successful guy. I would and will follow him.

Is that the guy that played at Adelphi but tells everyone he played for Maryland or the other guy?

I smell a ***

HitMen 4life

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HitMen 4life

Worst Club Ever

Best bet is to wait until Dec to Tryout. Everyone will be posting what positions they need to fill roster. Probably will escape a Tryout fee and dreadful fall tournaments in the freezing weather. Also will get to read real reviews here on what teams are practicing or have too many kids etc

BOTCAdmin,
Why not just eliminate Anonymous posts and make posts come under screenames? That might get rid of some keyboard cowboys talking about kids. Just a thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTCAdmin,
Why not just eliminate Anonymous posts and make posts come under screenames? That might get rid of some keyboard cowboys talking about kids. Just a thought.

And where is your name on this post? Please be a volunteer, go ahead lead us from the darkness.

And then forget about getting legitimate, but possibly negative comments about the issues that may arise on any current team.

How do you decipher the legitimate posts among all the pages of inane comments about daddy coaches, mothers tramp stamps, etc. You cant have it both ways. Lacrosse is the only sport I've seen that has a message board like this. Travel hockey, football, etc. They get by alright. Some of the comments are informative. Some are funny. Most are ignorant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTCAdmin,
Why not just eliminate Anonymous posts and make posts come under screenames? That might get rid of some keyboard cowboys talking about kids. Just a thought.

Great question and thought.

We are actually going to be changing the 'permissions' so that everyone that posts either has to have a screen name like you suggested or at the very least, myself & BOTC moderators will know who the Anonymous poster is to help filter what some of these folks say. Thoughts on those proposals anyone? Your feedback is important to us.

Great idea, yesterday you listed a town where someone posted from or is regeistered to. I live in that town and never posted any of that insulting garbage. I'm not a fan of insulting people anonymous and anyone who insults kids should be punched in the face. My feedback is post people names, emails, phone codes, anything that can identify the people doing this. My name is Lou and I live in commack.

Lou, appreciate the feedback and keeping your posts clean. Thank you, Tom

Originally Posted by BOTCAdmin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTCAdmin,
Why not just eliminate Anonymous posts and make posts come under screenames? That might get rid of some keyboard cowboys talking about kids. Just a thought.

Great question and thought.

We are actually going to be changing the 'permissions' so that everyone that posts either has to have a screen name like you suggested or at the very least, myself & BOTC moderators will know who the Anonymous poster is to help filter what some of these folks say. Thoughts on those proposals anyone? Your feedback is important to us.

I think the dialogue is better anon. But it's catch 22 because you get a lot of nonsense when it's complete anon. Maybe a site logon with anon posts. That way maybe it's self policing. I want to hear feedback, both good and bad and that works better anon. However, when it's good, somebody feels a need to cut it down and when it's bad, the comments can go over the top.

Originally Posted by BOTCAdmin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTCAdmin,
Why not just eliminate Anonymous posts and make posts come under screenames? That might get rid of some keyboard cowboys talking about kids. Just a thought.

Great question and thought.

We are actually going to be changing the 'permissions' so that everyone that posts either has to have a screen name like you suggested or at the very least, myself & BOTC moderators will know who the Anonymous poster is to help filter what some of these folks say. Thoughts on those proposals anyone? Your feedback is important to us.

I don't see the point in the screen name.... if someone is a loser troll, theyll just post under some non-descript name that doesn't identify them.

I'd rather see BOTC embarrass the posters who put out the tough guy/derogatory comments

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by BOTCAdmin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTCAdmin,
Why not just eliminate Anonymous posts and make posts come under screenames? That might get rid of some keyboard cowboys talking about kids. Just a thought.

Great question and thought.

We are actually going to be changing the 'permissions' so that everyone that posts either has to have a screen name like you suggested or at the very least, myself & BOTC moderators will know who the Anonymous poster is to help filter what some of these folks say. Thoughts on those proposals anyone? Your feedback is important to us.

I don't see the point in the screen name.... if someone is a loser troll, theyll just post under some non-descript name that doesn't identify them.

I'd rather see BOTC embarrass the posters who put out the tough guy/derogatory comments

I agree with you both - it's a double edge sword per se' but if we were to change the permissions and make everyone register with a display name/screen name, we would hope this would stop the derogatory comments but still allow people to share their experiences and opinions as this is your 5th amendment right but if there is a post attacking a child, making false accusations, defaming a person/company, etc., we then will know who the poster is and take action accordingly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Doesn't matter and who cares .... It's all about the little Golden Goose Attackman. Never practices and then never comes off the field. Forget about daddy ball, it's owner ball and he knows nothing about lacrosse!! Haha ... good luck you fools. Quack Quack

You talking about little attackman, the holdback? Owners son. Is a holdback and plays. Size ands speed starting to pass him by

Confirmed. He's a hold back.

Less Taz more Geese fake in in the future

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for the Geese this year??
Any changes??Tryouts next week

Doesn't matter and who cares .... It's all about the little Golden Goose Attackman. Never practices and then never comes off the field. Forget about daddy ball, it's owner ball and he knows nothing about lacrosse!! Haha ... good luck you fools. Quack Quack

You talking about little attackman, the holdback? Owners son. Is a holdback and plays. Size ands speed starting to pass him by

Confirmed. He's a hold back.

Less Taz more Geese fake in in the future

Is it true that a child of a Legacy owner doesn't even play FOR legacy? Can you explain why>> No bias answer No trouble- Just asking

Originally Posted by laxlol

Is it true that a child of a Legacy owner doesn't even play FOR legacy? Can you explain why>> No bias answer No trouble- Just asking

i know of the person you are referring to and he is not an owner. Secondly, have you ever considered the player does not want to play with his father?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlol

Is it true that a child of a Legacy owner doesn't even play FOR legacy? Can you explain why>> No bias answer No trouble- Just asking

i know of the person you are referring to and he is not an owner. Secondly, have you ever considered the player does not want to play with his father?

I have not considered NOR would I speculate a thing, therefore I ask. I don't know the player or the family. It was an honest question-in search of an honest reason......
so IF you are saying the child does not want to play for his father - thank you for answering....

Originally Posted by laxlol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlol

Is it true that a child of a Legacy owner doesn't even play FOR legacy? Can you explain why>> No bias answer No trouble- Just asking

i know of the person you are referring to and he is not an owner. Secondly, have you ever considered the player does not want to play with his father?

I have not considered NOR would I speculate a thing, therefore I ask. I don't know the player or the family. It was an honest question-in search of an honest reason......
so IF you are saying the child does not want to play for his father - thank you for answering....

I do not now the reason - I was just proposing a potential reason why a son would not want to play for his father. Albanys Head Coach Scott Marr son plays for Hopkins so I know of many players who prefer to not play or be coached by their parents. I apologize if you interpreted my response in a negative way

Does anyone know when the True Blue tryouts are can't find the information on their website

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlol

Is it true that a child of a Legacy owner doesn't even play FOR legacy? Can you explain why>> No bias answer No trouble- Just asking

i know of the person you are referring to and he is not an owner. Secondly, have you ever considered the player does not want to play with his father?

More likely the young man is of recruiting age (he is) and his father knows the limited exposure his son will get playing for Legacy. It's not like his dad actually coaches. I doubt the argument that he doesn't want to play for his dad has any validity. Most importantly, "eating your own dog food" mean you believe in your product. Clearly, not the case here.

He's a 2018 and Legacy does not have a team in that age group. Pretty simple

Yes,the fat bankroller's older son plays 91. The kid is nasty and 91 offers a much better team for his age

There is actually a second legacy owner son who also does not play for the program. His son did not make the A-Team and was too talented for the B team. Imo it's nice that legacy did not take an owner son on a team just because he was the owner

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlol

Is it true that a child of a Legacy owner doesn't even play FOR legacy? Can you explain why>> No bias answer No trouble- Just asking

i know of the person you are referring to and he is not an owner. Secondly, have you ever considered the player does not want to play with his father?

I have not considered NOR would I speculate a thing, therefore I ask. I don't know the player or the family. It was an honest question-in search of an honest reason......
so IF you are saying the child does not want to play for his father - thank you for answering....

I do not now the reason - I was just proposing a potential reason why a son would not want to play for his father. Albanys Head Coach Scott Marr son plays for Hopkins so I know of many players who prefer to not play or be coached by their parents. I apologize if you interpreted my response in a negative way

My the kid isnt good enough to be on the team. Maybe the team isnt any good the boy has opportunity on a better team.

Blast is fallIng apart!!!!!!!!!!

Rankings

Geese
Express
Blast
Igloo
Everyone else

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blast is fallIng apart!!!!!!!!!!

The 50 kids at the 2025 tryouts on Wednesday didn't get that memo.

That's because everyone owes they have a chance to make that team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings

Geese
Express
Blast
Igloo
Everyone else

Pretty tough to rank since they will never play each other.

Just another hater of 9d1. What a shame.....they are such a nice bunch of kids.

"Blast is falling apart" is pretty random at best. To what are you referring?

You're ridiculous. Stop the insanity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know when the True Blue tryouts are can't find the information on their website

They have already held their tryouts, which is why they are not posted on their site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings

Geese
Express
Blast
Igloo
Everyone else

Mixed Nuts head and shoulder above all these

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings

Geese
Express
Blast
Igloo
Everyone else

Mixed Nuts head and shoulder above all these

You keep touting it, if any kids are on any of the teams listed above, it means nothing. The team is an all star team. Go play Dukes Nationals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings

Geese
Express
Blast
Igloo
Everyone else

Mixed Nuts head and shoulder above all these

Where does this team practice? I can't find their website or tryout info? Who are the coaches?

Oh, that's right. They don't practice because they're not a real team. There is no website or tryout because it's not a real team. The coaches are two jerkoffs that have never played lacrosse at any level and are just forcing their kids to play more lacrosse than they need too.

Coach, please go away with this garbage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings

Geese
Express
Blast
Igloo
Everyone else

Mixed Nuts head and shoulder above all these

Where does this team practice? I can't find their website or tryout info? Who are the coaches?

Oh, that's right. They don't practice because they're not a real team. There is no website or tryout because it's not a real team. The coaches are two jerkoffs that have never played lacrosse at any level and are just forcing their kids to play more lacrosse than they need too.

Coach, please go away with this garbage.

Its arcually3 jerkoffs,
Get it straight. Its a real team that is gaining traction for the year Old teams should watch uout

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

That's 60 A level players for Channy to develop. He will generously offer each young man a spot and will likely start with two teams of about 22 or 23. Then he will collect about 3500 bucks each and get started on his two A team world dominance plan!

Throughout the year Channy will recruit and add and add and add more A (and A+) players from across the world to the rosters until the sidelines at tournaments look like Times Square at rush hour. Don't complain as you don't want to get kicked off the Train!

Last step of the plan is making a third team of A+ players once the total signed up gets to around 70 ! There you have it, The prediction here is that Express will have three teams in this grade by next summer. It will be a great experience, I can assure you, In Channy we trust!

Oh, did I forget the part where he laughs his way to the bank?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

Who would make their son play down at this age just to be the best? You are better off playing your own age and good competition then playing on an A team a grade beneath. Plus what kid wants to say that they play down? How embarrassing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

That's 60 A level players for Channy to develop. He will generously offer each young man a spot and will likely start with two teams of about 22 or 23. Then he will collect about 3500 bucks each and get started on his two A team world dominance plan!

Throughout the year Channy will recruit and add and add and add more A (and A+) players from across the world to the rosters until the sidelines at tournaments look like Times Square at rush hour. Don't complain as you don't want to get kicked off the Train!

Last step of the plan is making a third team of A+ players once the total signed up gets to around 70 ! There you have it, The prediction here is that Express will have three teams in this grade by next summer. It will be a great experience, I can assure you, In Channy we trust!

Oh, did I forget the part where he laughs his way to the bank?

A lot of choices out there, have at it and have great season. I personally am looking forward to next 10 months and having my son playing for the Express. In my opinion they offer great coaching at this age and great training. Is it free, no. But if I don't like the cost or anything else, I am free to go elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings

Geese
Express
Blast
Igloo
Everyone else

Mixed Nuts head and shoulder above all these

Where does this team practice? I can't find their website or tryout info? Who are the coaches?

Oh, that's right. They don't practice because they're not a real team. There is no website or tryout because it's not a real team. The coaches are two jerkoffs that have never played lacrosse at any level and are just forcing their kids to play more lacrosse than they need too.

Coach, please go away with this garbage.

Its arcually3 jerkoffs,
Get it straight. Its a real team that is gaining traction for the year Old teams should watch uout

The coaches put the team together because their kids don't play on their real teams. This was the only way to make sure they get enough playing time. Basically, this team is a product of a couple of dads that won't accept the fact that their kids just are not nearly as good as they think they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He's a 2018 and Legacy does not have a team in that age group. Pretty simple

Sounds clear and cut to me!
Thank you
What a simple response .
Makes complete sense

Word is Geese have a lot of numbers at their tryouts tomorrow

How many were at 91 and express?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many were at 91 and express?

Expected more at Express. But it was around 60.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many were at 91 and express?

Expected more at Express. But it was around 60.

And invitations are out, be sure to count heads at practice, and expect to get to 25. Then pay attention because if your boy isn't in the top 15, plan on Johnnie being a practice dummy.

Plenty of good kids don't get to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many were at 91 and express?

Expected more at Express. But it was around 60.

And invitations are out, be sure to count heads at practice, and expect to get to 25. Then pay attention because if your boy isn't in the top 15, plan on Johnnie being a practice dummy.

Plenty of good kids don't get to play.

Plenty of parents just chasing t shirts for their kids.pay 3k plus per year for a couple of t shirts. Lmao

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many were at 91 and express?

Expected more at Express. But it was around 60.

And invitations are out, be sure to count heads at practice, and expect to get to 25. Then pay attention because if your boy isn't in the top 15, plan on Johnnie being a practice dummy.

Plenty of good kids don't get to play.

Plenty of parents just chasing t shirts for their kids.pay 3k plus per year for a couple of t shirts. Lmao

Specially with Channy coaching the A team. He only plays the first line 90% of the game. Now he even has reclassified kids. Your son won't see the field. Enjoy your T-shirt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many were at 91 and express?

About 60 at Express and same or a little less at 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

He took 2x from Express A and 1x form Express B. All are 2024 grad years. It's the Channy way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

He took 2x from Express A and 1x form Express B. All are 2024 grad years. It's the Channy way.

Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

He took 2x from Express A and 1x form Express B. All are 2024 grad years. It's the Channy way.

Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Blast is doing the same thing. 2 midfielders from 2024 have reclassed and are playing with Blast. I guess the new coaches were instructed to win. Pathetic, but that's the new way of lacrosse.

Anybody have any suggestions regarding club lacrosse and goalies ? Is it worth playing club for a goalie or just doing something more focused like Breakout ?

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

He took 2x from Express A and 1x form Express B. All are 2024 grad years. It's the Channy way.

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Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Blast is doing the same thing. 2 midfielders from 2024 have reclassed and are playing with Blast. I guess the new coaches were instructed to win. Pathetic, but that's the new way of lacrosse.

But the kids would have to repeat a grade at school to do it. What parents are doing that at this age? And what kid would want to do that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

He took 2x from Express A and 1x form Express B. All are 2024 grad years. It's the Channy way.

Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Blast is doing the same thing. 2 midfielders from 2024 have reclassed and are playing with Blast. I guess the new coaches were instructed to win. Pathetic, but that's the new way of lacrosse.

There are no hold backs on Blast. We do have a 2026 and he's fantastic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

He took 2x from Express A and 1x form Express B. All are 2024 grad years. It's the Channy way.

Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Blast is doing the same thing. 2 midfielders from 2024 have reclassed and are playing with Blast. I guess the new coaches were instructed to win. Pathetic, but that's the new way of lacrosse.

Yes heard Blast was bringing down some of the Crush players to play this year. You people are dumb [lacrosse]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous

Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Blast is doing the same thing. 2 midfielders from 2024 have reclassed and are playing with Blast. I guess the new coaches were instructed to win. Pathetic, but that's the new way of lacrosse.

But the kids would have to repeat a grade at school to do it. What parents are doing that at this age? And what kid would want to do that? [/quote]

You must be new to this if you don't think parents are crazy. There are a lot of reasons parents do it, not the least of which is to give their son an advantage over other kids. But, besides that, it could be done for academic reasons or the family simply moved to a new town (which was the case with the Blast kids) and the parents had them repeat a grade. It's far more common than you think. Wait till next year when 40+ kids that your boy is playing with now repeat 5th grade because the parents fell that they're "not ready for middle school". It's becoming a joke, but a joke that is far too common. Especially if the LI teams want to stay competitive with the out of state teams and the Dukes Nationals,True Nationals, etc... that grab kids from virtually anywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

If the sport ever gets itself together, it will be age based across the board, at least for pre-HS age . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

If the sport ever gets itself together, it will be age based across the board, at least for pre-HS age . . .

AMEN!!!!

Agreed

Hold backs can't participate in the WSYL then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

Local lacrosse is grade based so if your son is in 6th grade he can not play 2025 within the rules. That is just a FACT. This WSYL argument is just made up facts to support cheating if the original post about Express is true. If this is what any team is doing then it has to be called out by all of the others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Blast is doing the same thing. 2 midfielders from 2024 have reclassed and are playing with Blast. I guess the new coaches were instructed to win. Pathetic, but that's the new way of lacrosse.

But the kids would have to repeat a grade at school to do it. What parents are doing that at this age? And what kid would want to do that?

You must be new to this if you don't think parents are crazy. There are a lot of reasons parents do it, not the least of which is to give their son an advantage over other kids. But, besides that, it could be done for academic reasons or the family simply moved to a new town (which was the case with the Blast kids) and the parents had them repeat a grade. It's far more common than you think. Wait till next year when 40+ kids that your boy is playing with now repeat 5th grade because the parents fell that they're "not ready for middle school". It's becoming a joke, but a joke that is far too common. Especially if the LI teams want to stay competitive with the out of state teams and the Dukes Nationals,True Nationals, etc... that grab kids from virtually anywhere.[/quote

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

If the sport ever gets itself together, it will be age based across the board, at least for pre-HS age . . .

AMEN!!!!

We can only hope they go to an aged based system. Until then my friends, any 6th grader playing 2025 is a cheater.

Not happening....ever!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hold backs can't participate in the WSYL then.

A current holdback in 6th grade can . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

If the sport ever gets itself together, it will be age based across the board, at least for pre-HS age . . .

AMEN!!!!

We can only hope they go to an aged based system. Until then my friends, any 6th grader playing 2025 is a cheater.
[/quote]

Unless they are reclassed/held back, in which case they are a 2025 grad year and completely within the current rules.

A hold back can absolutely participate in the WSYL. As a matter of fact, 8th graders play with the 7th grade teams every year. As long as their birthday is after 9/1. Word is they are going to change the date to 7/1 to get more interest from the Maryland clubs.

Arguing about holdbacks? Nothing better to do? Its clear and evident. Holdbacks are kids who were middle of pack at their own age group. When dropped down, they are at top of food chain. Make parents feel more proud that they can brag about little jonny. To me its insane unless its adevelopmental thing but that is usually spotted early on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A hold back can absolutely participate in the WSYL. As a matter of fact, 8th graders play with the 7th grade teams every year. As long as their birthday is after 9/1. Word is they are going to change the date to 7/1 to get more interest from the Maryland clubs.

Any human being of the face of the earth can participate so long as he or she was born on or after the cut off date. They can be Doogie Howser and be in college; they can be a 7 time holdback and be in kindergarten; they can be home schooled by a religious cult. Its very simple, and its how most other youth sports organize themselves. No one cares what grade a kid is in.

WSYL should emulate the LLWS (which they openly try to do) by making a player eligible only once. For LLWS, only LL age 12s are allowed to participate. You can be the best player in the world, but if you are a LL age 11, than you can't play. Everyone has their one year to go - if their team makes it. So, the WSYL should settle on 9/1 or 7/1 or 1/1, and stick with it. Than for each year, eligibility will be for kids born on or after the cut off date, but before the cut off date one year hence. The clubs should then be permitted to bring a team to qualifiers and Denver (if they make it) consisting of kids who are bonafide members of the club, no matter what team within the club they are on. So a holdback heavy club can pull kids from say 2023 and 2024. Basically, make it an allstar team from within the club of all kids born within that years 12 month window. For the next year, it will the next successive 12 month window, and so on. All kids will be eligible to play once and only once - if they are good enough to make their club's team, and if such team qualifies.

You won't be getting too many of them most kids graduating in 2025 are born in 2007 so any holdback born prior to September 1st 2006 won't be able to participate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

If the sport ever gets itself together, it will be age based across the board, at least for pre-HS age . . .

AMEN!!!!

We can only hope they go to an aged based system. Until then my friends, any 6th grader playing 2025 is a cheater.

Unless they are reclassed/held back, in which case they are a 2025 grad year and completely within the current rules.[/quote]

So then they would not be in 6th grade then would they? They would still be in 5th if they are actually reclassed, not fantasy land, pretend reclassed. so if on September 1 of this year, they are in 5th grade then we have to suck it up. If a kid is in 6th grade then its just cheating and we can all go nuts at the first Tournament and see if the organizers have any cajones.

Correct, which only serves to illustrate how stupid grade based. Same kid - same speed, intelligence, athleticism, experience, skill, maturity, etc. But he gets to play at one level in youth lacrosse vs another level simply because he is in Ms. Jones' 5th grade class instead of Ms. Smith's 6th grade class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear from the Express yet? Couldn't been too hard with 50-60 kids at tryouts.

Your not counting the 2024 kids reclassifying.
Channy is building a sick team

He took 2x from Express A and 1x form Express B. All are 2024 grad years. It's the Channy way.

Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Blast is doing the same thing. 2 midfielders from 2024 have reclassed and are playing with Blast. I guess the new coaches were instructed to win. Pathetic, but that's the new way of lacrosse.

Not true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous

Do you mean he took 3 kids from the 2024 express teams and put them on the 2025 express Channy team for the 17-18 season? Were these kids playing up in the past or actually repeating a grade in order to play down?

Blast is doing the same thing. 2 midfielders from 2024 have reclassed and are playing with Blast. I guess the new coaches were instructed to win. Pathetic, but that's the new way of lacrosse.

But the kids would have to repeat a grade at school to do it. What parents are doing that at this age? And what kid would want to do that?

You must be new to this if you don't think parents are crazy. There are a lot of reasons parents do it, not the least of which is to give their son an advantage over other kids. But, besides that, it could be done for academic reasons or the family simply moved to a new town (which was the case with the Blast kids) and the parents had them repeat a grade. It's far more common than you think. Wait till next year when 40+ kids that your boy is playing with now repeat 5th grade because the parents fell that they're "not ready for middle school". It's becoming a joke, but a joke that is far too common. Especially if the LI teams want to stay competitive with the out of state teams and the Dukes Nationals,True Nationals, etc... that grab kids from virtually anywhere.[/quote]

Two kids moving to Blast from another town??!?!! AWESOME!!! I hope they are moving from Texas!

Who are the coaches for Legacy's 2025 teams this year?

So basically if you weren't a first line middie on Blast, you're getting bumped by two older kids? That's pretty unfair. But I guess it's the 91 way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

Local lacrosse is grade based so if your son is in 6th grade he can not play 2025 within the rules. That is just a FACT. This WSYL argument is just made up facts to support cheating if the original post about Express is true. If this is what any team is doing then it has to be called out by all of the others.

That sounds absolutely insane!!!Go nuts? Let's put things in perspective- These boys are playing with other boys of the SAME AGE! That would make you go nuts??? And lets be honest most of the 2025 A team players are hold backs anyway.(not all but most). Who cares what grade they are in? As far as rules are concerned ,the only rule I see in USA Lacrosse states Sept.1st as a cutoff date

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically if you weren't a first line middie on Blast, you're getting bumped by two older kids? That's pretty unfair. But I guess it's the 91 way

It is pretty sad you feel the need to spread untrue stories. There are no kids moving down to Blast. Complete lie.

How can anyone have a problem with kids playing age based?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically if you weren't a first line middie on Blast, you're getting bumped by two older kids? That's pretty unfair. But I guess it's the 91 way

Stop with the BS. Fake news. No truth to this whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can anyone have a problem with kids playing age based?

Lets start with one of the owners of Legacy since his son is a 2025 hold back. You won't see them go age based any time soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can anyone have a problem with kids playing age based?

Lets start with one of the owners of Legacy since his son is a 2025 hold back. You won't see them go age based any time soon.

Making an principled argument about age- versus grade -based is separate from whether a club will change to age-based or not. When the whole sport goes age-based, the holdback (for athletic reasons) goes away on its own . . . I suspect that that transition will not happen soon enough for a current 5th/6th grader, but for those a coiple years younger it will, and the clubs will effect those changes to their programs accordingly. It won't be cut and dry.

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

Local lacrosse is grade based so if your son is in 6th grade he can not play 2025 within the rules. That is just a FACT. This WSYL argument is just made up facts to support cheating if the original post about Express is true. If this is what any team is doing then it has to be called out by all of the others.

That sounds absolutely insane!!!Go nuts? Let's put things in perspective- These boys are playing with other boys of the SAME AGE! That would make you go nuts??? And lets be honest most of the 2025 A team players are hold backs anyway.(not all but most). Who cares what grade they are in? As far as rules are concerned ,the only rule I see in USA Lacrosse states Sept.1st as a cutoff date

So the kid will be a grade ahead and several mints older. That's funny if you think that works. It's called playing down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can anyone have a problem with kids playing age based?

January 1 to January 1 is fine with me. But as long as everyone is doing it on the same basis. My sons sign up paperwork says 2025. It doesn't work when you and Channy double secret adopt age based with your on convenient date so you can play kids down.

Gutless cheating.

It's already happening. Might as well get with the program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series of youth lacrosse is age based so for players in 2024 graduating year born 9/1/06 or later they can technically participate with the 2025 teams.

Now that is interesting. Was not aware of that. I thought lacrosse was simply grade based and there were no age stipulations.

Local lacrosse is grade based so if your son is in 6th grade he can not play 2025 within the rules. That is just a FACT. This WSYL argument is just made up facts to support cheating if the original post about Express is true. If this is what any team is doing then it has to be called out by all of the others.

That sounds absolutely insane!!!Go nuts? Let's put things in perspective- These boys are playing with other boys of the SAME AGE! That would make you go nuts??? And lets be honest most of the 2025 A team players are hold backs anyway.(not all but most). Who cares what grade they are in? As far as rules are concerned ,the only rule I see in USA Lacrosse states Sept.1st as a cutoff date

So the kid will be a grade ahead and several mints older. That's funny if you think that works. It's called playing down.

Grade ahead yes. But the same age! In some case months older , most cases, the better kids (hold backs) the same age- born in 2006 after sept 1st..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

The owners son on Legacy is going into 5th grade but should be in 6th. That's a hold back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

The owners son on Legacy is going into 5th grade but should be in 6th. That's a hold back.

But that's ok by the rules. As bad as they are. The "they are almost the same age" arguement doesn't hold. So argue for this all you want cheater dad, I know my on age son will be pointing out your son on the field and at school.

Is the soon to be maybe superstar going to play down on PAL too?

How can he be a coach for blast when he is still playing college ball?another coach that will show up when he feels like it.false advertising if you ask me

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can mac okeefe be a coach for blast when he is still playing college ball?another coach that will show up when he feels like it.false advertising if you ask me

I hear he is a very fast runner!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can mac okeefe be a coach for blast when he is still playing college ball?another coach that will show up when he feels like it.false advertising if you ask me

I hear he is a very fast runner!

Is this even necessary, insulting a college kid??? Really??
Clearly there are three other coaches listed. He is not the head coach. And the head coach is his dad. So since he is a young experienced talented college lacrosse player, he can only add to the training atmosphere for the boys whenever he is available. How is it not worthwhile to incorporate him into the program if he is willing and interested in helping to train the boys when he can alongside his dad.
That deserves criticism???
As adults we should all know when to refrain from these inconsiderate comments. Is that too much to ask? We can debate issues and provide information within the forum in a respectful way without insults.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can mac okeefe be a coach for blast when he is still playing college ball?another coach that will show up when he feels like it.false advertising if you ask me

I hear he is a very fast runner!

Real Fast, that's why he is where he is at

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can mac okeefe be a coach for blast when he is still playing college ball?another coach that will show up when he feels like it.false advertising if you ask me

He won't. His dad is coaching Blast as well as an older 91 team too. If Mac shows up it will be for a guest appearance. I wouldn't want a 91 year old coaching anyway. They are terrible with kids and have a much different set of priorities. It's better to have the dad.

Okeefe was one of the top scorers in the country as a freshman. Most college kids have summers off, correct? Any amount of time that he contributes will be a great asset. The kids will LOVE AND BENEFIT from their time with him. Why must negativism be the rule of thumb for this forum? Oh, yeah, I heard it before and I guess it must be true "haters gotta hate". Please just stop....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can mac okeefe be a coach for blast when he is still playing college ball?another coach that will show up when he feels like it.false advertising if you ask me

He won't. His dad is coaching Blast as well as an older 91 team too. If Mac shows up it will be for a guest appearance. I wouldn't want a 91 year old coaching anyway. They are terrible with kids and have a much different set of priorities. It's better to have the dad.

Kids relate to and emulate the younger coaches. For training, it is excellent. Mac will show them cool tricks and plays and they'll want to copy him. Many of us old guys would look like fools trying to do the same. Would I want him calling the shots in games? No. I'm sure he won't be. Plenty of other old guys on the sidelines to call the shots.

All this is a distraction. Gillis is the coach and probably better off. Still some Hurricanes kids somewhere at a tournament that Okeefe forgot to call and tell them the coaches decided to pull out at the last minute.

The slicker move is they are calling the B/White/ ice team Orange and the B-Last is AA

Definitely upgraded, a few changed. But overall definitely better than last year... Not Nick

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

The owners son on Legacy is going into 5th grade but should be in 6th. That's a hold back.

But that's ok by the rules. As bad as they are. The "they are almost the same age" arguement doesn't hold. So argue for this all you want cheater dad, I know my on age son will be pointing out your son on the field and at school.

Is the soon to be maybe superstar going to play down on PAL too?

You mean your on age son will be pointing at the boys scoring on him. And what school do they go too? How would you know that? Creepy...we are talking about 10yr olds.

I love the new format of AAA, AA, & A. Everyone is on the A team!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

The owners son on Legacy is going into 5th grade but should be in 6th. That's a hold back.

But that's ok by the rules. As bad as they are. The "they are almost the same age" arguement doesn't hold. So argue for this all you want cheater dad, I know my on age son will be pointing out your son on the field and at school.

Is the soon to be maybe superstar going to play down on PAL too?

You mean your on age son will be pointing at the boys scoring on him. And what school do they go too? How would you know that? Creepy...we are talking about 10yr olds.

No dumb @ss. We're talking about an 11 year old playing with 10 year olds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

The owners son on Legacy is going into 5th grade but should be in 6th. That's a hold back.

But that's ok by the rules. As bad as they are. The "they are almost the same age" arguement doesn't hold. So argue for this all you want cheater dad, I know my on age son will be pointing out your son on the field and at school.

Is the soon to be maybe superstar going to play down on PAL too?

You mean your on age son will be pointing at the boys scoring on him. And what school do they go too? How would you know that? Creepy...we are talking about 10yr olds.

And what are you going to do when the playing down doesn't make Johnnie a star? Then my 5th grader will simply tell his classmates that he is better than your 6th grade son even after cheating and those the kids will happily tell the others! Do you think you and your son can slink around with you at major tournaments without being noticed? And do you think you have the only kid from your town or school and the parents and kids don't talk to one another?

I guess the fantasy world where people don't laugh in your face and you are not ashamed really exists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Definitely upgraded, a few changed. But overall definitely better than last year... Not Nick

What team are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The slicker move is they are calling the B/White/ ice team Orange and the B-Last is AA

I thought the ICE team was poorly run. I know at least 5 families that left mid season. If they are having issues on 'AA' how can the 2nd team already be good?

These organizations should all offer a developmental team and play in a local league with the others instead of traveling all over to get blown out. 9D1 is the worst as they put there teams in same tournaments / their own knowing Ice never had a shot and shouldn't of been there.

My son was on Ice and had a great experience. When coach Gavin left the organization showed no interest in keeping the team together or offering a comparable coach. It's a shame. Exause it could have ended up being a legit second team...and nowntheir first one seems to be in trouble...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

The owners son on Legacy is going into 5th grade but should be in 6th. That's a hold back.

But that's ok by the rules. As bad as they are. The "they are almost the same age" arguement doesn't hold. So argue for this all you want cheater dad, I know my on age son will be pointing out your son on the field and at school.

Is the soon to be maybe superstar going to play down on PAL too?

You mean your on age son will be pointing at the boys scoring on him. And what school do they go too? How would you know that? Creepy...we are talking about 10yr olds.

And what are you going to do when the playing down doesn't make Johnnie a star? Then my 5th grader will simply tell his classmates that he is better than your 6th grade son even after cheating and those the kids will happily tell the others! Do you think you and your son can slink around with you at major tournaments without being noticed? And do you think you have the only kid from your town or school and the parents and kids don't talk to one another?

I guess the fantasy world where people don't laugh in your face and you are not ashamed really exists.

You are the crazy one. You think this is a singular case? Buddy, wake up and smell reality. More and more kids are being held back every year. Your little superstar will be mediocre very soon.

24 destroyed ICE
and are on the rise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son was on Ice and had a great experience. When coach Gavin left the organization showed no interest in keeping the team together or offering a comparable coach. It's a shame. Exause it could have ended up being a legit second team...and nowntheir first one seems to be in trouble...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

The owners son on Legacy is going into 5th grade but should be in 6th. That's a hold back.

But that's ok by the rules. As bad as they are. The "they are almost the same age" arguement doesn't hold. So argue for this all you want cheater dad, I know my on age son will be pointing out your son on the field and at school.

Is the soon to be maybe superstar going to play down on PAL too?

You mean your on age son will be pointing at the boys scoring on him. And what school do they go too? How would you know that? Creepy...we are talking about 10yr olds.

And what are you going to do when the playing down doesn't make Johnnie a star? Then my 5th grader will simply tell his classmates that he is better than your 6th grade son even after cheating and those the kids will happily tell the others! Do you think you and your son can slink around with you at major tournaments without being noticed? And do you think you have the only kid from your town or school and the parents and kids don't talk to one another?

I guess the fantasy world where people don't laugh in your face and you are not ashamed really exists.

You are the crazy one. You think this is a singular case? Buddy, wake up and smell reality. More and more kids are being held back every year. Your little superstar will be mediocre very soon.

This re-class and hold-back conversation infuriates parents.The parents that held back there kids early on and the ones that are contemplating on doing it now. And lets not forget the boys that are on AGE.Is it fair to them? Its happening all around. all of the A teams are full of holdbacks and re-class.You want this all to go away???Simple fix-AGE BASED TEAMS (All other youth sports do it)

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You are the crazy one. You think this is a singular case? Buddy, wake up and smell reality. More and more kids are being held back every year. Your little superstar will be mediocre very soon.
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This re-class and hold-back conversation infuriates parents.The parents that held back there kids early on and the ones that are contemplating on doing it now. And lets not forget the boys that are on AGE.Is it fair to them? Its happening all around. all of the A teams are full of holdbacks and re-class.You want this all to go away???Simple fix-AGE BASED TEAMS (All other youth sports do it)[/quote]

There is no good argument for grade-based teams for pre-HS ages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdback means he would be playing on the 4th grade team instead he is same age as your son and plays on the 6th grade team. Your sideline coaching is holding back your own kid. Didn't Legacy win the WSYL the year before with an age based team?

The owners son on Legacy is going into 5th grade but should be in 6th. That's a hold back.

But that's ok by the rules. As bad as they are. The "they are almost the same age" arguement doesn't hold. So argue for this all you want cheater dad, I know my on age son will be pointing out your son on the field and at school.

Is the soon to be maybe superstar going to play down on PAL too?

You mean your on age son will be pointing at the boys scoring on him. And what school do they go too? How would you know that? Creepy...we are talking about 10yr olds.

And what are you going to do when the playing down doesn't make Johnnie a star? Then my 5th grader will simply tell his classmates that he is better than your 6th grade son even after cheating and those the kids will happily tell the others! Do you think you and your son can slink around with you at major tournaments without being noticed? And do you think you have the only kid from your town or school and the parents and kids don't talk to one another?

I guess the fantasy world where people don't laugh in your face and you are not ashamed really exists.

You are the crazy one. You think this is a singular case? Buddy, wake up and smell reality. More and more kids are being held back every year. Your little superstar will be mediocre very soon.

They are talking about a sixth grade kid, that is not held back playing down on a 5th grade team. if the parents choose to hold a kid back and face the music for that, well those are the rules. Those rules might stink, but that is the system. Right now people are saying Express is telling some parents to just have the boys play 2025 (now 5th grade) even though they will be going to school in 6th grade (2024).

That is just cheating.

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

If this bothers you at 5th grade, you should see what older boys are doing: reclassing themselves NOW based upon a prospective PG year so that they are playing with the boys that will be in the same freshman class class after they do their PG year! And some of these boys are already holdbacks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

I understand and agree and share 100% in with your frustration. But what exactly is the rule??Is the Sept.1st date that us lax and world series of lax use? or is it the graduating class?
Because something has to change.Lax is the fastest growing sport in America. Someone needs to step in and interpret/enforce some rules.

I'll preface what I say with I have no problem with any player playing on grade, regardless of age. It's the rule and the clubs we all pay won't change it. However, whatappears to be new, and I think it's the WSYL influence, is coaches literally merging the Sept 1st cutoff of the WSYL and grade. And I because nothing is changing it doesn't upset me. But I respect and understand those of you infuriated by all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 destroyed ICE
and are on the rise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son was on Ice and had a great experience. When coach Gavin left the organization showed no interest in keeping the team together or offering a comparable coach. It's a shame. Exause it could have ended up being a legit second team...and nowntheir first one seems to be in trouble...

24 beat a team that barely had enough players in a B tournament.if you knew what the ice players went through you wouldn't be bragging about how you destroyed them. Give it a rest loser

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

I understand and agree and share 100% in with your frustration. But what exactly is the rule??Is the Sept.1st date that us lax and world series of lax use? or is it the graduating class?
Because something has to change.Lax is the fastest growing sport in America. Someone needs to step in and interpret/enforce some rules.

My son tried out for his team at 2025. So did every other kid on Long Island. Everything else is just made up rules at this point. I'll accept a September 1 date if they get rid of anyone older than that as well. You can't just mix and match it because your kid got cut from Channy A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

I understand and agree and share 100% in with your frustration. But what exactly is the rule??Is the Sept.1st date that us lax and world series of lax use? or is it the graduating class?
Because something has to change.Lax is the fastest growing sport in America. Someone needs to step in and interpret/enforce some rules.

My son tried out for his team at 2025. So did every other kid on Long Island. Everything else is just made up rules at this point. I'll accept a September 1 date if they get rid of anyone older than that as well. You can't just mix and match it because your kid got cut from Channy A.

If you think holdbacks/ reclassifications are going away you are 100% wrong. College coaches are pushing more and more kids towards taking 1 if not 2 post grad years before enrolling into their college. As the sport grows you will see more of this because it is all driven by 💰💰. These coaches are under much more pressure to win immediately therefore they will do anything they can to give themselves an advantage. Since it's being pushed @ the collegiate level it will only trickle down even further & become more common.
Keep in mind hold backs/ reclassification happens very frequently in football & basketball @ the collegiate level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

I understand and agree and share 100% in with your frustration. But what exactly is the rule??Is the Sept.1st date that us lax and world series of lax use? or is it the graduating class?
Because something has to change.Lax is the fastest growing sport in America. Someone needs to step in and interpret/enforce some rules.

My son tried out for his team at 2025. So did every other kid on Long Island. Everything else is just made up rules at this point. I'll accept a September 1 date if they get rid of anyone older than that as well. You can't just mix and match it because your kid got cut from Channy A.

Channy does not cut kids. He collects them. His roster is 30 kids. That does not include the other kids he will add when the season starts. To be fair he is up front about whether or not your kid will play. You just have to ask.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

I understand and agree and share 100% in with your frustration. But what exactly is the rule??Is the Sept.1st date that us lax and world series of lax use? or is it the graduating class?
Because something has to change.Lax is the fastest growing sport in America. Someone needs to step in and interpret/enforce some rules.

My son tried out for his team at 2025. So did every other kid on Long Island. Everything else is just made up rules at this point. I'll accept a September 1 date if they get rid of anyone older than that as well. You can't just mix and match it because your kid got cut from Channy A.

Channy does not cut kids. He collects them. His roster is 30 kids. That does not include the other kids he will add when the season starts. To be fair he is up front about whether or not your kid will play. You just have to ask.

Honestly, isn't that nuts? I know people are okay with it to say it's worth the practice. To each his own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

I understand and agree and share 100% in with your frustration. But what exactly is the rule??Is the Sept.1st date that us lax and world series of lax use? or is it the graduating class?
Because something has to change.Lax is the fastest growing sport in America. Someone needs to step in and interpret/enforce some rules.

My son tried out for his team at 2025. So did every other kid on Long Island. Everything else is just made up rules at this point. I'll accept a September 1 date if they get rid of anyone older than that as well. You can't just mix and match it because your kid got cut from Channy A.

If you think holdbacks/ reclassifications are going away you are 100% wrong. College coaches are pushing more and more kids towards taking 1 if not 2 post grad years before enrolling into their college. As the sport grows you will see more of this because it is all driven by 💰💰. These coaches are under much more pressure to win immediately therefore they will do anything they can to give themselves an advantage. Since it's being pushed @ the collegiate level it will only trickle down even further & become more common.
Keep in mind hold backs/ reclassification happens very frequently in football & basketball @ the collegiate level.

You may be correct. We shall see. But what you are describing is not incompatible with age based youth play. If many players are going to do PG years at the encouragement of D1 coaches (so that they are older when competing at the college level), so be it. It does not mean that kids can't be organized by age when they play lacrosse when they are youths.

Hockey uses PG years also. It is very common for a D1 hockey player to be on schedule to graduate when they are 23 or 24. But yet hockey organizes youth play by birth year, and such is strictly enforced and verified. Their system works very easily. Their is no reason why it won't work in lacrosse.

If you think holdbacks/ reclassifications are going away you are 100% wrong. College coaches are pushing more and more kids towards taking 1 if not 2 post grad years before enrolling into their college. As the sport grows you will see more of this because it is all driven by 💰💰. These coaches are under much more pressure to win immediately therefore they will do anything they can to give themselves an advantage. Since it's being pushed @ the collegiate level it will only trickle down even further & become more common.
Keep in mind hold backs/ reclassification happens very frequently in football & basketball @ the collegiate level. [/quote]

----this is correct for lax, I see it happen with high school kids a lot. They get asked to PG but only some do. But the reasoning is because lacrosse players actually stay in college for 4 years, so there's a benefit having a 23/24 year old playing for you. This however is not true for football or Basketball like you stated. Kids are actually looking to get to college sooner, so that they can play and have a chance to make it into a professional career.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your not ok with a 6th grader not yet 11 yrs old. But you are ok with the 5th grader that turned 11 last week? how do you justify cheating?

The rules are what they are. Making up your own rules just doesn't fly. PS, I am infuriated by holdbacks, so a cheating, phony holdback is even more infuriating.

I understand and agree and share 100% in with your frustration. But what exactly is the rule??Is the Sept.1st date that us lax and world series of lax use? or is it the graduating class?
Because something has to change.Lax is the fastest growing sport in America. Someone needs to step in and interpret/enforce some rules.

My son tried out for his team at 2025. So did every other kid on Long Island. Everything else is just made up rules at this point. I'll accept a September 1 date if they get rid of anyone older than that as well. You can't just mix and match it because your kid got cut from Channy A.

If you think holdbacks/ reclassifications are going away you are 100% wrong. College coaches are pushing more and more kids towards taking 1 if not 2 post grad years before enrolling into their college. As the sport grows you will see more of this because it is all driven by 💰💰. These coaches are under much more pressure to win immediately therefore they will do anything they can to give themselves an advantage. Since it's being pushed @ the collegiate level it will only trickle down even further & become more common.
Keep in mind hold backs/ reclassification happens very frequently in football & basketball @ the collegiate level.

The reclass is an issue for pre-HS aged players, not HS. Football is age-based for all youth programs, so it has never trickled down there - it can't. PG has always been an option for foorball. Football is totally irrelevant analogy.

Football and basketball also have more scholarship $, so PG could be viewed as an investment versus scholarship $, PG a lacrosse player just adds to the overall education cost as we all know, there is minimal $ in lacrosse scholarships

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

If the rules allow him to play then so be it - that's why lax needs to adopt the age based system like hockey and soccer. Hopefully US Lax will implement this, and those running tournaments will have to check all players.

And in my book a " holdback" is another word for cheater. But let those parents gloat their johnny is a star because even johnny knows he is a cheater !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

I agree a 6th grader that falls in the birth guidelines is fine with me. That way it's clear. Aug 31st and it's a different case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

if you're in 6th grade regardless of your birthday and playing 2025 then you're cheating. If it's age based (wsyl) then its fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

I agree a 6th grader that falls in the birth guidelines is fine with me. That way it's clear. Aug 31st and it's a different case.

The USL cutoffs are for an age-based system. You can't pick and choose to use age-based criteria in a grade-based system or vice versa. That's rediculous!

I heard the WI daddy coach is trying to infiltrate the geese watch out!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

I agree a 6th grader that falls in the birth guidelines is fine with me. That way it's clear. Aug 31st and it's a different case.

The USL cutoffs are for an age-based system. You can't pick and choose to use age-based criteria in a grade-based system or vice versa. That's rediculous!

It's 5th grade lacrosse. He's not competing to get into college right now. If he misses the cut off by 2 weeks WHO CARES? Get over it and worry about your own kid and things that are important in life. This is so ridiculous people keep caring on for an August birthday. Bet over it already!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

In grade based lacrosse absolutely -
But there are a decent number of 2025s older than some 2024s.

It's an honor system.

Sorry, can you clarify TB?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

Is your son in 6th grade? What part of the GRADE BASED SYSTEM can't you understand. It's cheating, purposely ignorant morons who would happily cheat and pretend that us lacrosse guidelines are applicable.

Cheating piece of $h!t

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard the WI daddy coach is trying to infiltrate the geese watch out!

Of course he is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

I agree a 6th grader that falls in the birth guidelines is fine with me. That way it's clear. Aug 31st and it's a different case.

The USL cutoffs are for an age-based system. You can't pick and choose to use age-based criteria in a grade-based system or vice versa. That's rediculous!

It's 5th grade lacrosse. He's not competing to get into college right now. If he misses the cut off by 2 weeks WHO CARES? Get over it and worry about your own kid and things that are important in life. This is so ridiculous people keep caring on for an August birthday. Bet over it already!

It's not two weeks Mr. Alternate Facts, the LI school year is December 1, and I care about my kid and don't want your kid more than a year older than mine, your kid who is in 6th grade cheating. You should be embarrassed and your son will be ashamed.

Over time, we'll all find out who you are and eventually we'll find out if your kid stinks or not, but we will all know without a doubt that you are a cheating bag of scum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

I agree a 6th grader that falls in the birth guidelines is fine with me. That way it's clear. Aug 31st and it's a different case.

The USL cutoffs are for an age-based system. You can't pick and choose to use age-based criteria in a grade-based system or vice versa. That's rediculous!

It's 5th grade lacrosse. He's not competing to get into college right now. If he misses the cut off by 2 weeks WHO CARES? Get over it and worry about your own kid and things that are important in life. This is so ridiculous people keep caring on for an August birthday. Bet over it already!

It's not two weeks Mr. Alternate Facts, the LI school year is December 1, and I care about my kid and don't want your kid more than a year older than mine, your kid who is in 6th grade cheating. You should be embarrassed and your son will be ashamed.

Over time, we'll all find out who you are and eventually we'll find out if your kid stinks or not, but we will all know without a doubt that you are a cheating bag of scum.

The rules are... there are no rules!!! Talk all you want but until there is one consistent system it's gamesmanship and clubs one-upping each other and it will just continue into perpetuity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

I agree a 6th grader that falls in the birth guidelines is fine with me. That way it's clear. Aug 31st and it's a different case.

The USL cutoffs are for an age-based system. You can't pick and choose to use age-based criteria in a grade-based system or vice versa. That's rediculous!

It's 5th grade lacrosse. He's not competing to get into college right now. If he misses the cut off by 2 weeks WHO CARES? Get over it and worry about your own kid and things that are important in life. This is so ridiculous people keep caring on for an August birthday. Bet over it already!

There is no "cutoff" in grade-based lacrosse - you're either in the grade or you're not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

I agree a 6th grader that falls in the birth guidelines is fine with me. That way it's clear. Aug 31st and it's a different case.

The USL cutoffs are for an age-based system. You can't pick and choose to use age-based criteria in a grade-based system or vice versa. That's rediculous!

I an fine with it, meaning if the rules stated it. Clearly playing grade is one thing, grade. This merged approach we are discussing is new. But I have no problem with it, if tourneys adopted it.

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The rules are... there are no rules!!! Talk all you want but until there is one consistent system it's gamesmanship and clubs one-upping each other and it will just continue into perpetuity.
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You're kind of making the point that it is one big game of who can cheat more. The rules are an honor system, which is why they can be broken. Most people have some sense of right and wrong which is why most have their kids play on grade, which although not formally written is fairly intuitive and obvious - you're kid is either in a given grade or they're not; playing up is fine, playing down is cheating. Those parents having their boy play down have lower morals, and they know it's wrong, which is why they don't generally advertise it. Holdbacks are a whole other problem, and technically within the rules, but the practice is questionable, if not downright wrong, which is why EVERY OTHER MAJOR YOUTH SPORT has gone age-based.

A kid may move here from out of state, kids are held back for learning or social issues. I understand this. However what does this have to do with playing sports. How does a kid because he may have trouble reading entitle that kid to now play sports with younger kids. When kids are the same age, that's what makes sports fair. I agree with having an age cutoff date. Whatever that date would be, I wish it would be followed. US lacrosse and now with WSYL becoming more popular I think in the near future this grade based lacrosse may fade away.

Anyone hear from 9D1 since tryouts ended?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid may move here from out of state, kids are held back for learning or social issues. I understand this. However what does this have to do with playing sports. How does a kid because he may have trouble reading entitle that kid to now play sports with younger kids. When kids are the same age, that's what makes sports fair. I agree with having an age cutoff date. Whatever that date would be, I wish it would be followed. US lacrosse and now with WSYL becoming more popular I think in the near future this grade based lacrosse may fade away.

This debate has raging for a long time and every club on LI has concluded or is the middle of tryouts. Yet nothing changes. Hence, there is no change coming. So let me attempt to be productive.

Whats the solution that everyone seems to want. Even the announcers on the WSYL advocated for change. Maybe a group that has no financial stake can help enact change. PAL Lacrosse should review and consider an age based system and adopt US lacrosse guidelines. Shouldn't PAL be an advocate of safety and fairness? I think that is a productive way to get something going towards an age based system. "US Lacrosse establishes eligibility guidelines to promote a safe and sportsmanlike environment. US Lacrosse believes that leagues, associations, and other organizers of youth lacrosse should provide playing opportunities that, as much as possible, aim to establish a "level playing field" among players of similar age."(https://www.uslacrosse.org/rules/age-eligibility-guidelines) In my humble opinion, if PAL was the willing to frustrate the "status quo" they would open some eyes and this could pave the way to ending the unending debate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard the WI daddy coach is trying to infiltrate the geese watch out!

Of course he is.

This should surprise no one. He'll be coaching by October.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone hear from 9D1 since tryouts ended?

Nothing... Even though they said you'll hear within 48 hours.

Shore 2 Shore offers started. My son accepted a spot. Talent was better than I expected at tryouts, but below other top teams. Probably a good place to look for those who don't make other top teams or are on bottom of those rosters. Coaches were great at tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore 2 Shore offers started. My son accepted a spot. Talent was better than I expected at tryouts, but below other top teams. Probably a good place to look for those who don't make other top teams or are on bottom of those rosters. Coaches were great at tryouts.

The 2024 team will be solid. Lots of good kids moving over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore 2 Shore offers started. My son accepted a spot. Talent was better than I expected at tryouts, but below other top teams. Probably a good place to look for those who don't make other top teams or are on bottom of those rosters. Coaches were great at tryouts.

The 2024 team will be solid. Lots of good kids moving over.

Who would move over to a club their first year? Not very smart.
Pay thousands of dollars and have no clue what you are getting?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard the WI daddy coach is trying to infiltrate the geese watch out!

Of course he is.

This should surprise no one. He'll be coaching by October.

And causing chaos and disruption by November.

Did anyone attending the Duke's Nationals 2025 Tryout at Hofstra?? They have another tryout coming up at UPenn on September 9th. I heard that they are a really good team. Any productive info would be great. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard the WI daddy coach is trying to infiltrate the geese watch out!

Of course he is.

This should surprise no one. He'll be coaching by October.

Half the team will leave if that happens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore 2 Shore offers started. My son accepted a spot. Talent was better than I expected at tryouts, but below other top teams. Probably a good place to look for those who don't make other top teams or are on bottom of those rosters. Coaches were great at tryouts.

2025 Coach will be fine when he is there, unfortunately he will miss a lot if his past record holds. Then when he is there, you will have to put up with the friends and family first plan.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard the WI daddy coach is trying to infiltrate the geese watch out!

Of course he is.

This should surprise no one. He'll be coaching by October.

Half the team will leave if that happens.

Which WI Daddy coach are we talking about? And which team on legacy is he going to? Geese? And is he infiltrating as a coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did anyone attending the Duke's Nationals 2025 Tryout at Hofstra?? They have another tryout coming up at UPenn on September 9th. I heard that they are a really good team. Any productive info would be great. Thanks!

They had a few really good players. Coach seemed like a nice guy. I couldn't say how good he is or isn't. I think they're more targeting underserved areas that don't have well-run clubs for kids to play in. We didn't accept the invite because I'm concerned it will conflict with our main club team. They use a depth chart system where attendance is a key factor (makes sense) but if you can't make the practices because of your main club, I assume your kid won't be playing so why do it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did anyone attending the Duke's Nationals 2025 Tryout at Hofstra?? They have another tryout coming up at UPenn on September 9th. I heard that they are a really good team. Any productive info would be great. Thanks!

They had a few really good players. Coach seemed like a nice guy. I couldn't say how good he is or isn't. I think they're more targeting underserved areas that don't have well-run clubs for kids to play in. We didn't accept the invite because I'm concerned it will conflict with our main club team. They use a depth chart system where attendance is a key factor (makes sense) but if you can't make the practices because of your main club, I assume your kid won't be playing so why do it.

What does targeting underserved areas have anything to do with an elite lacrosse team?

Going to the geese.team was the best last year.very well could be mediocre this year.daddy ball and politics has already started

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did anyone attending the Duke's Nationals 2025 Tryout at Hofstra?? They have another tryout coming up at UPenn on September 9th. I heard that they are a really good team. Any productive info would be great. Thanks!

They had a few really good players. Coach seemed like a nice guy. I couldn't say how good he is or isn't. I think they're more targeting underserved areas that don't have well-run clubs for kids to play in. We didn't accept the invite because I'm concerned it will conflict with our main club team. They use a depth chart system where attendance is a key factor (makes sense) but if you can't make the practices because of your main club, I assume your kid won't be playing so why do it.

What does targeting underserved areas have anything to do with an elite lacrosse team?

If they go where the area is underserved, then they can lock in kids that have less local club options to choose from. That's what it has to do with "elite" lacrosse.

And by the way, the invited kids from the tryout at Hofstra on that Saturday blew the doors off Express the next day at Cedar Creek.

Problem with Dukes is that every single event that they have is off the Island. It's hard to justify an overnight trip to go to a practice. Even if that practice is at Hopkins, Rutgers or UVA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to the geese.team was the best last year.very well could be mediocre this year.daddy ball and politics has already started

Mama Goose is laying eggs over there hoping her golden chicken still has a team to play on. Not looking good at this point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did anyone attending the Duke's Nationals 2025 Tryout at Hofstra?? They have another tryout coming up at UPenn on September 9th. I heard that they are a really good team. Any productive info would be great. Thanks!

They had a few really good players. Coach seemed like a nice guy. I couldn't say how good he is or isn't. I think they're more targeting underserved areas that don't have well-run clubs for kids to play in. We didn't accept the invite because I'm concerned it will conflict with our main club team. They use a depth chart system where attendance is a key factor (makes sense) but if you can't make the practices because of your main club, I assume your kid won't be playing so why do it.

What does targeting underserved areas have anything to do with an elite lacrosse team?

If they go where the area is underserved, then they can lock in kids that have less local club options to choose from. That's what it has to do with "elite" lacrosse.

And by the way, the invited kids from the tryout at Hofstra on that Saturday blew the doors off Express the next day at Cedar Creek.

Problem with Dukes is that every single event that they have is off the Island. It's hard to justify an overnight trip to go to a practice. Even if that practice is at Hopkins, Rutgers or UVA.

Dukes is not for everyone!! Either you want to give your kid the experience or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to the geese.team was the best last year.very well could be mediocre this year.daddy ball and politics has already started

Beating up on B Teams does not make you the Best team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to the geese.team was the best last year.very well could be mediocre this year.daddy ball and politics has already started

Beating up on B Teams does not make you the Best team.

Geese is an A team

I heard geese have not posted anything because their top players have not committed yet and legacy is scrambling. Their B team blue devils already have there team and start practice on Monday. Oh boy the end is near.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone hear from 9D1 since tryouts ended?

Nothing... Even though they said you'll hear within 48 hours.

Does 9D1 send emails first and then post roster online. Or do they post roster online first and then send emails?

Rumors!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumors!!

I agree. Ridiculous rumors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumors!!

I agree. Ridiculous rumors.

Rumors eventually turn into the truth.watch as it crumbles.all about business not about getting better. The almighty $$$ will decide their future

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard geese have not posted anything because their top players have not committed yet and legacy is scrambling. Their B team blue devils already have there team and start practice on Monday. Oh boy the end is near.

Practice Monday? Little soon. System doesnt work. Legacy will burn these kids out in no time. Blue Devils shooting for best B team. Something to strive for. Best in [lacrosse] division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard geese have not posted anything because their top players have not committed yet and legacy is scrambling. Their B team blue devils already have there team and start practice on Monday. Oh boy the end is near.

Practice Monday? Little soon. System doesnt work. Legacy will burn these kids out in no time. Blue Devils shooting for best B team. Something to strive for. Best in [lacrosse] division

Wow!!! There are just no words for you! Sad!

In past years, 9D1 posts their roster. Nothing has been posted yet.
I think the coaches are taking their time with these decisions because they want to get it right. Good luck to everyone.82xa

Legacy posted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy posted

24 kids=more $$$$$
Limited playing time to keep the consumer happy.
Lots of politics and daddy ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In past years, 9D1 posts their roster. Nothing has been posted yet.
I think the coaches are taking their time with these decisions because they want to get it right. Good luck to everyone.82xa

Thanks. Same to you.

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy posted

24 kids=more $$$$$
Limited playing time to keep the consumer happy.
Lots of politics and daddy ball

So you start by saying they don't have enough kids and are scrambling. Now you say they have too many kids and are only after $$. Can you make up your mind?
And what team are you playing for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

A good roster is around 23 kids. Two solid lines plus an extra midi line. But don't go by rosters after tryouts. Depending on the team they may have more on roster with the assumption not all are accepting.
Plus some teams pick up additional kids as the season progresses. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good coaches will tell you up front or if you ask them.

Just remember that in crunch time and championship games, only 15/16 or maybe 17 will be playing. That's if your trying to win. If it's a we all get a medal for trying team, maybe kid 21/22 plays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

A good roster is around 23 kids. Two solid lines plus an extra midi line. But don't go by rosters after tryouts. Depending on the team they may have more on roster with the assumption not all are accepting.
Plus some teams pick up additional kids as the season progresses. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good coaches will tell you up front or if you ask them.

23 is still way to much. 20 is ideal. Geese have 25 after promising 20-22. Another bait and switch by Legacy. And you guys thought the infighting was bad last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

A good roster is around 23 kids. Two solid lines plus an extra midi line. But don't go by rosters after tryouts. Depending on the team they may have more on roster with the assumption not all are accepting.
Plus some teams pick up additional kids as the season progresses. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good coaches will tell you up front or if you ask them.

23 is still way to much. 20 is ideal. Geese have 25 after promising 20-22. Another bait and switch by Legacy. And you guys thought the infighting was bad last year.

If you go with 3 groups of mids, 5 D and 5 A, 2 Gs (and 1 LPM if you can't use one of your D for that), you are at either 21 or 22 - no more! Any travel team carrying more than that is just setting up kids for no time on the field and no real benefit to the team either, other than those extra kids subsidizing the other players and the director's pockets! Fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid may move here from out of state, kids are held back for learning or social issues. I understand this. However what does this have to do with playing sports. How does a kid because he may have trouble reading entitle that kid to now play sports with younger kids. When kids are the same age, that's what makes sports fair. I agree with having an age cutoff date. Whatever that date would be, I wish it would be followed. US lacrosse and now with WSYL becoming more popular I think in the near future this grade based lacrosse may fade away.

This debate has raging for a long time and every club on LI has concluded or is the middle of tryouts. Yet nothing changes. Hence, there is no change coming. So let me attempt to be productive.

Whats the solution that everyone seems to want. Even the announcers on the WSYL advocated for change. Maybe a group that has no financial stake can help enact change. PAL Lacrosse should review and consider an age based system and adopt US lacrosse guidelines. Shouldn't PAL be an advocate of safety and fairness? I think that is a productive way to get something going towards an age based system. "US Lacrosse establishes eligibility guidelines to promote a safe and sportsmanlike environment. US Lacrosse believes that leagues, associations, and other organizers of youth lacrosse should provide playing opportunities that, as much as possible, aim to establish a "level playing field" among players of similar age."(https://www.uslacrosse.org/rules/age-eligibility-guidelines) In my humble opinion, if PAL was the willing to frustrate the "status quo" they would open some eyes and this could pave the way to ending the unending debate.

Great quote! Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's all simply agree that an actual 6th grade kid (2024) playing 5th grade lacrosse (2025) on Long Island is cheating.

I think it depends on their birthday. The US Lacrosse cutoff is 9/1. I have a child born early September that could, according to US Lacrosse, play the grade below. I personally wouldn't consider it because it's better to challenged in my opinion, but I wouldn't consider it cheating either because of the USL cutoff.

Is your son in 6th grade? What part of the GRADE BASED SYSTEM can't you understand. It's cheating, purposely ignorant morons who would happily cheat and pretend that us lacrosse guidelines are applicable.

Cheating piece of $h!t

The only way you can be that Mad to make that quote, is that you held back your kid and do not want another boy the same age to steal his thunder. pathetic!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

A good roster is around 23 kids. Two solid lines plus an extra midi line. But don't go by rosters after tryouts. Depending on the team they may have more on roster with the assumption not all are accepting.
Plus some teams pick up additional kids as the season progresses. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good coaches will tell you up front or if you ask them.

23 is still way to much. 20 is ideal. Geese have 25 after promising 20-22. Another bait and switch by Legacy. And you guys thought the infighting was bad last year.

They did not say 20-22. They said 22, maybe 23 or 24.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid may move here from out of state, kids are held back for learning or social issues. I understand this. However what does this have to do with playing sports. How does a kid because he may have trouble reading entitle that kid to now play sports with younger kids. When kids are the same age, that's what makes sports fair. I agree with having an age cutoff date. Whatever that date would be, I wish it would be followed. US lacrosse and now with WSYL becoming more popular I think in the near future this grade based lacrosse may fade away.

This debate has raging for a long time and every club on LI has concluded or is the middle of tryouts. Yet nothing changes. Hence, there is no change coming. So let me attempt to be productive.

Whats the solution that everyone seems to want. Even the announcers on the WSYL advocated for change. Maybe a group that has no financial stake can help enact change. PAL Lacrosse should review and consider an age based system and adopt US lacrosse guidelines. Shouldn't PAL be an advocate of safety and fairness? I think that is a productive way to get something going towards an age based system. "US Lacrosse establishes eligibility guidelines to promote a safe and sportsmanlike environment. US Lacrosse believes that leagues, associations, and other organizers of youth lacrosse should provide playing opportunities that, as much as possible, aim to establish a "level playing field" among players of similar age."(https://www.uslacrosse.org/rules/age-eligibility-guidelines) In my humble opinion, if PAL was the willing to frustrate the "status quo" they would open some eyes and this could pave the way to ending the unending debate.

Great quote! Thank you.

Great point. PAL could take the lead on this issue. If boys play age based on PAL it will quickly become obvious who is playing down and will bring to surface the issue, which is currently these dark "secrets" who is playing down. Parents may also be less inclined to hold back if their son is no longer able to play with the boys in their grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid may move here from out of state, kids are held back for learning or social issues. I understand this. However what does this have to do with playing sports. How does a kid because he may have trouble reading entitle that kid to now play sports with younger kids. When kids are the same age, that's what makes sports fair. I agree with having an age cutoff date. Whatever that date would be, I wish it would be followed. US lacrosse and now with WSYL becoming more popular I think in the near future this grade based lacrosse may fade away.

This debate has raging for a long time and every club on LI has concluded or is the middle of tryouts. Yet nothing changes. Hence, there is no change coming. So let me attempt to be productive.

Whats the solution that everyone seems to want. Even the announcers on the WSYL advocated for change. Maybe a group that has no financial stake can help enact change. PAL Lacrosse should review and consider an age based system and adopt US lacrosse guidelines. Shouldn't PAL be an advocate of safety and fairness? I think that is a productive way to get something going towards an age based system. "US Lacrosse establishes eligibility guidelines to promote a safe and sportsmanlike environment. US Lacrosse believes that leagues, associations, and other organizers of youth lacrosse should provide playing opportunities that, as much as possible, aim to establish a "level playing field" among players of similar age."(https://www.uslacrosse.org/rules/age-eligibility-guidelines) In my humble opinion, if PAL was the willing to frustrate the "status quo" they would open some eyes and this could pave the way to ending the unending debate.

Great quote! Thank you.

Great point. PAL could take the lead on this issue. If boys play age based on PAL it will quickly become obvious who is playing down and will bring to surface the issue, which is currently these dark "secrets" who is playing down. Parents may also be less inclined to hold back if their son is no longer able to play with the boys in their grade.

Yes! C'mom PAL BOD..be trailblazers and follow US lacrosse guidelines. Smithtown has a US lacrosse link on their Web page. And they run Suffolk PAL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

A good roster is around 23 kids. Two solid lines plus an extra midi line. But don't go by rosters after tryouts. Depending on the team they may have more on roster with the assumption not all are accepting.
Plus some teams pick up additional kids as the season progresses. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good coaches will tell you up front or if you ask them.

23 is still way to much. 20 is ideal. Geese have 25 after promising 20-22. Another bait and switch by Legacy. And you guys thought the infighting was bad last year.

They did not say 20-22. They said 22, maybe 23 or 24.

So said 22 then maybe 23-24 and then post 25. Who taught math over there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

A good roster is around 23 kids. Two solid lines plus an extra midi line. But don't go by rosters after tryouts. Depending on the team they may have more on roster with the assumption not all are accepting.
Plus some teams pick up additional kids as the season progresses. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good coaches will tell you up front or if you ask them.

23 is still way to much. 20 is ideal. Geese have 25 after promising 20-22. Another bait and switch by Legacy. And you guys thought the infighting was bad last year.

They did not say 20-22. They said 22, maybe 23 or 24.

So said 22 then maybe 23-24 and then post 25. Who taught math over there?

Count again. Because there is 24 listed for golden geese and 23 listed for Blue Devils

Did Blast post yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Blast post yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Blast post yet?

Blast has nothing left.
No attack
No defense
1 middie line
Good luck

Geese are crumbling. Absolute mess over there.watch it all unfold

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Blast post yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Blast post yet?

Blast has nothing left.
No attack
No defense
1 middie line
Good luck

Geese are crumbling. Absolute mess over there.watch it all unfold[/quote]

Ooooh! Wonder who this is? Ha Ha! Deflecting your own fears. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

A good roster is around 23 kids. Two solid lines plus an extra midi line. But don't go by rosters after tryouts. Depending on the team they may have more on roster with the assumption not all are accepting.
Plus some teams pick up additional kids as the season progresses. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Good coaches will tell you up front or if you ask them.

23 is still way to much. 20 is ideal. Geese have 25 after promising 20-22. Another bait and switch by Legacy. And you guys thought the infighting was bad last year.

They did not say 20-22. They said 22, maybe 23 or 24.

So said 22 then maybe 23-24 and then post 25. Who taught math over there?

Count again. Because there is 24 listed for golden geese and 23 listed for Blue Devils

Blue Devils blow. Waste of money to play for that team....

Igloo is the team to beat this year in 2025

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is the team to beat this year in 2025

The Jets have a better shot of winning the AFC....

That's so funny. And true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is the team to beat this year in 2025

Didn't a bunch of them leave and go to Team 24? Just a question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is the team to beat this year in 2025

The Jets have a better shot of winning the AFC....

haha...so true. maybe top 4 or 5 but they wont crack the top 3

Blue Devils blow. Waste of money to play for that team....
[/quote]

Your just some low life troll who knows nothing. You have a sad and lonely life. Nothing better to do than make up negative comments about youth teams. I pity you. Crawl back under your rock. No one here is interested in your negative commentary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils blow. Waste of money to play for that team....

Your just some low life troll who knows nothing. You have a sad and lonely life. Nothing better to do than make up negative comments about youth teams. I pity you. Crawl back under your rock. No one here is interested in your negative commentary. [/quote]

Did I touch a nerve??? Realize you pay too much and live in the shadow of the geese??? You clearly are interested hence your response. Face it. That team is horrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Blast post yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Blast post yet?

Blast has nothing left.
No attack
No defense
1 middie line
Good luck

You wish. This team won't need luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils blow. Waste of money to play for that team....

Your just some low life troll who knows nothing. You have a sad and lonely life. Nothing better to do than make up negative comments about youth teams. I pity you. Crawl back under your rock. No one here is interested in your negative commentary.

Did I touch a nerve??? Realize you pay too much and live in the shadow of the geese??? You clearly are interested hence your response. Face it. That team is horrible. [/quote]

Too funny!!! You don't even realize who you are talking to.
If you have a kid on the geese, you should be kicked off if your insulting a team in the same organisation. Get lost jerk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is the team to beat this year in 2025

Didn't a bunch of them leave and go to Team 24? Just a question.

mikeeeeeee stop it !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils blow. Waste of money to play for that team....

Your just some low life troll who knows nothing. You have a sad and lonely life. Nothing better to do than make up negative comments about youth teams. I pity you. Crawl back under your rock. No one here is interested in your negative commentary.

Did I touch a nerve??? Realize you pay too much and live in the shadow of the geese??? You clearly are interested hence your response. Face it. That team is horrible.

Too funny!!! You don't even realize who you are talking to.
If you have a kid on the geese, you should be kicked off if your insulting a team in the same organisation. Get lost jerk.
[/quote]

Who I am talking to?? Wait I know a fool... Be sure to get to practice early to fill the water bottles for the geese.

Team 24 will crush Igloo. FACT. How many came over I forgot...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 24 will crush Igloo. FACT. How many came over I forgot...

So old Igloo beats new igloo?

These kids are 9 and 10 years old. And you're a loser for the above text I quoted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 24 will crush Igloo. FACT. How many came over I forgot...

So old Igloo beats new igloo?

These kids are 9 and 10 years old. And you're a loser for the above text I quoted.

Maybe you should bring your kid over as well. Let him play with winners

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils blow. Waste of money to play for that team....

Your just some low life troll who knows nothing. You have a sad and lonely life. Nothing better to do than make up negative comments about youth teams. I pity you. Crawl back under your rock. No one here is interested in your negative commentary.

Did I touch a nerve??? Realize you pay too much and live in the shadow of the geese??? You clearly are interested hence your response. Face it. That team is horrible.

Too funny!!! You don't even realize who you are talking to.
If you have a kid on the geese, you should be kicked off if your insulting a team in the same organisation. Get lost jerk.

Who I am talking to?? Wait I know a fool... Be sure to get to practice early to fill the water bottles for the geese. [/quote]

Bye trash.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blue Devils blow. Waste of money to play for that team....

Your just some low life troll who knows nothing. You have a sad and lonely life. Nothing better to do than make up negative comments about youth teams. I pity you. Crawl back under your rock. No one here is interested in your negative commentary.

Did I touch a nerve??? Realize you pay too much and live in the shadow of the geese??? You clearly are interested hence your response. Face it. That team is horrible.

Too funny!!! You don't even realize who you are talking to.
If you have a kid on the geese, you should be kicked off if your insulting a team in the same organisation. Get lost jerk.

Who I am talking to?? Wait I know a fool... Be sure to get to practice early to fill the water bottles for the geese.

Bye trash. [/quote]

That was weak like the Blue Devils.

Where's the Legacy coaching list?

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

They need help. Get rid of the defensive coach. He's not good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Boo Hoo Wa wa Mama Goose.. Get over it and move on.. No one cares about your issues.. Time to find another nest for your little golden egg.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

The Geese had more than one coach who made
it what it is, and he is still there. It needed change
and that's what is happening. Finally!!

Anybody have any experience with mamas boyz?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody have any experience with mamas boyz?

They have a really good team at this age group. Not a Blast or a Geese level but competitive, great coaches (neither of which has a child on the team) and a great group of boys and families. They had a lot of success last summer. No controversy, no infighting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

You haven't seen anything yet. If you don't like whats going on, either try to change the set, or move to a new set.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody have any experience with mamas boyz?

Never played on the team, but what they stand for is Great!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Boo Hoo Wa wa Mama Goose.. Get over it and move on.. No one cares about your issues.. Time to find another nest for your little golden egg.

Don't hold anything in.Let it all out.lmao

You sound pretty angry.

The fact is the Geese will be lead for the 4th straight year by former Umass Tewaaraton finalist Chris Fiore. He also played in the MLL for the Lizards.
Great person and coach who is amazing with kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody have any experience with mamas boyz?

My sons team played them. Solid B team and parents seemed cool.

Yes. The Coach is a great guy. Varsity lacrosse coach for Mattituck HS. And there are some talented kids on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody have any experience with mamas boyz?

My son's team played them this summer. They are a B+ team more or less (note that I hate these distinctions - just using them because they seem to be the currency of this board). They move the ball extremely well - lots of passing, very little ball hogging. At a tournament like Lax Fest, which I have been to many years running, they would be in the mix for championship game in the B division, but would have a losing record for sure in A, and would get smoked in some of those games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Sounds like someone just got the bad news from the coach. Reality finally hit you in the face, it stings doesn’t it. Well at least your child will have more time for training..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

The Geese had more than one coach who made
it what it is, and he is still there. It needed change
and that's what is happening. Finally!!

So which coach are we talking about? And did he leave Legacy or is he coaching a different team in Legacy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Sounds like someone just got the bad news from the coach. Reality finally hit you in the face, it stings doesn’t it. Well at least your child will have more time for training..

Sounds like a big fat roster and a coaching change for a team of mediocre players that at one time had good coaching to keep them afloat. Another nail in the coffin while the train keeps on getting better and better watching you fools eat your own young.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Sounds like someone just got the bad news from the coach. Reality finally hit you in the face, it stings doesn’t it. Well at least your child will have more time for training..

Sounds like a big fat roster and a coaching change for a team of mediocre players that at one time had good coaching to keep them afloat. Another nail in the coffin while the train keeps on getting better and better watching you fools eat your own young.

Do you mean as the old man shines his pearly whites on your dime..LOL keep paying to stand on the sidelines.. I guess there is one born every minute.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Sounds like someone just got the bad news from the coach. Reality finally hit you in the face, it stings doesn’t it. Well at least your child will have more time for training..

Mama Goose should mind her own business. Just proved that [lacrosse] kissing got you nowhere. Bye bye

Anyone have any idea when 9D1 will post their roster?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any idea when 9D1 will post their roster?

Last I saw it, it was in the toilet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any idea when 9D1 will post their roster?

Invites went out by email for Blast around 12:30 PM today. Not sure about other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any idea when 9D1 will post their roster?

Invites went out by email for Blast around 12:30 PM today. Not sure about other teams.

I was told they reached out to some kids that were not at tryouts and were waiting on them. Seems strange, but I guess there's a lot of pressure on them to win. I spoke to 4 other parents after the second tryout and it turns out we were all told our boys will be starting midfielders. I'm no genius, but I'm pretty certain that's not possible. Makes me wonder who else they told.

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Both teams were very poorly coached.stay with PAL and save yourself the money

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

9D1 second team last year was called Ice, and was incredibly uncompetitive. But in 2016 they were an excellent B team. The roster from 2016 to 2017 must have changed significantly. So, if its last years Ice, stay away. But 2016 shows that they are capable of having a good second team. If the roster can go that far south in one year, presumably it can come back strong one year later. The only real way to know if to have watched tryouts to see if there is talent - but was probably hard to do given that it was probably also the tryout for Blast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I would send him to Empire Green.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I would send him to Empire Green.

It was an absolute debacle. There’s no other way to describe it. No way it gets that much better in a season. The organization should be ashamed of themselves for handling it the way they did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Go to Express at this age and you'll be very happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I would send him to Empire Green.

That would be a mistake without doing some homework first. Empire was not good last year. Ice was terrible too, but they have shown if they get the right guys in place to coach, then there is hope. One of the better kids now on Blast played for Ice and they noticed. My advice, call, ask who the Coaches are, make sure you get a straight answer and then decide. The best thing about 91 for a first time kid is that they will do their winter training program which is VERY GOOD. When you are there you and your son can see what the difference is and really gauge if he can step it up. At least after the year you will have a basis to compare.

But if they don't tell you who is coaching at either organization and if they don't impress you go the other way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any idea when 9D1 will post their roster?

Last I saw it, it was in the toilet.

Stop with the madness. Everyone hates on Blast. Great team. Great kids and families Got outcoached this year on more than one occasion. Haters gon hate. People always hate on winners. People hate on Yankees. People hate on Patriots. People hate on Blast. Cant win em all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Sounds like someone just got the bad news from the coach. Reality finally hit you in the face, it stings doesn’t it. Well at least your child will have more time for training..

Stop the madness. 48 hours ago the Geese were falling apart and better players were scattering. Now everyone hugging it out. Keep believing the lies. Golden geese= The Fragile Eggs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Sounds like someone just got the bad news from the coach. Reality finally hit you in the face, it stings doesn’t it. Well at least your child will have more time for training..

Stop the madness. 48 hours ago the Geese were falling apart and better players were scattering. Now everyone hugging it out. Keep believing the lies. Golden geese= The Fragile Eggs

They weren't lies. Your boys were shopping.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any idea when 9D1 will post their roster?

Last I saw it, it was in the toilet.

Stop with the madness. Everyone hates on Blast. Great team. Great kids and families Got outcoached this year on more than one occasion. Haters gon hate. People always hate on winners. People hate on Yankees. People hate on Patriots. People hate on Blast. Cant win em all.

Flush!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

My son was told he would be a starting attackman if he came. I guess they told that to everyone. That is total crap and that's exactly why we are staying with Express. Anyone that promises you that your kid is going to start before even seeing the full team practice is lying to your face. The coaches on Blast are salesman whose jobs are to fill the 91 coffers.

When the lies and deceit begin at tryouts, you had better buckle in and get ready for another bumpy ride Blastards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese will not commit to coach list because the daddy control freaks pushed there number 1 coach out, they should be ashamed as an organization what they are allowing to happen. Geese has turned into dad's running the show and there friend the money man standing behind them for support, meanwhile the coach who gave his all and made the geese who they are was basically pushed out! I feel for these boys who have a bond and will no longer have him.

Sounds like someone just got the bad news from the coach. Reality finally hit you in the face, it stings doesn’t it. Well at least your child will have more time for training..

Stop the madness. 48 hours ago the Geese were falling apart and better players were scattering. Now everyone hugging it out. Keep believing the lies. Golden geese= The Fragile Eggs

Geese are still the team to beat!! Come gets some!! Mama Goose is serving it up for everyone!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

My son was told he would be a starting attackman if he came. I guess they told that to everyone. That is total crap and that's exactly why we are staying with Express. Anyone that promises you that your kid is going to start before even seeing the full team practice is lying to your face. The coaches on Blast are salesman whose jobs are to fill the 91 coffers.

When the lies and deceit begin at tryouts, you had better buckle in and get ready for another bumpy ride Blastards.

They all called around, don't kid yourself, it's part of the business of winning.

And you know Express brought in kids before tryouts and guaranteed spots to players from both Blast and Geese. And beyond that, do you really believe Channey didn't make any calls? I know he called me and said directly that I didn't need to pay for my son to tryout and then he had the balls to ask if I could bring other kids who would pay.

And I'm sure "they" told your son, but not you that he would start, yeah I'm sure that's what happened the coaches just walked right up and told your little Rob Pannel that when they begged him to come. By the way, I saw your kid, he certainly isn't good enough to start, or from what I can tell even play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

My son was told he would be a starting attackman if he came. I guess they told that to everyone. That is total crap and that's exactly why we are staying with Express. Anyone that promises you that your kid is going to start before even seeing the full team practice is lying to your face. The coaches on Blast are salesman whose jobs are to fill the 91 coffers.

When the lies and deceit begin at tryouts, you had better buckle in and get ready for another bumpy ride Blastards.

They all called around, don't kid yourself, it's part of the business of winning.

And you know Express brought in kids before tryouts and guaranteed spots to players from both Blast and Geese. And beyond that, do you really believe Channey didn't make any calls? I know he called me and said directly that I didn't need to pay for my son to tryout and then he had the balls to ask if I could bring other kids who would pay.

And I'm sure "they" told your son, but not you that he would start, yeah I'm sure that's what happened the coaches just walked right up and told your little Rob Pannel that when they begged him to come. By the way, I saw your kid, he certainly isn't good enough to start, or from what I can tell even play.

I know how it works, [lacrosse] Blaster. The coaches approached me, ME, after the second tryout and told me they want my son on the team and that he would be a starter. You don't know me or my kid. But it sounds like you're a little pissed that he was offered a starting attack spot. I'm guessing your kid plays attack, or at least he did last year. Don't worry, he'll probably still play a few minutes a game next season.

Wow tryouts are so much fun!

Lunatics. I feel bad for your kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

My son was told he would be a starting attackman if he came. I guess they told that to everyone. That is total crap and that's exactly why we are staying with Express. Anyone that promises you that your kid is going to start before even seeing the full team practice is lying to your face. The coaches on Blast are salesman whose jobs are to fill the 91 coffers.

When the lies and deceit begin at tryouts, you had better buckle in and get ready for another bumpy ride Blastards.

They all called around, don't kid yourself, it's part of the business of winning.

And you know Express brought in kids before tryouts and guaranteed spots to players from both Blast and Geese. And beyond that, do you really believe Channey didn't make any calls? I know he called me and said directly that I didn't need to pay for my son to tryout and then he had the balls to ask if I could bring other kids who would pay.

And I'm sure "they" told your son, but not you that he would start, yeah I'm sure that's what happened the coaches just walked right up and told your little Rob Pannel that when they begged him to come. By the way, I saw your kid, he certainly isn't good enough to start, or from what I can tell even play.

Sorry, challenge. I highly doubt that is true. First I find it unlikely that you would expose your identity with that story and second nobody trys out for free.

LMAO. This is funny. Crazy never sleeps

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

My son was told he would be a starting attackman if he came. I guess they told that to everyone. That is total crap and that's exactly why we are staying with Express. Anyone that promises you that your kid is going to start before even seeing the full team practice is lying to your face. The coaches on Blast are salesman whose jobs are to fill the 91 coffers.

When the lies and deceit begin at tryouts, you had better buckle in and get ready for another bumpy ride Blastards.

They all called around, don't kid yourself, it's part of the business of winning.

And you know Express brought in kids before tryouts and guaranteed spots to players from both Blast and Geese. And beyond that, do you really believe Channey didn't make any calls? I know he called me and said directly that I didn't need to pay for my son to tryout and then he had the balls to ask if I could bring other kids who would pay.

And I'm sure "they" told your son, but not you that he would start, yeah I'm sure that's what happened the coaches just walked right up and told your little Rob Pannel that when they begged him to come. By the way, I saw your kid, he certainly isn't good enough to start, or from what I can tell even play.

I know how it works, [lacrosse] Blaster. The coaches approached me, ME, after the second tryout and told me they want my son on the team and that he would be a starter. You don't know me or my kid. But it sounds like you're a little pissed that he was offered a starting attack spot. I'm guessing your kid plays attack, or at least he did last year. Don't worry, he'll probably still play a few minutes a game next season.

Too freaking funny, now we all know how delusional you are. That Never Happened and you know it. During tryouts, my son pointed out your kid to tell me how soft he is. Maybe back in Channey world your son will get to catch a pass from the ball hog middies if he hasn't been replaced with the new OLDER kids.

What a waste of 4K!

As an outsider, it's fun watching 91 & Express parents go at it..
One of the classiest things I've ever seen was when 91 got beat in overtime in at NLF and Express kids starting cheering. A 91 mom started yelling at the Express kids. They are 9 and 10-year-olds.. You both have great teams and programs, shut up and enjoy what you have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As an outsider, it's fun watching 91 & Express parents go at it..
One of the classiest things I've ever seen was when 91 got beat in overtime in at NLF and Express kids starting cheering. A 91 mom started yelling at the Express kids. They are 9 and 10-year-olds.. You both have great teams and programs, shut up and enjoy what you have.

It wasn't the best kids doing that, it was the scrubs. The best seek out the challenge, the hangers on and their parents, who say "we" when describing the team, were relieved to avoid one last run for the year.

Blast could have avoided the embarrassment by winning, but it's history! New season, new teams.

Did you just call 10-year-olds "scrubs"? I hope you are not Express parent. It would be funny if your 5'5" and your wife is 5'2" and these "scrubs" are 6" taller than your kid in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you just call 10-year-olds "scrubs"? I hope you are not Express parent. It would be funny if your 5'5" and your wife is 5'2" and these "scrubs" are 6" taller than your kid in high school.

Why? Scrubs are a good way to describe anyone, kid or otherwise, who contributes nothing to a team other than fodder to practice on. The good kids have class. They don't need to brag. The scrubs don't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you just call 10-year-olds "scrubs"? I hope you are not Express parent. It would be funny if your 5'5" and your wife is 5'2" and these "scrubs" are 6" taller than your kid in high school.

Why? Scrubs are a good way to describe anyone, kid or otherwise, who contributes nothing to a team other than fodder to practice on. The good kids have class. They don't need to brag. The scrubs don't.

By your definition, you're a short scrub? "good "people" have class. scrubs don't" and your only 5'5"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you just call 10-year-olds "scrubs"? I hope you are not Express parent. It would be funny if your 5'5" and your wife is 5'2" and these "scrubs" are 6" taller than your kid in high school.

Why? Scrubs are a good way to describe anyone, kid or otherwise, who contributes nothing to a team other than fodder to practice on. The good kids have class. They don't need to brag. The scrubs don't.

You are a real special kind of *sshole. You're probably the guy that didn't hand in his high school jersey at the end of the season and now has it framed in his "man cave".

Can we please get a "like" button on this forum??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you just call 10-year-olds "scrubs"? I hope you are not Express parent. It would be funny if your 5'5" and your wife is 5'2" and these "scrubs" are 6" taller than your kid in high school.

Why? Scrubs are a good way to describe anyone, kid or otherwise, who contributes nothing to a team other than fodder to practice on. The good kids have class. They don't need to brag. The scrubs don't.

You are about as despicable a human being as I've seen on BOTC, and that's saying a lot. What a piece of [lacrosse] you are!

I hope your kidding.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you just call 10-year-olds "scrubs"? I hope you are not Express parent. It would be funny if your 5'5" and your wife is 5'2" and these "scrubs" are 6" taller than your kid in high school.

Why? Scrubs are a good way to describe anyone, kid or otherwise, who contributes nothing to a team other than fodder to practice on. The good kids have class. They don't need to brag. The scrubs don't.

You are a real special kind of *sshole. You're probably the guy that didn't hand in his high school jersey at the end of the season and now has it framed in his "man cave".

That dude doesn't have an old jersey because he. Ever played anything more than little league baseball. No one who played at any level above JV would ever describe his teammates as scrubs. What a loser, hope your a step dad, because your kid got a real piece of sh*t for a dad otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you just call 10-year-olds "scrubs"? I hope you are not Express parent. It would be funny if your 5'5" and your wife is 5'2" and these "scrubs" are 6" taller than your kid in high school.

Why? Scrubs are a good way to describe anyone, kid or otherwise, who contributes nothing to a team other than fodder to practice on. The good kids have class. They don't need to brag. The scrubs don't.

You are a real special kind of *sshole. You're probably the guy that didn't hand in his high school jersey at the end of the season and now has it framed in his "man cave".

That dude doesn't have an old jersey because he. Ever played anything more than little league baseball. No one who played at any level above JV would ever describe his teammates as scrubs. What a loser, hope your a step dad, because your kid got a real piece of sh*t for a dad otherwise.

Scrub dad has his panties in a bunch. Junior doesn't play much? Give Channy some more money that might change if you can afford it, scrub. Or you could spend that time teaching scrub junior some manners. Then you can leave Scrubville and live happily ever after like a fairy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you just call 10-year-olds "scrubs"? I hope you are not Express parent. It would be funny if your 5'5" and your wife is 5'2" and these "scrubs" are 6" taller than your kid in high school.

Why? Scrubs are a good way to describe anyone, kid or otherwise, who contributes nothing to a team other than fodder to practice on. The good kids have class. They don't need to brag. The scrubs don't.

You are a real special kind of *sshole. You're probably the guy that didn't hand in his high school jersey at the end of the season and now has it framed in his "man cave".

That dude doesn't have an old jersey because he. Ever played anything more than little league baseball. No one who played at any level above JV would ever describe his teammates as scrubs. What a loser, hope your a step dad, because your kid got a real piece of sh*t for a dad otherwise.

Wow, were you a scrub in High School? Or were you the kid keeping the stats book?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many kids do most teams roster? Any feedback from actual team parents?

It varies, because some parents like the practice that A teams have and think their son will improve. I guess it's hard to argue because the more practice the better.

Teams in my opinion should have a max size of:

2 Goalies
6 poles
9 middies is the max. Rotating 3 lines is tough, but a good coach will make it work. Let the kids and parents know that bench will shorten in the last 5 minutes in tight games. The only time this gets sticky is when there is a game with a lot of flags. Then the lines get short shifted. But no more than 9 should be on the team. Also with 9 mids you can develop a D mid or LSM at this age to make it work.
6 attack

Any more than that and then playing time becomes an issue and you must decide is the practice time worth being on the team. To each his own.

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

5 attack, 7 mids, 5 poles, 2 goalies.

There's no way that alll he took. Must be 10 more that will never see the field. Otherwise he would have 3 teams.

This is nuts all this talk about the big clubs. Wow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's no way that alll he took. Must be 10 more that will never see the field. Otherwise he would have 3 teams.

That was a joke... as to say why ask.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

5 attack, 7 mids, 5 poles, 2 goalies.

You are a little short...The roster has 22 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

5 attack, 7 mids, 5 poles, 2 goalies.

You are a little short...The roster has 22 kids

You are still a little short. 30 kids to start the season. Most, if not all the kids are returning from last year and he added a few.

good luck with the main addition ....... CRAZY PEOPLE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

5 attack, 7 mids, 5 poles, 2 goalies.

You are a little short...The roster has 22 kids

You are still a little short. 30 kids to start the season. Most, if not all the kids are returning from last year and he added a few.

So insightful. Most top teams return their players and add a few as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

5 attack, 7 mids, 5 poles, 2 goalies.

You are a little short...The roster has 22 kids

You are still a little short. 30 kids to start the season. Most, if not all the kids are returning from last year and he added a few.

So insightful. Most top teams return their players and add a few as well.

awe, are you mad b/c little johnny didnt make the A team or just bitter in life. Probably both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

5 attack, 7 mids, 5 poles, 2 goalies.

You are a little short...The roster has 22 kids

You are still a little short. 30 kids to start the season. Most, if not all the kids are returning from last year and he added a few.

So insightful. Most top teams return their players and add a few as well.

awe, are you mad b/c little johnny didnt make the A team or just bitter in life. Probably both.

Its not an A team if they have more than 22 kids on it.......A team with half a B team. If your kid doesn't start or first in off bench you are part of the B team just supplementing the tuition of the top players.

Thanks for clearing that up for us Einstein.

Come on everyone knows who would write a comment like that Mr. Daddy want to be BIG Shot" who thinks he is a coach

Bigger than the coach. Forced his way on to one team and now trying to remodel the second

Where is the mixed nuts guy when we need him?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

5 attack, 7 mids, 5 poles, 2 goalies.

You are a little short...The roster has 22 kids

You are still a little short. 30 kids to start the season. Most, if not all the kids are returning from last year and he added a few.

So insightful. Most top teams return their players and add a few as well.

awe, are you mad b/c little johnny didnt make the A team or just bitter in life. Probably both.

More insightful amd helpful commentary

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the 9D1 second team? I heard bad things about last year's team but I also heard they made some changes. My oldest is on 9D1 but my youngest has to decide between the second team or Empire Green. This will be his first travel team. Any informative thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

My son was told he would be a starting attackman if he came. I guess they told that to everyone. That is total crap and that's exactly why we are staying with Express. Anyone that promises you that your kid is going to start before even seeing the full team practice is lying to your face. The coaches on Blast are salesman whose jobs are to fill the 91 coffers.

When the lies and deceit begin at tryouts, you had better buckle in and get ready for another bumpy ride Blastards.

They all called around, don't kid yourself, it's part of the business of winning.

And you know Express brought in kids before tryouts and guaranteed spots to players from both Blast and Geese. And beyond that, do you really believe Channey didn't make any calls? I know he called me and said directly that I didn't need to pay for my son to tryout and then he had the balls to ask if I could bring other kids who would pay.

And I'm sure "they" told your son, but not you that he would start, yeah I'm sure that's what happened the coaches just walked right up and told your little Rob Pannel that when they begged him to come. By the way, I saw your kid, he certainly isn't good enough to start, or from what I can tell even play.

I know how it works, [lacrosse] Blaster. The coaches approached me, ME, after the second tryout and told me they want my son on the team and that he would be a starter. You don't know me or my kid. But it sounds like you're a little pissed that he was offered a starting attack spot. I'm guessing your kid plays attack, or at least he did last year. Don't worry, he'll probably still play a few minutes a game next season.

Too freaking funny, now we all know how delusional you are. That Never Happened and you know it. During tryouts, my son pointed out your kid to tell me how soft he is. Maybe back in Channey world your son will get to catch a pass from the ball hog middies if he hasn't been replaced with the new OLDER kids.

What a waste of 4K!

You mean Same AGE kids!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

My son is one of them, and he will get plenty of playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

My son is one of them, and he will get plenty of playing time.

You mean the sixth graders playing down against fifth graders, the fantasy hold backs. How embarrassing and shameful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

My son is one of them, and he will get plenty of playing time.

You mean the sixth graders playing down against fifth graders, the fantasy hold backs. How embarrassing and shameful.

Think you are putting the cart before the horse, go directly to our coach if you have a problem. Oh, I forgot, little Ben's playing time will be cut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

My son is one of them, and he will get plenty of playing time.

BS post by a sh*t stirrer...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

My son is one of them, and he will get plenty of playing time.

You mean the sixth graders playing down against fifth graders, the fantasy hold backs. How embarrassing and shameful.

They are the same age as the kids they are playing against which is why they can reclassify so what is the big deal?

.[/quote]

You mean the sixth graders playing down against fifth graders, the fantasy hold backs. How embarrassing and shameful.
[/quote]

They are the same age as the kids they are playing against which is why they can reclassify so what is the big deal?[/quote]

Reclassification of grade is not age - for 99.9% of reclassed, that means they are older than the kids they have reclassed to. Class = grade, not age.

They are the same age as the kids they are playing against which is why they can reclassify so what is the big deal?

Are they in sixth grade 2024 or not? Simple question. Asked differently, is the kid graduating High School in 2024 or 2025?
They are not the same age, THEY ARE OLDER!
Reclassify is a made up term for cheating if the boy hasn't been held back a grade in school.

Now I generally don't like hold backs, but under the system, the kid is playing by the rules as they stand.
But this phony holdback system that folks are trying out this year is really the biggest scum move of all.

The best part is this usually doesn't become a debate until much later grades on BOTC. We will be discussing the same thing until this age graduates. Egaaaaad.... I can tell you the ones that hate it, call it cheating, the ones that are neutral, say its within the rule, and the one's that encourage it, are doing what's best for their kid. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and are free to do they see fit. And guess what...the system ain't changing.

Next topic. What clubs are playing on Columbus Day? Obviously the Leggy teams will be there. Express has been a big participant in the past as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is this usually doesn't become a debate until much later grades on BOTC. We will be discussing the same thing until this age graduates. Egaaaaad.... I can tell you the ones that hate it, call it cheating, the ones that are neutral, say its within the rule, and the one's that encourage it, are doing what's best for their kid. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and are free to do they see fit. And guess what...the system ain't changing.

Next topic. What clubs are playing on Columbus Day? Obviously the Leggy teams will be there. Express has been a big participant in the past as well.

It's changing at the pre-HS ages - ignore at your own peril.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

Yes they are both playing new not with Chan us team...one stayed 2024 express B and one left express for another 2024 program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

Yes they are both playing new not with Chan us team...one stayed 2024 express B and one left express for another 2024 program.

Good for them! A little integrity, stop the madness, no need to race to the bottom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how many kids on Channy's roster to start?

I was told that 2 of the reclassified kids were not playing this year.

Unless your son is on the team, why do you care? If your son is, just ask?

What's the point? He won't give you a straight answer.
And yes the 2 reclassified kids are playing.

Yes they are both playing new not with Chan us team...one stayed 2024 express B and one left express for another 2024 program.

Good for them! A little integrity, stop the madness, no need to race to the bottom.

Still better than Blast

BLAST IS A COMPLETE DISASTER .. THE PEOPLE THAT WENT BACK WILL AGAIN BE UNHAPPY WITH THE PRODUCT BUT THEY CAN NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT IT ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU KNEW GOING INTO IT WHAT YOU HAD.. GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE KIDS THIS YEAR

Why is it such a disaster?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it such a disaster?

My insight is only from reading BOTC. But inconsistant coaching year to year is tough. I wouldn't say disaster because I don't know. But let's give them (young athletes) a chance to succeed before hitting the replay button on old posts.

Agreed. I've seen them play, they look like a pretty talented group of boys. I do hoping the coaching stabilizes for them.

Anyone hear Anyhing on Mixed Nuts tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone hear Anyhing on Mixed Nuts tryouts?

Yes please submit video, transcripts, and two coaching recommendations to #kingnut to receive an invite to tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone hear Anyhing on Mixed Nuts tryouts?

They were held last week at Metlife Stadium. Best team Best Parents Worst Gear!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone hear Anyhing on Mixed Nuts tryouts?

its a pick up team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone hear Anyhing on Mixed Nuts tryouts?

its a pick up team

Best damn pickup team around! By far!

Your insight from what you have read on Back of the Cage? You realize half of everything you read on here is just some parent's BS, right? This is a team that won 90% of their games and several losses were in overtime situations? Calling them a disaster when you know NOTHING about them is pretty harsh if not just plain ignorant. Do some research and remember these are 10 year old kids you are criticizing. Let's see what this year brings.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your insight from what you have read on Back of the Cage? You realize half of everything you read on here is just some parent's BS, right? This is a team that won 90% of their games and several losses were in overtime situations? Calling them a disaster when you know NOTHING about them is pretty harsh if not just plain ignorant. Do some research and remember these are 10 year old kids you are criticizing. Let's see what this year brings.......

These are very talented boys but I'm afraid you aren't going to get the coaching commitment you are expecting. As much as you all complained last year you got a lot of practice/training. You won't get that same commitment this year. He's not a big practice guy. 1 practice a week, 1 hour at the most.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your insight from what you have read on Back of the Cage? You realize half of everything you read on here is just some parent's BS, right? This is a team that won 90% of their games and several losses were in overtime situations? Calling them a disaster when you know NOTHING about them is pretty harsh if not just plain ignorant. Do some research and remember these are 10 year old kids you are criticizing. Let's see what this year brings.......

These are very talented boys but I'm afraid you aren't going to get the coaching commitment you are expecting. As much as you all complained last year you got a lot of practice/training. You won't get that same commitment this year. He's not a big practice guy. 1 practice a week, 1 hour at the most.

There were 2 last week. Almost 2 hours. Where the [lacrosse] u get yout info bozo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your insight from what you have read on Back of the Cage? You realize half of everything you read on here is just some parent's BS, right? This is a team that won 90% of their games and several losses were in overtime situations? Calling them a disaster when you know NOTHING about them is pretty harsh if not just plain ignorant. Do some research and remember these are 10 year old kids you are criticizing. Let's see what this year brings.......

These are very talented boys but I'm afraid you aren't going to get the coaching commitment you are expecting. As much as you all complained last year you got a lot of practice/training. You won't get that same commitment this year. He's not a big practice guy. 1 practice a week, 1 hour at the most.

So says the bitter WI transfers. Too funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it such a disaster?

Disaster might be overstating; however, I would expect them to take a step back from last season due to solid players leaving (Blast parents can say what they want, but the truth is they lost two of their top players)and another coaching change. It's very tough to create continuity and substantiate growth when different coachs/ideologies are brought in year after year. What is likely the case is that the assistant coach from last year will act as the head coach this year. The two new coaches that they brought on coach an older team of largely uncommitted juniors so their focus will likely be to get them their looks first. Also, one of them is bringing his kid on the team, which means that they are gaining another daddy coach.

Obviously, this is just speculation and things could go totally fine. I with all of our boys good luck this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it such a disaster?

Disaster might be overstating; however, I would expect them to take a step back from last season due to solid players leaving (Blast parents can say what they want, but the truth is they lost two of their top players)and another coaching change. It's very tough to create continuity and substantiate growth when different coachs/ideologies are brought in year after year. What is likely the case is that the assistant coach from last year will act as the head coach this year. The two new coaches that they brought on coach an older team of largely uncommitted juniors so their focus will likely be to get them their looks first. Also, one of them is bringing his kid on the team, which means that they are gaining another daddy coach.

Obviously, this is just speculation and things could go totally fine. I with all of our boys good luck this season.

The boys will make their own luck. Talk is cheap. Let's see what it all looks like in July. I expect steps forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it such a disaster?

Disaster might be overstating; however, I would expect them to take a step back from last season due to solid players leaving (Blast parents can say what they want, but the truth is they lost two of their top players)and another coaching change. It's very tough to create continuity and substantiate growth when different coachs/ideologies are brought in year after year. What is likely the case is that the assistant coach from last year will act as the head coach this year. The two new coaches that they brought on coach an older team of largely uncommitted juniors so their focus will likely be to get them their looks first. Also, one of them is bringing his kid on the team, which means that they are gaining another daddy coach.

Obviously, this is just speculation and things could go totally fine. I with all of our boys good luck this season.

Which one is bringing his own kid?

None of the new coaches are bringing a kid to the team. Nice try, though. Talk is cheap everyone. Let's just see where everyone falls in the Spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the new coaches are bringing a kid to the team. Nice try, though. Talk is cheap everyone. Let's just see where everyone falls in the Spring.

Spring, so I guess fall season mean nothing. Oh right fall ball is useless!!

The new kid is named Mac

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The new kid is named Mac

He is playing down!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it such a disaster?

Disaster might be overstating; however, I would expect them to take a step back from last season due to solid players leaving (Blast parents can say what they want, but the truth is they lost two of their top players)and another coaching change. It's very tough to create continuity and substantiate growth when different coachs/ideologies are brought in year after year. What is likely the case is that the assistant coach from last year will act as the head coach this year. The two new coaches that they brought on coach an older team of largely uncommitted juniors so their focus will likely be to get them their looks first. Also, one of them is bringing his kid on the team, which means that they are gaining another daddy coach.

Obviously, this is just speculation and things could go totally fine. I with all of our boys good luck this season.

You have blast confused with geese, they are the ones who recruited a daddy coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The new kid is named Mac

That's his nickname, yes. His dad is coaching. He coaches a 2019 team with O'keefe. Funny how after that post 91 changed the coaches on the website!!! I guess they didn't get all of their deposits yet!! Mule will be around for a few weeks then he'll be a memory, Blastards. Be sure to take his picture so you can remember him.

Obsession obsession obsession obsession obsession obsession obsession obsession obsession............

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The new kid is named Mac

That's his nickname, yes. His dad is coaching. He coaches a 2019 team with O'keefe. Funny how after that post 91 changed the coaches on the website!!! I guess they didn't get all of their deposits yet!! Mule will be around for a few weeks then he'll be a memory, Blastards. Be sure to take his picture so you can remember him.

That kid left for the Geese. So clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it such a disaster?

Disaster might be overstating; however, I would expect them to take a step back from last season due to solid players leaving (Blast parents can say what they want, but the truth is they lost two of their top players)and another coaching change. It's very tough to create continuity and substantiate growth when different coachs/ideologies are brought in year after year. What is likely the case is that the assistant coach from last year will act as the head coach this year. The two new coaches that they brought on coach an older team of largely uncommitted juniors so their focus will likely be to get them their looks first. Also, one of them is bringing his kid on the team, which means that they are gaining another daddy coach.

Obviously, this is just speculation and things could go totally fine. I with all of our boys good luck this season.

You have blast confused with geese, they are the ones who recruited a daddy coach

Oh really, why don't you ask him how his coaching role is working out. He will see less time on the sideline as your kid does. Mama Goose has a better chance of hatching some more super star golden eggs then he has at coaching.. Blast is a sinking ship and the season has just started. Call Mixed Nuts for help, you can use it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it such a disaster?

Disaster might be overstating; however, I would expect them to take a step back from last season due to solid players leaving (Blast parents can say what they want, but the truth is they lost two of their top players)and another coaching change. It's very tough to create continuity and substantiate growth when different coachs/ideologies are brought in year after year. What is likely the case is that the assistant coach from last year will act as the head coach this year. The two new coaches that they brought on coach an older team of largely uncommitted juniors so their focus will likely be to get them their looks first. Also, one of them is bringing his kid on the team, which means that they are gaining another daddy coach.

Obviously, this is just speculation and things could go totally fine. I with all of our boys good luck this season.

You have blast confused with geese, they are the ones who recruited a daddy coach

Oh really, why don't you ask him how his coaching role is working out. He will see less time on the sideline as your kid does. Mama Goose has a better chance of hatching some more super star golden eggs then he has at coaching.. Blast is a sinking ship and the season has just started. Call Mixed Nuts for help, you can use it.

Mamas goose has been cooked

Oh really, why don't you ask him how his coaching role is working out. He will see less time on the sideline as your kid does. Mama Goose has a better chance of hatching some more super star golden eggs then he has at coaching.. Blast is a sinking ship and the season has just started. Call Mixed Nuts for help, you can use it.[/quote]

I need a translation for this post it's so incoherent.

The Anonymouses. We insult woman and kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh really, why don't you ask him how his coaching role is working out. He will see less time on the sideline as your kid does. Mama Goose has a better chance of hatching some more super star golden eggs then he has at coaching.. Blast is a sinking ship and the season has just started. Call Mixed Nuts for help, you can use it.

I need a translation for this post it's so incoherent.
[/quote]

I guess they are implying that the WI daddy coach is joining the geese sidelines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Anonymouses. We insult woman and kids.

She's no prize.more like a nuisance

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Anonymouses. We insult woman and kids.

Is that what we are callin her now. Haha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Anonymouses. We insult woman and kids.

Is that what we are callin her now. Haha

I'm embarrassed and mortified to even feel as if I associate myself with such losers that have no life. ASK ME I'LL SAY IT TO YOUR FACE. I cannot believe an association would even want parents like these people associated with their organization. #GETALIFELOSER #PEACEBEWITHYOU #PRAYFORYOUYOUNEEDIT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Anonymouses. We insult woman and kids.

Is that what we are callin her now. Haha

I'm embarrassed and mortified to even feel as if I associate myself with such losers that have no life. ASK ME I'LL SAY IT TO YOUR FACE. I cannot believe an association would even want parents like these people associated with their organization. #GETALIFELOSER #PEACEBEWITHYOU #PRAYFORYOUYOUNEEDIT

If she's going to talk smack about everyones kid on the sideline she better be able to take it.its a two way street.
#GETTHICKERSKIN

I see the turtle heads are trying to put a team together to go to dicks tournament in Tampa. They can't even field a team to play in LI tournaments. What joke!!

Will the other LI clubs participate in the [lacrosse] tourney? My son plays for an A team but don't know if this one is on the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the turtle heads are trying to put a team together to go to dicks tournament in Tampa. They can't even field a team to play in LI tournaments. What joke!!

They even have a big backer$$$ calling the shots!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the other LI clubs participate in the [lacrosse] tourney? My son plays for an A team but don't know if this one is on the list.

What about the tournament Legacy is putting together for 2025 and 2024 next summer? Selling it as a best in age tourney? 10+ "invited" teams to play at the Marina. I can't wait to see that invitation list.

I heard Cali, Maryland, NJ, Texas are all on the so called list.

Does anyone have any other details as most of what I've been told is third hand info?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the turtle heads are trying to put a team together to go to dicks tournament in Tampa. They can't even field a team to play in LI tournaments. What joke!!

They even have a big backer$$$ calling the shots!!

Sounds like someone is jealous /disgruntled. Don't worry with a little hard work your son may be invited one day

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the other LI clubs participate in the [lacrosse] tourney? My son plays for an A team but don't know if this one is on the list.

What about the tournament Legacy is putting together for 2025 and 2024 next summer? Selling it as a best in age tourney? 10+ "invited" teams to play at the Marina. I can't wait to see that invitation list.

I heard Cali, Maryland, NJ, Texas are all on the so called list.

Does anyone have any other details as most of what I've been told is third hand info?

Yes its the Charlie Brown Invitational. Should be a great tourney

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the other LI clubs participate in the [lacrosse] tourney? My son plays for an A team but don't know if this one is on the list.

What about the tournament Legacy is putting together for 2025 and 2024 next summer? Selling it as a best in age tourney? 10+ "invited" teams to play at the Marina. I can't wait to see that invitation list.

I heard Cali, Maryland, NJ, Texas are all on the so called list.

Does anyone have any other details as most of what I've been told is third hand info?

Yes its the Charlie Brown Invitational. Should be a great tourney

Never heard of it. Too many tourney's as is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the turtle heads are trying to put a team together to go to dicks tournament in Tampa. They can't even field a team to play in LI tournaments. What joke!!

They even have a big backer$$$ calling the shots!!

Nice job trying to stir the pot. Its quite obvious who you are.MAMA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the other LI clubs participate in the [lacrosse] tourney? My son plays for an A team but don't know if this one is on the list.

What about the tournament Legacy is putting together for 2025 and 2024 next summer? Selling it as a best in age tourney? 10+ "invited" teams to play at the Marina. I can't wait to see that invitation list.

I heard Cali, Maryland, NJ, Texas are all on the so called list.

Does anyone have any other details as most of what I've been told is third hand info?

Yes its the Charlie Brown Invitational. Should be a great tourney

Never heard of it. Too many tourney's as is.

Are there too many tourney's or not enough?

There are just enough tourney's around so "A" teams can dodge and weave and miraculously never really play each other.

why does mixed nuts play in B tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the other LI clubs participate in the [lacrosse] tourney? My son plays for an A team but don't know if this one is on the list.

What about the tournament Legacy is putting together for 2025 and 2024 next summer? Selling it as a best in age tourney? 10+ "invited" teams to play at the Marina. I can't wait to see that invitation list.

I heard Cali, Maryland, NJ, Texas are all on the so called list.

Does anyone have any other details as most of what I've been told is third hand info?

Yes its the Charlie Brown Invitational. Should be a great tourney

Says the Blast parent. Stop ripping off JS lines. He left your sorry complaining asses for dead. Why would you be quoting him? Suckers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

why does mixed nuts play in B tournaments?

Because they are not a real team.

But they're supposed to be the best team

Buddy. It's a pick up team of travel kids when they don't have tourneys with their own travel teams. The players change from tourney to tourney depending on which kids are available and want to play.

JS is a joke it is all about him and now wait for the new Blast coaches to follow his pathetic lead

i understand its a pick up team of golden geese and blast kids, but they're ruining the kids experience who are on B teams and are getting blown out by these mixed nuts or laxin around or laxin with friends

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i understand its a pick up team of golden geese and blast kids, but they're ruining the kids experience who are on B teams and are getting blown out by these mixed nuts or laxin around or laxin with friends

English please . . . ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i understand its a pick up team of golden geese and blast kids, but they're ruining the kids experience who are on B teams and are getting blown out by these mixed nuts or laxin around or laxin with friends

English please . . . ??

English? OK. You dads that live vicariously through your kids, you enter the Mixed Nuts/Laxin' With friends into B tourneys so your fat asses can get a t-shirt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i understand its a pick up team of golden geese and blast kids, but they're ruining the kids experience who are on B teams and are getting blown out by these mixed nuts or laxin around or laxin with friends

English please . . . ??

English? OK. You dads that live vicariously through your kids, you enter the Mixed Nuts/Laxin' With friends into B tourneys so your fat asses can get a t-shirt.

Last i remember it was the kids getting the t shirts.spend more time with your kid in the backyard. With a little hard work junior may be able to win a t shirt one day

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i understand its a pick up team of golden geese and blast kids, but they're ruining the kids experience who are on B teams and are getting blown out by these mixed nuts or laxin around or laxin with friends

English please . . . ??

English? OK. You dads that live vicariously through your kids, you enter the Mixed Nuts/Laxin' With friends into B tourneys so your fat asses can get a t-shirt.

Last i remember it was the kids getting the t shirts.spend more time with your kid in the backyard. With a little hard work junior may be able to win a t shirt one day

And your little Rabil will be holding water bottles in high school thinking about the old days of 10 year "A" lax. seen it 100 times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i understand its a pick up team of golden geese and blast kids, but they're ruining the kids experience who are on B teams and are getting blown out by these mixed nuts or laxin around or laxin with friends

English please . . . ??

English? OK. You dads that live vicariously through your kids, you enter the Mixed Nuts/Laxin' With friends into B tourneys so your fat asses can get a t-shirt.

I have no skin in the game - my kid doesn't play for either club referenced. I was just totally confused by your post due to its lack of punctuation and run-on sentence nature . . . !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i understand its a pick up team of golden geese and blast kids, but they're ruining the kids experience who are on B teams and are getting blown out by these mixed nuts or laxin around or laxin with friends

English please . . . ??

English? OK. You dads that live vicariously through your kids, you enter the Mixed Nuts/Laxin' With friends into B tourneys so your fat asses can get a t-shirt.

Last i remember it was the kids getting the t shirts.spend more time with your kid in the backyard. With a little hard work junior may be able to win a t shirt one day

I found my target audience- fat daddy. B tourney t-shirts to wash the car with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]i understand its a pick up team of golden geese and blast kids, but they're ruining the kids experience who are on B teams and are getting blown out by these mixed nuts or laxin around or laxin with friends

English please . . . ??

English? OK. You dads that live vicariously through your kids, you enter the Mixed Nuts/Laxin' With friends into B tourneys so your fat asses can get a t-shirt.

Last i remember it was the kids getting the t shirts.spend more time with your kid in the backyard. With a little hard work junior may be able to win a t shirt one day

I found my target audience- fat daddy. B tourney t-shirts to wash the car with. [/quote
your jealously is quite obvious since you continue to comment about it.

Laxin with friends is s great town team that has fun

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS is a joke it is all about him and now wait for the new Blast coaches to follow his pathetic lead

He bailed out as soon as Princess couldn't keep up. She should have never been there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxin with friends is s great town team that has fun

Which town?

i wouldn't exactly call them a town team since its travel kids, i'm glad they have fun, all we're saying is that they should play in A tournaments, against A teams

Let's just make one thing clear, the 'Nuts have never lost and have beaten the Dark Storm (SYAG losers) and the Express A team (Chammy/St. A's losers), plus any other team that is dumb enough to get in the way. Going forward, I would let 2nd place have the shirts, my little monster is only in it for the glory.

Come get some!

Great job . attention seeker.you have a great sense of humor

Dear BOTC-can we please keep the rule of not referring to specific kids consistent for ALL kids? I'm confused as to why sometimes it is allowed, and other times you intervene.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i wouldn't exactly call them a town team since its travel kids, i'm glad they have fun, all we're saying is that they should play in A tournaments, against A teams

Whats a B tourney?

The ones the big guys didn't play in so you were able to borrow their players and play coach for the day. The ones you would complain about if your A team ended up in because Little Rabil couldn't score enough goals in a blowout. The ones a real A team would play up in the 2024 A bracket and have the same results but you would still complain because little Rabil was checked to hard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's just make one thing clear, the 'Nuts have never lost and have beaten the Dark Storm (SYAG losers) and the Express A team (Chammy/St. A's losers), plus any other team that is dumb enough to get in the way. Going forward, I would let 2nd place have the shirts, my little monster is only in it for the glory.

Come get some!

Smh. So sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's just make one thing clear, the 'Nuts have never lost and have beaten the Dark Storm (SYAG losers) and the Express A team (Chammy/St. A's losers), plus any other team that is dumb enough to get in the way. Going forward, I would let 2nd place have the shirts, my little monster is only in it for the glory.

Come get some!

Smh. So sad

Buddy, get your little Rabil off the loser train and get with the 'Nuts! Just try and keep up! It's awesome baby!!

Come get some!

Funny stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

<yawn>

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

Nuts never beat dark storm, they tied the only time they ever faced each other. So I guess u can say nuts did not beat every team they faced. Looks like I got some guy. Haha now call the mule and ask when is the next blast practice. Have sonny get to work so maybe they can beat the train this year. We are rollin son!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

Nuts never beat dark storm, they tied the only time they ever faced each other. So I guess u can say nuts did not beat every team they faced. Looks like I got some guy. Haha now call the mule and ask when is the next blast practice. Have sonny get to work so maybe they can beat the train this year. We are rollin son!!!

Who took the championship and who went home? The Nuts are undisputed and undefeated 2025 Kings.
Come
Get
Some
Baby

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

We'll play when and where we want you loser! If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Mixed Nuts are the team to beat. Come get your can of Whup [lacrosse]!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

We'll play when and where we want you loser! If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Mixed Nuts are the team to beat. Come get your can of Whup [lacrosse]!

You guys should be the new coaches of blast. I know u guys think about it while sitting at blast practice. You guys would do a better job then the clowns they have now. Tell the mule to move over here comes the Nutzz. It would be the pat Med Sayville combo. Get in there G dogg

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

We'll play when and where we want you loser! If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Mixed Nuts are the team to beat. Come get your can of Whup [lacrosse]!

"A" teams never want to beat the best! That's just a T-shirt you wear to make yourself feel important. It's all about the trophies. You know you avoid certain tournaments until you know what teams are signed up.

Legacy is supposedly putting together a tourney for the age group that the best team will leave as Champion. Word is, most clubs won't commit. It's been this way since the beginning of time...and most will make up some age issue as to why their team lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

We'll play when and where we want you loser! If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Mixed Nuts are the team to beat. Come get your can of Whup [lacrosse]!

You guys should be the new coaches of blast. I know u guys think about it while sitting at blast practice. You guys would do a better job then the clowns they have now. Tell the mule to move over here comes the Nutzz. It would be the pat Med Sayville combo. Get in there G dogg

Can the owners of Mixed Nuts please hold a try out
I would love for my son to tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

We'll play when and where we want you loser! If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Mixed Nuts are the team to beat. Come get your can of Whup [lacrosse]!

You guys should be the new coaches of blast. I know u guys think about it while sitting at blast practice. You guys would do a better job then the clowns they have now. Tell the mule to move over here comes the Nutzz. It would be the pat Med Sayville combo. Get in there G dogg

91, Legacy and Express coaches all need to know their places and watch their backs. The 🥜 Are the supreme lax power, we don't need a club, our boys are locked and loaded! You will be met with fire and fury like the lax world has never seen!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny Stuff someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

We'll play when and where we want you loser! If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Mixed Nuts are the team to beat. Come get your can of Whup [lacrosse]!

You guys should be the new coaches of blast. I know u guys think about it while sitting at blast practice. You guys would do a better job then the clowns they have now. Tell the mule to move over here comes the Nutzz. It would be the pat Med Sayville combo. Get in there G dogg

I doubt this mixed butt nonsense is coming from one of the coaches. It's somebody laughing at us take the bait and continue comment. But all good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny S*** someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

We'll play when and where we want you loser! If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Mixed Nuts are the team to beat. Come get your can of Whup [lacrosse]!

You guys should be the new coaches of blast. I know u guys think about it while sitting at blast practice. You guys would do a better job then the clowns they have now. Tell the mule to move over here comes the Nutzz. It would be the pat Med Sayville combo. Get in there G dogg

I doubt this mixed butt nonsense is coming from one of the coaches. It's somebody laughing at us take the bait and continue comment. But all good.

It's so easy, it's like taking candy from a baby! You swear you don't want to answer this, but you know it eats at you that the 🥜 always bring it home whenever they show. They ruin your silly plans to establish dominance for junior and his teammates, but don't fear, just admire.

Give It Up For The Mixed Nuts Baby!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny S*** someone is making a statement that is not true my son plays for SYAG and never played DEEEZZZZZZ Nuts losers "DADS." Notice reply with class would never refer to children as losers.....

Dark storm are SYAG, stop the madness! There are the 'Nuts and then all of the rest. The sooner you get with the program the better. Fact is if the Nuts play then the 'ship is theirs!

Come get some.

It's no longer sad, because I can hear you giggling. Your opportunities to play are Columbus Day, Blatant and Octoberfest, win one of these this fall and then it's meaningful. Don't waste time bragging about playing in the Havoc, Mustang or Hecksher after Thanksgiving, just stick to coaching flag football.

We'll play when and where we want you loser! If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Mixed Nuts are the team to beat. Come get your can of Whup [lacrosse]!

You guys should be the new coaches of blast. I know u guys think about it while sitting at blast practice. You guys would do a better job then the clowns they have now. Tell the mule to move over here comes the Nutzz. It would be the pat Med Sayville combo. Get in there G dogg

91, Legacy and Express coaches all need to know their places and watch their backs. The 🥜 Are the supreme lax power, we don't need a club, our boys are locked and loaded! You will be met with fire and fury like the lax world has never seen!

More Jabberwocky poets of nutz

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Oh really and what team does your child play for?

Just an observation.....no dog in the fight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Thank you for confirming that there are.you are an idiot.blast/ mixed nuts = disasters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Thank you for confirming that there are.you are an idiot.blast/ mixed nuts = disasters

The best kids are on Mixed Nuts. Don't be a jealous hater.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Thank you for confirming that there are.you are an idiot.blast/ mixed nuts = disasters

From your grammar and coherence level, it would seem you are the disaster. Move on already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Thank you for confirming that there are.you are an idiot.blast/ mixed nuts = disasters

You say disasters, I would suggest Surpreme Masters! Stop being so bitter and jealous and acknowledge the Excellence!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Thank you for confirming that there are.you are an idiot.blast/ mixed nuts = disasters

You say disasters, I would suggest Surpreme Masters! Stop being so bitter and jealous and acknowledge the Excellence!

<yawn>

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Thank you for confirming that there are.you are an idiot.blast/ mixed nuts = disasters

You say disasters, I would suggest Surpreme Masters! Stop being so bitter and jealous and acknowledge the Excellence!

Geese and Express both at Columbus Day invitational. Email the team and "come get some" so we can witness this excellence like we have never seen. We will call ESPN as well so all can see this self proclaimed mastery. That way you don't have to tweet wall ball videos on Twitter...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Thank you for confirming that there are.you are an idiot.blast/ mixed nuts = disasters

You say disasters, I would suggest Surpreme Masters! Stop being so bitter and jealous and acknowledge the Excellence!

Geese and Express both at Columbus Day invitational. Email the team and "come get some" so we can witness this excellence like we have never seen. We will call ESPN as well so all can see this self proclaimed mastery. That way you don't have to tweet wall ball videos on Twitter...

Glad to see that you finally get it! But we play when we decide, not you. It's all good news as long as you are watching. Just try to keep up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please note that there are no Blast parents on here shooting their mouths off about anything. Just let the kids play. Maybe you guys should take a lesson in class from them. Just saying.......

Thank you for confirming that there are.you are an idiot.blast/ mixed nuts = disasters

You say disasters, I would suggest Surpreme Masters! Stop being so bitter and jealous and acknowledge the Excellence!

Geese and Express both at Columbus Day invitational. Email the team and "come get some" so we can witness this excellence like we have never seen. We will call ESPN as well so all can see this self proclaimed mastery. That way you don't have to tweet wall ball videos on Twitter...

Glad to see that you finally get it! But we play when we decide, not you. It's all good news as long as you are watching. Just try to keep up.

Not deciding anything. Just saying after all this chatter...But I get it. After all, your only downside is actually playing. It's better to let this go. That way the self proclaimed legend will continue to grow. Thanks for the entertainment.

"Thank you for confirming there are.you are an idiot.blast/mixed nuts = disasters"
Could someone translate this because it really makes no sense. It appears YOU should not be calling anyone an idiot. Just because you disagree with a statement, you should not go into "attack mode". Stop being a bully and see if you can speak in an intelligent way to support your opinion because perhaps more people would take you seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Thank you for confirming there are.you are an idiot.blast/mixed nuts = disasters"
Could someone translate this because it really makes no sense. It appears YOU should not be calling anyone an idiot. Just because you disagree with a statement, you should not go into "attack mode". Stop being a bully and see if you can speak in an intelligent way to support your opinion because perhaps more people would take you seriously.

Drunk texting after too many Amstels

Who cares about this nutz bullsh*t
True Blue playing Blatant this fall and will bring home the championship. Book it.

Now you can all go back to your boring lives.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about this nutz bullsh*t
True Blue playing Blatant this fall and will bring home the championship. Book it.

Now you can all go back to your boring lives.

True who?
Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
None of true whos teams are competitive in A .
You need your head examined

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about this nutz bullsh*t
True Blue playing Blatant this fall and will bring home the championship. Book it.

Now you can all go back to your boring lives.

The weed must be strong in Pequa......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about this nutz bullsh*t
True Blue playing Blatant this fall and will bring home the championship. Book it.

Now you can all go back to your boring lives.

That's great news. Express and 9! will beat them and we won't have to hear about True Blue for 10 months.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about this nutz bullsh*t
True Blue playing Blatant this fall and will bring home the championship. Book it.

Now you can all go back to your boring lives.

That's great news. Express and 9! will beat them and we won't have to hear about True Blue for 10 months.

That will not shut them up, they live in an alternate universe created by the foul mouth, fat slobs that run the organization. They will tell you how close of a loss it was! But it was only 8-2, but it was only 10-1! We are on our way! LMAO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about this nutz bullsh*t
True Blue playing Blatant this fall and will bring home the championship. Book it.

Now you can all go back to your boring lives.

True who?
Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
None of true whos teams are competitive in A .
You need your head examined

2024 and 2023 are. By summer 2025 will be also.

Has to be a troll. No parent from TB could be posting this. They know theyre not A with the thrashings they got at Lax Fest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about this nutz bullsh*t
True Blue playing Blatant this fall and will bring home the championship. Book it.

Now you can all go back to your boring lives.

True who?
Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
None of true whos teams are competitive in A .
You need your head examined

That might be true if you follow the totally asinine idea that A is comprised of like 3 - 5 team, but that doesn't make that whole concept any less dumb!

Not 3-5 at all just 3 and there is a lot of separation. Other than the Ducks and Igloo no Long Island team comes close. The next pack is led by one or more of the B teams.They parents may think they are on par until they see it for themselves and and have an oh crap moment. Seen it every tournament where somebody came over to size up one of those teams and were taken back. Then they found out the score was 10-0 and the kids were all playing with their off hands. Not about one kid or talent it is about team game and lax iq. These teams are far ahead as they have a strong core

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not 3-5 at all just 3 and there is a lot of separation. Other than the Ducks and Igloo no Long Island team comes close. The next pack is led by one or more of the B teams.They parents may think they are on par until they see it for themselves and and have an oh crap moment. Seen it every tournament where somebody came over to size up one of those teams and were taken back. Then they found out the score was 10-0 and the kids were all playing with their off hands. Not about one kid or talent it is about team game and lax iq. These teams are far ahead as they have a strong core

At ANY AGE GROUP, the idea that any tier/classification/level/whatever you want to call it would be wholly comprised of single digit teams is outright dumb. The top 3 (or top 5 -
depends on age group) may be that good and there may be separation between they and the next closest teams, but that still doesn't mean then next best teams are not on a higher level than the teams below them. The foolish take on this is that somehow the teams that are in the 4 - 20 range being labeled A somehow diminishes the top teams - in reality, it magnifies their prestige. They are such that they are that much better than the rest of A; these top teams are AA or elite or whatever name you want to come up with. But, then there are regular A teams, B teams, and C teams - all three tiers on LI will have a fair amount of teams in each tier. This isn't Georgia where there truly might only be 1 or 2 or 3 A teams - it's Long Island, a top 2 locale for the sport. There is no other organized youth sport dumb enough to approach the idea of classification the way the people associated with LI's top teams go about it, and that isn't a good thing, and speaks volumes as to why it's so f'in dumb.

Does anyone have any information on Shore 2 Shore for this age group ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on Shore 2 Shore for this age group ?

The coach was head coach of 91 Blast last year. He was a decent coach and good with the kids. He was not a dedicated coach for whatever the reason. Whether he is now at S2S time will tell. My kid likes him for what that's worth and learned from him but we didn't go running to S2S when he left. In summary, not a bad place if you've got nowhere else to go this year but not proven to be a great place either. Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on Shore 2 Shore for this age group ?

Coach goes 100% daddy ball. During the week he tells you to get there 45 minutes early for the Tournament and shows up 10 minutes before game time so the dads have to start the warm ups. Cancels practice after you are on your way. Only has them going once a week even when the boys seem to need an extra day.

Other than that, he is a knowledgeable Lax coach and a good guy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on Shore 2 Shore for this age group ?

Coach goes 100% daddy ball. During the week he tells you to get there 45 minutes early for the Tournament and shows up 10 minutes before game time so the dads have to start the warm ups. Cancels practice after you are on your way. Only has them going once a week even when the boys seem to need an extra day.

Other than that, he is a knowledgeable Lax coach and a good guy!

If you've got any significant number of boys on your teams playing fall sports, do you really think they are going to do more than 1 practice per week in the fall?? And considering the price point for S2S and other similar clubs, do you really think that is what you are paying for? I think many people have unrealistic expectations for fall lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on Shore 2 Shore for this age group ?

Coach goes 100% daddy ball. During the week he tells you to get there 45 minutes early for the Tournament and shows up 10 minutes before game time so the dads have to start the warm ups. Cancels practice after you are on your way. Only has them going once a week even when the boys seem to need an extra day.

Other than that, he is a knowledgeable Lax coach and a good guy!

If you've got any significant number of boys on your teams playing fall sports, do you really think they are going to do more than 1 practice per week in the fall?? And considering the price point for S2S and other similar clubs, do you really think that is what you are paying for? I think many people have unrealistic expectations for fall lax.

Not talking about the fall, but the best go twice a week, even with football. Unfortunately his performance last year spring/summer was on average less than 1x per week including the weeks heading into Laxfe$t. Parents had to push him to schedule the extra day. The expectations at SOS might be less now, but he stranded the 91 kids last year. Maybe his priorities are straight and I am a nut, but the kids deserved better from him. The worst of it was that he showed that he could get a lot out of his 2018 team where he coached for several years. What is the movie line from DiNiro in the Bronx Tale? "There's nothing worse than wasted talent"

Personally glad that he is gone from 9d1. Good luck s2s, you may need it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on Shore 2 Shore for this age group ?

Coach goes 100% daddy ball. During the week he tells you to get there 45 minutes early for the Tournament and shows up 10 minutes before game time so the dads have to start the warm ups. Cancels practice after you are on your way. Only has them going once a week even when the boys seem to need an extra day.

Other than that, he is a knowledgeable Lax coach and a good guy!

If you've got any significant number of boys on your teams playing fall sports, do you really think they are going to do more than 1 practice per week in the fall?? And considering the price point for S2S and other similar clubs, do you really think that is what you are paying for? I think many people have unrealistic expectations for fall lax.

Not talking about the fall, but the best go twice a week, even with football. Unfortunately his performance last year spring/summer was on average less than 1x per week including the weeks heading into Laxfe$t. Parents had to push him to schedule the extra day. The expectations at SOS might be less now, but he stranded the 91 kids last year. Maybe his priorities are straight and I am a nut, but the kids deserved better from him. The worst of it was that he showed that he could get a lot out of his 2018 team where he coached for several years. What is the movie line from DiNiro in the Bronx Tale? "There's nothing worse than wasted talent"

No no I think the quote was "the working mans a sucka"
....especially when you're working for someone else!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on Shore 2 Shore for this age group ?

Coach goes 100% daddy ball. During the week he tells you to get there 45 minutes early for the Tournament and shows up 10 minutes before game time so the dads have to start the warm ups. Cancels practice after you are on your way. Only has them going once a week even when the boys seem to need an extra day.

Other than that, he is a knowledgeable Lax coach and a good guy!

If you've got any significant number of boys on your teams playing fall sports, do you really think they are going to do more than 1 practice per week in the fall?? And considering the price point for S2S and other similar clubs, do you really think that is what you are paying for? I think many people have unrealistic expectations for fall lax.

Not talking about the fall, but the best go twice a week, even with football. Unfortunately his performance last year spring/summer was on average less than 1x per week including the weeks heading into Laxfe$t. Parents had to push him to schedule the extra day. The expectations at SOS might be less now, but he stranded the 91 kids last year. Maybe his priorities are straight and I am a nut, but the kids deserved better from him. The worst of it was that he showed that he could get a lot out of his 2018 team where he coached for several years. What is the movie line from DiNiro in the Bronx Tale? "There's nothing worse than wasted talent"

The best may go 2x per wk in the fall, but that's a sure way to bring about burnout and/or premature repetitive motion injuries with boys playing fall sports. I have no issues with kicking it up in the spring and into summer, but if they're in other sports, it's counterproductive in the off season.

It's very quiet, but at least we the mixed nuts chatter is quiet.

I think the top teams will remain. Express & Geese. They separated themselves from the pack over the summer. 9! and then Ducks & TB are the best of the rest.

How do you figure that the Geese are a better team than 9d1? Just looking for fact-based comments here.

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

It's very quiet, but at least we the mixed nuts chatter is quiet.

I think the top teams will remain. Express & Geese. They separated themselves from the pack over the summer. 9! and then Ducks & TB are the best of the rest.

I heard Team 24 made some improvements at this age.

Its a simple eye test. Last year both the Geese and Express were the better teams as the season came to a close. Obviously that can change, but that is the facts

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

All I am.saying is at the end of the season is Express and Geese were the top teams. That's not to say 91 isn't good, they are.

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

It's very quiet, but at least we the mixed nuts chatter is quiet.

I think the top teams will remain. Express & Geese. They separated themselves from the pack over the summer. 9! and then Ducks & TB are the best of the rest.

Not so fast! Mixed nuts are ahead of all the teams you mention. They must be the first AAA team!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Its a simple eye test. Last year both the Geese and Express were the better teams as the season came to a close. Obviously that can change, but that is the facts

Eye test? The facts?

You need glasses!

One goal games back and forth, Bravehearts, there were 3 top teams last season and those 3 will battle it out this year as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

All I am.saying is at the end of the season is Express and Geese were the top teams. That's not to say 91 isn't good, they are.

9d1 didn't have skill. They just play dirty. That dies down as they get older and real skill is needed. Express will win this year but I wouldn't want my son on the team. Channy will have a huge bench and only play the top players and holdbacks he had reclassify and burn them out. He will purely use them to get the rankings of his business up.
Be happy if your son isn't playing on Express for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

All I am.saying is at the end of the season is Express and Geese were the top teams. That's not to say 91 isn't good, they are.

9d1 didn't have skill. They just play dirty. That dies down as they get older and real skill is needed. Express will win this year but I wouldn't want my son on the team. Channy will have a huge bench and only play the top players and holdbacks he had reclassify and burn them out. He will purely use them to get the rankings of his business up.
Be happy if your son isn't playing on Express for him.

91 is telling us not to expect to play in tournaments this fall because they want to make sure they fix the boys’ fundamentals, which makes sense. But I’m pretty sure that my tuition includes 2 fall tournaments so I’m a little confused. Can anyone from AA clear that up for me?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

All I am.saying is at the end of the season is Express and Geese were the top teams. That's not to say 91 isn't good, they are.

9d1 didn't have skill. They just play dirty. That dies down as they get older and real skill is needed. Express will win this year but I wouldn't want my son on the team. Channy will have a huge bench and only play the top players and holdbacks he had reclassify and burn them out. He will purely use them to get the rankings of his business up.
Be happy if your son isn't playing on Express for him.

So I guess you’re saying that Geese are the only good team now? Express is the team to beat, at least as of the end of last season. I would agree that Geese were very good. They are definitely a close second. Let’s see how Igloo, Ducks and Blast have improved this fall. Hopefully we can have 5 legit teams at this age group this season and they all don’t avoid each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

All I am.saying is at the end of the season is Express and Geese were the top teams. That's not to say 91 isn't good, they are.

9d1 didn't have skill. They just play dirty. That dies down as they get older and real skill is needed. Express will win this year but I wouldn't want my son on the team. Channy will have a huge bench and only play the top players and holdbacks he had reclassify and burn them out. He will purely use them to get the rankings of his business up.
Be happy if your son isn't playing on Express for him.

So I guess you’re saying that Geese are the only good team now? Express is the team to beat, at least as of the end of last season. I would agree that Geese were very good. They are definitely a close second. Let’s see how Igloo, Ducks and Blast have improved this fall. Hopefully we can have 5 legit teams at this age group this season and they all don’t avoid each other.

Ducks and Igloo are nowhere close to competing with the top 3. You are just fooling yourself if you believe that. Ducks maybe the best B team, no where close to a real A team. And igloo is stick in the middle of A and B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

All I am.saying is at the end of the season is Express and Geese were the top teams. That's not to say 91 isn't good, they are.

9d1 didn't have skill. They just play dirty. That dies down as they get older and real skill is needed. Express will win this year but I wouldn't want my son on the team. Channy will have a huge bench and only play the top players and holdbacks he had reclassify and burn them out. He will purely use them to get the rankings of his business up.
Be happy if your son isn't playing on Express for him.

91 is telling us not to expect to play in tournaments this fall because they want to make sure they fix the boys’ fundamentals, which makes sense. But I’m pretty sure that my tuition includes 2 fall tournaments so I’m a little confused. Can anyone from AA clear that up for me?

Sounds like 9d1 knows they don't have the talent to compete in any fall tournaments, and as for your 2 included fall tournaments, you just got your first taste of 9d1s games on how they just take peoples money.. Good luck this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

All I am.saying is at the end of the season is Express and Geese were the top teams. That's not to say 91 isn't good, they are.

9d1 didn't have skill. They just play dirty. That dies down as they get older and real skill is needed. Express will win this year but I wouldn't want my son on the team. Channy will have a huge bench and only play the top players and holdbacks he had reclassify and burn them out. He will purely use them to get the rankings of his business up.
Be happy if your son isn't playing on Express for him.

91 is telling us not to expect to play in tournaments this fall because they want to make sure they fix the boys’ fundamentals, which makes sense. But I’m pretty sure that my tuition includes 2 fall tournaments so I’m a little confused. Can anyone from AA clear that up for me?

It sounds like you actually have a kid on the team. Are you seriously asking this question here instead of actually asking the coaches or another parent? If you don't like what you hear, ask a follow up question, that is how conversations work. And while you are counting the tournaments, count the practices and the number of coaches and the rest. And if you really, really still want to ask someone else, there are plenty of big mouths on the sidelines at practice to ask what they think, myself included. We're all easy to find.

You clearly do not have a kid on the 9D1 AA team. That has never been said. So stop trying to put out lies on the board.
That's why the board managers feel like they have to regulate these boards. Because of pure lies by people pretending they are something they are not.

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Your a funny guy.thanks for a good laugh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't know for sure. There are different players on and off all 3 of these teams. Anything can happen. A year ago you said 91 was on top. Now you are saying Express and Geese.
What's good is nothing is a giveaway. Which makes the season challenging for the kids.

All I am.saying is at the end of the season is Express and Geese were the top teams. That's not to say 91 isn't good, they are.

9d1 didn't have skill. They just play dirty. That dies down as they get older and real skill is needed. Express will win this year but I wouldn't want my son on the team. Channy will have a huge bench and only play the top players and holdbacks he had reclassify and burn them out. He will purely use them to get the rankings of his business up.
Be happy if your son isn't playing on Express for him.

So I guess you’re saying that Geese are the only good team now? Express is the team to beat, at least as of the end of last season. I would agree that Geese were very good. They are definitely a close second. Let’s see how Igloo, Ducks and Blast have improved this fall. Hopefully we can have 5 legit teams at this age group this season and they all don’t avoid each other.

There is only one reclassified kid on Express the other 2 boys are staying 2024.

If you are not happy at 9D1 now, you will never be happy. Please don't come on here and start s**t. If you have ever asked yourself if you're a crazy lax parent, I can confidently tell you, YES. Just go somewhere else and cast your shadow there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are not happy at 9D1 now, you will never be happy. Please don't come on here and start s**t. If you have ever asked yourself if you're a crazy lax parent, I can confidently tell you, YES. Just go somewhere else and cast your shadow there.

Anyone know how the ducks roster is. Has it changed much from last year?

Will be a contest all season who is louder the coach or the sideline dad coaching his kid

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

What about Igloo and FL$at this age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Igloo and FL$at this age?

Flgee didn't compete in the A bracket last season, but were a competitive B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

You seriously just said 9d1 had no skills and won because they played dirty?? I have sat through MANY of their games and never saw them resort to being dirty. You should be ashamed of making that kind of comment about 10 year olds....especially when it is not true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

Calling Ducks an A level team is laughable. Maybe in your mind Dad but not to the rest of the world. They have no chance against Express and Geese. Won't even be a game. Express and Geese will beat them by at least 8 goals or more.

Ducks are good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

I completely agree. These tournaments should have A and B levels. It's not fair to the B level teams to go to a tournament where they are just being beat up on and have no chance. Plus it actually hurts the kids self confidence. They should be playing teams at their level or slightly above. Not teams that will just run rings around them. I don't understand why the parents on the B level teams in these organisations don't complain about this. The B level kids would be much better off playing a different tournament.

If Legacy and Express can't get the turnout to at least have 4 teams in each A and B division, then they should not have that age group in the tourney. And instead have teams play at a different tournament that has a better turnout which has A and B levels. And I say Express as well because I expect the Octoberfest tournament is going to be the same issue based on how their Mayflower tournament turnout was last year.

You sir are correct.Basically stretching a playmate into a tourney so they can charge .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

Calling Ducks an A level team is laughable. Maybe in your mind Dad but not to the rest of the world. They have no chance against Express and Geese. Won't even be a game. Express and Geese will beat them by at least 8 goals or more.

Only 2 - 3 teams comprising "A' = dumb!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

Calling Ducks an A level team is laughable. Maybe in your mind Dad but not to the rest of the world. They have no chance against Express and Geese. Won't even be a game. Express and Geese will beat them by at least 8 goals or more.

Only 2 - 3 teams comprising "A' = dumb!

Another unnecessary comment!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

Calling Ducks an A level team is laughable. Maybe in your mind Dad but not to the rest of the world. They have no chance against Express and Geese. Won't even be a game. Express and Geese will beat them by at least 8 goals or more.

Only 2 - 3 teams comprising "A' = dumb!

Another unnecessary comment!

It's unnecessary to point out an inane concept for a youth sport 'tiering'?? You must be one of those guys that likes that the fact that we are back to 99% of the posts on BOTC besing comprised of adults 'arguing' whose 10 year old's team is better than another's!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

Calling Ducks an A level team is laughable. Maybe in your mind Dad but not to the rest of the world. They have no chance against Express and Geese. Won't even be a game. Express and Geese will beat them by at least 8 goals or more.

The only one laughable is you. Laughable and sad. Stupid comments like yours insulting other teams and their kids are not welcome anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

Calling Ducks an A level team is laughable. Maybe in your mind Dad but not to the rest of the world. They have no chance against Express and Geese. Won't even be a game. Express and Geese will beat them by at least 8 goals or more.

Only 2 - 3 teams comprising "A' = dumb!

Another unnecessary comment!

It's unnecessary to point out an inane concept for a youth sport 'tiering'?? You must be one of those guys that likes that the fact that we are back to 99% of the posts on BOTC besing comprised of adults 'arguing' whose 10 year old's team is better than another's!

Clearly if I say that calling A teams dumb is an unnecessary comment, then I don't support people making stupid insulting comments on this blog.
And I don't agree with the prior comment where the person insulted the Ducks and their kids. That's unnecessary and unwanted here.
But copying the bad behavior by responding with another insult of other teams is not okay either.
Everyone just needs to knock off the insults. It's truly infantile.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All negativity aside, it looks like Columbus Day is going to be a great start to the year. Geese, Express and Ducks all facing off right out of the gate! Great to see the top teams playing each other in an awesome local tourney! Add to that 24, O’Reilly and Blue Devils and I’m expecting some great lacrosse. Forget about all of the garbage around which team is best. I guarantee that every team will have some competitive games. Good luck to all and pray for a north wind over there!

It would have been nice to have one other A & B team. Ducks, Express and Geese is A level. Blue Devils, Express B and 24 shouldn't being playing those teams. Not fun for the kids, the coaches or the parents. Nothing positive comes from losing by 10+ goals. Competing hard and losing is a good builder. Get on the phone tourney directors and add a few teams. Otherwise, why come back next year.

Calling Ducks an A level team is laughable. Maybe in your mind Dad but not to the rest of the world. They have no chance against Express and Geese. Won't even be a game. Express and Geese will beat them by at least 8 goals or more.

Only 2 - 3 teams comprising "A' = dumb!

Another unnecessary comment!

It's unnecessary to point out an inane concept for a youth sport 'tiering'?? You must be one of those guys that likes that the fact that we are back to 99% of the posts on BOTC besing comprised of adults 'arguing' whose 10 year old's team is better than another's!

The comment made about the Ducks team is absolutely inappropriate. But the solution is not to copy the same bad behavior and insult other teams.

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Calling Ducks an A level team is laughable. Maybe in your mind Dad but not to the rest of the world. They have no chance against Express and Geese. Won't even be a game. Express and Geese will beat them by at least 8 goals or more. [/quote]

Only 2 - 3 teams comprising "A' = dumb![/quote]

Another unnecessary comment!
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It's unnecessary to point out an inane concept for a youth sport 'tiering'?? You must be one of those guys that likes that the fact that we are back to 99% of the posts on BOTC besing comprised of adults 'arguing' whose 10 year old's team is better than another's![/quote]

The comment made about the Ducks team is absolutely inappropriate. But the solution is not to copy the same bad behavior and insult other teams.
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No team was insulted by posting, "Only 2 - 3 teams comprising "A' = dumb!" It was meant to insult the person(s) who consistently push the dumb idea that on LI there is any age group where the number of "A teams" are limited to single digits, let alone a handful (!), of teams.

The Ducks team is an A team. Are they as good as the Geese or Express, probably. not. But nobody claimed that. But they will beat any B team easily. I know that because we played them. So they should be playing those A teams and enter A brackets, which they do. Please stop with the insults.

The fact remains, why can't these tourney directors match up teams accordingly? Just make a few calls and try to get a few teams in. Blatant does a great job with this and that's why I like when we enter their tourneys. Their brackets are usually balanced. For Monday, I would rather play 2 games and make the 3rd game the winners bracket game. So what that means one team only gets two games. That's better than losing 15-0.

Not a real tournament just a way for the directors to knock one off the list of what you paid for so they can get to the extras . Same next week when express holds our get together

Geese vs express should be a great game . heard both teams picked up some better players .it would have been nice to see blast make an appearance

It is a real tournament, but I agree that it's not a spring/summer feel. Kids are playing football, including my son 3,4 days a week. Kids have missed half the September practices because of football,which is the prime fall sport. That's just how it is. I'm sure every team has this as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese vs express should be a great game . heard both teams picked up some better players .it would have been nice to see blast make an appearance

And one plays the Legacy B team and the other plays the Express B team. Does anybody agree that it's completely silly.

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

This is the major problem with club lacrosse tournaments: there is no proper tiering system for teams, and thus no proper tournaments and/or divisions within to properly align teams. Almost every tourney is a [lacrosse] show to some degree, with teams getting blown out and/or blowing other teams out, sometimes both happening to a team within the same tourney. The grade-based aspect of lax, expecially outside of NY, compounds the problem. Hockey has this covered so much better, and lax should follow a lot of what they did (not all).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

This is the major problem with club lacrosse tournaments: there is no proper tiering system for teams, and thus no proper tournaments and/or divisions within to properly align teams. Almost every tourney is a [lacrosse] show to some degree, with teams getting blown out and/or blowing other teams out, sometimes both happening to a team within the same tourney. The grade-based aspect of lax, expecially outside of NY, compounds the problem. Hockey has this covered so much better, and lax should follow a lot of what they did (not all).

And tournament directors should work the phones and trade favors to make their tournaments competitive from top to bottom or just classify it as an A or B level tourney, that way you know. Do they really think putting B teams vs the top teams in the age is okay? The kids go in defeated, such poor judgement in my opinion. Good news is that there is choice, live and learn. That's why directors like the guys at Blatant who work to balance out brackets (in fall and spring) know the value of having a competitive tourney for all levels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

This is the major problem with club lacrosse tournaments: there is no proper tiering system for teams, and thus no proper tournaments and/or divisions within to properly align teams. Almost every tourney is a [lacrosse] show to some degree, with teams getting blown out and/or blowing other teams out, sometimes both happening to a team within the same tourney. The grade-based aspect of lax, expecially outside of NY, compounds the problem. Hockey has this covered so much better, and lax should follow a lot of what they did (not all).

And tournament directors should work the phones and trade favors to make their tournaments competitive from top to bottom or just classify it as an A or B level tourney, that way you know. Do they really think putting B teams vs the top teams in the age is okay? The kids go in defeated, such poor judgement in my opinion. Good news is that there is choice, live and learn. That's why directors like the guys at Blatant who work to balance out brackets (in fall and spring) know the value of having a competitive tourney for all levels.

There are too many tournaments out there to spread out teams. When this happens, you're either going to have situations with unbalanced talent brackets or combined age brackets. Both lead to lopsided scores.
And it will only continue to get worse in the Spring & Summer as Club Directors decided to create their own tournaments to keep more money in house.

Seen the flyer for the True Blue tourney already? That'll be a sh*t show!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

This is the major problem with club lacrosse tournaments: there is no proper tiering system for teams, and thus no proper tournaments and/or divisions within to properly align teams. Almost every tourney is a [lacrosse] show to some degree, with teams getting blown out and/or blowing other teams out, sometimes both happening to a team within the same tourney. The grade-based aspect of lax, expecially outside of NY, compounds the problem. Hockey has this covered so much better, and lax should follow a lot of what they did (not all).

And tournament directors should work the phones and trade favors to make their tournaments competitive from top to bottom or just classify it as an A or B level tourney, that way you know. Do they really think putting B teams vs the top teams in the age is okay? The kids go in defeated, such poor judgement in my opinion. Good news is that there is choice, live and learn. That's why directors like the guys at Blatant who work to balance out brackets (in fall and spring) know the value of having a competitive tourney for all levels.

Been to way too many tourneys w/ my sons already where in one game they win by almost double-digit goals and then lose in the next game by a similar amount!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

This is the major problem with club lacrosse tournaments: there is no proper tiering system for teams, and thus no proper tournaments and/or divisions within to properly align teams. Almost every tourney is a [lacrosse] show to some degree, with teams getting blown out and/or blowing other teams out, sometimes both happening to a team within the same tourney. The grade-based aspect of lax, expecially outside of NY, compounds the problem. Hockey has this covered so much better, and lax should follow a lot of what they did (not all).

And tournament directors should work the phones and trade favors to make their tournaments competitive from top to bottom or just classify it as an A or B level tourney, that way you know. Do they really think putting B teams vs the top teams in the age is okay? The kids go in defeated, such poor judgement in my opinion. Good news is that there is choice, live and learn. That's why directors like the guys at Blatant who work to balance out brackets (in fall and spring) know the value of having a competitive tourney for all levels.

There are too many tournaments out there to spread out teams. When this happens, you're either going to have situations with unbalanced talent brackets or combined age brackets. Both lead to lopsided scores.
And it will only continue to get worse in the Spring & Summer as Club Directors decided to create their own tournaments to keep more money in house.

Seen the flyer for the True Blue tourney already? That'll be a sh*t show!!

It's a charity tournament - are you seriously going to go there??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ducks team is an A team. Are they as good as the Geese or Express, probably. not. But nobody claimed that. But they will beat any B team easily. I know that because we played them. So they should be playing those A teams and enter A brackets, which they do. Please stop with the insults.

The fact remains, why can't these tourney directors match up teams accordingly? Just make a few calls and try to get a few teams in. Blatant does a great job with this and that's why I like when we enter their tourneys. Their brackets are usually balanced. For Monday, I would rather play 2 games and make the 3rd game the winners bracket game. So what that means one team only gets two games. That's better than losing 15-0.

You are therefore agreeing that Ducks can’t compete with Express or Geese. Express and Geese are A teams. That means Ducks are not. You’ll see Monday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ducks team is an A team. Are they as good as the Geese or Express, probably. not. But nobody claimed that. But they will beat any B team easily. I know that because we played them. So they should be playing those A teams and enter A brackets, which they do. Please stop with the insults.

The fact remains, why can't these tourney directors match up teams accordingly? Just make a few calls and try to get a few teams in. Blatant does a great job with this and that's why I like when we enter their tourneys. Their brackets are usually balanced. For Monday, I would rather play 2 games and make the 3rd game the winners bracket game. So what that means one team only gets two games. That's better than losing 15-0.

You are therefore agreeing that Ducks can’t compete with Express or Geese. Express and Geese are A teams. That means Ducks are not. You’ll see Monday.

Ducks have no defense and no attack. Middies are their whole team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ducks team is an A team. Are they as good as the Geese or Express, probably. not. But nobody claimed that. But they will beat any B team easily. I know that because we played them. So they should be playing those A teams and enter A brackets, which they do. Please stop with the insults.

The fact remains, why can't these tourney directors match up teams accordingly? Just make a few calls and try to get a few teams in. Blatant does a great job with this and that's why I like when we enter their tourneys. Their brackets are usually balanced. For Monday, I would rather play 2 games and make the 3rd game the winners bracket game. So what that means one team only gets two games. That's better than losing 15-0.

You are therefore agreeing that Ducks can’t compete with Express or Geese. Express and Geese are A teams. That means Ducks are not. You’ll see Monday.

Ducks have no defense and no attack. Middies are their whole team

Are you seriously debating about 10 year olds, playing in a fall tournament??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Ducks team is an A team. Are they as good as the Geese or Express, probably. not. But nobody claimed that. But they will beat any B team easily. I know that because we played them. So they should be playing those A teams and enter A brackets, which they do. Please stop with the insults.

The fact remains, why can't these tourney directors match up teams accordingly? Just make a few calls and try to get a few teams in. Blatant does a great job with this and that's why I like when we enter their tourneys. Their brackets are usually balanced. For Monday, I would rather play 2 games and make the 3rd game the winners bracket game. So what that means one team only gets two games. That's better than losing 15-0.

You are therefore agreeing that Ducks can’t compete with Express or Geese. Express and Geese are A teams. That means Ducks are not. You’ll see Monday.

Ducks have no defense and no attack. Middies are their whole team

Are you seriously debating about 10 year olds, playing in a fall tournament??

Uh, that is the whole point of this thread. This is the one place in the world where you can debate 10 year old lacrosse. If such is not your cup of tea, than don't read the thread. There is a really big internet out there - I am sure you can find something that interests you.

It obvious which parents are gloating here. The parents of the only team that didn't show up for the biggest LI tournament of the year, the LI Lax Fest. It's easy for them to say they are the best, they won all those B championships last year and they weren't at the LI Lax Fest to see Express, 91 and Ducks all play each other more than once with every game having lead changes and every game being decided by 2 or less goals. What a great tournament it was and they missed it. Way to teach your kids to run from competition so they can hold up a $2 t-shirt. You guys win, all your boys are getting full scholarships and the rest of the 2025 boys will be losers the rest of their lives. What a bunch of big mouth parents living vicariously through their 10 year olds and hiding behind anonymous comments. Don't think for a second everyone doesn't know exactly who you are. Losers.

News FLASH!!! All those same parents that think their kids are the man and on the best team will find out very quickly that their kid isn't the man. Enjoy it while it last. Hurray, you're the 5th grade champion!!!

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

This is the major problem with club lacrosse tournaments: there is no proper tiering system for teams, and thus no proper tournaments and/or divisions within to properly align teams. Almost every tourney is a [lacrosse] show to some degree, with teams getting blown out and/or blowing other teams out, sometimes both happening to a team within the same tourney. The grade-based aspect of lax, expecially outside of NY, compounds the problem. Hockey has this covered so much better, and lax should follow a lot of what they did (not all).

And tournament directors should work the phones and trade favors to make their tournaments competitive from top to bottom or just classify it as an A or B level tourney, that way you know. Do they really think putting B teams vs the top teams in the age is okay? The kids go in defeated, such poor judgement in my opinion. Good news is that there is choice, live and learn. That's why directors like the guys at Blatant who work to balance out brackets (in fall and spring) know the value of having a competitive tourney for all levels.

There are too many tournaments out there to spread out teams. When this happens, you're either going to have situations with unbalanced talent brackets or combined age brackets. Both lead to lopsided scores.
And it will only continue to get worse in the Spring & Summer as Club Directors decided to create their own tournaments to keep more money in house.

Seen the flyer for the True Blue tourney already? That'll be a sh*t show!!

It's a charity tournament - are you seriously going to go there??

Please tell me you don't believe that the owners of True Blue are doing this solely to raise money for a charity. It say right on the flier a " portion" of the proceeds will go to charity. They saw an opportunity when the JDRF tournament ended to run a tournament which saves their club money. The only reason they are billing it as a charity event is to get the field space for free from the town ( true story). I'm not knocking the kids or the organization but that's the truth, do the math on how much money a club team can save by enrolling their own teams in a tournament that they run and you will see why more and more organizations are following suit.

Can we please stop these childish pissing matches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

We will play when we decide

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

We will play when we decide

or when blast has an off weekend and there is no football

They put a bunch of A kids in B tournaments. Not very impressive and pretty sleezy, but not surprising considering who puts them together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

That’s how you justify it? Your son is going to grow up to be a loose loser like you. Get an life moron.

[/quote]

There are too many tournaments out there to spread out teams. When this happens, you're either going to have situations with unbalanced talent brackets or combined age brackets. Both lead to lopsided scores.
And it will only continue to get worse in the Spring & Summer as Club Directors decided to create their own tournaments to keep more money in house.

Seen the flyer for the True Blue tourney already? That'll be a sh*t show!![/quote]

It's a charity tournament - are you seriously going to go there??[/quote]

Please tell me you don't believe that the owners of True Blue are doing this solely to raise money for a charity. It say right on the flier a " portion" of the proceeds will go to charity. They saw an opportunity when the JDRF tournament ended to run a tournament which saves their club money. The only reason they are billing it as a charity event is to get the field space for free from the town ( true story). I'm not knocking the kids or the organization but that's the truth, do the math on how much money a club team can save by enrolling their own teams in a tournament that they run and you will see why more and more organizations are following suit. [/quote]

Maybe you should experience loosing a 14 year old daughter to cancer and then comment??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

This is the major problem with club lacrosse tournaments: there is no proper tiering system for teams, and thus no proper tournaments and/or divisions within to properly align teams. Almost every tourney is a [lacrosse] show to some degree, with teams getting blown out and/or blowing other teams out, sometimes both happening to a team within the same tourney. The grade-based aspect of lax, expecially outside of NY, compounds the problem. Hockey has this covered so much better, and lax should follow a lot of what they did (not all).

And tournament directors should work the phones and trade favors to make their tournaments competitive from top to bottom or just classify it as an A or B level tourney, that way you know. Do they really think putting B teams vs the top teams in the age is okay? The kids go in defeated, such poor judgement in my opinion. Good news is that there is choice, live and learn. That's why directors like the guys at Blatant who work to balance out brackets (in fall and spring) know the value of having a competitive tourney for all levels.

Organizers of the Columbus invitational should invite 2025 Igloo and 2025 True Blue. Both of those leagues have teams in most of the other age brackets at that tournament.
They are already making plenty of money off those leagues. Therefore, it's reasonable to comp them the 2025 entrance fee. Plus since they have so many of there other teams there, they would probably go.
Then the organizers can make an A division by adding Igloo and a B division by adding True Blue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

That’s how you justify it? Your son is going to grow up to be a loose loser like you. Get an life moron.

If you want a T- shirt that badly, tell me where you want it to be left and I'll drop it off. Junior has plenty of shirts that say Champs so he won't miss one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

That’s how you justify it? Your son is going to grow up to be a loose loser like you. Get an life moron.

If you want a T- shirt that badly, tell me where you want it to be left and I'll drop it off. Junior has plenty of shirts that say Champs so he won't miss one.

Look in the mirror. See that short, fat, balding, unathletic body? That’s what juniors gonna be like in high school, so you better save those T-shirt’s because it’s going to be all he has when he gets older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

That’s how you justify it? Your son is going to grow up to be a loose loser like you. Get an life moron.

If you want a T- shirt that badly, tell me where you want it to be left and I'll drop it off. Junior has plenty of shirts that say Champs so he won't miss one.

Sadly junior was reduced to nothing when we spanked you in Pal. Funny how he’s nothing when he’s not surrounded by studs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are ridiculous. This is as good a showing as you will see. Blast will never play Geese (for obvious reasons) so you’ll never get all the A teams at a tourney together. Not a Ducks parent, but pretty sure they played Blast to a goal or two whenever they met last season, so that’s essentially a wash. 24 wants to play A teams so, win or lose, they’ll be happy. Plus, the B teams are playing each other and then seeing how they stack up against A teams. A lot can be taken from a loss. All in all, I think this is the best you can expect for a fall tourney.

So I partly agree. There is a lot you can take from a loss. But nothing you can take from a loss of 12 goals. It shows there is no equal treatment for A teams vs B teams.

This is the major problem with club lacrosse tournaments: there is no proper tiering system for teams, and thus no proper tournaments and/or divisions within to properly align teams. Almost every tourney is a [lacrosse] show to some degree, with teams getting blown out and/or blowing other teams out, sometimes both happening to a team within the same tourney. The grade-based aspect of lax, expecially outside of NY, compounds the problem. Hockey has this covered so much better, and lax should follow a lot of what they did (not all).

And tournament directors should work the phones and trade favors to make their tournaments competitive from top to bottom or just classify it as an A or B level tourney, that way you know. Do they really think putting B teams vs the top teams in the age is okay? The kids go in defeated, such poor judgement in my opinion. Good news is that there is choice, live and learn. That's why directors like the guys at Blatant who work to balance out brackets (in fall and spring) know the value of having a competitive tourney for all levels.

Organizers of the Columbus invitational should invite 2025 Igloo and 2025 True Blue. Both of those leagues have teams in most of the other age brackets at that tournament.
They are already making plenty of money off those leagues. Therefore, it's reasonable to comp them the 2025 entrance fee. Plus since they have so many of there other teams there, they would probably go.
Then the organizers can make an A division by adding Igloo and a B division by adding True Blue.

Yeah, they need to balance the brackets. Ducks B and 24 B should be in as well. If they had some foresight they could make this the great kickoff event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They put a bunch of A kids in B tournaments. Not very impressive and pretty sleezy, but not surprising considering who puts them together.

Real questions here? Can someone please tell me what are the "A" tournaments and what are the "B" tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Fella, that win was two summers ago. Express wasn’t the team they are now and they were missing kids 2 summers ago, my son being one of them. You [lacrosse] clowns should be thanking the real coaches for teaching the boys how to play the game. We know you guys never played. I saw one of you trying to warm up your son before a tournament. He couldn’t even throw! Please. If you don’t see that what you’re doing is disgraceful, then Just go away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Fella, that win was two summers ago. Express wasn’t the team they are now and they were missing kids 2 summers ago, my son being one of them. You [lacrosse] clowns should be thanking the real coaches for teaching the boys how to play the game. We know you guys never played. I saw one of you trying to warm up your son before a tournament. He couldn’t even throw! Please. If you don’t see that what you’re doing is disgraceful, then Just go away.

how many kids was express missing when they got crushed by Dukes nationals 3 times this past year?

Don't expect to see the Nuts around for much longer.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Fella, that win was two summers ago. Express wasn’t the team they are now and they were missing kids 2 summers ago, my son being one of them. You [lacrosse] clowns should be thanking the real coaches for teaching the boys how to play the game. We know you guys never played. I saw one of you trying to warm up your son before a tournament. He couldn’t even throw! Please. If you don’t see that what you’re doing is disgraceful, then Just go away.

No it wasn't, it was THIS summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Fella, that win was two summers ago. Express wasn’t the team they are now and they were missing kids 2 summers ago, my son being one of them. You [lacrosse] clowns should be thanking the real coaches for teaching the boys how to play the game. We know you guys never played. I saw one of you trying to warm up your son before a tournament. He couldn’t even throw! Please. If you don’t see that what you’re doing is disgraceful, then Just go away.

how many kids was express missing when they got crushed by Dukes nationals 3 times this past year?

They are an all star team and should win. They aren't a travel club. It's like bragging about Sweetlax National and FCA National beating an Express or 91 team. It's not an apples to apples comparison. It's just really talented kids competed. I love how you take pleasure in a team losing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Fella, that win was two summers ago. Express wasn’t the team they are now and they were missing kids 2 summers ago, my son being one of them. You [lacrosse] clowns should be thanking the real coaches for teaching the boys how to play the game. We know you guys never played. I saw one of you trying to warm up your son before a tournament. He couldn’t even throw! Please. If you don’t see that what you’re doing is disgraceful, then Just go away.

No it wasn't, it was THIS summer.

First of all, summer is over, meathead. That would make it last summer, except it wasn’t. It was two summers ago in Sweaty Nuts’ first season. Go away. Such a loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that
team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Fella, that win was two summers ago. Express wasn’t the team they are now and they were missing kids 2 summers ago, my son being one of them. You [lacrosse] clowns should be thanking the real coaches for teaching the boys how to play the game. We know you guys never played. I saw one of you trying to warm up your son before a tournament. He couldn’t even throw! Please. If you don’t see that what you’re doing is disgraceful, then Just go away.

No it wasn't, it was THIS summer.

First of all, summer is over, meathead. That would make it last summer, except it wasn’t. It was two summers ago in Sweaty Nuts’ first season. Go away. Such a loser.

If your head wasn't so far up your own [lacrosse] you would know that mixed nuts played express in 2017. your son was such a great addition he did nothing to help them out.

It is going to happen again!
It's coming, we are steaing your shirts!
These boys are lax pirates!
And to show we don't need no stinking shirts, we are
going to donate them to charity!

Maybe your jealous, bitter boy can get a donation. The shirts are usually pretty big, so if you say nice things to us we can get a shirt for you too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They put a bunch of A kids in B tournaments. Not very impressive and pretty sleezy, but not surprising considering who puts them together.

Real questions here? Can someone please tell me what are the "A" tournaments and what are the "B" tournaments?

Seems like most tournaments on long Island are B .only because there are so many and the competition level seems to be getting watered down with all the different so called travel clubs

Going forward. Mixed Nuts will never beat Express. All teams say they add, that team added 3 or 4 starters and they and the Geese will separate themselves from the rest of pack. Not saying that as a brag, just a fact.

Good for you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Ya but I did see some Taz kids playing in that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

Ya but I did see some Taz kids playing in that game.

Nice try, but you are going to have to ask Channy about the requirements he has made up for only his teams to con moron parents into having their kids play down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They put a bunch of A kids in B tournaments. Not very impressive and pretty sleezy, but not surprising considering who puts them together.

Real questions here? Can someone please tell me what are the "A" tournaments and what are the "B" tournaments?

Seems like most tournaments on long Island are B .only because there are so many and the competition level seems to be getting watered down with all the different so called travel clubs

So you are basing it on the talent that enters the tournament. That only seems true for this 2025 age bracket. It seems all the "A" talent is on 3 teams, 91, express, and the geese. Mostly all other age brackets have better completion and have a lot more "A" teams. You cant call all tournaments "B" level tournaments just because one age bracket enters only weak talent. The only really "B" Level tournament are the Harding tournaments, they do call themselves the "Battle of the B's tournaments", all others are just tournaments. Since 91 is entering in Halloween Havoc on October 14th, does that mean its an "A" tournament??

91 is not in Halloween Havoc

Blatant and Octoberfest gets the best competition on the island in the fall. However, some teams are newly formed and like to use the fall to see where they measure out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant and Octoberfest gets the best competition on the island in the fall. However, some teams are newly formed and like to use the fall to see where they measure out.

Ummm ... this is the first Octoberfest tournament so that's not possible. LOL
http://tristarlacrosse.com/octoberfest/octoberfest.html

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant and Octoberfest gets the best competition on the island in the fall. However, some teams are newly formed and like to use the fall to see where they measure out.

Ummm ... this is the first Octoberfest tournament so that's not possible. LOL
http://tristarlacrosse.com/octoberfest/octoberfest.html

It used to be the Mayflower and it was rebranded and moved to more convenient date. LOL,try to keep up. Finals was the Geese and Express last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant and Octoberfest gets the best competition on the island in the fall. However, some teams are newly formed and like to use the fall to see where they measure out.

Ummm ... this is the first Octoberfest tournament so that's not possible. LOL
http://tristarlacrosse.com/octoberfest/octoberfest.html

It used to be the Mayflower and it was rebranded and moved to more convenient date. LOL,try to keep up. Finals was the Geese and Express last year.

Ummmm... I am keeping up. And using the Mayflower tournament makes your statement invalid as well. It was a disgrace with basically Express playing against Express. It was the worst run tournament ever. It was a total money grab.
Soooo ... in no way did it get the best competition. LOL

Mayflower is ran by express directors, you get what you deserve doing that one. IMHO it sucks, better options out there.

What tournaments are good in your opinion?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournaments are good in your opinion?

There are no such thing as a good fall tournament. Football season. Tournaments should be spring/summer only.

Want a play day in the fall....go ahead

I know its ran by 9d1 but the fall lacrosse one they do was good, out in sachem. If your team is willing to drive a bit the one up @ Yale is good too. I am a bit biased against express, so just one persons opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournaments are good in your opinion?

Blatant in October is a well run tournament. And the Fall Lax classic in November also is a good one. If you are just looking at Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournaments are good in your opinion?

There are no such thing as a good fall tournament. Football season. Tournaments should be spring/summer only.

Want a play day in the fall....go ahead

Meathead

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many tournaments will the nuts/laxin team play in this year?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.

Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the .....

That’s how you justify it? Your son is going to grow up to be a loose loser like you. Get an life moron.

If you want a T- shirt that badly, tell me where you want it to be left and I'll drop it off. Junior has plenty of shirts that say Champs so he won't miss one.

Sadly junior was reduced to nothing when we spanked you in Pal. Funny how he’s nothing when he’s not surrounded by studs?

Your question is irrelevant. Let me explain. The Sweaty Nuts team plays only when Blast, Geese and Ducks are off. Since Geese and Blast will never play in the same tourney, that leaves very few available weekends. So, they will play in tournaments that are less desirable to the top team. This results in them playing in smaller tourneys against weaker teams, robbing those boys of opportunities for a tourney win. It’s a shame that those coaches need to put that team in those events. If you know the coaches, you know that they have an over-inflated opinion of their own boys. They are simply average. Daddy ball at its best. Just because their kids are not good enough to get minutes on their main teams, doesn’t mean they should pull the good players from those teams.
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Hey, guess what genius, it is Daddy ball, that's exactly what it is!

You might have noticed the guys on the sideline spend 0 time coaching and just get the kids out and let them loose. So all of the teams with so called real coaches should be ashamed of themselves. But ask Express if they were in a B Tournament when the 'Nuts spanked them last year. 'Ain't that a kick in the ..... [/quote]

That’s how you justify it? Your son is going to grow up to be a loose loser like you. Get an life moron. [/quote]

If you want a T- shirt that badly, tell me where you want it to be left and I'll drop it off. Junior has plenty of shirts that say Champs so he won't miss one.
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Sadly junior was reduced to nothing when we spanked you in Pal. Funny how he’s nothing when he’s not surrounded by studs?[/quote]
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We? PAL?
Is that the best you've got?

express spanked geese in game 1

geese beat express in final
division is wide OPEN!
you gotta love it

anyone can beat anyone on any given day! they are 10yr olds

Originally Posted by Anonymous

geese beat express in final
division is wide OPEN!
you gotta love it

anyone can beat anyone on any given day! they are 10yr olds

Tourney has not been updated yet, so I assume you are at the tournament. Must have been an exciting game. Seems like this will be a fun challenging season.

There some good teams in the 10 yr bracket. All the teams played well

What was the final score for championship game today between Geese and Channy?

Saw Legacy Championship 2025 picture on Instagram. Maybe they awarded Tshirts to both team since they cancelled the remainder of the day?

Ok

8-6 Final

Poor junior wasn’t there to collect his t-shirt. They were afraid to play in an A tournament. But there are some good C tourneys in West Chester he can use to update his wardrobe with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw Legacy Championship 2025 picture on Instagram. Maybe they awarded Tshirts to both team since they cancelled the remainder of the day?

Geese beat Express in Championship game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score for championship game today between Geese and Channy?

Gotta love when Geese parents come on BOTC and play/act stupid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score for championship game today between Geese and Channy?

Gotta love when Geese parents come on BOTC and play/act stupid

A little less paranoia please!
That question was not asked by a Geese parent. Tourney has not been updated with scores on championship so was an honest question.
You need to get a grip.

8-6 two good back and forth games. These guys are going to play a lot of pre season lacrosse against each other and have many more games like these

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score for championship game today between Geese and Channy?

Gotta love when Geese parents come on BOTC and play/act stupid

A little less paranoia please!
That question was not asked by a Geese parent. Tourney has not been updated with scores on championship so was an honest question.
You need to get a grip.

At this point score doesn't make a difference. These two teams are head and shoulders above the rest. The top 12-13 on each side is evenly matched. They play at such a high level it is amazing. They will trade wins and losses for many years to come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poor junior wasn’t there to collect his t-shirt. They were afraid to play in an A tournament. But there are some good C tourneys in West Chester he can use to update his wardrobe with.

Still time to sign up if your sons team wants to make a point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score for championship game today between Geese and Channy?

Gotta love when Geese parents come on BOTC and play/act stupid

A little less paranoia please!
That question was not asked by a Geese parent. Tourney has not been updated with scores on championship so was an honest question.
You need to get a grip.

8-6 Geese

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw Legacy Championship 2025 picture on Instagram. Maybe they awarded Tshirts to both team since they cancelled the remainder of the day?

Geese beat Express in Championship game

Those two teams were outstanding. The both moved the ball really well. Sometimes you forget that you are watching 10 year old's play with how talented they are. Those two teams will battle all year. It would be nice to get Blast in the mix with them.

I'm sure TAZ parents were saying same thing. Head and shoulders above the rest. A tournament, B tournament, C tournament. This team is afraid, that team is afraid. Blah, blah,blah. Point is teams catch up and nobody is afraid to play anybody in 10 year old lacrosse. You got to be out of your mind to think that. Teams are entered in tournaments based on what's convenient for the organization, it might be money, coaches schedules, some coaches have a few teams and can't be at 2 or 3 places at once, so multiple teams get entered in same tournament. There is not one player, parent or coach that I have ever seen, that said I'm afraid to play that team. It's not the UFC, its 10 year old kids playing lacrosse. That's all it is.

It is a bigger business than you think. These young teams are extremely crucial in the success of the organizations. Certain group at this age have done a good job to try to avoid the fray and keep the main competitor away while making their parents think they are ducking them. Easy to get away with when you play in your own events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is a bigger business than you think. These young teams are extremely crucial in the success of the organizations. Certain group at this age have done a good job to try to avoid the fray and keep the main competitor away while making their parents think they are ducking them. Easy to get away with when you play in your own events.

Winning is an important element of this business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score for championship game today between Geese and Channy?

Gotta love when Geese parents come on BOTC and play/act stupid

A little less paranoia please!
That question was not asked by a Geese parent. Tourney has not been updated with scores on championship so was an honest question.
You need to get a grip.

At this point score doesn't make a difference. These two teams are head and shoulders above the rest. The top 12-13 on each side is evenly matched. They play at such a high level it is amazing. They will trade wins and losses for many years to come.

Both Express and Geese are great teams. But that doesn’t mean there are not others out there. Teams change from year to year especially at this level as kids mature and develop as players, plus as new kids come on the team, and as coaching staff changes are made.

If you look at 2024 games at the tournament this weekend, you realize anything is possible. In those games Taz lost a game to TrueBlue. No one would have thought that would have happened, but it did. And that’s what makes it exciting to watch.

Either way sounds like will be an interesting season.

Tournament schedules come out soon if not already. If a team has a scheduled tournament and then they cancel it, I guess that can be avoiding the fray as you say. I've never seen that and I have 3 kids, 2 in high school. Besides I don't classify a kids team losing a game as fray. Maybe because I have 2 older kids and been through this already. Losing is part of sports, it happens teams win and teams lose. If teams are getting crushed or doing the crushing they need to maybe move up or down a bracket. I understand that. In my opinion competitive games are what's good for business.

How about a little love for the Ducks after the disrespect on the board. They ended up pretty much even with the geese in respect to everything including their result against Express. If the geese didn’t play the team that only scored 3 goals in the entire tournament it might have been the Ducks in the championship, not the geese. Not to take anything away from the geese and their championship, they are a solid team, and not claiming the Ducks are the best team in 2025, but I think they proved they earn enough respect to be called an A team and will be very competitive against the other 3 everyone is claiming to be the best. Don’t be surprised if they take you down every now and again. There is no more dominance as the boys get older and those that matured early and were animals in grades k-3, may not cut it anymore. Going to be a fun year in 2025! How about we all enjoy it respectfully and let the boys have fun and not be insulted by immature adults on this board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a little love for the Ducks after the disrespect on the board. They ended up pretty much even with the geese in respect to everything including their result against Express. If the geese didn’t play the team that only scored 3 goals in the entire tournament it might have been the Ducks in the championship, not the geese. Not to take anything away from the geese and their championship, they are a solid team, and not claiming the Ducks are the best team in 2025, but I think they proved they earn enough respect to be called an A team and will be very competitive against the other 3 everyone is claiming to be the best. Don’t be surprised if they take you down every now and again. There is no more dominance as the boys get older and those that matured early and were animals in grades k-3, may not cut it anymore. Going to be a fun year in 2025! How about we all enjoy it respectfully and let the boys have fun and not be insulted by immature adults on this board.

Really, you don't want to be immature? If that's the case you shouldn't have said anything at all. If you would have played both the Geese and Channey I don't think you would be on the board asking for respect for the Ducks. You probably would have taken a similar beating from the Geese and would have complained that they put you against both of those teams. Have your coach call the Geese coach and ask for a scrimmage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a little love for the Ducks after the disrespect on the board. They ended up pretty much even with the geese in respect to everything including their result against Express. If the geese didn’t play the team that only scored 3 goals in the entire tournament it might have been the Ducks in the championship, not the geese. Not to take anything away from the geese and their championship, they are a solid team, and not claiming the Ducks are the best team in 2025, but I think they proved they earn enough respect to be called an A team and will be very competitive against the other 3 everyone is claiming to be the best. Don’t be surprised if they take you down every now and again. There is no more dominance as the boys get older and those that matured early and were animals in grades k-3, may not cut it anymore. Going to be a fun year in 2025! How about we all enjoy it respectfully and let the boys have fun and not be insulted by immature adults on this board.

Really, you don't want to be immature? If that's the case you shouldn't have said anything at all. If you would have played both the Geese and Channey I don't think you would be on the board asking for respect for the Ducks. You probably would have taken a similar beating from the Geese and would have complained that they put you against both of those teams. Have your coach call the Geese coach and ask for a scrimmage.

How is that post in any way immature. You need some psyological help fella. You are the only immature moron on this board. True to geese form. How does anyone on this board have control of who scrimmages who? The only team that took a beating was the geese in the first Express game. Express lost the championship because they had the wind and rain in their face the entire game. The refs wouldn’t switch sides because it was legacy’s tournament and the geese coaches said no. Besides, no one wants to scrimmage the geese, they want to scrimmage teams that play real lacrosse. Not one on one ball and hope their wild shot goes in like the geese play. Their coaching is well below average. Express has the best ball movement in the 5th grade which you obviously know by the jealous comments. Teams want to scrimmage a real team like express, that’s why they get asked. Geese may have won that second game but Express is the better coached team by far. They play team ball. Geese have a bunch of athletes on the field with no purpose. Geese aren’t all that, but you know it or you wouldn’t be lobbying for respect. You can scream as loud as you like but they are just like everyone else. Huge holes and can beaten just like everyone else. That’s why they played in all those B tournaments last year and ran away from lax fest. Express is by far the leader this year again. There is one thing geese have that Express doesn’t. A bunch of loud mouth, loser parents that get in fist fights with each other and curse on the sidelines for 10 year old boys to watch and hear. Low class morons. You have to have your head examined to let your 10 year old son play on that team. But I get it, you want him on the team for the scholarship. Hate to tell you, he’s not getting it, he’s not that good. Keep dreaming. But don’t worry. You’ll have a tournament soon enough to yell and scream at the other parents and your coach while the rest of the lacrosse community laughs at you. Go geese! Poor kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a little love for the Ducks after the disrespect on the board. They ended up pretty much even with the geese in respect to everything including their result against Express. If the geese didn’t play the team that only scored 3 goals in the entire tournament it might have been the Ducks in the championship, not the geese. Not to take anything away from the geese and their championship, they are a solid team, and not claiming the Ducks are the best team in 2025, but I think they proved they earn enough respect to be called an A team and will be very competitive against the other 3 everyone is claiming to be the best. Don’t be surprised if they take you down every now and again. There is no more dominance as the boys get older and those that matured early and were animals in grades k-3, may not cut it anymore. Going to be a fun year in 2025! How about we all enjoy it respectfully and let the boys have fun and not be insulted by immature adults on this board.

Really, you don't want to be immature? If that's the case you shouldn't have said anything at all. If you would have played both the Geese and Channey I don't think you would be on the board asking for respect for the Ducks. You probably would have taken a similar beating from the Geese and would have complained that they put you against both of those teams. Have your coach call the Geese coach and ask for a scrimmage.

Ducks wouldn't have a chance. Not even the slightest chance. Silly to post that.

Saying that the team lost because wind and rain was in their face makes you lose credibility. You win some and you lose some. I certainly don't want my son growing up making tacky excuses like that.

Boo hoo, the Geese found out yesterday they aren't as dominant as they expected themselves to be. Time to insult everyone else and enter all the B tournaments in the Spring again so they can proclaim their dominance and greatness!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a little love for the Ducks after the disrespect on the board. They ended up pretty much even with the geese in respect to everything including their result against Express. If the geese didn’t play the team that only scored 3 goals in the entire tournament it might have been the Ducks in the championship, not the geese. Not to take anything away from the geese and their championship, they are a solid team, and not claiming the Ducks are the best team in 2025, but I think they proved they earn enough respect to be called an A team and will be very competitive against the other 3 everyone is claiming to be the best. Don’t be surprised if they take you down every now and again. There is no more dominance as the boys get older and those that matured early and were animals in grades k-3, may not cut it anymore. Going to be a fun year in 2025! How about we all enjoy it respectfully and let the boys have fun and not be insulted by immature adults on this board.

Really, you don't want to be immature? If that's the case you shouldn't have said anything at all. If you would have played both the Geese and Channey I don't think you would be on the board asking for respect for the Ducks. You probably would have taken a similar beating from the Geese and would have complained that they put you against both of those teams. Have your coach call the Geese coach and ask for a scrimmage.

Ducks wouldn't have a chance. Not even the slightest chance. Silly to post that.

Give them credit. They say they are A and that's where they enter. They get Express first game this weekend

You people are nuts haven't the Geese beaten express way more then express beat them? Channy played 14 kids in both games. Geese played everyone in first game and shortened the bench in championship. That was the difference. As far as. Enter ball
Movement goes express has 2 middys that dodge right every time that's there entire team. Geese won the championship against express again that makes them better until the next matchup.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a little love for the Ducks after the disrespect on the board. They ended up pretty much even with the geese in respect to everything including their result against Express. If the geese didn’t play the team that only scored 3 goals in the entire tournament it might have been the Ducks in the championship, not the geese. Not to take anything away from the geese and their championship, they are a solid team, and not claiming the Ducks are the best team in 2025, but I think they proved they earn enough respect to be called an A team and will be very competitive against the other 3 everyone is claiming to be the best. Don’t be surprised if they take you down every now and again. There is no more dominance as the boys get older and those that matured early and were animals in grades k-3, may not cut it anymore. Going to be a fun year in 2025! How about we all enjoy it respectfully and let the boys have fun and not be insulted by immature adults on this board.

Really, you don't want to be immature? If that's the case you shouldn't have said anything at all. If you would have played both the Geese and Channey I don't think you would be on the board asking for respect for the Ducks. You probably would have taken a similar beating from the Geese and would have complained that they put you against both of those teams. Have your coach call the Geese coach and ask for a scrimmage.

How is that post in any way immature. You need some psyological help fella. You are the only immature moron on this board. True to geese form. How does anyone on this board have control of who scrimmages who? The only team that took a beating was the geese in the first Express game. Express lost the championship because they had the wind and rain in their face the entire game. The refs wouldn’t switch sides because it was legacy’s tournament and the geese coaches said no. Besides, no one wants to scrimmage the geese, they want to scrimmage teams that play real lacrosse. Not one on one ball and hope their wild shot goes in like the geese play. Their coaching is well below average. Express has the best ball movement in the 5th grade which you obviously know by the jealous comments. Teams want to scrimmage a real team like express, that’s why they get asked. Geese may have won that second game but Express is the better coached team by far. They play team ball. Geese have a bunch of athletes on the field with no purpose. Geese aren’t all that, but you know it or you wouldn’t be lobbying for respect. You can scream as loud as you like but they are just like everyone else. Huge holes and can beaten just like everyone else. That’s why they played in all those B tournaments last year and ran away from lax fest. Express is by far the leader this year again. There is one thing geese have that Express doesn’t. A bunch of loud mouth, loser parents that get in fist fights with each other and curse on the sidelines for 10 year old boys to watch and hear. Low class morons. You have to have your head examined to let your 10 year old son play on that team. But I get it, you want him on the team for the scholarship. Hate to tell you, he’s not getting it, he’s not that good. Keep dreaming. But don’t worry. You’ll have a tournament soon enough to yell and scream at the other parents and your coach while the rest of the lacrosse community laughs at you. Go geese! Poor kids.

It’s funny how you say only the geese enter B tournaments, look at Express, they are entered in a B Tournament this weekend. Playing all B Teams. At least Express will win one this weekend and make up for the one they lost yesterday. I guess Express is no better then the geese. Hope you guys enjoy the T-shirt’s.

Fiore has outcoached Channy at least 7 times in last year. Amazing what you can get kids to do when they love and respect the coaching instead of fearing the results of not playing well. Tough to get that when you have to call kids by their jersey number because he is not around long enough to know the names. And while you were enjoying a crappy day in farmingdale last year playing the same teams we were in the mountains of Lehigh Pa playing and beating teams one to two years older. When your coaches get to know your kids he knows what they need instead of listening to the handful of crazy parents who are worried about the other crazies talking about them. Enjoy your nice weekend in Holtsville we will wave in our way back from back from pumpkin picking

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fiore has outcoached Channy at least 7 times in last year. Amazing what you can get kids to do when they love and respect the coaching instead of fearing the results of not playing well. Tough to get that when you have to call kids by their jersey number because he is not around long enough to know the names. And while you were enjoying a crappy day in farmingdale last year playing the same teams we were in the mountains of Lehigh Pa playing and beating teams one to two years older. When your coaches get to know your kids he knows what they need instead of listening to the handful of crazy parents who are worried about the other crazies talking about them. Enjoy your nice weekend in Holtsville we will wave in our way back from back from pumpkin picking

That really makes zero sense and simply inaccurate. And I believe the Geese played in this tourney last year. And now that you're taking the weekend off (which is cool) it's not a good tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fiore has outcoached Channy at least 7 times in last year. Amazing what you can get kids to do when they love and respect the coaching instead of fearing the results of not playing well. Tough to get that when you have to call kids by their jersey number because he is not around long enough to know the names. And while you were enjoying a crappy day in farmingdale last year playing the same teams we were in the mountains of Lehigh Pa playing and beating teams one to two years older. When your coaches get to know your kids he knows what they need instead of listening to the handful of crazy parents who are worried about the other crazies talking about them. Enjoy your nice weekend in Holtsville we will wave in our way back from back from pumpkin picking

Fiore wins when the little Taz attacker moves down to Geese.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fiore has outcoached Channy at least 7 times in last year. Amazing what you can get kids to do when they love and respect the coaching instead of fearing the results of not playing well. Tough to get that when you have to call kids by their jersey number because he is not around long enough to know the names. And while you were enjoying a crappy day in farmingdale last year playing the same teams we were in the mountains of Lehigh Pa playing and beating teams one to two years older. When your coaches get to know your kids he knows what they need instead of listening to the handful of crazy parents who are worried about the other crazies talking about them. Enjoy your nice weekend in Holtsville we will wave in our way back from back from pumpkin picking

Fiore wins when the little Taz attacker moves down to Geese.

Really ?? Is that the secret to the geese's success. Thank you for keeping us informed.. You seem to have a great interest in a 10yr old legacy team. I am guessing your little all-star must have been burnt by the geese in the past. What a shame, hopefully you will be able to move on with your life soon, I am sure junior already has. You sound like you have a lot of hate built up over 10yrs olds playing a game. I think you maybe in this for the wrong reason. I am sure everyone reading this feels for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fiore has outcoached Channy at least 7 times in last year. Amazing what you can get kids to do when they love and respect the coaching instead of fearing the results of not playing well. Tough to get that when you have to call kids by their jersey number because he is not around long enough to know the names. And while you were enjoying a crappy day in farmingdale last year playing the same teams we were in the mountains of Lehigh Pa playing and beating teams one to two years older. When your coaches get to know your kids he knows what they need instead of listening to the handful of crazy parents who are worried about the other crazies talking about them. Enjoy your nice weekend in Holtsville we will wave in our way back from back from pumpkin picking

Fiore wins when the little Taz attacker moves down to Geese.

True he decided to re-class before the game

Not anymore it appears the schedule has changed. Ducks are not playing Express as one of the 3 games..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fiore has outcoached Channy at least 7 times in last year. Amazing what you can get kids to do when they love and respect the coaching instead of fearing the results of not playing well. Tough to get that when you have to call kids by their jersey number because he is not around long enough to know the names. And while you were enjoying a crappy day in farmingdale last year playing the same teams we were in the mountains of Lehigh Pa playing and beating teams one to two years older. When your coaches get to know your kids he knows what they need instead of listening to the handful of crazy parents who are worried about the other crazies talking about them. Enjoy your nice weekend in Holtsville we will wave in our way back from back from pumpkin picking

Fiore wins when the little Taz attacker moves down to Geese.

Really ?? Is that the secret to the geese's success. Thank you for keeping us informed.. You seem to have a great interest in a 10yr old legacy team. I am guessing your little all-star must have been burnt by the geese in the past. What a shame, hopefully you will be able to move on with your life soon, I am sure junior already has. You sound like you have a lot of hate built up over 10yrs olds playing a game. I think you maybe in this for the wrong reason. I am sure everyone reading this feels for you.

He's not 10 d-bag. He's 11 and a holdback.

2025 Rankings:

1.) Legacy
2.) 91
3.) Igloo

...order of most classless parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fiore has outcoached Channy at least 7 times in last year. Amazing what you can get kids to do when they love and respect the coaching instead of fearing the results of not playing well. Tough to get that when you have to call kids by their jersey number because he is not around long enough to know the names. And while you were enjoying a crappy day in farmingdale last year playing the same teams we were in the mountains of Lehigh Pa playing and beating teams one to two years older. When your coaches get to know your kids he knows what they need instead of listening to the handful of crazy parents who are worried about the other crazies talking about them. Enjoy your nice weekend in Holtsville we will wave in our way back from back from pumpkin picking

Fiore wins when the little Taz attacker moves down to Geese.

Really ?? Is that the secret to the geese's success. Thank you for keeping us informed.. You seem to have a great interest in a 10yr old legacy team. I am guessing your little all-star must have been burnt by the geese in the past. What a shame, hopefully you will be able to move on with your life soon, I am sure junior already has. You sound like you have a lot of hate built up over 10yrs olds playing a game. I think you maybe in this for the wrong reason. I am sure everyone reading this feels for you.

He's not 10 d-bag. He's 11 and a holdback.

I dont have a kid on Geese or Express. And I don’t believe in holdbacks.
But how can Express parent’s legitimately complain about a holdback on Geese, when Express also has holdbacks.
In that case it’s really only evening the playing field.
Don’t play a card and then complain when the other side plays the same card back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fiore has outcoached Channy at least 7 times in last year. Amazing what you can get kids to do when they love and respect the coaching instead of fearing the results of not playing well. Tough to get that when you have to call kids by their jersey number because he is not around long enough to know the names. And while you were enjoying a crappy day in farmingdale last year playing the same teams we were in the mountains of Lehigh Pa playing and beating teams one to two years older. When your coaches get to know your kids he knows what they need instead of listening to the handful of crazy parents who are worried about the other crazies talking about them. Enjoy your nice weekend in Holtsville we will wave in our way back from back from pumpkin picking

Fiore wins when the little Taz attacker moves down to Geese.

Really ?? Is that the secret to the geese's success. Thank you for keeping us informed.. You seem to have a great interest in a 10yr old legacy team. I am guessing your little all-star must have been burnt by the geese in the past. What a shame, hopefully you will be able to move on with your life soon, I am sure junior already has. You sound like you have a lot of hate built up over 10yrs olds playing a game. I think you maybe in this for the wrong reason. I am sure everyone reading this feels for you.

He's not 10 d-bag. He's 11 and a holdback.

Like it was stated before move on, get over it. Feel really bad for you dude stop obsessing over little kids. There is help for this kind of thing. Dam your burn goes deep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not anymore it appears the schedule has changed. Ducks are not playing Express as one of the 3 games..

Looks like the ducks HC crying routine worked. Doesn’t have to face us till a championship game if they make it that far. What baby’s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2025 Rankings:

1.) Legacy
2.) 91
3.) Igloo

...order of most classless parents

And that comes from an Express parent! One of those on the the Express team who are making all the classless insults on the BOTC blog. Speaks for itself. You are the classless ones.
And I won’t insult all the Express parents by attaching that label to Express as a whole. The majority of parents just like any of the teams are good people. The classless parents are the ones who get on the blogs insulting other teams and kids. Or should I say cowardly bullies who truly are insecure.

Corrected 2025 ranking of classless parents:

1. Any parent from any team who degrades and insults other teams and any child. Basically anyone who acts like an ignorant cowardly bully.
Enough said!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2025 Rankings:

1.) Legacy
2.) 91
3.) Igloo

...order of most classless parents

Wow it really burns you don't it. move on buddy the sun will shine again. Its little kids playing a game, its not the end of the world!!

I have to say those schedule changes are curious. I would think Express, Igloo and the Ducks are the top 3. That Igloo team might surprise.

What's was changed

Ducks first game on Saturday was originally scheduled to be against express. The schedule was changed and Now they aren't playing express unless they meet in the championship.

the tournament is just a warm up for the upcoming season who really cares , you all need to get a life this is 10 year old lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the tournament is just a warm up for the upcoming season who really cares , you all need to get a life this is 10 year old lacrosse

Point taken. However, somebody cares enough to change the schedule.

Hitmen will rise to the challenge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the tournament is just a warm up for the upcoming season who really cares , you all need to get a life this is 10 year old lacrosse

Point taken. However, somebody cares enough to change the schedule.

Or maybe the tournament directors made the changes because they felt it was needed to help the tournament run smoothly. Maybe based on timing of games or field placement of certain games. You have no idea who or why the decision was made to make the change. So no one had a right to disparage another team and assume they req the change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the tournament is just a warm up for the upcoming season who really cares , you all need to get a life this is 10 year old lacrosse

Point taken. However, somebody cares enough to change the schedule.

Or maybe the tournament directors made the changes because they felt it was needed to help the tournament run smoothly. Maybe based on timing of games or field placement of certain games. You have no idea who or why the decision was made to make the change. So no one had a right to disparage another team and assume they req the change.

Yeah, thats the reason, for sure

The Train rolls on, beating up B teams in a B tournament. [lacrosse] yeah Brother!!

So how did the Ducks do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how did the Ducks do?

Won three games, but lost to Express Channy in championship

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

Thanks 91 Mom. Just when we thought that we missed Blast, you go and remind us how painful it is to live on the same island.

I love when people identify what team parent they are, or when someone else tries to identify what team parent is posting. Almost every single time it's not true. Today is no exception.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

A team or B team, there are a couple of studs on that team the top teams are going to want to poach for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

A team or B team, there are a couple of studs on that team the top teams are going to want to poach for sure.

100% 2024 Kids on Express. I saw 2 with my own eyes who play Express A 2024. All truth no BS... Now believe what you want but that is fact..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

A team or B team, there are a couple of studs on that team the top teams are going to want to poach for sure.

100% 2024 Kids on Express. I saw 2 with my own eyes who play Express A 2024. All truth no BS... Now believe what you want but that is fact..

1 2024 A attacker reclassed this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

A team or B team, there are a couple of studs on that team the top teams are going to want to poach for sure.

100% 2024 Kids on Express. I saw 2 with my own eyes who play Express A 2024. All truth no BS... Now believe what you want but that is fact..

1 2024 A attacker reclassed this year

Phony reclass Channey style! They have a kid who is in 6th grade! Is nothing sacred?

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

Why is anyone surprised at Channy for doing this. He does this with every team he coaches. He brings down older kids and makes the kids which are the right age watch from the bench. In fact he does the same thing on 2023 with a kid on the 2022 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

Well it's not as easy as you say because of privacy issues. So obtaining that information illegally could be a problem for whoever is in possession of that information. Secondly he is part of the lax mafia, aka (The NLF) if you are not one of the members you need to pay favors to the boss in order to even be considered for a invite so smaller teams who could make that case are screwed. Look at Igloo they are on the outside looking in not because they don't have good teams but because the owner is not friends with one of the heads of the lax mafia.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

Well it's not as easy as you say because of privacy issues. So obtaining that information illegally could be a problem for whoever is in possession of that information. Secondly he is part of the lax mafia, aka (The NLF) if you are not one of the members you need to pay favors to the boss in order to even be considered for a invite so smaller teams who could make that case are screwed. Look at Igloo they are on the outside looking in not because they don't have good teams but because the owner is not friends with one of the heads of the lax mafia.

He must be holding most of his team hostage then. As a parent, why in the world would you want your kid to sit on the bench? You are teaching kids they can win without contributing to the team. Is it really worth a t-shirt? Why not change clubs or even play for Oreilly?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

Well it's not as easy as you say because of privacy issues. So obtaining that information illegally could be a problem for whoever is in possession of that information. Secondly he is part of the lax mafia, aka (The NLF) if you are not one of the members you need to pay favors to the boss in order to even be considered for a invite so smaller teams who could make that case are screwed. Look at Igloo they are on the outside looking in not because they don't have good teams but because the owner is not friends with one of the heads of the lax mafia.

He must be holding most of his team hostage then. As a parent, why in the world would you want your kid to sit on the bench? You are teaching kids they can win without contributing to the team. Is it really worth a t-shirt? Why not change clubs or even play for Oreilly?

I don't think he's holding the kids hostage, I believe it's more the parents. They are living through their kids and feel proud talking to friends about the teams their son is playing on with no mention what he actually does. I see no reason to have almost 30 kids on the roster like some of the older express teams when they only play the top 15 but the parents are happy to attend tryouts, sign up and travel up and down the east coast to be part of it. I guess they justify it all by saying Johnny get's better by practicing against the best kids in his age group. I don't buy it for one second but it's not just him. All the top programs have kids that do not play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

HAHAHA!!! What planet are you from? what proof? This is going on with every grade group with ALL the clubs. It is so ridiculous. And if you think little Johnny is playing with all 10yr olds your crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy! all the best players on his team are 11 already.or going to be 11 within the next two months.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

HAHAHA!!! What planet are you from? what proof? This is going on with every grade group with ALL the clubs. It is so ridiculous. And if you think little Johnny is playing with all 10yr olds your crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy! all the best players on his team are 11 already.or going to be 11 within the next two months.

Not a single kid is in 6th grade. Not one. There may be kids that have been heldback for various reasons (or started kindergarten later), but that's how it works. LI teams are grade based. The tournaments they enter are grade based. The middle school, JV and Varsty teams they will play on will be grade based. If they play in college, they will be playing against kids that they graduated with or older. Long Island lacrosse is grade based, not age. Maryland is grade based (and they are much worse because they have kids go to pre-first, a grade between k and 1), Massachusettes, Pennsylvania, Jersey, Florida are grade based. Are you beginning to understand this now? You say that their may be kids turning 11 in a few months. And??? The cutoff for NY schools is December 1st. A kid born on that day is a true 5th grader. Many of these "holdbacks" were born September, October and November and the parents felt that they were not developmentally ready to begin school. Get over it. It will never change. And if you son is a decent athlete, the few months difference should not really matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

A team or B team, there are a couple of studs on that team the top teams are going to want to poach for sure.

100% 2024 Kids on Express. I saw 2 with my own eyes who play Express A 2024. All truth no BS... Now believe what you want but that is fact..

They were playing up for the last two years. They are actually just now playing on age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

HAHAHA!!! What planet are you from? what proof? This is going on with every grade group with ALL the clubs. It is so ridiculous. And if you think little Johnny is playing with all 10yr olds your crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy! all the best players on his team are 11 already.or going to be 11 within the next two months.

Not a single kid is in 6th grade. Not one. There may be kids that have been heldback for various reasons (or started kindergarten later), but that's how it works. LI teams are grade based. The tournaments they enter are grade based. The middle school, JV and Varsty teams they will play on will be grade based. If they play in college, they will be playing against kids that they graduated with or older. Long Island lacrosse is grade based, not age. Maryland is grade based (and they are much worse because they have kids go to pre-first, a grade between k and 1), Massachusettes, Pennsylvania, Jersey, Florida are grade based. Are you beginning to understand this now? You say that their may be kids turning 11 in a few months. And??? The cutoff for NY schools is December 1st. A kid born on that day is a true 5th grader. Many of these "holdbacks" were born September, October and November and the parents felt that they were not developmentally ready to begin school. Get over it. It will never change. And if you son is a decent athlete, the few months difference should not really matter.

Flat out lie. There are definitely 6th graders on the team. These people are friends with parents on other team and know what grade they are in. Don’t be a liar. And it will change because the lacrosse World Series changed over to age not graduation year two years ago so everyone will be forced to follow. And when lacrosse changes to age like every other sport has, all you cheating parents will be out of luck and your kids will be below average players on their grade level. What a loser you are to lie and defend the practice. That’s why your kid will always be a loser like you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

A team or B team, there are a couple of studs on that team the top teams are going to want to poach for sure.

100% 2024 Kids on Express. I saw 2 with my own eyes who play Express A 2024. All truth no BS... Now believe what you want but that is fact..

They were playing up for the last two years. They are actually just now playing on age.

Like I said, believe what you want. I know these 2 boys and they are 2024 age group and in 6th grade, playing in 5th. Debate what you will, those are the straight facts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duck parent here, I was very impressed with the express team. They win face offs, they win ground balls, and they're very unselfish. Geese are right there too, I think the ducks jump to 3 and pull ahead of the blast

Sounds more like an Express parent trying to pat themselves on the back. Way to crush that B team. Good job.

A team or B team, there are a couple of studs on that team the top teams are going to want to poach for sure.

100% 2024 Kids on Express. I saw 2 with my own eyes who play Express A 2024. All truth no BS... Now believe what you want but that is fact..

They were playing up for the last two years. They are actually just now playing on age.

Total non fact. 6th graders Syosett

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

HAHAHA!!! What planet are you from? what proof? This is going on with every grade group with ALL the clubs. It is so ridiculous. And if you think little Johnny is playing with all 10yr olds your crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy! all the best players on his team are 11 already.or going to be 11 within the next two months.

Not a single kid is in 6th grade. Not one. There may be kids that have been heldback for various reasons (or started kindergarten later), but that's how it works. LI teams are grade based. The tournaments they enter are grade based. The middle school, JV and Varsty teams they will play on will be grade based. If they play in college, they will be playing against kids that they graduated with or older. Long Island lacrosse is grade based, not age. Maryland is grade based (and they are much worse because they have kids go to pre-first, a grade between k and 1), Massachusettes, Pennsylvania, Jersey, Florida are grade based. Are you beginning to understand this now? You say that their may be kids turning 11 in a few months. And??? The cutoff for NY schools is December 1st. A kid born on that day is a true 5th grader. Many of these "holdbacks" were born September, October and November and the parents felt that they were not developmentally ready to begin school. Get over it. It will never change. And if you son is a decent athlete, the few months difference should not really matter.

Flat out lie. There are definitely 6th graders on the team. These people are friends with parents on other team and know what grade they are in. Don’t be a liar. And it will change because the lacrosse World Series changed over to age not graduation year two years ago so everyone will be forced to follow. And when lacrosse changes to age like every other sport has, all you cheating parents will be out of luck and your kids will be below average players on their grade level. What a loser you are to lie and defend the practice. That’s why your kid will always be a loser like you.

'Defending' something purely using the argument that "it's the status quo" isn't even defending it - there is NO argument to support grade-based play, and it the reason why EVERY OTHER YOUTH SPORT has gone away from it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

HAHAHA!!! What planet are you from? what proof? This is going on with every grade group with ALL the clubs. It is so ridiculous. And if you think little Johnny is playing with all 10yr olds your crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy! all the best players on his team are 11 already.or going to be 11 within the next two months.

Not a single kid is in 6th grade. Not one. There may be kids that have been heldback for various reasons (or started kindergarten later), but that's how it works. LI teams are grade based. The tournaments they enter are grade based. The middle school, JV and Varsty teams they will play on will be grade based. If they play in college, they will be playing against kids that they graduated with or older. Long Island lacrosse is grade based, not age. Maryland is grade based (and they are much worse because they have kids go to pre-first, a grade between k and 1), Massachusettes, Pennsylvania, Jersey, Florida are grade based. Are you beginning to understand this now? You say that their may be kids turning 11 in a few months. And??? The cutoff for NY schools is December 1st. A kid born on that day is a true 5th grader. Many of these "holdbacks" were born September, October and November and the parents felt that they were not developmentally ready to begin school. Get over it. It will never change. And if you son is a decent athlete, the few months difference should not really matter.

Flat out lie. There are definitely 6th graders on the team. These people are friends with parents on other team and know what grade they are in. Don’t be a liar. And it will change because the lacrosse World Series changed over to age not graduation year two years ago so everyone will be forced to follow. And when lacrosse changes to age like every other sport has, all you cheating parents will be out of luck and your kids will be below average players on their grade level. What a loser you are to lie and defend the practice. That’s why your kid will always be a loser like you.

There is only one boy. Now based off the last post if WSL is age based and the boy in 6th grade was born after the Sept 1st cutoff. making him 11 the correct age for World Series.Then why can he then not play in the 2025 division? I personally have no problem with that.He is playing vs kids that are his age.With all the holdbacks for whatever reason they were held back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

HAHAHA!!! What planet are you from? what proof? This is going on with every grade group with ALL the clubs. It is so ridiculous. And if you think little Johnny is playing with all 10yr olds your crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy! all the best players on his team are 11 already.or going to be 11 within the next two months.

Not a single kid is in 6th grade. Not one. There may be kids that have been heldback for various reasons (or started kindergarten later), but that's how it works. LI teams are grade based. The tournaments they enter are grade based. The middle school, JV and Varsty teams they will play on will be grade based. If they play in college, they will be playing against kids that they graduated with or older. Long Island lacrosse is grade based, not age. Maryland is grade based (and they are much worse because they have kids go to pre-first, a grade between k and 1), Massachusettes, Pennsylvania, Jersey, Florida are grade based. Are you beginning to understand this now? You say that their may be kids turning 11 in a few months. And??? The cutoff for NY schools is December 1st. A kid born on that day is a true 5th grader. Many of these "holdbacks" were born September, October and November and the parents felt that they were not developmentally ready to begin school. Get over it. It will never change. And if you son is a decent athlete, the few months difference should not really matter.

Flat out lie. There are definitely 6th graders on the team. These people are friends with parents on other team and know what grade they are in. Don’t be a liar. And it will change because the lacrosse World Series changed over to age not graduation year two years ago so everyone will be forced to follow. And when lacrosse changes to age like every other sport has, all you cheating parents will be out of luck and your kids will be below average players on their grade level. What a loser you are to lie and defend the practice. That’s why your kid will always be a loser like you.

You are such a Meathead. First of all, WSYL isn’t attracting the top talent anymore, and it’s only been 2 years. Maryland clubs have written it off. No one is changing anything because of that. Also, how is having a 5th grader who turns 12 Ins November cheating? Teams are based on graduation year. Express, Legacy, Outlaws, Igloo, Ducks, etc.. are not U11 teams. They are 2025. So don’t get your panties once a bunch. Is junior going to have to play against these kids every year in School? Yes. Are you going to cry every game then? Better invest in some tissues, lady, because this is the reality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

If he is reclassifying kids and playing them on the 2025 team when they are actually still attending school in the 6th grade, then directors and coaches of other teams need to obtain the proof and file with each tournament that Channys team attends. It can’t be that hard to get proof on a few kids if this is happening. He has many good athletes without doing this, so it’s a really stupid risk to take.

HAHAHA!!! What planet are you from? what proof? This is going on with every grade group with ALL the clubs. It is so ridiculous. And if you think little Johnny is playing with all 10yr olds your crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy! all the best players on his team are 11 already.or going to be 11 within the next two months.

Not a single kid is in 6th grade. Not one. There may be kids that have been heldback for various reasons (or started kindergarten later), but that's how it works. LI teams are grade based. The tournaments they enter are grade based. The middle school, JV and Varsty teams they will play on will be grade based. If they play in college, they will be playing against kids that they graduated with or older. Long Island lacrosse is grade based, not age. Maryland is grade based (and they are much worse because they have kids go to pre-first, a grade between k and 1), Massachusettes, Pennsylvania, Jersey, Florida are grade based. Are you beginning to understand this now? You say that their may be kids turning 11 in a few months. And??? The cutoff for NY schools is December 1st. A kid born on that day is a true 5th grader. Many of these "holdbacks" were born September, October and November and the parents felt that they were not developmentally ready to begin school. Get over it. It will never change. And if you son is a decent athlete, the few months difference should not really matter.

Flat out lie. There are definitely 6th graders on the team. These people are friends with parents on other team and know what grade they are in. Don’t be a liar. And it will change because the lacrosse World Series changed over to age not graduation year two years ago so everyone will be forced to follow. And when lacrosse changes to age like every other sport has, all you cheating parents will be out of luck and your kids will be below average players on their grade level. What a loser you are to lie and defend the practice. That’s why your kid will always be a loser like you.

You are such a Meathead. First of all, WSYL isn’t attracting the top talent anymore, and it’s only been 2 years. Maryland clubs have written it off. No one is changing anything because of that. Also, how is having a 5th grader who turns 12 Ins November cheating? Teams are based on graduation year. Express, Legacy, Outlaws, Igloo, Ducks, etc.. are not U11 teams. They are 2025. So don’t get your panties once a bunch. Is junior going to have to play against these kids every year in School? Yes. Are you going to cry every game then? Better invest in some tissues, lady, because this is the reality.

First it was “not a single” now it’s “only one”. What a bunch of cheating liars. Cheating is cheating, one or more, and there are definitely more than one that wouldn’t fall within the cutoff date and are in different grades. We all know it. And parents of regular age kids that would play their kid on a cheating team like this for a T-shirt has issues. Great lesson for your kids.
And the only meathead is you. Get a life. Your kid still sucks and is going to turn into the short, bald, out of shape unathletic nome you are. Let us know how the B westchester tournament turns out. You should be real happy with your T-shirt. What a loser.

Whats the latest with the 91 Ice team?

Which teams are a team blatant

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which teams are a team blatant

Sweaty Nuts are entered.

Look out for the 2025 Long Island Knights Team this year. They are going to be one of the top teams in this age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which teams are a team blatant

Sweaty Nuts are entered.

We prefer to be called Winning Nuts!

They scored 10 goals in 4 games at Halloween Havoc
Get real

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which teams are a team blatant

Sweaty Nuts are entered.

We prefer to be called Winning Nuts!

Blast, Geese and RVC Futures must be off this weekend. Surprised no Dark Storm rising.

Your nuts are about to be busted

HOLY some people need a check up, from the neck up, parents talking about the WORLD SERIES and getting off on putting down 10 year old kids and teams, I pray that you are just a parent on the sidelines and not someone that coaches or teaches kids, its one thing to f-up your kids don't inflict it on others......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your nuts are about to be busted

Sweaty Nuts are the kings of the C teams. The tallest midgets.

All this "t-shirt" talk must be a Geese parent. Oh no that is a "hat" daddy's were crying about.

I have a serious question about the Sweaty Butts. Is it all coaches egos? Or do their kids really not play much on their other teams so the figure they can come play developmental teams and prove they’re not the worst kids on the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a serious question about the Sweaty Butts. Is it all coaches egos? Or do their kids really not play much on their other teams so the figure they can come play developmental teams and prove they’re not the worst kids on the team?

Blast is in hiding. Columbus Day, nope. Havoc, nope. Blatant, nope. Charlie Brown’s Great Pumpkin Invitational at Purchase, yep. What a joke. The coaches obviously saw what they had and decided tournaments were probably not such a good idea. They need to practice heavy before their figurehead coaches move on to their important teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I have a serious question about the Sweaty Butts. Is it all coaches egos? Or do their kids really not play much on their other teams so the figure they can come play developmental teams and prove they’re not the worst kids on the team?

Blast is in hiding. Columbus Day, nope. Havoc, nope. Blatant, nope. Charlie Brown’s Great Pumpkin Invitational at Purchase, yep. What a joke. The coaches obviously saw what they had and decided tournaments were probably not such a good idea. They need to practice heavy before their figurehead coaches move on to their important teams.

Why do you care? Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a serious question about the Sweaty Butts. Is it all coaches egos? Or do their kids really not play much on their other teams so the figure they can come play developmental teams and prove they’re not the worst kids on the team?

Blast is in hiding. Columbus Day, nope. Havoc, nope. Blatant, nope. Charlie Brown’s Great Pumpkin Invitational at Purchase, yep. What a joke. The coaches obviously saw what they had and decided tournaments were probably not such a good idea. They need to practice heavy before their figurehead coaches move on to their important teams.

Wow, you've got the kids the team all figured out. Are you sure you aren't a Blast Coach or a 91 Director?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

So it is ok for a sixth grader, graduating in June 2024 as you point out, to play in 2025?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a serious question about the Sweaty Butts. Is it all coaches egos? Or do their kids really not play much on their other teams so the figure they can come play developmental teams and prove they’re not the worst kids on the team?

Just a bunch of kids who’s fathers are trying to live vicarious through. Most aren’t the best on their respective teams. Maybe one or 2. If their kids were the top tier they wouldn’t waste their time in tournaments like this and risk getting injury or burning out in a meaningless tournaments. Let them have their glory it’s all they’ll ever have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

I think they are saying he has 2024, 6th graders, on his 2025 team. Not sure I get the point, holdbacks don't really make a major impact until 7th and 8th grade when they have an extra year of puberty. Of course, unless the kid has Eyetalian blood and hits puberty in 5th grade.

Charlie Brown Invitational is what Spallina was calling everyone last year who did not play in his tournament, how funny it is he dumps BLAST team and they are no where to be found . Good Luck to 91 when the coaches dump all of you in the Spring when they go back to there coaching jobs .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I have a serious question about the Sweaty Butts. Is it all coaches egos? Or do their kids really not play much on their other teams so the figure they can come play developmental teams and prove they’re not the worst kids on the team?

Blast is in hiding. Columbus Day, nope. Havoc, nope. Blatant, nope. Charlie Brown’s Great Pumpkin Invitational at Purchase, yep. What a joke. The coaches obviously saw what they had and decided tournaments were probably not such a good idea. They need to practice heavy before their figurehead coaches move on to their important teams.

Why do you care? Loser.

A year ago this team was playing up at the Havoc (in which Geese and Express where in on grade in that tourney ) and proclaiming they were the next Crush. That's why people care, people talk smack about their sons team and people can't wait to pounce. No agreeing or disagreeing, just stating the facts as I see them.

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Which team is your son on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

I think they are saying he has 2024, 6th graders, on his 2025 team. Not sure I get the point, holdbacks don't really make a major impact until 7th and 8th grade when they have an extra year of puberty. Of course, unless the kid has Eyetalian blood and hits puberty in 5th grade.

Please! Holdbacks have a HUGE impact especially at a young age. Why do you think there is such a debate regarding going age based in youth lax. 90% off the top kids on the top clubs are hold backs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

I understand your fustration but if they are new to travel they may be playing football, basketball, soccer or hockey. It's ok to let kids play other sports

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

I understand your fustration but if they are new to travel they may be playing football, basketball, soccer or hockey. It's ok to let kids play other sports

Holly crap BOTC used correctly.
That's no fun, someone crap on the Ducks or tell this dad he should have started travel 9 years ago for his 10-year-old and his coach sucks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

I understand your fustration but if they are new to travel they may be playing football, basketball, soccer or hockey. It's ok to let kids play other sports

The 10-12 kids that are consistently at practice play other sports as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

I think they are saying he has 2024, 6th graders, on his 2025 team. Not sure I get the point, holdbacks don't really make a major impact until 7th and 8th grade when they have an extra year of puberty. Of course, unless the kid has Eyetalian blood and hits puberty in 5th grade.

It’s the new Express format! Express has kids in every grade playing down. 2024 playing with 2025. 2023 playing with 2024 and so on for a lot of their A teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

Express model: 35 kids per team on the roster with over 50% almost never seeing the field other than in blowouts! No thank you! - no player should have to deal with that until you get to college, especially when you're paying to play!

try empire too, theyre supposed to be a good team this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

Express model: 35 kids per team on the roster with over 50% almost never seeing the field other than in blowouts! No thank you! - no player should have to deal with that until you get to college, especially when you're paying to play!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

Express model: 35 kids per team on the roster with over 50% almost never seeing the field other than in blowouts! No thank you! - no player should have to deal with that until you get to college, especially when you're paying to play!

Appreciate all the feed back. Will look into those teams.
Might have to make a move before the next payment is due.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

You hit the nail right on the head. Channy really only cares about the money, that’s why he stuffs his A team with kids. Don’t know why people drink the coolaide because there kids barely if at all actually play. Not sure why OReilly sticks around since he doesn’t have a chance of creating a decent team. But that’s his choice. However, its not right they charge parents outrageous sums for a B team which is the barely fieldable. If you can find a better team, jump ship sooner rather than later
.
Don’t rule out Legacy Blue Devils. I think they are going to be pretty good on the B level. And The Geese don’t overload their team so you don’t have the same problem as you face with Express. Plus Blue Devils have some good coaches.
Ducks Chaos or even Rage are good option.
Igloo
Mamaz Boyz is also a good B team
LI Knights was a strong B team last year, but didn’t do well in Halloween Havoc. So not sure about this year.
I would stay away from Empire. There 2025 team did not do well at all last year. I would wait a year to see if they improved.

Email the coaches or organizations and see if they have any spots your son can try out for. You would be surprised.
Good luck. I hope you and your son find a team he is happy with. This is a lot of money to pay, for your kid not to be happy doing it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

You hit the nail right on the head. Channy really only cares about the money, that’s why he stuffs his A team with kids. Don’t know why people drink the coolaide because there kids barely if at all actually play. Not sure why OReilly sticks around since he doesn’t have a chance of creating a decent team. But that’s his choice. However, its not right they charge parents outrageous sums for a B team which is the barely fieldable. If you can find a better team, jump ship sooner rather than later
.
Don’t rule out Legacy Blue Devils. I think they are going to be pretty good on the B level. And The Geese don’t overload their team so you don’t have the same problem as you face with Express. Plus Blue Devils have some good coaches.
Ducks Chaos or even Rage are good option.
Igloo
Mamaz Boyz is also a good B team
LI Knights was a strong B team last year, but didn’t do well in Halloween Havoc. So not sure about this year.
I would stay away from Empire. There 2025 team did not do well at all last year. I would wait a year to see if they improved.

Email the coaches or organizations and see if they have any spots your son can try out for. You would be surprised.
Good luck. I hope you and your son find a team he is happy with. This is a lot of money to pay, for your kid not to be happy doing it.

Can’t really blame Channy. He runs a business and if parents are willing to pay 3k for practices why stop them?

The Blue Devils are a solid B team. That team has been together for some time now. That’s the difference. It will take O’Reilly’s team fall, spring and half the summer to be on par with the stronger B teams. And before you know it’s tryouts again and come fall half the team is new again. It’s like a feeder program. He’s a great coach that isn’t able to keep a team together.

They are playing this weekend at Blatant. I want to see how they do. Will be a big deciding factor. Will also give me a chance to see how the other B teams play.

Here is an idea. You're the client, speak, not email or blog, with the organization and explain your concerns and see what the response is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.

I'm guessing your son plays on this organizations B team? This is the exact reason why B teams for an organization are no good.
My advice, go find a club where there is only 1 team per age group..... There are plenty around for this age
Go ask around with Recon, Outlaws, True Blue, Bluefish, Millon, Icon

Yes he does. frustrating for him b/c the drills don’t work and they don’t win. Then I wonder why thehell am I paying all this money for an upgraded PAL team. It could work if the A team coach stops hoarding kids.

You hit the nail right on the head. Channy really only cares about the money, that’s why he stuffs his A team with kids. Don’t know why people drink the coolaide because there kids barely if at all actually play. Not sure why OReilly sticks around since he doesn’t have a chance of creating a decent team. But that’s his choice. However, its not right they charge parents outrageous sums for a B team which is the barely fieldable. If you can find a better team, jump ship sooner rather than later
.
Don’t rule out Legacy Blue Devils. I think they are going to be pretty good on the B level. And The Geese don’t overload their team so you don’t have the same problem as you face with Express. Plus Blue Devils have some good coaches.
Ducks Chaos or even Rage are good option.
Igloo
Mamaz Boyz is also a good B team
LI Knights was a strong B team last year, but didn’t do well in Halloween Havoc. So not sure about this year.
I would stay away from Empire. There 2025 team did not do well at all last year. I would wait a year to see if they improved.

Email the coaches or organizations and see if they have any spots your son can try out for. You would be surprised.
Good luck. I hope you and your son find a team he is happy with. This is a lot of money to pay, for your kid not to be happy doing it.

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Can’t really blame Channy. He runs a business and if parents are willing to pay 3k for practices why stop them?

The Blue Devils are a solid B team. That team has been together for some time now. That’s the difference. It will take O’Reilly’s team fall, spring and half the summer to be on par with the stronger B teams. And before you know it’s tryouts again and come fall half the team is new again. It’s like a feeder program. He’s a great coach that isn’t able to keep a team together.

They are playing this weekend at Blatant. I want to see how they do. Will be a big deciding factor. Will also give me a chance to see how the other B teams play.
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I don’t think you can just say that Channy is not completely wrong for what he is doing. People have a right to make money but they also have an obligation to deliver the product.

Express B level teams are just income for Channy. He is using the reputation of his A level teams as a means of selling all his teams. But then he is overloading his A team to make even more money for himself, so the B team has the bottom ranked kids from the tryouts. Therefore, OReilly has no chance of fielding a decent team. But honestly I can’t respect OReilly. He is a good coach. But he is allowing Channy to do this and stays with the organization. So he must get paid well and that’s all he must care about. Or he would move to one of the other lacrosse organizations.

Meanwhile the bottom half of kids on Channys A team are decent kids but never really get an opportunity to develop in actual games. Channy is taking advantage of those parents “hope” that there kid may earn more playing time. And there isn’t a chance. Channy is an “acquirer” of talent. He wants those kids to get out there and know what to do. He is not interested in developing the player. And these kids are losing their opportunity to develop as a competitive player and will fall way behind other kids who are getting a lot more playing time on other teams.

And for kids that are the top 14 out of 30 on his A team, they are not getting the best training for their money either.. Because those coaches at practice are still spread out over 30 kids. Where they would get much better training if they had the typical 22-24 kids on a team. But in the end it won’t matter to Channy, because he can always acquire better kids the following year. The kids on top this year on his team, will end up as practice dummies the next year.

Parents need to wake up. Stop drinking the coolaide. You are being suckered by a slick salesman.

Channy does the same thing every team he coaches. This team is lucky they have under 30 kids (as of now). O'Reilly will stay until his son moves on or graduates. He doesn't have a choice either. It's all a game and they all butter each other's fingers with our money. Even if the coach cares a little bit, it's still money driven. It's a business. Take from it what benefits your son.

You people are all crazy. Channy is the best and will always be the best!! Hands down he has the Whitest teeth your money can buy.. His train does not run on coal, it runs on cash baby $$$. Got to love the man, proven winner!! He proves it everyday when he cashes your checks. Hey next payment is due, please make sure they are on time..$$$$

Express A teams are $4,000 this year and that’s just the costs you know about!!! Absurd!!!

Starting a new topic.

-What are people opinions regarding lacrosse clinics?
-Are there particular ones that people recommend on Long Island?
- Are there ones people have found were not worth the extra investment?
- Are there private coaches that people feel were worth the investment?

-What are people opinions regarding lacrosse clinics? (small groups, 6 or less are better)
-Are there particular ones that people recommend on Long Island? (there are dozens, but don't make the mistake that people always make of convenience, travel to find the best)
- Are there ones people have found were not worth the extra investment? (One on one that does shooting skills and general stick skills. I hate an hour of shooting on the run, great learn how to catch and throw, so you can shoot.)
- Are there private coaches that people feel were worth the investment? (I would rather not comment, because if I do I worry that somebody will come out with negative comments)

Who's heard of Team Frost ?????????????

Keenan clinics are the best for attack . Thursday's and Sunday's. Great instruction no matter team your kid plays for. Nassau county check out Storm Lax Academy . South Shore Tom Zummo clinics start up soon in Bay Shore All top level instruction

Originally Posted by Anonymous

-What are people opinions regarding lacrosse clinics? (small groups, 6 or less are better)
-Are there particular ones that people recommend on Long Island? (there are dozens, but don't make the mistake that people always make of convenience, travel to find the best)
- Are there ones people have found were not worth the extra investment? (One on one that does shooting skills and general stick skills. I hate an hour of shooting on the run, great learn how to catch and throw, so you can shoot.)
- Are there private coaches that people feel were worth the investment? (I would rather not comment, because if I do I worry that somebody will come out with negative comments)

Do you recommend any particular facilities on Long Island for lacrosse clinics?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keenan clinics are the best for attack . Thursday's and Sunday's. Great instruction no matter team your kid plays for. Nassau county check out Storm Lax Academy . South Shore Tom Zummo clinics start up soon in Bay Shore All top level instruction

Zummo’s clinic is good, but he needs to separate our boys from the older boys. Too much of a skill differential. I thought my kid was going to get his head taken off last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.[/quote

Speak up to the directors person to person. And say what you say above.

Looking for a 5th Grade Goalie for a small 7v7 tournament this Sunday Oct 22nd.. No Charge.. we are a NYC developmental program, we are using our best midfielder at goalie because we can't find one, would like him to get his reps at middie..Games are short 18 minute running time we have 4 games they are between 3pm and 6pm on Randalls Island we get a 5th game if have one of the 2 best records. We are playing against other NYC clubs the competition is probably B/C level. If there is a 5th grade goalie looking for more reps let me know, you can email bomberslacrosseclub@aol.com

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Thoughts on a decent weak A/strong B team other than Legacy or Express. The team my son is on cannot field an extra practice. And for regular practice it is always the same 10-12 kids that show up. As it gets colder it will only get worse. I think the coaches are getting frustrated too. Half the team is new to travel lacrosse.

Try the ducks, they are a great B team. Some good talent there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is your son on?

One of the 2 mentioned. The coaches are really great. Nothing against them. I actually feel bad for the coaches. A few of the parents that have been with team for some time say it seems they do not get an opportunity to keep a team together. Kids get pulled up and do not play (which the parents are ok with), they leave for another club or just decide not to do travel anymore. I understand teams will add a few players but half a team? The roster is just as big as their A team now. And b/c the coaches are fair, kids will get equal playing time regardless if they are at practice or not.[/quote

Speak up to the directors person to person. And say what you say above.

Many of the kids on lacrosse teams play other sports - as they should - and have conflicts. Fall ball for Lax is always tough to get the entire team at practice. Baseball, Football, Basketball, School, Kids sick... ALL kids especially at 10 should play more than just Lax. ALL the lax teams face this issue, so it wont be different anywhere else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

So it is ok for a sixth grader, graduating in June 2024 as you point out, to play in 2025?

So in two Yrs. when teams are qualifying for the WS and have to produce their respective Birth Certificates stating they were born after Sept 1st 2006. Some teams will loose older hold back 7th graders but some boys in 8th grade born after the Sept 1st cutoff will qualify.....Now does anyone have a problem with those 8th grade on age boys playing? Because I certainly do not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

So it is ok for a sixth grader, graduating in June 2024 as you point out, to play in 2025?

So in two Yrs. when teams are qualifying for the WS and have to produce their respective Birth Certificates stating they were born after Sept 1st 2006. Some teams will loose older hold back 7th graders but some boys in 8th grade born after the Sept 1st cutoff will qualify.....Now does anyone have a problem with those 8th grade on age boys playing? Because I certainly do not.

I would be 100% fine with that. There’s a problem with that example though. The rules for WSYL clearly state the all players must be on the teams all season, and not just for that tournament. This is a new rule this year. So technically, because NY is grade based, those younger 2024’s wouldn’t be eligible to play on the team for the whole season, thereby making them ineligible to play in the WSYL. Kind of a catch 22.

With that being said, I’m sure people will try to circumvent the rule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

So it is ok for a sixth grader, graduating in June 2024 as you point out, to play in 2025?

So in two Yrs. when teams are qualifying for the WS and have to produce their respective Birth Certificates stating they were born after Sept 1st 2006. Some teams will loose older hold back 7th graders but some boys in 8th grade born after the Sept 1st cutoff will qualify.....Now does anyone have a problem with those 8th grade on age boys playing? Because I certainly do not.

So if that's the way to do it, then it should apply to all of the teams. You think its ok now because Channy told you so, but today these teams and Tournaments say 2025. Is the kid graduating in 2024 or 2025? If the answer is 2024 then it's called cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

So it is ok for a sixth grader, graduating in June 2024 as you point out, to play in 2025?

So in two Yrs. when teams are qualifying for the WS and have to produce their respective Birth Certificates stating they were born after Sept 1st 2006. Some teams will loose older hold back 7th graders but some boys in 8th grade born after the Sept 1st cutoff will qualify.....Now does anyone have a problem with those 8th grade on age boys playing? Because I certainly do not.

I would be 100% fine with that. There’s a problem with that example though. The rules for WSYL clearly state the all players must be on the teams all season, and not just for that tournament. This is a new rule this year. So technically, because NY is grade based, those younger 2024’s wouldn’t be eligible to play on the team for the whole season, thereby making them ineligible to play in the WSYL. Kind of a catch 22.

With that being said, I’m sure people will try to circumvent the rule.

Just have two teams an on grade team and a U13 team in 2 years. Now it is "circumvented". The U13 will have separate practices and play in the qualifiers. In fact, I don't why all clubs just hold separate WSYL tryouts and have a WSYL only team. More tryout fees, more tourney fees and better for business. For example, look at this year add a few 8th graders born after 9/1/04 to some of the 2023 rosters and you'll see some different results. And if the current 2023 all don't make the WSYL team, oh well, that's life. Would love to see those parents at those tryouts...especially the entitled ones. I know I would send my son to tryout for one or two. He has an October birth date, but is on grade. so why not. Seems like an awesome experience and has some major backing. The event will continue to grow.

Channy has taken his time with my son, he has paid attention to him and really demonstrated that he cares about my boys’ best interests and development. And my kid isn’t a superstar or that experienced just yet. I don’t know the man well but thus far our experience has been a positive one. He’s blunt. He’s direct. He doesn’t care who is offended by that approach. He reminds me of old school coaches I had and that’s refreshing in today’s “every kid is a superstar” culture.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy has taken his time with my son, he has paid attention to him and really demonstrated that he cares about my boys’ best interests and development. And my kid isn’t a superstar or that experienced just yet. I don’t know the man well but thus far our experience has been a positive one. He’s blunt. He’s direct. He doesn’t care who is offended by that approach. He reminds me of old school coaches I had and that’s refreshing in today’s “every kid is a superstar” culture.

Does he play in a tie game with 5 minutes left? If no, he never will. Just being blunt.

No but he will come in when your superstar fakes an injury to get off the field so he doesn’t let you down. Enjoy your mixed nuts and keep wearing your kid down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No but he will come in when your superstar fakes an injury to get off the field so he doesn’t let you down. Enjoy your mixed nuts and keep wearing your kid down.

Keep saving your special flower. I’m sure he’ll bloom one day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No but he will come in when your superstar fakes an injury to get off the field so he doesn’t let you down. Enjoy your mixed nuts and keep wearing your kid down.

Such a hater. Why be that way? It would appear to the casual observer that you might benefit from letting your son have a little fun. Maybe if you ask nicely, (and it's a weekend when your little tyke doesn't have one of Channy's 10 fall tournaments or a private with Channy Jr,) your son can run free with the 'Nuts.

Life is short, it's fun to be a 'Nut!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No but he will come in when your superstar fakes an injury to get off the field so he doesn’t let you down. Enjoy your mixed nuts and keep wearing your kid down.

Such a hater. Why be that way? It would appear to the casual observer that you might benefit from letting your son have a little fun. Maybe if you ask nicely, (and it's a weekend when your little tyke doesn't have one of Channy's 10 fall tournaments or a private with Channy Jr,) your son can run free with the 'Nuts.

Life is short, it's fun to be a 'Nut!

Looks like Blast is actually following the mantra. Let’s play in only in really weak tournaments this fall against B teams and developmental teams. This way our kids will get some t-shirts this year, because it won’t happen in the summer. SN is the worst example of sportsmanship in youth lacrosse. It’s disgusting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No but he will come in when your superstar fakes an injury to get off the field so he doesn’t let you down. Enjoy your mixed nuts and keep wearing your kid down.

Such a hater. Why be that way? It would appear to the casual observer that you might benefit from letting your son have a little fun. Maybe if you ask nicely, (and it's a weekend when your little tyke doesn't have one of Channy's 10 fall tournaments or a private with Channy Jr,) your son can run free with the 'Nuts.

Life is short, it's fun to be a 'Nut!

Looks like Blast is actually following the mantra. Let’s play in only in really weak tournaments this fall against B teams and developmental teams. This way our kids will get some t-shirts this year, because it won’t happen in the summer. (Lacrosse) is the worst example of sportsmanship in youth lacrosse. It’s disgusting.

So sad! Only a really insecure person feels a need to insult other teams!
And I can guarantee you my kid will be in the field playing a lot more than yours. I feel bad for your kid. You want him on a team just to say he is a part of it. Not allowing him to actually enjoy playing it. Have fun cheering on the other players on the team, while ignoring the fact that your kid is really wishing he could be on a team where he can play rather than watch. But he is too afraid to tell you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No but he will come in when your superstar fakes an injury to get off the field so he doesn’t let you down. Enjoy your mixed nuts and keep wearing your kid down.

Such a hater. Why be that way? It would appear to the casual observer that you might benefit from letting your son have a little fun. Maybe if you ask nicely, (and it's a weekend when your little tyke doesn't have one of Channy's 10 fall tournaments or a private with Channy Jr,) your son can run free with the 'Nuts.

Life is short, it's fun to be a 'Nut!

Looks like Blast is actually following the mantra. Let’s play in only in really weak tournaments this fall against B teams and developmental teams. This way our kids will get some t-shirts this year, because it won’t happen in the summer. SN is the worst example of sportsmanship in youth lacrosse. It’s disgusting.

So sad! Only a really insecure person feels a need to insult other teams!
And I can guarantee you my kid will be in the field playing a lot more than yours. I feel bad for your kid. You want him on a team just to say he is a part of it. Not allowing him to actually enjoy playing it. Have fun cheering on the other players on the team, while ignoring the fact that your kid is really wishing he could be on a team where he can play rather than watch. But he is too afraid to tell you.

Keep telling yourself that. You Hugger coaches are a joke. Actually, I can’t call you coaches. You’re insecure fat and bald dads that know nothing about lacrosse.

Nuts are making peanut butter out of the competition. Looking good it their new threads.

Nuts clean up boys. Till the next one!!!

Anyone know how the teams did today at the Blatant Fall Jam

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how the teams did today at the Blatant Fall Jam

For the 20125s Express O'reilly went 4-0 and won their bracket. And apparently the Nutz won easy.

Nuts boys will get headswrapped by their goalie in a year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nuts boys will get headswrapped by their goalie in a year

You realize you’re talking about a 10 year old girl, right? You’re not funny. Disgusting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how the teams did today at the Blatant Fall Jam

For the 20125s Express O'reilly went 4-0 and won their bracket. And apparently the Nutz won easy.

And it was EASY!!!!

Serious question. Why is it OK for the TB coach (if you want to call him that) to curse like a sailor on the sideline?

It's not like that act is working. They don't look like the team is good enough as a result of his "efforts" to let young boys get abused like that.

As a parent, that can't be permitted, can it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No but he will come in when your superstar fakes an injury to get off the field so he doesn’t let you down. Enjoy your mixed nuts and keep wearing your kid down.

Such a hater. Why be that way? It would appear to the casual observer that you might benefit from letting your son have a little fun. Maybe if you ask nicely, (and it's a weekend when your little tyke doesn't have one of Channy's 10 fall tournaments or a private with Channy Jr,) your son can run free with the 'Nuts.

Life is short, it's fun to be a 'Nut!

Looks like Blast is actually following the mantra. Let’s play in only in really weak tournaments this fall against B teams and developmental teams. This way our kids will get some t-shirts this year, because it won’t happen in the summer. SN is the worst example of sportsmanship in youth lacrosse. It’s disgusting.

So sad! Only a really insecure person feels a need to insult other teams!
And I can guarantee you my kid will be in the field playing a lot more than yours. I feel bad for your kid. You want him on a team just to say he is a part of it. Not allowing him to actually enjoy playing it. Have fun cheering on the other players on the team, while ignoring the fact that your kid is really wishing he could be on a team where he can play rather than watch. But he is too afraid to tell you.

Keep telling yourself that. You Hugger coaches are a joke. Actually, I can’t call you coaches. You’re insecure fat and bald dads that know nothing about lacrosse.

Even sadder. You are so paranoid. You assume it’s Nutz coaches always responding to you. But I’m not a Nutz coach or a Nutz parent. There are others on this forum that think what you say is “disgusting”. No one is interested in your team bashing. Start concentrating on having fun with your kid, rather than using your kid to try to be something you wished you had been in your youth. Grow up.

Wondering if Legacy and 9D1 are aware of the Mixed Nuts. Not sure they would approve of their boys playing on another team being coached by non-lacrosse playing Dads who can't be helping their progress and may be creating division on their club teams. Zummo and Mule, any thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if Legacy and 9D1 are aware of the Mixed Nuts. Not sure they would approve of their boys playing on another team being coached by non-lacrosse playing Dads who can't be helping their progress and may be creating division on their club teams. Zummo and Mule, any thoughts?

LOL. Maybe they are not as insecure as you! Just too funny! 😂 Get a life man! 😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if Legacy and 9D1 are aware of the Mixed Nuts. Not sure they would approve of their boys playing on another team being coached by non-lacrosse playing Dads who can't be helping their progress and may be creating division on their club teams. Zummo and Mule, any thoughts?

LOL. Maybe they are not as insecure as you! Just too funny! 😂 Get a life man! 😂

Insecure, nope. Smarter than you, def.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if Legacy and 9D1 are aware of the Mixed Nuts. Not sure they would approve of their boys playing on another team being coached by non-lacrosse playing Dads who can't be helping their progress and may be creating division on their club teams. Zummo and Mule, any thoughts?

LOL. Maybe they are not as insecure as you! Just too funny! 😂 Get a life man! 😂

Insecure, nope. Smarter than you, def.

LOL 😂 Keep it up dude! You are killing me! 😂😂😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if Legacy and 9D1 are aware of the Mixed Nuts. Not sure they would approve of their boys playing on another team being coached by non-lacrosse playing Dads who can't be helping their progress and may be creating division on their club teams. Zummo and Mule, any thoughts?

LOL. Maybe they are not as insecure as you! Just too funny! 😂 Get a life man! 😂

Insecure, nope. Smarter than you, def.

Not involved with any these 3 teams. It's a free country and people are free to do what they want. So want to them you can pay to play with club, however, if you play with mixed nuts, you are cut. "c'mon man!" Let's start having all players sign contracts with each club saying you can play with us. Three Village demands that of their kids and saw the 2022s play today and they can use better coaching in my opinion they are well coached.

English, please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if Legacy and 9D1 are aware of the Mixed Nuts. Not sure they would approve of their boys playing on another team being coached by non-lacrosse playing Dads who can't be helping their progress and may be creating division on their club teams. Zummo and Mule, any thoughts?

LOL. Maybe they are not as insecure as you! Just too funny! 😂 Get a life man! 😂

Insecure, nope. Smarter than you, def.

Not involved with any these 3 teams. It's a free country and people are free to do what they want. So want to them you can pay to play with club, however, if you play with mixed nuts, you are cut. "c'mon man!" Let's start having all players sign contracts with each club saying you can play with us. Three Village demands that of their kids and saw the 2022s play today and they can use better coaching in my opinion they are well coached.

What??? You need to read over what you write before posting it! 🤔

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if Legacy and 9D1 are aware of the Mixed Nuts. Not sure they would approve of their boys playing on another team being coached by non-lacrosse playing Dads who can't be helping their progress and may be creating division on their club teams. Zummo and Mule, any thoughts?

LOL. Maybe they are not as insecure as you! Just too funny! 😂 Get a life man! 😂

Insecure, nope. Smarter than you, def.

Not involved with any these 3 teams. It's a free country and people are free to do what they want. So want to them you can pay to play with club, however, if you play with mixed nuts, you are cut. "c'mon man!" Let's start having all players sign contracts with each club saying you can play with us. Three Village demands that of their kids and saw the 2022s play today and they can use better coaching in my opinion they are well coached.

What??? You need to read over what you write before posting it! 🤔

It was just my blog rant...point is a team or a coach should never dictate where when a kid should be allowed to play. i find it so annoying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if Legacy and 9D1 are aware of the Mixed Nuts. Not sure they would approve of their boys playing on another team being coached by non-lacrosse playing Dads who can't be helping their progress and may be creating division on their club teams. Zummo and Mule, any thoughts?

LOL. Maybe they are not as insecure as you! Just too funny! 😂 Get a life man! 😂

Insecure, nope. Smarter than you, def.

Not involved with any these 3 teams. It's a free country and people are free to do what they want. So want to them you can pay to play with club, however, if you play with mixed nuts, you are cut. "c'mon man!" Let's start having all players sign contracts with each club saying you can play with us. Three Village demands that of their kids and saw the 2022s play today and they can use better coaching in my opinion they are well coached.

What??? You need to read over what you write before posting it! 🤔

It was just my blog rant...point is a team or a coach should never dictate where when a kid should be allowed to play. i find it so annoying.

100% correct. I have no respect for coaches who tell a kid they can't play outside the team. It show's they're insecure. Loyalty is earned, not given.

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

It was the A bracket. Unless you are saying Igloo and True Blue aren't A teams but their parents might disagree.

Blast playing in the pumpkin shoot out. Lol what is the mule in the witness protection program playing up there. Talking about dodging Express, Legacy, and The Might Ducks!!!

Last year express, 91 and igloo played in blatant fall jam a bracket. Sounds like an a tournament. Teams don't know until schedules are posted what teams are playing. Mixed nuts has players from 91, ducks and legacy so they probably only play when those teams are not. Who cares if they are playing on another team? They play for the love of the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Serious question. Why is it OK for the TB coach (if you want to call him that) to curse like a sailor on the sideline?

It's not like that act is working. They don't look like the team is good enough as a result of his "efforts" to let young boys get abused like that.

As a parent, that can't be permitted, can it?

The referees should give a warning for one rant and then throw a flag for the next one. That act needs to be cleaned up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

Here is an option why don't they enter the tournament and play up a year should be more challenging for them.

Great idea, play up a year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Serious question. Why is it OK for the TB coach (if you want to call him that) to curse like a sailor on the sideline?

It's not like that act is working. They don't look like the team is good enough as a result of his "efforts" to let young boys get abused like that.

As a parent, that can't be permitted, can it?

The referees should give a warning for one rant and then throw a flag for the next one. That act needs to be cleaned up!

It's NOT OK and that's why he shouldn't be around kids. What 8-10 yr olds should be subject to hearing that poor excuse of a man to be cursing and throwing hissy fits bc he team gets smoked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

It was the A bracket. Unless you are saying Igloo and True Blue aren't A teams but their parents might disagree.

True Blue is NOT an A team.... they B at best

How did Shore 2 Shore look for this age group this weekend ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Shore 2 Shore look for this age group this weekend ?

Like an just another program taking peoples money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

It was the A bracket. Unless you are saying Igloo and True Blue aren't A teams but their parents might disagree.

True Blue is NOT an A team.... they B at best

Not a TB parent, but in your eyes, everyone not AA is B, so your flawed perspective is worth nada . . .!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

It was the A bracket. Unless you are saying Igloo and True Blue aren't A teams but their parents might disagree.

True Blue is NOT an A team.... they B at best

Not a TB parent, but in your eyes, everyone not AA is B, so your flawed perspective is worth nada . . .!

Too funny, you have ZERO perspective on what I view as AA or A or whatever because you have zero clue who's posting. Your arrogance is hysterical. TB is NOT an A team for MANY reasons. There's AA like Geese and Channy... there's A teams and then there's high level B and down the line. TB entered low tier B/C level tourney's and did well - why bc the competition was low tier B/C level. Full of hubris they try to step up and play AA / A level talent... they got smoked and can't hang... THAT'S why they are B level team. Then we can go to the coaching, Cat is a JOKE.... that's all I'll say.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

It was the A bracket. Unless you are saying Igloo and True Blue aren't A teams but their parents might disagree.

True Blue is NOT an A team.... they B at best

Not a TB parent, but in your eyes, everyone not AA is B, so your flawed perspective is worth nada . . .!

Too funny, you have ZERO perspective on what I view as AA or A or whatever because you have zero clue who's posting. Your arrogance is hysterical. TB is NOT an A team for MANY reasons. There's AA like Geese and Channy... there's A teams and then there's high level B and down the line. TB entered low tier B/C level tourney's and did well - why bc the competition was low tier B/C level. Full of hubris they try to step up and play AA / A level talent... they got smoked and can't hang... THAT'S why they are B level team. Then we can go to the coaching, Cat is a JOKE.... that's all I'll say.

The LI lacrosse 'community' is pervasive across all ages about assessing almost all non AA teams as being "B" - it's actually laughable, so my comment stands . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy changing his name to Cheater. Anything for a win with that slime bucket. The 2024 kids he has are in 6th grade. Their parents must be proud thst their 6th grader is doing great with the 5th graders. New team 2025 Cheaters or better yet 2025 Express Slime

i don't understand your post. 2024 kids are suppose to be in 6th grade. they graduate in june of 2024.

So it is ok for a sixth grader, graduating in June 2024 as you point out, to play in 2025?

So in two Yrs. when teams are qualifying for the WS and have to produce their respective Birth Certificates stating they were born after Sept 1st 2006. Some teams will loose older hold back 7th graders but some boys in 8th grade born after the Sept 1st cutoff will qualify.....Now does anyone have a problem with those 8th grade on age boys playing? Because I certainly do not.

So if that's the way to do it, then it should apply to all of the teams. You think its ok now because Channy told you so, but today these teams and Tournaments say 2025. Is the kid graduating in 2024 or 2025? If the answer is 2024 then it's called cheating.

I think Its ok because I am the parent!!! A coaches job is to coach/teach my kid. That's it. Cheating???You say cheating, but you are ok with a kid who is born in March or June etc. of 2006 and the kid is in 5th grade?Technically older then the young 2024??? Sounds like you are the proud parent of a hold-back child to get an edge on the only sport he can. You sound scared. Don't be, they are the same age.

Goalie dads, can anyone give me their honest thoughts on whether it is worth it to have your goalie son play with a club team ? Or is it better to continue just with individual, specialized training ? I have been told my son should be playing club but have been reluctant to go further given the cost and whether it is really worth it from a goalie's perspective. However, I understand the idea that you cant replicate playing with and against better kids. Thanks !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goalie dads, can anyone give me their honest thoughts on whether it is worth it to have your goalie son play with a club team ? Or is it better to continue just with individual, specialized training ? I have been told my son should be playing club but have been reluctant to go further given the cost and whether it is really worth it from a goalie's perspective. However, I understand the idea that you cant replicate playing with and against better kids. Thanks !

"individual, specialized training" is not "playing" . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goalie dads, can anyone give me their honest thoughts on whether it is worth it to have your goalie son play with a club team ? Or is it better to continue just with individual, specialized training ? I have been told my son should be playing club but have been reluctant to go further given the cost and whether it is really worth it from a goalie's perspective. However, I understand the idea that you cant replicate playing with and against better kids. Thanks !

"individual, specialized training" is not "playing" . . .

My son played middie and was asked to get into the cage because his team didn't want to take last years goalie back. Kids MUST play in games.. a lot of being a good goalie is mental, overcoming giving up a few goals. It sucks but your going to end up spending more money than the rest of the team.
We got lucky, we have a goalie coach that retired in my town and loves to work with my son. I would ask around.. goalies are all crazy and love helping each other out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Serious question. Why is it OK for the TB coach (if you want to call him that) to curse like a sailor on the sideline?

It's not like that act is working. They don't look like the team is good enough as a result of his "efforts" to let young boys get abused like that.

As a parent, that can't be permitted, can it?

The referees should give a warning for one rant and then throw a flag for the next one. That act needs to be cleaned up!

It's NOT OK and that's why he shouldn't be around kids. What 8-10 yr olds should be subject to hearing that poor excuse of a man to be cursing and throwing hissy fits bc he team gets smoked.

You should definitely pull your son off the team. Sounds like you are very unhappy with the program. Good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

It was the A bracket. Unless you are saying Igloo and True Blue aren't A teams but their parents might disagree.

True Blue is NOT an A team.... they B at best

Not a TB parent, but in your eyes, everyone not AA is B, so your flawed perspective is worth nada . . .!

Too funny, you have ZERO perspective on what I view as AA or A or whatever because you have zero clue who's posting. Your arrogance is hysterical. TB is NOT an A team for MANY reasons. There's AA like Geese and Channy... there's A teams and then there's high level B and down the line. TB entered low tier B/C level tourney's and did well - why bc the competition was low tier B/C level. Full of hubris they try to step up and play AA / A level talent... they got smoked and can't hang... THAT'S why they are B level team. Then we can go to the coaching, Cat is a JOKE.... that's all I'll say.

So then:
Geese & Express- AA
Ducks, Blast & Igloo- A
Then who???

I think Its ok because I am the parent!!! A coaches job is to coach/teach my kid. That's it. Cheating???You say cheating, but you are ok with a kid who is born in March or June etc. of 2006 and the kid is in 5th grade?Technically older then the young 2024??? Sounds like you are the proud parent of a hold-back child to get an edge on the only sport he can. You sound scared. Don't be, they are the same age.

Sorry pal but the rules are the rules and you are a Cheat! My son is February 07 and easily on age. Birthday lottery winner but poor tax planning.

Sadly, my son has already been told this phony holdback story by your sons teammates who willingly talk about him behind his back. Then the other Express families are snickering about what kind of parents you and your wife are. They are polite, but most are just saddened by the whole sordid deal. One or two whose kids got screwed by you and Channy want to confront you but it's hard to go against the scum. We all know that you know better, it's just wrong and what you have chosen to do disrespects everyone.

Any victories for the team will be hollow, and worst of all your son knows he is a 6th grader playing down. I hope it doesn't eat at him, but it absolutely should eat at you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Shore 2 Shore look for this age group this weekend ?

Wow is your son on the team. I don't think anyone expected them to win it all in their first tournament. The scores showed two teams that competed. What more can you ask for in a new team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Its ok because I am the parent!!! A coaches job is to coach/teach my kid. That's it. Cheating???You say cheating, but you are ok with a kid who is born in March or June etc. of 2006 and the kid is in 5th grade?Technically older then the young 2024??? Sounds like you are the proud parent of a hold-back child to get an edge on the only sport he can. You sound scared. Don't be, they are the same age.

Sorry pal but the rules are the rules and you are a Cheat! My son is February 07 and easily on age. Birthday lottery winner but poor tax planning.

Sadly, my son has already been told this phony holdback story by your sons teammates who willingly talk about him behind his back. Then the other Express families are snickering about what kind of parents you and your wife are. They are polite, but most are just saddened by the whole sordid deal. One or two whose kids got screwed by you and Channy want to confront you but it's hard to go against the scum. We all know that you know better, it's just wrong and what you have chosen to do disrespects everyone.

Any victories for the team will be hollow, and worst of all your son knows he is a 6th grader playing down. I hope it doesn't eat at him, but it absolutely should eat at you.

December birthdays are THE REAL lottery winners AND great tax planning! ;-)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nuts "coaches" are exhibiting poor sportsmanship. Entering A level kids into a B tournament is poor form. Beating teams by 10 + goals is poor form. Loyalty does not only need to be earned by the travel coaches. Be loyal to your teammates and coaches, and they will be loyal to you, too. Just know, you reap what you sow. Good luck to your kids, they may need it in the future.

It was the A bracket. Unless you are saying Igloo and True Blue aren't A teams but their parents might disagree.

True Blue is NOT an A team.... they B at best

Not a TB parent, but in your eyes, everyone not AA is B, so your flawed perspective is worth nada . . .!

Too funny, you have ZERO perspective on what I view as AA or A or whatever because you have zero clue who's posting. Your arrogance is hysterical. TB is NOT an A team for MANY reasons. There's AA like Geese and Channy... there's A teams and then there's high level B and down the line. TB entered low tier B/C level tourney's and did well - why bc the competition was low tier B/C level. Full of hubris they try to step up and play AA / A level talent... they got smoked and can't hang... THAT'S why they are B level team. Then we can go to the coaching, Cat is a JOKE.... that's all I'll say.

So then:
Geese & Express- AA
Ducks, Blast & Igloo- A
Then who???

Mixed Nuts- AAA

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

This will never end because we let this happen all the time. All we do is complain. We should just stop a game when we see this and I bet the people who cheat will think twice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will never end because we let this happen all the time. All we do is complain. We should just stop a game when we see this and I bet the people who cheat will think twice

Please, please, please learn to use the Quote button - jeez!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please show me the rules that state it is ok for a boy born in 2006 but is in 5th grade to play?? Please produce that. and i will show you - us lacrosse age requirement that state any boy born after Aug.31st in 2006 pg 48 CAN play.
http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A1v7bf/2017YouthBoysRuleboo/html/index.html?page=48

I love how everyone thinks they know everything - no, I don't have a son on the team, wondering how the Club fared at various age groups as I have a younger son looking at several clubs.

Thanks for your insight tho very helpful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please show me the rules that state it is ok for a boy born in 2006 but is in 5th grade to play?? Please produce that. and i will show you - us lacrosse age requirement that state any boy born after Aug.31st in 2006 pg 48 CAN play.
http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A1v7bf/2017YouthBoysRuleboo/html/index.html?page=48

Please argue this for me on how this is not cheating.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

Hate to burst your bubble but Oreilly's team has a couple of 6th graders. It happens. I don't have any issues with it on B or even C teams. A teams should all be straight grade no one should play down on an A team. You see this a lot on the younger teams. There are so many 2024 kids and limited teams the ones taht can play get put down and they dont have the skills or size to play up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please Stop it 91 dad. Do you realize what you just said "hold backs are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand" If the boy in question is within the horrible age rules(as you so put it) Aug,31st. Then who cares what Grade he is in??I know Its the parents that held back there kids that are making the biggest gripe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please show me the rules that state it is ok for a boy born in 2006 but is in 5th grade to play?? Please produce that. and i will show you - us lacrosse age requirement that state any boy born after Aug.31st in 2006 pg 48 CAN play.
http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A1v7bf/2017YouthBoysRuleboo/html/index.html?page=48

While USL has put out rules for age-based play, they have not yet insisted that teams, tournaments, clubs use age-based play yet. At this point, most of youth lacrosse is still grade-based. USL is a very weak governing organization - they are trying to gradually push towards age-based play, but not very hard, or at least not nearly as hard as they could - their phased-in approach is way too slow and passive. They could very easily force the hand by taking a position that clubs, tournaments, etc that are not age-based are not in compliance with USL and therefore lose all rights/benefits, specifically insurance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please Stop it 91 dad. Do you realize what you just said "hold backs are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand" If the boy in question is within the horrible age rules(as you so put it) Aug,31st. Then who cares what Grade he is in??I know Its the parents that held back there kids that are making the biggest gripe.

Blast doesn't have any holdbacks. Theyre all on age 2025's and 1 2026 who won't be 10 until next year.

Mixed Nuts, you have to beat Geese and 91 before you can proclaim yourself AAA. Oh, wait.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please Stop it 91 dad. Do you realize what you just said "hold backs are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand" If the boy in question is within the horrible age rules(as you so put it) Aug,31st. Then who cares what Grade he is in??I know Its the parents that held back there kids that are making the biggest gripe.

Simple question, is the kid in 6th grade. If the answer is yes (and it is), he should not be playing 2025.

And how did the cheating work out for you vs the Geese?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please show me the rules that state it is ok for a boy born in 2006 but is in 5th grade to play?? Please produce that. and i will show you - us lacrosse age requirement that state any boy born after Aug.31st in 2006 pg 48 CAN play.
http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A1v7bf/2017YouthBoysRuleboo/html/index.html?page=48

While USL has put out rules for age-based play, they have not yet insisted that teams, tournaments, clubs use age-based play yet. At this point, most of youth lacrosse is still grade-based. USL is a very weak governing organization - they are trying to gradually push towards age-based play, but not very hard, or at least not nearly as hard as they could - their phased-in approach is way too slow and passive. They could very easily force the hand by taking a position that clubs, tournaments, etc that are not age-based are not in compliance with USL and therefore lose all rights/benefits, specifically insurance.

The kid in question does not make the Aug 31. CUT OFF!!!!!!

Please explain this to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please show me the rules that state it is ok for a boy born in 2006 but is in 5th grade to play?? Please produce that. and i will show you - us lacrosse age requirement that state any boy born after Aug.31st in 2006 pg 48 CAN play.
http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A1v7bf/2017YouthBoysRuleboo/html/index.html?page=48

While USL has put out rules for age-based play, they have not yet insisted that teams, tournaments, clubs use age-based play yet. At this point, most of youth lacrosse is still grade-based. USL is a very weak governing organization - they are trying to gradually push towards age-based play, but not very hard, or at least not nearly as hard as they could - their phased-in approach is way too slow and passive. They could very easily force the hand by taking a position that clubs, tournaments, etc that are not age-based are not in compliance with USL and therefore lose all rights/benefits, specifically insurance.

The kid in question does not make the Aug 31. CUT OFF!!!!!!

Please explain this to me.

I am all for age-based play, but show me where there are age-based rules for non age-based (IE, grade-based play)? Your are citing rules for USL's age-based play, which is ONLY recommended. Each one of the sections for "Age and Eligitbilty" sections of the rules ONLY apply IF the team/club/tournament has adopted USL's age-based play, which for most games is not the case. (https://www.uslacrosse.org/sites/de.../player-segmentation-task-force-recs.pdf)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

They basically played in a C bracket this weekend., At Columbus Day they went 0-3 with only 3 goals scored vs 30 against.

My son is in 6th grade--- but he's on a 2026 team. He's not very bright and I assume his glory days are with us now for a short period.

We will be held back in the future.....Maybe-- most probably.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

They basically played in a C bracket this weekend., At Columbus Day they went 0-3 with only 3 goals scored vs 30 against.

What team is your son on? And what are your credentials since you seem to know so little.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please Stop it 91 dad. Do you realize what you just said "hold backs are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand" If the boy in question is within the horrible age rules(as you so put it) Aug,31st. Then who cares what Grade he is in??I know Its the parents that held back there kids that are making the biggest gripe.

Blast doesn't have any holdbacks. Theyre all on age 2025's and 1 2026 who won't be 10 until next year.

I guess that's why you guys are pumpkin picking at purchase this weekend. And not face legacy or express???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please Stop it 91 dad. Do you realize what you just said "hold backs are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand" If the boy in question is within the horrible age rules(as you so put it) Aug,31st. Then who cares what Grade he is in??I know Its the parents that held back there kids that are making the biggest gripe.

Blast doesn't have any holdbacks. Theyre all on age 2025's and 1 2026 who won't be 10 until next year.

I guess that's why you guys are pumpkin picking at purchase this weekend. And not face legacy or express???

I don't disagree with the choice. They had (as talked about here, which as we all know is not entirely accurate) a odd season last year, now have new coaches and I am sure new faces. Let them come together as a team before throwing then against the best. It's like some people can't to talk about them losing.

So it appears that Blast is playing the easiest tournament possible. I’ve never even heard of those teams! Jeez, and we thought the Sweary Balls were a joke.

Geese, Ducks and Channy playing on LI this weekend. Wonder why Blast has to travel?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it appears that Blast is playing the easiest tournament possible. I’ve never even heard of those teams! Jeez, and we thought the Sweary Balls were a joke.

I believe JS referees that to the CHARLIE BROWN TOURNAMENT...GOOD LUCK BLAST

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese, Ducks and Channy playing on LI this weekend. Wonder why Blast has to travel?

Get a life, the foliage is beautiful up there this time over year, This will be a family fun trip for us. We are all family now, all out pumpkin picking!! Aren't you jealous??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mixed Nuts, you have to beat Geese and 91 before you can proclaim yourself AAA. Oh, wait.......

you're on LI there is no proclaimed AAA they tell daddy's that to make him feel better while they open their mouths to put down others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it appears that Blast is playing the easiest tournament possible. I’ve never even heard of those teams! Jeez, and we thought the Sweary Balls were a joke.

I believe JS referees that to the CHARLIE BROWN TOURNAMENT...GOOD LUCK BLAST

I don't think JS referees anything except maybe his kids. Read what you write before you post, dope.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it appears that Blast is playing the easiest tournament possible. I’ve never even heard of those teams! Jeez, and we thought the Sweary Balls were a joke.

I believe JS referees that to the CHARLIE BROWN TOURNAMENT...GOOD LUCK BLAST

I don't think JS referees anything except maybe his kids. Read what you write before you post, dope.

And get it straight; it is the Charlie Brown Invitational! And Blast will be the greatest pumpkins there! JS would be so proud! I guess Mule and O’Keefe have seen what we all have been seeing.

Cheating, cheat, cheaters!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please show me the rules that state it is ok for a boy born in 2006 but is in 5th grade to play?? Please produce that. and i will show you - us lacrosse age requirement that state any boy born after Aug.31st in 2006 pg 48 CAN play.
http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A1v7bf/2017YouthBoysRuleboo/html/index.html?page=48

While USL has put out rules for age-based play, they have not yet insisted that teams, tournaments, clubs use age-based play yet. At this point, most of youth lacrosse is still grade-based. USL is a very weak governing organization - they are trying to gradually push towards age-based play, but not very hard, or at least not nearly as hard as they could - their phased-in approach is way too slow and passive. They could very easily force the hand by taking a position that clubs, tournaments, etc that are not age-based are not in compliance with USL and therefore lose all rights/benefits, specifically insurance.

The kid in question does not make the Aug 31. CUT OFF!!!!!!

Please explain this to me.

How about this weekend.. you bring signs and point the kid out? Maybe go with a bell and chant "Shame Shame Shame"

If not, SHUT UP!

Until you call his parents & Shammy out.. no one is doing anything. You really think the kid woke up and said, "Mom & Dad, can I play with the kids that's aren't my friends in school so you feel good about yourself"

i love how everyone talks about hold backs. Really. come on .. Been going on for years. makes a very small impact. There are plenty of kids that play up, and out paly the older boys. So enough with the excuses. Your kid either has it or he does not. learn to deal with it, stop complaining. and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i love how everyone talks about hold backs. Really. come on .. Been going on for years. makes a very small impact. There are plenty of kids that play up, and out paly the older boys. So enough with the excuses. Your kid either has it or he does not. learn to deal with it, stop complaining. and move on.

Good thing hockey, baseball, basketball, soccer, etc, etc, etc - pretty much EVERY OTHER major youth sport - all didn't take your recommendation to "deal with it, stop complaining. <SIC> and move on". Get the point?!

Too bad the ducks aren't playing channy, just the geese, which means the ducks will most likely face one of them in the finals

Hey, we all know it's not the kid! It's the parents!
I just hope that the kid isn't permanently damaged by the negligent and abusive parenting he must be subjected to.

Looking for real feed back on the LI Outlaws Clinics. It is cheap compared to a lot of other clinics. Thoughts?

"Looking for real feed back on the LI Outlaws Clinics. It is cheap compared to a lot of other clinics. Thoughts?"

My sons play for a different organizations, and no thoughts of moving, but the Outlaw clinics are generally decent and a good value.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Looking for real feed back on the LI Outlaws Clinics. It is cheap compared to a lot of other clinics. Thoughts?"

My sons play for a different organizations, and no thoughts of moving, but the Outlaw clinics are generally decent and a good value.

School ball is always a mix between the years... in all sports, so stop please...Know what you are talking about. Club sports do the same. and Soccer is the only sport that just recently changed. to ... it all balances in the end..

The only ones that can stop it are the tournament organizers. USA lacrosse has not mandated a universal id card for players and as a result players play wherever their parents register them. If like soccer the kids that were playing lined up with their id cards in the center of the field and the referees checked them then it would eliminate the issue. This will not happen because its about getting as many teams to register for your tournament. Why as many teams because its a business. If a tournament put in the restriction of validated age per year born not graduation year many teams would be unable to play. Issue is if one tournament is asking for age verification there are 5 others on the same day that are not and as a result teams and whole programs will go to the tournaments not requiring the proof of age. Whats interesting is that USA lacrosse has something in place but are not willing to implement it. Most kids have USA lacrosse id numbers. So if a player is registered with US lacrosse they already have an id# and a means to create a system to monitor birth year play. Its that simple. If parents held US lacrosse accountable maybe they would not turn a blind eye to it. Most tournaments and events are US lacrosse backed with insurance so it would be simple to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please Stop it 91 dad. Do you realize what you just said "hold backs are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand" If the boy in question is within the horrible age rules(as you so put it) Aug,31st. Then who cares what Grade he is in??I know Its the parents that held back there kids that are making the biggest gripe.

Blast doesn't have any holdbacks. Theyre all on age 2025's and 1 2026 who won't be 10 until next year.

Now you know there are quite a few boys on blast born in 2006. Talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Originally Posted by America's Game

The only ones that can stop it are the tournament organizers. USA lacrosse has not mandated a universal id card for players and as a result players play wherever their parents register them. If like soccer the kids that were playing lined up with their id cards in the center of the field and the referees checked them then it would eliminate the issue. This will not happen because its about getting as many teams to register for your tournament. Why as many teams because its a business. If a tournament put in the restriction of validated age per year born not graduation year many teams would be unable to play. Issue is if one tournament is asking for age verification there are 5 others on the same day that are not and as a result teams and whole programs will go to the tournaments not requiring the proof of age. Whats interesting is that USA lacrosse has something in place but are not willing to implement it. Most kids have USA lacrosse id numbers. So if a player is registered with US lacrosse they already have an id# and a means to create a system to monitor birth year play. Its that simple. If parents held US lacrosse accountable maybe they would not turn a blind eye to it. Most tournaments and events are US lacrosse backed with insurance so it would be simple to do.

From your lips to Gods ears.There are so many parents that feel the same way. Great post!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Looking for real feed back on the LI Outlaws Clinics. It is cheap compared to a lot of other clinics. Thoughts?"

My sons play for a different organizations, and no thoughts of moving, but the Outlaw clinics are generally decent and a good value.

School ball is always a mix between the years... in all sports, so stop please...Know what you are talking about. Club sports do the same. and Soccer is the only sport that just recently changed. to ... it all balances in the end..

Wow - trying to connect your response to the quoted post and just left scratching my head . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Express get to be considered AA if they feature a 6th grader? Doesn't that make them a 2024 team?

Oreilly's team is a true 2025 group of kids that played well this weekend.

I feel bad for the kid, its the parents who allow this. Did they think they would sneak in and go unnoticed? The lax world might be crazy, but it's still a small community. Holdbacks are bad but at least within the horrible age rules as they stand. This matter of a 6th grade 2024 boy who plans to stay in that grade, born in 2006 and playing 2025 with the approval of Channy and the clearly abusive and sick parents is just taking cheating to another level.

If all the organizations formed teams based on WSYL dates, then so be it, but those are not the rules now and the Tournaments should prevent this.

I really do feel bad for the kid. He will have to carry this with him.

Please show me the rules that state it is ok for a boy born in 2006 but is in 5th grade to play?? Please produce that. and i will show you - us lacrosse age requirement that state any boy born after Aug.31st in 2006 pg 48 CAN play.
http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A1v7bf/2017YouthBoysRuleboo/html/index.html?page=48

While USL has put out rules for age-based play, they have not yet insisted that teams, tournaments, clubs use age-based play yet. At this point, most of youth lacrosse is still grade-based. USL is a very weak governing organization - they are trying to gradually push towards age-based play, but not very hard, or at least not nearly as hard as they could - their phased-in approach is way too slow and passive. They could very easily force the hand by taking a position that clubs, tournaments, etc that are not age-based are not in compliance with USL and therefore lose all rights/benefits, specifically insurance.

The kid in question does not make the Aug 31. CUT OFF!!!!!!

Please explain this to me.

If the kid in question made the Aug.31st cutoff I would have no problem with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i love how everyone talks about hold backs. Really. come on .. Been going on for years. makes a very small impact. There are plenty of kids that play up, and out paly the older boys. So enough with the excuses. Your kid either has it or he does not. learn to deal with it, stop complaining. and move on.

You are so wrong.This sport has grown so much in the last 5yrs.1 year makes a huge difference in youth sports. My kid has it! He Works hard and is very athletic. He plays other on AGE sports and stands out. He enjoys and shows his best skills at lacrosse. Yet only falls short to some of the hold backs. What I see out there, is 85% of the best players on the best teams but not all were born in 2006.

Wow little Johnny is a stand out at 11 years old way to go , last time I checked kids get moved up in High school and it all becomes even and in travel after 15 it all levels out . I am glad you have all the answers go hit the wall with your son little Rabil

If you think holding back kids does not give them an enormous advantage then you are clueless. Why do it if there is no advantage?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow little Johnny is a stand out at 11 years old way to go , last time I checked kids get moved up in High school and it all becomes even and in travel after 15 it all levels out . I am glad you have all the answers go hit the wall with your son little Rabil

Your quote holds no substance in this argument. We are not talking about High School sports. This is youth sports and should be age based. When its time to evaluate Johnny the young man for the HS team an determine if he should get moved up. That's fine.Until that time, I want him playing with kids his own age.No disrespect for the parents of hold backs for whatever reason you felt it necessary to hold them back. However, they should play sports with kids there own age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow little Johnny is a stand out at 11 years old way to go , last time I checked kids get moved up in High school and it all becomes even and in travel after 15 it all levels out . I am glad you have all the answers go hit the wall with your son little Rabil

Your quote holds no substance in this argument. We are not talking about High School sports. This is youth sports and should be age based. When its time to evaluate Johnny the young man for the HS team an determine if he should get moved up. That's fine.Until that time, I want him playing with kids his own age.No disrespect for the parents of hold backs for whatever reason you felt it necessary to hold them back. However, they should play sports with kids there own age.

Clearly there are too many on BOTC that have no clue about the differences between preadolescent, prepubescent, and pubescent stages and what they mean relative to athletics. There are so many studies related to this, easily available online that it boggles the mind that anyone would continue to argue against age-based play for preadolescent and/or prepubescent ages. There is absolutely ZERO arguments for grade-based play ta these ages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, we all know it's not the kid! It's the parents!
I just hope that the kid isn't permanently damaged by the negligent and abusive parenting he must be subjected to.

your 2025 is clearly your oldest. guess what, this happens all the time. wait until 7th/8th grade. there will be at least 5-6 more. its worse in MD and PA. most of their 2025s are 2006 bdays

Now you know there are quite a few boys on blast born in 2006. Talking out of both sides of your mouth

Quite a few? Nope, but there are one or two who are holdbacks with '06 birthdates. But it's a guarantee that there are no 6th grade boys like you now have so go sell your lie to your pals at Express practice.

It's interesting to me that Channy promotes his experience at the Naval Academy where they have a strict honor code. Then he has the stones and the lack of moral fiber that allows him to serve up this despicable bull crap.

Cheating, cheaters, money grabbing, huge rostering, playing down scum, cheats!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cheating, cheaters, money grabbing, huge rostering, playing down scum, cheats!

So tell us how you really feel!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cheating, cheaters, money grabbing, huge rostering, playing down scum, cheats!

don't forget winners

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now you know there are quite a few boys on blast born in 2006. Talking out of both sides of your mouth

Quite a few? Nope, but there are one or two who are holdbacks with '06 birthdates. But it's a guarantee that there are no 6th grade boys like you now have so go sell your lie to your pals at Express practice.

It's interesting to me that Channy promotes his experience at the Naval Academy where they have a strict honor code. Then he has the stones and the lack of moral fiber that allows him to serve up this despicable bull crap.

Yes the boy has a very late 2006 birthday. Let's stone him and his parents for cheating the system and holding him back a month. How dare they! He should be in 6th grade playing on the Channy 2025 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cheating, cheaters, money grabbing, huge rostering, playing down scum, cheats!

don't forget winners

Isn't that akin to calling a white collar crime guy "successful"??

You guys need to find a hobby or something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now you know there are quite a few boys on blast born in 2006. Talking out of both sides of your mouth

Quite a few? Nope, but there are one or two who are holdbacks with '06 birthdates. But it's a guarantee that there are no 6th grade boys like you now have so go sell your lie to your pals at Express practice.

It's interesting to me that Channy promotes his experience at the Naval Academy where they have a strict honor code. Then he has the stones and the lack of moral fiber that allows him to serve up this despicable bull crap.

Yes the boy has a very late 2006 birthday. Let's stone him and his parents for cheating the system and holding him back a month. How dare they! He should be in 6th grade playing on the Channy 2025 team.

A kid who is a 6th grader (2024) playing against all 5th graders knows what is happening to him. It's really sad he is being made to do this by Channy and the parents. That's where the blame really lies, I hope they are saving up for the psychological help the kid will need when this doesn't work out.

Good luck to Blast at whatever Mickey Mouse tournament they’re at this weekend. Again, Geese, Ducks And Express challenging themselves and improving on LI in the best possible tournaments. I think I figured it out. Mule and O’Keefe know how crazy and insecure Blastards are. They know that it’s better to delay the inevitable. Why lose in the fall and have the parents start calling for a coaching change in October when you can delay that til June? It’s actually a good strategy... if you’re a bunch of Mary’s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck to Blast at whatever Mickey Mouse tournament they’re at this weekend. Again, Geese, Ducks And Express challenging themselves and improving on LI in the best possible tournaments. I think I figured it out. Mule and O’Keefe know how crazy and insecure Blastards are. They know that it’s better to delay the inevitable. Why lose in the fall and have the parents start calling for a coaching change in October when you can delay that til June? It’s actually a good strategy... if you’re a bunch of Mary’s.

Thank you for the well wishes! This team is being led by an amazing staff this season. We recognize what we have. Keep bashing the boys now while you can, since you seem to get some sick satisfaction out of it. Enjoy the fall.......summer is closer than you think.

You sound really angry where this 10 year old lacrosse team is playing this weekend. You must have a lot of important things going on in your life. I only care about my son and his team, I don't care what other 10 year old boys are doing on Saturday. Do you see the difference between you and I.

College Fall Ball was hot and heavy the past three weekends therefore the Blast staff was busy. Not a big deal but that is why they didn't play. Listen, you are a good team, you were last year. You beat the Express and went to a Braveheart with us, but we have the best player in the grade and Channy never takes our starters out. Legacy is very good too, especially when the owners holdback son plays down. JS sold you guys on being the next Crush, not going to happen, almost impossible to duplicate. Enjoy your kids and stop being so angry and defensive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck to Blast at whatever Mickey Mouse tournament they’re at this weekend. Again, Geese, Ducks And Express challenging themselves and improving on LI in the best possible tournaments. I think I figured it out. Mule and O’Keefe know how crazy and insecure Blastards are. They know that it’s better to delay the inevitable. Why lose in the fall and have the parents start calling for a coaching change in October when you can delay that til June? It’s actually a good strategy... if you’re a bunch of Mary’s.

Coaching change? Mule and O'Keefe run 91, dumb@ss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College Fall Ball was hot and heavy the past three weekends therefore the Blast staff was busy. Not a big deal but that is why they didn't play. Listen, you are a good team, you were last year. You beat the Express and went to a Braveheart with us, but we have the best player in the grade and Channy never takes our starters out. Legacy is very good too, especially when the owners holdback son plays down. JS sold you guys on being the next Crush, not going to happen, almost impossible to duplicate. Enjoy your kids and stop being so angry and defensive.

You forgot the part about having 11 and 12 yrs olds on a 10yr lacrosse team. Even with the "best" player and his older friends its hard for you to beat geese. So I would not pick on Blast buddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College Fall Ball was hot and heavy the past three weekends therefore the Blast staff was busy. Not a big deal but that is why they didn't play. Listen, you are a good team, you were last year. You beat the Express and went to a Braveheart with us, but we have the best player in the grade and Channy never takes our starters out. Legacy is very good too, especially when the owners holdback son plays down. JS sold you guys on being the next Crush, not going to happen, almost impossible to duplicate. Enjoy your kids and stop being so angry and defensive.

You forgot the part about having 11 and 12 yrs olds on a 10yr lacrosse team. Even with the "best" player and his older friends its hard for you to beat geese. So I would not pick on Blast buddy.

Its ok to play down, Channy said so.... they call it the double secret holdback!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College Fall Ball was hot and heavy the past three weekends therefore the Blast staff was busy. Not a big deal but that is why they didn't play. Listen, you are a good team, you were last year. You beat the Express and went to a Braveheart with us, but we have the best player in the grade and Channy never takes our starters out. Legacy is very good too, especially when the owners holdback son plays down. JS sold you guys on being the next Crush, not going to happen, almost impossible to duplicate. Enjoy your kids and stop being so angry and defensive.

You forgot the part about having 11 and 12 yrs olds on a 10yr lacrosse team. Even with the "best" player and his older friends its hard for you to beat geese. So I would not pick on Blast buddy.

I thought we all understood many of the blast boys tuning 11 in 2006. Your argument was grade not age!!!Cant have it both ways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College Fall Ball was hot and heavy the past three weekends therefore the Blast staff was busy. Not a big deal but that is why they didn't play. Listen, you are a good team, you were last year. You beat the Express and went to a Braveheart with us, but we have the best player in the grade and Channy never takes our starters out. Legacy is very good too, especially when the owners holdback son plays down. JS sold you guys on being the next Crush, not going to happen, almost impossible to duplicate. Enjoy your kids and stop being so angry and defensive.

You forgot the part about having 11 and 12 yrs olds on a 10yr lacrosse team. Even with the "best" player and his older friends its hard for you to beat geese. So I would not pick on Blast buddy.

Its ok to play down, Channy said so.... they call it the double secret holdback!

Dean Wormer approved it . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now you know there are quite a few boys on blast born in 2006. Talking out of both sides of your mouth

Quite a few? Nope, but there are one or two who are holdbacks with '06 birthdates. But it's a guarantee that there are no 6th grade boys like you now have so go sell your lie to your pals at Express practice.

It's interesting to me that Channy promotes his experience at the Naval Academy where they have a strict honor code. Then he has the stones and the lack of moral fiber that allows him to serve up this despicable bull crap.

Yes the boy has a very late 2006 birthday. Let's stone him and his parents for cheating the system and holding him back a month. How dare they! He should be in 6th grade playing on the Channy 2025 team.

A kid who is a 6th grader (2024) playing against all 5th graders knows what is happening to him. It's really sad he is being made to do this by Channy and the parents. That's where the blame really lies, I hope they are saving up for the psychological help the kid will need when this doesn't work out.

same as the 5th grade kid that goes to lax practice and invites all the boys to his 11yr old birthday party. What do you think these kids don't get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College Fall Ball was hot and heavy the past three weekends therefore the Blast staff was busy. Not a big deal but that is why they didn't play. Listen, you are a good team, you were last year. You beat the Express and went to a Braveheart with us, but we have the best player in the grade and Channy never takes our starters out. Legacy is very good too, especially when the owners holdback son plays down. JS sold you guys on being the next Crush, not going to happen, almost impossible to duplicate. Enjoy your kids and stop being so angry and defensive.

It's not us you jerkoff...it's your sons team

Any predictions for this weekend in Uniondale? What's the over/under for the total amount of goals the blast give up tomorrow? I'm saying 6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for this weekend in Uniondale? What's the over/under for the total amount of goals the blast give up tomorrow? I'm saying 6

Yes, sunny and a perfect autumn day for lax. Really great line up across all the grades.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for this weekend in Uniondale? What's the over/under for the total amount of goals the blast give up tomorrow? I'm saying 6

Geese and Express in the championship with Geese taking it. Blast will give up 10 goals, girl goalie is injured.

Geese and Channy will not be in championship because they play each other in the first three games. So one of them will have a 2 to 1 record. Looking at matches the only team that has the probability of having a 3 to 0 record would be Blue Devils. So championship will be Blue Devils vs either Geese or Channy.

Blast loses to Express North. Wow... that team really fell quickly.

Any time a team takes the field with their starting goalie on the sideline in a cast, the results of the games are certainly up in the air. This team played their hearts out including the back up goalie who made some great saves. After losing to Express North 6-5 in the first game, they stormed back 30 minutes later and defeated them 6-2 in the championship game. This is a great group of kids with a tremendous coaching staff: They are hardly a team that has "fallen quickly". They certainly are not interested in listening to your nonsense......really. Find something else to occupy your time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for this weekend in Uniondale? What's the over/under for the total amount of goals the blast give up tomorrow? I'm saying 6

Geese and Express in the championship with Geese taking it. Blast will give up 10 goals, girl goalie is injured.

1 out of 2 right.

And Channy didn’t have an injured goalie and yet gave up 10 goals also. 😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

You live in a fantasy land if you really believe Muxed Nuts is a team. When the top teams are all playing, “poof”, no mixed nuts. Get real!! 🤡

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time a team takes the field with their starting goalie on the sideline in a cast, the results of the games are certainly up in the air. This team played their hearts out including the back up goalie who made some great saves. After losing to Express North 6-5 in the first game, they stormed back 30 minutes later and defeated them 6-2 in the championship game. This is a great group of kids with a tremendous coaching staff: They are hardly a team that has "fallen quickly". They certainly are not interested in listening to your nonsense......really. Find something else to occupy your time.

Express north is a very weak team. Blast should have beaten them by 10+ goals, not lose to them. Blast is not the team it was 2 years ago. It’s not the team it was last year (and they were mediocre last year).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time a team takes the field with their starting goalie on the sideline in a cast, the results of the games are certainly up in the air. This team played their hearts out including the back up goalie who made some great saves. After losing to Express North 6-5 in the first game, they stormed back 30 minutes later and defeated them 6-2 in the championship game. This is a great group of kids with a tremendous coaching staff: They are hardly a team that has "fallen quickly". They certainly are not interested in listening to your nonsense......really. Find something else to occupy your time.

Express north is a very weak team. Blast should have beaten them by 10+ goals, not lose to them. Blast is not the team it was 2 years ago. It’s not the team it was last year (and they were mediocre last year).

Wow! Parents on one express team insulting another express team. Talk about a scumbag move!
By the way, Express North played in Halloween Havoc and won their first 2 games which included the one against Igloo. And the only one they lost was against Channy. And Channy did not beat them by 10+ goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time a team takes the field with their starting goalie on the sideline in a cast, the results of the games are certainly up in the air. This team played their hearts out including the back up goalie who made some great saves. After losing to Express North 6-5 in the first game, they stormed back 30 minutes later and defeated them 6-2 in the championship game. This is a great group of kids with a tremendous coaching staff: They are hardly a team that has "fallen quickly". They certainly are not interested in listening to your nonsense......really. Find something else to occupy your time.

Express north is a very weak team. Blast should have beaten them by 10+ goals, not lose to them. Blast is not the team it was 2 years ago. It’s not the team it was last year (and they were mediocre last year).

Not a 91parent. But why state any of that? The team is obviously trying to avoid the drama and get some confidence built and let the kids get the know the new coaches and vice versa. Why call 10 year olds "very weak" and mediocre"

Blast folks. Shhhhhhh!

Please stop, let's let the kids speak for themselves through their play. It's a long year and the kids will be right there when all is said and done.

Let the haters hate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time a team takes the field with their starting goalie on the sideline in a cast, the results of the games are certainly up in the air. This team played their hearts out including the back up goalie who made some great saves. After losing to Express North 6-5 in the first game, they stormed back 30 minutes later and defeated them 6-2 in the championship game. This is a great group of kids with a tremendous coaching staff: They are hardly a team that has "fallen quickly". They certainly are not interested in listening to your nonsense......really. Find something else to occupy your time.

Lets be honest this is the last year of that experiment so make up another excuse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time a team takes the field with their starting goalie on the sideline in a cast, the results of the games are certainly up in the air. This team played their hearts out including the back up goalie who made some great saves. After losing to Express North 6-5 in the first game, they stormed back 30 minutes later and defeated them 6-2 in the championship game. This is a great group of kids with a tremendous coaching staff: They are hardly a team that has "fallen quickly". They certainly are not interested in listening to your nonsense......really. Find something else to occupy your time.

Lets be honest this is the last year of that experiment so make up another excuse

I didn't see a single excuse in that post

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time a team takes the field with their starting goalie on the sideline in a cast, the results of the games are certainly up in the air. This team played their hearts out including the back up goalie who made some great saves. After losing to Express North 6-5 in the first game, they stormed back 30 minutes later and defeated them 6-2 in the championship game. This is a great group of kids with a tremendous coaching staff: They are hardly a team that has "fallen quickly". They certainly are not interested in listening to your nonsense......really. Find something else to occupy your time.

Lets be honest this is the last year of that experiment so make up another excuse

Doubtful with the recruiting age being pushed back there is no reason to change. She can go to a few prospect days at whichever schools she wants to go to. Wishful thinking on your part.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

What about 24 Cyclone???

Can we please stop with the Express North nonsense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

Mixed nuts is not that good. You only play in B- tourneys and the Blatant was even worse. The only team you really blew out there was Mamas boys. If you were ever in an A tournament you would fall apart because your not a coach. If you were able to play any of the top 5s full rosters you wouldn’t win. You’d be a good team but wouldn’t be close to the top. That’s was not meant to insult you. I am sure your a good guy but your team has no cohesiveness and wouldn’t be able to compete with the top teams.

Have you played them yet?

They are a good team see. Then play. Not a top team. Just a really good b+_A team. Not competition for geese

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are a good team see. Then play. Not a top team. Just a really good b+_A team. Not competition for geese

Yes, Geese are busy struggling to beat the Ducks and getting shut out of their own tournament. Don't worry, your B team made the championship appearance for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are a good team see. Then play. Not a top team. Just a really good b+_A team. Not competition for geese

Is this English??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

Mixed nuts is not that good. You only play in B- tourneys and the Blatant was even worse. The only team you really blew out there was Mamas boys. If you were ever in an A tournament you would fall apart because your not a coach. If you were able to play any of the top 5s full rosters you wouldn’t win. You’d be a good team but wouldn’t be close to the top. That’s was not meant to insult you. I am sure your a good guy but your team has no cohesiveness and wouldn’t be able to compete with the top teams.

Tell that to Channy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

What about 24 Cyclone???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

What about 24 Cyclone???

O’Reilly will get there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

Mixed nuts is not that good. You only play in B- tourneys and the Blatant was even worse. The only team you really blew out there was Mamas boys. If you were ever in an A tournament you would fall apart because your not a coach. If you were able to play any of the top 5s full rosters you wouldn’t win. You’d be a good team but wouldn’t be close to the top. That’s was not meant to insult you. I am sure your a good guy but your team has no cohesiveness and wouldn’t be able to compete with the top teams.

Tell that to Channy

Tell what to Channy? That he’s not a good coach and his kids have no cohesiveness? Are you for real? You may not like the way Channy runs his program, and they may bend the rules, but he’s still a good coach and his kids are always prepared and play extremely well together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

Mixed nuts is not that good. You only play in B- tourneys and the Blatant was even worse. The only team you really blew out there was Mamas boys. If you were ever in an A tournament you would fall apart because your not a coach. If you were able to play any of the top 5s full rosters you wouldn’t win. You’d be a good team but wouldn’t be close to the top. That’s was not meant to insult you. I am sure your a good guy but your team has no cohesiveness and wouldn’t be able to compete with the top teams.

Tell that to Channy

he must be referring to a fluke win over a year ago. that's why they'll never play again. they got a signature win lol. why not save a bunch of money and just play together on a full time basis. seriously, why play pick up. sounds like the club needs these players, more the players need the club.

Channy lost to the nuts... he got beat by daddy coaches. That makes him overrated.

I

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings going into 17-18

1 Mixed Nuts
2 Geese
3 Channy
4 Blast
5 ?

w

Chaney
Geese
Express North
Ducks
Blast/Igloo
Stop with the nuts

Anyway...
Mixed nuts
Channy
Blast
Geese
Express north
Ducks
Igloo

Mixed nuts is not that good. You only play in B- tourneys and the Blatant was even worse. The only team you really blew out there was Mamas boys. If you were ever in an A tournament you would fall apart because your not a coach. If you were able to play any of the top 5s full rosters you wouldn’t win. You’d be a good team but wouldn’t be close to the top. That’s was not meant to insult you. I am sure your a good guy but your team has no cohesiveness and wouldn’t be able to compete with the top teams.

Tell that to Channy

Tell what to Channy? That he’s not a good coach and his kids have no cohesiveness? Are you for real? You may not like the way Channy runs his program, and they may bend the rules, but he’s still a good coach and his kids are always prepared and play extremely well together.

I'm not a fan of the Nuts, but they did beat Channy, no? Also, thank you for admitting that you know he is a cheater. Being that you know this, maybe you should just stop posting.

You play better when you are OLDER! Cheating, Cheaters!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Channy lost to the nuts... he got beat by daddy coaches. That makes him overrated.

Channy did lose anything. It was two teams of 9 year olds that played over a year ago that probably do even recall the details as much as the parents.

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

Any other good fall tournaments coming up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Are you really discussing who won a game between 9 year olds to determine the best team of 5th graders? You really need help. As far as I see it it’s the first time since they started in K that we have 5-6 competitive teams with each other. You should all be happy about it. Whether people want to believe it or not, the studs in 3-4th grade will not be the studs in middle or Hs. The only ones that think that are the only ones that don’t have older kids. The true studs will come from nowhere. Who wants one dominant team in 5th grade anyway? Be grateful there’s finally some fun lax to watch and let the 10 year olds enjoy playing a game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Are you really discussing who won a game between 9 year olds to determine the best team of 5th graders? You really need help. As far as I see it it’s the first time since they started in K that we have 5-6 competitive teams with each other. You should all be happy about it. Whether people want to believe it or not, the studs in 3-4th grade will not be the studs in middle or Hs. The only ones that think that are the only ones that don’t have older kids. The true studs will come from nowhere. Who wants one dominant team in 5th grade anyway? Be grateful there’s finally some fun lax to watch and let the 10 year olds enjoy playing a game!

Channy's team was 10/11 year olds based on the stories I'm hearing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Are you really discussing who won a game between 9 year olds to determine the best team of 5th graders? You really need help. As far as I see it it’s the first time since they started in K that we have 5-6 competitive teams with each other. You should all be happy about it. Whether people want to believe it or not, the studs in 3-4th grade will not be the studs in middle or Hs. The only ones that think that are the only ones that don’t have older kids. The true studs will come from nowhere. Who wants one dominant team in 5th grade anyway? Be grateful there’s finally some fun lax to watch and let the 10 year olds enjoy playing a game!

Channy's team was 10/11 year olds based on the stories I'm hearing.

When are the owner's of these clubs going man up and make age based teams?They will still make the same money!!! The parents will stop the name calling and accusing the coaches of cheating when they win. The parents would respect the quality of good play and everyone would get along much better on the sidelines knowing that it is a fair playing field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Are you really discussing who won a game between 9 year olds to determine the best team of 5th graders? You really need help. As far as I see it it’s the first time since they started in K that we have 5-6 competitive teams with each other. You should all be happy about it. Whether people want to believe it or not, the studs in 3-4th grade will not be the studs in middle or Hs. The only ones that think that are the only ones that don’t have older kids. The true studs will come from nowhere. Who wants one dominant team in 5th grade anyway? Be grateful there’s finally some fun lax to watch and let the 10 year olds enjoy playing a game!

Channy's team was 10/11 year olds based on the stories I'm hearing.

When are the owner's of these clubs going man up and make age based teams?They will still make the same money!!! The parents will stop the name calling and accusing the coaches of cheating when they win. The parents would respect the quality of good play and everyone would get along much better on the sidelines knowing that it is a fair playing field.

When the NCAA drops intercollegiate lacrosse and college coaches no longer want to recruit based on graduation year and see 2019's play 2019's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Are you really discussing who won a game between 9 year olds to determine the best team of 5th graders? You really need help. As far as I see it it’s the first time since they started in K that we have 5-6 competitive teams with each other. You should all be happy about it. Whether people want to believe it or not, the studs in 3-4th grade will not be the studs in middle or Hs. The only ones that think that are the only ones that don’t have older kids. The true studs will come from nowhere. Who wants one dominant team in 5th grade anyway? Be grateful there’s finally some fun lax to watch and let the 10 year olds enjoy playing a game!

Channy's team was 10/11 year olds based on the stories I'm hearing.

When are the owner's of these clubs going man up and make age based teams?They will still make the same money!!! The parents will stop the name calling and accusing the coaches of cheating when they win. The parents would respect the quality of good play and everyone would get along much better on the sidelines knowing that it is a fair playing field.

There is a 2024 on the Channy 2025 Team. Young or not, that is cheating. CHEATING, CHEATERS!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Are you really discussing who won a game between 9 year olds to determine the best team of 5th graders? You really need help. As far as I see it it’s the first time since they started in K that we have 5-6 competitive teams with each other. You should all be happy about it. Whether people want to believe it or not, the studs in 3-4th grade will not be the studs in middle or Hs. The only ones that think that are the only ones that don’t have older kids. The true studs will come from nowhere. Who wants one dominant team in 5th grade anyway? Be grateful there’s finally some fun lax to watch and let the 10 year olds enjoy playing a game!

Channy's team was 10/11 year olds based on the stories I'm hearing.

When are the owner's of these clubs going man up and make age based teams?They will still make the same money!!! The parents will stop the name calling and accusing the coaches of cheating when they win. The parents would respect the quality of good play and everyone would get along much better on the sidelines knowing that it is a fair playing field.

There is a 2024 on the Channy 2025 Team. Young or not, that is cheating. CHEATING, CHEATERS!!!!

Nuts beat Express in the 2016 summer. It was their first outdoor tournament. It was two seasons ago. Let it go. I think it was the same season that Blast lost to Garden City two times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Are you really discussing who won a game between 9 year olds to determine the best team of 5th graders? You really need help. As far as I see it it’s the first time since they started in K that we have 5-6 competitive teams with each other. You should all be happy about it. Whether people want to believe it or not, the studs in 3-4th grade will not be the studs in middle or Hs. The only ones that think that are the only ones that don’t have older kids. The true studs will come from nowhere. Who wants one dominant team in 5th grade anyway? Be grateful there’s finally some fun lax to watch and let the 10 year olds enjoy playing a game!

Channy's team was 10/11 year olds based on the stories I'm hearing.

When are the owner's of these clubs going man up and make age based teams?They will still make the same money!!! The parents will stop the name calling and accusing the coaches of cheating when they win. The parents would respect the quality of good play and everyone would get along much better on the sidelines knowing that it is a fair playing field.

When the NCAA drops intercollegiate lacrosse and college coaches no longer want to recruit based on graduation year and see 2019's play 2019's.

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What tournament did the nuts beat channy?

It was in April/May of 2017.

Are you really discussing who won a game between 9 year olds to determine the best team of 5th graders? You really need help. As far as I see it it’s the first time since they started in K that we have 5-6 competitive teams with each other. You should all be happy about it. Whether people want to believe it or not, the studs in 3-4th grade will not be the studs in middle or Hs. The only ones that think that are the only ones that don’t have older kids. The true studs will come from nowhere. Who wants one dominant team in 5th grade anyway? Be grateful there’s finally some fun lax to watch and let the 10 year olds enjoy playing a game!

When are the owner's of these clubs going man up and make age based teams?They will still make the same money!!! The parents will stop the name calling and accusing the coaches of cheating when they win. The parents would respect the quality of good play and everyone would get along much better on the sidelines knowing that it is a fair playing field.

When the NCAA drops intercollegiate lacrosse and college coaches no longer want to recruit based on graduation year and see 2019's play 2019's.

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

Coach Pietramala, give me grace to accept with serenity
the age based system that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things
which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish
the one from the other.
Living one game at a time,
Enjoying one BOTC post at a time,
Accepting club lacrosse as a pathway to full scholarship,
Taking, as Chanichuck did,
This sinful age based travisty as it is,
Not as Spillina would have it,
Trusting that You will make all things right,
If I surrender to Your age based nonsense,
So that I may be reasonably happy in my sons triumphs,
And supremely happy with all your sons defeats forever in the next.
Amen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

You've made no sense in your attempts to justify this. Whether or not its lacrosse or football (non-revenue versus revenue), all student athletes being recruited are almost exclusively high schoolers. A college coach needs to know and recruit accordingly based upon that SA's graduation date. For some reason, you are saying that college lacrosse coaches are either: 1. dumb, or 2. too lazy to be able to do what every other sports' coaches have to do, revenue sport or not, which is to parse through players and know who is graduating when, and how to recruit any prospective SA respectively. Further, an age-based system is easier to recruit against than HS recruiting as a majority of athletes at any age are predominantly still in the proper/expected grade for their age, which also begs the question as to why any system should be catering to the minority versus the majority. The bigger point is other than being a sport that anyone here on BOTC already knows - that lax is great sport to plan and watch, the sport isn't special in any OTHER way, so there is still no argument that it should behave differently, and the argument that "it is what is is" is NOT an even an argument!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

You've made no sense in your attempts to justify this. Whether or not its lacrosse or football (non-revenue versus revenue), all student athletes being recruited are almost exclusively high schoolers. A college coach needs to know and recruit accordingly based upon that SA's graduation date. For some reason, you are saying that college lacrosse coaches are either: 1. dumb, or 2. too lazy to be able to do what every other sports' coaches have to do, revenue sport or not, which is to parse through players and know who is graduating when, and how to recruit any prospective SA respectively. Further, an age-based system is easier to recruit against than HS recruiting as a majority of athletes at any age are predominantly still in the proper/expected grade for their age, which also begs the question as to why any system should be catering to the minority versus the majority. The bigger point is other than being a sport that anyone here on BOTC already knows - that lax is great sport to plan and watch, the sport isn't special in any OTHER way, so there is still no argument that it should behave differently, and the argument that "it is what is is" is NOT an even an argument!

Did you even read his post at all? It is completely logical, clear and accurate. Yours, on the other hand, was borderline unreadable. I suggest you’ve read it again. Or better yet, have someone read it to you... slowly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

There is so much stupid in this post I can't possibly rebut it all, but I will try. Firstly, the fact that youth hockey is age based has absolutely nothing to do with the NHL draft being age-based (and btw, the NHL draft uses a Sept 15-Sept 14 year, while youth hockey uses a January 1-Dec 31 year, so it doesn't even match - oh my god, this must confuse the [lacrosse] out of NHL scouts). If the NHL draft switched to grade based tomorrow, youth hockey would not follow suit. Second, in the US, D1 colleges and the NHL draft acquire players through either the junior system, the US National team program, Prep schools, or high end high schools (MN only, typically). None of these are age based in the way a lacrosse parent would understand it. The junior system is for kids 16-21 competing against each other, while prep and high schools are grade based. Only the USNDT is really age based. What this means is that for the real high end player, hockey stops being truly age based at age 16. But its age based before 16. There is no reason why travel lacrosse can't do the same. Age based up to, and through, age 15. Than the best of the best can move on to grade based, recruiting-emphasized teams/programs. The rest can stay age based.

But to say the above in less words - you would have to be an absolute moron to think that elementary/middle school kids can't play age based because it will be grade based when they are grown men in college. I guarantee the college coaches don't give a s--t whether or not 10 year olds are grouped by age or grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

There is so much stupid in this post I can't possibly rebut it all, but I will try. Firstly, the fact that youth hockey is age based has absolutely nothing to do with the NHL draft being age-based (and btw, the NHL draft uses a Sept 15-Sept 14 year, while youth hockey uses a January 1-Dec 31 year, so it doesn't even match - oh my god, this must confuse the [lacrosse] out of NHL scouts). If the NHL draft switched to grade based tomorrow, youth hockey would not follow suit. Second, in the US, D1 colleges and the NHL draft acquire players through either the junior system, the US National team program, Prep schools, or high end high schools (MN only, typically). None of these are age based in the way a lacrosse parent would understand it. The junior system is for kids 16-21 competing against each other, while prep and high schools are grade based. Only the USNDT is really age based. What this means is that for the real high end player, hockey stops being truly age based at age 16. But its age based before 16. There is no reason why travel lacrosse can't do the same. Age based up to, and through, age 15. Than the best of the best can move on to grade based, recruiting-emphasized teams/programs. The rest can stay age based.

But to say the above in less words - you would have to be an absolute moron to think that elementary/middle school kids can't play age based because it will be grade based when they are grown men in college. I guarantee the college coaches don't give a s--t whether or not 10 year olds are grouped by age or grade.

Any recruiting-based argument is about as dumb as the status quo argument.

Mixed Nuts beat them last year at Spring Lax Jam in 2017. The Nuts Franchise wasnt started until winter 2017. Just face it they got beat by a pick up team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

There is so much stupid in this post I can't possibly rebut it all, but I will try. Firstly, the fact that youth hockey is age based has absolutely nothing to do with the NHL draft being age-based (and btw, the NHL draft uses a Sept 15-Sept 14 year, while youth hockey uses a January 1-Dec 31 year, so it doesn't even match - oh my god, this must confuse the [lacrosse] out of NHL scouts). If the NHL draft switched to grade based tomorrow, youth hockey would not follow suit. Second, in the US, D1 colleges and the NHL draft acquire players through either the junior system, the US National team program, Prep schools, or high end high schools (MN only, typically). None of these are age based in the way a lacrosse parent would understand it. The junior system is for kids 16-21 competing against each other, while prep and high schools are grade based. Only the USNDT is really age based. What this means is that for the real high end player, hockey stops being truly age based at age 16. But its age based before 16. There is no reason why travel lacrosse can't do the same. Age based up to, and through, age 15. Than the best of the best can move on to grade based, recruiting-emphasized teams/programs. The rest can stay age based.

But to say the above in less words - you would have to be an absolute moron to think that elementary/middle school kids can't play age based because it will be grade based when they are grown men in college. I guarantee the college coaches don't give a s--t whether or not 10 year olds are grouped by age or grade.

Any recruiting-based argument is about as dumb as the status quo argument.

Which is exactly why is should be based on what is the best for the kids. And age-based is undeniably the best system for the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

There is so much stupid in this post I can't possibly rebut it all, but I will try. Firstly, the fact that youth hockey is age based has absolutely nothing to do with the NHL draft being age-based (and btw, the NHL draft uses a Sept 15-Sept 14 year, while youth hockey uses a January 1-Dec 31 year, so it doesn't even match - oh my god, this must confuse the [lacrosse] out of NHL scouts). If the NHL draft switched to grade based tomorrow, youth hockey would not follow suit. Second, in the US, D1 colleges and the NHL draft acquire players through either the junior system, the US National team program, Prep schools, or high end high schools (MN only, typically). None of these are age based in the way a lacrosse parent would understand it. The junior system is for kids 16-21 competing against each other, while prep and high schools are grade based. Only the USNDT is really age based. What this means is that for the real high end player, hockey stops being truly age based at age 16. But its age based before 16. There is no reason why travel lacrosse can't do the same. Age based up to, and through, age 15. Than the best of the best can move on to grade based, recruiting-emphasized teams/programs. The rest can stay age based.

But to say the above in less words - you would have to be an absolute moron to think that elementary/middle school kids can't play age based because it will be grade based when they are grown men in college. I guarantee the college coaches don't give a s--t whether or not 10 year olds are grouped by age or grade.

Any recruiting-based argument is about as dumb as the status quo argument.

Which is exactly why is should be based on what is the best for the kids. And age-based is undeniably the best system for the kids.

Exactly.

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

Which Express North Team is playing the Roar Rumble tourney on LI? Morg...or Bart...?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

Well better grab that coffee, Mixed Nuts is here to stay

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

They should play up a year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

Well grab your coffee, going to a long one. Mixed Nuts here to stay!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

They should play up a year

They afraid too, will not be able to be up on the weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

They are All Stars!!! You betcha' !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

They should play up a year

Play Channy’s team. Same thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

They are All Stars!!! You betcha' !!!

Just out of curiosity, are you the fat coach who’s shirts are always too small and sounds like High Pitch Eric from the Howard Stern Show? Or are you the grumpy bald coach who just yells for everyone to pass to his kid the entire game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

You've made no sense in your attempts to justify this. Whether or not its lacrosse or football (non-revenue versus revenue), all student athletes being recruited are almost exclusively high schoolers. A college coach needs to know and recruit accordingly based upon that SA's graduation date. For some reason, you are saying that college lacrosse coaches are either: 1. dumb, or 2. too lazy to be able to do what every other sports' coaches have to do, revenue sport or not, which is to parse through players and know who is graduating when, and how to recruit any prospective SA respectively. Further, an age-based system is easier to recruit against than HS recruiting as a majority of athletes at any age are predominantly still in the proper/expected grade for their age, which also begs the question as to why any system should be catering to the minority versus the majority. The bigger point is other than being a sport that anyone here on BOTC already knows - that lax is great sport to plan and watch, the sport isn't special in any OTHER way, so there is still no argument that it should behave differently, and the argument that "it is what is is" is NOT an even an argument!

As you are a parent of a 5th grader I can understand your naivety and your speaking from the heart when you, unfortunately have no idea what you are talking about. I believe it was the overrated Bob Dylan who said "If your child is in 5th grade and you believe in age based your are an idealist, but if you are a parent of a high school student and you believe in age based you are a fool" Stop worrying about who is beating your kid and worry about making him better...

IMHO proponents for age based teams are only concerned with championship t-shirts and pictures on the web site, people who understand that grade based is all about your kid improving, winning at the HS level and playing in college. Ask your self, "do I want my son to be the best he can be or do I want him to win some meaningless tournament in 5th grade" ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

You've made no sense in your attempts to justify this. Whether or not its lacrosse or football (non-revenue versus revenue), all student athletes being recruited are almost exclusively high schoolers. A college coach needs to know and recruit accordingly based upon that SA's graduation date. For some reason, you are saying that college lacrosse coaches are either: 1. dumb, or 2. too lazy to be able to do what every other sports' coaches have to do, revenue sport or not, which is to parse through players and know who is graduating when, and how to recruit any prospective SA respectively. Further, an age-based system is easier to recruit against than HS recruiting as a majority of athletes at any age are predominantly still in the proper/expected grade for their age, which also begs the question as to why any system should be catering to the minority versus the majority. The bigger point is other than being a sport that anyone here on BOTC already knows - that lax is great sport to plan and watch, the sport isn't special in any OTHER way, so there is still no argument that it should behave differently, and the argument that "it is what is is" is NOT an even an argument!

As you are a parent of a 5th grader I can understand your naivety and your speaking from the heart when you, unfortunately have no idea what you are talking about. I believe it was the overrated Bob Dylan who said "If your child is in 5th grade and you believe in age based your are an idealist, but if you are a parent of a high school student and you believe in age based you are a fool" Stop worrying about who is beating your kid and worry about making him better...

The presumptions fly hot and heavy on BOTC - in that I am also a parent of HS and post HS aged boys, there is no naivete on my part - in fact, I probably more to draw upon than you do considering my involvement in sports, youth and otherwise. I couldn't care less whether my son's win anything - they win some, they lose some. Age-based play is what is best for the sport, but you still don't get that there is NO legitimate argument for grade-based play below HS AND that there are plenty of people who devote great amounts of time and effort to improve something beyond self interest - you wouldn't know anything about that since you only view things through the prism of what's in it for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

They are All Stars!!! You betcha' !!!

Just out of curiosity, are you the fat coach who’s shirts are always too small and sounds like High Pitch Eric from the Howard Stern Show? Or are you the grumpy bald coach who just yells for everyone to pass to his kid the entire game?

I'm the one who is snickering at you (and your son) as we coast to another 'ship. I've got some shirts for you though. Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tired of this mix nuts team. Any team would be able to beat the top travel teams if they took the some of the best kids from other teams. It's essentially a all star team. Mix nuts is made up of 91, ducks and geese. You should beat any travel team. Shut up already!!!!

They are All Stars!!! You betcha' !!!

Just out of curiosity, are you the fat coach who’s shirts are always too small and sounds like High Pitch Eric from the Howard Stern Show? Or are you the grumpy bald coach who just yells for everyone to pass to his kid the entire game?

I'm the one who is snickering at you (and your son) as we coast to another 'ship. I've got some shirts for you though. Loser.

Solid retort.

The Mustang Classic schedule has been released

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Mustang Classic schedule has been released

Oh boy looks like a battle of the Titans!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

You've made no sense in your attempts to justify this. Whether or not its lacrosse or football (non-revenue versus revenue), all student athletes being recruited are almost exclusively high schoolers. A college coach needs to know and recruit accordingly based upon that SA's graduation date. For some reason, you are saying that college lacrosse coaches are either: 1. dumb, or 2. too lazy to be able to do what every other sports' coaches have to do, revenue sport or not, which is to parse through players and know who is graduating when, and how to recruit any prospective SA respectively. Further, an age-based system is easier to recruit against than HS recruiting as a majority of athletes at any age are predominantly still in the proper/expected grade for their age, which also begs the question as to why any system should be catering to the minority versus the majority. The bigger point is other than being a sport that anyone here on BOTC already knows - that lax is great sport to plan and watch, the sport isn't special in any OTHER way, so there is still no argument that it should behave differently, and the argument that "it is what is is" is NOT an even an argument!

As you are a parent of a 5th grader I can understand your naivety and your speaking from the heart when you, unfortunately have no idea what you are talking about. I believe it was the overrated Bob Dylan who said "If your child is in 5th grade and you believe in age based your are an idealist, but if you are a parent of a high school student and you believe in age based you are a fool" Stop worrying about who is beating your kid and worry about making him better...

The presumptions fly hot and heavy on BOTC - in that I am also a parent of HS and post HS aged boys, there is no naivete on my part - in fact, I probably more to draw upon than you do considering my involvement in sports, youth and otherwise. I couldn't care less whether my son's win anything - they win some, they lose some. Age-based play is what is best for the sport, but you still don't get that there is NO legitimate argument for grade-based play below HS AND that there are plenty of people who devote great amounts of time and effort to improve something beyond self interest - you wouldn't know anything about that since you only view things through the prism of what's in it for you.

LOL - FYI some people just like stirring the pot and could really care less about any of this. I am entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours, but the difference is that it seems that people that make the age based argument do so as if it is fact that it is better for everyone and dismiss the grade based people that are of the opinion there way is better.

In utopia, an aged based system until HS would probably be a good thing but at some point some kids would age out in 8th grade and have no place to play for that one year (they are not in HS so they could not play on their HS summer team and too old for age based).

I can only speak from personal experience and I think it was a huge benefit for my son (who was small and young for his grade) to play against bigger, stronger and older kids that were in his grade because starting in 7th grade that is who he played with and against and by the time he was in 9th grade when going to recruiting tournaments and showcases as he was prepared to compete against kids in his grade for college recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Mustang Classic schedule has been released

Gluten and Nut free.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As has been pointed out in previous posts, that is non starter as an argument - EVERY other NCAA sport has no issue recruiting student athletes that play age-based. Please try again!

I am not an expert on all sports and all recruiting processes but I am pretty well versed on lacrosse recruiting - I am not aware of another sport that the school season is practically meaningless and most to all of the recruiting is done through summer teams/ tournaments and showcases ALL of which are done by graduating class not birth year. If you want to look at Hockey that is similar as it is also a non revenue sport. From the get go youth hockey is age based not graduating year based and it works for them because the golden ring in hockey is the NHL draft and that is age based. For lacrosse the ultimate prize is a recruited spot on a college team and that was, is and always will be grade based, it is how the college coaches like it and it is how it is always going to be.

There is so much stupid in this post I can't possibly rebut it all, but I will try. Firstly, the fact that youth hockey is age based has absolutely nothing to do with the NHL draft being age-based (and btw, the NHL draft uses a Sept 15-Sept 14 year, while youth hockey uses a January 1-Dec 31 year, so it doesn't even match - oh my god, this must confuse the [lacrosse] out of NHL scouts). If the NHL draft switched to grade based tomorrow, youth hockey would not follow suit. Second, in the US, D1 colleges and the NHL draft acquire players through either the junior system, the US National team program, Prep schools, or high end high schools (MN only, typically). None of these are age based in the way a lacrosse parent would understand it. The junior system is for kids 16-21 competing against each other, while prep and high schools are grade based. Only the USNDT is really age based. What this means is that for the real high end player, hockey stops being truly age based at age 16. But its age based before 16. There is no reason why travel lacrosse can't do the same. Age based up to, and through, age 15. Than the best of the best can move on to grade based, recruiting-emphasized teams/programs. The rest can stay age based.

But to say the above in less words - you would have to be an absolute moron to think that elementary/middle school kids can't play age based because it will be grade based when they are grown men in college. I guarantee the college coaches don't give a s--t whether or not 10 year olds are grouped by age or grade.

Any recruiting-based argument is about as dumb as the status quo argument.

As this sport is growing the clubs have become so consumed with winning and driving up registrations. The more you win, the more kids want to play for you and the more parents will want to pay to be on those winning clubs . We all know the cycle. These clubs, they are not just overlooking but neglecting the Integrity that is most important in youth sports. There must be a regulatory age requirement put in place immediately. This should be enforced at all tournaments and with all clubs. It has become an epidemic. Every tournament and every game there is a huge percentage of potential injury having older boys playing down with younger aged boys. Regardless of grade!! Where does a concerned parent turn? This is a great sport that my son loves, but it has a huge flaw that EVERY parent speaks of . Something needs to be done. We need Help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

.......neglecting the Integrity that is most important in youth sports. There "must" be a regulatory age requirement put in place "immediately". This should be enforced at all tournaments and with all clubs. It has become an "epidemic". Every tournament and every game there is a huge percentage of potential injury having older boys playing down with younger aged boys. Regardless of grade!! Where does a concerned parent turn? This is a great sport that my son loves, but it has a huge flaw that "EVERY" parent speaks of . Something "needs" to be done. We need Help.

Even snowflakes like me read this post and cringed - you have an opinion, it is not a fact or crorrect, nor does it make other peoples opinion wrong, it is just your opinion.

"Integrity"? there is more integrity in politics than youth sports, particularly for profit club teams.

"Epidemic" ? really?

"EVERY" Parent, ? well not every parent, not me.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families of children forced to play a game with other children in their own grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

.......neglecting the Integrity that is most important in youth sports. There "must" be a regulatory age requirement put in place "immediately". This should be enforced at all tournaments and with all clubs. It has become an "epidemic". Every tournament and every game there is a huge percentage of potential injury having older boys playing down with younger aged boys. Regardless of grade!! Where does a concerned parent turn? This is a great sport that my son loves, but it has a huge flaw that "EVERY" parent speaks of . Something "needs" to be done. We need Help.

Even snowflakes like me read this post and cringed - you have an opinion, it is not a fact or crorrect, nor does it make other peoples opinion wrong, it is just your opinion.

"Integrity"? there is more integrity in politics than youth sports, particularly for profit club teams.

"Epidemic" ? really?

"EVERY" Parent, ? well not every parent, not me.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families of children forced to play a game with other children in their own grade.

Sounds like the proud pappa of a big older holdback Rabil. Yes, You are correct the parents that held back there kids for sports would not be on board with the ethically sound family's . Must be hard going through life thinking you know it all? Please your prayers should stay with you, your kids going to need them.

I agree, age is way to go. There is nothing more fair than kids the same age playing. I still can't understand how people argue this. Kids need to be held back for social, academic, move to a new district,etc. I get it, parents should do what's best for their child. I agree 100 percent. However that shouldn't allow that child to have a youth sports advantage. This isn't high school. Playing kids the same age on the youth level is as fair as fair can be. I wouldn't even want my 10 year old playing kids that are 8 or 9, what good is that. If he played great I'd say great game, but I'd say to myself , these kids are much younger than my son, he is supposed to dominate these kids. It just wouldn't feel right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

.......neglecting the Integrity that is most important in youth sports. There "must" be a regulatory age requirement put in place "immediately". This should be enforced at all tournaments and with all clubs. It has become an "epidemic". Every tournament and every game there is a huge percentage of potential injury having older boys playing down with younger aged boys. Regardless of grade!! Where does a concerned parent turn? This is a great sport that my son loves, but it has a huge flaw that "EVERY" parent speaks of . Something "needs" to be done. We need Help.

Even snowflakes like me read this post and cringed - you have an opinion, it is not a fact or crorrect, nor does it make other peoples opinion wrong, it is just your opinion.

"Integrity"? there is more integrity in politics than youth sports, particularly for profit club teams.

"Epidemic" ? really?

"EVERY" Parent, ? well not every parent, not me.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families of children forced to play a game with other children in their own grade.

Sounds like the proud pappa of a big older holdback Rabil. Yes, You are correct the parents that held back there kids for sports would not be on board with the ethically sound family's . Must be hard going through life thinking you know it all? Please your prayers should stay with you, your kids going to need them.

Actually - He is young and small for his grade and holding him back or playing age based would have benefited him in the short term, I believe playing against kids in his grade or a grade older is why is has been able to succeed at "the next level"

So for all of you Don Quixote's out there tilting at windmills your adversaries are incorrectly perceived, your fight is unfounded and unwinnable so rather than rant anonymously on line I suggest you deal with the fact that youth club lacrosse was, is and for the near future going to be grade based so figure out how best to deal with it but always keep dreaming the impossible dream as you try and beat that unbeatable foe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Mustang Classic schedule has been released

Gluten and Nut free.

Geese and Channy battling again in DE. These clubs seem to be plying every weekend against the top competition available. Besides losing to Channys little cousin, Express North, what is Blast doing?

It’s was a rhetorical question, Blastards. I know “working their butts off at seriously great practices with the greatest coaches. We don’t need tournaments in the fall. We’re working hard!” And all that noise. You’re avoiding tournaments where any good teams are playing (and still losing) because you’re a sinking shop with transient coaches. No one sticks around because you’re crazy.

You mean the 2025 Geese and the 2024/2025 Express Channy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Mustang Classic schedule has been released

Gluten and Nut free.

Geese and Channy battling again in DE. These clubs seem to be plying every weekend against the top competition available. Besides losing to Channys little cousin, Express North, what is Blast doing?

It’s was a rhetorical question, Blastards. I know “working their butts off at seriously great practices with the greatest coaches. We don’t need tournaments in the fall. We’re working hard!” And all that noise. You’re avoiding tournaments where any good teams are playing (and still losing) because you’re a sinking shop with transient coaches. No one sticks around because you’re crazy.

Try plying your version of English on your own sinking shop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

.......neglecting the Integrity that is most important in youth sports. There "must" be a regulatory age requirement put in place "immediately". This should be enforced at all tournaments and with all clubs. It has become an "epidemic". Every tournament and every game there is a huge percentage of potential injury having older boys playing down with younger aged boys. Regardless of grade!! Where does a concerned parent turn? This is a great sport that my son loves, but it has a huge flaw that "EVERY" parent speaks of . Something "needs" to be done. We need Help.

Even snowflakes like me read this post and cringed - you have an opinion, it is not a fact or crorrect, nor does it make other peoples opinion wrong, it is just your opinion.

"Integrity"? there is more integrity in politics than youth sports, particularly for profit club teams.

"Epidemic" ? really?

"EVERY" Parent, ? well not every parent, not me.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families of children forced to play a game with other children in their own grade.

Sounds like the proud pappa of a big older holdback Rabil. Yes, You are correct the parents that held back there kids for sports would not be on board with the ethically sound family's . Must be hard going through life thinking you know it all? Please your prayers should stay with you, your kids going to need them.

Actually - He is young and small for his grade and holding him back or playing age based would have benefited him in the short term, I believe playing against kids in his grade or a grade older is why is has been able to succeed at "the next level"

So for all of you Don Quixote's out there tilting at windmills your adversaries are incorrectly perceived, your fight is unfounded and unwinnable so rather than rant anonymously on line I suggest you deal with the fact that youth club lacrosse was, is and for the near future going to be grade based so figure out how best to deal with it but always keep dreaming the impossible dream as you try and beat that unbeatable foe.

So probably was said by many parents of other sports - how'd that end up going? Why people think that lacrosse is different in that sense than other sports boggles the mind . . .

Nxt in philly started this year with their 2nd graders. All age based. They have also are only offering that same age based bracket in their tournaments. Will continue that format going forward. Doesn’t help the older years but it’s a start

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean the 2025 Geese and the 2024/2025 Express Channy?

Ha! Truth!

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Really what tournament did they play in? What were the scores? Please don't say it was a scrimmage either.

it was a scrimmage

They played well in scrimmages you mean... positive way to finish off Fall ball and get ready for Spring. Ducks will Improve over the winter and will be a competitive team come Spring/ Summertime.. They have some talent on that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Really what tournament did they play in? What were the scores? Please don't say it was a scrimmage either.

You know exactly when, where and what the scores were. Don’t play stupid to come up with an excuse for being on the losing side. Your boys were embarrassed, get used to it because they are turning into you right before your eyes. Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Really what tournament did they play in? What were the scores? Please don't say it was a scrimmage either.

You know exactly when, where and what the scores were. Don’t play stupid to come up with an excuse for being on the losing side. Your boys were embarrassed, get used to it because they are turning into you right before your eyes. Loser.

OK Coach, we got it, the Ducks are the Team to beat. If I were you, I wouldn't put all of my duck eggs in that scrimmage basket.
So let me ask one question though, Should Blast and Geese be embarrassed or should we think that Ducks are impressive?
Seems like you are the loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Really what tournament did they play in? What were the scores? Please don't say it was a scrimmage either.

You know exactly when, where and what the scores were. Don’t play stupid to come up with an excuse for being on the losing side. Your boys were embarrassed, get used to it because they are turning into you right before your eyes. Loser.

Oh yeah you got me, even know I don't have a child on either team I guess I should know what other teams are doing at this age. If this happen over the weekend why you bragging about it now. I get it your part of that joke they call a coaching staff. Congrats you beat teams in a scrimmage, or should I say bench clearing scrimmage. You should post that on your website!! Great job, wish you guys tons of luck in the upcoming season.

the ducks are ready for the nuts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Really what tournament did they play in? What were the scores? Please don't say it was a scrimmage either.

You know exactly when, where and what the scores were. Don’t play stupid to come up with an excuse for being on the losing side. Your boys were embarrassed, get used to it because they are turning into you right before your eyes. Loser.

Oh yeah you got me, even know I don't have a child on either team I guess I should know what other teams are doing at this age. If this happen over the weekend why you bragging about it now. I get it your part of that joke they call a coaching staff. Congrats you beat teams in a scrimmage, or should I say bench clearing scrimmage. You should post that on your website!! Great job, wish you guys tons of luck in the upcoming season.

The poster didn't say they were the best or the team to beat, nor did they say anything bad about those other teams. They just recognized that a group of 10 year olds had a good weekend and beat two of the top teams. They should be congratulated beating them on consecutive days, but you were obviously so upset by it you had ridicule a group of 10 year olds to prop yourself up. Let me say it for them, you guys got manhandled and spanked whether you want to admit it or not. How awesome you losers were just knocked down from your high horse finally. Look on the bright side, you had something to brag about when your kid was a 4th graders, but that was it, he's reached his peak. Now he is going to turn into the short, fat, bald, loser your are. Look in the mirror!!! Freaking karma is great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks are ready for the nuts

Ducks are the best thing to come from 9D1 since crush!! Look out Boys.. Fear the Quack!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Really what tournament did they play in? What were the scores? Please don't say it was a scrimmage either.

You know exactly when, where and what the scores were. Don’t play stupid to come up with an excuse for being on the losing side. Your boys were embarrassed, get used to it because they are turning into you right before your eyes. Loser.

Oh yeah you got me, even know I don't have a child on either team I guess I should know what other teams are doing at this age. If this happen over the weekend why you bragging about it now. I get it your part of that joke they call a coaching staff. Congrats you beat teams in a scrimmage, or should I say bench clearing scrimmage. You should post that on your website!! Great job, wish you guys tons of luck in the upcoming season.

The poster didn't say they were the best or the team to beat, nor did they say anything bad about those other teams. They just recognized that a group of 10 year olds had a good weekend and beat two of the top teams. They should be congratulated beating them on consecutive days, but you were obviously so upset by it you had ridicule a group of 10 year olds to prop yourself up. Let me say it for them, you guys got manhandled and spanked whether you want to admit it or not. How awesome you losers were just knocked down from your high horse finally. Look on the bright side, you had something to brag about when your kid was a 4th graders, but that was it, he's reached his peak. Now he is going to turn into the short, fat, bald, loser your are. Look in the mirror!!! Freaking karma is great.

AMEN Coach, you the man

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Really what tournament did they play in? What were the scores? Please don't say it was a scrimmage either.

You know exactly when, where and what the scores were. Don’t play stupid to come up with an excuse for being on the losing side. Your boys were embarrassed, get used to it because they are turning into you right before your eyes. Loser.

Oh yeah you got me, even know I don't have a child on either team I guess I should know what other teams are doing at this age. If this happen over the weekend why you bragging about it now. I get it your part of that joke they call a coaching staff. Congrats you beat teams in a scrimmage, or should I say bench clearing scrimmage. You should post that on your website!! Great job, wish you guys tons of luck in the upcoming season.

The poster didn't say they were the best or the team to beat, nor did they say anything bad about those other teams. They just recognized that a group of 10 year olds had a good weekend and beat two of the top teams. They should be congratulated beating them on consecutive days, but you were obviously so upset by it you had ridicule a group of 10 year olds to prop yourself up. Let me say it for them, you guys got manhandled and spanked whether you want to admit it or not. How awesome you losers were just knocked down from your high horse finally. Look on the bright side, you had something to brag about when your kid was a 4th graders, but that was it, he's reached his peak. Now he is going to turn into the short, fat, bald, loser your are. Look in the mirror!!! Freaking karma is great.

AMEN Coach, you the man

Freaking KARMA loser!!! Enjoy the B tournaments this Spring, hopefully they don't spank you too!!! hahahahahaha LOSER!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Really what tournament did they play in? What were the scores? Please don't say it was a scrimmage either.

You know exactly when, where and what the scores were. Don’t play stupid to come up with an excuse for being on the losing side. Your boys were embarrassed, get used to it because they are turning into you right before your eyes. Loser.

Oh yeah you got me, even know I don't have a child on either team I guess I should know what other teams are doing at this age. If this happen over the weekend why you bragging about it now. I get it your part of that joke they call a coaching staff. Congrats you beat teams in a scrimmage, or should I say bench clearing scrimmage. You should post that on your website!! Great job, wish you guys tons of luck in the upcoming season.

The poster didn't say they were the best or the team to beat, nor did they say anything bad about those other teams. They just recognized that a group of 10 year olds had a good weekend and beat two of the top teams. They should be congratulated beating them on consecutive days, but you were obviously so upset by it you had ridicule a group of 10 year olds to prop yourself up. Let me say it for them, you guys got manhandled and spanked whether you want to admit it or not. How awesome you losers were just knocked down from your high horse finally. Look on the bright side, you had something to brag about when your kid was a 4th graders, but that was it, he's reached his peak. Now he is going to turn into the short, fat, bald, loser your are. Look in the mirror!!! Freaking karma is great.

Lot of anger there. Have a beer. Life’s too short.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Well if counting scrimmages counts now, Ducks are 2-50 against Blast and Geese. Excluding scrimmages, 0-50, now thats very very impressive. Lets see you beat them in a tourney.

All that money to be part of those big programs and they are losing to B teams like the Ducks, scrimmage or not? Boy oh boy those parents have to be really ticked off. The earth must be off it's axis. How are those boys going to get their scholarships now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the ducks got some wins last weekend over the blast and geese. very impressive

Well if counting scrimmages counts now, Ducks are 2-50 against Blast and Geese. Excluding scrimmages, 0-50, now thats very very impressive. Lets see you beat them in a tourney.

Yep and your 50 were in the past, their 2 are now. Celebrate you accomplishments of the past because that's all you got because you got obliterated by a B team. You were the best in 3rd and 4th grade. YAY!!! Maybe if you pay your program another few thousand they will sign you up for some B tournaments this spring and let you pretend you're great again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All that money to be part of those big programs and they are losing to B teams like the Ducks, scrimmage or not? Boy oh boy those parents have to be really ticked off. The earth must be off it's axis. How are those boys going to get their scholarships now?

We haven't fed them since last weekend. You don't win, you don't eat.

Ducks 2025 are so Legit and all your Little 3rd grade heros are toast!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All that money to be part of those big programs and they are losing to B teams like the Ducks, scrimmage or not? Boy oh boy those parents have to be really ticked off. The earth must be off it's axis. How are those boys going to get their scholarships now?

Not bothered in the least, and last I checked the earth is still spinning and the Ducks are paying as much as Teams with a lot more wins. Clearly, the kids who know the drill from any of these teams act like they've been there before and no one keeps score. But, as usual its the novices and unfortunately their parents that act like they won some sort of Championship. What happened was the boys got their work in, the coaches saw what they needed to see and the real losers got on here to get themselves pumped up. Unfortunately, as it always happens (see the True Blue thread a few pages ago), the Psycho parents are bragging about nonsense and these boys from teams in the second tier will have to pay the price when inevitably order is restored.

Letter to my younger self -

Self - when your kids are in 5th grade, enjoy them, be there for them and always be positive about school, sports, God and country and for god sake do not post on a random anonymous web site about the outcome of a fall lacrosse scrimmage, one day, when it is all over, you will understand what an a$$ you look like.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All that money to be part of those big programs and they are losing to B teams like the Ducks, scrimmage or not? Boy oh boy those parents have to be really ticked off. The earth must be off it's axis. How are those boys going to get their scholarships now?

Not bothered in the least, and last I checked the earth is still spinning and the Ducks are paying as much as Teams with a lot more wins. Clearly, the kids who know the drill from any of these teams act like they've been there before and no one keeps score. But, as usual its the novices and unfortunately their parents that act like they won some sort of Championship. What happened was the boys got their work in, the coaches saw what they needed to see and the real losers got on here to get themselves pumped up. Unfortunately, as it always happens (see the True Blue thread a few pages ago), the Psycho parents are bragging about nonsense and these boys from teams in the second tier will have to pay the price when inevitably order is restored.

First you lost to a B team in Westchester and then a B team on LI. Guess that makes you a C team now. How true, karma is a son of gun. Going to be a looooong winter you sore losing cry baby. WAAAAAAA someone restore order. WAAAA. Junior isn’t the stud I thought he was. WAAAAA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Letter to my younger self -

Self - when your kids are in 5th grade, enjoy them, be there for them and always be positive about school, sports, God and country and for god sake do not post on a random anonymous web site about the outcome of a fall lacrosse scrimmage, one day, when it is all over, you will understand what an a$$ you look like.

Self- I know I have been an a$$ on this site for years bragging about my 2nd through 4th graders T-shirt’s, but now I really look like an a$$ when I have to try to justify why my kid isn’t the stud I thought he was as he gets pummeled by B teams this fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All that money to be part of those big programs and they are losing to B teams like the Ducks, scrimmage or not? Boy oh boy those parents have to be really ticked off. The earth must be off it's axis. How are those boys going to get their scholarships now?

Not bothered in the least, and last I checked the earth is still spinning and the Ducks are paying as much as Teams with a lot more wins. Clearly, the kids who know the drill from any of these teams act like they've been there before and no one keeps score. But, as usual its the novices and unfortunately their parents that act like they won some sort of Championship. What happened was the boys got their work in, the coaches saw what they needed to see and the real losers got on here to get themselves pumped up. Unfortunately, as it always happens (see the True Blue thread a few pages ago), the Psycho parents are bragging about nonsense and these boys from teams in the second tier will have to pay the price when inevitably order is restored.

Guess that makes your team 3rd tier now. LOL Wow that loss must have really stung! That's what you get for bragging, it gets stuffed back in your mouth when you lose, especially to a B team. What happen? Junior couldn't carry the team? Thought he was so great, he should be able to beat a B team all by himself. Better hold on to those t-shirts after all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All that money to be part of those big programs and they are losing to B teams like the Ducks, scrimmage or not? Boy oh boy those parents have to be really ticked off. The earth must be off it's axis. How are those boys going to get their scholarships now?

We haven't fed them since last weekend. You don't win, you don't eat.

That's a great post. :~) At least some of us find humor in all of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All that money to be part of those big programs and they are losing to B teams like the Ducks, scrimmage or not? Boy oh boy those parents have to be really ticked off. The earth must be off it's axis. How are those boys going to get their scholarships now?

We haven't fed them since last weekend. You don't win, you don't eat.

That's a great post. :~) At least some of us find humor in all of this.

You have to laugh at the insanity of it all. SWEEP THE LEG!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Letter to my younger self -

Self - when your kids are in 5th grade, enjoy them, be there for them and always be positive about school, sports, God and country and for god sake do not post on a random anonymous web site about the outcome of a fall lacrosse scrimmage, one day, when it is all over, you will understand what an a$$ you look like.

Self- I know I have been an a$$ on this site for years bragging about my 2nd through 4th graders T-shirt’s, but now I really look like an a$$ when I have to try to justify why my kid isn’t the stud I thought he was as he gets pummeled by B teams this fall.

Send child services to Commack. Several boys being denied dessert.

Let’s see who jumps ship next year and moves their kids to other teams because they aren’t winning enough. You could probably already pinpoint a few. The same ones that were bragging about T-shirt’s, Nuts, and then try to say it’s about the boys when they aren’t winning. So transparent and so hypocritical. Karma really is a son of a gun!

Were you really keeping score at a scrimmage? Too funny!

I bet this is your first kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Were you really keeping score at a scrimmage? Too funny!

I bet this is your first kid.

Haha this stuff is great, you cant make this up.. Got to love the Newbies!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

.......neglecting the Integrity that is most important in youth sports. There "must" be a regulatory age requirement put in place "immediately". This should be enforced at all tournaments and with all clubs. It has become an "epidemic". Every tournament and every game there is a huge percentage of potential injury having older boys playing down with younger aged boys. Regardless of grade!! Where does a concerned parent turn? This is a great sport that my son loves, but it has a huge flaw that "EVERY" parent speaks of . Something "needs" to be done. We need Help.

Even snowflakes like me read this post and cringed - you have an opinion, it is not a fact or crorrect, nor does it make other peoples opinion wrong, it is just your opinion.

"Integrity"? there is more integrity in politics than youth sports, particularly for profit club teams.

"Epidemic" ? really?

"EVERY" Parent, ? well not every parent, not me.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families of children forced to play a game with other children in their own grade.

Sounds like the proud pappa of a big older holdback Rabil. Yes, You are correct the parents that held back there kids for sports would not be on board with the ethically sound family's . Must be hard going through life thinking you know it all? Please your prayers should stay with you, your kids going to need them.

Actually - He is young and small for his grade and holding him back or playing age based would have benefited him in the short term, I believe playing against kids in his grade or a grade older is why is has been able to succeed at "the next level"

So for all of you Don Quixote's out there tilting at windmills your adversaries are incorrectly perceived, your fight is unfounded and unwinnable so rather than rant anonymously on line I suggest you deal with the fact that youth club lacrosse was, is and for the near future going to be grade based so figure out how best to deal with it but always keep dreaming the impossible dream as you try and beat that unbeatable foe.

So probably was said by many parents of other sports - how'd that end up going? Why people think that lacrosse is different in that sense than other sports boggles the mind . . .

Really you a snowflake? I don't think so. Don't be naive and to say its ok to cheat in youth sports because it is happening in politics. And as far as an epidemic! yes, go read the other forums. all posts loaded with dissatisfaction of clubs cheating with AGE discrepancies. It is a disgraceful part of the sport. And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports.Feel the same way. So snowflake, ask yourself this? When your undersized holdback Rabil plays other sports and has to be on age, do you hate the fact he is mediocre?Or do you throw a temper tantrum take your ball and say ok I quit!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

.......neglecting the Integrity that is most important in youth sports. There "must" be a regulatory age requirement put in place "immediately". This should be enforced at all tournaments and with all clubs. It has become an "epidemic". Every tournament and every game there is a huge percentage of potential injury having older boys playing down with younger aged boys. Regardless of grade!! Where does a concerned parent turn? This is a great sport that my son loves, but it has a huge flaw that "EVERY" parent speaks of . Something "needs" to be done. We need Help.

Even snowflakes like me read this post and cringed - you have an opinion, it is not a fact or crorrect, nor does it make other peoples opinion wrong, it is just your opinion.

"Integrity"? there is more integrity in politics than youth sports, particularly for profit club teams.

"Epidemic" ? really?

"EVERY" Parent, ? well not every parent, not me.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families of children forced to play a game with other children in their own grade.

Sounds like the proud pappa of a big older holdback Rabil. Yes, You are correct the parents that held back there kids for sports would not be on board with the ethically sound family's . Must be hard going through life thinking you know it all? Please your prayers should stay with you, your kids going to need them.

Actually - He is young and small for his grade and holding him back or playing age based would have benefited him in the short term, I believe playing against kids in his grade or a grade older is why is has been able to succeed at "the next level"

So for all of you Don Quixote's out there tilting at windmills your adversaries are incorrectly perceived, your fight is unfounded and unwinnable so rather than rant anonymously on line I suggest you deal with the fact that youth club lacrosse was, is and for the near future going to be grade based so figure out how best to deal with it but always keep dreaming the impossible dream as you try and beat that unbeatable foe.

So probably was said by many parents of other sports - how'd that end up going? Why people think that lacrosse is different in that sense than other sports boggles the mind . . .

Really you a snowflake? I don't think so. Don't be naive and to say its ok to cheat in youth sports because it is happening in politics. And as far as an epidemic! yes, go read the other forums. all posts loaded with dissatisfaction of clubs cheating with AGE discrepancies. It is a disgraceful part of the sport. And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports.Feel the same way. So snowflake, ask yourself this? When your undersized holdback Rabil plays other sports and has to be on age, do you hate the fact he is mediocre?Or do you throw a temper tantrum take your ball and say ok I quit!

He probably doesn't play any other sports. All lax. All the time. Chasing the lax scholarship pipe dream that leads to a dead end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really you a snowflake? I don't think so. Don't be naive and to say its ok to cheat in youth sports because it is happening in politics. And as far as an epidemic! yes, go read the other forums. all posts loaded with dissatisfaction of clubs cheating with AGE discrepancies. It is a disgraceful part of the sport. And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports. So snowflake, ask yourself this? When your undersized holdback Rabil plays other sports and has to be on age, do you hate the fact he is mediocre?Or do you throw a temper tantrum take your ball and say ok I quit!

"And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports Feel the same way." - this is 100% false..... my child was of legitimate age and always played in grade and often played up a grade or two to play against better competition

Too be clear, and based on your response I was not clear - my child was small AND young for his grade, he will graduate HS at 17

if the team/tournament is grade based and a child is playing in his grade than it is NOT cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really you a snowflake? I don't think so. Don't be naive and to say its ok to cheat in youth sports because it is happening in politics. And as far as an epidemic! yes, go read the other forums. all posts loaded with dissatisfaction of clubs cheating with AGE discrepancies. It is a disgraceful part of the sport. And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports. So snowflake, ask yourself this? When your undersized holdback Rabil plays other sports and has to be on age, do you hate the fact he is mediocre?Or do you throw a temper tantrum take your ball and say ok I quit!

"And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports Feel the same way." - this is 100% false..... my child was of legitimate age and always played in grade and often played up a grade or two to play against better competition

Too be clear, and based on your response I was not clear - my child was small AND young for his grade, he will graduate HS at 17

if the team/tournament is grade based and a child is playing in his grade than it is NOT cheating.

Not cheating...It's Gaming the system.... This is a sad lesson. The boys learn this at a young age..

Did you ever hear the phrase beating a dead horse. Yes it should be age based. Age based is as fair as can be, but it's not. Deal with it or just have your son play another sport. There isn't more to say on this topic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you ever hear the phrase beating a dead horse. Yes it should be age based. Age based is as fair as can be, but it's not. Deal with it or just have your son play another sport. There isn't more to say on this topic.

I think its constantly brought up because every tournament across the country it is shoved in our faces. I feel like ignoring isn't very American.

Keep bringing the Big boys..... and I will keep calling you out on it..... Just sayin.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really you a snowflake? I don't think so. Don't be naive and to say its ok to cheat in youth sports because it is happening in politics. And as far as an epidemic! yes, go read the other forums. all posts loaded with dissatisfaction of clubs cheating with AGE discrepancies. It is a disgraceful part of the sport. And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports.Feel the same way. So snowflake, ask yourself this? When your undersized holdback Rabil plays other sports and has to be on age, do you hate the fact he is mediocre?Or do you throw a temper tantrum take your ball and say ok I quit!

feel free to PM me to discuss

Fighting Ducks Chaos is an A team and a competitive one! These boys work very hard to play at this level. They can play and be competitive against any team out there win or lose! Hats off to the coaches and players for all the hard work they put in. They will just get better watch out!

5 A teams in the age group on Long Island whether people want to acknowledge it or not. Just because a team is not the T-shirt Champs doesn't mean their not a competitive team. All of these teams are talented some just a little more. Oh yeah and the NUTS are the only AA!

Igloo
Blast
Geese
Ducks
Channy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 A teams in the age group on Long Island whether people want to acknowledge it or not. Just because a team is not the T-shirt Champs doesn't mean their not a competitive team. All of these teams are talented some just a little more. Oh yeah and the NUTS are the only AA!

Igloo
Blast
Geese
Ducks
Channy

Annapolis Hawks beat all these teams. Stop living in the past, the Island dominance is OVER!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 A teams in the age group on Long Island whether people want to acknowledge it or not. Just because a team is not the T-shirt Champs doesn't mean their not a competitive team. All of these teams are talented some just a little more. Oh yeah and the NUTS are the only AA!

Igloo
Blast
Geese
Ducks
Channy

Annapolis Hawks beat all these teams. Stop living in the past, the Island dominance is OVER!

Annapolis Hawks lost to 91 Blast, badly, in their only matchup which was in July of 2016 (therefore meaningless). Have another crabcake.

With the standard Maryland 2x hold backs... anyway genius read the post again, just my opinion that all 5 of these teams are competitive A teams on LONG ISLAND. Don't really care about your 12 yr 2025 Holdback Hawks team. Nuts still only AA team, did your mighty Hodback Hawks beat them?

Originally Posted by Dickie Dunn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really you a snowflake? I don't think so. Don't be naive and to say its ok to cheat in youth sports because it is happening in politics. And as far as an epidemic! yes, go read the other forums. all posts loaded with dissatisfaction of clubs cheating with AGE discrepancies. It is a disgraceful part of the sport. And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports.Feel the same way. So snowflake, ask yourself this? When your undersized holdback Rabil plays other sports and has to be on age, do you hate the fact he is mediocre?Or do you throw a temper tantrum take your ball and say ok I quit!

feel free to PM me to discuss

Look at the very next post that followed our conversation regarding the Maryland hawks that had nothing to do with our conversation.......Comn? The hold back situation is in epidemic.Every time a good team gets beat people will yell out cheaters! or holdbacks! all I am saying is follow some kind of any kind of age rule. And you will not have all this bickering.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the standard Maryland 2x hold backs... anyway genius read the post again, just my opinion that all 5 of these teams are competitive A teams on LONG ISLAND. Don't really care about your 12 yr 2025 Holdback Hawks team. Nuts still only AA team, did your mighty Hodback Hawks beat them?

Only AA Nuts are your saggy pair.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 A teams in the age group on Long Island whether people want to acknowledge it or not. Just because a team is not the T-shirt Champs doesn't mean their not a competitive team. All of these teams are talented some just a little more. Oh yeah and the NUTS are the only AA!

Igloo
Blast
Geese
Ducks
Channy

Annapolis Hawks beat all these teams. Stop living in the past, the Island dominance is OVER!

Annapolis Hawks lost to 91 Blast, badly, in their only matchup which was in July of 2016 (therefore meaningless). Have another crabcake.

Didn't your Blast lose to a Jersey team last July 2017? Can't wait until next year when you blame every lose your LI team have to hold backs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 A teams in the age group on Long Island whether people want to acknowledge it or not. Just because a team is not the T-shirt Champs doesn't mean their not a competitive team. All of these teams are talented some just a little more. Oh yeah and the NUTS are the only AA!

Igloo
Blast
Geese
Ducks
Channy

Clearly not in order as Channy would be flipped with Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the standard Maryland 2x hold backs... anyway genius read the post again, just my opinion that all 5 of these teams are competitive A teams on LONG ISLAND. Don't really care about your 12 yr 2025 Holdback Hawks team. Nuts still only AA team, did your mighty Hodback Hawks beat them?

Only AA Nuts are your saggy pair.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 A teams in the age group on Long Island whether people want to acknowledge it or not. Just because a team is not the T-shirt Champs doesn't mean their not a competitive team. All of these teams are talented some just a little more. Oh yeah and the NUTS are the only AA!

Igloo
Blast
Geese
Ducks
Channy

Annapolis Hawks beat all these teams. Stop living in the past, the Island dominance is OVER!

Annapolis Hawks lost to 91 Blast, badly, in their only matchup which was in July of 2016 (therefore meaningless). Have another crabcake.

Didn't your Blast lose to a Jersey team last July 2017? Can't wait until next year when you blame every lose your LI team have to hold backs.

Dat not Engrish im tinking. U muss b 1 fart smella to spek in tungs lik dat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Dickie Dunn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really you a snowflake? I don't think so. Don't be naive and to say its ok to cheat in youth sports because it is happening in politics. And as far as an epidemic! yes, go read the other forums. all posts loaded with dissatisfaction of clubs cheating with AGE discrepancies. It is a disgraceful part of the sport. And EVERY legitimate parent being truthful having kids on age playing youth sports.Feel the same way. So snowflake, ask yourself this? When your undersized holdback Rabil plays other sports and has to be on age, do you hate the fact he is mediocre?Or do you throw a temper tantrum take your ball and say ok I quit!

feel free to PM me to discuss

Look at the very next post that followed our conversation regarding the Maryland hawks that had nothing to do with our conversation.......Comn? The hold back situation is in epidemic.Every time a good team gets beat people will yell out cheaters! or holdbacks! all I am saying is follow some kind of any kind of age rule. And you will not have all this bickering.

Agree to disagree - as long as they keep score there will be uproars - cheaters gonna cheat and babies gonna cry - happens in hockey all the time and they are age based but all the sudden "guest" players appear for one game or one tournament - kid on roster #whatever is not the kid playing wearing that number. So IMHO the only thing that will change if you go to grade based teams and tournaments is that if it is a U13 and the kid is fourteen in will actually be cheating. until they have a way to do photo ideas and national registrations make the rule change will mean nothing.

I also happen to be in the minority that likes grade based - play with and against your classmates.

Went to island box lacrosse tonight for the first time. A friend recommended it to us. Great experience for my son and was taught how to play box lacrosse. Probably the only one that does.

Check out North of the Border Box Lax.Mike Taylor is one of the best around

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Went to island box lacrosse tonight for the first time. A friend recommended it to us. Great experience for my son and was taught how to play box lacrosse. Probably the only one that does.

Until the stick skills are there, no learning box.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check out North of the Border Box Lax.Mike Taylor is one of the best around

On Long Island, he is the best around. Rob Cambell would be 2nd,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check out North of the Border Box Lax.Mike Taylor is one of the best around

On Long Island, he is the best around. Rob Cambell would be 2nd,

How is fl$ box lacrosse?

Much more reps playing box most College coaches say kids would benefit from playing box before field. More touched and less standing around. Campbell does an offense clinic at the Athlete Zone during the week. Good stuff as well.
He and Taylor were a team at some point

the fall classic schedule is out. who's the blast biggest competition in the tourney?

Themselves and their parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the fall classic schedule is out. who's the blast biggest competition in the tourney?

BBL North 2025

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check out North of the Border Box Lax.Mike Taylor is one of the best around

On Long Island, he is the best around. Rob Cambell would be 2nd,

Mike Taylor hasn't helped Geese beat Channy.

He hasn't helped geese beat channy. Do you even hear how stupid that sounds. So he isn't a good trainer because geese lost to channy. He helps players become better, that's the point. Geese losing to Channy means nothing. They are 10, it means less than nothing actually.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He hasn't helped geese beat channy. Do you even hear how stupid that sounds. So he isn't a good trainer because geese lost to channy. He helps players become better, that's the point. Geese losing to Channy means nothing. They are 10, it means less than nothing actually.

Somebody is angry. I'm happy I didn't have to ride home with you. We took the Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He hasn't helped geese beat channy. Do you even hear how stupid that sounds. So he isn't a good trainer because geese lost to channy. He helps players become better, that's the point. Geese losing to Channy means nothing. They are 10, it means less than nothing actually.

Less than nothing?? Seriously??

Happy on ride home, happy when I got home, happy that night, happy today. Sorry man, my families happiness isn't based on any of my kids youth sports, won/loss records. Get a life guy. I'm to busy to explain to you what's important and what's not. The man is a real good lacrosse trainer, my older son and his friends love him as well. Use him, don't use him. I don't care at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He hasn't helped geese beat channy. Do you even hear how stupid that sounds. So he isn't a good trainer because geese lost to channy. He helps players become better, that's the point. Geese losing to Channy means nothing. They are 10, it means less than nothing actually.

Less than nothing?? Seriously??

It could mean that Mike Taylor is great but wasnt given anything to work with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He hasn't helped geese beat channy. Do you even hear how stupid that sounds. So he isn't a good trainer because geese lost to channy. He helps players become better, that's the point. Geese losing to Channy means nothing. They are 10, it means less than nothing actually.

Less than nothing?? Seriously??

It's what losers say, it always matters when you play a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He hasn't helped geese beat channy. Do you even hear how stupid that sounds. So he isn't a good trainer because geese lost to channy. He helps players become better, that's the point. Geese losing to Channy means nothing. They are 10, it means less than nothing actually.

Less than nothing?? Seriously??

It's what losers say, it always matters when you play a game.

The Golden Geese. Kings of 2nd grade lacrosse.

You don't play the game, the kids do. It does matter who wins when the kids play the game,but 10 minutes after the game is over it doesn't. If it still matters to you after the game is over and you think about it in bed and think about it at work and you are an adult. Don't take this the wrong way, but you need to get a life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't play the game, the kids do. It does matter who wins when the kids play the game,but 10 minutes after the game is over it doesn't. If it still matters to you after the game is over and you think about it in bed and think about it at work and you are an adult. Don't take this the wrong way, but you need to get a life.

Stop projecting.

Doesn't bother me, but as we all know and as we should teach our children, winning is better than losing. Much better.

None of the Express wins matter until they put a true 2025 team on the field. It takes away from all the legit 10 and 11 year olds they have. Think Express parents also feel the same and reason why the dad stands by himself cheering on his 6th grader.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the Express wins matter until they put a true 2025 team on the field. It takes away from all the legit 10 and 11 year olds they have. Think Express parents also feel the same and reason why the dad stands by himself cheering on his 6th grader.

Truth!!!!! He must be a despicable human being. Who knows what damage they are doing to the poor kid. DISGUSTING!!!!!

Primetime 2025/6 beat Predators to win the 2025 class at Yale. Nice win in the battle of Westchester!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check out North of the Border Box Lax.Mike Taylor is one of the best around

On Long Island, he is the best around. Rob Cambell would be 2nd,

How is fl$ box lacrosse?

Best around? They both teach indoor field. Definitely not the Box they play in Canada or anywhere else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the Express wins matter until they put a true 2025 team on the field. It takes away from all the legit 10 and 11 year olds they have. Think Express parents also feel the same and reason why the dad stands by himself cheering on his 6th grader.

Truth!!!!! He must be a despicable human being. Who knows what damage they are doing to the poor kid. DISGUSTING!!!!!

Stop your crying there best player is hurt and you still got beat. If the kid was born after Sept.1st, 2006 he is good to go. And it would make him younger then most of the 2025 kids anyway.Are you saying that this one boy is the sole reason you lost?

They got beat by one goal in overtime by a stupid
goal that maybe your goalie should of stopped.
Better luck next time Geese, see you in the spring!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the Express wins matter until they put a true 2025 team on the field. It takes away from all the legit 10 and 11 year olds they have. Think Express parents also feel the same and reason why the dad stands by himself cheering on his 6th grader.

Truth!!!!! He must be a despicable human being. Who knows what damage they are doing to the poor kid. DISGUSTING!!!!!

Stop your crying there best player is hurt and you still got beat. If the kid was born after Sept.1st, 2006 he is good to go. And it would make him younger then most of the 2025 kids anyway.Are you saying that this one boy is the sole reason you lost?

The kid is 2024. Despicable. 6th grade cheater.
If you can’t win fairly then add older kids and the [lacrosse] with the rules..
Fact, with that player, Express 2025 should be required to play 2024.
Or if the legit 2025 5th graders families had any cajones they would tell Channey to cut the crap.

The parents who have older kids, reading this nonsense are laughing at you. Not laughing with you, but at you.

Every single sport is age based, why on earth can't lax just get this right already. It's the fairest system out there and it would be great to end this topic once and for all.

Express Channy, the best 2024 team in 2025! YEAH!!!!

It's the new Express way to do business. It's not just the 2025 team. The 2024 team has a 2023 on it. Shame on you, Express!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every single sport is age based, why on earth can't lax just get this right already. It's the fairest system out there and it would be great to end this topic once and for all.

Do your part to make this happen - speak out: [Linked Image]

This all seems trivial to me. In my opinion most of these parents are living through their kids. All that matters is that the kid is on an A team. They don’t care if they play or not. To the parents with older children that have been through this. What are your thoughts? Does it really matter at this age? I’ve talked to coaches and most say it doesn’t matter at this age. Most talent will level off but the smaller kids will get left behind by the bigger kidsB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This all seems trivial to me. In my opinion most of these parents are living through their kids. All that matters is that the kid is on an A team. They don’t care if they play or not. To the parents with older children that have been through this. What are your thoughts? Does it really matter at this age? I’ve talked to coaches and most say it doesn’t matter at this age. Most talent will level off but the smaller kids will get left behind by the bigger kidsB

Does what matter at this age?? The Quote button is your friend . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This all seems trivial to me. In my opinion most of these parents are living through their kids. All that matters is that the kid is on an A team. They don’t care if they play or not. To the parents with older children that have been through this. What are your thoughts? Does it really matter at this age? I’ve talked to coaches and most say it doesn’t matter at this age. Most talent will level off but the smaller kids will get left behind by the bigger kidsB

Does what matter at this age?? The Quote button is your friend . . .

What club they play for or even how well they play at this age. Kids will get more coordinated as they get older and it will be easier for them to learn.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every single sport is age based, why on earth can't lax just get this right already. It's the fairest system out there and it would be great to end this topic once and for all.

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I really hope that Age verification is brought up as a topic in this meeting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every single sport is age based, why on earth can't lax just get this right already. It's the fairest system out there and it would be great to end this topic once and for all.

Do your part to make this happen - speak out: [Linked Image]

I really hope that Age verification is brought up as a topic in this meeting

Or even grade verification. My kids' club has never asked me for proof of age or grade. I wish it were strictly age based, but now its grade based. But yet no one is asked to document their grade. At the very least there should be a verification system for the set up we have. Let along moving to a much better set up (age based).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every single sport is age based, why on earth can't lax just get this right already. It's the fairest system out there and it would be great to end this topic once and for all.

Do your part to make this happen - speak out: [Linked Image]

I really hope that Age verification is brought up as a topic in this meeting

Or even grade verification. My kids' club has never asked me for proof of age or grade. I wish it were strictly age based, but now its grade based. But yet no one is asked to document their grade. At the very least there should be a verification system for the set up we have. Let along moving to a much better set up (age based).

If you feel that strongly go up to the tourney director at every tourney your son plays in and demand a verification for all teams. If your coach gets mad, you probably don't want to be that club or coach anyway for condoning it. Let's see who goes from anonymously complaining to action. If you're not willing to do that, you should accept it and move on. That way we can go back to complaining about legal holdbacks. Wish my son was one, didn't know in pre k. Lol

worst offenders are on PAL board. One allows a bunch of 91 teammates from other towns play on his teams . He will even make the call to ask if a town doesn’t want to release a player. Completely against what PAL is supposed to be

PAL does ask for a birth certificate for all 1st year players and a report card if the player was born prior to 12/1 .

Funny thing was PAL screwed up last year and sent everyone a copy of the rosters. So all the complaints are easy verifiable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the Express wins matter until they put a true 2025 team on the field. It takes away from all the legit 10 and 11 year olds they have. Think Express parents also feel the same and reason why the dad stands by himself cheering on his 6th grader.

Truth!!!!! He must be a despicable human being. Who knows what damage they are doing to the poor kid. DISGUSTING!!!!!

Stop your crying there best player is hurt and you still got beat. If the kid was born after Sept.1st, 2006 he is good to go. And it would make him younger then most of the 2025 kids anyway.Are you saying that this one boy is the sole reason you lost?

The kid is 2024. Despicable. 6th grade cheater.
If you can’t win fairly then add older kids and the [lacrosse] with the rules..
Fact, with that player, Express 2025 should be required to play 2024.
Or if the legit 2025 5th graders families had any cajones they would tell Channey to cut the crap.

Why were you ok streaking at the legacy parade and getting a club logo tattooed on your a** when a handful of 9 graders were added to the team to play against all 8th graders in the 2016 world series? Please stop being hypocritical!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the Express wins matter until they put a true 2025 team on the field. It takes away from all the legit 10 and 11 year olds they have. Think Express parents also feel the same and reason why the dad stands by himself cheering on his 6th grader.

Truth!!!!! He must be a despicable human being. Who knows what damage they are doing to the poor kid. DISGUSTING!!!!!

Stop your crying there best player is hurt and you still got beat. If the kid was born after Sept.1st, 2006 he is good to go. And it would make him younger then most of the 2025 kids anyway.Are you saying that this one boy is the sole reason you lost?

The kid is 2024. Despicable. 6th grade cheater.
If you can’t win fairly then add older kids and the [lacrosse] with the rules..
Fact, with that player, Express 2025 should be required to play 2024.
Or if the legit 2025 5th graders families had any cajones they would tell Channey to cut the crap.

Why were you ok streaking at the legacy parade and getting a club logo tattooed on your a** when a handful of 9 graders were added to the team to play against all 8th graders in the 2016 world series? Please stop being hypocritical!

You know better. What Legacy did was within those rules. What Channy is doing is mixing a current 6th grader in with 5th graders in a grade based system. The grade based rules say you play the Tournaments at the grade level of the highest grade kid. There is no fantasy grade based system with a Channy only, because he said it's Ok WSYL age exception.

Enjoy the 2024 bracket. I'm sure Taz would be happy to play! As would many of the other legitimate 2024 teams.

Meanwhile this team is barely holding on in 2025 even with the cheating. That is why I'll bet there will be many more teams laughing at your team as you collect undeserved shirts.

And when Express gets beat even with the cheaters, the celebration will be even louder.

That team is as phony as Channys teeth.

Your comments are so tiresome. I hear what your saying, the system is screwed up, I agree. However if the 6th grade kid is younger than 5th grade kids, it's not cheating. Again the system is screwed up. If my child was a genius in school, My wife and I decide to bump him up a grade, why should he be punished in sports, going against older kids. This is youth , not high school. Then on the other side of coin, if my son was really slow with school and socially behind and teacher suggests we hold him back, why should he get an unfair advantage playing against younger kids.Your age is your age period. If his age is the same as the competition age, it's not cheating. This is not even debatable if you ask me. Move on already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your comments are so tiresome. I hear what your saying, the system is screwed up, I agree. However if the 6th grade kid is younger than 5th grade kids, it's not cheating. Again the system is screwed up. If my child was a genius in school, My wife and I decide to bump him up a grade, why should he be punished in sports, going against older kids. This is youth , not high school. Then on the other side of coin, if my son was really slow with school and socially behind and teacher suggests we hold him back, why should he get an unfair advantage playing against younger kids.Your age is your age period. If his age is the same as the competition age, it's not cheating. This is not even debatable if you ask me. Move on already.

wrong wrong wrong - if it is a 5th grade tournament and your kid is in 6th grade that is cheating - I understand the age based argument ( I do not agree with iot but I understand it ) but if it is a 5th grade tournament it is for kids currently enrolled in 5th grade. I will now move on

Glad he is moving on. Cheating is something that gives someone an unfair advantage. if 2 kids are 10 or 2 kids are 11, one kid is a stronger student then the other. The 11 year old in 6th grade is born in October, the 11 year old in 5th grade is born in October too. How on earth does that give either kid or team an advantage on the lacrosse field. Any sport actually. If someone can explain how that is an advantage, I'm all ears.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad he is moving on. Cheating is something that gives someone an unfair advantage. if 2 kids are 10 or 2 kids are 11, one kid is a stronger student then the other. The 11 year old in 6th grade is born in October, the 11 year old in 5th grade is born in October too. How on earth does that give either kid or team an advantage on the lacrosse field. Any sport actually. If someone can explain how that is an advantage, I'm all ears.

You're wasting your time trying to rational with this person. He/she is the only one that has a problem with it, which clearly means it's personal. My guess is that this other kid bumped his/her kid down on the depth chart or off of the chart entirely. He/she's clearly irrationally obsessed, but will do nothing but complain anonymously on a website. That is the quickest way to lose credibility.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your comments are so tiresome. I hear what your saying, the system is screwed up, I agree. However if the 6th grade kid is younger than 5th grade kids, it's not cheating. Again the system is screwed up. If my child was a genius in school, My wife and I decide to bump him up a grade, why should he be punished in sports, going against older kids. This is youth , not high school. Then on the other side of coin, if my son was really slow with school and socially behind and teacher suggests we hold him back, why should he get an unfair advantage playing against younger kids.Your age is your age period. If his age is the same as the competition age, it's not cheating. This is not even debatable if you ask me. Move on already.

The kid is not and was not bumped up, he is at grade level for 6th, he is in 6th where he belongs. Worse, he tried out for 2024, got placed on the B team and then because he has despicable parents miraculously appears on the 2025 A team due to the top secret Channy special exception to the grade based rule, but it isn't cheating hall pass. I get it now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad he is moving on. Cheating is something that gives someone an unfair advantage. if 2 kids are 10 or 2 kids are 11, one kid is a stronger student then the other. The 11 year old in 6th grade is born in October, the 11 year old in 5th grade is born in October too. How on earth does that give either kid or team an advantage on the lacrosse field. Any sport actually. If someone can explain how that is an advantage, I'm all ears.

You're wasting your time trying to rational with this person. He/she is the only one that has a problem with it, which clearly means it's personal. My guess is that this other kid bumped his/her kid down on the depth chart or off of the chart entirely. He/she's clearly irrationally obsessed, but will do nothing but complain anonymously on a website. That is the quickest way to lose credibility.

So why have any rules at all? So if Express is playing a Team that has no holdbacks and they know that, does he have to sit? Stop making stuff up. It's ridiculous. And let's set this straight, my son is first quarter 2007, and on grade, doesn't play for Express, although Channy asked as he does with so many because he is so loyal. I'm glad my son chose to stay put.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your comments are so tiresome. I hear what your saying, the system is screwed up, I agree. However if the 6th grade kid is younger than 5th grade kids, it's not cheating. Again the system is screwed up. If my child was a genius in school, My wife and I decide to bump him up a grade, why should he be punished in sports, going against older kids. This is youth , not high school. Then on the other side of coin, if my son was really slow with school and socially behind and teacher suggests we hold him back, why should he get an unfair advantage playing against younger kids.Your age is your age period. If his age is the same as the competition age, it's not cheating. This is not even debatable if you ask me. Move on already.

wrong wrong wrong - if it is a 5th grade tournament and your kid is in 6th grade that is cheating - I understand the age based argument ( I do not agree with iot but I understand it ) but if it is a 5th grade tournament it is for kids currently enrolled in 5th grade. I will now move on

The big question then is, how do you know they are all in 5th grade?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad he is moving on. Cheating is something that gives someone an unfair advantage. if 2 kids are 10 or 2 kids are 11, one kid is a stronger student then the other. The 11 year old in 6th grade is born in October, the 11 year old in 5th grade is born in October too. How on earth does that give either kid or team an advantage on the lacrosse field. Any sport actually. If someone can explain how that is an advantage, I'm all ears.

You're wasting your time trying to rational with this person. He/she is the only one that has a problem with it, which clearly means it's personal. My guess is that this other kid bumped his/her kid down on the depth chart or off of the chart entirely. He/she's clearly irrationally obsessed, but will do nothing but complain anonymously on a website. That is the quickest way to lose credibility.

So why have any rules at all? So if Express is playing a Team that has no holdbacks and they know that, does he have to sit? Stop making stuff up. It's ridiculous. And let's set this straight, my son is first quarter 2007, and on grade, doesn't play for Express, although Channy asked as he does with so many because he is so loyal. I'm glad my son chose to stay put.

I think that is the point...There are NO rules! But there should be.Until rules are enforced, parents will be questioning every loss and scrutinizing larger or better players. That's bad...and sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad he is moving on. Cheating is something that gives someone an unfair advantage. if 2 kids are 10 or 2 kids are 11, one kid is a stronger student then the other. The 11 year old in 6th grade is born in October, the 11 year old in 5th grade is born in October too. How on earth does that give either kid or team an advantage on the lacrosse field. Any sport actually. If someone can explain how that is an advantage, I'm all ears.

You're wasting your time trying to rational with this person. He/she is the only one that has a problem with it, which clearly means it's personal. My guess is that this other kid bumped his/her kid down on the depth chart or off of the chart entirely. He/she's clearly irrationally obsessed, but will do nothing but complain anonymously on a website. That is the quickest way to lose credibility.

So why have any rules at all? So if Express is playing a Team that has no holdbacks and they know that, does he have to sit? Stop making stuff up. It's ridiculous. And let's set this straight, my son is first quarter 2007, and on grade, doesn't play for Express, although Channy asked as he does with so many because he is so loyal. I'm glad my son chose to stay put.

I think that is the point...There are NO rules! But there should be.Until rules are enforced, parents will be questioning every loss and scrutinizing larger or better players. That's bad...and sad.

Who cares if the kid or kids are a year older!! Everyone is always looking for an edge to be the best, it happens in every aspect of life, you should be use to it by now. Listen at the end of the day if legacy is only losing by 1 goal in OT and being a man down and not to mention with their backup goalie in net, that's not that bad. Playing older kids will only make the boys try harder and play smarter. Channy is really doing the geese a favor, life is not about winning tshirts, and when they do win, it will make it that much sweeter..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad he is moving on. Cheating is something that gives someone an unfair advantage. if 2 kids are 10 or 2 kids are 11, one kid is a stronger student then the other. The 11 year old in 6th grade is born in October, the 11 year old in 5th grade is born in October too. How on earth does that give either kid or team an advantage on the lacrosse field. Any sport actually. If someone can explain how that is an advantage, I'm all ears.

You're wasting your time trying to rational with this person. He/she is the only one that has a problem with it, which clearly means it's personal. My guess is that this other kid bumped his/her kid down on the depth chart or off of the chart entirely. He/she's clearly irrationally obsessed, but will do nothing but complain anonymously on a website. That is the quickest way to lose credibility.

So why have any rules at all? So if Express is playing a Team that has no holdbacks and they know that, does he have to sit? Stop making stuff up. It's ridiculous. And let's set this straight, my son is first quarter 2007, and on grade, doesn't play for Express, although Channy asked as he does with so many because he is so loyal. I'm glad my son chose to stay put.

So if your kid didn’t get bumped on Channy, then you must be a Blastard. You people will never stop making excuses about why your team has fallen so hard. FYI, it’s because of you nuts on the sideline.

BTW, since Fall Classic is a 91 Tournament, you must know that your coaches made sure that you didn’t have to play Express North in pool play. Could you imagine the outcry if you lost to them twice in a month! You lunatics would be emailing and calling anyone that wears orange! It would be like losing to the Garden City town team all over again!! Such a joke!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad he is moving on. Cheating is something that gives someone an unfair advantage. if 2 kids are 10 or 2 kids are 11, one kid is a stronger student then the other. The 11 year old in 6th grade is born in October, the 11 year old in 5th grade is born in October too. How on earth does that give either kid or team an advantage on the lacrosse field. Any sport actually. If someone can explain how that is an advantage, I'm all ears.

If you put the 11yr old with 5 graders, he should fair much better than putting him with 6th graders. Another year of development. Just imagine putting your 5th grade now in 4th grade lacrosse. Would be cake walk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad he is moving on. Cheating is something that gives someone an unfair advantage. if 2 kids are 10 or 2 kids are 11, one kid is a stronger student then the other. The 11 year old in 6th grade is born in October, the 11 year old in 5th grade is born in October too. How on earth does that give either kid or team an advantage on the lacrosse field. Any sport actually. If someone can explain how that is an advantage, I'm all ears.

You're wasting your time trying to rational with this person. He/she is the only one that has a problem with it, which clearly means it's personal. My guess is that this other kid bumped his/her kid down on the depth chart or off of the chart entirely. He/she's clearly irrationally obsessed, but will do nothing but complain anonymously on a website. That is the quickest way to lose credibility.

So why have any rules at all? So if Express is playing a Team that has no holdbacks and they know that, does he have to sit? Stop making stuff up. It's ridiculous. And let's set this straight, my son is first quarter 2007, and on grade, doesn't play for Express, although Channy asked as he does with so many because he is so loyal. I'm glad my son chose to stay put.

So if your kid didn’t get bumped on Channy, then you must be a Blastard. You people will never stop making excuses about why your team has fallen so hard. FYI, it’s because of you nuts on the sideline.

BTW, since Fall Classic is a 91 Tournament, you must know that your coaches made sure that you didn’t have to play Express North in pool play. Could you imagine the outcry if you lost to them twice in a month! You lunatics would be emailing and calling anyone that wears orange! It would be like losing to the Garden City town team all over again!! Such a joke!!

Wrong again, but I can certainly say it will be so much more fun every time your sons team gets beat. Just remember that your son isn't better, he is just older.

And you wander off to review the schedule and rip 91 but your son and his organization are playing down to win. And you say other parents are nuts! As the saying goes, pot, meet kettle.

The point was if the kids are the same age, not grade. Age. If they are the same age it's as fair as can be. My son is 10 , he will be 11 in a few months. if the kid on the other team is Doogie Howser and he is also 10, but he is an 8th grade student, he is not cheating playing against my son's team. I don't care what anybody says. It is not cheating.

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

Yeah, you’re kid definitely got bumped. Stop being such a whiny Mary about it and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

And wait until summer when Channy adds a few new starters, last year it was the Texas 2 step, this year there will be more. Bet on it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

Yeah, you’re kid definitely got bumped. Stop being such a whiny Mary about it and move on.

They held a parent meeting last summer and we're told that the team was being split into AA and A and that wasn't the result. So that's probably still an idea that may pan out.

Your not paying $4k to share sideline and playing time . They are supposed to be teaching the kids to play lacrosse not how to cheat the system

Can the title of this thread be changed to Boys 2025 (and 2024) - 5th Grade (and 6th if your not good enough)?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

And wait until summer when Channy adds a few new starters, last year it was the Texas 2 step, this year there will be more. Bet on it!

I heard this year is the Baltimore Bombers!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

Yeah, you’re kid definitely got bumped. Stop being such a whiny Mary about it and move on.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point was if the kids are the same age, not grade. Age. If they are the same age it's as fair as can be. My son is 10 , he will be 11 in a few months. if the kid on the other team is Doogie Howser and he is also 10, but he is an 8th grade student, he is not cheating playing against my son's team. I don't care what anybody says. It is not cheating.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

If Stephen Hawking rolled onto the field wearing an Express North jersey, while it would be no advantage to Express North it would still be cheating because he is not in 5th grade

a tournament without rules is anarchy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

Yeah, you’re kid definitely got bumped. Stop being such a whiny Mary about it and move on.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point was if the kids are the same age, not grade. Age. If they are the same age it's as fair as can be. My son is 10 , he will be 11 in a few months. if the kid on the other team is Doogie Howser and he is also 10, but he is an 8th grade student, he is not cheating playing against my son's team. I don't care what anybody says. It is not cheating.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

If Stephen Hawking rolled onto the field wearing an Express North jersey, while it would be no advantage to Express North it would still be cheating because he is not in 5th grade

a tournament without rules is anarchy

The people who cheated the system early on (hold backs) say its cheating. And I would say that most of the TOP teams have at least 85% of there teams roster made up up of kids born in 2006. To me, that makes it an even playing field . There is only one boy in question right now. Could you imagine how much better that team would be if the other 2 boys decided to play 2025? You want to avoid this? Then have the tournament directors put some DOB restrictions on there tournaments.... wait no good??? oh ya your kid was held back for lax so he could play with younger kids and have an advantage. You feel threatened by a young 6th grader who is about the exact same age as 85% of the boys on your team . What do you do in 2-yrs and the WSYL tryouts rolls around and the young 2024's born after Aug.31st decide to show up and take little Johnny's spot?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

Yeah, you’re kid definitely got bumped. Stop being such a whiny Mary about it and move on.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point was if the kids are the same age, not grade. Age. If they are the same age it's as fair as can be. My son is 10 , he will be 11 in a few months. if the kid on the other team is Doogie Howser and he is also 10, but he is an 8th grade student, he is not cheating playing against my son's team. I don't care what anybody says. It is not cheating.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

If Stephen Hawking rolled onto the field wearing an Express North jersey, while it would be no advantage to Express North it would still be cheating because he is not in 5th grade

a tournament without rules is anarchy

The people who cheated the system early on (hold backs) say its cheating. And I would say that most of the TOP teams have at least 85% of there teams roster made up up of kids born in 2006. To me, that makes it an even playing field . There is only one boy in question right now. Could you imagine how much better that team would be if the other 2 boys decided to play 2025? You want to avoid this? Then have the tournament directors put some DOB restrictions on there tournaments.... wait no good??? oh ya your kid was held back for lax so he could play with younger kids and have an advantage. You feel threatened by a young 6th grader who is about the exact same age as 85% of the boys on your team . What do you do in 2-yrs and the WSYL tryouts rolls around and the young 2024's born after Aug.31st decide to show up and take little Johnny's spot?

Please don't make up phony facts to make your BS answer seem even remotely reasonable. Even the Cheating Scum 2024/2025 Express are at least 65/75% 2007 Birthdays if not more. But one 6th grader is too many and makes that cheating 2024 team just weak.

Sorry cheater dad, your personal weakness has dragged down the whole team. It is your fault.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

Yeah, you’re kid definitely got bumped. Stop being such a whiny Mary about it and move on.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point was if the kids are the same age, not grade. Age. If they are the same age it's as fair as can be. My son is 10 , he will be 11 in a few months. if the kid on the other team is Doogie Howser and he is also 10, but he is an 8th grade student, he is not cheating playing against my son's team. I don't care what anybody says. It is not cheating.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

If Stephen Hawking rolled onto the field wearing an Express North jersey, while it would be no advantage to Express North it would still be cheating because he is not in 5th grade

a tournament without rules is anarchy

The people who cheated the system early on (hold backs) say its cheating. And I would say that most of the TOP teams have at least 85% of there teams roster made up up of kids born in 2006. To me, that makes it an even playing field . There is only one boy in question right now. Could you imagine how much better that team would be if the other 2 boys decided to play 2025? You want to avoid this? Then have the tournament directors put some DOB restrictions on there tournaments.... wait no good??? oh ya your kid was held back for lax so he could play with younger kids and have an advantage. You feel threatened by a young 6th grader who is about the exact same age as 85% of the boys on your team . What do you do in 2-yrs and the WSYL tryouts rolls around and the young 2024's born after Aug.31st decide to show up and take little Johnny's spot?

Please don't make up phony facts to make your BS answer seem even remotely reasonable. Even the Cheating Scum 2024/2025 Express are at least 65/75% 2007 Birthdays if not more. But one 6th grader is too many and makes that cheating 2024 team just weak.

Sorry cheater dad, your personal weakness has dragged down the whole team. It is your fault.

HAhahaha so you say the top teams have only "35% hold backs"..l think I am closer w/the 85%... at least with the starters.
I am not the cheater dad. But man You are just hating on a team that's besting you. Remember these are 10 and mostly 11yr old boys playing a game.

Hey cheater Dad, whatever makes you feel better. I hear that every other team except Express is 100% holdbacks and Cheaters playing down. It's about time that Channy did what he needed to do to keep up.

Thank the good lord that you have decided to break the age barrier for your organization! It practically a Jackie Robinson moment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey cheater Dad, whatever makes you feel better. I hear that every other team except Express is 100% holdbacks and Cheaters playing down. It's about time that Channy did what he needed to do to keep up.

Thank the good lord that you have decided to break the age barrier for your organization! It practically a Jackie Robinson moment.

If your kid was better and didn’t act like his weak father, this wouldn’t be an issue. Hey, but good job in fixing the problem. I’m sure all clubs are reading your pathetic posts and changing the way they run their teams.

Wow way to go 9d1 looks like you played some stiff competition yesterday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Enrolled in 6th grade and was 11 before school started. The fact that there is some 5th graders that are older on the team doesnt change anything. People complaint are not all opponents. Most of the info came from Fellow parents that disnt like Channy bringing in these kids that weren’t needed. Core of kids is very talented. The new additions were not needed

Yeah, you’re kid definitely got bumped. Stop being such a whiny Mary about it and move on.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point was if the kids are the same age, not grade. Age. If they are the same age it's as fair as can be. My son is 10 , he will be 11 in a few months. if the kid on the other team is Doogie Howser and he is also 10, but he is an 8th grade student, he is not cheating playing against my son's team. I don't care what anybody says. It is not cheating.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

If Stephen Hawking rolled onto the field wearing an Express North jersey, while it would be no advantage to Express North it would still be cheating because he is not in 5th grade

a tournament without rules is anarchy

The people who cheated the system early on (hold backs) say its cheating. And I would say that most of the TOP teams have at least 85% of there teams roster made up up of kids born in 2006. To me, that makes it an even playing field . There is only one boy in question right now. Could you imagine how much better that team would be if the other 2 boys decided to play 2025? You want to avoid this? Then have the tournament directors put some DOB restrictions on there tournaments.... wait no good??? oh ya your kid was held back for lax so he could play with younger kids and have an advantage. You feel threatened by a young 6th grader who is about the exact same age as 85% of the boys on your team . What do you do in 2-yrs and the WSYL tryouts rolls around and the young 2024's born after Aug.31st decide to show up and take little Johnny's spot?

Please don't make up phony facts to make your [lacrosse] answer seem even remotely reasonable. Even the Cheating person 2024/2025 Express are at least 65/75% 2007 Birthdays if not more. But one 6th grader is too many and makes that cheating 2024 team just weak.

Sorry cheater dad, your personal weakness has dragged down the whole team. It is your fault.

HAhahaha so you say the top teams have only "35% hold backs"..l think I am closer w/the 85%... at least with the starters.
I am not the cheater dad. But man You are just hating on a team that's besting you. Remember these are 10 and mostly 11yr old boys playing a game.[/quote

Exactly the point. Most 2025's are not mostly 11yr olds unless of course you play for cheating channy

That's what 91 wanted

Most if not all 2025's should be 10 at this point, not mostly 11. Unless your dad is holdback Harry or again your part of Express.

Nice job by Blast waiting it out till Geese, Ducks, Igloo and Express were done for the season. Congrats on your shirts. I guess this is what we can expect from your new coaches. As long as they put you in the weakest tournaments, they minimize your chances of losing? It's a good strategy for dealing with you parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice job by Blast waiting it out till Geese, Ducks, Igloo and Express were done for the season. Congrats on your shirts. I guess this is what we can expect from your new coaches. As long as they put you in the weakest tournaments, they minimize your chances of losing? It's a good strategy for dealing with you parents.

As we start the week of Thanksgiving week and then start the most wonderful holiday season of the year, I wanted to say that I am thankful that my child is happy and healthy and that whatever teams and sports your child plays for that he is also happy and healthy. Mostly I am thankful for the fact that I could not give 2 $htz about any other team or organization or even how old some kids are, I only care about my own son, my own team, my own organization and that he continues to love this great sport.

You must me be from the channy cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Channy has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must me be from the channy cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Channy has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

One of the new kids is a summer birthday double hold back, they have no shame. Kid will not even make the WSYL roster so what is Channy relying on for that kid? Oh, its a grade based system. Whatever works for you Mikey teeth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must me be from the channy cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Channy has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

You are in denial. This is Lacrosse!! and ALL of the of the TOP teams- Exp, 91, Leg, Ducks all have hold backs on there roster. So they might not all be 11 yet, but a high % of these teams have 06 dob's.

I just an interview with Ty Xanders, he stated that he will no longer be including players that are in the "correct" age for their grade in his write-ups. His thinking is that if the parents don't care enough to hold the player back so as to give him an advantage in 5th grade than he longer will take that kid seriously and include him in write ups. I was shocked by his honesty but I understand the thought process, why reward parents for not holding their kid back.

parents that do not hold their kid back are
whiners not winners

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must me be from the channy cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Channy has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

One of the new kids is a summer birthday double hold back, they have no shame. Kid will not even make the WSYL roster so what is Channy relying on for that kid? Oh, its a grade based system. Whatever works for you Mikey teeth.

Lol, no such thing as bad press. Express is clearly the best team after the fall season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just an interview with Ty Xanders, he stated that he will no longer be including players that are in the "correct" age for their grade in his write-ups. His thinking is that if the parents don't care enough to hold the player back so as to give him an advantage in 5th grade than he longer will take that kid seriously and include him in write ups. I was shocked by his honesty but I understand the thought process, why reward parents for not holding their kid back.

parents that do not hold their kid back are
whiners not winners

I hope this is parody...?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must me be from the channy cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Channy has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

One of the new kids is a summer birthday double hold back, they have no shame. Kid will not even make the WSYL roster so what is Channy relying on for that kid? Oh, its a grade based system. Whatever works for you Mikey teeth.

Lol, no such thing as bad press. Express is clearly the best team after the fall season.

Absolute truth! Best 2024 team playing 2025 there is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must me be from the channy cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Channy has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

One of the new kids is a summer birthday double hold back, they have no shame. Kid will not even make the WSYL roster so what is Channy relying on for that kid? Oh, its a grade based system. Whatever works for you Mikey teeth.

Lol, no such thing as bad press. Express is clearly the best team after the fall season.

Absolute truth! Best 2024 team playing 2025 there is.

They swept the Havoc, Tristar, and N American without losing a game. I'd say that's pretty good. Geese are the only ones that beat them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must me be from the channy cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Channy has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

One of the new kids is a summer birthday double hold back, they have no shame. Kid will not even make the WSYL roster so what is Channy relying on for that kid? Oh, its a grade based system. Whatever works for you Mikey teeth.

Lol, no such thing as bad press. Express is clearly the best team after the fall season.

Absolute truth! Best 2024 team playing 2025 there is.

They swept the Havoc, Tristar, and N American without losing a game. I'd say that's pretty good. Geese are the only ones that beat them.

Its easy to sweep everyone when your playing down. Go bragging about playing teams a year younger

LOL @ Express.

EXPOSED!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL @ Express.

EXPOSED!!!

Fake like Channy's teeth. Fake 2025s.

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must me be from the Chan cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Chan has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

One of the new kids is a summer birthday double hold back, they have no shame. Kid will not even make the WSYL roster so what is Chan relying on for that kid? Oh, its a grade based system. Whatever works for you Mikey teeth.

Lol, no such thing as bad press. Express is clearly the best team after the fall season.

Absolute truth! Best 2024 team playing 2025 there is.

They swept the Havoc, Tristar, and N American without losing a game. I'd say that's pretty good. Geese are the only ones that beat them.

Its easy to sweep everyone when your playing down. Go bragging about playing teams a year younger

It wasn't that easy... A Lot of close games and they even had a loss.

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

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Unlike 91, at least they're playing against big boy teams

What experiment are you referring to , I assume you just are a S**t stirrer

Have a question unrelated to current topic. My son wants the EVO Warp head for Christmas but is getting use to a new head Maverick. He is a middie. Is it counterproductive to have him play with different sticks or just get use to one. Thanks novice lacrosse parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have a question unrelated to current topic. My son wants the EVO Warp head for Christmas but is getting use to a new head Maverick. He is a middie. Is it counterproductive to have him play with different sticks or just get use to one. Thanks novice lacrosse parents.

I prefer my son to get used to one for the season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have a question unrelated to current topic. My son wants the EVO Warp head for Christmas but is getting use to a new head Maverick. He is a middie. Is it counterproductive to have him play with different sticks or just get use to one. Thanks novice lacrosse parents.

Sorry Santa, but the Warp has not shown itself to be a very good head so far. If it was better, you would see tons of athletes using it, so far that hasn't happened. My son has one and he scrapped it because he said it did not give him any hold. There is nothing wrong with a young kid trying different equipment, but the Warp is an expensive experiment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have a question unrelated to current topic. My son wants the EVO Warp head for Christmas but is getting use to a new head Maverick. He is a middie. Is it counterproductive to have him play with different sticks or just get use to one. Thanks novice lacrosse parents.

The Warp Pro is excellent. The other Warps are terrible, you’re better off buying a tennis racket. Either go Warp Pro or stay away from them. Make sure he tries the different pockets and whip levels before you buy as there is no changing it unlike a traditional head that can be restrung.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

I agree, great post. This is a great sport. Most of the people I have met are good parents all wanting the same thing for there kids.We have the best coaches are on LI. These kids are getting the best training in the country. But as the sport has grown so has the competition and the importance of winning. There is so much money to be made in the race for winning,that the ethics of youth sports gets forgotten. Youth Lacrosse NEEDS to go age based!!or at least have some sort of age regulation. It is getting worse out there every season!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

I agree, great post. This is a great sport. Most of the people I have met are good parents all wanting the same thing for there kids.We have the best coaches are on LI. These kids are getting the best training in the country. But as the sport has grown so has the competition and the importance of winning. There is so much money to be made in the race for winning,that the ethics of youth sports gets forgotten. Youth Lacrosse NEEDS to go age based!!or at least have some sort of age regulation. It is getting worse out there every season!!

Unfortunately an age based system will do nothing to end the winning mentality that is prevalent in travel for profit lacrosse, It will not prevent cheating either. USLacrosse has no power or budget to properly maintain a real age based system of check and balance like you see in Soccer and Ice Hockey - and it has no means of penalizing anybody that does cheat. IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

I agree, great post. This is a great sport. Most of the people I have met are good parents all wanting the same thing for there kids.We have the best coaches are on LI. These kids are getting the best training in the country. But as the sport has grown so has the competition and the importance of winning. There is so much money to be made in the race for winning,that the ethics of youth sports gets forgotten. Youth Lacrosse NEEDS to go age based!!or at least have some sort of age regulation. It is getting worse out there every season!!

LI problem is your cutoff for starting school. You might be the only place that has a Jan 1. Sep 1 is more the norm, with most summer boys being held in Pre-K. Nothing to do with sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

I agree, great post. This is a great sport. Most of the people I have met are good parents all wanting the same thing for there kids.We have the best coaches are on LI. These kids are getting the best training in the country. But as the sport has grown so has the competition and the importance of winning. There is so much money to be made in the race for winning,that the ethics of youth sports gets forgotten. Youth Lacrosse NEEDS to go age based!!or at least have some sort of age regulation. It is getting worse out there every season!!

LI problem is your cutoff for starting school. You might be the only place that has a Jan 1. Sep 1 is more the norm, with most summer boys being held in Pre-K. Nothing to do with sports.

This is true and not going to be changed any time soon. However, WSYL gives a reason for teams to be somewhat age based. As lacrosse is spreading out and less concentrated solely in NY and Maryland it will have a greater impact. NY teams are mostly on age. MD teams aren't, which is why they don't participate in WSYL. As the sport grows, Fairyland with their highly "skilled" double holdbacks will continue to move down in prestige and importance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

I agree, great post. This is a great sport. Most of the people I have met are good parents all wanting the same thing for there kids.We have the best coaches are on LI. These kids are getting the best training in the country. But as the sport has grown so has the competition and the importance of winning. There is so much money to be made in the race for winning,that the ethics of youth sports gets forgotten. Youth Lacrosse NEEDS to go age based!!or at least have some sort of age regulation. It is getting worse out there every season!!

LI problem is your cutoff for starting school. You might be the only place that has a Jan 1. Sep 1 is more the norm, with most summer boys being held in Pre-K. Nothing to do with sports.

LI does not have its own cutoff - it is the same for all of NYS. And it's not Jan 1 - it's Dec 1. And an age-based system would make the different cutoff dates irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

I agree, great post. This is a great sport. Most of the people I have met are good parents all wanting the same thing for there kids.We have the best coaches are on LI. These kids are getting the best training in the country. But as the sport has grown so has the competition and the importance of winning. There is so much money to be made in the race for winning,that the ethics of youth sports gets forgotten. Youth Lacrosse NEEDS to go age based!!or at least have some sort of age regulation. It is getting worse out there every season!!

LI problem is your cutoff for starting school. You might be the only place that has a Jan 1. Sep 1 is more the norm, with most summer boys being held in Pre-K. Nothing to do with sports.

This is true and not going to be changed any time soon. However, WSYL gives a reason for teams to be somewhat age based. As lacrosse is spreading out and less concentrated solely in NY and Maryland it will have a greater impact. NY teams are mostly on age. MD teams aren't, which is why they don't participate in WSYL. As the sport grows, Fairyland with their highly "skilled" double holdbacks will continue to move down in prestige and importance.

WSYL is 7th grade for a reason and will die if a team from outside LI doesn't win.

Read "Age and Reclassification. The good the bad the ugly!" Thread.. Every sport is driven by the next level. Youth lacrosse is driven by D1.. According to a post, only1 of the 15 incoming freshmen class was not a holdback. Football major 8th-grade holdbacks & AAU is a total joke. Lacrosse is just late to the game but the game has changed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

I agree, great post. This is a great sport. Most of the people I have met are good parents all wanting the same thing for there kids.We have the best coaches are on LI. These kids are getting the best training in the country. But as the sport has grown so has the competition and the importance of winning. There is so much money to be made in the race for winning,that the ethics of youth sports gets forgotten. Youth Lacrosse NEEDS to go age based!!or at least have some sort of age regulation. It is getting worse out there every season!!

LI problem is your cutoff for starting school. You might be the only place that has a Jan 1. Sep 1 is more the norm, with most summer boys being held in Pre-K. Nothing to do with sports.

This is true and not going to be changed any time soon. However, WSYL gives a reason for teams to be somewhat age based. As lacrosse is spreading out and less concentrated solely in NY and Maryland it will have a greater impact. NY teams are mostly on age. MD teams aren't, which is why they don't participate in WSYL. As the sport grows, Fairyland with their highly "skilled" double holdbacks will continue to move down in prestige and importance.

WSYL is 7th grade for a reason and will die if a team from outside LI doesn't win.

Read "Age and Reclassification. The good the bad the ugly!" Thread.. Every sport is driven by the next level. Youth lacrosse is driven by D1.. According to a post, only1 of the 15 incoming freshmen class was not a holdback. Football major 8th-grade holdbacks & AAU is a total joke. Lacrosse is just late to the game but the game has changed.

That statement is false. If a team from LI does not win the WSYL, it will not die. Please elaborate.
well then make it easy just make it birth year. or Sept 1st. I really don't care what they make it.. But they need to make a rule and enforce it. !!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

I agree, great post. This is a great sport. Most of the people I have met are good parents all wanting the same thing for there kids.We have the best coaches are on LI. These kids are getting the best training in the country. But as the sport has grown so has the competition and the importance of winning. There is so much money to be made in the race for winning,that the ethics of youth sports gets forgotten. Youth Lacrosse NEEDS to go age based!!or at least have some sort of age regulation. It is getting worse out there every season!!

LI problem is your cutoff for starting school. You might be the only place that has a Jan 1. Sep 1 is more the norm, with most summer boys being held in Pre-K. Nothing to do with sports.

This is true and not going to be changed any time soon. However, WSYL gives a reason for teams to be somewhat age based. As lacrosse is spreading out and less concentrated solely in NY and Maryland it will have a greater impact. NY teams are mostly on age. MD teams aren't, which is why they don't participate in WSYL. As the sport grows, Fairyland with their highly "skilled" double holdbacks will continue to move down in prestige and importance.

WSYL is 7th grade for a reason and will die if a team from outside LI doesn't win.

Read "Age and Reclassification. The good the bad the ugly!" Thread.. Every sport is driven by the next level. Youth lacrosse is driven by D1.. According to a post, only1 of the 15 incoming freshmen class was not a holdback. Football major 8th-grade holdbacks & AAU is a total joke. Lacrosse is just late to the game but the game has changed.

"Football major 8th-grade holdbacks & AAU is a total joke" What does this even mean?? "Lacrosse is just late to the game but the game has changed." And, for that matter, what does this mean also??

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

Maybe, but for varsity lax SAs, ~12+% will go on to play in college. For LI players, that number is probably higher. It is the only significant sport other than ice hockey that is in double digits %s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

All this age based vs. grade based talk has ruined this thread. It is like listening to the teacher from Charlie Brown. Waaahhh, waaahh, waaahh......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

That's some poor thinking

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

All this age based vs. grade based talk has ruined this thread. It is like listening to the teacher from Charlie Brown. Waaahhh, waaahh, waaahh......

I think that it should've grade based plus some kids from the grade above so we can win and because Chan said so!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All this age based vs. grade based talk has ruined this thread. It is like listening to the teacher from Charlie Brown. Waaahhh, waaahh, waaahh......

Whiner

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think that it should've grade based plus some kids from the grade above so we can win and because Chan said so!!!!!

Question when you go to a tryout do any of the clubs ask for confirmation of what grade your son is in? Do you even get asked to supply your birth certificate? So they are only going based off of the integrity of the parents...

my kid is going D1
Spoke with Hopkins admissions already.. hes getting all 4s on his NYS common Core exams and reort cards
Only deviation will be if he prefers to go North
He will then Attend Yale.
He is that good and that smart.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

So you’re saying you want your son to play PAL, but not in a town with A team and B team. Great. Stick with that and leave the big boys alone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

So you’re saying you want your son to play PAL, but not in a town with A team and B team. Great. Stick with that and leave the big boys alone.

It will never happen in travel. Kids are recruited by the year they will be entering college. With the new enforcement of the rules you might be better off. Big difference between 14 and 13 years old.. A little less with 16 to 15. Some people will do anything to try and give their kids an advantage. Just get used to it.

As far as fair estimation of the work they put in, STOP. Some kids are just natural athletes and are better. If they are putting in that much work in 5th grade the natural ones will pass them by in 10th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

So you’re saying you want your son to play PAL, but not in a town with A team and B team. Great. Stick with that and leave the big boys alone.

It will never happen in travel. Kids are recruited by the year they will be entering college. With the new enforcement of the rules you might be better off. Big difference between 14 and 13 years old.. A little less with 16 to 15. Some people will do anything to try and give their kids an advantage. Just get used to it.

As far as fair estimation of the work they put in, STOP. Some kids are just natural athletes and are better. If they are putting in that much work in 5th grade the natural ones will pass them by in 10th grade.

This is a 2025 board - if you read the older age boards, which I do, because I also have a 2021, the support for age-based play is advocated largely for all pre-HS aged players, and there are actually a larger number of boys playing travel lacrosse below the HS ages than within the HS ages. While there is less concern about age-based play for HS-ages, the whole recruiting by grade argument is so hollow considering that every other major sport is age-based, and somehow all of those sports' college coaches are more than able to recruit accordingly, and they do so across a pool of student athletes that dwarf the number of lacrosse players. Considering that all of the other major sports are age-based, you realize that your grade-based argument essentially boils down to all of those sports "got it wrong"?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

The studies and support for age-based play in youth athletics iare considerable (Google is your friend!) and the very reason why EVERY.OTHER.SPORT has gone age-based. That, plus there is no fact-based argument for grade-based play for pre-HS ages!

It's such a ridiculous conversation. If one 6th grader is 12 .another 6th grader is a real smart kid and he was pushed ahead and is 10. You don't see how those 2 kids playing youth sports against each other is unfair. Most normal people would see that. I wouldn't want my 12 year old dominating 10 year olds and I wouldn't want my 10 year old getting beat up by 12 year olds. There really isn't much else to say. Kids being the same age is the way to go, it's called fair competition.

Agree 100% with your explanation on aged based vs grade base. I also have a 2021 and have a few boys in HS and college. By the time they are in HS, it does not matter. The athletes will be recognized and those hold-backs who were the stars as younger kids do get passed by very quickly. Using the aged base vs grade base argument is a ridiculous arguement for people looking for excuses.

At this age, just enjoy the ride and watching them play. It will be over before you know it. The attention or interest of the players do change as they get older and move up in the school system. They may not want to play in HS. It is not about the parents.

Finally, my College son did play for one of the excellent HS teams. Did not want to play in college. Goes to a major Div 1 school. The lax coach knew him and asked him to walk on. Said NO because he wants to enjoy his college career and not worry about going to practice and working out six days a week at 6 am. I give him a lot of credit and maturity.

Again, sit back and enjoy the ride and watching them play, grow and mature. Great experience.

Chan has figured it out and has it best! No rules at all, mix age limits and grade based so we can win!!!!!!

So much for his Navy honor code. What a [ChillLaxin]! And don't get me started on the [ChillLaxin] parents. And my son is on this team and plays. It's a disgrace.

Worst part is the "magic" happened after they took our $ and after all of the other tryouts so the [ChillLaxin] trapped us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chan has figured it out and has it best! No rules at all, mix age limits and grade based so we can win!!!!!!

So much for his Navy honor code. What a [ChillLaxin]! And don't get me started on the [ChillLaxin] parents. And my son is on this team and plays. It's a disgrace.

Worst part is the "magic" happened after they took our $ and after all of the other tryouts so the [ChillLaxin] trapped us.

The town hall is this week. Walk up to the directors and voice your concerns. Wouldn't that be better since your the client. We all forget we are the clients and treated as such. No where else would pay to be so upset.

I’ve never read such weak [ChillLaxin] in my life. You are raising your kid to be a wimp. Let him play against older kids just like LI kids have been doing since club lax started. It’s worked pretty well so far. If you can’t accept that there are kids better than your son, then you are in for a lot a god darn disappointment. Tell your kid to work harder and stop making excuses. Stop being such a vagina.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chan has figured it out and has it best! No rules at all, mix age limits and grade based so we can win!!!!!!

So much for his Navy honor code. What a [ChillLaxin]! And don't get me started on the [ChillLaxin] parents. And my son is on this team and plays. It's a disgrace.

Worst part is the "magic" happened after they took our $ and after all of the other tryouts so the [ChillLaxin] trapped us.

He has figured it out. Winning equals $$$. Large rosters equal more $$$. It amazes me people pay money for this. Okay, the practices may be amazing but to spend a weekend watching your child stand on the sidelines is really freaking crazy. Just crazy. All so Chan can play 2024s and fly in kids from Texas. Seriously, you people are out of your minds unless you've got one of the 13-15 kids that play. To the parents of the other 15, smack yourself. There are 27 other teams on LI that your kid would actually get to play lacrosse on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

So you’re saying you want your son to play PAL, but not in a town with A team and B team. Great. Stick with that and leave the big boys alone.

blaaaaaaaaaa! you did not just say big boys?? This is a 2025 thread. I played a sport in college. And again, do not care if my kids do. But presently these kids are playing a YOUTH sport that requires enforced age requirements. As far as my kid playing just PAL. not quite.... right now I have him playing club with 2024's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

So you’re saying you want your son to play PAL, but not in a town with A team and B team. Great. Stick with that and leave the big boys alone.

blaaaaaaaaaa! you did not just say big boys?? This is a 2025 thread. I played a sport in college. And again, do not care if my kids do. But presently these kids are playing a YOUTH sport that requires enforced age requirements. As far as my kid playing just PAL. not quite.... right now I have him playing club with 2024's.

The team he plays on must stink. And you played in college? Going to practice at NJIT doesn't cut it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

That’s a rational and credible retort. It makes solid sense to most of us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

So you’re saying you want your son to play PAL, but not in a town with A team and B team. Great. Stick with that and leave the big boys alone.

blaaaaaaaaaa! you did not just say big boys?? This is a 2025 thread. I played a sport in college. And again, do not care if my kids do. But presently these kids are playing a YOUTH sport that requires enforced age requirements. As far as my kid playing just PAL. not quite.... right now I have him playing club with 2024's.

You’re a clown. Let me ask you something. When Junior get his skirt dirty, do you wash it or just buy him a new one? “fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in”??? Sounds like your ego is getting in the way. Don’t worry if he’s a short little Italian kid, I’m sure he’ll get to 5’5” just like his sorry [ChillLaxin] dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

This is such a dumb post. Every single other youth sport that uses an aged-based system has procedures in place for kids to play up if that is what the family wants and what the coaches want. Depending on the sport/league/level of play there may be a formal application process, but nonetheless, kids who are capable of playing against older kids, and have parents and coaches who agree that it is appropriate, can play up. Thus, your exceptional 10 year old (this is the 2025 board, so I am assuming your child is 10, especially since you say he will be younger in HS and is competing now against holdbacks) will still be able to challenge and push himself agains older kids if that is what everyone wants. But the large majority of parents want their children playing against kids of similar age and skill level.

The work ethic thing is comical. Are you implying that if he played against kids his same age he would not need to work because he is so good. Again, if this is true, than in an age based system, have him play up. What you are proposing is selfishness taken to an extreme. Essentially you are saying that because your 10 year old can play well against older boys, all other 10 year olds must also play against older boys. Anyone with a brain in their head and the ability to observe youths playing sports knows that the large majority of kids this age will see their performances deteriorate very quickly when thrown in with older kids. Once this happens, they lose interest in the sport, and move on to something else. There is a reason the best lax players in the world can't earn a living without getting a real job - its lack of interest in the sport. Age based youth play opens up the sport to more levels of athletes, who will more likely grow up to be paying consumers of lacrosse than if they didn't play lacrosse.

Also, its beyond stupid to say that 10 year olds need to play against 11 and 12 year olds because when they are 16 they will be playing against 17 and 18 year olds. Every rational human being knows that after the full onset of puberty, there is very little advantage left for the 17 and 18 year old over the 16 year old. Do you let your 10 year old drive your car because he will need to get ready for driving when he is 16?

Lacrosse should do what hockey does. All strictly age based until 16. At 16, the best players (those on a D1 track) can be selected for a junior team, which comprises of players age 16-20. The remainder who still wish to play can stay at age based. Very exceptional 15 year olds can apply for entry to juniors like John Tavares did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

This is such a dumb post. Every single other youth sport that uses an aged-based system has procedures in place for kids to play up if that is what the family wants and what the coaches want. Depending on the sport/league/level of play there may be a formal application process, but nonetheless, kids who are capable of playing against older kids, and have parents and coaches who agree that it is appropriate, can play up. Thus, your exceptional 10 year old (this is the 2025 board, so I am assuming your child is 10, especially since you say he will be younger in HS and is competing now against holdbacks) will still be able to challenge and push himself agains older kids if that is what everyone wants. But the large majority of parents want their children playing against kids of similar age and skill level.

The work ethic thing is comical. Are you implying that if he played against kids his same age he would not need to work because he is so good. Again, if this is true, than in an age based system, have him play up. What you are proposing is selfishness taken to an extreme. Essentially you are saying that because your 10 year old can play well against older boys, all other 10 year olds must also play against older boys. Anyone with a brain in their head and the ability to observe youths playing sports knows that the large majority of kids this age will see their performances deteriorate very quickly when thrown in with older kids. Once this happens, they lose interest in the sport, and move on to something else. There is a reason the best lax players in the world can't earn a living without getting a real job - its lack of interest in the sport. Age based youth play opens up the sport to more levels of athletes, who will more likely grow up to be paying consumers of lacrosse than if they didn't play lacrosse.

Also, its beyond stupid to say that 10 year olds need to play against 11 and 12 year olds because when they are 16 they will be playing against 17 and 18 year olds. Every rational human being knows that after the full onset of puberty, there is very little advantage left for the 17 and 18 year old over the 16 year old. Do you let your 10 year old drive your car because he will need to get ready for driving when he is 16?

Lacrosse should do what hockey does. All strictly age based until 16. At 16, the best players (those on a D1 track) can be selected for a junior team, which comprises of players age 16-20. The remainder who still wish to play can stay at age based. Very exceptional 15 year olds can apply for entry to juniors like John Tavares did.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

This is such a dumb post. Every single other youth sport that uses an aged-based system has procedures in place for kids to play up if that is what the family wants and what the coaches want. Depending on the sport/league/level of play there may be a formal application process, but nonetheless, kids who are capable of playing against older kids, and have parents and coaches who agree that it is appropriate, can play up. Thus, your exceptional 10 year old (this is the 2025 board, so I am assuming your child is 10, especially since you say he will be younger in HS and is competing now against holdbacks) will still be able to challenge and push himself agains older kids if that is what everyone wants. But the large majority of parents want their children playing against kids of similar age and skill level.

The work ethic thing is comical. Are you implying that if he played against kids his same age he would not need to work because he is so good. Again, if this is true, than in an age based system, have him play up. What you are proposing is selfishness taken to an extreme. Essentially you are saying that because your 10 year old can play well against older boys, all other 10 year olds must also play against older boys. Anyone with a brain in their head and the ability to observe youths playing sports knows that the large majority of kids this age will see their performances deteriorate very quickly when thrown in with older kids. Once this happens, they lose interest in the sport, and move on to something else. There is a reason the best lax players in the world can't earn a living without getting a real job - its lack of interest in the sport. Age based youth play opens up the sport to more levels of athletes, who will more likely grow up to be paying consumers of lacrosse than if they didn't play lacrosse.

Also, its beyond stupid to say that 10 year olds need to play against 11 and 12 year olds because when they are 16 they will be playing against 17 and 18 year olds. Every rational human being knows that after the full onset of puberty, there is very little advantage left for the 17 and 18 year old over the 16 year old. Do you let your 10 year old drive your car because he will need to get ready for driving when he is 16?

Lacrosse should do what hockey does. All strictly age based until 16. At 16, the best players (those on a D1 track) can be selected for a junior team, which comprises of players age 16-20. The remainder who still wish to play can stay at age based. Very exceptional 15 year olds can apply for entry to juniors like John Tavares did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

This is such a dumb post. Every single other youth sport that uses an aged-based system has procedures in place for kids to play up if that is what the family wants and what the coaches want. Depending on the sport/league/level of play there may be a formal application process, but nonetheless, kids who are capable of playing against older kids, and have parents and coaches who agree that it is appropriate, can play up. Thus, your exceptional 10 year old (this is the 2025 board, so I am assuming your child is 10, especially since you say he will be younger in HS and is competing now against holdbacks) will still be able to challenge and push himself agains older kids if that is what everyone wants. But the large majority of parents want their children playing against kids of similar age and skill level.

The work ethic thing is comical. Are you implying that if he played against kids his same age he would not need to work because he is so good. Again, if this is true, than in an age based system, have him play up. What you are proposing is selfishness taken to an extreme. Essentially you are saying that because your 10 year old can play well against older boys, all other 10 year olds must also play against older boys. Anyone with a brain in their head and the ability to observe youths playing sports knows that the large majority of kids this age will see their performances deteriorate very quickly when thrown in with older kids. Once this happens, they lose interest in the sport, and move on to something else. There is a reason the best lax players in the world can't earn a living without getting a real job - its lack of interest in the sport. Age based youth play opens up the sport to more levels of athletes, who will more likely grow up to be paying consumers of lacrosse than if they didn't play lacrosse.

Also, its beyond stupid to say that 10 year olds need to play against 11 and 12 year olds because when they are 16 they will be playing against 17 and 18 year olds. Every rational human being knows that after the full onset of puberty, there is very little advantage left for the 17 and 18 year old over the 16 year old. Do you let your 10 year old drive your car because he will need to get ready for driving when he is 16?

Lacrosse should do what hockey does. All strictly age based until 16. At 16, the best players (those on a D1 track) can be selected for a junior team, which comprises of players age 16-20. The remainder who still wish to play can stay at age based. Very exceptional 15 year olds can apply for entry to juniors like John Tavares did.

Thank you!

The gentleman did not say his kid was great, he said he is finding the advantage for his kid playing against older kids, everything he said is exactly what I went through with my son who was on age and graduated HS at 17. he was always playing against bigger, stronger and older kids and it made him well prepared when he started school ball.

As for Hockey you are comparing apples to oranges since the top level players stay within USA Hockey and the best players on LI do not even play school hockey so they never wind up playing against older kids. In lacrosse you have 8th graders playing varsity in some towns so you can have 14 year old playing 18 year old... and for you 2025 parents, that is not that far away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

This is such a dumb post. Every single other youth sport that uses an aged-based system has procedures in place for kids to play up if that is what the family wants and what the coaches want. Depending on the sport/league/level of play there may be a formal application process, but nonetheless, kids who are capable of playing against older kids, and have parents and coaches who agree that it is appropriate, can play up. Thus, your exceptional 10 year old (this is the 2025 board, so I am assuming your child is 10, especially since you say he will be younger in HS and is competing now against holdbacks) will still be able to challenge and push himself agains older kids if that is what everyone wants. But the large majority of parents want their children playing against kids of similar age and skill level.

The work ethic thing is comical. Are you implying that if he played against kids his same age he would not need to work because he is so good. Again, if this is true, than in an age based system, have him play up. What you are proposing is selfishness taken to an extreme. Essentially you are saying that because your 10 year old can play well against older boys, all other 10 year olds must also play against older boys. Anyone with a brain in their head and the ability to observe youths playing sports knows that the large majority of kids this age will see their performances deteriorate very quickly when thrown in with older kids. Once this happens, they lose interest in the sport, and move on to something else. There is a reason the best lax players in the world can't earn a living without getting a real job - its lack of interest in the sport. Age based youth play opens up the sport to more levels of athletes, who will more likely grow up to be paying consumers of lacrosse than if they didn't play lacrosse.

Also, its beyond stupid to say that 10 year olds need to play against 11 and 12 year olds because when they are 16 they will be playing against 17 and 18 year olds. Every rational human being knows that after the full onset of puberty, there is very little advantage left for the 17 and 18 year old over the 16 year old. Do you let your 10 year old drive your car because he will need to get ready for driving when he is 16?

Lacrosse should do what hockey does. All strictly age based until 16. At 16, the best players (those on a D1 track) can be selected for a junior team, which comprises of players age 16-20. The remainder who still wish to play can stay at age based. Very exceptional 15 year olds can apply for entry to juniors like John Tavares did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

This is such a dumb post. Every single other youth sport that uses an aged-based system has procedures in place for kids to play up if that is what the family wants and what the coaches want. Depending on the sport/league/level of play there may be a formal application process, but nonetheless, kids who are capable of playing against older kids, and have parents and coaches who agree that it is appropriate, can play up. Thus, your exceptional 10 year old (this is the 2025 board, so I am assuming your child is 10, especially since you say he will be younger in HS and is competing now against holdbacks) will still be able to challenge and push himself agains older kids if that is what everyone wants. But the large majority of parents want their children playing against kids of similar age and skill level.

The work ethic thing is comical. Are you implying that if he played against kids his same age he would not need to work because he is so good. Again, if this is true, than in an age based system, have him play up. What you are proposing is selfishness taken to an extreme. Essentially you are saying that because your 10 year old can play well against older boys, all other 10 year olds must also play against older boys. Anyone with a brain in their head and the ability to observe youths playing sports knows that the large majority of kids this age will see their performances deteriorate very quickly when thrown in with older kids. Once this happens, they lose interest in the sport, and move on to something else. There is a reason the best lax players in the world can't earn a living without getting a real job - its lack of interest in the sport. Age based youth play opens up the sport to more levels of athletes, who will more likely grow up to be paying consumers of lacrosse than if they didn't play lacrosse.

Also, its beyond stupid to say that 10 year olds need to play against 11 and 12 year olds because when they are 16 they will be playing against 17 and 18 year olds. Every rational human being knows that after the full onset of puberty, there is very little advantage left for the 17 and 18 year old over the 16 year old. Do you let your 10 year old drive your car because he will need to get ready for driving when he is 16?

Lacrosse should do what hockey does. All strictly age based until 16. At 16, the best players (those on a D1 track) can be selected for a junior team, which comprises of players age 16-20. The remainder who still wish to play can stay at age based. Very exceptional 15 year olds can apply for entry to juniors like John Tavares did.

Thank you!

The gentleman did not say his kid was great, he said he is finding the advantage for his kid playing against older kids, everything he said is exactly what I went through with my son who was on age and graduated HS at 17. he was always playing against bigger, stronger and older kids and it made him well prepared when he started school ball.

As for Hockey you are comparing apples to oranges since the top level players stay within USA Hockey and the best players on LI do not even play school hockey so they never wind up playing against older kids. In lacrosse you have 8th graders playing varsity in some towns so you can have 14 year old playing 18 year old... and for you 2025 parents, that is not that far away.

Again, totally missing the point: no one ever has said that a player cannot play up. If a player is that good in an age-based system, they can do what similar talented athletes do in EVERY OTHER sport - play up! Your argument (or his) turns that idea on its head: everyone should play up for the benefit of the few and the disadvantage of the many, IE, playing up should be the individuals choice, NOT playing down. Lastly, the number of 8th graders playing varsity is so small as to not even be relevant to the discussion, but even for those few that do, it is their decision to make, so fully fits within the point i just made above. (And many of the best kids in hockey go and play in junior hockey in the US or Canada, of which there are multiple tiers, and the players range in age from 16 - 21 - so, not following how the fact that they don't play school hockey makes any difference.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

This is such a dumb post. Every single other youth sport that uses an aged-based system has procedures in place for kids to play up if that is what the family wants and what the coaches want. Depending on the sport/league/level of play there may be a formal application process, but nonetheless, kids who are capable of playing against older kids, and have parents and coaches who agree that it is appropriate, can play up. Thus, your exceptional 10 year old (this is the 2025 board, so I am assuming your child is 10, especially since you say he will be younger in HS and is competing now against holdbacks) will still be able to challenge and push himself agains older kids if that is what everyone wants. But the large majority of parents want their children playing against kids of similar age and skill level.

The work ethic thing is comical. Are you implying that if he played against kids his same age he would not need to work because he is so good. Again, if this is true, than in an age based system, have him play up. What you are proposing is selfishness taken to an extreme. Essentially you are saying that because your 10 year old can play well against older boys, all other 10 year olds must also play against older boys. Anyone with a brain in their head and the ability to observe youths playing sports knows that the large majority of kids this age will see their performances deteriorate very quickly when thrown in with older kids. Once this happens, they lose interest in the sport, and move on to something else. There is a reason the best lax players in the world can't earn a living without getting a real job - its lack of interest in the sport. Age based youth play opens up the sport to more levels of athletes, who will more likely grow up to be paying consumers of lacrosse than if they didn't play lacrosse.

Also, its beyond stupid to say that 10 year olds need to play against 11 and 12 year olds because when they are 16 they will be playing against 17 and 18 year olds. Every rational human being knows that after the full onset of puberty, there is very little advantage left for the 17 and 18 year old over the 16 year old. Do you let your 10 year old drive your car because he will need to get ready for driving when he is 16?

Lacrosse should do what hockey does. All strictly age based until 16. At 16, the best players (those on a D1 track) can be selected for a junior team, which comprises of players age 16-20. The remainder who still wish to play can stay at age based. Very exceptional 15 year olds can apply for entry to juniors like John Tavares did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a third rate sport in NCAA, more people at a bad D3 football game than a D1 Lacrosse game. Realistically, no one cares, nor will they ever care. Sport is funded by football and basketball, even baseball throws a few bucks Lacrosse way, that is the truth. No one cares but you. But I still love it

SPOT ON! Love the sport but the facts are the facts. These loons are also entertaining.

Your missing the point!! My kids will all be going to college .I don't care if my kids plays lax in college. I want age based for a variety reasons ( fun, developing, safety, fair estimation of the work they put in.,.But scholarships are not one of them. Youth sports all need to have enforced age requirements.

I disagree. I think grade-based makes the most sense.

I can't wait to hear the basis for this position...!

I really want to hear the logic..why would you choose age based for a youth sport?

Simply put, because very soon my son will be playing middle school lacrosse, and after that, JV and Varsity. He will not be playing against kids his age... many/most will be older. This will better prepare him for that. Additionally, he is developing an impressive work ethic because he needs to work on his own time to take playing time away from the holdbacks on his team. And lastly, because I’m raising him not to make excuses when things don’t go the way he wants. I’m not concerned with T-shirts. I want him to develop into a hard working, independent adult. Not a whiny little snowflake who protests when he doesn’t have a “safe place” for writings in his journal.

This is such a dumb post. Every single other youth sport that uses an aged-based system has procedures in place for kids to play up if that is what the family wants and what the coaches want. Depending on the sport/league/level of play there may be a formal application process, but nonetheless, kids who are capable of playing against older kids, and have parents and coaches who agree that it is appropriate, can play up. Thus, your exceptional 10 year old (this is the 2025 board, so I am assuming your child is 10, especially since you say he will be younger in HS and is competing now against holdbacks) will still be able to challenge and push himself agains older kids if that is what everyone wants. But the large majority of parents want their children playing against kids of similar age and skill level.

The work ethic thing is comical. Are you implying that if he played against kids his same age he would not need to work because he is so good. Again, if this is true, than in an age based system, have him play up. What you are proposing is selfishness taken to an extreme. Essentially you are saying that because your 10 year old can play well against older boys, all other 10 year olds must also play against older boys. Anyone with a brain in their head and the ability to observe youths playing sports knows that the large majority of kids this age will see their performances deteriorate very quickly when thrown in with older kids. Once this happens, they lose interest in the sport, and move on to something else. There is a reason the best lax players in the world can't earn a living without getting a real job - its lack of interest in the sport. Age based youth play opens up the sport to more levels of athletes, who will more likely grow up to be paying consumers of lacrosse than if they didn't play lacrosse.

Also, its beyond stupid to say that 10 year olds need to play against 11 and 12 year olds because when they are 16 they will be playing against 17 and 18 year olds. Every rational human being knows that after the full onset of puberty, there is very little advantage left for the 17 and 18 year old over the 16 year old. Do you let your 10 year old drive your car because he will need to get ready for driving when he is 16?

Lacrosse should do what hockey does. All strictly age based until 16. At 16, the best players (those on a D1 track) can be selected for a junior team, which comprises of players age 16-20. The remainder who still wish to play can stay at age based. Very exceptional 15 year olds can apply for entry to juniors like John Tavares did.

Thank you!

The gentleman did not say his kid was great, he said he is finding the advantage for his kid playing against older kids, everything he said is exactly what I went through with my son who was on age and graduated HS at 17. he was always playing against bigger, stronger and older kids and it made him well prepared when he started school ball.

As for Hockey you are comparing apples to oranges since the top level players stay within USA Hockey and the best players on LI do not even play school hockey so they never wind up playing against older kids. In lacrosse you have 8th graders playing varsity in some towns so you can have 14 year old playing 18 year old... and for you 2025 parents, that is not that far away.

You know nothing about hockey. What does "stay within USA Hockey" even mean? If you knew anything you would know that 'top level players' play junior hockey where players range from 16-20, so they very much play against older kids.

As for your son, it's great that he played against older kids when he was a youth. Why should that be forced on families who don't want that for their kid?

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

Such an endless whine fest. Again, the END game for Lacrosse is College, not pros, not Team USA just college. The sport is on a very limited budget. Coaches make minimal salaries, assistants make a barely living wage. Why do you think there are so many prospect days? Our kids play a regional game, with little interest outside our world. If you have been to a D1 game you will see parents and family members. About 70-100 people. If the weather is nice. Go to a D3 football game, 2-3000 people. So keep dreaming but it’s not going to change, ever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Such an endless whine fest. Again, the END game for Lacrosse is College, not pros, not Team USA just college. The sport is on a very limited budget. Coaches make minimal salaries, assistants make a barely living wage. Why do you think there are so many prospect days? Our kids play a regional game, with little interest outside our world. If you have been to a D1 game you will see parents and family members. About 70-100 people. If the weather is nice. Go to a D3 football game, 2-3000 people. So keep dreaming but it’s not going to change, ever.

There are plenty of other college sports that have similar (dis)interest, along with the same 'bleak' situation with respect to coaches and comp, post-college opportunities, etc. Yet, they all deal with an age-based systems in the same way that big sports do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

OK - so let me bore you further . . .

It's already been hashed out, but the two sports have more similarity than not for a number of reasons - just because you declare otherwise with no reasons presented for doing so means what exactly . . ?!!

Your son(s) didn't "need" to play up because, in essence, the holdback situation is forcing everyone to play up to some degree, with that forced situation increasing relative to the increasing number of holdbacks each year. That forced situation may have helped your sons and others, but it likely has also hurt others; maintaining that situation as the status quo is apathetic. And your approach to making this a pure binary argument - deal with it = strong vs not accepting it = weak - is over simplified and intellectually lazy thinking. It may suit your 'argument', but it doesn't hold up well when you honestly assess all of the variables that go into a child's development.

All of the people here have sons playing, they are dealing with the current situation, but also have a desire to make the system better - you can actually do both! Novel concept there, huh?! Some will only talk about it, others may be more active in that regard - that goes for anything, but that's how things evolve. I advocate for age-based play as a coach who sees that an age-based system will be better for all players - I am not sure that a change will impact my sons, as both are strong players on good teams today - again, probably a novel concept for you. Those "obscure" (NOT) studies have guided every other sport to come to a decision that age-based play was the best system for at least pre-HS aged SAs - EVERY SINGLE one! Those sports are all further along the time and maturity curve of lacrosse - they ALL dealt with these issues previously, and adapted to create a better experience, and the athletes being turned out by those systems have not lagged. Yet, your position is basically they ALL got it wrong! That's a pretty arrogant line of thinking, although not surprising within lacrosse - there is fair amount of elitism present in the sport. And like most elitism, it's usually not borne out by rational facts, but the elitism persists because the status quo is maintained.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Such an endless whine fest. Again, the END game for Lacrosse is College, not pros, not Team USA just college. The sport is on a very limited budget. Coaches make minimal salaries, assistants make a barely living wage. Why do you think there are so many prospect days? Our kids play a regional game, with little interest outside our world. If you have been to a D1 game you will see parents and family members. About 70-100 people. If the weather is nice. Go to a D3 football game, 2-3000 people. So keep dreaming but it’s not going to change, ever.

AGE based..Never say ever!!!! Sport growing at a rapid pace. need Youth age regulations for so many reasons...Stop with the College and HS [ChillLaxin].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

OK - so let me bore you further . . .

It's already been hashed out, but the two sports have more similarity than not for a number of reasons - just because you declare otherwise with no reasons presented for doing so means what exactly . . ?!!

Your son(s) didn't "need" to play up because, in essence, the holdback situation is forcing everyone to play up to some degree, with that forced situation increasing relative to the increasing number of holdbacks each year. That forced situation may have helped your sons and others, but it likely has also hurt others; maintaining that situation as the status quo is apathetic. And your approach to making this a pure binary argument - deal with it = strong vs not accepting it = weak - is over simplified and intellectually lazy thinking. It may suit your 'argument', but it doesn't hold up well when you honestly assess all of the variables that go into a child's development.

All of the people here have sons playing, they are dealing with the current situation, but also have a desire to make the system better - you can actually do both! Novel concept there, huh?! Some will only talk about it, others may be more active in that regard - that goes for anything, but that's how things evolve. I advocate for age-based play as a coach who sees that an age-based system will be better for all players - I am not sure that a change will impact my sons, as both are strong players on good teams today - again, probably a novel concept for you. Those "obscure" (NOT) studies have guided every other sport to come to a decision that age-based play was the best system for at least pre-HS aged SAs - EVERY SINGLE one! Those sports are all further along the time and maturity curve of lacrosse - they ALL dealt with these issues previously, and adapted to create a better experience, and the athletes being turned out by those systems have not lagged. Yet, your position is basically they ALL got it wrong! That's a pretty arrogant line of thinking, although not surprising within lacrosse - there is fair amount of elitism present in the sport. And like most elitism, it's usually not borne out by rational facts, but the elitism persists because the status quo is maintained.

Social Darwinism at its finest. For every study you find, I can find one to the contrary.

Excuses are for the weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

Hard to know in an anonymous board who is posting what but this boring and repetitive argument has been debunked over and over again. Basically, you are saying that the current system has helped your boys and made them better players and men. That is great, and I am sure it is accurate. No one is trying to take this experience away from you, or from the next generation of families like you. But what is ignored over and over again by you and maybe others is that under an age based system, you can still have the same experience. You simply send an email to your coach that says, in sum and substance: "Dear Coach, I believe that my son Johnny would benefit from playing on the 2006 team instead of the 2007 team. Playing up will help him grown as a person, make him work harder, and challenge him more. I believe he has the skill and natural ability to play against older kids and will be an asset to the team. Thank you." If the coach/director agrees, than it will happen.

An age based system is a win/win for everyone. Its as plain as the nose on your face. I really think that the persons who espouse the virtues of the current system are just simply club directors/prep school coaches/college coaches that benefit from the holdback pipeline, and are worried that in an age based system, talent will be more spread out, and they will lose their hold on the sport.

As for age based systems leading to greater revenue for college and pro teams/players (pro only), yes it will help. Right now, the youth travel circuit is not set up to work for the more average athlete, whom are more numerous than the elite athlete. The average athlete is lost playing against older kids, and no amount of toughness or wall ball is going to make that kid faster, quicker or more aggressive. In an age based system, the tent can be greatly enlarged, and through the use of B, A, AA, and AAA divisions, more skill levels and paying customers can be accommodated. These are your future MLL ticket buyers, and media consumers. And of course, the best athletes can play in an older division if they and the coaches wish it to be so.

The people who complain about comparisons to hockey are probably persons not involved in youth hockey. Using strict age based play, coupled with multiple talent levels, it is easy (much easier than in lacrosse) to find competitive games and tournaments. My kids have played against hockey teams from MD, PA, and MA on many occasions. Not once has any of these teams seemed older, bigger or more mature than our team. And the games have been competitive because teams at similar levels are matched up. But yet in lacrosse these three states, noted for their holdbacks, routinely field bigger, older and more mature players. And the games are usually a mess - either my son's team gets killed, or we win in a sloppy game against older, but less skilled opponents that gets needlessly chippy. The experience with the former is much better than with the later.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

Hard to know in an anonymous board who is posting what but this boring and repetitive argument has been debunked over and over again. Basically, you are saying that the current system has helped your boys and made them better players and men. That is great, and I am sure it is accurate. No one is trying to take this experience away from you, or from the next generation of families like you. But what is ignored over and over again by you and maybe others is that under an age based system, you can still have the same experience. You simply send an email to your coach that says, in sum and substance: "Dear Coach, I believe that my son Johnny would benefit from playing on the 2006 team instead of the 2007 team. Playing up will help him grown as a person, make him work harder, and challenge him more. I believe he has the skill and natural ability to play against older kids and will be an asset to the team. Thank you." If the coach/director agrees, than it will happen.

An age based system is a win/win for everyone. Its as plain as the nose on your face. I really think that the persons who espouse the virtues of the current system are just simply club directors/prep school coaches/college coaches that benefit from the holdback pipeline, and are worried that in an age based system, talent will be more spread out, and they will lose their hold on the sport.

As for age based systems leading to greater revenue for college and pro teams/players (pro only), yes it will help. Right now, the youth travel circuit is not set up to work for the more average athlete, whom are more numerous than the elite athlete. The average athlete is lost playing against older kids, and no amount of toughness or wall ball is going to make that kid faster, quicker or more aggressive. In an age based system, the tent can be greatly enlarged, and through the use of B, A, AA, and AAA divisions, more skill levels and paying customers can be accommodated. These are your future MLL ticket buyers, and media consumers. And of course, the best athletes can play in an older division if they and the coaches wish it to be so.

The people who complain about comparisons to hockey are probably persons not involved in youth hockey. Using strict age based play, coupled with multiple talent levels, it is easy (much easier than in lacrosse) to find competitive games and tournaments. My kids have played against hockey teams from MD, PA, and MA on many occasions. Not once has any of these teams seemed older, bigger or more mature than our team. And the games have been competitive because teams at similar levels are matched up. But yet in lacrosse these three states, noted for their holdbacks, routinely field bigger, older and more mature players. And the games are usually a mess - either my son's team gets killed, or we win in a sloppy game against older, but less skilled opponents that gets needlessly chippy. The experience with the former is much better than with the later.

Thank you!!! This is one of the best posts I have seen on this thread ever. Hope my kid is able to play with your son one day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

Troll,

No one cares if you are bored!

I've seen your boys play, the older ones were terrible and they spent their time rolling their eyes at what a jerk you always acted like whenever you showed up at games or practice. Now they just despise you. The younger one is marginally better as a result of having older brothers, but he hates you as well.

Who can blame them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

Troll,

No one cares if you are bored!

I've seen your boys play, the older ones were terrible and they spent their time rolling their eyes at what a jerk you always acted like whenever you showed up at games or practice. Now they just despise you. The younger one is marginally better as a result of having older brothers, but he hates you as well.

Who can blame them?

That's funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

Hard to know in an anonymous board who is posting what but this boring and repetitive argument has been debunked over and over again. Basically, you are saying that the current system has helped your boys and made them better players and men. That is great, and I am sure it is accurate. No one is trying to take this experience away from you, or from the next generation of families like you. But what is ignored over and over again by you and maybe others is that under an age based system, you can still have the same experience. You simply send an email to your coach that says, in sum and substance: "Dear Coach, I believe that my son Johnny would benefit from playing on the 2006 team instead of the 2007 team. Playing up will help him grown as a person, make him work harder, and challenge him more. I believe he has the skill and natural ability to play against older kids and will be an asset to the team. Thank you." If the coach/director agrees, than it will happen.

An age based system is a win/win for everyone. Its as plain as the nose on your face. I really think that the persons who espouse the virtues of the current system are just simply club directors/prep school coaches/college coaches that benefit from the holdback pipeline, and are worried that in an age based system, talent will be more spread out, and they will lose their hold on the sport.

As for age based systems leading to greater revenue for college and pro teams/players (pro only), yes it will help. Right now, the youth travel circuit is not set up to work for the more average athlete, whom are more numerous than the elite athlete. The average athlete is lost playing against older kids, and no amount of toughness or wall ball is going to make that kid faster, quicker or more aggressive. In an age based system, the tent can be greatly enlarged, and through the use of B, A, AA, and AAA divisions, more skill levels and paying customers can be accommodated. These are your future MLL ticket buyers, and media consumers. And of course, the best athletes can play in an older division if they and the coaches wish it to be so.

The people who complain about comparisons to hockey are probably persons not involved in youth hockey. Using strict age based play, coupled with multiple talent levels, it is easy (much easier than in lacrosse) to find competitive games and tournaments. My kids have played against hockey teams from MD, PA, and MA on many occasions. Not once has any of these teams seemed older, bigger or more mature than our team. And the games have been competitive because teams at similar levels are matched up. But yet in lacrosse these three states, noted for their holdbacks, routinely field bigger, older and more mature players. And the games are usually a mess - either my son's team gets killed, or we win in a sloppy game against older, but less skilled opponents that gets needlessly chippy. The experience with the former is much better than with the later.

Thank you!!! This is one of the best posts I have seen on this thread ever. Hope my kid is able to play with your son one day.

If he does they’ll mostly likely be playing with dolls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

Hard to know in an anonymous board who is posting what but this boring and repetitive argument has been debunked over and over again. Basically, you are saying that the current system has helped your boys and made them better players and men. That is great, and I am sure it is accurate. No one is trying to take this experience away from you, or from the next generation of families like you. But what is ignored over and over again by you and maybe others is that under an age based system, you can still have the same experience. You simply send an email to your coach that says, in sum and substance: "Dear Coach, I believe that my son Johnny would benefit from playing on the 2006 team instead of the 2007 team. Playing up will help him grown as a person, make him work harder, and challenge him more. I believe he has the skill and natural ability to play against older kids and will be an asset to the team. Thank you." If the coach/director agrees, than it will happen.

An age based system is a win/win for everyone. Its as plain as the nose on your face. I really think that the persons who espouse the virtues of the current system are just simply club directors/prep school coaches/college coaches that benefit from the holdback pipeline, and are worried that in an age based system, talent will be more spread out, and they will lose their hold on the sport.

As for age based systems leading to greater revenue for college and pro teams/players (pro only), yes it will help. Right now, the youth travel circuit is not set up to work for the more average athlete, whom are more numerous than the elite athlete. The average athlete is lost playing against older kids, and no amount of toughness or wall ball is going to make that kid faster, quicker or more aggressive. In an age based system, the tent can be greatly enlarged, and through the use of B, A, AA, and AAA divisions, more skill levels and paying customers can be accommodated. These are your future MLL ticket buyers, and media consumers. And of course, the best athletes can play in an older division if they and the coaches wish it to be so.

The people who complain about comparisons to hockey are probably persons not involved in youth hockey. Using strict age based play, coupled with multiple talent levels, it is easy (much easier than in lacrosse) to find competitive games and tournaments. My kids have played against hockey teams from MD, PA, and MA on many occasions. Not once has any of these teams seemed older, bigger or more mature than our team. And the games have been competitive because teams at similar levels are matched up. But yet in lacrosse these three states, noted for their holdbacks, routinely field bigger, older and more mature players. And the games are usually a mess - either my son's team gets killed, or we win in a sloppy game against older, but less skilled opponents that gets needlessly chippy. The experience with the former is much better than with the later.

Thank you!!! This is one of the best posts I have seen on this thread ever. Hope my kid is able to play with your son one day.

If he does they’ll mostly likely be playing with dolls.

Wow - how long did it take you to come up with that zinger . . . ?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

OK - so let me bore you further . . .

It's already been hashed out, but the two sports have more similarity than not for a number of reasons - just because you declare otherwise with no reasons presented for doing so means what exactly . . ?!!

Your son(s) didn't "need" to play up because, in essence, the holdback situation is forcing everyone to play up to some degree, with that forced situation increasing relative to the increasing number of holdbacks each year. That forced situation may have helped your sons and others, but it likely has also hurt others; maintaining that situation as the status quo is apathetic. And your approach to making this a pure binary argument - deal with it = strong vs not accepting it = weak - is over simplified and intellectually lazy thinking. It may suit your 'argument', but it doesn't hold up well when you honestly assess all of the variables that go into a child's development.

All of the people here have sons playing, they are dealing with the current situation, but also have a desire to make the system better - you can actually do both! Novel concept there, huh?! Some will only talk about it, others may be more active in that regard - that goes for anything, but that's how things evolve. I advocate for age-based play as a coach who sees that an age-based system will be better for all players - I am not sure that a change will impact my sons, as both are strong players on good teams today - again, probably a novel concept for you. Those "obscure" (NOT) studies have guided every other sport to come to a decision that age-based play was the best system for at least pre-HS aged SAs - EVERY SINGLE one! Those sports are all further along the time and maturity curve of lacrosse - they ALL dealt with these issues previously, and adapted to create a better experience, and the athletes being turned out by those systems have not lagged. Yet, your position is basically they ALL got it wrong! That's a pretty arrogant line of thinking, although not surprising within lacrosse - there is fair amount of elitism present in the sport. And like most elitism, it's usually not borne out by rational facts, but the elitism persists because the status quo is maintained.

Social Darwinism at its finest. For every study you find, I can find one to the contrary.

Excuses are for the weak.

No you can't, what a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop comparing hockey and lacrosse. They are different sports entirely. One of the above posts actually implied that if lacrosse goes to age based then lacrosse players will be able to make a living playing the sport. That is ludicrous.

My older sons didn’t need to play up to be successful in the system as currently constructed, and my younger son is on a similar path (though admittedly impossible to extrapolate). And yes, he is developing a work ethic by playing against holdbacks, or any player that is better than him. What you see as lunacy, I see as opportunities to develop his whole person and make him a stronger future adult. You see it differently because you are a weak person and can’t relate to the necessity for challenges at a young age. That’s why you’re so bitter about it.

My son(s) play(ed) in this system and, as far as my eldest two, I’m proud of men they’ve become. Obviously, lacrosse played a small part in that, but it definitely played a part. They are scholar athletes who make no excuses. Something you clearly know nothing about. I’ve been through the system and have seen it’s benefits first hand. You, presumably, read some obscure studies funded to prove the point your trying to make, but have actually seen and done nothing.

This argument bores me and so do you.

OK - so let me bore you further . . .

It's already been hashed out, but the two sports have more similarity than not for a number of reasons - just because you declare otherwise with no reasons presented for doing so means what exactly . . ?!!

Your son(s) didn't "need" to play up because, in essence, the holdback situation is forcing everyone to play up to some degree, with that forced situation increasing relative to the increasing number of holdbacks each year. That forced situation may have helped your sons and others, but it likely has also hurt others; maintaining that situation as the status quo is apathetic. And your approach to making this a pure binary argument - deal with it = strong vs not accepting it = weak - is over simplified and intellectually lazy thinking. It may suit your 'argument', but it doesn't hold up well when you honestly assess all of the variables that go into a child's development.

All of the people here have sons playing, they are dealing with the current situation, but also have a desire to make the system better - you can actually do both! Novel concept there, huh?! Some will only talk about it, others may be more active in that regard - that goes for anything, but that's how things evolve. I advocate for age-based play as a coach who sees that an age-based system will be better for all players - I am not sure that a change will impact my sons, as both are strong players on good teams today - again, probably a novel concept for you. Those "obscure" (NOT) studies have guided every other sport to come to a decision that age-based play was the best system for at least pre-HS aged SAs - EVERY SINGLE one! Those sports are all further along the time and maturity curve of lacrosse - they ALL dealt with these issues previously, and adapted to create a better experience, and the athletes being turned out by those systems have not lagged. Yet, your position is basically they ALL got it wrong! That's a pretty arrogant line of thinking, although not surprising within lacrosse - there is fair amount of elitism present in the sport. And like most elitism, it's usually not borne out by rational facts, but the elitism persists because the status quo is maintained.

Social Darwinism at its finest. For every study you find, I can find one to the contrary.

Excuses are for the weak.

Really? How about you find even just a few studies that support and advocate the idea of all players playing up across a sport -OR- studies advocating for grade-based play, and then post links here. We'll wait....

It’s NOT changing EVER!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s NOT changing EVER!

And there it is - the most cogent argument on BOTC today!

Sadly, it will only change when a boy gets seriously hurt by a "hold-back" "cheater" and the family sues the club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly, it will only change when a boy gets seriously hurt by a "hold-back" "cheater" and the family sues the club.

Yeah, and since that’s never happened before, I’m fairly certain it won’t happen in the future either. One of the reasons that it is a non-issue for clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly, it will only change when a boy gets seriously hurt by a "hold-back" "cheater" and the family sues the club.

Yeah, and since that’s never happened before, I’m fairly certain it won’t happen in the future either. One of the reasons that it is a non-issue for clubs.

It always never happens . . . until it does!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly, it will only change when a boy gets seriously hurt by a "hold-back" "cheater" and the family sues the club.

Yeah, and since that’s never happened before, I’m fairly certain it won’t happen in the future either. One of the reasons that it is a non-issue for clubs.

It always never happens . . . until it does!

It does happen more times then we think. My kid plays on age. Like myself I would tend to think that the parents of on age kids are most likely very ethical and decent people. If my kid got hurt on the field and yes it has happened, I am not running over to the boy that hurt my kid to check his ID. That would be completely unethical, and I would never do that to a child.But his parents should be ashamed of themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly, it will only change when a boy gets seriously hurt by a "hold-back" "cheater" and the family sues the club.

Yeah, and since that’s never happened before, I’m fairly certain it won’t happen in the future either. One of the reasons that it is a non-issue for clubs.

It always never happens . . . until it does!

It does happen more times then we think. My kid plays on age. Like myself I would tend to think that the parents of on age kids are most likely very ethical and decent people. If my kid got hurt on the field and yes it has happened, I am not running over to the boy that hurt my kid to check his ID. That would be completely unethical, and I would never do that to a child.But his parents should be ashamed of themselves.

Lawsuits happen all of the time - unless you're living under a rock, our society is very litigious, to the point that personal responsibility is almost passe! The threshold will be when a lawsuit or series of lawsuits comes where multiple parties - think club, tournament, locale, AND USL, etc - are all party to the suit, and they find for the plaintiff with damages for a significant amount where an age difference is a significant contributing fact in the case. That will be when the insurance carriers dictate that this practice will stop - no one will be able to get reasonable coverage without mitigating the risk, which means age-based play only. And while most on BOTC advocate for that need to only be for pre-HS ages, the reality is that if age-based play comes about via the insurance side of things, they will insist upon that for all ages. Too many tournaments and/or organizations have both pre-HS and HS ages brackets and it will be simpler for one type of insurance policy for all levels of play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly, it will only change when a boy gets seriously hurt by a "hold-back" "cheater" and the family sues the club.

Yeah, and since that’s never happened before, I’m fairly certain it won’t happen in the future either. One of the reasons that it is a non-issue for clubs.

It always never happens . . . until it does!

It does happen more times then we think. My kid plays on age. Like myself I would tend to think that the parents of on age kids are most likely very ethical and decent people. If my kid got hurt on the field and yes it has happened, I am not running over to the boy that hurt my kid to check his ID. That would be completely unethical, and I would never do that to a child.But his parents should be ashamed of themselves.

Lawsuits happen all of the time - unless you're living under a rock, our society is very litigious, to the point that personal responsibility is almost passe! The threshold will be when a lawsuit or series of lawsuits comes where multiple parties - think club, tournament, locale, AND USL, etc - are all party to the suit, and they find for the plaintiff with damages for a significant amount where an age difference is a significant contributing fact in the case. That will be when the insurance carriers dictate that this practice will stop - no one will be able to get reasonable coverage without mitigating the risk, which means age-based play only. And while most on BOTC advocate for that need to only be for pre-HS ages, the reality is that if age-based play comes about via the insurance side of things, they will insist upon that for all ages. Too many tournaments and/or organizations have both pre-HS and HS ages brackets and it will be simpler for one type of insurance policy for all levels of play.

How could any reasonable parent argue with that quote.

One day, in the very near future, lacrosse will be an age based youth sport - and 5 minutes after that happens there will be parents on this site saying that youth lacrosse needs to have weight and height limits because it just isn't safe "my kid is XXXXX and they mature late and he can't compete with those 10 year old XXXXXXX kids already in puberty", and about a year later people will be saying it needs to be split by kids born in the first half of the year and kids born in the second half of the year because the January and February kids are just to big and strong to compete with. I know I am being snarky but the point is people will always complain no matter what.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sadly, it will only change when a boy gets seriously hurt by a "hold-back" "cheater" and the family sues the club.

Yeah, and since that’s never happened before, I’m fairly certain it won’t happen in the future either. One of the reasons that it is a non-issue for clubs.

It always never happens . . . until it does!

It does happen more times then we think. My kid plays on age. Like myself I would tend to think that the parents of on age kids are most I'll tyr

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sadly, it will only change when a boy gets seriously hurt by a "hold-back" "cheater" and the family sues the club.

Yeah, and since that’s never happened before, I’m fairly certain it won’t happen in the future either. One of the reasons that it is a non-issue for clubs.

It always never happens . . . until it does!

It does happen more times then we think. My kid plays on age. Like myself I would tend to think that the parents of on age kids are most likely very ethical and decent people. If my kid got hurt on the field and yes it has happened, I am not running over to the boy that hurt my kid to check his ID. That would be completely unethical, and I would never do that to a child.But his parents should be ashamed of themselves.

Lawsuits happen all of the time - unless you're living under a rock, our society is very litigious, to the point that personal responsibility is almost passe! The threshold will be when a lawsuit or series of lawsuits comes where multiple parties - think club, tournament, locale, AND USL, etc - are all party to the suit, and they find for the plaintiff with damages for a significant amount where an age difference is a significant contributing fact in the case. That will be when the insurance carriers dictate that this practice will stop - no one will be able to get reasonable coverage without mitigating the risk, which means age-based play only. And while most on BOTC advocate for that need to only be for pre-HS ages, the reality is that if age-based play comes about via the insurance side of things, they will insist upon that for all ages. Too many tournaments and/or organizations have both pre-HS and HS ages brackets and it will be simpler for one type of insurance policy for all levels of play.

How could any reasonable parent argue with that quote.

I will try.... oh, never mind, you said reasonable and in that case I do not qualify.

But the point is that if it is in fact a grade based tournament and the older kid is in the correct grade I am not sure USLacrosse and even the others would be liable. if they knowingly allowed older aged kids maybe but I am not sure what additional exposure they would have.

PAL still have combined grade leagues (3rd/4th or 5th/6th) so how would that be any different than a 5th grade tourney having 5th grade players that have repeated a year?

there are no simple fixes to this

Lawsuits happen all of the time - unless you're living under a rock, our society is very litigious, to the point that personal responsibility is almost passe! The threshold will be when a lawsuit or series of lawsuits comes where multiple parties - think club, tournament, locale, AND USL, etc - are all party to the suit, and they find for the plaintiff with damages for a significant amount where an age difference is a significant contributing fact in the case. That will be when the insurance carriers dictate that this practice will stop - no one will be able to get reasonable coverage without mitigating the risk, which means age-based play only. And while most on BOTC advocate for that need to only be for pre-HS ages, the reality is that if age-based play comes about via the insurance side of things, they will insist upon that for all ages. Too many tournaments and/or organizations have both pre-HS and HS ages brackets and it will be simpler for one type of insurance policy for all levels of play.[/quote]

How could any reasonable parent argue with that quote.[/quote]

I will try.... oh, never mind, you said reasonable and in that case I do not qualify.

But the point is that if it is in fact a grade based tournament and the older kid is in the correct grade I am not sure USLacrosse and even the others would be liable. if they knowingly allowed older aged kids maybe but I am not sure what additional exposure they would have.

PAL still have combined grade leagues (3rd/4th or 5th/6th) so how would that be any different than a 5th grade tourney having 5th grade players that have repeated a year?

there are no simple fixes to this [/quote]

"One day, in the very near future, lacrosse will be an age based youth sport - and 5 minutes after that happens there will be parents on this site saying that youth lacrosse needs to have weight and height limits because it just isn't safe "my kid is XXXXX and they mature late and he can't compete with those 10 year old XXXXXXX kids already in puberty", and about a year later people will be saying it needs to be split by kids born in the first half of the year and kids born in the second half of the year because the January and February kids are just to big and strong to compete with. I know I am being snarky but the point is people will always complain no matter what." While snarky, it ignores the concepts of reasonable and feasible - age-based play is both reasonable and feasible. Do you know how I know this? Because EVERY.OTHER.SPORT.HAS.ALREADY.DONE.IT!!

"One day, in the very near future, lacrosse will be an age based youth sport - and 5 minutes after that happens there will be parents on this site saying that youth lacrosse needs to have weight and height limits because it just isn't safe "my kid is XXXXX and they mature late and he can't compete with those 10 year old XXXXXXX kids already in puberty", and about a year later people will be saying it needs to be split by kids born in the first half of the year and kids born in the second half of the year because the January and February kids are just to big and strong to compete with. I know I am being snarky but the point is people will always complain no matter what."

The above might be the single most uninformed post on this board, which says a lot. And its clearly made by a person who has a kid who only plays lacrosse. Nearly every single other sport has age based play, and I have not heard a single comment from anyone as to the things you are saying. I have had multiple kids in travel hockey for many years. Its always been birth year. I have not heard a single complaint along the lines of what you are saying. Not one. Same with Little League Baseball. People need to involve themselves with something other than lacrosse every once and a while.

[/quote]

Lawsuits happen all of the time - unless you're living under a rock, our society is very litigious, to the point that personal responsibility is almost passe! The threshold will be when a lawsuit or series of lawsuits comes where multiple parties - think club, tournament, locale, AND USL, etc - are all party to the suit, and they find for the plaintiff with damages for a significant amount where an age difference is a significant contributing fact in the case. That will be when the insurance carriers dictate that this practice will stop - no one will be able to get reasonable coverage without mitigating the risk, which means age-based play only. And while most on BOTC advocate for that need to only be for pre-HS ages, the reality is that if age-based play comes about via the insurance side of things, they will insist upon that for all ages. Too many tournaments and/or organizations have both pre-HS and HS ages brackets and it will be simpler for one type of insurance policy for all levels of play.[/quote]

How could any reasonable parent argue with that quote.[/quote]

I will try.... oh, never mind, you said reasonable and in that case I do not qualify.

But the point is that if it is in fact a grade based tournament and the older kid is in the correct grade I am not sure USLacrosse and even the others would be liable. if they knowingly allowed older aged kids maybe but I am not sure what additional exposure they would have.

PAL still have combined grade leagues (3rd/4th or 5th/6th) so how would that be any different than a 5th grade tourney having 5th grade players that have repeated a year?

there are no simple fixes to this [/quote]

The liability will be couched in the use of a grade-base system - by virtue of using grades, USL, along with all of the other more direct parties, will have created an inherently unsafe and/or dangerous situation whereby players of disparate ages are playing against each other in a full contact sport. Further, despite USL age guidelines, there is no attempt to govern these guidelines, and any players who are more than one year above age for their grade are already in violation of the guidelines. And from practical application, no one (!) at any level attempts to validate even players' grade levels - not teams, not tournaments, not the USL. There are players playing down 2 years from their 'normal on-age' level based upon the proclamation that they "intend to" do a PG year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]

Lawsuits happen all of the time - unless you're living under a rock, our society is very litigious, to the point that personal responsibility is almost passe! The threshold will be when a lawsuit or series of lawsuits comes where multiple parties - think club, tournament, locale, AND USL, etc - are all party to the suit, and they find for the plaintiff with damages for a significant amount where an age difference is a significant contributing fact in the case. That will be when the insurance carriers dictate that this practice will stop - no one will be able to get reasonable coverage without mitigating the risk, which means age-based play only. And while most on BOTC advocate for that need to only be for pre-HS ages, the reality is that if age-based play comes about via the insurance side of things, they will insist upon that for all ages. Too many tournaments and/or organizations have both pre-HS and HS ages brackets and it will be simpler for one type of insurance policy for all levels of play.

How could any reasonable parent argue with that quote.[/quote]

I will try.... oh, never mind, you said reasonable and in that case I do not qualify.

But the point is that if it is in fact a grade based tournament and the older kid is in the correct grade I am not sure USLacrosse and even the others would be liable. if they knowingly allowed older aged kids maybe but I am not sure what additional exposure they would have.

PAL still have combined grade leagues (3rd/4th or 5th/6th) so how would that be any different than a 5th grade tourney having 5th grade players that have repeated a year?

there are no simple fixes to this [/quote]

The liability will be couched in the use of a grade-base system - by virtue of using grades, USL, along with all of the other more direct parties, will have created an inherently unsafe and/or dangerous situation whereby players of disparate ages are playing against each other in a full contact sport. Further, despite USL age guidelines, there is no attempt to govern these guidelines, and any players who are more than one year above age for their grade are already in violation of the guidelines. And from practical application, no one (!) at any level attempts to validate even players' grade levels - not teams, not tournaments, not the USL. There are players playing down 2 years from their 'normal on-age' level based upon the proclamation that they "intend to" do a PG year![/quote]

As to liability issues, assumption of risk is part of the analysis. At present, parents are putting their kids on the field while having no idea how old (or young) their opponents are. So it would be hard to defend these claims with an assumption of the risk defense. There is never any disclosure as to the age of the opponents or those participating in an event. Moreover, as has already been mentioned, no one in travel lacrosse - not clubs, not tournaments - requests verification of grade or age. This appears to be negligent in and of itself. No one exchanges rosters. There are no game sheets. Youth lacrosse tournaments are completely lawless and quite seriously unlike any other youth sporting event I have ever known.

Moreover, the toxic environments on sidelines negatively affects parent's prospective of the legitimacy and transparency of the competition. Everyone just assumes that a big, fast and skilled kid must be years older, when sometimes he really isn't.

Something is wrong with a sport when teams are supposed to be at the same level, grade-wise, but almost to a man one team is bigger than the other. This NEVER happens in age based sports. You can travel up and down the east coast with your kid playing soccer, hockey and baseball, and teams from every state will have basically the same average size as every other team. Some teams will have some freakishly big kids, but its balanced out by the small kids on the team. And everyone is fine with the freakishly big kid because they know his birth certificate is on file with the national (or state) organization, his name is on the roster submitted to same, and it would be easy to determine if cheating were involved.

Youth sports certainly has a win-at-all-costs side to it, but you would be surprised at how little cheating really occurs when everyone has confidence that the rules are being followed by everyone and that there are controls in place making it likely that cheaters will be caught. Stated differently, coaches and parents that cheat in youth sports in issues of eligibility really don't want to do it. They just think they have to in order to balance out cheating done by others. Left confident that no one else cheats, coaches and parents rarely do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]

Lawsuits happen all of the time - unless you're living under a rock, our society is very litigious, to the point that personal responsibility is almost passe! The threshold will be when a lawsuit or series of lawsuits comes where multiple parties - think club, tournament, locale, AND USL, etc - are all party to the suit, and they find for the plaintiff with damages for a significant amount where an age difference is a significant contributing fact in the case. That will be when the insurance carriers dictate that this practice will stop - no one will be able to get reasonable coverage without mitigating the risk, which means age-based play only. And while most on BOTC advocate for that need to only be for pre-HS ages, the reality is that if age-based play comes about via the insurance side of things, they will insist upon that for all ages. Too many tournaments and/or organizations have both pre-HS and HS ages brackets and it will be simpler for one type of insurance policy for all levels of play.

How could any reasonable parent argue with that quote.[/quote]

I will try.... oh, never mind, you said reasonable and in that case I do not qualify.

But the point is that if it is in fact a grade based tournament and the older kid is in the correct grade I am not sure USLacrosse and even the others would be liable. if they knowingly allowed older aged kids maybe but I am not sure what additional exposure they would have.

PAL still have combined grade leagues (3rd/4th or 5th/6th) so how would that be any different than a 5th grade tourney having 5th grade players that have repeated a year?

there are no simple fixes to this [/quote]

The liability will be couched in the use of a grade-base system - by virtue of using grades, USL, along with all of the other more direct parties, will have created an inherently unsafe and/or dangerous situation whereby players of disparate ages are playing against each other in a full contact sport. Further, despite USL age guidelines, there is no attempt to govern these guidelines, and any players who are more than one year above age for their grade are already in violation of the guidelines. And from practical application, no one (!) at any level attempts to validate even players' grade levels - not teams, not tournaments, not the USL. There are players playing down 2 years from their 'normal on-age' level based upon the proclamation that they "intend to" do a PG year![/quote]

Regarding town rec leagues in the spring (on LI they call this "PAL"), they will often have to combine years due to lower numbers and maybe just past practice and culture. Under an age based system, they can use a dual birth year set up, similar to what hockey does at many levels. The main point, though, is disclosure. When you sign your kid up and/or bring him to a game/tournament, you know the ages of the kids he is going up against. The parent can then make an informed choice. In the present system, the parent has no idea how old the other kids are.

Don’t really understand why any parent would not want his kid playing with kids his own age. Unless you are trying to take advantage of the current system there is no credible argument to oppose age based classification.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don’t really understand why any parent would not want his kid playing with kids his own age. Unless you are trying to take advantage of the current system there is no credible argument to oppose age based classification.

Especially when any player has the option to play up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don’t really understand why any parent would not want his kid playing with kids his own age. Unless you are trying to take advantage of the current system there is no credible argument to oppose age based classification.

I respect and understand your opinion but I find it so hard to understand how all the "age based" parents refuse to understand that people have a different opinion, this does not make us wrong, just of a different opinion. My son is on the young side of his grade and always was on the small size as well. I would always want him to play against kids in his grade and not worry about age (when with his summer travel team) and this was true in 3rd grade thru 9th grade - it obviously made no difference in school ball as that is always grade based.

It is my opinion that there is a benefit by competing against kids your own grade that you would eventually have to compete against in prospect days and showcases. I would see no advantage in dominating the summer circuit with kids your own age and then go to Maverik or Jake Reed and have to go against kids in your own grade that have been playing against bigger, stronger and better competition.

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

I choose for my son to play against 2025's. That's why there is a "2025" classification, right ?
If I want him to play against older kids I would have him play up, which is what he sometimes does for his PAL team. That's my choice.

Most "holdbacks" (those who play down specifically for sports) have one thing in common: they are just NOT good enough to play with kids their own age! They know it, and so does everyone else.

It's all good tho, Karma!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

You obviously cannot understand the basis of an offer on supposition of a legal case to be made IF a party chose to do so. Just as with many other civil actions, proving that such a condition actually exists is not necessary - the mere risk that it might be accepted in court is and would be enough for parties to avoid that future argument. Unfortunately, it is currently less expensive to avoid a risk or settle on a claim with such risk than it is to prevail against a claim, even if prevailing is likely. Civil law has become less and less about justice and more about the path of least resistance/cost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don’t really understand why any parent would not want his kid playing with kids his own age. Unless you are trying to take advantage of the current system there is no credible argument to oppose age based classification.

I respect and understand your opinion but I find it so hard to understand how all the "age based" parents refuse to understand that people have a different opinion, this does not make us wrong, just of a different opinion. My son is on the young side of his grade and always was on the small size as well. I would always want him to play against kids in his grade and not worry about age (when with his summer travel team) and this was true in 3rd grade thru 9th grade - it obviously made no difference in school ball as that is always grade based.

It is my opinion that there is a benefit by competing against kids your own grade that you would eventually have to compete against in prospect days and showcases. I would see no advantage in dominating the summer circuit with kids your own age and then go to Maverik or Jake Reed and have to go against kids in your own grade that have been playing against bigger, stronger and better competition.

I am an "age based" parent. I respect your opinion regarding what is best for your kid. In an age based system, you absolutely can have your kid play against older kids if that is what you want. If he is a 2007 (which most 5th graders are), than you just simply have him play on a 2006 team. Its a win/win for everyone. This is why there is no credible argument to oppose an age based system. Wanting your kid to play against older kids is a legitimate goal/argument. What lacks legitimacy is the idea that ALL youth players must exist in a system where there are absolutely zero controls or disclosures concern the age of participants, and you pull up to a tournament having no idea whether your 10 year old is playing against 10 year olds or 12 year olds, and indeed there may be vast differences in the ages of your opponents between your 10 am opponent and your 1 pm opponent. In fact, you should desire an age based system. Since you want your kid playing against older kids, an age based system ensures this through his participation in an older BY division. Under the current system, you may show up at a tournament and through luck of the draw find that his opponents lack the very holdback opposition you are seeking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lawsuits happen all of the time - unless you're living under a rock, our society is very litigious, to the point that personal responsibility is almost passe! The threshold will be when a lawsuit or series of lawsuits comes where multiple parties - think club, tournament, locale, AND USL, etc - are all party to the suit, and they find for the plaintiff with damages for a significant amount where an age difference is a significant contributing fact in the case. That will be when the insurance carriers dictate that this practice will stop - no one will be able to get reasonable coverage without mitigating the risk, which means age-based play only. And while most on BOTC advocate for that need to only be for pre-HS ages, the reality is that if age-based play comes about via the insurance side of things, they will insist upon that for all ages. Too many tournaments and/or organizations have both pre-HS and HS ages brackets and it will be simpler for one type of insurance policy for all levels of play.

How could any reasonable parent argue with that quote.[/quote]

I will try.... oh, never mind, you said reasonable and in that case I do not qualify.

But the point is that if it is in fact a grade based tournament and the older kid is in the correct grade I am not sure USLacrosse and even the others would be liable. if they knowingly allowed older aged kids maybe but I am not sure what additional exposure they would have.

PAL still have combined grade leagues (3rd/4th or 5th/6th) so how would that be any different than a 5th grade tourney having 5th grade players that have repeated a year?

there are no simple fixes to this [/quote]

The liability will be couched in the use of a grade-base system - by virtue of using grades, USL, along with all of the other more direct parties, will have created an inherently unsafe and/or dangerous situation whereby players of disparate ages are playing against each other in a full contact sport. Further, despite USL age guidelines, there is no attempt to govern these guidelines, and any players who are more than one year above age for their grade are already in violation of the guidelines. And from practical application, no one (!) at any level attempts to validate even players' grade levels - not teams, not tournaments, not the USL. There are players playing down 2 years from their 'normal on-age' level based upon the proclamation that they "intend to" do a PG year![/quote]

As to liability issues, assumption of risk is part of the analysis. At present, parents are putting their kids on the field while having no idea how old (or young) their opponents are. So it would be hard to defend these claims with an assumption of the risk defense. There is never any disclosure as to the age of the opponents or those participating in an event. Moreover, as has already been mentioned, no one in travel lacrosse - not clubs, not tournaments - requests verification of grade or age. This appears to be negligent in and of itself. No one exchanges rosters. There are no game sheets. Youth lacrosse tournaments are completely lawless and quite seriously unlike any other youth sporting event I have ever known.

Moreover, the toxic environments on sidelines negatively affects parent's prospective of the legitimacy and transparency of the competition. Everyone just assumes that a big, fast and skilled kid must be years older, when sometimes he really isn't.

Something is wrong with a sport when teams are supposed to be at the same level, grade-wise, but almost to a man one team is bigger than the other. This NEVER happens in age based sports. You can travel up and down the east coast with your kid playing soccer, hockey and baseball, and teams from every state will have basically the same average size as every other team. Some teams will have some freakishly big kids, but its balanced out by the small kids on the team. And everyone is fine with the freakishly big kid because they know his birth certificate is on file with the national (or state) organization, his name is on the roster submitted to same, and it would be easy to determine if cheating were involved.

Youth sports certainly has a win-at-all-costs side to it, but you would be surprised at how little cheating really occurs when everyone has confidence that the rules are being followed by everyone and that there are controls in place making it likely that cheaters will be caught. Stated differently, coaches and parents that cheat in youth sports in issues of eligibility really don't want to do it. They just think they have to in order to balance out cheating done by others. Left confident that no one else cheats, coaches and parents rarely do.[/quote]

This by far, is the best quote I have ever heard on this website!!!! BY FAR.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

You obviously cannot understand the basis of an offer on supposition of a legal case to be made IF a party chose to do so. Just as with many other civil actions, proving that such a condition actually exists is not necessary - the mere risk that it might be accepted in court is and would be enough for parties to avoid that future argument. Unfortunately, it is currently less expensive to avoid a risk or settle on a claim with such risk than it is to prevail against a claim, even if prevailing is likely. Civil law has become less and less about justice and more about the path of least resistance/cost.

You’re argument is that it’s cheaper to let your son play even though you think he’s in danger. Good to know, thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

You obviously cannot understand the basis of an offer on supposition of a legal case to be made IF a party chose to do so. Just as with many other civil actions, proving that such a condition actually exists is not necessary - the mere risk that it might be accepted in court is and would be enough for parties to avoid that future argument. Unfortunately, it is currently less expensive to avoid a risk or settle on a claim with such risk than it is to prevail against a claim, even if prevailing is likely. Civil law has become less and less about justice and more about the path of least resistance/cost.

You’re argument is that it’s cheaper to let your son play even though you think he’s in danger. Good to know, thanks.

If that's what you took from this, you need to go back and rethink the education you've supposedly received . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

Your an [ChillLaxin]! My kid loves the sport.It is a youth sport. Youth sports need age rules put in place. That's it. Why would any parent not want age rules put in place?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

Your an [ChillLaxin]! My kid loves the sport.It is a youth sport. Youth sports need age rules put in place. That's it. Why would any parent not want age rules put in place?

So if he loved guns you would let him play with those too? You wrote about the “dangers” and the risk associated with it but you still send him out there, but I’m the [ChillLaxin]? Okay

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

Your an [ChillLaxin]! My kid loves the sport.It is a youth sport. Youth sports need age rules put in place. That's it. Why would any parent not want age rules put in place?

So if he loved guns you would let him play with those too? You wrote about the “dangers” and the risk associated with it but you still send him out there, but I’m the [ChillLaxin]? Okay

Its much more then that and your argument is week.But you already know that.
You are just trying to ride out your little hold back as long as you can in the only sport that will allow him to compete with kids younger then him. So i ask you This. if there had to be an age cutoff what would you make it? ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

Your an [ChillLaxin]! My kid loves the sport.It is a youth sport. Youth sports need age rules put in place. That's it. Why would any parent not want age rules put in place?

So if he loved guns you would let him play with those too? You wrote about the “dangers” and the risk associated with it but you still send him out there, but I’m the [ChillLaxin]? Okay

You are replying to a another poster after my original post - for some reason, so many here on BOTC feel that when they disagree with another poster that somehow there can't be more than one person that disagrees with them. Anyway, since you are slow on the uptake, let me say this again . . . veeerrrry slooowwwwlyyy . . . for the intellectually impaired: I put forth a premise by which an attorney COULD THEORETICALLY put forth a claim for such "dangerous" conditions. I further stated that those claims may not, but more importantly (!) need not, be true. (I also made zero comments on my opinions on whether such a premise was valid as my opinion would play no role in any lawsuit brought!). The point being (again , for dense!) is that should such lawsuits be brought using such a claim, the defendant(s) very well might feel that a risk of not prevailing at trial -OR- that it would be cheaper to just settle than to prevail in a full trial would bring about a settlement. Yet, you continue to ascribe the above to be my opinions and feelings about the circumstance - which is to say, short and sweet, "You're not the sharpest [ChillLaxin] in the shed"!

When they implement the “age based” Lacrosse programs what will be next? Since you want to bring other sports up, let’s usenfootball, a contact sport, which is grade based, which also has weight limits. So you daddy of the porky 11 year old will not allow your little donut eater to play.! You see there is a slippery slope, and once you introduce those disgusting money grubbing litigators into the mix, all bets are off. So you better take the Happy Meal out of your chubby attackmans hands fella! Good luck, kids on age, don’t care about hold backs because he does fine, you little porker struggles, so be it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When they implement the “age based” Lacrosse programs what will be next? Since you want to bring other sports up, let’s usenfootball, a contact sport, which is grade based, which also has weight limits. So you daddy of the porky 11 year old will not allow your little donut eater to play.! You see there is a slippery slope, and once you introduce those disgusting money grubbing litigators into the mix, all bets are off. So you better take the Happy Meal out of your chubby attackmans hands fella! Good luck, kids on age, don’t care about hold backs because he does fine, you little porker struggles, so be it!

Youth football is age based, NOT grade based. If a player cannot make weight within his AGE, he can play up one year, but no more. In other words, your analogy sucks balls!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When they implement the “age based” Lacrosse programs what will be next? Since you want to bring other sports up, let’s usenfootball, a contact sport, which is grade based, which also has weight limits. So you daddy of the porky 11 year old will not allow your little donut eater to play.! You see there is a slippery slope, and once you introduce those disgusting money grubbing litigators into the mix, all bets are off. So you better take the Happy Meal out of your chubby attackmans hands fella! Good luck, kids on age, don’t care about hold backs because he does fine, you little porker struggles, so be it!

Youth football is age based, NOT grade based. If a player cannot make weight within his AGE, he can play up one year, but no more. In other words, your analogy sucks balls!

Suffolk is age based only. You have to submit an affidavit and a picture of the child. US Lacrosse offeres age verification for free for all members. You send in a birth certificate, they verify the age and add that to the USL number. It could be done.

Still NEVER changing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don’t really understand why any parent would not want his kid playing with kids his own age. Unless you are trying to take advantage of the current system there is no credible argument to oppose age based classification.

I respect and understand your opinion but I find it so hard to understand how all the "age based" parents refuse to understand that people have a different opinion, this does not make us wrong, just of a different opinion. My son is on the young side of his grade and always was on the small size as well. I would always want him to play against kids in his grade and not worry about age (when with his summer travel team) and this was true in 3rd grade thru 9th grade - it obviously made no difference in school ball as that is always grade based.

It is my opinion that there is a benefit by competing against kids your own grade that you would eventually have to compete against in prospect days and showcases. I would see no advantage in dominating the summer circuit with kids your own age and then go to Maverik or Jake Reed and have to go against kids in your own grade that have been playing against bigger, stronger and better competition.

My kid is also on the small side and young for the grade. However, I think and Age based system is the only fair way to go. He will be fine when middle school comes around. But club ball should have age requirements.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still NEVER changing!

Let me guess your boy a hold-back???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When they implement the “age based” Lacrosse programs what will be next? Since you want to bring other sports up, let’s usenfootball, a contact sport, which is grade based, which also has weight limits. So you daddy of the porky 11 year old will not allow your little donut eater to play.! You see there is a slippery slope, and once you introduce those disgusting money grubbing litigators into the mix, all bets are off. So you better take the Happy Meal out of your chubby attackmans hands fella! Good luck, kids on age, don’t care about hold backs because he does fine, you little porker struggles, so be it!

Youth football is age based, NOT grade based. If a player cannot make weight within his AGE, he can play up one year, but no more. In other words, your analogy sucks balls!

Suffolk is age based only. You have to submit an affidavit and a picture of the child. US Lacrosse offeres age verification for free for all members. You send in a birth certificate, they verify the age and add that to the USL number. It could be done.

I am an advocate for age-based play, but the USL age cert process was not exactly a great attempt to do this. If you look at how 'real' sports do this, the original vetting requires in person presentment of an original COB with raised seal. The USL process via a digital image is so prone to altered DOB that it's not really worth that much. For LI, the process should have been executed in person via the Long Island Metro Chapter. It's a lot of work, but it's a one-time thing per player and it is what lends credibility and confidence to the entire situation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

Your an [ChillLaxin]! My kid loves the sport.It is a youth sport. Youth sports need age rules put in place. That's it. Why would any parent not want age rules put in place?

Why would anyone want to change it??? It’s a system that has proven to be successful. The players who have been through the LI club system have become some of the best to play the sport. Your son is either too small or your hero is Katelyn Jenner.

Before you say “it’s going to take a serious injury before the system changes”, keep in mind, I’ve been hearing that since my eldest played youth lax a decade ago. The only thing that gets hurt is the pride of the fathers who think their kid is a dwarf god.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still NEVER changing!

Let me guess your boy a hold-back???

Nope just a realist, Never ever changing. Been in the sport for multiple kids, same argument for going on 10 years, didn’t change then, not changing now. You see, once your son gets into MS you won’t care, you’ll move on, and the next guy will take up the empty argument, and so on and so on! NEVER changing! And it’s becaus none of you have the heart to go to the director or coach and hold your son out. Let me know when you do though, I’ll think more of you for taking action rather than complaining anonymously on BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still NEVER changing!

Let me guess your boy a hold-back???

Nope just a realist, Never ever changing. Been in the sport for multiple kids, same argument for going on 10 years, didn’t change then, not changing now. You see, once your son gets into MS you won’t care, you’ll move on, and the next guy will take up the empty argument, and so on and so on! NEVER changing! And it’s becaus none of you have the heart to go to the director or coach and hold your son out. Let me know when you do though, I’ll think more of you for taking action rather than complaining anonymously on BOTC

I told my son's travel team coach we won't go to tourneys down in DE/MD to play against holdback teams - I wasn't the only one and, guess what - last season we didn't have any Mid-Atlantic tourneys! I've spoken to guys from the metro chapter of USL and reinforced that more parents than not want age-based play. And no, my son isn't young, isn't small, and is one of his team's better players. I don't advocate for age based play for my son - I do it because I am a youth spirt coach, and it's what's best for most kids and the sport. But, please - continue to make incorrect assumptions about everyone who doesn't agree with you. Even if your position isn't based upon anything other than the status quo.

Now that's an ignorant statement. When you get to middle school that when people care the most. That's when size really is obvious. Who's older and who's not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that's an ignorant statement. When you get to middle school that when people care the most. That's when size really is obvious. Who's older and who's not.

= another poster who can't figure out how to use the "Quote" button on a online forum, yet we should then take his opinion about anything seriously . . .

Who the F are you replying to??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still NEVER changing!

Let me guess your boy a hold-back???

Nope just a realist, Never ever changing. Been in the sport for multiple kids, same argument for going on 10 years, didn’t change then, not changing now. You see, once your son gets into MS you won’t care, you’ll move on, and the next guy will take up the empty argument, and so on and so on! NEVER changing! And it’s becaus none of you have the heart to go to the director or coach and hold your son out. Let me know when you do though, I’ll think more of you for taking action rather than complaining anonymously on BOTC

I told my son's travel team coach we won't go to tourneys down in DE/MD to play against holdback teams - I wasn't the only one and, guess what - last season we didn't have any Mid-Atlantic tourneys! I've spoken to guys from the metro chapter of USL and reinforced that more parents than not want age-based play. And no, my son isn't young, isn't small, and is one of his team's better players. I don't advocate for age based play for my son - I do it because I am a youth spirt coach, and it's what's best for most kids and the sport. But, please - continue to make incorrect assumptions about everyone who doesn't agree with you. Even if your position isn't based upon anything other than the status quo.

See a dad or mom who took proactive action, now I challenge the rest of the BOTC heroes to take a stand! No more grade based tourneys! Let’s see it, and name your clubs so we can give you the props you deserve!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still NEVER changing!

Let me guess your boy a hold-back???

Nope just a realist, Never ever changing. Been in the sport for multiple kids, same argument for going on 10 years, didn’t change then, not changing now. You see, once your son gets into MS you won’t care, you’ll move on, and the next guy will take up the empty argument, and so on and so on! NEVER changing! And it’s becaus none of you have the heart to go to the director or coach and hold your son out. Let me know when you do though, I’ll think more of you for taking action rather than complaining anonymously on BOTC

I told my son's travel team coach we won't go to tourneys down in DE/MD to play against holdback teams - I wasn't the only one and, guess what - last season we didn't have any Mid-Atlantic tourneys! I've spoken to guys from the metro chapter of USL and reinforced that more parents than not want age-based play. And no, my son isn't young, isn't small, and is one of his team's better players. I don't advocate for age based play for my son - I do it because I am a youth spirt coach, and it's what's best for most kids and the sport. But, please - continue to make incorrect assumptions about everyone who doesn't agree with you. Even if your position isn't based upon anything other than the status quo.

See a dad or mom who took proactive action, now I challenge the rest of the BOTC heroes to take a stand! No more grade based tourneys! Let’s see it, and name your clubs so we can give you the props you deserve!

If 91 did it through the ML Tourney monopoly then we would have something. They hold the key to this on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still NEVER changing!

Let me guess your boy a hold-back???

Nope just a realist, Never ever changing. Been in the sport for multiple kids, same argument for going on 10 years, didn’t change then, not changing now. You see, once your son gets into MS you won’t care, you’ll move on, and the next guy will take up the empty argument, and so on and so on! NEVER changing! And it’s becaus none of you have the heart to go to the director or coach and hold your son out. Let me know when you do though, I’ll think more of you for taking action rather than complaining anonymously on BOTC

I told my son's travel team coach we won't go to tourneys down in DE/MD to play against holdback teams - I wasn't the only one and, guess what - last season we didn't have any Mid-Atlantic tourneys! I've spoken to guys from the metro chapter of USL and reinforced that more parents than not want age-based play. And no, my son isn't young, isn't small, and is one of his team's better players. I don't advocate for age based play for my son - I do it because I am a youth spirt coach, and it's what's best for most kids and the sport. But, please - continue to make incorrect assumptions about everyone who doesn't agree with you. Even if your position isn't based upon anything other than the status quo.

I also should add that I said the same thing to the guy that ran my recent USL coaches' level 1 clinic. He responded that he has gotten a lot of the same comments from others at the other session he has done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still NEVER changing!

Let me guess your boy a hold-back???

Nope just a realist, Never ever changing. Been in the sport for multiple kids, same argument for going on 10 years, didn’t change then, not changing now. You see, once your son gets into MS you won’t care, you’ll move on, and the next guy will take up the empty argument, and so on and so on! NEVER changing! And it’s becaus none of you have the heart to go to the director or coach and hold your son out. Let me know when you do though, I’ll think more of you for taking action rather than complaining anonymously on BOTC

I told my son's travel team coach we won't go to tourneys down in DE/MD to play against holdback teams - I wasn't the only one and, guess what - last season we didn't have any Mid-Atlantic tourneys! I've spoken to guys from the metro chapter of USL and reinforced that more parents than not want age-based play. And no, my son isn't young, isn't small, and is one of his team's better players. I don't advocate for age based play for my son - I do it because I am a youth spirt coach, and it's what's best for most kids and the sport. But, please - continue to make incorrect assumptions about everyone who doesn't agree with you. Even if your position isn't based upon anything other than the status quo.

I also should add that I said the same thing to the guy that ran my recent USL coaches' level 1 clinic. He responded that he has gotten a lot of the same comments from others at the other session he has done.

But as I thought, you are a lonely soldier friend, hence the sport will never change. But kudos to you for having the cojones that the rest of your age v. grade warriors lack, especially the esquire who espouses nonsense without action!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still NEVER changing!

Let me guess your boy a hold-back???

Nope just a realist, Never ever changing. Been in the sport for multiple kids, same argument for going on 10 years, didn’t change then, not changing now. You see, once your son gets into MS you won’t care, you’ll move on, and the next guy will take up the empty argument, and so on and so on! NEVER changing! And it’s becaus none of you have the heart to go to the director or coach and hold your son out. Let me know when you do though, I’ll think more of you for taking action rather than complaining anonymously on BOTC

I told my son's travel team coach we won't go to tourneys down in DE/MD to play against holdback teams - I wasn't the only one and, guess what - last season we didn't have any Mid-Atlantic tourneys! I've spoken to guys from the metro chapter of USL and reinforced that more parents than not want age-based play. And no, my son isn't young, isn't small, and is one of his team's better players. I don't advocate for age based play for my son - I do it because I am a youth spirt coach, and it's what's best for most kids and the sport. But, please - continue to make incorrect assumptions about everyone who doesn't agree with you. Even if your position isn't based upon anything other than the status quo.

I also should add that I said the same thing to the guy that ran my recent USL coaches' level 1 clinic. He responded that he has gotten a lot of the same comments from others at the other session he has done.

But as I thought, you are a lonely soldier friend, hence the sport will never change. But kudos to you for having the cojones that the rest of your age v. grade warriors lack, especially the esquire who espouses nonsense without action!

The guy was asking for feedback to take back to LI Metro/USL, so those commenting similarly were actually doing something about. I may take more action overall, but I am not not alone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a bunch of phonies, so there is an inherent danger to kids who play with older kids? Yet all of you eagerly send your sons into this environment. So, you're either really bad parents, or you don't believe your own nonsense. Which is it?

Your an [ChillLaxin]! My kid loves the sport.It is a youth sport. Youth sports need age rules put in place. That's it. Why would any parent not want age rules put in place?

Why would anyone want to change it??? It’s a system that has proven to be successful. The players who have been through the LI club system have become some of the best to play the sport. Your son is either too small or your hero is Katelyn Jenner.

Before you say “it’s going to take a serious injury before the system changes”, keep in mind, I’ve been hearing that since my eldest played youth lax a decade ago. The only thing that gets hurt is the pride of the fathers who think their kid is a dwarf god.

You are both missing the point.Its not about the size of the kid.Its about the age of the kids there playing against at the youth level. If my kid is to small for this division he will also be small for the on age competition. Don't throw the height thing around in Youth sports. If he is undersized down the rd. he will have to pack on muscle to compete.But that is post puberty and is a different ball game.

Does all club organizations charged an extra tournament fee @ $125 per kid per tournament on top of there yearly tuition without discussing it with the team ??? New to club and seems like a money grab . Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does all club organizations charged an extra tournament fee @ $125 per kid per tournament on top of there yearly tuition without discussing it with the team ??? New to club and seems like a money grab . Thanks

Yes there is a Club that does it year after year and parents are pissed. Very very sneaky about it. $125x24kids=3k , how much is a tourney anywhere from $900 to $1,200 where the rest of the money go too ??? Ok pay a coach but most teams have coach that have kids on the team .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

Seems some Geese are tying out for Channey....

Legacy keeps charging people after the fact for extra tournaments might see more leaving next year !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy keeps charging people after the fact for extra tournaments might see more leaving next year !!

You need to find out what is included in your annual tuition before you sign up. Some clubs charge less upfront, then hit you up ala carte for fall practices, fall tournaments, winter training, winter tournaments, spring practices, spring tournaments, etc.. If your tuition included 5 summer tournaments and 15 practices, then you’re going to pay for the rest. As far as overcharging for the tournaments, yes, every club rips you off. They pay the coaches for coming and cover their “scholarship” kids. Every team has them, but no one will tell you they’re not paying because it will lead to a revolt.

The bottom line is that travel lax is insanely expensive. Everyone is paying... one way or another.whucdh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

Seems some Geese are tying out for Channey....

If you're son is not playing starting on the Geese, you won't see the field on the Express. No matter how much training you pay for. Don't worry it's all about the practice time and blowout games.

PLEASE GO !!!!! Chan WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU WATCH FROM THE SIDELINE $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

Seems some Geese are tying out for Channey....

If you're son is not playing starting on the Geese, you won't see the field on the Express. No matter how much training you pay for. Don't worry it's all about the practice time and blowout games.

Blast is looking for middies. They’ve reached out to two families that I know of. That’s an option if you want to deal with those nut jobs and their coaching carousel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

Seems some Geese are tying out for Channey....

If you're son is not playing starting on the Geese, you won't see the field on the Express. No matter how much training you pay for. Don't worry it's all about the practice time and blowout games.

Blast is looking for middies. They’ve reached out to two families that I know of. That’s an option if you want to deal with those nut jobs and their coaching carousel.

Your just a crap stirrer. 91 is not looking for middies. Your obviously feeling real insecure on Chan's team if you have to spread lies about other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy keeps charging people after the fact for extra tournaments might see more leaving next year !!

Not true. Legacy announced extra tournament early in season when people registered. It was not a surprise. And it's your decision whether you are doing extra tournament. Plus Legacy does playdate they don't charge extra for. Plus they do a lot of extra practices, well beyond what the initial contract is and they don't charge for it.

Certainly not how Express operates. You pay for everything extra. And they are the highest price to start and give you the least in your initial package. You will be dishing out a lot more "moolah" if you decide to go to express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

Seems some Geese are tying out for Channey....

If you're son is not playing starting on the Geese, you won't see the field on the Express. No matter how much training you pay for. Don't worry it's all about the practice time and blowout games.

Blast is looking for middies. They’ve reached out to two families that I know of. That’s an option if you want to deal with those nut jobs and their coaching carousel.

Your just a crap stirrer. 91 is not looking for middies. Your obviously feeling real insecure on Chan's team if you have to spread lies about other teams.

I personally was asked to bring my son over. We would never leave Express to go to that disaster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

Seems some Geese are tying out for Channey....

If you're son is not playing starting on the Geese, you won't see the field on the Express. No matter how much training you pay for. Don't worry it's all about the practice time and blowout games.

Blast is looking for middies. They’ve reached out to two families that I know of. That’s an option if you want to deal with those nut jobs and their coaching carousel.

Your just a crap stirrer. 91 is not looking for middies. Your obviously feeling real insecure on Chan's team if you have to spread lies about other teams.

I personally was asked to bring my son over. We would never leave Express to go to that disaster.

Personally asked by whom? Please enlighten us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

Seems some Geese are tying out for Channey....

Nobody really tries out...

What is the "great experiment " with Geese?

So, what is happening during the winter months? How many of the teams are working out every week and competing in Box tournaments?

Quick Question, do LI kids play for their club team all year long, or do they play for their town rec league in the Spring and only come together in the fall and summer months?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick Question, do LI kids play for their club team all year long, or do they play for their town rec league in the Spring and only come together in the fall and summer months?

Most club teams my sons have played for play all year long - winter workouts are usually an additional cost, but most players on the teams have participated in those. Most of the kid son their club teams also play with their PAL teams and if their town has them, their town travel teams as well. In general, the travel team practices during the spring, be it traditional club or town, do not practice as much so as to not interfere with those other teams. The travel practices tend to pick up once you get to May.

What is the story with the goalies for express?

They want the goalie from Legacy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the story with the goalies for express?

Well rumor is they have 4. Not sure about that. But they have more than 2. So funny.

PLEASE LEAVE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They want the goalie from Legacy

Why would they want that? The Express goalie was better...

So it sounds like most kids play with both their club team and their town team. That can get a little confusing if they are running different schemes. Wouldn't be surprised if the club teams somehow join the town leagues or create their own league like what was done in Maryland. Just moved here so trying to see what to do with my son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it sounds like most kids play with both their club team and their town team. That can get a little confusing if they are running different schemes. Wouldn't be surprised if the club teams somehow join the town leagues or create their own league like what was done in Maryland. Just moved here so trying to see what to do with my son.

The PAL leagues on LI are VERY community centric - there are strict rules about who can or cannot play for your community team. It is structured to allow everyone to play in as even a setting as possible. Thus, no club teams will ever be part of PAL due to the total non-community aspects of those teams. Having a dedicated league for the club-based teams, as they do in MD, is a tough sell because many community PAL teams will fold without their club players - the numbers in many towns won't support a PAL team without them, and I don't see boys playing on both a PAL team and in a league with club teams - the conflicts in time - games and practice - are too much. It's a debate had here on BOTC many times previously. The other issue is the level of play for many PAL teams is poor for those players that are on travel teams - the only PAL solution is for those players to play up, but that doesn't happen as much as it should.

Not sure which goalie is better but I am sure the Parents are much better then the "TANK" T SHIRT GUY

I don't which goalie is better, but sounds like you have an issue with the dad. Keep the issue with him. Express is getting some Geese should be interesting this Spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the "great experiment " with Geese?

The "great experiment " is moving over to Express now. Since it was not allowed to coach at legacy it will be now coaching channys 2nd team. Good luck with that one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So it sounds like most kids play with both their club team and their town team. That can get a little confusing if they are running different schemes. Wouldn't be surprised if the club teams somehow join the town leagues or create their own league like what was done in Maryland. Just moved here so trying to see what to do with my son.

The PAL leagues on LI are VERY community centric - there are strict rules about who can or cannot play for your community team. It is structured to allow everyone to play in as even a setting as possible. Thus, no club teams will ever be part of PAL due to the total non-community aspects of those teams. Having a dedicated league for the club-based teams, as they do in MD, is a tough sell because many community PAL teams will fold without their club players - the numbers in many towns won't support a PAL team without them, and I don't see boys playing on both a PAL team and in a league with club teams - the conflicts in time - games and practice - are too much. It's a debate had here on BOTC many times previously. The other issue is the level of play for many PAL teams is [ChillLaxin] poor for those players that are on travel teams - the only PAL solution is for those players to play up, but that doesn't happen as much as it should.

Many of the major club teams on LI are year round. You have to find the right balance and try to be fair to all parties. We pretty much prioritize by season. In the fall, football gets priority over lax, winter basketball and spring town lax over travel. Although I would most likely not have my kid miss a travel lax practice for a town/PAL practice since they get more personally out of the travel lacrosse practices and the town team still gets the benefit. Some might disagree with that, however, and that is their choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the "great experiment " with Geese?

The "great experiment " is moving over to Express now. Since it was not allowed to coach at legacy it will be now coaching channys 2nd team. Good luck with that one.

Wait? Who? Is this the former Blast coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the "great experiment " with Geese?

The "great experiment " is moving over to Express now. Since it was not allowed to coach at legacy it will be now coaching channys 2nd team. Good luck with that one.

Are you saying Chan is going to split his team? He mentioned doing it last year but obviously he didnt. I wonder if there is any truth to this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the "great experiment " with Geese?

The "great experiment " is moving over to Express now. Since it was not allowed to coach at legacy it will be now coaching channys 2nd team. Good luck with that one.

That didn't take long!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the "great experiment " with Geese?

The "great experiment " is moving over to Express now. Since it was not allowed to coach at legacy it will be now coaching channys 2nd team. Good luck with that one.

Are you saying Chan is going to split his team? He mentioned doing it last year but obviously he didnt. I wonder if there is any truth to this.

I am sure soon we will see. Might even find out tonight!!

So your son gets invited to the top team and let's shuffle
Lol, you'll justify nowmand.look back and say "what heck was I thinking?"

I hope this is all rumor.

I have to coach ! Don't you people understand I played at Maryland! I mean I once played a game in the state of Maryland!! I mean I really played at Adelphi but saying I played at Maryland sounds so much cooler and if I tell enough people then it actually becomes true . So please let me coach...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have to coach ! Don't you people understand I played at Maryland! I mean I once played a game in the state of Maryland!! I mean I really played at Adelphi but saying I played at Maryland sounds so much cooler and if I tell enough people then it actually becomes true . So please let me coach...

So he's leaving the Geese with Geese kids to go to Express?

YES done deal in SPRING

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YES done deal in SPRING

The cancer keeps spreading.

Sad for the kids, how many will be leaving the geese.

No one is leaving Geese. Why would they? Geese and Express are the top teams. There will always be kids who will move from Geese to Express (and vice-versa) trying to jockey for a little more playing time. Some kids looking for a bigger role may go down to Ducks or Blast (the next tier, IMO). They could also be moving for geographic reasons. But right now, Geese are in great shape. They have not lost anyone of consequence and will again contend with Express as the top team in the age group (on LI). Anyone who says different is someone trying to start issues where no issues exist.

Your opinion stinks if you don't recognize Blast as a top team, IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your opinion stinks if you don't recognize Blast as a top team, IMO

Is this from a Blastard or one of the pole dancing mothers? Go back in your hole, you goblin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your opinion stinks if you don't recognize Blast as a top team, IMO

Is this from a Blastard or one of the pole dancing mothers? Go back in your hole, you goblin.

Better a pole dancer than a fat slob... just sayin

GAME-SET-MATCH...well played

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one is leaving Geese. Why would they? Geese and Express are the top teams. There will always be kids who will move from Geese to Express (and vice-versa) trying to jockey for a little more playing time. Some kids looking for a bigger role may go down to Ducks or Blast (the next tier, IMO). They could also be moving for geographic reasons. But right now, Geese are in great shape. They have not lost anyone of consequence and will again contend with Express as the top team in the age group (on LI). Anyone who says different is someone trying to start issues where no issues exist.

The problem with the Geese is they have a few crazy parents who are always looking to go wherever the wind blows. For instance, there were some shopping around 2 years ago when Geese kept losing to Blast. Last year it was Express. They won’t stop until their kid is on THE top team (right now, Express). The other clubs A like Express, Blast and Ducks don’t have that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your opinion stinks if you don't recognize Blast as a top team, IMO

Is this from a Blastard or one of the pole dancing mothers? Go back in your hole, you goblin.

#metoo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one is leaving Geese. Why would they? Geese and Express are the top teams. There will always be kids who will move from Geese to Express (and vice-versa) trying to jockey for a little more playing time. Some kids looking for a bigger role may go down to Ducks or Blast (the next tier, IMO). They could also be moving for geographic reasons. But right now, Geese are in great shape. They have not lost anyone of consequence and will again contend with Express as the top team in the age group (on LI). Anyone who says different is someone trying to start issues where no issues exist.

The problem with the Geese is they have a few crazy parents who are always looking to go wherever the wind blows. For instance, there were some shopping around 2 years ago when Geese kept losing to Blast. Last year it was Express. They won’t stop until their kid is on THE top team (right now, Express). The other clubs A like Express, Blast and Ducks don’t have that.

The problem is the Express doesn't say no. Just go with 22 kids and split the teams. Everyone would be happier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one is leaving Geese. Why would they? Geese and Express are the top teams. There will always be kids who will move from Geese to Express (and vice-versa) trying to jockey for a little more playing time. Some kids looking for a bigger role may go down to Ducks or Blast (the next tier, IMO). They could also be moving for geographic reasons. But right now, Geese are in great shape. They have not lost anyone of consequence and will again contend with Express as the top team in the age group (on LI). Anyone who says different is someone trying to start issues where no issues exist.

The problem with the Geese is they have a few crazy parents who are always looking to go wherever the wind blows. For instance, there were some shopping around 2 years ago when Geese kept losing to Blast. Last year it was Express. They won’t stop until their kid is on THE top team (right now, Express). The other clubs A like Express, Blast and Ducks don’t have that.

The problem is the Express doesn't say no. Just go with 22 kids and split the teams. Everyone would be happier.

Then the club's expenses double. Coach payroll, tournament entry fees, and practices. The break-even point for the larger clubs is around 18 kids. Every kid over 18 is profit. 30 players - 18 break-even = 12 kids pure profit. If you run 2 teams of 22 then you have 44 kids - 36 = 8 kids are profit. The bottom line is the more kids you can pack on one team, the more money the club makes. And the practices are great!

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

Well said. There are pros and cons either way. Its just not about lacrosse. But considering a lot of lax parents and club coaches/directors are nuts i am sure you are getting more direct opinions to have your son play down.
Do what is right for you and your son. If your son is good enough he will play, he doesn't need to play down !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

Translation - "Don't take my kids spot with your cheating wanna be holdback! I don't want to have to spend my summers whispering about you behind your back."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

Translation - "Don't take my kids spot with your cheating wanna be holdback! I don't want to have to spend my summers whispering about you behind your back."

Or to your face...Cheating weasel!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

Translation - "Don't take my kids spot with your cheating wanna be holdback! I don't want to have to spend my summers whispering about you behind your back."

Your right. Basically every parent on your team will hate you, for cheating and taking someone else’s position. Your son will earn and own the HOLDBACK title on that team, and become notorious around the area. Right or wrong, that’s the reality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

Translation - "Don't take my kids spot with your cheating wanna be holdback! I don't want to have to spend my summers whispering about you behind your back."

Ha ha ha . Very good ! ! That was a great translation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

Translation - "Don't take my kids spot with your cheating wanna be holdback! I don't want to have to spend my summers whispering about you behind your back."

Or to your face...Cheating weasel!!!!

It's not cheating if Chan says so. He's the expert on dishonesty in youth lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

Translation - "Don't take my kids spot with your cheating wanna be holdback! I don't want to have to spend my summers whispering about you behind your back."

Or to your face...Cheating weasel!!!!

WSYL will be dead in two years. NLF's The Club National Championships (ESPN coverage) & USLaccross Nationals is going to kill it. No one from East Coast will want to head to Denver on the 4th of July when they can watch their kids play on ESPN for multiple years at NLF.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

I agree let him stay and play with the 2024's right now. When the WSYL comes around in 2 yrs let him tryout for a 2025 team then.

Any opinions on the Warrior games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any opinions on the Warrior games?

I'll be at Chucky Cheese. You should get off this forum and check it out for yourself if you are looking for a good time. Same BS post on 2024 thread.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any opinions on the Warrior games?

I'll be at Chucky Cheese. You should get off this forum and check it out for yourself if you are looking for a good time. Same BS post on 2024 thread.

It's not a BS question. It's a valid question. And looking to find out opinion from people who went last year and/or tried out last year.
It has nothing to do with whatever is going on with the 2024 thread. I don't have a 2024 kid.

But you have a nice time at Chucky Cheese. My son loved the place when he was 4.

Anyone else with some real experience with the Warrior games able to give any insight?

Kids had fun, received a ton of gear and got to know players they normally are competing against. Thinking it was probably a pretty enjoyable experience for parents also, playing time was evenly spread out amongst team. This year the 2025's are able to tryout for the 2024-2025 LI region NLC team. The NLC has been around for 9-10 yrs and is proposed as Academy training from various level College and HS coaches for the 1st 2 days and then compete against other regions for the final 2 days. Good options for the boys now as they get older, both seem like great experiences.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays 2024 (he is in 6th grade) He is a very good player, but won't make the top 3 2024 teams(he is close) . I attribute much of that to his maturity. He was born 10/06 and we did not hold him back. I watch the top 2025 teams play all the time and I know he could start on any of those teams. I have heard that there will be some 2024 boys born after the Aug 31st 06 deadline trying out next year and or the following year for 2025's ,as so to be able to play in world series. I checked out the rules and it is dob, not graduation year. Are there 2024's on any of the top teams as of now? I was told yes? Seems a bit pre-mature but was wondering how it is working out for them and how most people feel about that transition and there feelings on the transition of 2024 on age boys on there way?

You are correct, completely legal in spite of the complaining on this board. Rumor has it Express brought down a 2024 or two to their 2025 team already and it looked like it created some problems.

We have a few kids with late 2006 birthdays on the team October - December. They are true holdbacks and are in the same grade as the other kids and have been on the team since the beginning. These kids are in the 5th grade and socially are 5th graders. They have 5th-grade friends and 5th-grade interests. They may be a few months older but no one knows or cares. As far as the kids are concerned, they're all the same age.

However, you're talking about a kid who is socially more mature adapting being with socially less mature kids. As a parent, you have to ask yourself, will my son enjoy being with the little kids? Because that grade makes a difference socially. When he's in 7th grade, would he hang out with the 6th graders at school? Probably not. Personally, I wouldn't do it for that reason alone. It may be legal but it has to have some negative impact on your son.

It is “legal” for your boy to play on a WSYL team (in two years) based on his birthday. For now, your 6th grade 2024 boy, no matter what age or Birthday is going to be cheating/playing down.

Don’t fall into the trap, have a little integrity!

Translation - "Don't take my kids spot with your cheating wanna be holdback! I don't want to have to spend my summers whispering about you behind your back."

Or to your face...Cheating weasel!!!!

It's not cheating if Chan says so. He's the expert on dishonesty in youth lacrosse.

The weasel remark is so ignorant. So I am to understand you are ok with the on age 6th grader playing in 2 yrs but not now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kids had fun, received a ton of gear and got to know players they normally are competing against. Thinking it was probably a pretty enjoyable experience for parents also, playing time was evenly spread out amongst team. This year the 2025's are able to tryout for the 2024-2025 LI region NLC team. The NLC has been around for 9-10 yrs and is proposed as Academy training from various level College and HS coaches for the 1st 2 days and then compete against other regions for the final 2 days. Good options for the boys now as they get older, both seem like great experiences.

Thank you.
Does one or the other hand to attract the better players?
If a child could only afford to go to one, which one would be the best choice?

Warrior games were fun last year. It was a great opportunity for kids to play with kids from other teams, as well as maybe play other positions than they normally do. They were generous with gear as well. Competition from the other teams sucked, but it was still a great time all around. My son loved it.

The weasel remark is so ignorant. So I am to understand you are ok with the on age 6th grader playing in 2 yrs but not now?

I'm OK when rules are set and followed whatever they are.

So when the WSYL teams are set (age based) then a kid that fits, fits, everyone plays by the same rules and provides proof.

Now in a grade based system a kid that is currently in 6th grade (a 2024) should not be playing 2025, especially when Chan has invented the top secret "we are going to play your kid down because he got cut from the 2024 A Team rule" only for Express.

It is cheating. You weasel!

Both great experiences for the players... Warrior offers great gear, tournament and a few team practices. Overall for a 1st year event they did a good job and will probably be even better this year. The NLC for the 1st 2 days offers Academy type of [ChillLaxin]/ clinic format but unlike most camps/ clinics the kids are for the most part all talented. The last 2 days the regions compete against each other. Warrior has 2 LI teams (North&South) now so making it might be easier and the NLC is a combo team (24&25). I'm assuming the 25's will have to really standout but there is a bunch of talent in this group so they should do well. IMO you can't lose if your son makes either event. Good luck!

The Warrior event for the 2025's was mostly Blast and Chan's kids... hopefully this year Igloo, Ducks and Geese have more of a presence at the 2 events. All 5 are talented teams with some really good players on each!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Warrior event for the 2025's was mostly Blast and Chan's kids... hopefully this year Igloo, Ducks and Geese have more of a presence at the 2 events. All 5 are talented teams with some really good players on each!

Mostly Chan and Blast kids because that's where the talent is duh. But with a North/South split there will be more room for the rest of the bottom feeder clubs and more dollars flowing into 91 and Chan's pocket. Everybody get's a trophy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The weasel remark is so ignorant. So I am to understand you are ok with the on age 6th grader playing in 2 yrs but not now?

I'm OK when rules are set and followed whatever they are.

So when the WSYL teams are set (age based) then a kid that fits, fits, everyone plays by the same rules and provides proof.

Now in a grade based system a kid that is currently in 6th grade (a 2024) should not be playing 2025, especially when Chan has invented the top secret "we are going to play your kid down because he got cut from the 2024 A Team rule" only for Express.

It is cheating. You weasel!

Its Not cheating!!! ... When the WSYL comes around for this group in 2-yrs. If the boys are of age Let them try out. No parent in there right mind should say anything about a kid who is of the correct age playing in this tournament.

The warrior games were a complete waste of $$ last year. There was absolutely no competition there for the Long Island team. If you feel like flushing $1500 -$2000 down the toilet sign your kid up.

Read the rules. You can’t just play in this tournament you have to compete with your team on a regular basis. The only way a player can play is if they graduate in 2025. Unless you plan on holding your 2024 kid back a grade so he will graduate in 2025 then he can’t play in the WSYL for 2025 doesn’t matter if his birthday fits the age requirement.

Sounds like NLC is a better option, been around for years and 1/2 the price.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read the rules. You can’t just play in this tournament you have to compete with your team on a regular basis. The only way a player can play is if they graduate in 2025. Unless you plan on holding your 2024 kid back a grade so he will graduate in 2025 then he can’t play in the WSYL for 2025 doesn’t matter if his birthday fits the age requirement.

Wrong! It states he has to be on the roster and play in 2 other tournaments with the team, then show proof of DOB at the qualifier.If the kids are born after Aug.31st 2006 they are allowed to participate. STOP already. Let the kids play. Don't penalize the kid because his parents did not hold him back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read the rules. You can’t just play in this tournament you have to compete with your team on a regular basis. The only way a player can play is if they graduate in 2025. Unless you plan on holding your 2024 kid back a grade so he will graduate in 2025 then he can’t play in the WSYL for 2025 doesn’t matter if his birthday fits the age requirement.

Reading comprehension is not your thing. And you keep using grade based numbers as your argument which shows how completely you do not comprehend what this tournament is or what the rules are. 3 tournaments with the same roster is the requirement, and the qualifier counts. Whatever grade you are in has zero to do with it. Why is this so difficult for you?

So let's get back to it and summarize, just follow the rules.

Not Cheating.
2024 of the correct age playing with mostly 2025's also of correct age two years from now in the WSYL.

Cheating Weasel.
2024 of the WSYL age (or any age) playing with 2025's now in grade based tournaments.

Simple.

Don't be a Weasel.

This loser still whining about a kid plying in a meaningless fall tournament??? Good Christ, get a grip. What are you going to say when you have to play Maryland teams that have some double holdbacks. Or Massachusetts/Maryland teams that have kids playing based on expected grad year instead of current? Thats reality, Chief. You’re in for a bumpy disappointing ride. You may want to stock up on tampons.

You had me until the tampon comment. Why do you have to be a total d-bag sexist? Scared for the future if you
are raising your son to be anything like you. Your poor wife.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You had me until the tampon comment. Why do you have to be a total d-bag sexist? Scared for the future if you
are raising your son to be anything like you. Your poor wife.

He probably got beat up by a girl and can't live it down. Or one laughed at his little trooper.

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

"that's where the talent is" it has some good kids , some mediocre and some who want the jersery. Like every other team. Get off the meth pipe...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

You'll get no argument from me!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

Blend the two in two years ! Now blending is cheating

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

Blend the two in two years ! Now blending is cheating

Just move lax to age-based play like every other youth sport already figured out!

Anyone know 2025 Chan schedule?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

Ok, but why do you east coast people have such a hard time understanding dates? It's kind of weird honestly. Why do graduation years keep being mentioned when they have nothing to do with the WSYL? I really do not understand the confusion, it's not that hard!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

Ok, but why do you east coast people have such a hard time understanding dates? It's kind of weird honestly. Why do graduation years keep being mentioned when they have nothing to do with the WSYL? I really do not understand the confusion, it's not that hard!

They are not that swift out in Suffolk County.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

Ok, but why do you east coast people have such a hard time understanding dates? It's kind of weird honestly. Why do graduation years keep being mentioned when they have nothing to do with the WSYL? I really do not understand the confusion, it's not that hard!

They are not that swift out in Suffolk County.

Swift enough to know a 6th grader should be playing 2024 and that anything else is cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know 2025 Chan schedule?

yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

Ok, but why do you east coast people have such a hard time understanding dates? It's kind of weird honestly. Why do graduation years keep being mentioned when they have nothing to do with the WSYL? I really do not understand the confusion, it's not that hard!

They are not that swift out in Suffolk County.

Swift enough to know a 6th grader should be playing 2024 and that anything else is cheating.

I'm a total advocate for age-based play, so cannot figure out why you are continuing to [ChillLaxin] about an age-based tournament (WSWL), and using grade based criteria as the basis of your bitching. wth?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t play on a 2025 team if your graduation year is 2024. So the date of birth being after 8/31/06 for WSYL is irrelevant if the player is 2024 graduation year. If your young ‘06 player can’t make an elite A team in the 2024 level that shouldn’t be the problem of the 2025 kids. Get your kid some quality training and maybe he could make an elite 2024 team this summer.

WSYL is an age-based tournament - eligibility has zero to do with graduation year/grade, ONLY DOB. It's really not that hard, and there is no inherent benefit in such a criteria for a player that is in either the 'on-age' grade or not; you're either born between the cutoff dates or you're not, and whether you might have some slight differences in social maturation based upon grade is really irrelevant for a 365-day window. And that's the way all of lacrosse should be!

I dont think people expected the WSYL to be as successful as its been and now people see age can work, but grade isn't changing. So things get stuck in this odd state of folks trying to blend the two.

Ok, but why do you east coast people have such a hard time understanding dates? It's kind of weird honestly. Why do graduation years keep being mentioned when they have nothing to do with the WSYL? I really do not understand the confusion, it's not that hard!

They are not that swift out in Suffolk County.

Swift enough to know a 6th grader should be playing 2024 and that anything else is cheating.

wow east coast.... swift enough to not understand basic, and I mean basic, numbers. Being in 6th grade does not matter, being a 2024 does not matter, height and weight does not matter, hair color does not matter, language spoken, you guessed it, does not matter. The ONLY thing that matters is your birthday. I'm starting to think you are the parent of a holdback who is being left out and you hate being exposed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know 2025 Chan schedule?

yes

Playing as 2024 after USLacrosse put in their age verification process.

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?

No, Chan would never cheat!

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?----
They have multiple players that are 6th graders that play on a 5th grade team. I have proof that the Attackman who they run their entire offense through isn't even eligible for World series!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?----
They have multiple players that are 6th graders that play on a 5th grade team. I have proof that the Attackman who they run their entire offense through isn't even eligible for World series!!!!!

When you consider that LIE has multiple teams at many grade levels, roster sizes that approach t hat of a college team, there's really no reason for them to have boys playing down, even by the loose standards that club lax employs. When people say club lacrosse is the wild west due to no governance, it isn't hyperbole - it's fact!

Proof?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Proof?

Proof of what? How hard is it for you to use the "Quote" button?? !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?----
They have multiple players that are 6th graders that play on a 5th grade team. I have proof that the Attackman who they run their entire offense through isn't even eligible for World series!!!!!

What proof?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?----
They have multiple players that are 6th graders that play on a 5th grade team. I have proof that the Attackman who they run their entire offense through isn't even eligible for World series!!!!!

What proof?

Probably just means this guy knows his birthday within a reasonable degree of certainty, which is not hard considering the six degrees of separation which exists in suburbia. And said birthday is before September 1 (or whatever the cutoff is), 2006. And its incorrect to say he wouldn't be eligible for WSYL. He would just not be eligible the same year his teammates go. He would be eligible this year, and next.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?----
They have multiple players that are 6th graders that play on a 5th grade team. I have proof that the Attackman who they run their entire offense through isn't even eligible for World series!!!!!

When you consider that LIE has multiple teams at many grade levels, roster sizes that approach t hat of a college team, there's really no reason for them to have boys playing down, even by the loose standards that club lax employs. When people say club lacrosse is the wild west due to no governance, it isn't hyperbole - it's fact!

But Junior has to play on the A Team! Waaaaaaaaaa!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?----
They have multiple players that are 6th graders that play on a 5th grade team. I have proof that the Attackman who they run their entire offense through isn't even eligible for World series!!!!!

When you consider that LIE has multiple teams at many grade levels, roster sizes that approach t hat of a college team, there's really no reason for them to have boys playing down, even by the loose standards that club lax employs. When people say club lacrosse is the wild west due to no governance, it isn't hyperbole - it's fact!

But Junior has to play on the A Team! Waaaaaaaaaa!

But is it A', A'', or A'''??

Thoughts on the correct height for a d pole at this age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on the correct height for a d pole at this age?

Cut the stick so the middle of the head lines up with kids eyes, this will give you a couple years and buy a new shaft when his eyes line up with the top of the head. Thats what we did my sons, they both have been playing lp since they were little.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on the correct height for a d pole at this age?

Cut the stick so the middle of the head lines up with kids eyes, this will give you a couple years and buy a new shaft when his eyes line up with the top of the head. Thats what we did my sons, they both have been playing lp since they were little.

If your boy is smaller, go buy a goalie shaft and start there. No paying for length you just cut off anyway.

No length jokes please

Are Blast, Express and Geese actually playing in the same tournament tomorrow? That doesn’t happen too often. I think it’s a box tournament, so the edge would go to 91 because they’ve been playing a lot of box this winter. It’s nit the same game as field at all. I think Express, the best field team, probably comes in third of the three in this one.

91 is a girls team that is playing box tomorrow.

It’s legacy B team

With some Geese

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is a girls team that is playing box tomorrow.

Its not even a 91 team its yellow jackets girls with JS coaching. I wonder why 91 was okay with them using their name.

Where was 9d1? Did they no show at Chelsea?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is a girls team that is playing box tomorrow.

Its not even a 91 team its yellow jackets girls with JS coaching. I wonder why 91 was okay with them using their name.

Because they are partners

The 2025 girls team was never coming it was supposed to be one of the 91 boys teams I had heard 91 tri state

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where was 9d1? Did they no show at Chelsea?

The "91" team entered in Chelsea was Joe Spallina's girls team that has nothing to do with 91. They are not a 91 team. They have nothing to do with 91 other than Spallina is their coach.

Typical 91 and Spallina not showing up for a tournament and if the team is registered under 91 then they represent him . How do you have a team in a tournament and not show up that is just wrong . TYPICAL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2025 girls team was never coming it was supposed to be one of the 91 boys teams I had heard 91 tri state

You heard wrong. JS booked it. Not 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?----
They have multiple players that are 6th graders that play on a 5th grade team. I have proof that the Attackman who they run their entire offense through isn't even eligible for World series!!!!!

What proof?

He is an 2005 baby.
He played on the 2024 team last year.
He is really small,but plays well against kids much younger but same height.HUNTER

Hey! I don't like kids playing down based off of age. If he is born after Aug. 1st 2006 I really don't care. BUT don't use his name!! Regardless

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question, is it true that Express has a 6th grader playing 2025 this year?----
They have multiple players that are 6th graders that play on a 5th grade team. I have proof that the Attackman who they run their entire offense through isn't even eligible for World series!!!!!

What proof?

He is an 2005 baby.
He played on the 2024 team last year.
He is really small,but plays well against kids much younger but same height.HUNTER

He's a December 2006 birthday.
He played up with the 2024 team last year.
He's small, which is why his parents decided to have him play with his own grade.

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

For the record, the boy in question is not a 2024. He is a legitimate 2025; not even a holdback. He just happens to have an early birthday.

However, even if a situation like that arises on a team, I'm not sure a parent has much of a leg to stand on. If they are not happy with the team, their are some 40+ other options for them to choose from on LI. That parent has to make a decision. Do they want what's truly best for their child (ie: find another team that allows the player to start) or do they stay on the team for the sole reason of having the ability to tell people that their son is on the best team.

Furthermore, since the only tournaments that actually require age/roster verification are age based tournaments, I don't see how this will ever come up. 95+% of the quality tournaments on the East Coast are grade based tournaments. I've had 3 sons go through the travel process and never had to produce a birth certificate, report card or notarized document. To ask a single team to produce such documents without asking every other team would be unjust.

Before you counter with, "Then they should ask every team", understand that it's not going to happen. Directors cheat, coaches cheat and parents cheat. That's the world we live in. Parents will doctor birth certificates if they think their kid will obtain an edge. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, I wish the whole system went to age-based like football/soccer/hockey. But, there's just too much money being made right now for club directors or tournament directors to change anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

For the record, the boy in question is not a 2024. He is a legitimate 2025; not even a holdback. He just happens to have an early birthday.

However, even if a situation like that arises on a team, I'm not sure a parent has much of a leg to stand on. If they are not happy with the team, their are some 40+ other options for them to choose from on LI. That parent has to make a decision. Do they want what's truly best for their child (ie: find another team that allows the player to start) or do they stay on the team for the sole reason of having the ability to tell people that their son is on the best team.

Furthermore, since the only tournaments that actually require age/roster verification are age based tournaments, I don't see how this will ever come up. 95+% of the quality tournaments on the East Coast are grade based tournaments. I've had 3 sons go through the travel process and never had to produce a birth certificate, report card or notarized document. To ask a single team to produce such documents without asking every other team would be unjust.

Before you counter with, "Then they should ask every team", understand that it's not going to happen. Directors cheat, coaches cheat and parents cheat. That's the world we live in. Parents will doctor birth certificates if they think their kid will obtain an edge. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, I wish the whole system went to age-based like football/soccer/hockey. But, there's just too much money being made right now for club directors or tournament directors to change anything.

No argument on your post, except for the fact that somehow going to age-based play would mean a reduction in money made. I would argue that the improvement to the sport would attract and keep more players, which means growth, which means more money. What MIGHT occur is that certain current players in the sport - the big clubs - MIGHT lose share and/or power over the sport. But, even that is a "MIGHT", not definite.

On side note, a certain guy from 2024 MadLax will tell you that they always have to submit full player info - DOB, age, grade, etc, etc - to all tourneys, which many on BOTC have called BS to him on . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

For the record, the boy in question is not a 2024. He is a legitimate 2025; not even a holdback. He just happens to have an early birthday.

However, even if a situation like that arises on a team, I'm not sure a parent has much of a leg to stand on. If they are not happy with the team, their are some 40+ other options for them to choose from on LI. That parent has to make a decision. Do they want what's truly best for their child (ie: find another team that allows the player to start) or do they stay on the team for the sole reason of having the ability to tell people that their son is on the best team.

Furthermore, since the only tournaments that actually require age/roster verification are age based tournaments, I don't see how this will ever come up. 95+% of the quality tournaments on the East Coast are grade based tournaments. I've had 3 sons go through the travel process and never had to produce a birth certificate, report card or notarized document. To ask a single team to produce such documents without asking every other team would be unjust.

Before you counter with, "Then they should ask every team", understand that it's not going to happen. Directors cheat, coaches cheat and parents cheat. That's the world we live in. Parents will doctor birth certificates if they think their kid will obtain an edge. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, I wish the whole system went to age-based like football/soccer/hockey. But, there's just too much money being made right now for club directors or tournament directors to change anything.

No argument on your post, except for the fact that somehow going to age-based play would mean a reduction in money made. I would argue that the improvement to the sport would attract and keep more players, which means growth, which means more money. What MIGHT occur is that certain current players in the sport - the big clubs - MIGHT lose share and/or power over the sport. But, even that is a "MIGHT", not definite.

On side note, a certain guy from 2024 MadLax will tell you that they always have to submit full player info - DOB, age, grade, etc, etc - to all tourneys, which many on BOTC have called BS to him on . . .

I raised the question not as a specific case, but in general. Because as you say, people look for an edge. I think it will get somebody, coach, parent, whomever to the point where they ask for a roster verification. For example, schedule comes out on Wednesday and a coach in the division asks for jersey #'s and current grade of each opponent. Is that so bad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

For the record, the boy in question is not a 2024. He is a legitimate 2025; not even a holdback. He just happens to have an early birthday.

However, even if a situation like that arises on a team, I'm not sure a parent has much of a leg to stand on. If they are not happy with the team, their are some 40+ other options for them to choose from on LI. That parent has to make a decision. Do they want what's truly best for their child (ie: find another team that allows the player to start) or do they stay on the team for the sole reason of having the ability to tell people that their son is on the best team.

Furthermore, since the only tournaments that actually require age/roster verification are age based tournaments, I don't see how this will ever come up. 95+% of the quality tournaments on the East Coast are grade based tournaments. I've had 3 sons go through the travel process and never had to produce a birth certificate, report card or notarized document. To ask a single team to produce such documents without asking every other team would be unjust.

Before you counter with, "Then they should ask every team", understand that it's not going to happen. Directors cheat, coaches cheat and parents cheat. That's the world we live in. Parents will doctor birth certificates if they think their kid will obtain an edge. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, I wish the whole system went to age-based like football/soccer/hockey. But, there's just too much money being made right now for club directors or tournament directors to change anything.

No argument on your post, except for the fact that somehow going to age-based play would mean a reduction in money made. I would argue that the improvement to the sport would attract and keep more players, which means growth, which means more money. What MIGHT occur is that certain current players in the sport - the big clubs - MIGHT lose share and/or power over the sport. But, even that is a "MIGHT", not definite.

On side note, a certain guy from 2024 MadLax will tell you that they always have to submit full player info - DOB, age, grade, etc, etc - to all tourneys, which many on BOTC have called BS to him on . . .

I raised the question not as a specific case, but in general. Because as you say, people look for an edge. I think it will get somebody, coach, parent, whomever to the point where they ask for a roster verification. For example, schedule comes out on Wednesday and a coach in the division asks for jersey #'s and current grade of each opponent. Is that so bad?

The opposing coach will tell him to show him the rule for roster verification, when it is noted that no such rule exists he will tell him to go F himself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

For the record, the boy in question is not a 2024. He is a legitimate 2025; not even a holdback. He just happens to have an early birthday.

However, even if a situation like that arises on a team, I'm not sure a parent has much of a leg to stand on. If they are not happy with the team, their are some 40+ other options for them to choose from on LI. That parent has to make a decision. Do they want what's truly best for their child (ie: find another team that allows the player to start) or do they stay on the team for the sole reason of having the ability to tell people that their son is on the best team.

Furthermore, since the only tournaments that actually require age/roster verification are age based tournaments, I don't see how this will ever come up. 95+% of the quality tournaments on the East Coast are grade based tournaments. I've had 3 sons go through the travel process and never had to produce a birth certificate, report card or notarized document. To ask a single team to produce such documents without asking every other team would be unjust.

Before you counter with, "Then they should ask every team", understand that it's not going to happen. Directors cheat, coaches cheat and parents cheat. That's the world we live in. Parents will doctor birth certificates if they think their kid will obtain an edge. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, I wish the whole system went to age-based like football/soccer/hockey. But, there's just too much money being made right now for club directors or tournament directors to change anything.

For the record? Your sources are incorrect. The boy in question is in 6th grade. Fact! Again I don't care what grade he is in as long as he was born after the Aug.31st 06 cutoff date. He is small, and yes he is good.but make no doubt about it, unless they held him back this year he was in the 5th grade last year.And I don't think anyone should use his name on the site. Thats just wrong.

can I hold my son back just to get out of this years chat room thread?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

For the record, the boy in question is not a 2024. He is a legitimate 2025; not even a holdback. He just happens to have an early birthday.

However, even if a situation like that arises on a team, I'm not sure a parent has much of a leg to stand on. If they are not happy with the team, their are some 40+ other options for them to choose from on LI. That parent has to make a decision. Do they want what's truly best for their child (ie: find another team that allows the player to start) or do they stay on the team for the sole reason of having the ability to tell people that their son is on the best team.

Furthermore, since the only tournaments that actually require age/roster verification are age based tournaments, I don't see how this will ever come up. 95+% of the quality tournaments on the East Coast are grade based tournaments. I've had 3 sons go through the travel process and never had to produce a birth certificate, report card or notarized document. To ask a single team to produce such documents without asking every other team would be unjust.

Before you counter with, "Then they should ask every team", understand that it's not going to happen. Directors cheat, coaches cheat and parents cheat. That's the world we live in. Parents will doctor birth certificates if they think their kid will obtain an edge. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, I wish the whole system went to age-based like football/soccer/hockey. But, there's just too much money being made right now for club directors or tournament directors to change anything.

For the record? Your sources are incorrect. The boy in question is in 6th grade. Fact! Again I don't care what grade he is in as long as he was born after the Aug.31st 06 cutoff date. He is small, and yes he is good.but make no doubt about it, unless they held him back this year he was in the 5th grade last year.And I don't think anyone should use his name on the site. Thats just wrong.

What cutoff date exists in a grade-based system?? (Which is exactly why grade-based systems are what you don't want!)

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Cheating cheaters!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

For the record, the boy in question is not a 2024. He is a legitimate 2025; not even a holdback. He just happens to have an early birthday.

However, even if a situation like that arises on a team, I'm not sure a parent has much of a leg to stand on. If they are not happy with the team, their are some 40+ other options for them to choose from on LI. That parent has to make a decision. Do they want what's truly best for their child (ie: find another team that allows the player to start) or do they stay on the team for the sole reason of having the ability to tell people that their son is on the best team.

Furthermore, since the only tournaments that actually require age/roster verification are age based tournaments, I don't see how this will ever come up. 95+% of the quality tournaments on the East Coast are grade based tournaments. I've had 3 sons go through the travel process and never had to produce a birth certificate, report card or notarized document. To ask a single team to produce such documents without asking every other team would be unjust.

Before you counter with, "Then they should ask every team", understand that it's not going to happen. Directors cheat, coaches cheat and parents cheat. That's the world we live in. Parents will doctor birth certificates if they think their kid will obtain an edge. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, I wish the whole system went to age-based like football/soccer/hockey. But, there's just too much money being made right now for club directors or tournament directors to change anything.

For the record? Your sources are incorrect. The boy in question is in 6th grade. Fact! Again I don't care what grade he is in as long as he was born after the Aug.31st 06 cutoff date. He is small, and yes he is good.but make no doubt about it, unless they held him back this year he was in the 5th grade last year.And I don't think anyone should use his name on the site. Thats just wrong.

What cutoff date exists in a grade-based system?? (Which is exactly why grade-based systems are what you don't want!)

Won’t never change, but you boys keep on bitcoin about it! Hahahahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Keep fishing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how long it will be before a parent or a coach goes up to a tourney director and asks for a roster check. And how that tourney will handle it.

For the record, the boy in question is not a 2024. He is a legitimate 2025; not even a holdback. He just happens to have an early birthday.

However, even if a situation like that arises on a team, I'm not sure a parent has much of a leg to stand on. If they are not happy with the team, their are some 40+ other options for them to choose from on LI. That parent has to make a decision. Do they want what's truly best for their child (ie: find another team that allows the player to start) or do they stay on the team for the sole reason of having the ability to tell people that their son is on the best team.

Furthermore, since the only tournaments that actually require age/roster verification are age based tournaments, I don't see how this will ever come up. 95+% of the quality tournaments on the East Coast are grade based tournaments. I've had 3 sons go through the travel process and never had to produce a birth certificate, report card or notarized document. To ask a single team to produce such documents without asking every other team would be unjust.

Before you counter with, "Then they should ask every team", understand that it's not going to happen. Directors cheat, coaches cheat and parents cheat. That's the world we live in. Parents will doctor birth certificates if they think their kid will obtain an edge. I don't agree with it. As a matter of fact, I wish the whole system went to age-based like football/soccer/hockey. But, there's just too much money being made right now for club directors or tournament directors to change anything.

For the record? Your sources are incorrect. The boy in question is in 6th grade. Fact! Again I don't care what grade he is in as long as he was born after the Aug.31st 06 cutoff date. He is small, and yes he is good.but make no doubt about it, unless they held him back this year he was in the 5th grade last year.And I don't think anyone should use his name on the site. Thats just wrong.

What cutoff date exists in a grade-based system?? (Which is exactly why grade-based systems are what you don't want!)

Won’t never change, but you boys keep on bitcoin about it! Hahahahahaha

Bitcoin??

2024 & 2025 NLC tryouts Friday night at SUSA. Both age groups have a lot of talent, should be a very good team when it's all said and done. I haven't spoke with anyone who has a kid that played in this and didn't think it was a great event. Looking forward to the tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2024 & 2025 NLC tryouts Friday night at SUSA. Both age groups have a lot of talent, should be a very good team when it's all said and done. I haven't spoke with anyone who has a kid that played in this and didn't think it was a great event. Looking forward to the tryouts.

So in addition to the daily ridiculous spamming you are going to post on the 24 and 25 message board???

Why did Brine drop it’s sponsorship? Awful quiet in compared to previous years on which coaches will be there. New recruiting rules have most likely killed this event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

There is no age cutoff to play on a grade based team. Why can't anyone comprehend that??
If this is true and the boy is born on 8/17/06 and playing on a 2025 Express team, it is only cheating if the kid is currently in 6th grade. If he started school late and is currently enrolled in 5th grade then he is not breaking any rules.

Do I agree with it?? Doesn't really matter.....this is what happens with a grade based system. I would love to see an age based system, at least for youth -- really don't care what the cutoff is (Jan 1, May 1, Sept 1). Want to move to a grade based system for 7th/8th grade and beyond for recruiting purposes, go ahead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

There is no age cutoff to play on a grade based team. Why can't anyone comprehend that??
If this is true and the boy is born on 8/17/06 and playing on a 2025 Express team, it is only cheating if the kid is currently in 6th grade. If he started school late and is currently enrolled in 5th grade then he is not breaking any rules.

Do I agree with it?? Doesn't really matter.....this is what happens with a grade based system. I would love to see an age based system, at least for youth -- really don't care what the cutoff is (Jan 1, May 1, Sept 1). Want to move to a grade based system for 7th/8th grade and beyond for recruiting purposes, go ahead.

Age-based play should go right through to U14/14U - there's no reason not to when you consider that achieving puberty is still in play THROUGH these two years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

There is no age cutoff to play on a grade based team. Why can't anyone comprehend that??
If this is true and the boy is born on 8/17/06 and playing on a 2025 Express team, it is only cheating if the kid is currently in 6th grade. If he started school late and is currently enrolled in 5th grade then he is not breaking any rules.

Do I agree with it?? Doesn't really matter.....this is what happens with a grade based system. I would love to see an age based system, at least for youth -- really don't care what the cutoff is (Jan 1, May 1, Sept 1). Want to move to a grade based system for 7th/8th grade and beyond for recruiting purposes, go ahead.

except the Express kid is in 6th. Cheating Cheaters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

There is no age cutoff to play on a grade based team. Why can't anyone comprehend that??
If this is true and the boy is born on 8/17/06 and playing on a 2025 Express team, it is only cheating if the kid is currently in 6th grade. If he started school late and is currently enrolled in 5th grade then he is not breaking any rules.

Do I agree with it?? Doesn't really matter.....this is what happens with a grade based system. I would love to see an age based system, at least for youth -- really don't care what the cutoff is (Jan 1, May 1, Sept 1). Want to move to a grade based system for 7th/8th grade and beyond for recruiting purposes, go ahead.

except the Express kid is in 6th. Cheating Cheaters.

How do you know what grade any of the kids are in? Do we ask for report cards?Oh!! we leave it up to the parents? Looks like that is working out real well. I don't give a rats lax what grade any kid is in. I want to know how old the kids are!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

There is no age cutoff to play on a grade based team. Why can't anyone comprehend that??
If this is true and the boy is born on 8/17/06 and playing on a 2025 Express team, it is only cheating if the kid is currently in 6th grade. If he started school late and is currently enrolled in 5th grade then he is not breaking any rules.

Do I agree with it?? Doesn't really matter.....this is what happens with a grade based system. I would love to see an age based system, at least for youth -- really don't care what the cutoff is (Jan 1, May 1, Sept 1). Want to move to a grade based system for 7th/8th grade and beyond for recruiting purposes, go ahead.

except the Express kid is in 6th. Cheating Cheaters.

How do you know what grade any of the kids are in? Do we ask for report cards?Oh!! we leave it up to the parents? Looks like that is working out real well. I don't give a rats lax what grade any kid is in. I want to know how old the kids are!!!!

Take the kid off the field you still lose.. stop crying..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

There is no age cutoff to play on a grade based team. Why can't anyone comprehend that??
If this is true and the boy is born on 8/17/06 and playing on a 2025 Express team, it is only cheating if the kid is currently in 6th grade. If he started school late and is currently enrolled in 5th grade then he is not breaking any rules.

Do I agree with it?? Doesn't really matter.....this is what happens with a grade based system. I would love to see an age based system, at least for youth -- really don't care what the cutoff is (Jan 1, May 1, Sept 1). Want to move to a grade based system for 7th/8th grade and beyond for recruiting purposes, go ahead.

except the Express kid is in 6th. Cheating Cheaters.

How do you know what grade any of the kids are in? Do we ask for report cards?Oh!! we leave it up to the parents? Looks like that is working out real well. I don't give a rats lax what grade any kid is in. I want to know how old the kids are!!!!

Take the kid off the field you still lose.. stop crying..

agreed,but he is good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

There is no age cutoff to play on a grade based team. Why can't anyone comprehend that??
If this is true and the boy is born on 8/17/06 and playing on a 2025 Express team, it is only cheating if the kid is currently in 6th grade. If he started school late and is currently enrolled in 5th grade then he is not breaking any rules.

Do I agree with it?? Doesn't really matter.....this is what happens with a grade based system. I would love to see an age based system, at least for youth -- really don't care what the cutoff is (Jan 1, May 1, Sept 1). Want to move to a grade based system for 7th/8th grade and beyond for recruiting purposes, go ahead.

except the Express kid is in 6th. Cheating Cheaters.

How do you know what grade any of the kids are in? Do we ask for report cards?Oh!! we leave it up to the parents? Looks like that is working out real well. I don't give a rats lax what grade any kid is in. I want to know how old the kids are!!!!

^th grade and too old....double whammy....cheating cheaters!

Somebody is going to call a teams roster out this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Somebody is going to call a teams roster out this year.

Waste of time. No way to prove it one way or another on tournament day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2024 & 2025 NLC tryouts Friday night at SUSA. Both age groups have a lot of talent, should be a very good team when it's all said and done. I haven't spoke with anyone who has a kid that played in this and didn't think it was a great event. Looking forward to the tryouts.

Have not seen any real talented boys show up to this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Somebody is going to call a teams roster out this year.

Waste of time. No way to prove it one way or another on tournament day.

I've seen a whole team was throw out and another time when a player was told if he plays, he will be called out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Somebody is going to call a teams roster out this year.

Waste of time. No way to prove it one way or another on tournament day.

I've seen a whole team was throw out and another time when a player was told if he plays, he will be called out.

Stop crying and let the kids play lacrosse...grow up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to wish all the people that are Born August 17th, 2006 a great 2025 Express year..... Good Luck! We know who you are and you have been measured............

Wow!!!how do you know the kids dob? deep down are you a little ashamed you posted that? If that dob is true, and he was born before the Aug.31st cutoff date then regardless if it is only 14 days he should be playing with with the 2024's.

There is no age cutoff to play on a grade based team. Why can't anyone comprehend that??
If this is true and the boy is born on 8/17/06 and playing on a 2025 Express team, it is only cheating if the kid is currently in 6th grade. If he started school late and is currently enrolled in 5th grade then he is not breaking any rules.

Do I agree with it?? Doesn't really matter.....this is what happens with a grade based system. I would love to see an age based system, at least for youth -- really don't care what the cutoff is (Jan 1, May 1, Sept 1). Want to move to a grade based system for 7th/8th grade and beyond for recruiting purposes, go ahead.

except the Express kid is in 6th. Cheating Cheaters.

How do you know what grade any of the kids are in? Do we ask for report cards?Oh!! we leave it up to the parents? Looks like that is working out real well. I don't give a rats lax what grade any kid is in. I want to know how old the kids are!!!!

^th grade and too old....double whammy....cheating cheaters!

Get off the couch, get a job and get a life!!

Anyone have any information about the Knights? Thinking of making a move next year because I'm not so impressed with the practice time or attention given to my boys current team. I was told the Knights have 4-5 coaches and they are all Dad's. That situation gets toxic really quickly. Most people pay to play travel so that they don't have to deal with the daddy ball that suffocates PAL. Not only that it's a disservice to their sons who will have issues when it comes time to be coached by someone other than Dad. Been through this with my older boy who plays Div 1 now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any information about the Knights? Thinking of making a move next year because I'm not so impressed with the practice time or attention given to my boys current team. I was told the Knights have 4-5 coaches and they are all Dad's. That situation gets toxic really quickly. Most people pay to play travel so that they don't have to deal with the daddy ball that suffocates PAL. Not only that it's a disservice to their sons who will have issues when it comes time to be coached by someone other than Dad. Been through this with my older boy who plays Div 1 now.

You realize that daddy coaches are sometimes problematic, yet you are considering a team that has not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 (!) fathers coaching a team?!! I don't have anything good or bad to say about this club, but it would appear you are willing to suspend all of your instincts about something to consider what numerically goes against all of those instincts! That is just an invitation to be less than satisfied - it makes zero sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any information about the Knights? Thinking of making a move next year because I'm not so impressed with the practice time or attention given to my boys current team. I was told the Knights have 4-5 coaches and they are all Dad's. That situation gets toxic really quickly. Most people pay to play travel so that they don't have to deal with the daddy ball that suffocates PAL. Not only that it's a disservice to their sons who will have issues when it comes time to be coached by someone other than Dad. Been through this with my older boy who plays Div 1 now.

You realize that daddy coaches are sometimes problematic, yet you are considering a team that has not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 (!) fathers coaching a team?!! I don't have anything good or bad to say about this club, but it would appear you are willing to suspend all of your instincts about something to consider what numerically goes against all of those instincts! That is just an invitation to be less than satisfied - it makes zero sense.

Not considering if its true. That is why I asked the question, this is something I was told so not sure if it's true. Obviously if it's true we will look elsewhere and stay away from that situation. Been around this youth lacrosse too long to not know that ship will sink.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any information about the Knights? Thinking of making a move next year because I'm not so impressed with the practice time or attention given to my boys current team. I was told the Knights have 4-5 coaches and they are all Dad's. That situation gets toxic really quickly. Most people pay to play travel so that they don't have to deal with the daddy ball that suffocates PAL. Not only that it's a disservice to their sons who will have issues when it comes time to be coached by someone other than Dad. Been through this with my older boy who plays Div 1 now.

You realize that daddy coaches are sometimes problematic, yet you are considering a team that has not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 (!) fathers coaching a team?!! I don't have anything good or bad to say about this club, but it would appear you are willing to suspend all of your instincts about something to consider what numerically goes against all of those instincts! That is just an invitation to be less than satisfied - it makes zero sense.

Not considering if its true. That is why I asked the question, this is something I was told so not sure if it's true. Obviously if it's true we will look elsewhere and stay away from that situation. Been around this youth lacrosse too long to not know that ship will sink.

A quick look at their website shows the coaches names and the roster for the team (OT: not a fan of that!), with four roster players having the same last names as the four coaches. I think we can assume it's true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Somebody is going to call a teams roster out this year.

Waste of time. No way to prove it one way or another on tournament day.

I've seen a whole team was throw out and another time when a player was told if he plays, he will be called out.

Stop crying and let the kids play lacrosse...grow up.

Winter is coming

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Somebody is going to call a teams roster out this year.

Waste of time. No way to prove it one way or another on tournament day.

I've seen a whole team was throw out and another time when a player was told if he plays, he will be called out.

It’s simple dummy. Just copy what they do in Maryland. Once school ends you just say he is part of the 5th grade class going into 6th because repeating 6th grade. If you don’t actually do it doesn’t really matter. Say the same thing following summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2024 & 2025 NLC tryouts Friday night at SUSA. Both age groups have a lot of talent, should be a very good team when it's all said and done. I haven't spoke with anyone who has a kid that played in this and didn't think it was a great event. Looking forward to the tryouts.

Have not seen any real talented boys show up to this.

Historically, this event does not draw the top caliber player, which is why they have multiple age groups playing together. This year was no different; however, it looks really good for the 2025's. Very few 2024's showed up so it will likely be predominantly a 2025 team. I didn't see more than 2-3 from Wolfpack or Taz and the ones that did show up were their non-starters. Still good players, not exponentially better than most top 25's. It definitely gives our boys an excellent shot at making the team! And, rumor has it, they will be having 2 teams this year, so most who tried out will be invited to participate; which can be a great experience!

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

The guys that are running it are solid. Nice way to close out the year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

We did it last year. Great experience, but pricey. They do give you a ton of gear for your money though!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

We did it last year. Great experience, but pricey. They do give you a ton of gear for your money though!

Gear like a helmet they can’t wear very much after it’s all over. $2000/2500 for the weekend plus tryouts when you calculate it all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

The Warrior games are well run and make for an outstanding weekend. The top talent on the age group will most likely be there, as well. There will likely be some nepotism at the tryout, but they are super competitive and, for the most part, the best kids make the team. Plus, your son will walk away with a huge bag of swag! The NLC (formerly Brine), on the other hand, is decent but it's mostly a "B" level tournament. Very few quality kids even tryout, and because they combine two grade levels, it's generally mostly the younger grade. It's an excellent opportunity for kids that don't make the Warrior team though. The kids will have a great time, and if that's what it's about (and it should be), then go for it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

We did it last year. Great experience, but pricey. They do give you a ton of gear for your money though!

Gear like a helmet they can’t wear very much after it’s all over. $2000/2500 for the weekend plus tryouts when you calculate it all.

I think everyone has mentioned that it's expensive, but well worth it if you can swing it. I did it with my family last year and it probably cost $1500-$1800 all in (with tryout, tournamant, hotel, food and travel, etc...). I've spent more for less on more than one occasion. I did the Brine with my older son and it was about the same cost and not run as well. Warrior was much more of a bonding experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

We did it last year. Great experience, but pricey. They do give you a ton of gear for your money though!

Gear like a helmet they can’t wear very much after it’s all over. $2000/2500 for the weekend plus tryouts when you calculate it all.

I think everyone has mentioned that it's expensive, but well worth it if you can swing it. I did it with my family last year and it probably cost $1500-$1800 all in (with tryout, tournamant, hotel, food and travel, etc...). I've spent more for less on more than one occasion. I did the Brine with my older son and it was about the same cost and not run as well. Warrior was much more of a bonding experience.

I agree it's a good value, as far as all of the gear you get for the money. And it was a fun weekend for the boys, getting to play along side kids they normally compete against. But there are several problems with it. It is one expensive tournament that your kids really won't get anything out of, besides having a little fun. There's alot of kids on the roster, so playing time is somewhat limited. It is NOT a national tournament, as it is billed. Absolutely NOTHING CLOSE. Mostly Long Island kids and that's why they are spliitting LI up into two to three teams this year, which makes no sense relative to how they are selling the tournament... region bragging rights as best youth region in the county. The tournament is definitely NOT that. There was some decent talent last year, but I have to say that my sons travel club was better. This year there will not be anywhere near the talent they had last year, as everyone I am aware of is not doing it this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

We did it last year. Great experience, but pricey. They do give you a ton of gear for your money though!

Gear like a helmet they can’t wear very much after it’s all over. $2000/2500 for the weekend plus tryouts when you calculate it all.

I think everyone has mentioned that it's expensive, but well worth it if you can swing it. I did it with my family last year and it probably cost $1500-$1800 all in (with tryout, tournamant, hotel, food and travel, etc...). I've spent more for less on more than one occasion. I did the Brine with my older son and it was about the same cost and not run as well. Warrior was much more of a bonding experience.

I agree it's a good value, as far as all of the gear you get for the money. And it was a fun weekend for the boys, getting to play along side kids they normally compete against. But there are several problems with it. It is one expensive tournament that your kids really won't get anything out of, besides having a little fun. There's alot of kids on the roster, so playing time is somewhat limited. It is NOT a national tournament, as it is billed. Absolutely NOTHING CLOSE. Mostly Long Island kids and that's why they are spliitting LI up into two to three teams this year, which makes no sense relative to how they are selling the tournament... region bragging rights as best youth region in the county. The tournament is definitely NOT that. There was some decent talent last year, but I have to say that my sons travel club was better. This year there will not be anywhere near the talent they had last year, as everyone I am aware of is not doing it this year.

Yeah, they said that last year and all went scurrying at the last minute to register. FOMO. Fear of Missing Out.

My son had a great time last year. As others have said, pricey but a lot of gear. 2025 was mostly comprised of express, blast and maybe a geese or two last year. Watching all the kids who usually compete against each other was refreshing. And seeing how much fun the kids had really put all the BS of bickering parents and chest pounding in perspective.

Having more LI teams this year will make it a more competitive tournament than last year.

Last year, some kids made the roster who did not try out. I think the coaches recruited stronger talent from their own travel teams. Maybe this will be rectified this year with two LI teams.

Also, for this tournament to really take off, Maryland teams need to participate. They were not there last year.

Hope that helps!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the Warrior All America Games? Sounds like a great experience if you kid makes the team or am I just paying for gear.

We did it last year. Great experience, but pricey. They do give you a ton of gear for your money though!

Gear like a helmet they can’t wear very much after it’s all over. $2000/2500 for the weekend plus tryouts when you calculate it all.

I think everyone has mentioned that it's expensive, but well worth it if you can swing it. I did it with my family last year and it probably cost $1500-$1800 all in (with tryout, tournamant, hotel, food and travel, etc...). I've spent more for less on more than one occasion. I did the Brine with my older son and it was about the same cost and not run as well. Warrior was much more of a bonding experience.

I agree it's a good value, as far as all of the gear you get for the money. And it was a fun weekend for the boys, getting to play along side kids they normally compete against. But there are several problems with it. It is one expensive tournament that your kids really won't get anything out of, besides having a little fun. There's alot of kids on the roster, so playing time is somewhat limited. It is NOT a national tournament, as it is billed. Absolutely NOTHING CLOSE. Mostly Long Island kids and that's why they are spliitting LI up into two to three teams this year, which makes no sense relative to how they are selling the tournament... region bragging rights as best youth region in the county. The tournament is definitely NOT that. There was some decent talent last year, but I have to say that my sons travel club was better. This year there will not be anywhere near the talent they had last year, as everyone I am aware of is not doing it this year.

Yeah, they said that last year and all went scurrying at the last minute to register. FOMO. Fear of Missing Out.

I disagree. Last year was the first year in existence, so everyone (from on LI) thought it would be cool If your kid made and played on the top team in the country, at his age group. It wasn’t anything close to that scenario. So that is no longer a selling point. Big problem. And I know a lot of parents of top players weren’t happy with playing time. The team had several more players than our travel team and when the game is on the line, the line rotations continued status quo. There is no shortening of the bench, which is great for the less talented kids, but not at all what the top kids are use to. And, it’s not playing to win. So they became disenchanted. Many if not most of those top kids won’t be back. Add the crazy high price tag, and lots of people don’t see the point. Bottom line is, less talent will show up to tryout. which means there will be a lot of open spots. But it all serves to water down the quality of the team, in a big way.

How about a nice weekend with the family doing something everyone obviously enjoys. Spend time together, have some laughs. Maybe, just maybe that is the real value of travel lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a nice weekend with the family doing something everyone obviously enjoys. Spend time together, have some laughs. Maybe, just maybe that is the real value of travel lacrosse.

OK Linus, go back and wrap your blanket around the My Lacrosse Tournament guys and warm them up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Somebody is going to call a teams roster out this year.

Waste of time. No way to prove it one way or another on tournament day.

I've seen a whole team was throw out and another time when a player was told if he plays, he will be called out.

Stop crying and let the kids play lacrosse...grow up.

Express lost to hawks and dukes. All this is much to do about nothing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a nice weekend with the family doing something everyone obviously enjoys. Spend time together, have some laughs. Maybe, just maybe that is the real value of travel lacrosse.

OK Linus, go back and wrap your blanket around the My Lacrosse Tournament guys and warm them up.

LMAO. So true. Bottom line... fun playing with and getting to know other kids and parents. And fun for the kids, with all of the gear... like Christmas under the tree. But it is a very expensive tourney, where playing time is limited, and the product on the field is not as good as your travel team, if your son is on a top team. And, don't get sucked into the 91 marketing machine thinking this is some kind of an All America game. It definitely is nothing close to that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Somebody is going to call a teams roster out this year.

Waste of time. No way to prove it one way or another on tournament day.

I've seen a whole team was throw out and another time when a player was told if he plays, he will be called out.

Stop crying and let the kids play lacrosse...grow up.

Express lost to hawks and dukes. All this is much to do about nothing

and?

all Chan teams got spanked this weekend.guess he needs more holdbacks for the next one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a nice weekend with the family doing something everyone obviously enjoys. Spend time together, have some laughs. Maybe, just maybe that is the real value of travel lacrosse.

OK Linus, go back and wrap your blanket around the My Lacrosse Tournament guys and warm them up.

you live vicariously through your kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a nice weekend with the family doing something everyone obviously enjoys. Spend time together, have some laughs. Maybe, just maybe that is the real value of travel lacrosse.

OK Linus, go back and wrap your blanket around the My Lacrosse Tournament guys and warm them up.

You live vicariously through your kids

Doesn't change Warrior being a good tournament that is fun for the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about a nice weekend with the family doing something everyone obviously enjoys. Spend time together, have some laughs. Maybe, just maybe that is the real value of travel lacrosse.

OK Linus, go back and wrap your blanket around the My Lacrosse Tournament guys and warm them up.

You live vicariously through your children

Doesn't change Warrior being a good tournament that is fun for the kids.

Sound like a real winner, all worked up over a lacrosse game, family....a distant second.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

all Chan teams got spanked this weekend.guess he needs more holdbacks for the next one.

Now unless your son plays for one of those teams, why do you care?

anyone know why the LI Lax Clash was cancelled?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know why the LI Lax Clash was cancelled?

Mixed nuts could not do it so they decided to cancel it ....LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

all Chan teams got spanked this weekend.guess he needs more holdbacks for the next one.

Now unless your son plays for one of those teams, why do you care?

Everyone enjoys watching Cheating Chan lose. We also have fun mimicking his voice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know why the LI Lax Clash was cancelled?

Mixed nuts could not do it so they decided to cancel it ....LOL

Both Mixed Nuts coaches are too busy complaining on this board about a holdback on Chan that they have no time to email their team about tournaments.

But seriously, was LI Lax Clash cancelled or was it just Shamrock? What's a good alternate tournament coming up for town teams?

they will rebound this weekend and make Chan proud!

Express still a head above the rest on LI. Probably have to put Geese next, then Ducks/Blast/Igloo (in any order). All lagging behind a bunch of MD teams, but Express can hang with them the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know why the LI Lax Clash was cancelled?

Mixed nuts could not do it so they decided to cancel it ....LOL

Both Mixed Nuts coaches are too busy complaining on this board about a holdback on Chan that they have no time to email their team about tournaments.

But seriously, was LI Lax Clash cancelled or was it just Shamrock? What's a good alternate tournament coming up for town teams?

Blatant Town Cup in mid April

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Mixed Nuts coaches are too busy complaining on this board about a holdback on Chan that they have no time to email their team about tournaments.

But seriously, was LI Lax Clash cancelled or was it just Shamrock? What's a good alternate tournament coming up for town teams?

Blatant Town Cup in mid April

Which town team will cheat the most in this one? SYAG bringing in ringers? Or will it be Commack? Or will the Nuts play with Sayville or Hills jerseys?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Mixed Nuts coaches are too busy complaining on this board about a holdback on Chan that they have no time to email their team about tournaments.

But seriously, was LI Lax Clash cancelled or was it just Shamrock? What's a good alternate tournament coming up for town teams?

Blatant Town Cup in mid April

Which town team will cheat the most in this one? SYAG bringing in ringers? Or will it be Commack? Or will the Nuts play with Sayville or Hills jerseys?

SYAG was absorbed into SSC. And some parents did their own thing and went to Nassau PAL, supposedly. So SYAG isn't even a town team. They are a pick up team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Mixed Nuts coaches are too busy complaining on this board about a holdback on Chan that they have no time to email their team about tournaments.

But seriously, was LI Lax Clash cancelled or was it just Shamrock? What's a good alternate tournament coming up for town teams?

Blatant Town Cup in mid April

Which town team will cheat the most in this one? SYAG bringing in ringers? Or will it be Commack? Or will the Nuts play with Sayville or Hills jerseys?

SYAG was absorbed into SSC. And some parents did their own thing and went to Nassau PAL, supposedly. So SYAG isn't even a town team. They are a pick up team.

SYAG never was a town team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know why the LI Lax Clash was cancelled?

The tournament in June?

Any club teams start spring practice yet? I know Chan has started (more like never stopped) but nothing for OReilly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any club teams start spring practice yet? I know Chan has started (more like never stopped) but nothing for OReilly.

If your club hasn't had anything yet, you really need to reconsider that club as the choice for your son!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any club teams start spring practice yet? I know Chan has started (more like never stopped) but nothing for OReilly.

Ask the directors for a schedule. Probably better served than a passive agressive posting it here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any club teams start spring practice yet? I know Chan has started (more like never stopped) but nothing for OReilly.

Ask the directors for a schedule. Probably better served than a passive agressive posting it here.

That was done. No schedule yet. Was curios to know what other clubs are doing. Are you suggesting I contact the other clubs? Didnt think so.

Just wondering if anyone is aware of camps in Suffolk County over Easter break for the boys in this age group.

Was at Warrior North tryouts this morning and only a handful of kids. Anyone know if a whole lot more showed up for South tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at Warrior North tryouts this morning and only a handful of kids. Anyone know if a whole lot more showed up for South tryouts?

It was around 20 for the South tryouts. They’re going to have to make one team and give up on the horrible money grab idea unless a whole lot of kids are “mailing in video” for consideration. It was so stupid to begin with.

20 for 2025 or 20!fornthe whole thing? At North there were 20 for the combined 3 grades!

When will people ever learn ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

20 for 2025 or 20!fornthe whole thing? At North there were 20 for the combined 3 grades!

Around 20 for 2025. Around 50-60 total would be my guess. I didn't count though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will people ever learn ....

Never

The question is, is Chan actually coaching the Warrior team like they're posting on Instagram?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The question is, is Chan actually coaching the Warrior team like they're posting on Instagram?

Of course he is....scouting out new meat. He only wants to see if there are kids he can poach for next season or later this season for the disgruntled parents with the kids who are the talented ones. I did not see a single Express kid there. My guess is they all sent video or are on Scholarship, or Chan is hiding them!

Anyone playing in lax jam?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in lax jam?

NO

Blast

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in lax jam?

NO

Blast will be playing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in lax jam?

NO

Blast will be playing

The term "Blast" is no longer authorized. You have been warned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in lax jam?

There should be a lot because the Shamrock was combined with it and it's the 1st spring event on Long Island. My guess is there will be a lot of trams out there next weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any club teams start spring practice yet? I know Chan has started (more like never stopped) but nothing for OReilly.

Ask the directors for a schedule. Probably better served than a passive agressive posting it here.

That was done. No schedule yet. Was curios to know what other clubs are doing. Are you suggesting I contact the other clubs? Didnt think so.

GENERAL PRACTICE SCHEDULE QUESTION – Do you have regularly scheduled practice days and times? How many per week? Any practices for only offense or defense? Thank you!

Originally Posted by LAX12345678

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any club teams start spring practice yet? I know Chan has started (more like never stopped) but nothing for OReilly.

Ask the directors for a schedule. Probably better served than a passive agressive posting it here.

That was done. No schedule yet. Was curios to know what other clubs are doing. Are you suggesting I contact the other clubs? Didnt think so.

GENERAL PRACTICE SCHEDULE QUESTION – Do you have regularly scheduled practice days and times? How many per week? Any practices for only offense or defense? Thank you!

Weekly practices have been going on for better part of two months now. Come May, that will bump up to 2+ times per week. If your club is still not going regularly, you need to be looking for a new club/team!

What about separate practice for offense only?

Its been my experince anything that is separate is usually some sort of training that is extra. Maybe a coach will keep the man up or man down for a few extra minutes, but separate practices has not been my experience with the clubs my kids play on.

Originally Posted by LAX12345678

What about separate practice for offense only?

In order to practice offense, you need to go against a defense (and similarly, you need to go against an offense to practice defense) - there is really no need to not cover ALL aspects of the game with ALL of the player positions present.

Thank you! Wasn't sure if it was an LAX thing.

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in lax jam?

There should be a lot because the Shamrock was combined with it and it's the 1st spring event on Long Island. My guess is there will be a lot of trams out there next weekend.

I know that the Christian Koehler Tournament has like 90+ teams but when did Shamrock merge with CK and do you know why?

Originally Posted by LiLaxDad

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in lax jam?

There should be a lot because the Shamrock was combined with it and it's the 1st spring event on Long Island. My guess is there will be a lot of trams out there next weekend.

I know that the Christian Koehler Tournament has like 90+ teams but when did Shamrock merge with CK and do you know why?

It was snowed out.

How is CSH Roar looking this year? Who's Laxin with Friends?? one of those pick up trams?

Shamrock did not combine with Christian Koehler. Maybe w lax jam

Originally Posted by Chalan

Shamrock did not combine with Christian Koehler. Maybe w lax jam

Interesting - I wonder how that game news surfaced. Thanks for clarifying

91 and Express highlight the A division this weekend at Spring Jam.

It would be tough for the Geese to join the fun considering 5 of their players tried out for 91 this weekend

Some have tried out for express too

At least they changed the schedule to have 91 and Express play each other as the 3rd game, anticipating they'll both be 2-0.

Express too good for 91 on this day. To be continued summer 2018.

Any summer leagues on LI ??

Tristar Lax Clash will be the tournament to watch this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tristar Lax Clash will be the tournament to watch this season.

Why is that?

91 and Geese will be there.
Not sure about Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 and Geese will be there.
Not sure about Express.

Gease already has losses in players and coaches. A loss to Blast, which is likely, will put the final nail in the coffin. The parents will run to the hills and make Express and 91 even bigger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 and Geese will be there.
Not sure about Express.

Gease already has losses in players and coaches. A loss to Blast, which is likely, will put the final nail in the coffin. The parents will run to the hills and make Express and 91 even bigger.

What coach did Geese lose.

Interestingly there is only one 91 team at this age. Express and Legacy have two.

the other 91 team for this age fell apart, then they tried merging 2025 with 2026's and that didn't work out at all, so everyone left to seek other clubs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 and Geese will be there.
Not sure about Express.

Isn't that an Express event? Of course they will be there...

How is the new daddy coach doing at Geese? How many left?

Who is the new daddy coach at Geese? What coach left?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the new daddy coach doing at Geese? How many left?

Wrecking the Geese like he tried to do with 91. 5 kids tried out for 91 and 91 took 3 of them. The other 2 had poison parents, word gets around, and were told they should try out again after the season. Translation - we’ll still take your money even if we won’t take your kid. Now pay up sucker!

I guess that's the real Dukes National. 11-4 over Express is a convincing win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the new daddy coach doing at Geese? How many left?

Wrecking the Geese like he tried to do with 91. 5 kids tried out for 91 and 91 took 3 of them. The other 2 had poison parents, word gets around, and were told they should try out again after the season. Translation - we’ll still take your money even if we won’t take your kid. Now pay up sucker!

You parents are true stunands. To believe the crap you read on here .

Express beat Dukes

Express is a 2024/2025 team, they should have an * after each win saying that they're a combo team(cheaters)

Express beat Dukes 10-2 in preliminary round and 11-6 in the Championship.

Actually its 100% true that 5 geese tried out for 91. And that 3 were taken on by 91. Why not the other 2, not sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express is a 2024/2025 team, they should have an * after each win saying that they're a combo team(cheaters)

Sorry your kid got cut

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express beat Dukes 10-2 in preliminary round and 11-6 in the Championship.

Dukes doesnt start playing kids down until 7 and 8 grade. They are usually not that good at this age bracket.

no doubt Express has 2024s..

What tourney ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express is a 2024/2025 team, they should have an * after each win saying that they're a combo team(cheaters)

Not this guy again.... please go back to registered posts only so we don't need to hear this guy complain for another year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the new daddy coach doing at Geese? How many left?

Wrecking the Geese like he tried to do with 91. 5 kids tried out for 91 and 91 took 3 of them. The other 2 had poison parents, word gets around, and were told they should try out again after the season. Translation - we’ll still take your money even if we won’t take your kid. Now pay up sucker!

You parents are true stunands. To believe the crap you read on here .

That coach is a problem. Was a problem at 91 and is now a problem there. But the parents are problems as well.. You have the little cliques that stand off in their little circles and complain amongst each other at tournaments and practices. All commiserating about their next move. None of them know anything of loyalty and start talking about jumping at the first sign of any issue. If you look at those parents on the sideline at a tournament they look miserable. They are the most unfriendly bunch you will ever meet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express is a 2024/2025 team, they should have an * after each win saying that they're a combo team(cheaters)

Stop already! the kid is small and the same age of most of the kids on the field. Stop being a hater. If the kid is the right age come WS time you will have to deal with it! if he is not of Age, just like all the teams you wont have to deal with those hold backs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually its 100% true that 5 geese tried out for 91. And that 3 were taken on by 91. Why not the other 2, not sure.

One of the dads spends every game screaming at his kid from the sidelines. You can see the boy is actually afraid. The other dad needs for his kid to be the best so badly, he incited a fist fight on the sideline when Legacy A decided not to play the Legacy B team in a championship game. He couldn't bear being co-champions with his own club's B team.

People are watching your antics and word gets around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tourney ?

NCAA Future Champions Tourney in Foxborough

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express is a 2024/2025 team, they should have an * after each win saying that they're a combo team(cheaters)

Stop already! the kid is small and the same age of most of the kids on the field. Stop being a hater. If the kid is the right age come WS time you will have to deal with it! if he is not of Age, just like all the teams you wont have to deal with those hold backs.

OK, so we all agree he is in 6th grade. Now it is OK because he is small? Maybe Cornell can ask for Rob Panell back.
What a joke.

Is he older? Yes or No?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express is a 2024/2025 team, they should have an * after each win saying that they're a combo team(cheaters)

Stop already! the kid is small and the same age of most of the kids on the field. Stop being a hater. If the kid is the right age come WS time you will have to deal with it! if he is not of Age, just like all the teams you wont have to deal with those hold backs.

love the 5th grade parents with first child. there is plenty more coming next year and following.

It's pretty sad Legacy has to put a try out discount on Groupon to attract players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's pretty sad Legacy has to put a try out discount on Groupon to attract players

Who cares about Groupon. It's really sad that clubs are putting out 2019 tryout dates already. Tournament season is just really getting started. Embarrassing!

It’s not only a tryout, it’s a camp as well 😂😂. I’m sure it will be money well spent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s not only a tryout, it’s a camp as well 😂😂. I’m sure it will be money well spent.

Both the 91 camp and the Legacy groupon is a marketing ploy. You should all realise by now that the club team is a business.

Legacy is clearly trying to maximize the number of people trying out. Figuring if more try out they end up making the same money anyway. And they have more talent to choose from for their team. It obviously works for them, because they do the groupon every year.

If you look at 91 past tryout schedules they spent 15 hours to cover tryouts for 8 grades. Plus an additional 3 hrs for the top 2 oldest grades.
So essentially they figured out if they did the grades as a camp for 3 days at 5 hours each day, they could just split up the coaches for the drills and charge more for each kid because now its a camp. And it may attract more people because it may cost $165 instead of $100 but their kid gets to be at a camp for 3 days. Actually its a pretty good deal if you ask me. The risk is they may lose peopke trying out who cant committ to a 3 day camp.But honestly if someone is serious, they will just contact 91 and Im sure they will arrange another way for a kid to tryout. The big question is since the camp is in early July, is 91 going to put out their roster and commitment date before Express and Legacys tryouts. Essentially trying to grab the talent early. That could backfire. Igloo tried that last year, and seemed to be scrounging for players this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s not only a tryout, it’s a camp as well 😂😂. I’m sure it will be money well spent.

Both the 91 camp and the Legacy groupon is a marketing ploy. You should all realise by now that the club team is a business.

Legacy is clearly trying to maximize the number of people trying out. Figuring if more try out they end up making the same money anyway. And they have more talent to choose from for their team. It obviously works for them, because they do the groupon every year.

If you look at 91 past tryout schedules they spent 15 hours to cover tryouts for 8 grades. Plus an additional 3 hrs for the top 2 oldest grades.
So essentially they figured out if they did the grades as a camp for 3 days at 5 hours each day, they could just split up the coaches for the drills and charge more for each kid because now its a camp. And it may attract more people because it may cost $165 instead of $100 but their kid gets to be at a camp for 3 days. Actually its a pretty good deal if you ask me. The risk is they may lose peopke trying out who cant committ to a 3 day camp.But honestly if someone is serious, they will just contact 91 and Im sure they will arrange another way for a kid to tryout. The big question is since the camp is in early July, is 91 going to put out their roster and commitment date before Express and Legacys tryouts. Essentially trying to grab the talent early. That could backfire. Igloo tried that last year, and seemed to be scrounging for players this year.

Okay, so camp value, I agree. But impoving tryout results, I don't. I have been involved with this for years as a parent (it used be Sept on a Sat/Sun). And best kids were always picked...somehow.... However, this a copycat business and now other clubs will follow and do the same thing. The best way to do this, since its going this way, is to hold a tryout camp and then on day 2 separate the kids into groups based on ability. And let kids in lower groups play their way back into the top group. Express and 91 used to do something similar, however, the lower groups were like cast offs and basically felt cut already. Also, how about the clubs providing a grading sheet for eachildren player? Let each kid know where he stands and let him know what he does well and what needs improvement. e.g. weak off hand skills, good lax IQ, strong footwork, etc. Develop the categories and give feedback. Do that, and I would send my son to the 91 camp (and we have no plans of playing for 91) just for the feedback evaluation and extra lax.

the camp in early july is not for tryouts. tryouts are july 23-25

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the camp in early july is not for tryouts. tryouts are july 23-25

Early July was a mistype. We are talking about tryout camp July 23-25.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the camp in early july is not for tryouts. tryouts are july 23-25

That's what we are talking about. The Tryout Camp during the 3rd week of July. 15 hours of evaluation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s not only a tryout, it’s a camp as well 😂😂. I’m sure it will be money well spent.

Both the 91 camp and the Legacy groupon is a marketing ploy. You should all realise by now that the club team is a business.

Legacy is clearly trying to maximize the number of people trying out. Figuring if more try out they end up making the same money anyway. And they have more talent to choose from for their team. It obviously works for them, because they do the groupon every year.

If you look at 91 past tryout schedules they spent 15 hours to cover tryouts for 8 grades. Plus an additional 3 hrs for the top 2 oldest grades.
So essentially they figured out if they did the grades as a camp for 3 days at 5 hours each day, they could just split up the coaches for the drills and charge more for each kid because now its a camp. And it may attract more people because it may cost $165 instead of $100 but their kid gets to be at a camp for 3 days. Actually its a pretty good deal if you ask me. The risk is they may lose peopke trying out who cant committ to a 3 day camp.But honestly if someone is serious, they will just contact 91 and Im sure they will arrange another way for a kid to tryout. The big question is since the camp is in early July, is 91 going to put out their roster and commitment date before Express and Legacys tryouts. Essentially trying to grab the talent early. That could backfire. Igloo tried that last year, and seemed to be scrounging for players this year.

Okay, so camp value, I agree. But impoving tryout results, I don't. I have been involved with this for years as a parent (it used be Sept on a Sat/Sun). And best kids were always picked...somehow.... However, this a copycat business and now other clubs will follow and do the same thing. The best way to do this, since its going this way, is to hold a tryout camp and then on day 2 separate the kids into groups based on ability. And let kids in lower groups play their way back into the top group. Express and 91 used to do something similar, however, the lower groups were like cast offs and basically felt cut already. Also, how about the clubs providing a grading sheet for eachildren player? Let each kid know where he stands and let him know what he does well and what needs improvement. e.g. weak off hand skills, good lax IQ, strong footwork, etc. Develop the categories and give feedback. Do that, and I would send my son to the 91 camp (and we have no plans of playing for 91) just for the feedback evaluation and extra lax.

I think you have to be careful since you are making this a camp about seperating the kids in the different grades based on ability. I think you shoulo dbt do that for drill evaluations, because its not necessary. And the weaker kids can learn a lot from the more experienced kids. But you can do that for scrimmages. After all, 91 (just like Express) wants to create AA, A, and B teams in each grade level ideally. So start thinking during the drills where the kids fit, so in scrimmages you can create those teams and see how they mesh.

I 100% agree with you about grading sheet evaluations. 91 cant "talk the talk" about bringing tryouts to a new level by creating a camp without "walking the walk" and actually evaluating each player who comes to their camp abd providing written feedback to parents at the end. All good camps do this. And honestly it would help for the 91 teams moving forward. Because those evaluations can be given to the team coaches moving forward into the season, so they can continue to assess the kids on the team and provide feedback and suggestions. This way you will have club teans doing essentially what there purpose is, to not just absorb talented kids but actually to develop all their players into top athletes. The winning of tournaments will happen naturally with that focus, 91 can then truly take credit for kids who receive college commitments in the future, and parents will be far more satisfied with their teams, plus coaches will have the backup for the playing decisions they make and should be able to control parents better.

In reality, all teams should consider doing the camp scenario. It probably will be far better. And if they do it right, people will gravitate towards these organizations.

Rebels is the next organization to do tryout camp. But cant make heads or tails of what it is???
Take a look:
https://rebelslc.leagueapps.com/events/663481-rebels-lacrosse-club-tryouts

Igloos tryout dates have been announced as well. Although strangely they are calling it a tryout camp when its really just the normal 2 days of 2 hour tryouts.
http://igloolacrosse.siplay.com/site/

LI Express has also announced tryout dates. But limited info. No idea what grades will be held on each if the dates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s not only a tryout, it’s a camp as well 😂😂. I’m sure it will be money well spent.

Both the 91 camp and the Legacy groupon is a marketing ploy. You should all realise by now that the club team is a business.

Legacy is clearly trying to maximize the number of people trying out. Figuring if more try out they end up making the same money anyway. And they have more talent to choose from for their team. It obviously works for them, because they do the groupon every year.

If you look at 91 past tryout schedules they spent 15 hours to cover tryouts for 8 grades. Plus an additional 3 hrs for the top 2 oldest grades.
So essentially they figured out if they did the grades as a camp for 3 days at 5 hours each day, they could just split up the coaches for the drills and charge more for each kid because now its a camp. And it may attract more people because it may cost $165 instead of $100 but their kid gets to be at a camp for 3 days. Actually its a pretty good deal if you ask me. The risk is they may lose peopke trying out who cant committ to a 3 day camp.But honestly if someone is serious, they will just contact 91 and Im sure they will arrange another way for a kid to tryout. The big question is since the camp is in early July, is 91 going to put out their roster and commitment date before Express and Legacys tryouts. Essentially trying to grab the talent early. That could backfire. Igloo tried that last year, and seemed to be scrounging for players this year.

I'd give them the $165 + $100 extra to not have to waste 3 days of my kid's life in a stupid camp over the summer when the season is over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s not only a tryout, it’s a camp as well 😂😂. I’m sure it will be money well spent.

Both the 91 camp and the Legacy groupon is a marketing ploy. You should all realise by now that the club team is a business.

Legacy is clearly trying to maximize the number of people trying out. Figuring if more try out they end up making the same money anyway. And they have more talent to choose from for their team. It obviously works for them, because they do the groupon every year.

If you look at 91 past tryout schedules they spent 15 hours to cover tryouts for 8 grades. Plus an additional 3 hrs for the top 2 oldest grades.
So essentially they figured out if they did the grades as a camp for 3 days at 5 hours each day, they could just split up the coaches for the drills and charge more for each kid because now its a camp. And it may attract more people because it may cost $165 instead of $100 but their kid gets to be at a camp for 3 days. Actually its a pretty good deal if you ask me. The risk is they may lose peopke trying out who cant committ to a 3 day camp.But honestly if someone is serious, they will just contact 91 and Im sure they will arrange another way for a kid to tryout. The big question is since the camp is in early July, is 91 going to put out their roster and commitment date before Express and Legacys tryouts. Essentially trying to grab the talent early. That could backfire. Igloo tried that last year, and seemed to be scrounging for players this year.

I'd give them the $165 + $100 extra to not have to waste 3 days of my kid's life in a stupid camp over the summer when the season is over.

You dont have to pay anything. Dont try out for 91. Simple.

For the rest of us getting a lacrosse camp which many of our kids attend somewhere anyway because our kids love to play lacrosse year round "even after the season is over" is a win win. We actually save time because we dont have to alot time for tryout dates.

But for you, better yet, stick to just PAL. This way you dont have to pay much at all and you dont as you put it "waste" your time having your kid play lacrosse more than a few months a year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s not only a tryout, it’s a camp as well 😂😂. I’m sure it will be money well spent.

Both the 91 camp and the Legacy groupon is a marketing ploy. You should all realise by now that the club team is a business.

Legacy is clearly trying to maximize the number of people trying out. Figuring if more try out they end up making the same money anyway. And they have more talent to choose from for their team. It obviously works for them, because they do the groupon every year.

If you look at 91 past tryout schedules they spent 15 hours to cover tryouts for 8 grades. Plus an additional 3 hrs for the top 2 oldest grades.
So essentially they figured out if they did the grades as a camp for 3 days at 5 hours each day, they could just split up the coaches for the drills and charge more for each kid because now its a camp. And it may attract more people because it may cost $165 instead of $100 but their kid gets to be at a camp for 3 days. Actually its a pretty good deal if you ask me. The risk is they may lose peopke trying out who cant committ to a 3 day camp.But honestly if someone is serious, they will just contact 91 and Im sure they will arrange another way for a kid to tryout. The big question is since the camp is in early July, is 91 going to put out their roster and commitment date before Express and Legacys tryouts. Essentially trying to grab the talent early. That could backfire. Igloo tried that last year, and seemed to be scrounging for players this year.

Okay, so camp value, I agree. But impoving tryout results, I don't. I have been involved with this for years as a parent (it used be Sept on a Sat/Sun). And best kids were always picked...somehow.... However, this a copycat business and now other clubs will follow and do the same thing. The best way to do this, since its going this way, is to hold a tryout camp and then on day 2 separate the kids into groups based on ability. And let kids in lower groups play their way back into the top group. Express and 91 used to do something similar, however, the lower groups were like cast offs and basically felt cut already. Also, how about the clubs providing a grading sheet for eachildren player? Let each kid know where he stands and let him know what he does well and what needs improvement. e.g. weak off hand skills, good lax IQ, strong footwork, etc. Develop the categories and give feedback. Do that, and I would send my son to the 91 camp (and we have no plans of playing for 91) just for the feedback evaluation and extra lax.

I think you have to be careful since you are making this a camp about seperating the kids in the different grades based on ability. I think you shoulo dbt do that for drill evaluations, because its not necessary. And the weaker kids can learn a lot from the more experienced kids. But you can do that for scrimmages. After all, 91 (just like Express) wants to create AA, A, and B teams in each grade level ideally. So start thinking during the drills where the kids fit, so in scrimmages you can create those teams and see how they mesh.

I 100% agree with you about grading sheet evaluations. 91 cant "talk the talk" about bringing tryouts to a new level by creating a camp without "walking the walk" and actually evaluating each player who comes to their camp abd providing written feedback to parents at the end. All good camps do this. And honestly it would help for the 91 teams moving forward. Because those evaluations can be given to the team coaches moving forward into the season, so they can continue to assess the kids on the team and provide feedback and suggestions. This way you will have club teans doing essentially what there purpose is, to not just absorb talented kids but actually to develop all their players into top athletes. The winning of tournaments will happen naturally with that focus, 91 can then truly take credit for kids who receive college commitments in the future, and parents will be far more satisfied with their teams, plus coaches will have the backup for the playing decisions they make and should be able to control parents better.

In reality, all teams should consider doing the camp scenario. It probably will be far better. And if they do it right, people will gravitate towards these organizations.

Thanks for the reply. Any format is fine is I guess as long as it's run well. But the individual evaluation emailed to each parent is needed and can clear up the rose colored glasses. Because parents will cheer when a kid sqeezes through a double and scores on a low percentage shot, when the all the evaler was looking for was the kid to pass to an open guy when he drew the double or winning a ground and immediately looking to move the ball and his feet. Goals are nice, but they are looking for everything else. I have heard it in the past. My kid scored 3 goals in the scrimmage at tryouts and they put him on the B team. Why?... because lax IQ at this point is average, stops his feet in traffic, no confidience in his off hand, and does not go after groundballa aggressively. If it's honest true it should be accepted and clubs should be willing to develop. Makes a better prodect, makes happier parents, and yeah kids improve and have fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s not only a tryout, it’s a camp as well 😂😂. I’m sure it will be money well spent.

Both the 91 camp and the Legacy groupon is a marketing ploy. You should all realise by now that the club team is a business.

Legacy is clearly trying to maximize the number of people trying out. Figuring if more try out they end up making the same money anyway. And they have more talent to choose from for their team. It obviously works for them, because they do the groupon every year.

If you look at 91 past tryout schedules they spent 15 hours to cover tryouts for 8 grades. Plus an additional 3 hrs for the top 2 oldest grades.
So essentially they figured out if they did the grades as a camp for 3 days at 5 hours each day, they could just split up the coaches for the drills and charge more for each kid because now its a camp. And it may attract more people because it may cost $165 instead of $100 but their kid gets to be at a camp for 3 days. Actually its a pretty good deal if you ask me. The risk is they may lose peopke trying out who cant committ to a 3 day camp.But honestly if someone is serious, they will just contact 91 and Im sure they will arrange another way for a kid to tryout. The big question is since the camp is in early July, is 91 going to put out their roster and commitment date before Express and Legacys tryouts. Essentially trying to grab the talent early. That could backfire. Igloo tried that last year, and seemed to be scrounging for players this year.

Okay, so camp value, I agree. But impoving tryout results, I don't. I have been involved with this for years as a parent (it used be Sept on a Sat/Sun). And best kids were always picked...somehow.... However, this a copycat business and now other clubs will follow and do the same thing. The best way to do this, since its going this way, is to hold a tryout camp and then on day 2 separate the kids into groups based on ability. And let kids in lower groups play their way back into the top group. Express and 91 used to do something similar, however, the lower groups were like cast offs and basically felt cut already. Also, how about the clubs providing a grading sheet for eachildren player? Let each kid know where he stands and let him know what he does well and what needs improvement. e.g. weak off hand skills, good lax IQ, strong footwork, etc. Develop the categories and give feedback. Do that, and I would send my son to the 91 camp (and we have no plans of playing for 91) just for the feedback evaluation and extra lax.

I think you have to be careful since you are making this a camp about seperating the kids in the different grades based on ability. I think you shoulo dbt do that for drill evaluations, because its not necessary. And the weaker kids can learn a lot from the more experienced kids. But you can do that for scrimmages. After all, 91 (just like Express) wants to create AA, A, and B teams in each grade level ideally. So start thinking during the drills where the kids fit, so in scrimmages you can create those teams and see how they mesh.

I 100% agree with you about grading sheet evaluations. 91 cant "talk the talk" about bringing tryouts to a new level by creating a camp without "walking the walk" and actually evaluating each player who comes to their camp abd providing written feedback to parents at the end. All good camps do this. And honestly it would help for the 91 teams moving forward. Because those evaluations can be given to the team coaches moving forward into the season, so they can continue to assess the kids on the team and provide feedback and suggestions. This way you will have club teans doing essentially what there purpose is, to not just absorb talented kids but actually to develop all their players into top athletes. The winning of tournaments will happen naturally with that focus, 91 can then truly take credit for kids who receive college commitments in the future, and parents will be far more satisfied with their teams, plus coaches will have the backup for the playing decisions they make and should be able to control parents better.

In reality, all teams should consider doing the camp scenario. It probably will be far better. And if they do it right, people will gravitate towards these organizations.

Thanks for the reply. Any format is fine is I guess as long as it's run well. But the individual evaluation emailed to each parent is needed and can clear up the rose colored glasses. Because parents will cheer when a kid sqeezes through a double and scores on a low percentage shot, when the all the evaler was looking for was the kid to pass to an open guy when he drew the double or winning a ground and immediately looking to move the ball and his feet. Goals are nice, but they are looking for everything else. I have heard it in the past. My kid scored 3 goals in the scrimmage at tryouts and they put him on the B team. Why?... because lax IQ at this point is average, stops his feet in traffic, no confidience in his off hand, and does not go after groundballa aggressively. If it's honest true it should be accepted and clubs should be willing to develop. Makes a better prodect, makes happier parents, and yeah kids improve and have fun.

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Yup. Appears to be new. There was a Rebels lacrosse years ago but not since 2013.

This seems to be created by Blatant Athletics. Promising a lot and charging a lot. For a new club who has to build a name, they are going to find it difficult when they are charging the same as the top clubs.
https://www.rebelslc.com/about-us

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Yup. Appears to be new. There was a Rebels lacrosse years ago but not since 2013.

This seems to be created by Blatant Athletics. Promising a lot and charging a lot. For a new club who has to build a name, they are going to find it difficult when they are charging the same as the top clubs.
https://www.rebelslc.com/about-us

Look at the staff.
All Legacy coaches.
Does not bode well for Legacy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Yup. Appears to be new. There was a Rebels lacrosse years ago but not since 2013.

This seems to be created by Blatant Athletics. Promising a lot and charging a lot. For a new club who has to build a name, they are going to find it difficult when they are charging the same as the top clubs.
https://www.rebelslc.com/about-us

Look at the staff.
All Legacy coaches.
Does not bode well for Legacy.

I believe it's Blatant. Which likely means it's a Brennan run club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Yup. Appears to be new. There was a Rebels lacrosse years ago but not since 2013.

This seems to be created by Blatant Athletics. Promising a lot and charging a lot. For a new club who has to build a name, they are going to find it difficult when they are charging the same as the top clubs.
https://www.rebelslc.com/about-us

Look at the staff.
All Legacy coaches.
Does not bode well for Legacy.

Legacy shot themselves in the foot with their new coaching decision.

What's their new coaching decision?

Whats going on with the fighting ducks?? Heard they are splitting up and a bunch of coaches and directors are starting a new team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats going on with the fighting ducks?? Heard they are splitting up and a bunch of coaches and directors are starting a new team.

Fighting Ducks are a 91/Dynamic Sports franchise. With that comes both the good and the bad. I wonder if this has something to do with it, to the extent this rumor is even true. In any event, I thought the Ducks were able to get good teams going in a relatively short time, and their top 2025 team was good.

This is just an educated guess, but it would seem to me that there would be more complications being a franchisee on the Island (i.e. in the same area as the parent club) than there would be in other places (for example, 91 Tristate in Westchester).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats going on with the fighting ducks?? Heard they are splitting up and a bunch of coaches and directors are starting a new team.

Whats the name of the new team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Yup. Appears to be new. There was a Rebels lacrosse years ago but not since 2013.

This seems to be created by Blatant Athletics. Promising a lot and charging a lot. For a new club who has to build a name, they are going to find it difficult when they are charging the same as the top clubs.
https://www.rebelslc.com/about-us

Look at the staff.
All Legacy coaches.
Does not bode well for Legacy.

Legacy shot themselves in the foot with their new coaching decision.

There is a lot more than that assistant daddy coach. The real issue was the Legacy organization for the whole year not hiring anyone to help the head coach.

Geese has a great head coach. But had no support. You cant tout yourself as one of the top teams, charge that price level, and not invest in your team.

The top teams like 91 and Express have head coaches, Defense coaches, and then assistant coaches (who are often dads of players).

The dad assistant coach stepped up where there was a need. And many of the parents had preformed an opinion regarding him due to their contacts with some 91 parents prior.
This doesnt mean that the 91 experience with this coach may not have been less than positive.
But it also doesnt mean the Legacy experience has to be negative. Especially when the guy is stepping in filling a real need thats not being supplied by the organization.

Regardless, Legacy can still come out of this. 91 is a perfect example from last year to this year regarding coaching.

Legacy can still rectify this if it invests in coaching staff, and it will be actually an opportunity possibly for talent to come in and have a chance at a spot on the team.

Time will only tell how its handled.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Yup. Appears to be new. There was a Rebels lacrosse years ago but not since 2013.

This seems to be created by Blatant Athletics. Promising a lot and charging a lot. For a new club who has to build a name, they are going to find it difficult when they are charging the same as the top clubs.
https://www.rebelslc.com/about-us

Look at the staff.
All Legacy coaches.
Does not bode well for Legacy.

I believe it's Blatant. Which likely means it's a Brennan run club.

Sorry, Mike Brennan they are talking about is the one from Outlaws, not Michael Brennan from Legacy.

Originally Posted by 631lax58

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Yup. Appears to be new. There was a Rebels lacrosse years ago but not since 2013.

This seems to be created by Blatant Athletics. Promising a lot and charging a lot. For a new club who has to build a name, they are going to find it difficult when they are charging the same as the top clubs.
https://www.rebelslc.com/about-us

Look at the staff.
All Legacy coaches.
Does not bode well for Legacy.

I believe it's Blatant. Which likely means it's a Brennan run club.

Sorry, Mike Brennan they are talking about is the one from Outlaws, not Michael Brennan from Legacy.

Fran Whitehouse is from Legacy

Originally Posted by 631lax58

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are the rebels lacrosse? is this a new organization?

Yup. Appears to be new. There was a Rebels lacrosse years ago but not since 2013.

This seems to be created by Blatant Athletics. Promising a lot and charging a lot. For a new club who has to build a name, they are going to find it difficult when they are charging the same as the top clubs.
https://www.rebelslc.com/about-us

Look at the staff.
All Legacy coaches.
Does not bode well for Legacy.

I believe it's Blatant. Which likely means it's a Brennan run club.

Sorry, Mike Brennan they are talking about is the one from Outlaws, not Michael Brennan from Legacy.

Michael Brennan from Outlaws is a board member and coach.
Outlaws seems to have had a difficult year not performing well and with trying to find players mid season.
I wonder if Outlaws is folding and trying to reinvent themselves under a new name?
Or is Brennan just splitting from them and creating new club, tying it to Blatant which he owns.
Either way he is promising way too much and charging way too much fir a first year team who us trying to recruit players.

Will the Golden Geese exist next year ?

I have to say I like that they are up front with the price. On 91 after all the training fall and winter I’m paying WAY more than what rebels charging.

Rebels Lacrosse Club is owned by Blatant Athletics, and is not affiliated with the Outlaws. This is a new club starting this fall. I agree that we are promising a lot, and we will deliver even more.

Please feel free to call the office 516-586-8162 or shoot us an email to info@rebelsLC.com ... we are all about communication and transparency.

-Mike Brennan

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the Golden Geese exist next year ?

Thats just a stupid comment.
Thats like asking last year if Blast would exist this year. And of course it does. And it made the necessary coaching changes. And its better than ever.
Legacy will smarten up and get past this also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have to say I like that they are up front with the price. On 91 after all the training fall and winter I’m paying WAY more than what rebels charging.

What was not included in the 91 price except box lacrosse and the helmet.
No program includes box lacrosse. And although the helmet is questionable, thats it. Winter training was included in the 91 price. Not sure what you think your getting from any other club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels Lacrosse Club is owned by Blatant Athletics, and is not affiliated with the Outlaws. This is a new club starting this fall. I agree that we are promising a lot, and we will deliver even more.

Please feel free to call the office 516-586-8162 or shoot us an email to info@rebelsLC.com ... we are all about communication and transparency.

-Mike Brennan

Kudos to you. Nice job and best of luck with the club. Been through the cycle with 3 kids and I can tell you in retrospect, I would value coaching commitment, right sized rosters, and communication the most important things. And winning, I'll be a realist.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have to say I like that they are up front with the price. On 91 after all the training fall and winter I’m paying WAY more than what rebels charging.

What was not included in the 91 price except box lacrosse and the helmet.
No program includes box lacrosse. And although the helmet is questionable, thats it. Winter training was included in the 91 price. Not sure what you think your getting from any other club.

I agree. The only thing extra I paid for was box and that had nothing to do with 91. It’s the opposite, because the 91 club wasn’t even involved in what the team did with box. No one was forced to do box and some families didn’t. No one had to buy a helmet, the new Geese kids don’t have them. Fact is, if you didn’t want to pay for the extras you’d only have paid your tuition at this point. Can’t be more upfront than that.

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

I thought it was a great tournament. Al the games were good. Makes all the kids better.

Laxachusetts and Chan in the final. Chan won 7-5. Good, mostly close games all around at the 2025. Should be some great lacrosse this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy.

You should take your son off whichever team he’s playing in, Express or 91. I’m assuming your son is in one of these teams since you have such vast knowledge of the teams. Anyways, you should find a new team you seem really angry and bitter. Good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy.

You should take your son off whichever team he’s playing in, Express or 91. I’m assuming your son is in one of these teams since you have such vast knowledge of the teams. Anyways, you should find a new team you seem really angry and bitter. Good luck

Maybe. Or maybe Im on one of the teams you played yesterday and gave you a run for your money. Or maybe im not on any of the teams.
But thanks for acknowledging that what I said was correct.
It foesnt take a brain scientist to figure it out. You really dont need girst hand knowledge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy.

You should take your son off whichever team he’s playing in, Express or 91. I’m assuming your son is in one of these teams since you have such vast knowledge of the teams. Anyways, you should find a new team you seem really angry and bitter. Good luck

By the way, the only person showing themselves to be bitter is parents on either of your teams who feel a constant need to talk crap about each other.
Dont deflect your own issues on the person who held up the mirror because your scared of your own reflection.
If you dont want people outside to have vast knowledge about your organisations than stop putting it all over the forums as you try to one up each other with the insults back and forth acting like teenagers.
Leave the forums for what they are created for, so people can exchange beneficial information about youth lacrosse. Not to have to wade through your drivel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy.

You have no clue about what you’re talking about. It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself you made the right choice in the club you brought your son to. So, he plays for a B club. It’s okay as long as he’s happy. Express and 91 aren’t getting passed by any time soon. They’ve got the money, the marketing and the contacts to stay at the top regardless of your opinion of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy.

You have no clue about what you’re talking about. It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself you made the right choice in the club you brought your son to. So, he plays for a B club. It’s okay as long as he’s happy. Express and 91 aren’t getting passed by any time soon. They’ve got the money, the marketing and the contacts to stay at the top regardless of your opinion of them.

Sigh. So sad. The inevitable response as the paranoia sets in because the truth hit a nerve.
Every other team is the B team, and they are all so unhappy and questioning their decisions.
Yet doesnt that mean that all you play against are B teams and in B tournaments.
That might be too much for your limited brain cells to handle.

Moving on. So Money buys you the top. Thank you for telling me. All this time Ive been teaching my kid that its hard work. And what we all should be teaching our kids is money will get you anywhere you want to be.

With that mentality your kid is sure to grow up to be a fine human being.
Cue the laughing.

Express and 91 love you. They just keep saying " show me the money" and you keep dishing it out.

Meanwhile the only ones deep inside questioning their decisions is yourself. Because your scared you wont be on top. Thats why you both keep taking the [ChillLaxin] out of each other, as you each try to claw past each other to the top. What a wonderful picture for the family photo album.

And of course your scared, because there is no loyalty here. There are so many parents who are willing to pay the bill who have kids with more ability. Its only a matter of time before your kid is replaced in the lineup.

But dont worry, you can stay around. Just keep paying the bill. The more the merrier.

What a wonderful experience. I really want that for my kid. Sigh.
Cue the laughing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy.

You have no clue about what you’re talking about. It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself you made the right choice in the club you brought your son to. So, he plays for a B club. It’s okay as long as he’s happy. Express and 91 aren’t getting passed by any time soon. They’ve got the money, the marketing and the contacts to stay at the top regardless of your opinion of them.

Sigh. So sad. The inevitable response as the paranoia sets in because the truth hit a nerve.
Every other team is the B team, and they are all so unhappy and questioning their decisions.
Yet doesnt that mean that all you play against are B teams and in B tournaments.
That might be too much for your limited brain cells to handle.

Moving on. So Money buys you the top. Thank you for telling me. All this time Ive been teaching my kid that its hard work. And what we all should be teaching our kids is money will get you anywhere you want to be.

With that mentality your kid is sure to grow up to be a fine human being.
Cue the laughing.

Express and 91 love you. They just keep saying " show me the money" and you keep dishing it out.

Meanwhile the only ones deep inside questioning their decisions is yourself. Because your scared you wont be on top. Thats why you both keep taking the [ChillLaxin] out of each other, as you each try to claw past each other to the top. What a wonderful picture for the family photo album.

And of course your scared, because there is no loyalty here. There are so many parents who are willing to pay the bill who have kids with more ability. Its only a matter of time before your kid is replaced in the lineup.

But dont worry, you can stay around. Just keep paying the bill. The more the merrier.

What a wonderful experience. I really want that for my kid. Sigh.
Cue the laughing.

Sorry you kid isn't on the top level, but if he is happy, good for him and you I suppose. Now it is your turn to move on. But if you are still all hung up about watching the best compete, they will all be playing in a couple of weeks at Mitchell field. You can bring your popcorn and notebook.

Thank you so much for your gracious invitation. But Im pretty busy going to my kids A tournaments. Dont have time to attend your B level games and take notes on how your team can improve. Sorry I cant be around to heip you more than I already have.
Cue the laughing.

I moved on hours and hours ago. I would suggest you take your own advice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen at NLF yesterday. Last two NLFs someone lost in the semis before they could get to Chan

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy.

You have no clue about what you’re talking about. It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself you made the right choice in the club you brought your son to. So, he plays for a B club. It’s okay as long as he’s happy. Express and 91 aren’t getting passed by any time soon. They’ve got the money, the marketing and the contacts to stay at the top regardless of your opinion of them.

Sigh. So sad. The inevitable response as the paranoia sets in because the truth hit a nerve.
Every other team is the B team, and they are all so unhappy and questioning their decisions.
Yet doesnt that mean that all you play against are B teams and in B tournaments.
That might be too much for your limited brain cells to handle.

Moving on. So Money buys you the top. Thank you for telling me. All this time Ive been teaching my kid that its hard work. And what we all should be teaching our kids is money will get you anywhere you want to be.

With that mentality your kid is sure to grow up to be a fine human being.
Cue the laughing.

Express and 91 love you. They just keep saying " show me the money" and you keep dishing it out.

Meanwhile the only ones deep inside questioning their decisions is yourself. Because your scared you wont be on top. Thats why you both keep taking the [ChillLaxin] out of each other, as you each try to claw past each other to the top. What a wonderful picture for the family photo album.

And of course your scared, because there is no loyalty here. There are so many parents who are willing to pay the bill who have kids with more ability. Its only a matter of time before your kid is replaced in the lineup.

But dont worry, you can stay around. Just keep paying the bill. The more the merrier.

What a wonderful experience. I really want that for my kid. Sigh.
Cue the laughing.

Winners worry about winning. Losers worry about winners. With all your vitriol, clearly, you are the latter.

They soften them up for you so Chan doesn't have to really shorten the bench. Say thanks, your son got to play.
[/quote]

You all need to wake up and look in the mirror. 91 and Chan are doing the exact same antics and you are all falling for it.
- both are overloaded
- both take kids from other teams mid season
- Coaches on both care about winning more than about developing their kids
- Both make promises to parents at the beginning of the season to get people to sign on, and then do whatever they want
- Both play shallow and not deep, so you fail to actually develop your team for the long run

What this weekend proved is neither of you are really superior. You both played flat in the first half of your games, and relied on keeping benches super tight to try to catch up. While the other teams rotated their entire team.

What does this mean? It means in the long run your both going to be passed by since your first line players are not that phenomenal since both teams were struggling.
The teams that play with depth and develop all their players will be the winners as the kids get older, and when it really counts.
Because it doesnt count now. Their in 5th grade. 5 years from being looked at by colleges. 7 years from college. Wake up. Your wasting their childhood and only lining the pockets of the owners of the organizations.

And this tournament showed there is plenty of competition outside of Long Island. Nepotism is your worst enemy. [/quote]

You have no clue about what you’re talking about. It sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself you made the right choice in the club you brought your son to. So, he plays for a B club. It’s okay as long as he’s happy. Express and 91 aren’t getting passed by any time soon. They’ve got the money, the marketing and the contacts to stay at the top regardless of your opinion of them. [/quote]

Sigh. So sad. The inevitable response as the paranoia sets in because the truth hit a nerve.
Every other team is the B team, and they are all so unhappy and questioning their decisions.
Yet doesnt that mean that all you play against are B teams and in B tournaments.
That might be too much for your limited brain cells to handle.

Moving on. So Money buys you the top. Thank you for telling me. All this time Ive been teaching my kid that its hard work. And what we all should be teaching our kids is money will get you anywhere you want to be.

With that mentality your kid is sure to grow up to be a fine human being.
Cue the laughing.

Express and 91 love you. They just keep saying " show me the money" and you keep dishing it out.

Meanwhile the only ones deep inside questioning their decisions is yourself. Because your scared you wont be on top. Thats why you both keep taking the [ChillLaxin] out of each other, as you each try to claw past each other to the top. What a wonderful picture for the family photo album.

And of course your scared, because there is no loyalty here. There are so many parents who are willing to pay the bill who have kids with more ability. Its only a matter of time before your kid is replaced in the lineup.

But dont worry, you can stay around. Just keep paying the bill. The more the merrier.

What a wonderful experience. I really want that for my kid. Sigh.
Cue the laughing.[/quote]

Winners worry about winning. Losers worry about winners. With all your vitriol, clearly, you are the latter. [/quote]

Winners worry about winning. Losers worry about winners. With all your vitriol, clearly, you are the latter. [/quote]

Ohhhh! Did I hurt your feelings! Im sorry. But im really just holding the mirror. Im not responsible for what you see.

So your a Michael Phelps fan. Unfortanatelly, you dont really grasp the meaning behind that quote. And you actually just called yourself a loser.

Hmmm. Too confusing for you. Well i will break it down for you.
Both of your teams concentrate on who is the current winner. Thats why you continually argue and insult each other back and forth because you cant stand when the other team is winning. And you do the same when any other team beats you.
You are the Losers who focus on winners.

Winners focus on winning. They dont focus on winners. They focus on the goals they set to achieve the final result over the long term. They see the positives in other teams who achieve success and seek to incorporate it into their own team. They acknowledge their weaknesses. Losing becomes an opportunity to recognise the weaknesses and improve on them. They focus on their development in order to be future winners.

Yawwwn! So now you should stop overfocusing on me and take your own advice and move on. As I said, I did that hours and hours ago.
Cheers.

This is such nonsense. Who cares about 5th grade results other than the clubs that know winning is good for the brand. It's a for profit business and people's personal choices are nobody's business. My opinion is playing time over being on top team, but other people like top team and limited time. So what. But its been my experience, make your choice of what makes your son happy.

Ohhhh! Did I hurt your feelings! Im sorry. But im really just holding the mirror. Im not responsible for what you see.

So your a Michael Phelps fan. Unfortanatelly, you dont really grasp the meaning behind that quote. And you actually just called yourself a loser.

Hmmm. Too confusing for you. Well i will break it down for you.
Both of your teams concentrate on who is the current winner. Thats why you continually argue and insult each other back and forth because you cant stand when the other team is winning. And you do the same when any other team beats you.
You are the Losers who focus on winners.

Winners focus on winning. They dont focus on winners. They focus on the goals they set to achieve the final result over the long term. They see the positives in other teams who achieve success and seek to incorporate it into their own team. They acknowledge their weaknesses. Losing becomes an opportunity to recognise the weaknesses and improve on them. They focus on their development in order to be future winners.

Yawwwn! So now you should stop overfocusing on me and take your own advice and move on. As I said, I did that hours and hours ago.
Cheers. [/quote]

For someone who moved on hours and hours ago, you still seem to be posting about it quite frequently!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ohhhh! Did I hurt your feelings! Im sorry. But im really just holding the mirror. Im not responsible for what you see.

So your a Michael Phelps fan. Unfortanatelly, you dont really grasp the meaning behind that quote. And you actually just called yourself a loser.

Hmmm. Too confusing for you. Well i will break it down for you.
Both of your teams concentrate on who is the current winner. Thats why you continually argue and insult each other back and forth because you cant stand when the other team is winning. And you do the same when any other team beats you.
You are the Losers who focus on winners.

Winners focus on winning. They dont focus on winners. They focus on the goals they set to achieve the final result over the long term. They see the positives in other teams who achieve success and seek to incorporate it into their own team. They acknowledge their weaknesses. Losing becomes an opportunity to recognise the weaknesses and improve on them. They focus on their development in order to be future winners.

Yawwwn! So now you should stop overfocusing on me and take your own advice and move on. As I said, I did that hours and hours ago.
Cheers.

For someone who moved on hours and hours ago, you still seem to be posting about it quite frequently!![/quote]

Only replying to your obsessing. Sigh. So sad.
Spock out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well.

where the real competition is!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well. [/quote
]where the real competition is!

No 9d1 parent will have the guts to complain either about the B tournament theyre in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well.

where the real competition is!

Hawks will knock the train off its tracks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well. [/quote
]where the real competition is!

No 9d1 parent will have the guts to complain either about the B tournament theyre in

Very Happy to be local for Fathers day. Enjoy the drive, I'll be home watching the Open and having a beverage.

Tristar is in two weeks, it's OK to let the MD guys come up to play and also line Chan's pockets after all you have spent traveling down that way this season.

Enjoy the Jersey Turnpike heading back home on Sunday - maybe you can all sew your AAA (or whatever level you call yourselves these days ) t-shirts together and balloon back over to LI. Sounds like a great Father's Day to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy the Jersey Turnpike heading back home on Sunday - maybe you can all sew your AAA (or whatever level you call yourselves these days ) t-shirts together and balloon back over to LI. Sounds like a great Father's Day to me.

If it was me and my kid was playing and enjoying himself... that's good enough for me. Sorry, just me, but I love watching my kids play sports. It goes quickly and doesn't matter the place, the time or the opponent. Love watch them play. To each his on, and oversized rosters stink, so please value the enjoyment of the youth sports. We lose that sometimes in the craziness of youth sports and how winning has trumped everything.

absolute [ChillLaxin]...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well. [/quote
]where the real competition is!

No 9d1 parent will have the guts to complain either about the B tournament theyre in

At least we’ll win!

9d1 proved it again today, beyond doubt they’re the Best of the B’s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well.

where the real competition is!

Hawks will knock the train off its tracks

Wow, you called it. 6-5 in the finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well.

where the real competition is!

Hawks will knock the train off its tracks

Wow, you called it. 6-5 in the finals.

If Express has to go to their second line, they lose. Chan will do anything to slow down the game to keep that from happening but some things, like weather, are out of even his control.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Chan money train never stops .... wait until you got to tourneys and you see kids on sideline that you have never seen before

The train heading to Maryland this weekend and looking to pickup from they left off last weekend. Geese heading down there as well.

where the real competition is!

Hawks will knock the train off its tracks

Wow, you called it. 6-5 in the finals.

If Express has to go to their second line, they lose. Chan will do anything to slow down the game to keep that from happening but some things, like weather, are out of even his control.

Lol. Well it's set up this week to play the Saturday games vs lighter competition to get playing time for all. Then it will go into iron man lax on Sunday.

I spent like 200 bucks in snow cones this weekend. mr Softee was the real winner.

How is the o reilly express team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the o reilly express team?

O'Reilly's team is O'K.

Will compete and play the right way, but a B team.

Chan has no Laxachussets, no Geese and no Blast during pool play at their Tournament this weekend. they have the Ducks.

After the Hawks beat down, he set his team right up for the finals! Playing these birds is Ducking. It is his tournament, so he can do what he wants, but if you are the best then play the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the o reilly express team?

Average B team. A handful of kids who know how to play and then a bunch who can't. Not like Chan, o reilly plays equal time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chan has no Laxachussets, no Geese and no Blast during pool play at their Tournament this weekend. they have the Ducks.

After the Hawks beat down, he set his team right up for the finals! Playing these birds is Ducking. It is his tournament, so he can do what he wants, but if you are the best then play the best.

Hey! Ducks are a real A team. We can beat Chan. You'll see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chan has no Laxachussets, no Geese and no Blast during pool play at their Tournament this weekend. they have the Ducks.

After the Hawks beat down, he set his team right up for the finals! Playing these birds is Ducking. It is his tournament, so he can do what he wants, but if you are the best then play the best.

Dont be an stunad.
There are 3 pools. Chan is in one. 91 in another. And Geese in another.
Why?
Because they are considered the top 3 LI teams to beat. So you deserve to be in championship if you rank better than the one you have in your pool.
Otherwise the championship will come down to those 3 and the next top seeded team from the pools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the o reilly express team?

Average B team. A handful of kids who know how to play and then a bunch who can't. Not like Chan, o reilly plays equal time.

Some upgrades from the AA team that don't play could make them the best 2nd team. But those parents are skilled at the art rationalization and could never have their child labeled a B team player. This is Long Island and being a B team player is like being a vegatarian in Kanas City..

OK thanks. Saw the Legacy B team in action this weekend. Had some nice players...got cooked in the semi final but was a long day. Wanted to see how they compared to O reillys team. Have heard good things about him as a coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK thanks. Saw the Legacy B team in action this weekend. Had some nice players...got cooked in the semi final but was a long day. Wanted to see how they compared to O reillys team. Have heard good things about him as a coach.

Not much can do. The roster is too bih

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK thanks. Saw the Legacy B team in action this weekend. Had some nice players...got cooked in the semi final but was a long day. Wanted to see how they compared to O reillys team. Have heard good things about him as a coach.

Legacy B team is 10 goals better based on the times they played. And GC Rams beat Legacy, so GC Rams should win this tourney easily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK thanks. Saw the Legacy B team in action this weekend. Had some nice players...got cooked in the semi final but was a long day. Wanted to see how they compared to O reillys team. Have heard good things about him as a coach.

A few of the parents from Legacy B were absolute trash. Beat a 4th/5th grade town team and thought they were the greatest.

Is the Legacy B team called the Blue Devils?

yes, they are the blue devils

Parents got real quiet during the GC Rams game.

Besides the Rebels what teams will see the influx of kids ? What good teams don't already have their teams picked?

Originally Posted by LongIislandLaxRVC

Besides the Rebels what teams will see the influx of kids ? What good teams don't already have their teams picked?

C'mon. It's not about picked. It's about out playing. All teams are picked going in and when there is a better player they make room. Some cut, some pad the roster. But you can do what is now common, if you really think your son is good, just reach out to the one of the top teams and get a practice invite now. Tryouts seem to be more and more for the 2nd teams. Call me a cynic, but it's my experience.

I agree with you, that's why I said teams "picked"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chan has no Laxachussets, no Geese and no Blast during pool play at their Tournament this weekend. they have the Ducks.

After the Hawks beat down, he set his team right up for the finals! Playing these birds is Ducking. It is his tournament, so he can do what he wants, but if you are the best then play the best.

Dont be an stunad.
There are 3 pools. Chan is in one. 91 in another. And Geese in another.
Why?
Because they are considered the top 3 LI teams to beat. So you deserve to be in championship if you rank better than the one you have in your pool.
Otherwise the championship will come down to those 3 and the next top seeded team from the pools.

Assuming Blast doesn't choke again on Laxachussets, theyre matched up with Express for the semi-finals. Blastards will be home before the ice starts to melt in their coolers.

Originally Posted by LongIislandLaxRVC

I agree with you, that's why I said teams "picked"

Just find the right spot. Meaning a coach that is not absent. Start with a 2nd team where the A team is very good. 91 didn't even field a B team this year because the experience was so bad I heard. 2025 O'Reilly or Blue Devils are good choices. Kids for the last two seasons have been selected to move up.

What happen to the Geese?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to the Geese?

They’re busy eating their own young.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chan has no Laxachussets, no Geese and no Blast during pool play at their Tournament this weekend. they have the Ducks.

After the Hawks beat down, he set his team right up for the finals! Playing these birds is Ducking. It is his tournament, so he can do what he wants, but if you are the best then play the best.

Dont be an stunad.
There are 3 pools. Chan is in one. 91 in another. And Geese in another.
Why?
Because they are considered the top 3 LI teams to beat. So you deserve to be in championship if you rank better than the one you have in your pool.
Otherwise the championship will come down to those 3 and the next top seeded team from the pools.

Assuming Blast doesn't choke again on Laxachussets, theyre matched up with Express for the semi-finals. Blastards will be home before the ice starts to melt in their coolers.

Not anymore. 91 cried because they know they cant win against Express and got the bracket changed.

And they know they list to Laxachussets in their last tournanemt in semifinals too, so they cried until they got matched against 91 Maryland.

Tournament organizers should be ashamed of changing the bracket like that. Laxachusetts has as much of a right to try and maje it to a final championship gane against express. They absolutely should be filing a complaint.

91 2025 Champs of the B level?? Whomp whomp!! Take that Express Chan!!

Congrats to the 91 team. Great win! From an Express parent. The bottom 15 on the Express team could have probably won the other bracket.

Express Chan and 91 are the 2 best teams. The brackets should not be set up so that they would meet in the semifinals. That would make the finals kind of anticlimactic wouldn’t you say? Maybe you should be running your own tournaments if you are so clever. 🙃

Don’t worry. 91 beat them all. Didn’t matter which way it was laid out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don’t worry. 91 beat them all. Didn’t matter which way it was laid out.

and then there is this guy....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the 91 team. Great win! From an Express parent. The bottom 15 on the Express team could have probably won the other bracket.

????

Did you just insult half your team PlayLax???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Chan and 91 are the 2 best teams. The brackets should not be set up so that they would meet in the semifinals. That would make the finals kind of anticlimactic wouldn’t you say? Maybe you should be running your own tournaments if you are so clever. 🙃

You seem to forget that Laxachusetts kicked 91 butt in the semifinals 2 weeks ago. And Express lost their championship last week to Hawks. Both of you should get off your high horse. There is lots of competitive teams out there. By next tournament the tide will have changed.

Heard they might be flying north

Laxachusetts beat 91 when their 1st string goalie was away with her family. They didn’t beat them this weekend. These are such hard working kids. They got a good result today because of that. No high horses involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusetts beat 91 when their 1st string goalie was away with her family. They didn’t beat them this weekend. These are such hard working kids. They got a good result today because of that. No high horses involved.

“1st String” Goalie Dad, it isn’t about your kid and the other goalie was just as good if not better. No need to throw any shade on another kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusetts beat 91 when their 1st string goalie was away with her family. They didn’t beat them this weekend. These are such hard working kids. They got a good result today because of that. No high horses involved.

“1st String” Goalie Dad, it isn’t about your kid and the other goalie was just as good if not better. No need to throw any shade on another kid.

If you knew the Dad you're talking about, you would know he'd never say anything about the other goalie. The goalies are friends and they look out for each other. Same with the dads.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the 91 team. Great win! From an Express parent. The bottom 15 on the Express team could have probably won the other bracket.

????

Did you just insult half your team PlayLax???

How? They can make two A teams probably and should is the point.

Another "A" team with boys that have not seen the field or game action in years ? That's funny. Keep drinking the cool-aide.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusetts beat 91 when their 1st string goalie was away with her family. They didn’t beat them this weekend. These are such hard working kids. They got a good result today because of that. No high horses involved.

“1st String” Goalie Dad, it isn’t about your kid and the other goalie was just as good if not better. No need to throw any shade on another kid.

If you knew the Dad you're talking about, you would know he'd never say anything about the other goalie. The goalies are friends and they look out for each other. Same with the dads.

I agree that it was not the starting goalies dad who made that statement. He would not throw shade anyones direction.
But someone from 91 made that comment. And it defenitely is saying that the second goalie is the reason 91 lost to Laxachusetts. Which is really crummy to say about someone on your team.
So whomever said it doesnt belong on the team, because thats a horrible thing to say. Especially since the second goalie is equalie as good, and has come really far this season.
Whomever said it is not taking ownership for the loss. It was not the goalie at all. If anything it was the second goalie who kept Laxachusetts from running up the score in that game. And if not for the goalie 91 would have lost games leading up to that game.
Whomever said that should be completely ashamed of themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusetts beat 91 when their 1st string goalie was away with her family. They didn’t beat them this weekend. These are such hard working kids. They got a good result today because of that. No high horses involved.

“1st String” Goalie Dad, it isn’t about your kid and the other goalie was just as good if not better. No need to throw any shade on another kid.

If you knew the Dad you're talking about, you would know he'd never say anything about the other goalie. The goalies are friends and they look out for each other. Same with the dads.

OK “1st String” Goalie Dad. Sure, the kids might get along, but you Daddy are a pox on the sidelines. We’ve all seen your type before. What excuses will you come up with as the prodigy you are raising starts falling short of your overwhelming expectations. It’s starting now, getting overpowered by more and more shots that are just too hard and fast.

Truth is both goalies have their strengths and weaknesses, just like any player at this age. These kids are 11 yo, they play because they love the game. The parents on this blog are the only ones with issues. 91 and express are both great teams, packed with kids that are talented. When they play each other it’s always a great game. They make each other better, and isn’t that what this is all about? Kids competing at a high level and challenging themselves and each other to be better.

The express "B" or whatever....needs some help.

Looks like Geese and Ducks flew off the same cliff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth is both goalies have their strengths and weaknesses, just like any player at this age. These kids are 11 yo, they play because they love the game. The parents on this blog are the only ones with issues. 91 and express are both great teams, packed with kids that are talented. When they play each other it’s always a great game. They make each other better, and isn’t that what this is all about? Kids competing at a high level and challenging themselves and each other to be better.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Geese and Ducks flew off the same cliff

The geese season was over when they got the WI daddy coach on board.

you’ll learn as the get older no one cares what you did in the 5th grade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusetts beat 91 when their 1st string goalie was away with her family. They didn’t beat them this weekend. These are such hard working kids. They got a good result today because of that. No high horses involved.

“1st String” Goalie Dad, it isn’t about your kid and the other goalie was just as good if not better. No need to throw any shade on another kid.

If you knew the Dad you're talking about, you would know he'd never say anything about the other goalie. The goalies are friends and they look out for each other. Same with the dads.

OK “1st String” Goalie Dad. Sure, the kids might get along, but you Daddy are a pox on the sidelines. We’ve all seen your type before. What excuses will you come up with as the prodigy you are raising starts falling short of your overwhelming expectations. It’s starting now, getting overpowered by more and more shots that are just too hard and fast.

Looks like someone someone forgot to take their meds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The express "B" or whatever....needs some help.

Big brother has the help on their bench

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Geese and Ducks flew off the same cliff

The geese season was over when they got the WI daddy coach on board.

How many Geese are going over to Rebels?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The express "B" or whatever....needs some help.

Big brother has the help on their bench

Their Coach was MIA the entire tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The express "B" or whatever....needs some help.

"some" help??? team is terrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The express "B" or whatever....needs some help.

"some" help??? team is terrible.

Looks like they have very little coaching or lacrosse IQ education. Passing was horrible and kids kept getting knocked down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Geese and Ducks flew off the same cliff

The geese season was over when they got the WI daddy coach on board.

How many Geese are going over to Rebels?

Ummm....Zero.

I watched 1 game on Sunday...they didn't get a shot off. For all that time and $ think they would hook these kids up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched 1 game on Sunday...they didn't get a shot off. For all that time and $ think they would hook these kids up.

I looked at tourney machine and they were obliterated each game. They played us, they obviously aren't getting the coaching - O'Reilly wasn't even on the sidelines, they have very small middies that get knocked around, the passing is horrendous, zero lacrosse IQ (not taught), The clearing was horrendous - middies just stood around and ended up having D taking the ball up. For the $3k - $3.5k they pay they getting zero value.

with the high end teams, do they coach to win? how many middies play and is it equally spread out in the close games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

with the high end teams, do they coach to win? how many middies play and is it equally spread out in the close games?

Yes, 3, No.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

with the high end teams, do they coach to win? how many middies play and is it equally spread out in the close games?

Yes, 3, No.

Absolutely Yes.

At most 6 or maybe 7 middies play if you include the LSM and the 1st line gets 70% of the run.

Bonus Answer:
4 attack will play and 4 D, any further down the bench than that then your coach is generous.

As a parent on the O’Rielly B team I have to agree we are not getting any of the coaching that is so desperately needed. O’Reillys greatest strengths as a coach was always developing a strong offense and that is all gone. He always played the kids fairly, but now there are twenty minute blocks that keep the same kids playing who aren’t able to accomplish any actual plays. O’Reillys team is thankful to have coach Matt whose focus is defense and with his guidance O’Reilly finally has a strong defense line. It’s really sad what has happened to the team. But there isn’t a lot of commitment with this years line of offense. Too many other sports and other events to take practice seriously enough to make a difference. And you have to keep the lines strong. If kids can’t catch and throw and now the basic fundamentals that should and usually are required to be on a B team then it’s just going to keep falling apart.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a parent on the O’Rielly B team I have to agree we are not getting any of the coaching that is so desperately needed. O’Reillys greatest strengths as a coach was always developing a strong offense and that is all gone. He always played the kids fairly, but now there are twenty minute blocks that keep the same kids playing who aren’t able to accomplish any actual plays. O’Reillys team is thankful to have coach Matt whose focus is defense and with his guidance O’Reilly finally has a strong defense line. It’s really sad what has happened to the team. But there isn’t a lot of commitment with this years line of offense. Too many other sports and other events to take practice seriously enough to make a difference. And you have to keep the lines strong. If kids can’t catch and throw and now the basic fundamentals that should and usually are required to be on a B team then it’s just going to keep falling apart.

What I watched the Middies had no interest in getting the attack involved. Whole quarters where the attack didn't get passed the ball. That's unacceptable on any winning team. If the commitment isn't there then the kids shouldn't see much field time. If they don't come to practice, then no playing time. Cannot develop as a team if kids miss practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a parent on the O’Rielly B team I have to agree we are not getting any of the coaching that is so desperately needed. O’Reillys greatest strengths as a coach was always developing a strong offense and that is all gone. He always played the kids fairly, but now there are twenty minute blocks that keep the same kids playing who aren’t able to accomplish any actual plays. O’Reillys team is thankful to have coach Matt whose focus is defense and with his guidance O’Reilly finally has a strong defense line. It’s really sad what has happened to the team. But there isn’t a lot of commitment with this years line of offense. Too many other sports and other events to take practice seriously enough to make a difference. And you have to keep the lines strong. If kids can’t catch and throw and now the basic fundamentals that should and usually are required to be on a B team then it’s just going to keep falling apart.

What I watched the Middies had no interest in getting the attack involved. Whole quarters where the attack didn't get passed the ball. That's unacceptable on any winning team. If the commitment isn't there then the kids shouldn't see much field time. If they don't come to practice, then no playing time. Cannot develop as a team if kids miss practice.

Need to cut all of the RVC "Superstars". But that would cost Chan money.

Team Meaethead

Does anyone know if Roar takes kids outside of CSH?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know if Roar takes kids outside of CSH?

No, they're for CSH kids only. Just like GC Rams is garden city only

Anyone know anything about a new team out east I heard was starting up? Where can I find info?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know anything about a team called outeast starting up? Where can I find info?

On the web, come on just Google it and don’t be so lazy!

Are the coaches that are breaking away from the ducks, still coaching at the ducks?
Ducks are not looking great this season. Is that the reason?[/quote]

The leader of the Ducks breaking away screwed the kids the summer he left 91 to run his own program. Now he is screwing these little ducklings who are getting killed at every event as he stops doing the right thing and leaves again. Fool me once, fool me twice, who wants to give this greedy man a third try.

tryouts are around the corner. What kind of player movement is to be expected? Are the Ducks staying together as that new program? Geese parents throwing in the towel? 91 and Express adding to an already oversized roster? Which teams are the losers and winners? Which program is the dark horse to end up with the disgruntled families and surprise next year? Predictions?

If the Geese parents are smart they would call a meeting with TZ, and get that team back together. If they had remained intact they would be really tough to beat. If Legacy could figure out the coaching and somehow work some sort of magic to get back the good kids that left it could be a nice group. That is of course if some of those parents can look past themselves and see the kids. Because they are the ones playing the game, not the parents.

Those parents that left are nuts ... Good Luck too whoever gets them... The legacy team now is a good spot with no drama ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those parents that left are nuts ... Good Luck too whoever gets them... The legacy team now is a good spot with no drama ....

No real tourney wins either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those parents that left are nuts ... Good Luck too whoever gets them... The legacy team now is a good spot with no drama ....

No real tourney wins either

5th grade tourney wins ? That's what its about ? Good for the Geese to rid themselves of the cancer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

tryouts are around the corner. What kind of player movement is to be expected? Are the Ducks staying together as that new program? Geese parents throwing in the towel? 91 and Express adding to an already oversized roster? Which teams are the losers and winners? Which program is the dark horse to end up with the disgruntled families and surprise next year? Predictions?

Predictions with no facts, just wate cooler conversation and 100% opinion. Ducks A will stay, why not. Solid team and can continue to add. Geese are likely fine, one little rift, which happens everywhere, turns into team falling apart???? Really, not.buying it. Best 2nd team of the group is Legacy team. The Geese will recover and reload. 91 recovered the A team this ywae and is a top team again. No 2nd team this year shows they had to build out A, but now can add a United or Warrior type 2nd team. Express built out A the last two years and is the best team on LI (it's true for now). BUT their real B team is on the bench of the A team . They'll try the unoriginal idea of splitting, and have it coached by a cast of 100s. But it will fail a's people are more skeptical and be one team of 33 by Dec. In the end, it's club lacrosse the top players will still be the focal point and everyone else will be disgruntled.

The team had something special, very sad where
it went! Many are moving on to new teams, drama
no matter where you go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those parents that left are nuts ... Good Luck too whoever gets them... The legacy team now is a good spot with no drama ....

As you say that the backdoor deals have already been made. More leaving...

I'm curious to see if 91 can form another 2025 team besides the blast

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm curious to see if 91 can form another 2025 team besides the blast

All second teams need is a dedicated coach. Like the warriors and aspen extreme have proved. Any type of hybrid that pretends to be something it isn't, FAILS. It has never worked. Teams need to be 100% independent of one another. Same amount practice and most important different coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm curious to see if 91 can form another 2025 team besides the blast

All second teams need is a dedicated coach. Like the warriors and aspen extreme have proved. Any type of hybrid that pretends to be something it isn't, FAILS. It has never worked. Teams need to be 100% independent of one another. Same amount practice and most important different coaches.

Very well said! other than Legacy Blue Devils haven't seen a B team that had any real form of support and dedication from the organization.

Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm curious to see if 91 can form another 2025 team besides the blast

All second teams need is a dedicated coach. Like the warriors and aspen extreme have proved. Any type of hybrid that pretends to be something it isn't, FAILS. It has never worked. Teams need to be 100% independent of one another. Same amount practice and most important different coaches.

Very well said! other than Legacy Blue Devils haven't seen a B team that had any real form of support and dedication from the organization.

Yeah, that's our parent perspective. But on the business side success for a B team sometimes isn't measured by wins and losses in my opinion. They are used to reciprocate in tourneys and add revenue based on the clubs success on A level. Nothing wrong with that, but put some thought into it and dont give it to a coach that has 3 teams already...makes no sense. Tryouts are for the 2nd teams after all. These elite teams are only adding kids they already know or somebody sent down. It's a small lax world.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a parent on the O’Rielly B team I have to agree we are not getting any of the coaching that is so desperately needed. O’Reillys greatest strengths as a coach was always developing a strong offense and that is all gone. He always played the kids fairly, but now there are twenty minute blocks that keep the same kids playing who aren’t able to accomplish any actual plays. O’Reillys team is thankful to have coach Matt whose focus is defense and with his guidance O’Reilly finally has a strong defense line. It’s really sad what has happened to the team. But there isn’t a lot of commitment with this years line of offense. Too many other sports and other events to take practice seriously enough to make a difference. And you have to keep the lines strong. If kids can’t catch and throw and now the basic fundamentals that should and usually are required to be on a B team then it’s just going to keep falling apart.

What I watched the Middies had no interest in getting the attack involved. Whole quarters where the attack didn't get passed the ball. That's unacceptable on any winning team. If the commitment isn't there then the kids shouldn't see much field time. If they don't come to practice, then no playing time. Cannot develop as a team if kids miss practice.

Need to cut all of the RVC "Superstars". But that would cost Chan money.

Nice thing about the LI club scene. You have a lot options starting in a month.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..

I've spoken with a few other Geese parents, they are all going over to Rebels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

tryouts are around the corner. What kind of player movement is to be expected? Are the Ducks staying together as that new program? Geese parents throwing in the towel? 91 and Express adding to an already oversized roster? Which teams are the losers and winners? Which program is the dark horse to end up with the disgruntled families and surprise next year? Predictions?

I would add true blue to teams that are expecting big tryouts...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

tryouts are around the corner. What kind of player movement is to be expected? Are the Ducks staying together as that new program? Geese parents throwing in the towel? 91 and Express adding to an already oversized roster? Which teams are the losers and winners? Which program is the dark horse to end up with the disgruntled families and surprise next year? Predictions?

I would add true blue to teams that are expecting big tryouts...

What about Dukes LI? Heard they may be expanding here also..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..

The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..

The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball

Dad Islip Coach is better in every way than Reilly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..

The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball

Dad Islip Coach is better in every way than Reilly.

Wait! Are you saying the geese parents are following the WI daddy assistant coach rather than their head coach CF that has coached them all these years. Then they are nuts!
I agree, Legacy needs to invest in the team and provide more qualified paid coaches. It cant just be CF coaching without another paid coach. But one rough year doesnt mean a team cant come back.
And they think it will be better to pay $2800 to a startup team?
They are making a huge mistake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..

The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball

Dad Islip Coach is better in every way than Reilly.

not even close . You parents are so dumb!, go to the outlaws , I mean rebels . Still do not understand lacrosse at all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..

The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball

Dad Islip Coach is better in every way than Reilly.

Did Islip dad play at Maryland too?

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched 1 game on Sunday...they didn't get a shot off. For all that time and $ think they would hook these kids up.

I looked at tourney machine and they were obliterated each game. They played us, they obviously aren't getting the coaching - O'Reilly wasn't even on the sidelines, they have very small middies that get knocked around, the passing is horrendous, zero lacrosse IQ (not taught), The clearing was horrendous - middies just stood around and ended up having D taking the ball up. For the $3k - $3.5k they pay they getting zero value.

I tend to think not a lot will return.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.

Thank you Director!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.

I am glad you and many other parents on the team are sticking it out. There is too many people moving their kids from team to team. Ultimately if you find a good team, with good training, that your child actually gets decent time on the field then that team will eventually be a good team and get through the rough times.

I do believe the geese can be that. Chris Fiore is a talented and dedicated coach. But parents do need to insist that Legacy invest in a second paid coach who is not a daddy coach. If you want to compete against the bigger teams you have to have that. And Legacy defenitely is now at the price level like other big teams that they should be having it.

Then if you want to have one or two daddy coaches to "assist" thats great. But they take direction from the 2 paid head coaches and are not over vocal. Let the head coaches do most of the instructional direction.

Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that. And probably could be a bit less vocal, and leave that to the head coach.
Other big teams also have real problems with daddy coaches and much worse ones.

Either way, 2 paid qualified nondaddy coaches are necessary for Legacy, or the Geese will find it difficult to replace players who leave with quality talented players. And thats just the facts.

So if u stay then you need to get together and have a real talk with the organization before tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.

So many bad losses, so many.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.

I am glad you and many other parents on the team are sticking it out. There is too many people moving their kids from team to team. Ultimately if you find a good team, with good training, that your child actually gets decent time on the field then that team will eventually be a good team and get through the rough times.

I do believe the geese can be that. Chris Fiore is a talented and dedicated coach. But parents do need to insist that Legacy invest in a second paid coach who is not a daddy coach. If you want to compete against the bigger teams you have to have that. And Legacy defenitely is now at the price level like other big teams that they should be having it.

Then if you want to have one or two daddy coaches to "assist" thats great. But they take direction from the 2 paid head coaches and are not over vocal. Let the head coaches do most of the instructional direction.

Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that. And probably could be a bit less vocal, and leave that to the head coach.
Other big teams also have real problems with daddy coaches and much worse ones.

Either way, 2 paid qualified nondaddy coaches are necessary for Legacy, or the Geese will find it difficult to replace players who leave with quality talented players. And thats just the facts.

So if u stay then you need to get together and have a real talk with the organization before tryouts.

You just explained why most of the top players are leaving & left already. All of what you say should be in place before tryouts. When coaches are added after the last tuition payments are made people start to pack their bags. "But he doesn't seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesn't make sense at times." says it all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough

So many bad, bad losses, and now they’ve lost games they should have won. Unfortunately losing is contagious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough

So many bad, bad losses, and now they’ve lost games they should have won. Unfortunately losing is contagious.

Thats a ridiculous statement. If that was true then Express abd 91 would be losing now. Both have went through very bad streaks. You know nothing about lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough

So many bad, bad losses, and now they’ve lost games they should have won. Unfortunately losing is contagious.

Thats a ridiculous statement. If that was true then Express abd 91 would be losing now. Both have went through very bad streaks. You know nothing about lacrosse.

“Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that.”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough

So many bad, bad losses, and now they’ve lost games they should have won. Unfortunately losing is contagious.

Thats a ridiculous statement. If that was true then Express abd 91 would be losing now. Both have went through very bad streaks. You know nothing about lacrosse.

I know about WINNING. Have to have commitment and a willingness to change the talent and culture! That is what it takes.

Wait , isn’t that what they did and the reason they are in this mess?

Do you know how hard it is cut a kid and family after a 10 month season. But if you want to improve and cut kids for talent and culture reasons, you have to.

what LI teams are heading to the valley forge NXT tourney this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough

So many bad, bad losses, and now they’ve lost games they should have won. Unfortunately losing is contagious.

Thats a ridiculous statement. If that was true then Express abd 91 would be losing now. Both have went through very bad streaks. You know nothing about lacrosse.

“Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that.”

You all realize that there are many great club coaches out there that are are fathers of kids on a team and are really good coaches. The whole "daddy coach" thing is getting old now. Maybe, just maybe the problem is with all of you baby parents. Look, lets point some out, the little lefty attackmans daddy tried to leave in the middle of the season but his reputation proceeded him and they wouldn't take him. Then I guess he and his son don't understand that losing is part of the game and took there ball and left. That guy is going to ruin the game of lacrosse for his sons, he may have already done that with his older one. Same thing with the goalies mommy and daddy, always looking angry at the world and the loss is never there sons fault. And then you have the other 3 that left, what's going to happen come tryout time and 91 doesn't take you back or better yet bumps you to the new second team!! Oh no not the dreaded second team! My little champ can't do that he's too good!! Oh maybe you can go to express and be the 31st kid on the bench. You had a great team at the Geese and if they stayed together you would have had a great summer. Remember it's the parents that are making these choices, not the kids. The kids would have probably been more than fine if you left them where they were. The lacrosse world is a small one and news of nasty, baby, complaining parents travels fast. Some times it doesn't matter how good little junior is, if the parent is a trouble maker organizations will be hesitant to take them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough

So many bad, bad losses, and now they’ve lost games they should have won. Unfortunately losing is contagious.

Thats a ridiculous statement. If that was true then Express abd 91 would be losing now. Both have went through very bad streaks. You know nothing about lacrosse.

I know about WINNING. Have to have commitment and a willingness to change the talent and culture! That is what it takes.

uote]

You dont know about winning. Winning at all costs is a hollow win.
Youth lacrosse should not be about winning at all costs.
It should not be about winning where half a team sits on the sidelines.
Its not about teaching kids that its okay not to play just as long as their on a winning team.
Its not about being on a winning team where everyone doesnt get a fair shot.
Youth lacrosse should not be about who you know.
Youth lacrosse and any sport is about developing players in the sports, teaching team spirit, teaching ethics, having coaches that are good trainors and good role models.
Sports is about developing kids into the exception that is an exceptional individual. Not someone who cares only about themselves or tags along following the status quo wrong or right.
Professional sports and coaches constantly speak about this. And how they sit players who dont understand what it means to be a team.
I have spoken to D1 and D2 coaches who completely pass on players who they and/or their parents see everything through a limited self focused lens.
And if you think they dont question these top teams methods you are dead wrong. The big question is not what team your on, but does your kid get the opportunity to play.
Unfortanatelly the top couple travel teams coaches are good trainors but are not good role models. Not when they stuff their rosters to make money, add mid season showing no loyalty to kids on their team, invite kids to tournaments during the season to recruit affecting existing kids play time, dont allow all their kids equal opportunities. They are sending kids the wrong message about sports. They are not producing the exception that become exceptional kids colleges and professional sports want.
So keep on thinking you know about winning, but your fooling yourself.

If Legacy was honest from the beginning, the Geese would have a lot of changes from the start. All the kids left for certain reasons, it could of been for coaching, family etc. To make comments about why they left is wrong. The three kids that left for 91 were out the door before the season even started. Nobody was to blame for this team except Legacy. And to this parent who is commenting above you should be glad they left because your son now has some playing time because this fall you were sitting on the sidelines with a face on, thinking your son should be starting! Enjoy your last tournament playing B teams maybe you will get the win that you want mamma!!

Yea heard someones son was getting yelled at the 91 practice the other day... I know sometimes it’s hard to face reality. People can chirp all the want all I know is that one of the kids who left doesn’t even touch the field. You should have been thankful you touched the field at legacy and are able to play. At the end of the day... duke and Hopkins aren’t on the sidelines watching anyone’s kid at this age group. It’s about the development of the players and having fun. This website is a bunch of bull and people should keep their comments to themselves. You should worry about your own kids and stop being so judgmental towards others. Everyone has their own path towards their goals in life. You never know... your kid could love lacrosse now and not even play ever again as they grow. And we will all be sitting here laughing at how stupid this stuff is. Oh and other thing... the season started and your son and the golden children they are weren’t getting it done like the vision they had and they left so that you can blame the rest of these poor kids. Whatever have fun thanks for stirring the pot over here at legacy.. these boys stuck together and got it done no matter who was there and who left. And for the record... this team was never broken you guys were just poison to this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea heard someones son was getting yelled at the 91 practice the other day... I know sometimes it’s hard to face reality. People can chirp all the want all I know is that one of the kids who left doesn’t even touch the field. You should have been thankful you touched the field at legacy and are able to play. At the end of the day... duke and Hopkins aren’t on the sidelines watching anyone’s kid at this age group. It’s about the development of the players and having fun. This website is a bunch of bull and people should keep their comments to themselves. You should worry about your own kids and stop being so judgmental towards others. Everyone has their own path towards their goals in life. You never know... your kid could love lacrosse now and not even play ever again as they grow. And we will all be sitting here laughing at how stupid this stuff is. Oh and other thing... the season started and your son and the golden children they are weren’t getting it done like the vision they had and they left so that you can blame the rest of these poor kids. Whatever have fun thanks for stirring the pot over here at legacy.. these boys stuck together and got it done no matter who was there and who left. And for the record... this team was never broken you guys were just poison to this team.

"But he doesn't seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesn't make sense at times." says it all!

Does anyone know in whose backyard Mixed Nuts is holding tryouts? Are High Pitch Eric and the Bald Guy still coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Legacy was honest from the beginning, the Geese would have a lot of changes from the start. All the kids left for certain reasons, it could of been for coaching, family etc. To make comments about why they left is wrong. The three kids that left for 91 were out the door before the season even started. Nobody was to blame for this team except Legacy. And to this parent who is commenting above you should be glad they left because your son now has some playing time because this fall you were sitting on the sidelines with a face on, thinking your son should be starting! Enjoy your last tournament playing B teams maybe you will get the win that you want mamma!!

91 or Express should not be preaching about honesty. They are the poster child of dishonesty.

Dont pretend they left for different reasons. Everyone knows why they left.
And team players is not part of their parents vocabulary. But you will find that out.

And I was never on the sidelines at Legacy at any point this season.

So keep on deflecting. Clearly I hit a chord with you. You see it, just dont want to acknowledge it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea heard someones son was getting yelled at the 91 practice the other day... I know sometimes it’s hard to face reality. People can chirp all the want all I know is that one of the kids who left doesn’t even touch the field. You should have been thankful you touched the field at legacy and are able to play. At the end of the day... duke and Hopkins aren’t on the sidelines watching anyone’s kid at this age group. It’s about the development of the players and having fun. This website is a bunch of bull and people should keep their comments to themselves. You should worry about your own kids and stop being so judgmental towards others. Everyone has their own path towards their goals in life. You never know... your kid could love lacrosse now and not even play ever again as they grow. And we will all be sitting here laughing at how stupid this stuff is. Oh and other thing... the season started and your son and the golden children they are weren’t getting it done like the vision they had and they left so that you can blame the rest of these poor kids. Whatever have fun thanks for stirring the pot over here at legacy.. these boys stuck together and got it done no matter who was there and who left. And for the record... this team was never broken you guys were just poison to this team.

"But he doesn't seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesn't make sense at times." says it all!

And that quote is accurate...
Except...
You skipped the part where I said he seemed like a nice guy, and was encouraging to kids, and wasnt necessarily a bad assistant coach.

Your being selective in what you quote.

The fact is if a dad is doing it for the right reason, he can improve.

There are good dad coaches and not good ones.

Sone of the top teams have both as well, yet dont admit it. And dont address it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.

I am glad you and many other parents on the team are sticking it out. There is too many people moving their kids from team to team. Ultimately if you find a good team, with good training, that your child actually gets decent time on the field then that team will eventually be a good team and get through the rough times.

I do believe the geese can be that. Chris Fiore is a talented and dedicated coach. But parents do need to insist that Legacy invest in a second paid coach who is not a daddy coach. If you want to compete against the bigger teams you have to have that. And Legacy defenitely is now at the price level like other big teams that they should be having it.

Then if you want to have one or two daddy coaches to "assist" thats great. But they take direction from the 2 paid head coaches and are not over vocal. Let the head coaches do most of the instructional direction.

Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that. And probably could be a bit less vocal, and leave that to the head coach.
Other big teams also have real problems with daddy coaches and much worse ones.

Either way, 2 paid qualified nondaddy coaches are necessary for Legacy, or the Geese will find it difficult to replace players who leave with quality talented players. And thats just the facts.

So if u stay then you need to get together and have a real talk with the organization before tryouts.

Daddy coaches comin to Geese..real soon...with two more mighty mights for the roster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea heard someones son was getting yelled at the 91 practice the other day... I know sometimes it’s hard to face reality. People can chirp all the want all I know is that one of the kids who left doesn’t even touch the field. You should have been thankful you touched the field at legacy and are able to play. At the end of the day... duke and Hopkins aren’t on the sidelines watching anyone’s kid at this age group. It’s about the development of the players and having fun. This website is a bunch of bull and people should keep their comments to themselves. You should worry about your own kids and stop being so judgmental towards others. Everyone has their own path towards their goals in life. You never know... your kid could love lacrosse now and not even play ever again as they grow. And we will all be sitting here laughing at how stupid this stuff is. Oh and other thing... the season started and your son and the golden children they are weren’t getting it done like the vision they had and they left so that you can blame the rest of these poor kids. Whatever have fun thanks for stirring the pot over here at legacy.. these boys stuck together and got it done no matter who was there and who left. And for the record... this team was never broken you guys were just poison to this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea heard someones son was getting yelled at the 91 practice the other day... I know sometimes it’s hard to face reality. People can chirp all the want all I know is that one of the kids who left doesn’t even touch the field. You should have been thankful you touched the field at legacy and are able to play. At the end of the day... duke and Hopkins aren’t on the sidelines watching anyone’s kid at this age group. It’s about the development of the players and having fun. This website is a bunch of bull and people should keep their comments to themselves. You should worry about your own kids and stop being so judgmental towards others. Everyone has their own path towards their goals in life. You never know... your kid could love lacrosse now and not even play ever again as they grow. And we will all be sitting here laughing at how stupid this stuff is. Oh and other thing... the season started and your son and the golden children they are weren’t getting it done like the vision they had and they left so that you can blame the rest of these poor kids. Whatever have fun thanks for stirring the pot over here at legacy.. these boys stuck together and got it done no matter who was there and who left. And for the record... this team was never broken you guys were just poison to this team.

Put the wine down and go to bed . Wow! This is what’s wrong with youth sports. Unhealthy over analyzed addiction to your sons 11 year old team.
What an embarrassment. Whomever wrote this needs to apologize to her family, friends and parents of Legacy players.
Leave the team and start over for your family and the benefit of the community.

Maybe you should ask him did you ever think you have no idea what you are talking about . Sit back and think about that . I highly doubt he has no understanding of the lacrosse language . Keep looking through those rose colored glasses .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.

I am glad you and many other parents on the team are sticking it out. There is too many people moving their kids from team to team. Ultimately if you find a good team, with good training, that your child actually gets decent time on the field then that team will eventually be a good team and get through the rough times.

I do believe the geese can be that. Chris Fiore is a talented and dedicated coach. But parents do need to insist that Legacy invest in a second paid coach who is not a daddy coach. If you want to compete against the bigger teams you have to have that. And Legacy defenitely is now at the price level like other big teams that they should be having it.

Then if you want to have one or two daddy coaches to "assist" thats great. But they take direction from the 2 paid head coaches and are not over vocal. Let the head coaches do most of the instructional direction.

Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that. And probably could be a bit less vocal, and leave that to the head coach.
Other big teams also have real problems with daddy coaches and much worse ones.

Either way, 2 paid qualified nondaddy coaches are necessary for Legacy, or the Geese will find it difficult to replace players who leave with quality talented players. And thats just the facts.

So if u stay then you need to get together and have a real talk with the organization before tryouts.

Daddy coaches comin to Geese..real soon...with two more mighty mights for the roster

Who cares if they are dads? If they are good coaches why does it matter? There are lots of great coaches that are dads all over travel lacrosse. Most of the time they are super invested in the team.

Let's all move on. All three of these teams (Legacy, Express, 91) all have talent and all have some issues. Every team you go to no matter how good is going to have someone who is always unhappy. it is just the nature of the beast. I wish all the boys the best of luck with tryouts and I hope they all land is the best spot for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe you should ask him did you ever think you have no idea what you are talking about . Sit back and think about that . I highly doubt he has no understanding of the lacrosse language . Keep looking through those rose colored glasses .

All learned at Adelphi.

Probably only going to be 3 powerhouses - 91, Express and Igloo. Unless Rebels can do what they say they are doing. Heard legacy kids flocking to the Rebels, so they would be depleted, and Ducks are losing top players to 91 or Express, and that team was already only marginal. But who really knows, half the rumors never pan out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably only going to be 3 powerhouses - 91, Express and Igloo. Unless Rebels can do what they say they are doing. Heard legacy kids flocking to the Rebels, so they would be depleted, and Ducks are losing top players to 91 or Express, and that team was already only marginal. But who really knows, half the rumors never pan out.

Don't be surprised of these teams start to have AA, A and B teams per grade as they try to keep the influx of kids from these programs that are less than spectacular or doing down the drain like Legacy

I don't know anyting about mixed nuts but that is awesome. WHooooose high pitch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know anyting about mixed nuts but that is awesome. WHooooose high pitch

Your son didn't cut it, you didn't get asked and so you wouldn't know.

For the uninitiated, the 'Nuts were undefeated and their unblemished record stands for all to see. In time they will be a part of Lax mythology

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know anyting about mixed nuts but that is awesome. WHooooose high pitch

Your son didn't cut it, you didn't get asked and so you wouldn't know.

For the uninitiated, the 'Nuts were undefeated and their unblemished record stands for all to see. In time they will be a part of Lax mythology

And that gets them what at 10/11 ????? College scholarship? Job on Wall Street? Victoria's secret supermodel girlfriend? NADA.... ya'll fighting over NADA.... so pathetic...

Sure. A bunch of A kids playing in B tournaments. Quite mythical. What a loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably only going to be 3 powerhouses - 91, Express and Igloo. Unless Rebels can do what they say they are doing. Heard legacy kids flocking to the Rebels, so they would be depleted, and Ducks are losing top players to 91 or Express, and that team was already only marginal. But who really knows, half the rumors never pan out.

Don't be surprised of these teams start to have AA, A and B teams per grade as they try to keep the influx of kids from these programs that are less than spectacular or doing down the drain like Legacy

Express already taking that route. Just splitting the AA team and the tryout pool should do it.

I have to say, not being a 91 parent, the 3 day evaluation camp is an interesting move. The worst case is kids get 3 days of lax camp. I actually think people will send their kids just for the camp. One thing I would like to see is clubs consider is completing their invites for each top team and sending out a 2nd set of call backs for the other teams. The rationale is that some kids just go to tryouts to make the top team and reject the 2nd team invite.

Who is the best team this summer?

Here are the best tournament winners so far:
NLF Super Series - LI Express
North American Lax Summer Invitational - Hawks
Young Guns - Big 4HHH
Millon Championship - LI Express
Naptown - Hawks
NLF Club - ??

Who won the Lax Clash ? There were plenty of good teams there

Igloo is not in the same class as Express or 91. They are barely an "A" level team and certainly not elite. Haven't even come close to beating anyone at the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team this summer?

Here are the best tournament winners so far:
NLF Super Series - LI Express
North American Lax Summer Invitational - Hawks
Young Guns - Big 4HHH
Millon Championship - LI Express
Naptown - Hawks
NLF Club - ??

Who really cares as long as your son is playing, getting better and having fun. But that's just me.

[quote=LaxFacts]I have to say, not being a 91 parent, the 3 day evaluation camp is an interesting move. The worst case is kids get 3 days of lax camp. I actually think people will send their kids just for the camp. One thing I would like to see is clubs consider is completing their invites for each top team and sending out a 2nd set of call backs for the other teams. The rationale is that some kids just go to tryouts to make the top team and reject the 2nd team invite. [/quo

I like the 3 day camp concept, for the money they are charging, its a fair deal. Also did anyone hear about one of the 91 older team coaches splitting and starting their own club or is it just another rumor I was told on the train. or is 91 adding another club to their portfolio.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=LaxFacts]I have to say, not being a 91 parent, the 3 day evaluation camp is an interesting move. The worst case is kids get 3 days of lax camp. I actually think people will send their kids just for the camp. One thing I would like to see is clubs consider is completing their invites for each top team and sending out a 2nd set of call backs for the other teams. The rationale is that some kids just go to tryouts to make the top team and reject the 2nd team invite. [/quo

I like the 3 day camp concept, for the money they are charging, its a fair deal. Also did anyone hear about one of the 91 older team coaches splitting and starting their own club or is it just another rumor I was told on the train. or is 91 adding another club to their portfolio.

United coach. Saw the tryout flier and that's all I know. Rumor is the Ducks are breaking off from 91 as their admin and geographically this could be the replacement solution. But just spitballing hut makes sense. United hates being classified B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team this summer?

Here are the best tournament winners so far:
NLF Super Series - LI Express
North American Lax Summer Invitational - Hawks
Young Guns - Big 4HHH
Millon Championship - LI Express
Naptown - Hawks
NLF Club - ??

91 beat Express at Lax Clash (the Express Tournament!) in OT. Does the Hawks club go to the NLF events? If they do, it seems like the winner of the last event with all the winners of the "Majors" there can claim the award. The winner will have the momentum as the teams get set for tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team this summer?

Here are the best tournament winners so far:
NLF Super Series - LI Express
North American Lax Summer Invitational - Hawks
Young Guns - Big 4HHH
Millon Championship - LI Express
Naptown - Hawks
NLF Club - ??

91 beat Express at Lax Clash (the Express Tournament!) in OT. Does the Hawks club go to the NLF events? If they do, it seems like the winner of the last event with all the winners of the "Majors" there can claim the award. The winner will have the momentum as the teams get set for tryouts.

Does it make a difference. 91 showed they are a top team at this age and Express remained one. And thesee two really separated themselves on LI. 91 should be able to put together a decent 2nd team and Express will try two A teams. BUT for it to work in my opinion the coaching has to be 100% separate (somebody over the age of 35). I would have no problem moving my kid to a decent 2nd team, if he is struggling to see the field and it was separate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably only going to be 3 powerhouses - 91, Express and Igloo. Unless Rebels can do what they say they are doing. Heard legacy kids flocking to the Rebels, so they would be depleted, and Ducks are losing top players to 91 or Express, and that team was already only marginal. But who really knows, half the rumors never pan out.

Really only 2 at the top. 91 and Express, everyone else scrambling to stay close. Nobody else on LI will beat them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably only going to be 3 powerhouses - 91, Express and Igloo. Unless Rebels can do what they say they are doing. Heard legacy kids flocking to the Rebels, so they would be depleted, and Ducks are losing top players to 91 or Express, and that team was already only marginal. But who really knows, half the rumors never pan out.

Don't be surprised of these teams start to have AA, A and B teams per grade as they try to keep the influx of kids from these programs that are less than spectacular or doing down the drain like Legacy

We've all heard the speeches...We are the anti-travel program, is all about kids, development first, 1 tem per grade. Than bam, 70 kids try out and the are 2 teams at every grade. If they would all just admit upfront it's a business and playing the better kids = wins=dollars. Find a small program, close to home, good friends, decent coaching and realize it's about what YOUR kid wants not you.

hold on to your red cups because the 2006 birthdays currently playing 2024 are coming down. whichever club gets majority of those boys is the team to beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team this summer?

Here are the best tournament winners so far:
NLF Super Series - LI Express
North American Lax Summer Invitational - Hawks
Young Guns - Big 4HHH
Millon Championship - LI Express
Naptown - Hawks
NLF Club - ??

91 beat Express at Lax Clash (the Express Tournament!) in OT. Does the Hawks club go to the NLF events? If they do, it seems like the winner of the last event with all the winners of the "Majors" there can claim the award. The winner will have the momentum as the teams get set for tryouts.

Does it make a difference. 91 showed they are a top team at this age and Express remained one. And thesee two really separated themselves on LI. 91 should be able to put together a decent 2nd team and Express will try two A teams. BUT for it to work in my opinion the coaching has to be 100% separate (somebody over the age of 35). I would have no problem moving my kid to a decent 2nd team, if he is struggling to see the field and it was separate.

Express with 2 A teams? And whose going to coach the second team? Bunch of nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hold on to your red cups because the 2006 birthdays currently playing 2024 are coming down. whichever club gets majority of those boys is the team to beat.

Not true this coming year.But next year for WSYL. Yes!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the best team this summer?

Here are the best tournament winners so far:
NLF Super Series - LI Express
North American Lax Summer Invitational - Hawks
Young Guns - Big 4HHH
Millon Championship - LI Express
Naptown - Hawks
NLF Club - ??

91 beat Express at Lax Clash (the Express Tournament!) in OT. Does the Hawks club go to the NLF events? If they do, it seems like the winner of the last event with all the winners of the "Majors" there can claim the award. The winner will have the momentum as the teams get set for tryouts.

Does it make a difference. 91 showed they are a top team at this age and Express remained one. And thesee two really separated themselves on LI. 91 should be able to put together a decent 2nd team and Express will try two A teams. BUT for it to work in my opinion the coaching has to be 100% separate (somebody over the age of 35). I would have no problem moving my kid to a decent 2nd team, if he is struggling to see the field and it was separate.

Express with 2 A teams? And whose going to coach the second team? Bunch of nonsense.

I predict they end up with 2 teams. Too much competition out there.

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hold on to your red cups because the 2006 birthdays currently playing 2024 are coming down. whichever club gets majority of those boys is the team to beat.

Not this year. but the following for WSYL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

We’ve had plenty of practices, so that argument doesn’t really hold up, but I have to say the extra $75 is a slap in the face, even if it is the only extra that they have grabbed. I held my nose and paid it and hope other parents decide their little Rabil should skip this one, especially the charity cases that they still have to play every game. If a bunch of the loser kids they’ve been carrying and their loser parents don’t show, then my Jr can load up on PT to end the year.Let’s hope they use the extra $2k to shorten the rosters next year! But do not bet the mortgage on it.

See ya at tryouts, suckers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

Don't forget the sheet they handed out at tryouts - tuition includes a free helmet. Oh, sorry, that was a typo. No free helmet for you. But, we'll sell you one for more than you can buy it retail.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

Don't forget the sheet they handed out at tryouts - tuition includes a free helmet. Oh, sorry, that was a typo. No free helmet for you. But, we'll sell you one for more than you can buy it retail.

Express you get a helmet, gloves, equipment bag, and warm up as part of the tuition. And any extras they put you in are free. The team may request to add and may be charged, but if the organization puts the team in, it's free.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

We’ve had plenty of practices, so that argument doesn’t really hold up, but I have to say the extra $75 is a slap in the face, even if it is the only extra that they have grabbed. I held my nose and paid it and hope other parents decide their little Rabil should skip this one, especially the charity cases that they still have to play every game. If a bunch of the loser kids they’ve been carrying and their loser parents don’t show, then my Jr can load up on PT to end the year.Let’s hope they use the extra $2k to shorten the rosters next year! But do not bet the mortgage on it.

See ya at tryouts, suckers!

So who are the charity cases and losers? Sounds more like your a complete loser and going to raise your kid to be one also. And a complete coward because you dont have the guts to stand up and say no, and just fork out the money. Sucker!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

Don't forget the sheet they handed out at tryouts - tuition includes a free helmet. Oh, sorry, that was a typo. No free helmet for you. But, we'll sell you one for more than you can buy it retail.

Yup! Absolutely true. Thats exactly what the sheet said. And then they renegaed on that as well.

Plus not sure if many of you noticied, but during tryouts 91 twittered that players would each get a couple one on one position training sessions. Then they deleted that tweet after rosters came out.

Thats not entirely true.
You get a helmet first year.
Second year you get gloves.
And Express is now on 15 or more tournaments.
They dont eat the cost of these extra tournaments. The players who go have to pay a tournament fee.
If players did not pay Express would be out of business real fast.

Rebels have the right idea with no additional charges through the year, and they are giving a lot of gear and training... lots of buzz going around.

Not true, express didn’t charge me a penny more for me to travel to Maryland and watch my son cheer from the sidelines while the same 15 kids played in every game no matter what the score was.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats not entirely true.
You get a helmet first year.
Second year you get gloves.
And Express is now on 15 or more tournaments.
They dont eat the cost of these extra tournaments. The players who go have to pay a tournament fee.
If players did not pay Express would be out of business real fast.

Read the thread they are talking about 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

Don't forget the sheet they handed out at tryouts - tuition includes a free helmet. Oh, sorry, that was a typo. No free helmet for you. But, we'll sell you one for more than you can buy it retail.

Yup! Absolutely true. Thats exactly what the sheet said. And then they renegaed on that as well.

Plus not sure if many of you noticied, but during tryouts 91 twittered that players would each get a couple one on one position training sessions. Then they deleted that tweet after rosters came out.

Fake helmets. Fake indoor training. Fake 91 tournaments with no competition. Real money grab on the last tournament of the year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not true, express didn’t charge me a penny more for me to travel to Maryland and watch my son cheer from the sidelines while the same 15 kids played in every game no matter what the score was.

91 and Express do exactly the same thing regarding playing time. So many talented kids not playing just bankrolling the organizations directors.
Time for people to wake up and move to other teams.
If the majority of those players left those teams and went to other teams, then there would be many great teams that could hd their own and even do better than 91 or Express.

If your smart you will unite with others who are in the same situation, and tryout together. This way you can be sure what sort of talent is on your new team you join next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels have the right idea with no additional charges through the year, and they are giving a lot of gear and training... lots of buzz going around.

Nice idea. Bur for a startup team they are charging a lot. They should be far more reasonable starting up.
And so.e of the team stuff they are giving, the kids dont even need.

Geese are back baby Champs again!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels have the right idea with no additional charges through the year, and they are giving a lot of gear and training... lots of buzz going around.

Nice idea. Bur for a startup team they are charging a lot. They should be far more reasonable starting up.
And so.e of the team stuff they are giving, the kids dont even need.

Of course they don’t need it, but it’s pretty awesome everything they are going to get!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats not entirely true.
You get a helmet first year.
Second year you get gloves.
And Express is now on 15 or more tournaments.
They dont eat the cost of these extra tournaments. The players who go have to pay a tournament fee.
If players did not pay Express would be out of business real fast.

Read the thread they are talking about 91.

You need to read the thread genius. I was responding to the following comment.

" Express you get a helmet, gloves, equipment bag, and warm up as part of the tuition. And any extras they put you in are free. The team may request to add and may be charged, but if the organization puts the team in, it's free."

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese are back baby Champs again!!

Congrats on championship.

Although I do think the competition at thus tournament was not tbe top level that the Geese used to play at.

However, I would like to see the Geese as one of the top teams again. I think the organization still needs to seriously invest in the team, but I believe it can happen.

Really happy for you. Go Geese!

Rebels

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels

I am assuming you are referring to the assistant coach who used to be with Legacy Geese.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

We’ve had plenty of practices, so that argument doesn’t really hold up, but I have to say the extra $75 is a slap in the face, even if it is the only extra that they have grabbed. I held my nose and paid it and hope other parents decide their little Rabil should skip this one, especially the charity cases that they still have to play every game. If a bunch of the loser kids they’ve been carrying and their loser parents don’t show, then my Jr can load up on PT to end the year.Let’s hope they use the extra $2k to shorten the rosters next year! But do not bet the mortgage on it.

See ya at tryouts, suckers!

So who are the charity cases and losers? Sounds more like your a complete loser and going to raise your kid to be one also. And a complete coward because you dont have the guts to stand up and say no, and just fork out the money. Sucker!

Your charity case son gets cut for starters! Besides yours, 4 kids on the team should have never seen the field this year, even in blowout games!!! After that gets taken care of, 4 or 5 more should get cut just to have a smaller roster.
.
The difficulty for the greedy folks at 91 will be keeping a small roster where the end of the bench doesn’t stink.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is some interesting news on Team 91. A week before the NLF Championship, they have announced that each 2025 player needs to fork up an extra $75 to participate. Not all of the 91 teams have to pay, just the ones with the sucker parents.

2025 Suckers pay for the 91 favorite teams to play. Tryouts for next batch of suckers in 2 weeks.

Thats completely true. Total BS. They said that team was to get 5 summer tournaments. Now saying that only covering part of 5th tournament. Absolute violation of contract with parents. They choose the tournaments, so since by contract they said that 5 summer tournaments were covered in tuition then they have to pay full cost of those tournaments.
Parents absolutely should insist 91 pays and not give them another dime.

They also never came through with their 15 weeks of winter training, also by contract stated was included. Because their new facility wasnt done and they wouldnt spend the money booking a training facility in advance. So everything was last minute. And they never had even close to 15 weeks. Yet never refunded for weeks not provided.

We’ve had plenty of practices, so that argument doesn’t really hold up, but I have to say the extra $75 is a slap in the face, even if it is the only extra that they have grabbed. I held my nose and paid it and hope other parents decide their little Rabil should skip this one, especially the charity cases that they still have to play every game. If a bunch of the loser kids they’ve been carrying and their loser parents don’t show, then my Jr can load up on PT to end the year.Let’s hope they use the extra $2k to shorten the rosters next year! But do not bet the mortgage on it.

See ya at tryouts, suckers!

So who are the charity cases and losers? Sounds more like your a complete loser and going to raise your kid to be one also. And a complete coward because you dont have the guts to stand up and say no, and just fork out the money. Sucker!

Your charity case son gets cut for starters! Besides yours, 4 kids on the team should have never seen the field this year, even in blowout games!!! After that gets taken care of, 4 or 5 more should get cut just to have a smaller roster.
.
The difficulty for the greedy folks at 91 will be keeping a small roster where the end of the bench doesn’t stink.

First of all loser, you dont even know if I have a son that plays for 91.
I was responding to your disgusting idea that you could refer to anyone as charity cases.
91 coaches should be ashamed to have a parent like you associated with their team.

And lets see stunad, if you cut 10 kids from a normal 22-24 roster then you are left with 12-14 kids. Not enough to field a team.
But as everyone knows 91 added a few mid season that they underhandedly took from another team. So after cutting 10 kids you would have 15-18 kids. Still not an adequate number for a competitive team.
Truly math is not your strong point. Although I doubt you have any strong points.

And doesnt say much for you that you want your son playing for a team where the organization accepts kids, according to your description, to pad their own pockets. As I said before, seems your raising your kid to be a loser just like yourself.
Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Has to be the Legacy assistant coach Reilly. One bad dude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Has to be the Legacy assistant coach Reilly. One bad dude.

No. Follow the conversation. They said they were referring to the Rebels.
Reilly is not with the Rebels.
They must be referring to the old assistant coach of Legacy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Has to be the Legacy assistant coach Reilly. One bad dude.

2025 Rebels!! Not a good spot!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hold on to your red cups because the 2006 birthdays currently playing 2024 are coming down. whichever club gets majority of those boys is the team to beat.

Not this year. but the following for WSYL

If they are the right age,that's fine with me.Let them play!

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Has to be the Legacy assistant coach Reilly. One bad dude.

Gotta love it when dads take over a team from the head coach and run everything through junior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Has to be the Legacy assistant coach Reilly. One bad dude.

Gotta love it when dads take over a team from the head coach and run everything through junior.

You need to follow the thread.
They are talking about the Rebels team and coach on that team.
Not anyone that is at Legacy now.
Has nothing to do with Reilly.
91 parents need to stop inserting their biases into every thread.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Has to be the Legacy assistant coach Reilly. One bad dude.

No. Follow the conversation. They said they were referring to the Rebels.
Reilly is not with the Rebels.
They must be referring to the old assistant coach of Legacy.

Fran. I like him from what I know of him. Seems like a solid guy. We used to play his Islip team all the time and he helped all the kids, even the ones not on his team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Has to be the Legacy assistant coach Reilly. One bad dude.

No. Follow the conversation. They said they were referring to the Rebels.
Reilly is not with the Rebels.
They must be referring to the old assistant coach of Legacy.

Fran. I like him from what I know of him. Seems like a solid guy. We used to play his Islip team all the time and he helped all the kids, even the ones not on his team.

Good to hear. Dont know much about him, so I hope everyrhing works out for him at Rebels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Be real. Read the threads. Express does exactly the same, not playing kids. Parents on this blog have confirmed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Yup, to be fair only criticism is the rosters. No drama, might be some short term drama with the two A team thing potentially happening. But I think any kids moved down will leave. Because with 91 forming a 2nd team, Geese on the rebuild and Rebels forming, Plus there are a lot of very good teams like Igloo, rebels (old Ducks), Knights, True Blue and Force. They’ll be a lot of choice and a lot of opportunities I would guess. And I am sure I left some teams off. But all good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Yup, to be fair only criticism is the rosters. No drama, might be some short term drama with the two A team thing potentially happening. But I think any kids moved down will leave. Because with 91 forming a 2nd team, Geese on the rebuild and Rebels forming, Plus there are a lot of very good teams like Igloo, rebels (old Ducks), Knights, True Blue and Force. They’ll be a lot of choice and a lot of opportunities I would guess. And I am sure I left some teams off. But all good.

Rebels are not the Old Ducks.
Rebels are formed from Brennan who was with the Outlaws.

LI rebels is the old Ducks.
Ducks coaches broke away because they didnt want to be under Dynamic Lacrosse anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

No playing time either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Be real. Read the threads. Express does exactly the same, not playing kids. Parents on this blog have confirmed.

Lol. The parents know that going in. They accept and stay with the team for the practice and coaching. To each his own and done judging.People are free to what they think is best.

First of all loser, you dont even know if I have a son that plays for 91.
I was responding to your disgusting idea that you could refer to anyone as charity cases.
91 coaches should be ashamed to have a parent like you associated with their team.

And lets see stunad, if you cut 10 kids from a normal 22-24 roster then you are left with 12-14 kids. Not enough to field a team.
But as everyone knows 91 added a few mid season that they underhandedly took from another team. So after cutting 10 kids you would have 15-18 kids. Still not an adequate number for a competitive team.
Truly math is not your strong point. Although I doubt you have any strong points.

And doesnt say much for you that you want your son playing for a team where the organization accepts kids, according to your description, to pad their own pockets. As I said before, seems your raising your kid to be a loser just like yourself.
Loser. [/quote]

First of all Einstein, 91 will add about 5 new AND better kids from tryouts to get the roster to 21 and be done with it. Then after the heartbreak of not making it sets in for your boy, you can go over to the Geese or some other lesser club. As long as my little man gets his, then it’s all good. Winners win baby!

Other boys catching up pretty quick this season. But I don’t think you’ve noticed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all loser, you dont even know if I have a son that plays for 91.
I was responding to your disgusting idea that you could refer to anyone as charity cases.
91 coaches should be ashamed to have a parent like you associated with their team.

And lets see stunad, if you cut 10 kids from a normal 22-24 roster then you are left with 12-14 kids. Not enough to field a team.
But as everyone knows 91 added a few mid season that they underhandedly took from another team. So after cutting 10 kids you would have 15-18 kids. Still not an adequate number for a competitive team.
Truly math is not your strong point. Although I doubt you have any strong points.

And doesnt say much for you that you want your son playing for a team where the organization accepts kids, according to your description, to pad their own pockets. As I said before, seems your raising your kid to be a loser just like yourself.
Loser.

First of all Einstein, 91 will add about 5 new AND better kids from tryouts to get the roster to 21 and be done with it. Then after the heartbreak of not making it sets in for your boy, you can go over to the Geese or some other lesser club. As long as my little man gets his, then it’s all good. Winners win baby![/quote]

Notice how 91 is cheaping out on everything this year? Charging extra for tournaments that are supposed to be included. Crappy helmet stickers instead of nice headwraps like in years past. No socks with the uniform like every year before. Not renting indoor space for their 91 Training Academy that is "included in your tuition" like they did the prior year (instead they put kids outdoors at Farmingdale in December). They cut corners everywhere they could this year. 91 bled money on getting their vaunted indoor space set up and are trying to recoup their losses from their bad business decisions.

23 kids. Bank on it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Yup, to be fair only criticism is the rosters. No drama, might be some short term drama with the two A team thing potentially happening. But I think any kids moved down will leave. Because with 91 forming a 2nd team, Geese on the rebuild and Rebels forming, Plus there are a lot of very good teams like Igloo, rebels (old Ducks), Knights, True Blue and Force. They’ll be a lot of choice and a lot of opportunities I would guess. And I am sure I left some teams off. But all good.

Rebels are not the Old Ducks.
Rebels are formed from Brennan who was with the Outlaws.

LI rebels is the old Ducks.
Ducks coaches broke away because they didnt want to be under Dynamic Lacrosse anymore.

Should read
LI rebels is the Old Ducks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all loser, you dont even know if I have a son that plays for 91.
I was responding to your disgusting idea that you could refer to anyone as charity cases.
91 coaches should be ashamed to have a parent like you associated with their team.

And lets see stunad, if you cut 10 kids from a normal 22-24 roster then you are left with 12-14 kids. Not enough to field a team.
But as everyone knows 91 added a few mid season that they underhandedly took from another team. So after cutting 10 kids you would have 15-18 kids. Still not an adequate number for a competitive team.
Truly math is not your strong point. Although I doubt you have any strong points.

And doesnt say much for you that you want your son playing for a team where the organization accepts kids, according to your description, to pad their own pockets. As I said before, seems your raising your kid to be a loser just like yourself.
Loser.

First of all Einstein, 91 will add about 5 new AND better kids from tryouts to get the roster to 21 and be done with it. Then after the heartbreak of not making it sets in for your boy, you can go over to the Geese or some other lesser club. As long as my little man gets his, then it’s all good. Winners win baby![/quote]

Your a blithering stunad.
Seniliity seems to be checking in, because you dont even remember what you wrote.
You wanted to cut 10 kids to get down to a smaller roster. If you add 5 after, why did you cut 10 fool.
Unless your saying you have 10 kids (almost half your team) which by your opinion cant play.
Wow! What parent wants their kid on a team with a dipwad like you and your kid on it. Not so many now after reading your ignorant ranting.
I certainly would not have my kid trying out for a team that allows a blockhead like you to be a part of it.
But you keep paying loser. You dont even realise that your the sucker.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Yup, to be fair only criticism is the rosters. No drama, might be some short term drama with the two A team thing potentially happening. But I think any kids moved down will leave. Because with 91 forming a 2nd team, Geese on the rebuild and Rebels forming, Plus there are a lot of very good teams like Igloo, rebels (old Ducks), Knights, True Blue and Force. They’ll be a lot of choice and a lot of opportunities I would guess. And I am sure I left some teams off. But all good.

Rebels are not the Old Ducks.
Rebels are formed from Brennan who was with the Outlaws.

LI rebels is the old Ducks.
Ducks coaches broke away because they didnt want to be under Dynamic Lacrosse anymore.

rebels, not Rebels. Typo, sorry

Looking forward to watching all the “losers kids “blow past your superstar ! Considering you stopped growing in 7th grade and have the voice to match. He will follow in your foot steps and become a zero Just like you !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Other boys catching up pretty quick this season. But I don’t think you’ve noticed.

That 91 parent doesnt have enough brain cells to notice anything. Total loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No drama on Express. Great coaching at the grade.

That may be the funniest thing I have read in a long time!!

Best team in the grade. And will likely win this weekend. And no drama or better said, drama creators.

Good group of parents and kids. Way too many kids for one team, but a good group.

Yup, to be fair only criticism is the rosters. No drama, might be some short term drama with the two A team thing potentially happening. But I think any kids moved down will leave. Because with 91 forming a 2nd team, Geese on the rebuild and Rebels forming, Plus there are a lot of very good teams like Igloo, rebels (old Ducks), Knights, True Blue and Force. They’ll be a lot of choice and a lot of opportunities I would guess. And I am sure I left some teams off. But all good.

Rebels are not the Old Ducks.
Rebels are formed from Brennan who was with the Outlaws.

LI rebels is the old Ducks.
Ducks coaches broke away because they didnt want to be under Dynamic Lacrosse anymore.

The LI rebels are the old Ducks. Those coaches broke away to form that new organization. Get your facts straight.

It’s R-U-S-H. Somehow it keeps posting rebels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware one of the coaches comes with lots of baggage. His family is very cancerous!! Just a little free advise for the unknown.

Which team are you referring too?

Has to be the Legacy assistant coach Reilly. One bad dude.

No. Follow the conversation. They said they were referring to the Rebels.
Reilly is not with the Rebels.
They must be referring to the old assistant coach of Legacy.

Fran. I like him from what I know of him. Seems like a solid guy. We used to play his Islip team all the time and he helped all the kids, even the ones not on his team.

Good to hear. Dont know much about him, so I hope everyrhing works out for him at Rebels.

If you get to know him, he is a very talented coach, and a better guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to watching all the “losers kids “blow past your superstar ! Considering you stopped growing in 7th grade and have the voice to match. He will follow in your foot steps and become a zero Just like you !!

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
So true!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all loser, you dont even know if I have a son that plays for 91.
I was responding to your disgusting idea that you could refer to anyone as charity cases.
91 coaches should be ashamed to have a parent like you associated with their team.

And lets see stunad, if you cut 10 kids from a normal 22-24 roster then you are left with 12-14 kids. Not enough to field a team.
But as everyone knows 91 added a few mid season that they underhandedly took from another team. So after cutting 10 kids you would have 15-18 kids. Still not an adequate number for a competitive team.
Truly math is not your strong point. Although I doubt you have any strong points.

And doesnt say much for you that you want your son playing for a team where the organization accepts kids, according to your description, to pad their own pockets. As I said before, seems your raising your kid to be a loser just like yourself.
Loser.

First of all Einstein, 91 will add about 5 new AND better kids from tryouts to get the roster to 21 and be done with it. Then after the heartbreak of not making it sets in for your boy, you can go over to the Geese or some other lesser club. As long as my little man gets his, then it’s all good. Winners win baby!

Your a blithering stunad.
Seniliity seems to be checking in, because you dont even remember what you wrote.
You wanted to cut 10 kids to get down to a smaller roster. If you add 5 after, why did you cut 10 fool.
Unless your saying you have 10 kids (almost half your team) which by your opinion cant play.
Wow! What parent wants their kid on a team with a dipwad like you and your kid on it. Not so many now after reading your ignorant ranting.
I certainly would not have my kid trying out for a team that allows a blockhead like you to be a part of it.
But you keep paying loser. You dont even realise that your the sucker.
[/quote]

You finally have it!!! Cut 10 who are not good enough or are just terrible and add 5 better players.
If the 91 staff do the right thing then the team gets better across the board. The organization has to do it! No more favors, legacies or hopes for potential. Real Lax guys won't need 15 hours to see that your kid doesn't fit the mold but they must focus their try out camp efforts on identifying and selecting the better players. Mine will be chosen as he'll dominate and if he is not one of the best, then cut him, but that's not happening. Cull the herd or survival of the fittest, call it what you want. Let junior come on down and give it a shot, or stick with your club where you all get along that won't have guys like me or players like my son. We prefer to be with our own kind, WINNERS!

And please learn to check your grammar and spelling before calling anyone an stunad.

But the helmet wrap would have hidden his shiny orange helmet, and then he’d be just like everyone else!!! Noooooooooooooo!!

Hey High pitch Eric you really need to get off your high horse bro!
Your kids not that great!!! He will be passed by soon enough !
You should think about starting up the mixed nuts again! Cats outta the bag baby!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all loser, you dont even know if I have a son that plays for 91.
I was responding to your disgusting idea that you could refer to anyone as charity cases.
91 coaches should be ashamed to have a parent like you associated with their team.

And lets see stunad, if you cut 10 kids from a normal 22-24 roster then you are left with 12-14 kids. Not enough to field a team.
But as everyone knows 91 added a few mid season that they underhandedly took from another team. So after cutting 10 kids you would have 15-18 kids. Still not an adequate number for a competitive team.
Truly math is not your strong point. Although I doubt you have any strong points.

And doesnt say much for you that you want your son playing for a team where the organization accepts kids, according to your description, to pad their own pockets. As I said before, seems your raising your kid to be a loser just like yourself.
Loser.

First of all Einstein, 91 will add about 5 new AND better kids from tryouts to get the roster to 21 and be done with it. Then after the heartbreak of not making it sets in for your boy, you can go over to the Geese or some other lesser club. As long as my little man gets his, then it’s all good. Winners win baby!

Your a blithering stunad.
Seniliity seems to be checking in, because you dont even remember what you wrote.
You wanted to cut 10 kids to get down to a smaller roster. If you add 5 after, why did you cut 10 fool.
Unless your saying you have 10 kids (almost half your team) which by your opinion cant play.
Wow! What parent wants their kid on a team with a dipwad like you and your kid on it. Not so many now after reading your ignorant ranting.
I certainly would not have my kid trying out for a team that allows a blockhead like you to be a part of it.
But you keep paying loser. You dont even realise that your the sucker.

You finally have it!!! Cut 10 who are not good enough or are just terrible and add 5 better players.
If the 91 staff do the right thing then the team gets better across the board. The organization has to do it! No more favors, legacies or hopes for potential. Real Lax guys won't need 15 hours to see that your kid doesn't fit the mold but they must focus their try out camp efforts on identifying and selecting the better players. Mine will be chosen as he'll dominate and if he is not one of the best, then cut him, but that's not happening. Cull the herd or survival of the fittest, call it what you want. Let junior come on down and give it a shot, or stick with your club where you all get along that won't have guys like me or players like my son. We prefer to be with our own kind, WINNERS!

And please learn to check your grammar and spelling before calling anyone an stunad.
[/quote]

I called you something worse. The moderators changed it to stunad you stunad. So loser you just insulted the moderator. What a fool you are.

So the 91 coaches can pick good players this year, but couldnt in the past?
Your just spinning your wheels, digging yourself into a bigger hole. You make no sense, which probably means your kid lacks brain cells as well. And with you as a dad, it wont be long until he is completely passed by. Its the smarter players who actually end up ahead in the end.

And plenty of people read this blog and just like me wont be intetested in trying out for a team with a parent like you on it.

Lets see then how many of the directors and coaches want you on the team after reading this. And believe me they read it. They may say they dont, but they do.

And from the posts it appears everyone knows exactly who you are.
Sucker!

None of you have any idea if all this nonsense is a 91 parent or a troll. Or a director from a competitor for that matter. Yes, they are that shady ... all of them. Chan and 91 got their orange team colors from the prison jumpsuits they used to wear.

I will say the only thing I agree with is... I suspect most coaches and directors read these posts. True, half true or fantasy, most people who run a business are interested to hear what is being said about their business and more importantly their competition. I do think a lot of people that post believe that and try to passive aggressively give feedback via a post. And, yes... I am guilty of that as well. LOL, but all good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of you have any idea if all this nonsense is a 91 parent or a troll. Or a director from a competitor for that matter. Yes, they are that shady ... all of them. Chan and 91 got their orange team colors from the prison jumpsuits they used to wear.

Nope. That is absolutely a 91 parent. And its so clear based on what he said who it is. And its abhorrant that its allowed to continue on the team.

Whose High Pitch? This is Kelly Clarksonnnnnnnn

Word is 91 Dad coach rolling his kid back down to his original grade should be fun to see who takes control of the circus now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Word is 91 Dad coach rolling his kid back down to his original grade should be fun to see who takes control of the circus now

Which coach is that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all loser, you dont even know if I have a son that plays for 91.
I was responding to your disgusting idea that you could refer to anyone as charity cases.
91 coaches should be ashamed to have a parent like you associated with their team.

And lets see stunad, if you cut 10 kids from a normal 22-24 roster then you are left with 12-14 kids. Not enough to field a team.
But as everyone knows 91 added a few mid season that they underhandedly took from another team. So after cutting 10 kids you would have 15-18 kids. Still not an adequate number for a competitive team.
Truly math is not your strong point. Although I doubt you have any strong points.

And doesnt say much for you that you want your son playing for a team where the organization accepts kids, according to your description, to pad their own pockets. As I said before, seems your raising your kid to be a loser just like yourself.
Loser.

First of all Einstein, 91 will add about 5 new AND better kids from tryouts to get the roster to 21 and be done with it. Then after the heartbreak of not making it sets in for your boy, you can go over to the Geese or some other lesser club. As long as my little man gets his, then it’s all good. Winners win baby!

Your a blithering stunad.
Seniliity seems to be checking in, because you dont even remember what you wrote.
You wanted to cut 10 kids to get down to a smaller roster. If you add 5 after, why did you cut 10 fool.
Unless your saying you have 10 kids (almost half your team) which by your opinion cant play.
Wow! What parent wants their kid on a team with a dipwad like you and your kid on it. Not so many now after reading your ignorant ranting.
I certainly would not have my kid trying out for a team that allows a blockhead like you to be a part of it.
But you keep paying loser. You dont even realise that your the sucker.

You finally have it!!! Cut 10 who are not good enough or are just terrible and add 5 better players.
If the 91 staff do the right thing then the team gets better across the board. The organization has to do it! No more favors, legacies or hopes for potential. Real Lax guys won't need 15 hours to see that your kid doesn't fit the mold but they must focus their try out camp efforts on identifying and selecting the better players. Mine will be chosen as he'll dominate and if he is not one of the best, then cut him, but that's not happening. Cull the herd or survival of the fittest, call it what you want. Let junior come on down and give it a shot, or stick with your club where you all get along that won't have guys like me or players like my son. We prefer to be with our own kind, WINNERS!

And please learn to check your grammar and spelling before calling anyone an stunad.

I called you something worse. The moderators changed it to stunad you stunad. So loser you just insulted the moderator. What a fool you are.

So the 91 coaches can pick good players this year, but couldnt in the past?
Your just spinning your wheels, digging yourself into a bigger hole. You make no sense, which probably means your kid lacks brain cells as well. And with you as a dad, it wont be long until he is completely passed by. Its the smarter players who actually end up ahead in the end.

And plenty of people read this blog and just like me wont be intetested in trying out for a team with a parent like you on it.

Lets see then how many of the directors and coaches want you on the team after reading this. And believe me they read it. They may say they dont, but they do.

And from the posts it appears everyone knows exactly who you are.
Sucker!
[/quote]

You think people know who I am but you will never know. All that I know is that the team is getting better and my son is going to dominate as usual. Everyone with any sense of what it takes to play lacrosse will fight to have us as a part of their team. Enjoy eating our dust.

Everyone is an internet tough guy when they are anonymous. 😂😂💪🏻💪🏻

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all loser, you dont even know if I have a son that plays for 91.
I was responding to your disgusting idea that you could refer to anyone as charity cases.
91 coaches should be ashamed to have a parent like you associated with their team.

And lets see stunad, if you cut 10 kids from a normal 22-24 roster then you are left with 12-14 kids. Not enough to field a team.
But as everyone knows 91 added a few mid season that they underhandedly took from another team. So after cutting 10 kids you would have 15-18 kids. Still not an adequate number for a competitive team.
Truly math is not your strong point. Although I doubt you have any strong points.

And doesnt say much for you that you want your son playing for a team where the organization accepts kids, according to your description, to pad their own pockets. As I said before, seems your raising your kid to be a loser just like yourself.
Loser.

First of all Einstein, 91 will add about 5 new AND better kids from tryouts to get the roster to 21 and be done with it. Then after the heartbreak of not making it sets in for your boy, you can go over to the Geese or some other lesser club. As long as my little man gets his, then it’s all good. Winners win baby!

Your a blithering stunad.
Seniliity seems to be checking in, because you dont even remember what you wrote.
You wanted to cut 10 kids to get down to a smaller roster. If you add 5 after, why did you cut 10 fool.
Unless your saying you have 10 kids (almost half your team) which by your opinion cant play.
Wow! What parent wants their kid on a team with a dipwad like you and your kid on it. Not so many now after reading your ignorant ranting.
I certainly would not have my kid trying out for a team that allows a blockhead like you to be a part of it.
But you keep paying loser. You dont even realise that your the sucker.

You finally have it!!! Cut 10 who are not good enough or are just terrible and add 5 better players.
If the 91 staff do the right thing then the team gets better across the board. The organization has to do it! No more favors, legacies or hopes for potential. Real Lax guys won't need 15 hours to see that your kid doesn't fit the mold but they must focus their try out camp efforts on identifying and selecting the better players. Mine will be chosen as he'll dominate and if he is not one of the best, then cut him, but that's not happening. Cull the herd or survival of the fittest, call it what you want. Let junior come on down and give it a shot, or stick with your club where you all get along that won't have guys like me or players like my son. We prefer to be with our own kind, WINNERS!

And please learn to check your grammar and spelling before calling anyone an stunad.

I called you something worse. The moderators changed it to stunad you stunad. So loser you just insulted the moderator. What a fool you are.

So the 91 coaches can pick good players this year, but couldnt in the past?
Your just spinning your wheels, digging yourself into a bigger hole. You make no sense, which probably means your kid lacks brain cells as well. And with you as a dad, it wont be long until he is completely passed by. Its the smarter players who actually end up ahead in the end.

And plenty of people read this blog and just like me wont be intetested in trying out for a team with a parent like you on it.

Lets see then how many of the directors and coaches want you on the team after reading this. And believe me they read it. They may say they dont, but they do.

And from the posts it appears everyone knows exactly who you are.
Sucker!

You think people know who I am but you will never know. All that I know is that the team is getting better and my son is going to dominate as usual. Everyone with any sense of what it takes to play lacrosse will fight to have us as a part of their team. Enjoy eating our dust.
[/quote]

Dude I can see the sweat dripping off you right now.
You know everyone knows and just called you out "high pitch eric" who tried to play coach with mixed nuts.
And of course everyone outside your team knows who that is, and coaches on your team and off.
Most of course have been laughing behind your back for years, because of the whiny fool you and your kid is.
Noone wants any part of you or any team your on. Keep dreaming loser.

Tell your kids to hit the wall, maybe they will catch up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tell your kids to hit the wall, maybe they will catch up.

An assistant coach for 91 should no far better than to make statements like that on a forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude I can see the sweat dripping off you right now.
You know everyone knows and just called you out "high pitch eric" who tried to play coach with mixed nuts.
And of course everyone outside your team knows who that is, and coaches on your team and off.
Most of course have been laughing behind your back for years, because of the whiny fool you and your kid is.
Noone wants any part of you or any team your on. Keep dreaming loser.

Let me get this right. You just called a 10 or 11 year old boy a whiny fool? Because you want to attack his dad who you think is posting here but have no real idea who it is? What a dumb butt you are. Beyond dumb. I'm not even sure how you've survived this long in life.

Need a topic change. Stop feeding the nonsense. How about with tryouts pending everyone post one question that should be asked when you receive a team invite. Btw, if you ask and get no response, question answered.

Mine, sorta two, breaking my own rules

Please let me know the roster size invited by position and will the club add?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Need a topic change. Stop feeding the nonsense. How about with tryouts pending everyone post one question that should be asked when you receive a team invite. Btw, if you ask and get no response, question answered.

Mine, sorta two, breaking my own rules

Please let me know the roster size invited by position and will the club add?

Always good questions. And, if two teams within the same age group, ensure you know which team upfront and whether they rotate between during the season.

do any clubs let the star kids play for free?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude I can see the sweat dripping off you right now.
You know everyone knows and just called you out "high pitch eric" who tried to play coach with mixed nuts.
And of course everyone outside your team knows who that is, and coaches on your team and off.
Most of course have been laughing behind your back for years, because of the whiny fool you and your kid is.
Noone wants any part of you or any team your on. Keep dreaming loser.

Let me get this right. You just called a 10 or 11 year old boy a whiny fool? Because you want to attack his dad who you think is posting here but have no real idea who it is? What a dumb butt you are. Beyond dumb. I'm not even sure how you've survived this long in life.

You are correct that I should not have brought in the kid. And I withdraw the part about "what your kid is".

I allowed myself to sink to his level in replying to him, based on his repeated insults of other kids he termed as
- losers
-who never should have seen the field even in blowout games
- are not good enough or terrible
- dont fit the mold
- charity cases

But I find it interesting that you quickly respond to criticise 4 words added to the end of my sentence, but have not responded to the absolutely horrific statements he has made about multiple other kids on his team.
Which leads me to believe that your just a crony of his looking to deflect.

So you can criticise me all you want, but I realise when i overstep and take ownership.
Unfortanatelly, you pal there, is the disgusting human being he portrays.

And your response criticising my 4 little words, but not addressing the insults he slung out against other kids on your team, only show how deeply embedded in this 91 team is a complete lack of true sports ethics.

And it also proves even further that we are all right that it was "high pitched eric" who had tried coaching mixed nuts.

Now the quuestion is whether the coaches and 91 organization
- the ones he termed as the greedy people at 91
- the ones he feels didnt have the ability to pick talented kids in last years tryouts
Whether they have the balls to cut a cancerous person like him from the team.

Only time will tell, and it will say a lot about the organisation.

Meanwhile, its questionable what decent parents with talented kids will want anything to do with your team. I defenitely dont.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Need a topic change. Stop feeding the nonsense. How about with tryouts pending everyone post one question that should be asked when you receive a team invite. Btw, if you ask and get no response, question answered.

Mine, sorta two, breaking my own rules

Please let me know the roster size invited by position and will the club add?

And if you ask that or anything else, be sure you ask it in writing.
Because many will say whatever you want to hear verbally, but not acknowledge what they said later after you pay the bill.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude I can see the sweat dripping off you right now.
You know everyone knows and just called you out "high pitch eric" who tried to play coach with mixed nuts.
And of course everyone outside your team knows who that is, and coaches on your team and off.
Most of course have been laughing behind your back for years, because of the whiny fool you and your kid is.
Noone wants any part of you or any team your on. Keep dreaming loser.

Let me get this right. You just called a 10 or 11 year old boy a whiny fool? Because you want to attack his dad who you think is posting here but have no real idea who it is? What a dumb butt you are. Beyond dumb. I'm not even sure how you've survived this long in life.

You are correct that I should not have brought in the kid. And I withdraw the part about "what your kid is".

I allowed myself to sink to his level in replying to him, based on his repeated insults of other kids he termed as
- losers
-who never should have seen the field even in blowout games
- are not good enough or terrible
- dont fit the mold
- charity cases

But I find it interesting that you quickly respond to criticise 4 words added to the end of my sentence, but have not responded to the absolutely horrific statements he has made about multiple other kids on his team.
Which leads me to believe that your just a crony of his looking to deflect.

So you can criticise me all you want, but I realise when i overstep and take ownership.
Unfortanatelly, you pal there, is the disgusting human being he portrays.

And your response criticising my 4 little words, but not addressing the insults he slung out against other kids on your team, only show how deeply embedded in this 91 team is a complete lack of true sports ethics.

And it also proves even further that we are all right that it was "high pitched eric" who had tried coaching mixed nuts.

Now the quuestion is whether the coaches and 91 organization
- the ones he termed as the greedy people at 91
- the ones he feels didnt have the ability to pick talented kids in last years tryouts
Whether they have the balls to cut a cancerous person like him from the team.

Only time will tell, and it will say a lot about the organisation.

Meanwhile, its questionable what decent parents with talented kids will want anything to do with your team. I defenitely dont.

I'll break it down so maybe you have a chance to understand:

You assume you know who the poster is. You don't.

You can't prove it is the person you *think* it is because of the nature of this site.

The post could have been written by anyone. It is not very hard to pick a few choice words and make something sound like another person wrote it.

You are attacking a person based on an assumption. You are calling a person names, attacking his child and so forth based on assumption. One that is likely false. That is slander. Go ahead, look up the word. With your spelling and grammatical errors, a dictionary might do you some good.

It is intriguing to me that you care so much for a team you have no desire to be a part of. Thank you for your concern. We're fine. You may move along now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude I can see the sweat dripping off you right now.
You know everyone knows and just called you out "high pitch eric" who tried to play coach with mixed nuts.
And of course everyone outside your team knows who that is, and coaches on your team and off.
Most of course have been laughing behind your back for years, because of the whiny fool you and your kid is.
Noone wants any part of you or any team your on. Keep dreaming loser.

Let me get this right. You just called a 10 or 11 year old boy a whiny fool? Because you want to attack his dad who you think is posting here but have no real idea who it is? What a dumb butt you are. Beyond dumb. I'm not even sure how you've survived this long in life.

You are correct that I should not have brought in the kid. And I withdraw the part about "what your kid is".

I allowed myself to sink to his level in replying to him, based on his repeated insults of other kids he termed as
- losers
-who never should have seen the field even in blowout games
- are not good enough or terrible
- dont fit the mold
- charity cases

But I find it interesting that you quickly respond to criticise 4 words added to the end of my sentence, but have not responded to the absolutely horrific statements he has made about multiple other kids on his team.
Which leads me to believe that your just a crony of his looking to deflect.

So you can criticise me all you want, but I realise when i overstep and take ownership.
Unfortanatelly, you pal there, is the disgusting human being he portrays.

And your response criticising my 4 little words, but not addressing the insults he slung out against other kids on your team, only show how deeply embedded in this 91 team is a complete lack of true sports ethics.

And it also proves even further that we are all right that it was "high pitched eric" who had tried coaching mixed nuts.

Now the quuestion is whether the coaches and 91 organization
- the ones he termed as the greedy people at 91
- the ones he feels didnt have the ability to pick talented kids in last years tryouts
Whether they have the balls to cut a cancerous person like him from the team.

Only time will tell, and it will say a lot about the organisation.

Meanwhile, its questionable what decent parents with talented kids will want anything to do with your team. I defenitely dont.

I'll break it down so maybe you have a chance to understand:

You assume you know who the poster is. You don't.

You can't prove it is the person you *think* it is because of the nature of this site.

The post could have been written by anyone. It is not very hard to pick a few choice words and make something sound like another person wrote it.

You are attacking a person based on an assumption. You are calling a person names, attacking his child and so forth based on assumption. One that is likely false. That is slander. Go ahead, look up the word. With your spelling and grammatical errors, a dictionary might do you some good.

It is intriguing to me that you care so much for a team you have no desire to be a part of. Thank you for your concern. We're fine. You may move along now.

Again you prove I and other posters are right by your complete lack of response to the insulting statements made by the poster against half the players on your team. You seem to care a lot about that poster but not about any of the other players on your team who were slandered by him.

Again proving your a crony of this "high pitched Eric" and just trying to deflect.

And i have no concerns about the extent of my vocabulary or my grammatical ability. It clearly far outpasses yours. But thanks for your concern. Why dont you take your own advice and move along. And tell "hiigh pitched Eric" to do that also.

Is “outpasses” a word?

Eat our dust!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is “outpasses” a word?

Eat our dust!

This is too funny. How much more of a dimwit can you show yourself to be.

Yes "outpass" is a word. Let me introduce you to the dictionary.

outpass. Verb. (third-person singular simple present outpasses, present participle outpassing, simple past and past participle outpassed) To surpass or exceed. (sports) To pass the ball more skilfully than.

You are such a sad little man.

Well one thing is for certain, I am staying far away from this club. How is it even enjoyable? There has been so much silent drama. Have a great weekend at NLF.

I believe the word that should have been used there is surpasses 😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe the word that should have been used there is surpasses 😂

Surpasses is a synonym of outpasses. They both mean the same. They borh can be used interchangeably.

we got some real wordasaurus' here today... Igloo stinks

I heard true blue has some big time players trying out. Should be interesting to see.

Was at igloo tryouts yesterday, other then the igloo helmets and one attacker with an express helmet not much talent there. Before you start the express kid is not mine, we are hoping for the B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well one thing is for certain, I am staying far away from this club. How is it even enjoyable? There has been so much silent drama. Have a great weekend at NLF.

Im with you.
Crossing 91 tryouts off the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard true blue has some big time players trying out. Should be interesting to see.

The better players go to the best teams. True Blue is solid, but still 7 to 10 goals worse than Express. That’s too big a gap to close. Express is the best team in the age this year. That’s where the “big time” players will go. And I didn’t hear that, it’s my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we got some real wordasaurus' here today... Igloo stinks

What does the wordsaurus comment have to do with igloo???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is “outpasses” a word?

Eat our dust!

This is too funny. How much more of a dimwit can you show yourself to be.

Yes "outpass" is a word. Let me introduce you to the dictionary.

outpass. Verb. (third-person singular simple present outpasses, present participle outpassing, simple past and past participle outpassed) To surpass or exceed. (sports) To pass the ball more skilfully than.

You are such a sad little man.

You used it incorrectly dope.

Eat our dust. Come get some baby!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard true blue has some big time players trying out. Should be interesting to see.

The better players go to the best teams. True Blue is solid, but still 7 to 10 goals worse than Express. That’s too big a gap to close. Express is the best team in the age this year. That’s where the “big time” players will go. And I didn’t hear that, it’s my opinion.

I agree plenty of players will try out for Express. But Express has already a huge player load. And many many good players.

Some parents of good players will stay with Express for the training, even though their kid is not getting playing time.
But there are others on Express now, or who will tryout, with talented players who are only playing 2nd or 3rd line who realise they could be starters somewhere else.

And with teams like Igloo, True Blue, LI R-U-S-H (former Ducks), Rebels out there who play the A level tournaments, these talented players will have a greater possibility of becoming starters and getting more playtime due to smaller rosters.

After all what fun is it for a talented kid who loves lacrosse to be on a team where he doesnt get real playtime in tournaments.
Of course to each there own.
But U do believe you will see a movement of many talented kids to these other teams. Which I think is great because it will produce some real competition on the island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well one thing is for certain, I am staying far away from this club. How is it even enjoyable? There has been so much silent drama. Have a great weekend at NLF.

Great kids, great families, great gear and great tournaments. Give it a try, you won’t regret it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe the word that should have been used there is surpasses 😂

Surpasses is a synonym of outpasses. They both mean the same. They borh can be used interchangeably.

Only an illiterate would use outpasses that way. The thesaurus is a dangerous thing when it is placed in the wrong hands. You are the prime example. Keep it simple, “See spot run”.

91 vs Chan coming up in the semis. Finals on ESPN tomorrow

10-3 Chan over 91. They are the best team hands down in age group. And that’s a fact!

Chan 2025 lost to Primetime a couple weeks ago, whats your excuse for that?

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Chan 2025 lost to Primetime a couple weeks ago, whats your excuse for that?

They are the best in the age group this season. Because I am of the belief success is often marked by wins over the course of a season, not an occasional loss. But hey, just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe the word that should have been used there is surpasses 😂

Surpasses is a synonym of outpasses. They both mean the same. They borh can be used interchangeably.

Only an illiterate would use outpasses that way. The thesaurus is a dangerous thing when it is placed in the wrong hands. You are the prime example. Keep it simple, “See spot run”.

You should keep it simple and stick to " see spot run".

Unfortanately you will continue to have difficulty grasping what the rest of us say due to your limited vocabulary.
Oh well.

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Chan 2025 lost to Primetime a couple weeks ago, whats your excuse for that?

They are the best in the age group this season. Because I am of the belief success is often marked by wins over the course of a season, not an occasional loss. But hey, just my opinion.

The Express team is a very strong team. Although winning where the majority of kids are not played, doesnt seem like a particularly satisfactory win for the majority of the kids on the team.

I find more interesting how much Express North has improved this year.
They gave Chan's team a real challenge in the Championship game.

There is no doubt that the 2 best teams were in the Championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Chan 2025 lost to Primetime a couple weeks ago, whats your excuse for that?

They are the best in the age group this season. Because I am of the belief success is often marked by wins over the course of a season, not an occasional loss. But hey, just my opinion.

The Express team is a very strong team. Although winning where the majority of kids are not played, doesnt seem like a particularly satisfactory win for the majority of the kids on the team.

I find more interesting how much Express North has improved this year.
They gave Chan's team a real challenge in the Championship game.

There is no doubt that the 2 best teams were in the Championship.

No doubt? The two best teams? You sure of that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Chan 2025 lost to Primetime a couple weeks ago, whats your excuse for that?

They are the best in the age group this season. Because I am of the belief success is often marked by wins over the course of a season, not an occasional loss. But hey, just my opinion.

The Express team is a very strong team. Although winning where the majority of kids are not played, doesnt seem like a particularly satisfactory win for the majority of the kids on the team.

I find more interesting how much Express North has improved this year.
They gave Chan's team a real challenge in the Championship game.

There is no doubt that the 2 best teams were in the Championship.

No doubt? The two best teams? You sure of that?

Yes I am.

Express North won all of their games prior to the Championship.
And thry only lost by 1 goal to Chan's team.

All other teams lost by a significant number of goals to Chan. Even 91 lost by 7 goals.

Clearly Express North coaches have done a fantastic job training their team this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Chan 2025 lost to Primetime a couple weeks ago, whats your excuse for that?

They are the best in the age group this season. Because I am of the belief success is often marked by wins over the course of a season, not an occasional loss. But hey, just my opinion.

The Express team is a very strong team. Although winning where the majority of kids are not played, doesnt seem like a particularly satisfactory win for the majority of the kids on the team.

I find more interesting how much Express North has improved this year.
They gave Chan's team a real challenge in the Championship game.

There is no doubt that the 2 best teams were in the Championship.

No doubt? The two best teams? You sure of that?

Yes I am.

Express North won all of their games prior to the Championship.
And thry only lost by 1 goal to Chan's team.

All other teams lost by a significant number of goals to Chan. Even 91 lost by 7 goals.

Clearly Express North coaches have done a fantastic job training their team this season.

Did you beat 91 or Express this year? Both teams beat you and each other this year. Didn’t 91 beat you twice? You are not 2nd best. Better luck next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Chan 2025 lost to Primetime a couple weeks ago, whats your excuse for that?

They are the best in the age group this season. Because I am of the belief success is often marked by wins over the course of a season, not an occasional loss. But hey, just my opinion.

The Express team is a very strong team. Although winning where the majority of kids are not played, doesnt seem like a particularly satisfactory win for the majority of the kids on the team.

I find more interesting how much Express North has improved this year.
They gave Chan's team a real challenge in the Championship game.

There is no doubt that the 2 best teams were in the Championship.

No doubt? The two best teams? You sure of that?

Yes I am.

Express North won all of their games prior to the Championship.
And thry only lost by 1 goal to Chan's team.

All other teams lost by a significant number of goals to Chan. Even 91 lost by 7 goals.

Clearly Express North coaches have done a fantastic job training their team this season.

Did you beat 91 or Express this year? Both teams beat you and each other this year. Didn’t 91 beat you twice? You are not 2nd best. Better luck next year.

Im not from Express North. So I am making an objective observation.

In fact, didnt you lose a game in the fall to Express North? Im pretty sure you did.

The fact is 91 wasnt even competitive against Chan's team in the NLF championship.
Express North clearly was.

Its really poor sportsmanship to constantly make excuses, as many of you seem to continually do.

It doesnt mean 91 is a bad team, but this tournament showed by the end of this season Express North is better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by LaxFacts

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Chan 2025 lost to Primetime a couple weeks ago, whats your excuse for that?

They are the best in the age group this season. Because I am of the belief success is often marked by wins over the course of a season, not an occasional loss. But hey, just my opinion.

The Express team is a very strong team. Although winning where the majority of kids are not played, doesnt seem like a particularly satisfactory win for the majority of the kids on the team.

I find more interesting how much Express North has improved this year.
They gave Chan's team a real challenge in the Championship game.

There is no doubt that the 2 best teams were in the Championship.

No doubt? The two best teams? You sure of that?

Yes I am.

Express North won all of their games prior to the Championship.
And thry only lost by 1 goal to Chan's team.

All other teams lost by a significant number of goals to Chan. Even 91 lost by 7 goals.

Clearly Express North coaches have done a fantastic job training their team this season.

Did you beat 91 or Express this year? Both teams beat you and each other this year. Didn’t 91 beat you twice? You are not 2nd best. Better luck next year.

Im not from Express North. So I am making an objective observation.

In fact, didnt you lose a game in the fall to Express North? Im pretty sure you did.

The fact is 91 wasnt even competitive against Chan's team in the NLF championship.
Express North clearly was.

Its really poor sportsmanship to constantly make excuses, as many of you seem to continually do.

It doesnt mean 91 is a bad team, but this tournament showed by the end of this season Express North is better.

No one counts fall ball. It is silly to do so. So silly, I won’t bother to enumerate why.

91 was completely embarrassed by Express. No denying that.

Now as to a competitive final, you people need to give Chan more credit. He’s by far the smarted coach in the age group. There is no money in blowing out Express North. It’s the opposite. By not crushing them, he positions them exactly as you said. The #2 team. More money for him. If you look at the record for the season, North hasn’t beaten 91. Close, but no cigar. Both are good teams. You have to acknowledge the Chan has a financial interest in making North appear competitive in the NLF.

In youth sports as in most things, follow to money to find the truth.

Anyone go to Legacy tryouts these last 2 days? Are the Geese cooled?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Express team is a very strong team. Although winning where the majority of kids are not played, doesnt seem like a particularly satisfactory win for the majority of the kids on the team.

I find more interesting how much Express North has improved this year.
They gave Chan's team a real challenge in the Championship game.

There is no doubt that the 2 best teams were in the Championship.

No doubt? The two best teams? You sure of that?

Yes I am.

Express North won all of their games prior to the Championship.
And thry only lost by 1 goal to Chan's team.

All other teams lost by a significant number of goals to Chan. Even 91 lost by 7 goals.

Clearly Express North coaches have done a fantastic job training their team this season.

Did you beat 91 or Express this year? Both teams beat you and each other this year. Didn’t 91 beat you twice? You are not 2nd best. Better luck next year.

Im not from Express North. So I am making an objective observation.

In fact, didnt you lose a game in the fall to Express North? Im pretty sure you did.

The fact is 91 wasnt even competitive against Chan's team in the NLF championship.
Express North clearly was.

Its really poor sportsmanship to constantly make excuses, as many of you seem to continually do.

It doesnt mean 91 is a bad team, but this tournament showed by the end of this season Express North is better.

No one counts fall ball. It is silly to do so. So silly, I won’t bother to enumerate why.

91 was completely embarrassed by Express. No denying that.

Now as to a competitive final, you people need to give Chan more credit. He’s by far the smarted coach in the age group. There is no money in blowing out Express North. It’s the opposite. By not crushing them, he positions them exactly as you said. The #2 team. More money for him. If you look at the record for the season, North hasn’t beaten 91. Close, but no cigar. Both are good teams. You have to acknowledge the Chan has a financial interest in making North appear competitive in the NLF.

In youth sports as in most things, follow to money to find the truth.

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Wow!
So your saying Chan fixed the game to be only 1 goal apart?

You are being delusional because you cant face another team at the end of the season is performing better than yours.

Everything is an excuse. What will destroy your team the most is the inability to acknowledge your weaknesses.

And your game against a really good team like Express should not be an embarassment.
Failure is an opportunity to learn and improve.

What is an embarassment is that you would term your kids losing to the top team as an embarassment.
Way to go shooting down the self esteem of your own kids. I mean thats disgusting.

You want to teach your kids not to be afraid of failure. And use it as a teaching moment.

You need to get a clue.
And if this is what your coaches are teaching your kids and in turn you are picking up as parents, then they should be ashamed also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone go to Legacy tryouts these last 2 days? Are the Geese cooled?

Cooled?????

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

Cooked....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

Delusional is the only word for you.

Chan is such a master puppeteer, that when he was 5 goals ahead
- he coached his kids to allow Express North to catch up
- better yet he instructed his kid to allow Express North to tie it up
- and he figured it would be even better for sales if Express North was winning more than half the way through the game, so he instructed his kids to allow that to happen
- only then did he change the pace of the game coaching his team to get 2 more goals this way they only won by 1 goal.

Wow! Chan seems to have some really magical abilities. And his kids are phenomenal if they can put on such an act, deviating from their normal playing ability to pull that off.

Based on your view of Chan, it seems it was probably a great marketing ploy to set it up so 91 won by one goal in that past tournament in order to do a big show and pummel you in this one. That really would show the ability of his team. That must be the case based on your reasoning.

Chan, if you are out there, do you know that 91 parents feel you have godlike abilities as a coach.
Build the temple.
They will come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

That may be the silliest thing I have ever read on BOTC. They were down 5-1 and came back and won. You really think that is orchestrated? Now you can read my opinion on how the clubs ranked at seasons end and call me silly.

*1 - Express - fall to summer was the most consistent
2 - 91 - moved forward and got things on track
3 - Igloo - definitely added and the team improved
*4 - Legacy - They’ll be fine and probably better off in the long run
*5 - S2S - definitely an up and comer and should continue to improve
6 - Force - lotsa talent with this group and well coached
7- TB - same as Force
*8- old Ducks- probably could be higher, but solid nonetheless
9 - Roar - yes, they are solid
10 - Empire - could be better, but not enough team practice time

* denotes club had 2nd team last year

Express is very good. Would have been nice to see them play the Hawks or Tribal from NJ. Does anyone know why both pulled out of NLF or were they asked not to come?

NLF did not have the top 2025 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

That may be the silliest thing I have ever read on BOTC. They were down 5-1 and came back and won. You really think that is orchestrated? Now you can read my opinion on how the clubs ranked at seasons end and call me silly.

*1 - Express - fall to summer was the most consistent
2 - 91 - moved forward and got things on track
3 - Igloo - definitely added and the team improved
*4 - Legacy - They’ll be fine and probably better off in the long run
*5 - S2S - definitely an up and comer and should continue to improve
6 - Force - lotsa talent with this group and well coached
7- TB - same as Force
*8- old Ducks- probably could be higher, but solid nonetheless
9 - Roar - yes, they are solid
10 - Empire - could be better, but not enough team practice time

* denotes club had 2nd team last year

Im assuming you are ranking long island teams. Otherwise Express North should be in the 2 spot.
I agree with most of it, but I think Li rebels will improve a lot now that it has seperated from Dynamic. And I think it will improve a lot better than Legacy.
It has multiple strong coaches. Should be 4. (Possible it could be more next year)
Legacy has Chris Fiore, but needs to invest more in giving Chris more qualified defense coaches and assistants. Not just dads. For now it would be 5.
Empire should not be on the list. It has difficulty with many B teams. Not even close.
If you want to put a 10 on list, then I would put the Knights. Solid team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

Delusional is the only word for you.

Chan is such a master puppeteer, that when he was 5 goals ahead
- he coached his kids to allow Express North to catch up
- better yet he instructed his kid to allow Express North to tie it up
- and he figured it would be even better for sales if Express North was winning more than half the way through the game, so he instructed his kids to allow that to happen
- only then did he change the pace of the game coaching his team to get 2 more goals this way they only won by 1 goal.

Wow! Chan seems to have some really magical abilities. And his kids are phenomenal if they can put on such an act, deviating from their normal playing ability to pull that off.

Based on your view of Chan, it seems it was probably a great marketing ploy to set it up so 91 won by one goal in that past tournament in order to do a big show and pummel you in this one. That really would show the ability of his team. That must be the case based on your reasoning.

Chan, if you are out there, do you know that 91 parents feel you have godlike abilities as a coach.
Build the temple.
They will come.

Who said anything about 91? Shows what you know. Very little. Like you have no clue that about how the world really works. But you go back to your little snowflake and tell him how he almost beat Express. Hah.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

That may be the silliest thing I have ever read on BOTC. They were down 5-1 and came back and won. You really think that is orchestrated? Now you can read my opinion on how the clubs ranked at seasons end and call me silly.

*1 - Express - fall to summer was the most consistent
2 - 91 - moved forward and got things on track
3 - Igloo - definitely added and the team improved
*4 - Legacy - They’ll be fine and probably better off in the long run
*5 - S2S - definitely an up and comer and should continue to improve
6 - Force - lotsa talent with this group and well coached
7- TB - same as Force
*8- old Ducks- probably could be higher, but solid nonetheless
9 - Roar - yes, they are solid
10 - Empire - could be better, but not enough team practice time

* denotes club had 2nd team last year

True Blue is 2-1 against force and 2-0 against shore 2 shore. They also went 3-2 while legacy went 1-3-1 in the Tri Star lax clash

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

That may be the silliest thing I have ever read on BOTC. They were down 5-1 and came back and won. You really think that is orchestrated? Now you can read my opinion on how the clubs ranked at seasons end and call me silly.

*1 - Express - fall to summer was the most consistent
2 - 91 - moved forward and got things on track
3 - Igloo - definitely added and the team improved
*4 - Legacy - They’ll be fine and probably better off in the long run
*5 - S2S - definitely an up and comer and should continue to improve
6 - Force - lotsa talent with this group and well coached
7- TB - same as Force
*8- old Ducks- probably could be higher, but solid nonetheless
9 - Roar - yes, they are solid
10 - Empire - could be better, but not enough team practice time

* denotes club had 2nd team last year

True Blue is 2-1 against force and 2-0 against shore 2 shore. They also went 3-2 while legacy went 1-3-1 in the Tri Star lax clash

I agree, TB should be 4 or 5. Force and Ducks are better than S2S.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

That may be the silliest thing I have ever read on BOTC. They were down 5-1 and came back and won. You really think that is orchestrated? Now you can read my opinion on how the clubs ranked at seasons end and call me silly.

*1 - Express - fall to summer was the most consistent
2 - 91 - moved forward and got things on track
3 - Igloo - definitely added and the team improved
*4 - Legacy - They’ll be fine and probably better off in the long run
*5 - S2S - definitely an up and comer and should continue to improve
6 - Force - lotsa talent with this group and well coached
7- TB - same as Force
*8- old Ducks- probably could be higher, but solid nonetheless
9 - Roar - yes, they are solid
10 - Empire - could be better, but not enough team practice time

* denotes club had 2nd team last year

True Blue is 2-1 against force and 2-0 against shore 2 shore. They also went 3-2 while legacy went 1-3-1 in the Tri Star lax clash

Fair enough. But 3 through 8 are all very good teams and all can beat one another, so ranking is probably wrong. . I think if those teams can retain and add a key pieces over the next two years, by 8th grade it will be some group of talent at the age. Point is no need to leave a susscessful team because they are not #1or # 2. Trust the process.

91 beat North in that fall Tournament Final
Chan wins first NLF
91 Beat North at TriStar (where North lost 3 games). 91 Beat Chan in OT going undefeated
Chan beats both 91 and North at NLF. Even though Express LI pounded 91, a loss is a loss.

Common thing here is North never pulled out any of the tournament wins that most folks would say are needed to jump over 91.

Have to objectively give 2nd to 91.

Hearing that S2S parents are nervous about tryouts next week. Expecting a huge turnout of good players from other programs that are dissatisfied with their kids run time. Could be a big thing for year 2 of their 2025 program.

Can we stop with the “I hear” and “a lot of talent at tryouts” nonsense. How about facts. The starters rarely leave top teams and if they do, they don’t need to tryout to make the team.

My point was that there is a lot of talent on certain teams that never see the field. If their parents are smart they find a team where their kid can get playing time in order to improve as a player. Inevitably this will displace other kids from less talented programs. What's the point if your kid is on a team that wins but they never see the field?

Better kids will land on decent teams. If the S2S A team kids don't make the cut, they prob didn't belong there in the first place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My point was that there is a lot of talent on certain teams that never see the field. If their parents are smart they find a team where their kid can get playing time in order to improve as a player. Inevitably this will displace other kids from less talented programs. What's the point if your kid is on a team that wins but they never see the field?

Thats a parents choice I guess.

Parents choice to waste your $ and do a disservice to your kid?

Yeah, but all the top teams will shorten to not play the bench. It’s become the standard. Drives me nuts and I will never understand it. Is the practice and training beneficial and with better kids good. No denying it. But not playing is a confidence killer, not work hard and you’ll get rewarded with playing time. Because that never comes. Imagine he whole world watching on the WSYL on ESPN and you text family to watch and your kid never plays...put yourself in your kids shoes... everyone please make good choices over the next few weeks. Ask questions, lotsa of questions and get them all answered or move on.

Too many money grabs out there. Prices out of control .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Too many money grabs out there. Prices out of control .

I agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, but all the top teams will shorten to not play the bench. It’s become the standard. Drives me nuts and I will never understand it. Is the practice and training beneficial and with better kids good. No denying it. But not playing is a confidence killer, not work hard and you’ll get rewarded with playing time. Because that never comes. Imagine he whole world watching on the WSYL on ESPN and you text family to watch and your kid never plays...put yourself in your kids shoes... everyone please make good choices over the next few weeks. Ask questions, lotsa of questions and get them all answered or move on.

100% agree. Its ridiculous to have your child go to practices and not get playing time in tournaments. It absolutely will destroy kids who eould otherwise grow into talented players if parents let that continue.
Its the antithesis of what youth sports is supposed to be about.

But I really believe this year there is going to be a shakeup. You saw it a little last year, but this year you will see much more.
Plenty of parents are walking away from these top teams, because there are many other options out there. Less and less parents are interested in their kid sitting on the bench, or being on teams where they overload the roster, or where teams show no commitment to their original roster and recruit kids mid season.

Rebels, LI rebels, True Blue, Igloo, Legacy, etc
are going to be taking these players and its going to change the level of lacrosse next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

Delusional is the only word for you.

Chan is such a master puppeteer, that when he was 5 goals ahead
- he coached his kids to allow Express North to catch up
- better yet he instructed his kid to allow Express North to tie it up
- and he figured it would be even better for sales if Express North was winning more than half the way through the game, so he instructed his kids to allow that to happen
- only then did he change the pace of the game coaching his team to get 2 more goals this way they only won by 1 goal.

Wow! Chan seems to have some really magical abilities. And his kids are phenomenal if they can put on such an act, deviating from their normal playing ability to pull that off.

Based on your view of Chan, it seems it was probably a great marketing ploy to set it up so 91 won by one goal in that past tournament in order to do a big show and pummel you in this one. That really would show the ability of his team. That must be the case based on your reasoning.

Chan, if you are out there, do you know that 91 parents feel you have godlike abilities as a coach.
Build the temple.
They will come.

Who said anything about 91? Shows what you know. Very little. Like you have no clue that about how the world really works. But you go back to your little snowflake and tell him how he almost beat Express. Hah.

Typical 91 parent. Having difficulty grasping, so just throws out insults.
If Express could manipulate the game, as you said, for the game with Express North. Then they could just as easily have done it with the one game they had against 91 to build up momentum.
If you are going to believe it in one situation, you cant rule out the other.

By the way, as I said, I dont have a kid on Express North. Folliw the conversation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, but all the top teams will shorten to not play the bench. It’s become the standard. Drives me nuts and I will never understand it. Is the practice and training beneficial and with better kids good. No denying it. But not playing is a confidence killer, not work hard and you’ll get rewarded with playing time. Because that never comes. Imagine he whole world watching on the WSYL on ESPN and you text family to watch and your kid never plays...put yourself in your kids shoes... everyone please make good choices over the next few weeks. Ask questions, lotsa of questions and get them all answered or move on.

100% agree. Its ridiculous to have your child go to practices and not get playing time in tournaments. It absolutely will destroy kids who eould otherwise grow into talented players if parents let that continue.
Its the antithesis of what youth sports is supposed to be about.

But I really believe this year there is going to be a shakeup. You saw it a little last year, but this year you will see much more.
Plenty of parents are walking away from these top teams, because there are many other options out there. Less and less parents are interested in their kid sitting on the bench, or being on teams where they overload the roster, or where teams show no commitment to their original roster and recruit kids mid season.

Rebels, LI rebels, True Blue, Igloo, Legacy, etc
are going to be taking these players and its going to change the level of lacrosse next year.

And its a great opportunity for the top clubs (Express, Igloo & 91) to build solid 2nd teams. 91 and Igloo didn't even have one.

Moderators:

There is a glitch in the forum program that whenever someo types R. U. S. H. It cganges it to Rebels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 beat North in that fall Tournament Final
Chan wins first NLF
91 Beat North at TriStar (where North lost 3 games). 91 Beat Chan in OT going undefeated
Chan beats both 91 and North at NLF. Even though Express LI pounded 91, a loss is a loss.

Common thing here is North never pulled out any of the tournament wins that most folks would say are needed to jump over 91.

Have to objectively give 2nd to 91.

How can 91 even claim the fall tournament as a valid championship win.
You played 2 games against Express North and you lost one, and won one. If the games had been flipped then Express North would gave won the championship.

Also normally if 2 teams end up with 2 games back to back where the second us championship game, they generally agree to play just one and let that be the championship game.
If that had happened, Express North would have won the championship.

Certainly not a real win for 91 in anyone elses eyes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, but all the top teams will shorten to not play the bench. It’s become the standard. Drives me nuts and I will never understand it. Is the practice and training beneficial and with better kids good. No denying it. But not playing is a confidence killer, not work hard and you’ll get rewarded with playing time. Because that never comes. Imagine he whole world watching on the WSYL on ESPN and you text family to watch and your kid never plays...put yourself in your kids shoes... everyone please make good choices over the next few weeks. Ask questions, lotsa of questions and get them all answered or move on.

100% agree. Its ridiculous to have your child go to practices and not get playing time in tournaments. It absolutely will destroy kids who eould otherwise grow into talented players if parents let that continue.
Its the antithesis of what youth sports is supposed to be about.

But I really believe this year there is going to be a shakeup. You saw it a little last year, but this year you will see much more.
Plenty of parents are walking away from these top teams, because there are many other options out there. Less and less parents are interested in their kid sitting on the bench, or being on teams where they overload the roster, or where teams show no commitment to their original roster and recruit kids mid season.

Rebels, LI rebels, True Blue, Igloo, Legacy, etc
are going to be taking these players and its going to change the level of lacrosse next year.

And its a great opportunity for the top clubs (Express, Igloo & 91) to build solid 2nd teams. 91 and Igloo didn't even have one.

The thing is people who leave these top teams, are not interested in second teams that play at less competitive tournaments or at a less competitive level. They are going to go to a different team that also competes in the high level tournaments.

And people dont believe in these second teams in the big organisations anymore.
Legacy is the only one who fielded a decent one in the Blue Devils. And I think thats because Legacy doesnt have a history of overloading there teams and adding players mid season like Express and 91 do. So Legacy allows there second team to have an opportunity of recruiting decent players at their tryouts.

And I believe people feel with 91 and Express that these second teams are just money grabs, and those organisations dont really care about them. All they care about is their top A level team.

That is what the Rebels is pulling from. They are attracting a lot of people partially because they are promising only one team at each age level.

So no I dont think you will see most people who leave the top teams go to second teams in the top organisations. As time goes on its going to become more and more difficult for those organisations to field a 2nd team. There are much better options going to a competitive team elsewhere like Igloo, r.u.s.h., rebels, true blue, s2s, etc

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, but all the top teams will shorten to not play the bench. It’s become the standard. Drives me nuts and I will never understand it. Is the practice and training beneficial and with better kids good. No denying it. But not playing is a confidence killer, not work hard and you’ll get rewarded with playing time. Because that never comes. Imagine he whole world watching on the WSYL on ESPN and you text family to watch and your kid never plays...put yourself in your kids shoes... everyone please make good choices over the next few weeks. Ask questions, lotsa of questions and get them all answered or move on.

100% agree. Its ridiculous to have your child go to practices and not get playing time in tournaments. It absolutely will destroy kids who eould otherwise grow into talented players if parents let that continue.
Its the antithesis of what youth sports is supposed to be about.

But I really believe this year there is going to be a shakeup. You saw it a little last year, but this year you will see much more.
Plenty of parents are walking away from these top teams, because there are many other options out there. Less and less parents are interested in their kid sitting on the bench, or being on teams where they overload the roster, or where teams show no commitment to their original roster and recruit kids mid season.

Rebels, LI rebels, True Blue, Igloo, Legacy, etc
are going to be taking these players and its going to change the level of lacrosse next year.

And its a great opportunity for the top clubs (Express, Igloo & 91) to build solid 2nd teams. 91 and Igloo didn't even have one.

The thing is people who leave these top teams, are not interested in second teams that play at less competitive tournaments or at a less competitive level. They are going to go to a different team that also competes in the high level tournaments.

And people dont believe in these second teams in the big organisations anymore.
Legacy is the only one who fielded a decent one in the Blue Devils. And I think thats because Legacy doesnt have a history of overloading there teams and adding players mid season like Express and 91 do. So Legacy allows there second team to have an opportunity of recruiting decent players at their tryouts.

And I believe people feel with 91 and Express that these second teams are just money grabs, and those organisations dont really care about them. All they care about is their top A level team.

That is what the Rebels is pulling from. They are attracting a lot of people partially because they are promising only one team at each age level.

So no I dont think you will see most people who leave the top teams go to second teams in the top organisations. As time goes on its going to become more and more difficult for those organisations to field a 2nd team. There are much better options going to a competitive team elsewhere like Igloo, r.u.s.h., rebels, true blue, s2s, etc

It’s hard to debate, but I wish the top clubs would focus on second team development. They would improve their product and brand if 2nd teams got 1st team treatment, in my humble opinion. Igloo at the 2022 level and 91 at the 2023 level have really done it successfully. That said, I think a it has to do with the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

True Blue $1950

Express was $3800

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

what team is R.U.S.H?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

Is that accurate ? Leagacy in 2015 was $2200 and last year got 1 short 1 jersey , gloves , helmet . That’s it . Money grab poor product.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 beat North in that fall Tournament Final
Chan wins first NLF
91 Beat North at TriStar (where North lost 3 games). 91 Beat Chan in OT going undefeated
Chan beats both 91 and North at NLF. Even though Express LI pounded 91, a loss is a loss.

Common thing here is North never pulled out any of the tournament wins that most folks would say are needed to jump over 91.

Have to objectively give 2nd to 91.

How can 91 even claim the fall tournament as a valid championship win.
You played 2 games against Express North and you lost one, and won one. If the games had been flipped then Express North would gave won the championship.

Also normally if 2 teams end up with 2 games back to back where the second us championship game, they generally agree to play just one and let that be the championship game.
If that had happened, Express North would have won the championship.

Certainly not a real win for 91 in anyone elses eyes.

Your fighting over 2nd place on LI when you only have 3 good teams.

1. Express
2. Hawks
3. Tribal

After that Express North, 91, HHH, Cannons, Rising Sons, Mad Lax & Mad Dog in any order.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents choice to waste your $ and do a disservice to your kid?

Still their choice. I'm not advocating any direction. Parents have to weigh the pro's and con's of each option. It's all relative. Why does anyone else care? Show up, tryout and let the chips fall where they may. If you are not happy, do your research and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

Express $5k? With travel etc? My son is on a hs team there and it was 2800 for fall and summer. Winter training was a few hundred more if you could make

Heard 91 evel camp was a disappointment. Undermanned with not much evaluation actually happening.
They may have bit off more than they could chew making this a camp where all teams are there at same time, instead of normal tryout like prior years with time slots for individual grades.
Camps require a lot more man power.

Anyone attend that has further insight?

Rebels is a no brainer for what they are offering on the dollar. So far they’ve come through on every level. Over 40 kids here, lots of Ducks, Geese and 91 helmets out there. Energy is through the roof, kids haven’t stopped moving, lots of instruction.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 beat North in that fall Tournament Final
Chan wins first NLF
91 Beat North at TriStar (where North lost 3 games). 91 Beat Chan in OT going undefeated
Chan beats both 91 and North at NLF. Even though Express LI pounded 91, a loss is a loss.

Common thing here is North never pulled out any of the tournament wins that most folks would say are needed to jump over 91.

Have to objectively give 2nd to 91.

How can 91 even claim the fall tournament as a valid championship win.
You played 2 games against Express North and you lost one, and won one. If the games had been flipped then Express North would gave won the championship.

Also normally if 2 teams end up with 2 games back to back where the second us championship game, they generally agree to play just one and let that be the championship game.
If that had happened, Express North would have won the championship.

Certainly not a real win for 91 in anyone elses eyes.

This one I love, they are all real wins.

But facts are that 91 asked for only one game. Express North said no, they want to play both. 91 played the full roster game one and got beat by a late goal. In the Championship, 91 controlled the game and won. OK then, that doesn't help your fantasy so throw it out.

In the spring and summer 91 beat both Express teams but lost the spring NLF and the final NLF badly to LIE. So LIE gets 1st, no doubt.

What makes you decide that North gets second when they lost head to head to 91 and never beat the LIE team.
Most important North has a head to head loss to 91 and no wins over LIE. Can't give 2nd to North, just can't. So 91 is 2nd.

North gets to try again next year, it starts in a week!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels is a no brainer for what they are offering on the dollar. So far they’ve come through on every level. Over 40 kids here, lots of Ducks, Geese and 91 helmets out there. Energy is through the roof, kids haven’t stopped moving, lots of instruction.....

I agree and disagree.
You may have been watching the 2026 rebels eval. They did have around 45 kids. With lots of different helmets.
But 2025 had half that amount. But they did have 91 and Geese helmets there. Would say you will see more at regular tryout dates in August for Rebels.

Kids that were there did show talent and athleticism.
And it was really organised well, had plenty of coaches, lots of interactive coaching, and was an impressive tryout. Was a great workout for the kids. Could defenitely see the potential here.

Will be really interesting to see what happens at the rest of the tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

what team is R.U.S.H?

The old Ducks. Coaches broke away from Dynamic lacrosse.
Have to put periods after every letter because a glitch on this forum keeps changing the word to rebels whenever you type it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was $3800

That was last year.
We are asking about tuition amounts this year.
2024 Express was told new tuition amount was $5000.
So 2025 could not be much different from that.

Has anyone on Express been told what the new tuition rate is for 2025?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

Is that accurate ? Leagacy in 2015 was $2200 and last year got 1 short 1 jersey , gloves , helmet . That’s it . Money grab poor product.

Its accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets talk tuition:
Igloo - $3200
Rebels - $2600
Legacy - $2975 ($2875 if pay in full)
R.u.s.h. - $2295
Express - not sure for 2025 year, but 2024 year is $5000

Anyone else have tuitions on other teams?

Express $5k? With travel etc? My son is on a hs team there and it was 2800 for fall and summer. Winter training was a few hundred more if you could make

You cant compare Express high school level team cost to express youth team costs.
Completely different package.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 beat North in that fall Tournament Final
Chan wins first NLF
91 Beat North at TriStar (where North lost 3 games). 91 Beat Chan in OT going undefeated
Chan beats both 91 and North at NLF. Even though Express LI pounded 91, a loss is a loss.

Common thing here is North never pulled out any of the tournament wins that most folks would say are needed to jump over 91.

Have to objectively give 2nd to 91.

How can 91 even claim the fall tournament as a valid championship win.
You played 2 games against Express North and you lost one, and won one. If the games had been flipped then Express North would gave won the championship.

Also normally if 2 teams end up with 2 games back to back where the second us championship game, they generally agree to play just one and let that be the championship game.
If that had happened, Express North would have won the championship.

Certainly not a real win for 91 in anyone elses eyes.

This one I love, they are all real wins.

But facts are that 91 asked for only one game. Express North said no, they want to play both. 91 played the full roster game one and got beat by a late goal. In the Championship, 91 controlled the game and won. OK then, that doesn't help your fantasy so throw it out.

In the spring and summer 91 beat both Express teams but lost the spring NLF and the final NLF badly to LIE. So LIE gets 1st, no doubt.

What makes you decide that North gets second when they lost head to head to 91 and never beat the LIE team.
Most important North has a head to head loss to 91 and no wins over LIE. Can't give 2nd to North, just can't. So 91 is 2nd.

North gets to try again next year, it starts in a week!

So tired of hearing you talk.
Time to move on.
The more you talk, the more foolish you look.
And the less anyone wants to be part of the 91 team and its crazy parent mentality.
Your only hurting your own reputation.
If we send you a tshirt will that pacify you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels is a no brainer for what they are offering on the dollar. So far they’ve come through on every level. Over 40 kids here, lots of Ducks, Geese and 91 helmets out there. Energy is through the roof, kids haven’t stopped moving, lots of instruction.....

I agree and disagree.
You may have been watching the 2026 rebels eval. They did have around 45 kids. With lots of different helmets.
But 2025 had half that amount. But they did have 91 and Geese helmets there. Would say you will see more at regular tryout dates in August for Rebels.

Kids that were there did show talent and athleticism.
And it was really organised well, had plenty of coaches, lots of interactive coaching, and was an impressive tryout. Was a great workout for the kids. Could defenitely see the potential here.

Will be really interesting to see what happens at the rest of the tryouts.

Correction:
Not 2026. Meant to write 2024.

I thought East Coast Elite was the new Ducks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought East Coast Elite was the new Ducks.

Lol
Thats Dynamic Lacrosse rebranding when all the Ducks coaches walked away and formed R.U.S.H.
But the team names are staying with R.U.S.H. who have the Chaos and Rage names.

Dynamic is struggling to make East Coast Elite by offering a super cheap tryout fee of $45.
But charging more for tuition at $2495-
Yet saying not doing any tournaments off Long Island.
I guess if you are a parent who wants a PAL tournament lacrosse team, then East Coast Elite may be for you.

But for the rest, R.U.S.H., Rebels, Igloo, etc... are real teams.

Looks like your first line kid is about to become second line

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like your first line kid is about to become second line

??????

there were 18 kids today for 2025 Rebel’s

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 beat North in that fall Tournament Final
Chan wins first NLF
91 Beat North at TriStar (where North lost 3 games). 91 Beat Chan in OT going undefeated
Chan beats both 91 and North at NLF. Even though Express LI pounded 91, a loss is a loss.

Common thing here is North never pulled out any of the tournament wins that most folks would say are needed to jump over 91.

Have to objectively give 2nd to 91.

How can 91 even claim the fall tournament as a valid championship win.
You played 2 games against Express North and you lost one, and won one. If the games had been flipped then Express North would gave won the championship.

Also normally if 2 teams end up with 2 games back to back where the second us championship game, they generally agree to play just one and let that be the championship game.
If that had happened, Express North would have won the championship.

Certainly not a real win for 91 in anyone elses eyes.

This one I love, they are all real wins.

But facts are that 91 asked for only one game. Express North said no, they want to play both. 91 played the full roster game one and got beat by a late goal. In the Championship, 91 controlled the game and won. OK then, that doesn't help your fantasy so throw it out.

In the spring and summer 91 beat both Express teams but lost the spring NLF and the final NLF badly to LIE. So LIE gets 1st, no doubt.

What makes you decide that North gets second when they lost head to head to 91 and never beat the LIE team.
Most important North has a head to head loss to 91 and no wins over LIE. Can't give 2nd to North, just can't. So 91 is 2nd.

North gets to try again next year, it starts in a week!

So tired of hearing you talk.
Time to move on.
The more you talk, the more foolish you look.
And the less anyone wants to be part of the 91 team and its crazy parent mentality.
Your only hurting your own reputation.
If we send you a tshirt will that pacify you?

First, I thought you were trying to push your son's Express North team. Then, when I realized you didn't have a kid on Express North and I thought you were dense and unable to comprehend facts.

But now, now I see the truth. You are a troll. Just a lowly forums troll with nothing better to do and an axe to grind. Good job troll. I'll admit it, for a while you had me fooled. Now go back to playing with your Legos.

How is rebels real 1st year ?

Any thoughts on the turtles tryout and program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 beat North in that fall Tournament Final
Chan wins first NLF
91 Beat North at TriStar (where North lost 3 games). 91 Beat Chan in OT going undefeated
Chan beats both 91 and North at NLF. Even though Express LI pounded 91, a loss is a loss.

Common thing here is North never pulled out any of the tournament wins that most folks would say are needed to jump over 91.

Have to objectively give 2nd to 91.

How can 91 even claim the fall tournament as a valid championship win.
You played 2 games against Express North and you lost one, and won one. If the games had been flipped then Express North would gave won the championship.

Also normally if 2 teams end up with 2 games back to back where the second us championship game, they generally agree to play just one and let that be the championship game.
If that had happened, Express North would have won the championship.

Certainly not a real win for 91 in anyone elses eyes.

This one I love, they are all real wins.

But facts are that 91 asked for only one game. Express North said no, they want to play both. 91 played the full roster game one and got beat by a late goal. In the Championship, 91 controlled the game and won. OK then, that doesn't help your fantasy so throw it out.

In the spring and summer 91 beat both Express teams but lost the spring NLF and the final NLF badly to LIE. So LIE gets 1st, no doubt.

What makes you decide that North gets second when they lost head to head to 91 and never beat the LIE team.
Most important North has a head to head loss to 91 and no wins over LIE. Can't give 2nd to North, just can't. So 91 is 2nd.

North gets to try again next year, it starts in a week!

So tired of hearing you talk.
Time to move on.
The more you talk, the more foolish you look.
And the less anyone wants to be part of the 91 team and its crazy parent mentality.
Your only hurting your own reputation.
If we send you a tshirt will that pacify you?

First, I thought you were trying to push your son's Express North team. Then, when I realized you didn't have a kid on Express North and I thought you were dense and unable to comprehend facts.

But now, now I see the truth. You are a troll. Just a lowly forums troll with nothing better to do and an axe to grind. Good job troll. I'll admit it, for a while you had me fooled. Now go back to playing with your Legos.

Here we go. 91 parent making more excuses. Everyones a troll when they disagree with them.

I have a kid who plays competitive club lacrosse, just not on Express North. But that doesnt mean I cant objectively analyse the strength of another team.

The problem is not that you disagree, but that you think its so insulting for people to view the situation differently. Or that another team could have outperformed you.

Whether or not you beat them in a spring tournament, by the end of the season they performed significantly better than you in the final championship tournament against Express. Showing they have improved beyond you since you last played them.

It is the NLF "Club Championship" and like any sport the winner takes home the final title. And Express North is the runner up or 2nd place. Not 91.
Like last year when it was Mad Dog who took the runner up position in the Championship game. Not 91.

Now you could just say there are different ways of viewing the lacrosse season and just agree to disagree. But instead your like a child who can not see any other perspective and who is intimidated by the thought of not being on top.

Win or lose, just enjoy the game of lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is rebels real 1st year ?

What does that mean????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought East Coast Elite was the new Ducks.

Lol
Thats Dynamic Lacrosse rebranding when all the Ducks coaches walked away and formed R.U.S.H.
But the team names are staying with R.U.S.H. who have the Chaos and Rage names.

Dynamic is struggling to make East Coast Elite by offering a super cheap tryout fee of $45.
But charging more for tuition at $2495-
Yet saying not doing any tournaments off Long Island.
I guess if you are a parent who wants a PAL tournament lacrosse team, then East Coast Elite may be for you.

But for the rest, R.U.S.H., Rebels, Igloo, etc... are real teams.

How are the Rebels a real team at this point? They have no team yet. They are just starting out and I wish them all the success. They are doing a decent job with the camp and communications, etc. But you have to develop and build the team over a minimum of 2 seasons. Look at Legacy and the Ducks, both kicked off with a lot buzz and excitement and have some very good teams, but it took 2 and 3 seasons to get there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents choice to waste your $ and do a disservice to your kid?

Still their choice. I'm not advocating any direction. Parents have to weigh the pro's and con's of each option. It's all relative. Why does anyone else care? Show up, tryout and let the chips fall where they may. If you are not happy, do your research and move on.

Geese parents weighed their options and went elsewhere. Amazing how in one summer season one daddy coach was able to take down last years top team on Long Islad.

Any thoughts on the turtles tryouts/ program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents choice to waste your $ and do a disservice to your kid?

Still their choice. I'm not advocating any direction. Parents have to weigh the pro's and con's of each option. It's all relative. Why does anyone else care? Show up, tryout and let the chips fall where they may. If you are not happy, do your research and move on.

Geese parents weighed their options and went elsewhere. Amazing how in one summer season one daddy coach was able to take down last years top team on Long Islad.

That coming from a 91 parent. Only 91 parents are trashing coaches. And then they poison people outside the team. Which is what happened with the Geese kids who left.
91 parents hate the Geese assistant coach
91 parents hate the Ducks coach
91 parents hate the S2S coach.
Even Joe Spallina saw them as toxic and left mid season.

See the pattern. Its not the coaches. Its the toxic 91 parents. The core group of them anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought East Coast Elite was the new Ducks.

Lol
Thats Dynamic Lacrosse rebranding when all the Ducks coaches walked away and formed R.U.S.H.
But the team names are staying with R.U.S.H. who have the Chaos and Rage names.

Dynamic is struggling to make East Coast Elite by offering a super cheap tryout fee of $45.
But charging more for tuition at $2495-
Yet saying not doing any tournaments off Long Island.
I guess if you are a parent who wants a PAL tournament lacrosse team, then East Coast Elite may be for you.

But for the rest, R.U.S.H., Rebels, Igloo, etc... are real teams.

How are the Rebels a real team at this point? They have no team yet. They are just starting out and I wish them all the success. They are doing a decent job with the camp and communications, etc. But you have to develop and build the team over a minimum of 2 seasons. Look at Legacy and the Ducks, both kicked off with a lot buzz and excitement and have some very good teams, but it took 2 and 3 seasons to get there.

I do agree that it will take a season to develop. And thats mainly to let the kids on the team get a feel for playing together.
But this organisation is off the a great start with their communication, great lineup of coaches, and really interactive well manned tryouts.
Plus they have a dedicated person for player developmemt and will be do evaluations of players during the season. If thay happens, I think you will see rapid improvement in this team.
Of course, there is no guarantees. But the initial supplemental camp showed real promise. The tryouts will hopefully show even more.

Let's simplify it for the troll hater.

LIE is the best local 2025 Team. Congratulations!

Did LI Express lose to North? NO

Did LI Express lose to 91? YES

Did Express North lose to 91 the last two times they played? YES

Is Express North the next best team in the area? NO

91 is, and you know it.

So

Keep trying 91 hater. See you in the Fall.

And 91 posts its tournaments, so you can tell your organization to make sure to schedule them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's simplify it for the troll hater.

LIE is the best local 2025 Team. Congratulations!

Did LI Express lose to North? NO

Did LI Express lose to 91? YES

Did Express North lose to 91 the last two times they played? YES

Is Express North the next best team in the area? NO

91 is, and you know it.

So

Keep trying 91 hater. See you in the Fall.

And 91 posts its tournaments, so you can tell your organization to make sure to schedule them.

Saying it doesnt make it so.
So angry. How sad.
By the way, arent you the troll hater? Or do you love them?

Im not a hater though. Im a lover. Of most people anyway.
Have a great rest of the summer.
If you happen to be at my kids tournanents next year, I will see you there.
Meanwhile, try to enjoy lacrosse. Dont get so hung up on the rankings.
I think your developing wrinkles.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My point was that there is a lot of talent on certain teams that never see the field. If their parents are smart they find a team where their kid can get playing time in order to improve as a player. Inevitably this will displace other kids from less talented programs. What's the point if your kid is on a team that wins but they never see the field?

Agree. Too many people are hung up on the name brand. With better teams carrying up to 24 players the weaker players never see the field if a game is tight. They'll ask them all to travel and be ready to play but the reality is the starters will gobble up the majority of playing time. Its a tough thing to ask of kids that aren't in 8th grade yet. Find a decent program with quality coaches who have NO kids on the team. No matter how many speeches they give about fair and equal playing time for effort, the coaches kid will always play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My point was that there is a lot of talent on certain teams that never see the field. If their parents are smart they find a team where their kid can get playing time in order to improve as a player. Inevitably this will displace other kids from less talented programs. What's the point if your kid is on a team that wins but they never see the field?

Agree. Too many people are hung up on the name brand. With better teams carrying up to 24 players the weaker players never see the field if a game is tight. They'll ask them all to travel and be ready to play but the reality is the starters will gobble up the majority of playing time. Its a tough thing to ask of kids that aren't in 8th grade yet. Find a decent program with quality coaches who have NO kids on the team. No matter how many speeches they give about fair and equal playing time for effort, the coaches kid will always play.

Just look at geese.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is exactly what I'm saying. Chan fixed the game. Express North has no chance of beating him. None. Zero. Do I have to spell it out for you?

N O N E

Z E R O C H A N C E

If it's a close game, it's because Chan wants it to be. Express North isn't even on the same planet as Express Chan. The kids are better players, they're more polished, better practiced and better coached. If you think Express North is almost as good as Express Chan, you are believing exactly what Chan wants you to believe. Now, cut the check and pay up.

That may be the silliest thing I have ever read on BOTC. They were down 5-1 and came back and won. You really think that is orchestrated? Now you can read my opinion on how the clubs ranked at seasons end and call me silly.

*1 - Express - fall to summer was the most consistent
2 - 91 - moved forward and got things on track
3 - Igloo - definitely added and the team improved
*4 - Legacy - They’ll be fine and probably better off in the long run
*5 - S2S - definitely an up and comer and should continue to improve
6 - Force - lotsa talent with this group and well coached
7- TB - same as Force
*8- old Ducks- probably could be higher, but solid nonetheless
9 - Roar - yes, they are solid
10 - Empire - could be better, but not enough team practice time

* denotes club had 2nd team last year

True Blue is 2-1 against force and 2-0 against shore 2 shore. They also went 3-2 while legacy went 1-3-1 in the Tri Star lax clash

Fair enough. But 3 through 8 are all very good teams and all can beat one another, so ranking is probably wrong. . I think if those teams can retain and add a key pieces over the next two years, by 8th grade it will be some group of talent at the age. Point is no need to leave a susscessful team because they are not #1or # 2. Trust the process.

Unless your kid is boyz with coaches Dad kids stay away from #3. They'll string you along while you watch from the sidelines. Angry yes. Daddy ball yes and worse. Won't make that mistake again. Buyer beware. Don't worry they are not successful and not #1 or #2. They will HAVE to add since half of us not returning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents choice to waste your $ and do a disservice to your kid?

Still their choice. I'm not advocating any direction. Parents have to weigh the pro's and con's of each option. It's all relative. Why does anyone else care? Show up, tryout and let the chips fall where they may. If you are not happy, do your research and move on.

Geese parents weighed their options and went elsewhere. Amazing how in one summer season one daddy coach was able to take down last years top team on Long Islad.

That coming from a 91 parent. Only 91 parents are trashing coaches. And then they poison people outside the team. Which is what happened with the Geese kids who left.
91 parents hate the Geese assistant coach
91 parents hate the Ducks coach
91 parents hate the S2S coach.
Even Joe Spallina saw them as toxic and left mid season.

See the pattern. Its not the coaches. Its the toxic 91 parents. The core group of them anyway.

Here is the pattern hater.

Geese Coach put his kid first when he wasn't good enough, so it is easy to dislike him.
Ducks Coach put his kid and himself first, ditto
S2S Coach put his kid and himself first, 3 for 3.
Joe Spallina left when his daughter decided she didn't like the boys game (good for her).

Current Head Coaches do not have kids on the team.
Current Coaches have brought their 2018 youth/HS teams to the top (as evidenced by their Commitments).

See the pattern? Daddy ball bad. Merit based play good.

This team has a good environment and too bad for you, your little Rabil missed tryouts.
But 70 really good kids did show and the team will be even better!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My point was that there is a lot of talent on certain teams that never see the field. If their parents are smart they find a team where their kid can get playing time in order to improve as a player. Inevitably this will displace other kids from less talented programs. What's the point if your kid is on a team that wins but they never see the field?

Agree. Too many people are hung up on the name brand. With better teams carrying up to 24 players the weaker players never see the field if a game is tight. They'll ask them all to travel and be ready to play but the reality is the starters will gobble up the majority of playing time. Its a tough thing to ask of kids that aren't in 8th grade yet. Find a decent program with quality coaches who have NO kids on the team. No matter how many speeches they give about fair and equal playing time for effort, the coaches kid will always play.

Agreed. And moreover, the coach's style and actions will be informed by that of his kid. If the coach's kid is undisciplined and immature, he will let all kids who wish to do so misbehave and not discipline anyone. If the coaches kid is a quiet listener who always follows the rules, he will be very strict and unbending with kids who have trouble behaiving. If the coach's kid is a slasher who commits penalties, than he won't care if anyone commits penalties. So, if you must have your kid on a daddy-coached team, it works best when your kid has a lot in common with the coaches kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents choice to waste your $ and do a disservice to your kid?

Still their choice. I'm not advocating any direction. Parents have to weigh the pro's and con's of each option. It's all relative. Why does anyone else care? Show up, tryout and let the chips fall where they may. If you are not happy, do your research and move on.

Geese parents weighed their options and went elsewhere. Amazing how in one summer season one daddy coach was able to take down last years top team on Long Islad.

That coming from a 91 parent. Only 91 parents are trashing coaches. And then they poison people outside the team. Which is what happened with the Geese kids who left.
91 parents hate the Geese assistant coach
91 parents hate the Ducks coach
91 parents hate the S2S coach.
Even Joe Spallina saw them as toxic and left mid season.

See the pattern. Its not the coaches. Its the toxic 91 parents. The core group of them anyway.

Here is the pattern hater.

Geese Coach put his kid first when he wasn't good enough, so it is easy to dislike him.
Ducks Coach put his kid and himself first, ditto
S2S Coach put his kid and himself first, 3 for 3.
Joe Spallina left when his daughter decided she didn't like the boys game (good for her).

Current Head Coaches do not have kids on the team.
Current Coaches have brought their 2018 youth/HS teams to the top (as evidenced by their Commitments).

See the pattern? Daddy ball bad. Merit based play good.

This team has a good environment and too bad for you, your little Rabil missed tryouts.
But 70 really good kids did show and the team will be even better!

You just laid out a clear pattern acknowledging everything I said about 91 parents hating coaches.
Interesting how so many of those coaches moved away from 91 and have no issues and are successful.

And 91 has daddy coaches too. One good, one bad. And the rumor is your losing the good one.

Pretty sucky environment if you ask me.
But good luck to you.
There was no way my kid was bothering with an organisation like yours.

Do you notice the anger and hate on this forum is only from 91 parents?
You dont see it from Express parents. They are pretty chill on this forum.
Tells you a lot about the environment on teams.
Just saying.

Bye angry hater.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents choice to waste your $ and do a disservice to your kid?

Still their choice. I'm not advocating any direction. Parents have to weigh the pro's and con's of each option. It's all relative. Why does anyone else care? Show up, tryout and let the chips fall where they may. If you are not happy, do your research and move on.

Geese parents weighed their options and went elsewhere. Amazing how in one summer season one daddy coach was able to take down last years top team on Long Islad.

That coming from a 91 parent. Only 91 parents are trashing coaches. And then they poison people outside the team. Which is what happened with the Geese kids who left.
91 parents hate the Geese assistant coach
91 parents hate the Ducks coach
91 parents hate the S2S coach.
Even Joe Spallina saw them as toxic and left mid season.

See the pattern. Its not the coaches. Its the toxic 91 parents. The core group of them anyway.

Here is the pattern hater.

Geese Coach put his kid first when he wasn't good enough, so it is easy to dislike him.
Ducks Coach put his kid and himself first, ditto
S2S Coach put his kid and himself first, 3 for 3.
Joe Spallina left when his daughter decided she didn't like the boys game (good for her).

Current Head Coaches do not have kids on the team.
Current Coaches have brought their 2018 youth/HS teams to the top (as evidenced by their Commitments).

See the pattern? Daddy ball bad. Merit based play good.

This team has a good environment and too bad for you, your little Rabil missed tryouts.
But 70 really good kids did show and the team will be even better!

You just laid out a clear pattern acknowledging everything I said about 91 parents hating coaches.
Interesting how so many of those coaches moved away from 91 and have no issues and are successful.

And 91 has daddy coaches too. One good, one bad. And the rumor is your losing the good one.

Pretty sucky environment if you ask me.
But good luck to you.
There was no way my kid was bothering with an organisation like yours.

Do you notice the anger and hate on this forum is only from 91 parents?
You dont see it from Express parents. They are pretty chill on this forum.
Tells you a lot about the environment on teams.
Just saying.

Bye angry hater.

I hear you! My son played for 91 and was treated as a second class citizen. If your not tight with JS and the gang you're in for a rough ride. You will see the favorites make mistake after mistake and stay on the field. When your son makes one, he will be pulled. We got wise to the nonsense real quick and made a move. My son flourished when he left and felt valued, and went on to become a higher level recruit than most of his former teammates. Do what feels right, don't get caught up in the name!

Can anyone advise on how the playing time is on Igloo, S2S or FL$ 2023 teams.

Any bad experiences on Igloo, S2S or FL$.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Geese parents weighed their options and went elsewhere. Amazing how in one summer season one daddy coach was able to take down last years top team on Long Islad.

That coming from a 91 parent. Only 91 parents are trashing coaches. And then they poison people outside the team. Which is what happened with the Geese kids who left.
91 parents hate the Geese assistant coach
91 parents hate the Ducks coach
91 parents hate the S2S coach.
Even Joe Spallina saw them as toxic and left mid season.

See the pattern. Its not the coaches. Its the toxic 91 parents. The core group of them anyway.

Here is the pattern hater.

Geese Coach put his kid first when he wasn't good enough, so it is easy to dislike him.
Ducks Coach put his kid and himself first, ditto
S2S Coach put his kid and himself first, 3 for 3.
Joe Spallina left when his daughter decided she didn't like the boys game (good for her).

Current Head Coaches do not have kids on the team.
Current Coaches have brought their 2018 youth/HS teams to the top (as evidenced by their Commitments).

See the pattern? Daddy ball bad. Merit based play good.

This team has a good environment and too bad for you, your little Rabil missed tryouts.
But 70 really good kids did show and the team will be even better!

You just laid out a clear pattern acknowledging everything I said about 91 parents hating coaches.
Interesting how so many of those coaches moved away from 91 and have no issues and are successful.

And 91 has daddy coaches too. One good, one bad. And the rumor is your losing the good one.

Pretty sucky environment if you ask me.
But good luck to you.
There was no way my kid was bothering with an organisation like yours.

Do you notice the anger and hate on this forum is only from 91 parents?
You dont see it from Express parents. They are pretty chill on this forum.
Tells you a lot about the environment on teams.
Just saying.

Bye angry hater.

I hear you! My son played for 91 and was treated as a second class citizen. If your not tight with JS and the gang you're in for a rough ride. You will see the favorites make mistake after mistake and stay on the field. When your son makes one, he will be pulled. We got wise to the nonsense real quick and made a move. My son flourished when he left and felt valued, and went on to become a higher level recruit than most of his former teammates. Do what feels right, don't get caught up in the name!

Thats true. I know plenty of people who have left 91 and nepotism is rampant in the organisation especially at this age group. Glad you had the sense to break away.
This forum on its own when you see how 91 parents act is proof any parent is crazy to even consider that team.

When do you think the 91 tryout results will be posted?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do you think the 91 tryout results will be posted?

And tuition Fee’s

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do you think the 91 tryout results will be posted?

And tuition Fee’s

Call them and ask. Thats why they are supposed to have Dynamic lacrosse as a management company.
Both questions they should be able to answer.
When do they expect to have their roster out?
What will the tuition be for 2025 team and whats included?

If they cant tell you that, then you should really question whether you want to be part of a team that hides information.

$3,000

Guterding on Igloo staff 2025

Originally Posted by Anonymous

$3,000

That was 17-18 season tuition for 91.
We are talking about tuition for 17-19 season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

$3,000

That was 17-18 season tuition for 91.
We are talking about tuition for 17-19 season.

Mistype.
Meant tuition for 18-19 season looking to find out for 91.

91 tuition is $3700 for 2025 AA
PLUS a 3.5% processing fee (are you joking, can you say money grab)
So its actually $3830-

91 tuition is $2995 for 2025 Hornets
PLUS a 3.5% processing fee (money grab)
So its actually $3100-

Rebels have 2 2028 teams. So much for the 1 team per age bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels have 2 2028 teams. So much for the 1 team per age bracket.

First of all that has been listed on the website under teams all along.
And thats a 3rd grade team.
And the 2nd one is listed as an East End team focusing on kids in eastern long island.
And if you call and ask Rebels Im sure they will be happy to explain why they decided to offer that.
Up to now anytime I have contacted rebels they have been more than forthcoming with information.

Having played for a team that was half the price of 91 last year. Let’s just say you get what you pay for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having played for a team that was half the price of 91 last year. Let’s just say you get what you pay for.

Believe me. Only half the team gets what they pay for on 91.

Nice add for Igloo with Duke Guterding
Nice team. GC pipeline opens up
Rams & 34 timed out?

What is Geese going to do? Only 6 kids from this years team were at tryouts.

A lot of their helmets at 91 tryouts, including the goalie

Are Igloo tryout over?
They Don’t advertise here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is Geese going to do? Only 6 kids from this years team were at tryouts.

Not true at all. Stop spreading lies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Igloo tryout over?
They Don’t advertise here

Come on.
You know they are not.
Look at the website.
Google it.

Very true and you know it. Going to be a rebuilding year to say the least. Make sure you get what you pay for. As far as I’m concerned you all deserve a refund after this years debacle with coach, no coach, coach, no coach, practice? No practice, practice? No practice.

Team 91 rosters starting to come out.

So far they have release 2nd grade 2029 Pride team
35 players listed...... what?????
They should rename that Romper Room

Also released 3rd grade 2028 Orange team
24 players listed .... still too many
And 3rd grade 2028 White team
28 players... riduculous.Money Grab. They dont care at all about this team.

Just tells you to expect overloaded rosters for older grades as well.
Can you say money grab?

The Geese are a sinking ship! Feel bad for Fiore he had
a special group of boys that went in many different
directions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very true and you know it. Going to be a rebuilding year to say the least. Make sure you get what you pay for. As far as I’m concerned you all deserve a refund after this years debacle with coach, no coach, coach, no coach, practice? No practice, practice? No practice.

Problem is you have to figure out where the coach is going to hop to so you can avoid being on the same team.

What happened at warrior games?

He’s got no choice but to stay. He’s banned from 91, he can’t coach at express or anywhere else for that matter. He has to stay. Which makes everyone else leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He’s got no choice but to stay. He’s banned from 91, he can’t coach at express or anywhere else for that matter. He has to stay. Which makes everyone else leave.

91 parent bashing a coach. Typical.
Noone else has a problem with him, except you.
You hate the geese assistant coach.
You hate the Ducks coach.
You hate the S2S coach.
The list goes on and on.
What does pattern show.
The pronlem is toxic parents at 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He’s got no choice but to stay. He’s banned from 91, he can’t coach at express or anywhere else for that matter. He has to stay. Which makes everyone else leave.

This is what his players parents think of him ....
“Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that. And probably could be a bit less vocal, and leave that to the head coach.”

To his credit, it was a mess before he came. No coaching, no leadership, parents running the show, he didn’t come in to a great situation. The people that left, as cancerous as they were, made the right choice to leave but should’ve waited until the end of the season to be fair to the other kids. Now more than half the team is gone. And not because of the 91 daddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at warrior games?

Dynamic Sports made a ton of money. What did you think was going to happen?

Aa expected a very expensive waste of time I am sure. At some point these 11 year olds need to put down their sticks. IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To his credit, it was a mess before he came. No coaching, no leadership, parents running the show, he didn’t come in to a great situation. The people that left, as cancerous as they were, made the right choice to leave but should’ve waited until the end of the season to be fair to the other kids. Now more than half the team is gone. And not because of the 91 daddy.

100% agree

Reilly has brought a lot more than we lost. Very nice guy who the kids love. He is great at motivating the kids.Fiore gets how to coach kids a lot more than he gets credit for. You don’t develope good Lacrosse players by standing on the sidelines yelling to each kid what he needs to do. He coaches in practice and gives the kids the space and time to develope the iq needed to succeed. He is the reason 91’had to get Spallina to coach and Express has to roll out Chan to save their kids. Through all of the wins and even last years tough losses his demeanor and plan for the kids has never changed. And when Mixed Nuts parents tried to band together to dictate who they wanted coaching or they would leave , the organization proved to everyone it wasn’t about money because they let them go even though we had maybe 20 kids not 25+ or 40 like the other teams. And right after you made your last tuition payment to 91 last year they added 3 kids to the roster. So bash all you want. We know we are the right spot just as much as you know 91 will screw you again.

Being an outsider, but a parent of a 2025er, this is all seemed so odd. But then I think back to the inane mixed nuts rants. Bottom line, if I ran a club... I say here is a full refund and I don’t want your business. I would hold a parents and coaches meeting and move on. You would earn the respect of a lot people, because the silent majority is seldom heard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at warrior games?

Dynamic Sports made a ton of money. What did you think was going to happen?

LI just got beat by a better team with 90 seconds left. it happens.

The organization did what? Are you having a liquid breakfast? The organization sat back and allowed the downward spiral starting with daddy war bucks and ending with the parents saying they will leave if you don’t meet their mandates. Which you did willingly and when daddy war bucks saw the low level of play with these golden kids he ran for the hills and that’s when they left. They were promised to play with the “best 2025 attackman in the country” by daddy and when he left , they left. But by then you had already hired 91 coach to help destroy whatever integrity was left. Only after you told parents “no daddy coaches” which had happened all along with daddy war bucks, the coach that sent an email that never showed up to one practice and then 91 savior. If the parents respected the organization for “letting them go” and “no daddy coaches” then they would not have left at the end of the season. Probably should’ve “let them go” and stood by your “no daddy” clause in August and you may have been able to field a team next summer.

So is goalie leaving Geese? Can’t fly too high without quality between the pipes.