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I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn't find any.

Just go to an Army Navy store. Plentiful. I am trying to find some really good peach ice cream but having difficulty can anyone help? Also, should I be putting my right leg into my pants first or my left? Oh yeah and my kid is just picking up lacrosse, what program should he go to I dream of him playing at Hopkins. We're all in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just go to an Army Navy store. Plentiful. I am trying to find some really good peach ice cream but having difficulty can anyone help? Also, should I be putting my right leg into my pants first or my left? Oh yeah and my kid is just picking up lacrosse, what program should he go to I dream of him playing at Hopkins. We're all in.

I would suggest reclassifying and becoming a 2023, then join Crabs as you will be the same age as everyone...

Madlax 2020 made huge strides this summer, including a narrow lost to Crush. Just a couple goals away from being the top team in the class of 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 made huge strides this summer, including a narrow lost to Crush. Just a couple goals away from being the top team in the class of 2020.

I'll alert the media.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 made huge strides this summer, including a narrow lost to Crush. Just a couple goals away from being the top team in the class of 2020.

OMG, not you again!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 made huge strides this summer, including a narrow lost to Crush. Just a couple goals away from being the top team in the class of 2020.

Please, please go away. Whatever you are taking, it is clearly clouding your judgment and views.

Worry about beating the other teams first before crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 made huge strides this summer, including a narrow lost to Crush. Just a couple goals away from being the top team in the class of 2020.

Please, please go away. Whatever you are taking, it is clearly clouding your judgment and views.

Crush 10 Madlax 1 at adrenilane Crush18 Madlax 2 Big 4 HHH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 made huge strides this summer, including a narrow lost to Crush. Just a couple goals away from being the top team in the class of 2020.

Please, please go away. Whatever you are taking, it is clearly clouding your judgment and views.

Crush 10 Madlax 1 at adrenilane Crush18 Madlax 2 Big 4 HHH

Who cares? Don't you get what the Madlax poster is doing? Are you that much of an idiot to keep responding? Or is it a Crush daddy with an opportunity to pound your chest? Maybe we should bring up the 4 Crush boys performance in Denver? Ouch!

Setting the field...

Rather than a "top 10" list here are some groupings.

Top:
Crush

Outstanding:
Crabs
Looneys
LI Express

The very good. Any of these teams could beat the others on any given day and might beat one in the group above every so often....

Annapolis Hawks
Laxachusettes
NH Tomahawks
91 Maryland
Leading Edge
Sweetlax upstate
FCA
Taz
Rising Sons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Setting the field...

Rather than a "top 10" list here are some groupings.

Top:
Crush

Outstanding:
Crabs
Looneys
LI Express

The very good. Any of these teams could beat the others on any given day and might beat one in the group above every so often....

Annapolis Hawks
Laxachusettes
NH Tomahawks
91 Maryland
Leading Edge
Sweetlax upstate
FCA
Taz
Rising Sons

Thank you express dad for your thoughts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Setting the field...

Rather than a "top 10" list here are some groupings.

Top:
Crush

Outstanding:
Crabs
Looneys
LI Express

The very good. Any of these teams could beat the others on any given day and might beat one in the group above every so often....

Annapolis Hawks
Laxachusettes
NH Tomahawks
91 Maryland
Leading Edge
Sweetlax upstate
FCA
Taz
Rising Sons

Express does not belong in the top group, otherwise agree. Scores of their games support this

Here is my attempt at grouping

Pretty clear cut no questions...
Tier 1:
91 crush

Solid group could beat 91 if they have a off day.
Tier 2:
Looneys
Crabs
WCS
FCA

Very strong teams
Tier 3:
Express
Laxachusetts
Tomahawks
Hawks
Leading edge
Rising sons
Sweet lax upstate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my attempt at grouping

Pretty clear cut no questions...
Tier 1:
91 crush

Solid group could beat 91 if they have a off day.
Tier 2:
Looneys
Crabs
WCS
FCA

WCS need to go down to "very strong" Taz could be in that mix too

Very strong teams
Tier 3:
Express
Laxachusetts
Tomahawks
Hawks
Leading edge
Rising sons
Sweet lax upstate

Spot on boys.. Watched a ton of great lacrosse this summer and this is very accurate.

Crabs and FCA really don't belong on any list because they have 16 year old on their roster. WCS is not a tier 2 team. Hawks and Laxachuesetts are tier 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs and FCA really don't belong on any list because they have 16 year old on their roster. WCS is not a tier 2 team. Hawks and Laxachuesetts are tier 2.

What kid(position) on fca is a 16 year old?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs and FCA really don't belong on any list because they have 16 year old on their roster. WCS is not a tier 2 team. Hawks and Laxachuesetts are tier 2.

Who did WCS beat? Scores against other top teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 made huge strides this summer, including a narrow lost to Crush. Just a couple goals away from being the top team in the class of 2020.

Please, please go away. Whatever you are taking, it is clearly clouding your judgment and views.

Crush 10 Madlax 1 at adrenilane Crush18 Madlax 2 Big 4 HHH

Wrong, Tat Dad. Madlax 2020 only lost to Crush at the Terp Shootout by 4 goals. If the game was 5 minutes longer, it could have been a different result.

We're used to the hate. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club out there. Gap has almost been closed.

They came into Baltimore and beat Freedom, Hawks, Looneys, FCA, 91 MD, they only loss was to the Rising Sons. I think they went 6-1 on the trip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs and FCA really don't belong on any list because they have 16 year old on their roster. WCS is not a tier 2 team. Hawks and Laxachuesetts are tier 2.

Who did WCS beat? Scores against other top teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They came into Baltimore and beat Freedom, Hawks, Looneys, FCA, 91 MD, they only loss was to the Rising Sons. I think they went 6-1 on the trip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs and FCA really don't belong on any list because they have 16 year old on their roster. WCS is not a tier 2 team. Hawks and Laxachuesetts are tier 2.

Who did WCS beat? Scores against other top teams?

They never played fca

Madlax got destroyed at big 4 by Lax and Crush. Lost to express and laxachusetts again at crabfeast.

What good teams did they beat?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax got destroyed at big 4 by Lax and Crush. Lost to express and laxachusetts again at crabfeast.

What good teams did they beat?

Almost beat Crush. Something few teams have accomplished.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They came into Baltimore and beat Freedom, Hawks, Looneys, FCA, 91 MD, they only loss was to the Rising Sons. I think they went 6-1 on the trip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs and FCA really don't belong on any list because they have 16 year old on their roster. WCS is not a tier 2 team. Hawks and Laxachuesetts are tier 2.

Who did WCS beat? Scores against other top teams?

They never played fca

So why would they be placed above the Sons? News Flash: They also have older kids on their roster. You also need more than one tournament to prove one's self

WCS beat those teams on play dates not tournaments. Apples to oranges. WCS does not belong on this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WCS beat those teams on play dates not tournaments. Apples to oranges. WCS does not belong on this list.

They played looneys? And fca?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WCS beat those teams on play dates not tournaments. Apples to oranges. WCS does not belong on this list.

Totally agree!! Nice that the west coast is fielding a decent team, but no where near top tier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my attempt at grouping

Pretty clear cut no questions...
Tier 1:
91 crush
I
Solid group could beat 91 if they have a off day.
Tier 2:
Looneys
Crabs
WCS
FCA

WCS need to go down to "very strong" Taz could be in that mix too

Very strong teams
Tier 3:
Express
Laxachusetts
Tomahawks
Hawks
Leading edge
Rising sons
Sweet lax upstate

Edge Canada has beaten Laxachusettes and Tiomahawks this summer, should be in mix

You are the funniest person I've ever seen I on here. Mad lax is a good team and has potential to be in the second tier group (and I'm being generous here). But Madlax will never be as good as Crush. Even though you believe otherwise (which NO ONE else agrees with).

Good team? They got housed all sumer long. They are only the 3rd best team in the DC area.

How are tryouts looking so far?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are tryouts looking so far?

Hot and humid

Seems like there is a lot of movement among the 2020 baltimore teams

Yes - fat crab is bringing down the 17s to play on the 20s. New Goalie and FOGO are in community college.

How about we address the elephant in the room? Who will play on Crush next year considering the rumored hold backs leaving to play on the 2021 team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like there is a lot of movement among the 2020 baltimore teams

What info are you searching for posting on both 2020 sites with this comment!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about we address the elephant in the room? Who will play on Crush next year considering the rumored hold backs leaving to play on the 2021 team?

Good question. One starting center middie who is already held back once, as well as coaches son who my be playing in is correct age group, although will still probably claim to be playing up. Leaves two nice starting positions. Express has a couple that will be holding back as well including a coaches son. Guess if you can't beat the Crabs, and realize bashing their strategy on botc is pointless, you join them. I call it cowardly and pathetic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about we address the elephant in the room? Who will play on Crush next year considering the rumored hold backs leaving to play on the 2021 team?

Good question. One starting center middie who is already held back once, as well as coaches son who my be playing in is correct age group, although will still probably claim to be playing up. Leaves two nice starting positions. Express has a couple that will be holding back as well including a coaches son. Guess if you can't beat the Crabs, and realize bashing their strategy on botc is pointless, you join them. I call it cowardly and pathetic!

No reason to hold back the center middle. He may be on the small side but he holds his own and is good enough to play his age. Why would his parents put him through this? If true,
It is pathetic!

ill believe it when I see it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about we address the elephant in the room? Who will play on Crush next year considering the rumored hold backs leaving to play on the 2021 team?

Good question. One starting center middie who is already held back once, as well as coaches son who my be playing in is correct age group, although will still probably claim to be playing up. Leaves two nice starting positions. Express has a couple that will be holding back as well including a coaches son. Guess if you can't beat the Crabs, and realize bashing their strategy on botc is pointless, you join them. I call it cowardly and pathetic!

No reason to hold back the center middle. He may be on the small side but he holds his own and is good enough to play his age. Why would his parents put him through this? If true,
It is pathetic!

My guess it's true, and he will play on both Crush and Blaze when Blaze plays grade based tournaments, and yes given the ability of the player and the fact he should be a 2019 to begin with, it is extremely pathetic !

Any 2020 rosters get emails yet?

The issue is not the ability to "hold your own" the issue is do you exceed the ability of your peers. These hold backs are looking to stand out amongst the crowd. The playing field isn't how it started out in 2nd and 3rd grade when their skill level and athleticism stood out. Holding their own isn't good enough now that they aren't stand outs they will repeat a grade once sometimes twice to stand out or exceed the skill level of those they will play with as well as against, or that's the expectation anyway. The question is, how do you improve if you aren't being challenged? How is this affecting these boys socially? What message are these parents sending their kids? This has become an epidemic.
No matter how you explain and rationalize the reasoning for leaving your kid behind for them to have an advantage over younger kids you have to wonder about the repercussions socially, and psychologically. We can all read between the lines, your good kid but not good enough, you'll "look better" and "seem smarter" if you go to class with younger kids and if you play amongst the younger kids. How do these kids NOT feel inadequate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The issue is not the ability to "hold your own" the issue is do you exceed the ability of your peers. These hold backs are looking to stand out amongst the crowd. The playing field isn't how it started out in 2nd and 3rd grade when their skill level and athleticism stood out. Holding their own isn't good enough now that they aren't stand outs they will repeat a grade once sometimes twice to stand out or exceed the skill level of those they will play with as well as against, or that's the expectation anyway. The question is, how do you improve if you aren't being challenged? How is this affecting these boys socially? What message are these parents sending their kids? This has become an epidemic.
No matter how you explain and rationalize the reasoning for leaving your kid behind for them to have an advantage over younger kids you have to wonder about the repercussions socially, and psychologically. We can all read between the lines, your good kid but not good enough, you'll "look better" and "seem smarter" if you go to class with younger kids and if you play amongst the younger kids. How do these kids NOT feel inadequate?

Especially if they do it twice, embarrassment

Fall schedules coming out

Bunch of kids are commiting already, when most of them have not even stepped on to a high school field. We will see just exactly how good some of these players are if they could start on varsity for their high school. my bet, not even 1/2 make varsity and those who do wont see a minute of playing time. some may be exceptionally gifted, but for the majority, they wont be so lucky.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my attempt at grouping

Pretty clear cut no questions...
Tier 1:
91 crush

Solid group could beat 91 if they have a off day.
Tier 2:
Looneys
Crabs
WCS
FCA

Very strong teams
Tier 3:
Express
Laxachusetts
Tomahawks
Hawks
Leading edge
Rising sons
Sweet lax upstate

Only 77 days until the games begin. It will be interesting to see what teams play the NLF event at Boy's Latin School Nov 6. WCS doesn't look to come east until Nov 19 and 20 in Long Island. Outside of the NLF members and affiliate's I see Looney's, FCA getting invited.

[quote=Anonymous]Fall schedules coming out Either Inside Lacrosse or Autumn Gold Nov 5 NLF Boy's Latin Nov 6 Big 4 HHH @ Hill School Nov 12 fl$ in Delaware Nov 13 Rotanz LI Nov 19 NLF LI Nov 20 or Philly Freshman NXT Event Nov 19-20. This is where the Top 15 Programs will be playing. Most are invite only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my attempt at grouping

Pretty clear cut no questions...
Tier 1:
91 crush
I
Solid group could beat 91 if they have a off day.
Tier 2:
Looneys
Crabs
WCS
FCA

WCS need to go down to "very strong" Taz could be in that mix too

Very strong teams
Tier 3:
Express
Laxachusetts
Tomahawks
Hawks
Leading edge
Rising sons
Sweet lax upstate

Edge Canada has beaten Laxachusettes and Tiomahawks this summer, should be in mix

and leading edge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my attempt at grouping

Pretty clear cut no questions...
Tier 1:
91 crush

Solid group could beat 91 if they have a off day.
Tier 2:
Looneys
Crabs
WCS
FCA

Very strong teams
Tier 3:
Express
Laxachusetts
Tomahawks
Hawks
Leading edge
Rising sons
Sweet lax upstate

Only 77 days until the games begin. It will be interesting to see what teams play the NLF event at Boy's Latin School Nov 6. WCS doesn't look to come east until Nov 19 and 20 in Long Island. Outside of the NLF members and affiliate's I see Looney's, FCA getting invited.

what teams are part of the NLF?

Why don't you look it up instead of wasting everyone's time!!!

You may be right about the early commits not contributing to varsity but what difference does it make??? they are being recruited based on their relative talent to other class of 20 players and trust me, every kid that has been committed is amongst the best (and most mature physically) in the grade. Who knows if they will still be as talented relatively in four years but for now they are legit. I'm sure some will falloff and other kids will rise but it is what it is right now.

Some of these kids go to top 20 National Programs and probably won't make varsity. Put them at a public HS and most would contribute as Freshman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bunch of kids are commiting already, when most of them have not even stepped on to a high school field. We will see just exactly how good some of these players are if they could start on varsity for their high school. my bet, not even 1/2 make varsity and those who do wont see a minute of playing time. some may be exceptionally gifted, but for the majority, they wont be so lucky.

Exactly, so for all the haters, many of these kids that have committed play in tough conferences and at really good schools. What makes you think their not going to get a lot better? They don't stop growing their game because they committed. Thats you just trying to make yourself feel better about your own son. I've seen numerous posts on here saying the kids are just ok that committed?? wth are you talking about?Theri all from top 15 2020 teams. Even if every kid on those teams was D1 thats only 300 kids there are 400 more spots. These kids are the best of the best and will continue to get better. They play against the best of the best. College coaches have seen them play against the best in team events and individual events. Mom and Dad stop telling yourself that these kids aren't going to be good college players stop. Its a lie, self preservation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of these kids go to top 20 National Programs and probably won't make varsity. Put them at a public HS and most would contribute as Freshman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bunch of kids are commiting already, when most of them have not even stepped on to a high school field. We will see just exactly how good some of these players are if they could start on varsity for their high school. my bet, not even 1/2 make varsity and those who do wont see a minute of playing time. some may be exceptionally gifted, but for the majority, they wont be so lucky.

Is it true that a Crush kid actually ninja quit and went to Express?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true that a Crush kid actually ninja quit and went to Express?

Wouldn't be the first time. There is usually some turnover on the second lines. And it is perfectly logical to go to another good team in order to get more playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Here is my attempt at grouping

Pretty clear cut no questions...
Tier 1:
91 crush

Solid group could beat 91 if they have a off day.
Tier 2:
Looneys
Crabs
WCS
FCA

Very strong teams
Tier 3:
Express
Laxachusetts
Tomahawks
Hawks
Leading edge
Rising sons
Sweet lax upstate

Only 77 days until the games begin. It will be interesting to see what teams play the NLF event at Boy's Latin School Nov 6. WCS doesn't look to come east until Nov 19 and 20 in Long Island. Outside of the NLF members and affiliate's I see Looney's, FCA getting invited.

what teams are part of the NLF? Crabs Crush Leading Edge 4HHH LIE Laxchussets and affiliates are WCS Mesa Fresh Edge Canada and Eclipse. So at Boy's Latin 3 possible invite's

What does "ninja quit" mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does "ninja quit" mean?

LOL, I wanted to ask the same thing.

Some new faces on Terps this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does "ninja quit" mean?

My superior intellect tells me that he is referring to the fact that the kid snuck away from his former team and joined the new team without telling anyone until it was over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does "ninja quit" mean?

My superior intellect tells me that he is referring to the fact that the kid snuck away from his former team and joined the new team without telling anyone until it was over.

I'd call it the "Irish Goodbye Quit".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does "ninja quit" mean?

My superior intellect tells me that he is referring to the fact that the kid snuck away from his former team and joined the new team without telling anyone until it was over.

Ding! Ding! Ding! You win!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some new faces on Terps this year.

At what positions?

No Igloo anywhere?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does "ninja quit" mean?

My superior intellect tells me that he is referring to the fact that the kid snuck away from his former team and joined the new team without telling anyone until it was over.

Ding! Ding! Ding! You win!

Best is watching a parent rage quit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does "ninja quit" mean?

My superior intellect tells me that he is referring to the fact that the kid snuck away from his former team and joined the new team without telling anyone until it was over.

Ding! Ding! Ding! You win!

Best is watching a parent rage quit.

Absolutely! They do everyone a favor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think anyone is questioning the ability of the left attack from crush. if every early recruit was as good as him, people would understand. However, there are some kids that have "committed" that are just not that great. Time will tell, but I would be willing to bet that some of these players not only won't produce in college, some will struggle to be impact players in HS

Agree. He is the real deal but several of the commits are just good players and are either holdbacks, coaches sons or connected somehow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. He is the real deal but several of the commits are just good players and are either holdbacks, coaches sons or connected somehow.

Sorta like the rest of real life.

So which 2020 players will be making the biggest impact on their HS teams? Will it be the early commits or the unsung heroes who might still be trying to maintain a normal life where you pick colleges when you are 16/17?

The great thing about the early commits are they will absolutely get to choose when they are 16 or 17.
The players who haven't had the chance to commit may never have the opportunity to choose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The great thing about the early commits are they will absolutely get to choose when they are 16 or 17.
The players who haven't had the chance to commit may never have the opportunity to choose.

Not all early commits will have a choice when they are 16-17. Many will find that others have passed them by. Maybe the verbal will hold, but some will not. A commitment at 14 is not the end. It also isn't nearly the big deal that people pretend it is. Not to say that most of the early commits aren't great now. But these are kids. Some will continue to grow and mature. Some will lose interest. If the kid doesn't embrace the grind, he will never play in college, early commit or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. He is the real deal but several of the commits are just good players and are either holdbacks, coaches sons or connected somehow.

Sorta like the rest of real life.

Are 2020s attending prospect days yet?

Ummmm , '21's are attending now !!

Virtually every D1 team has or is having a prospect day for 2020s this fall...

21s are not attending now

21 parents's don't be stupid, wait until summer before you attend a prospect day, unless it is specifically for 21's.

To much to loss, and injury is too big a risk. You have 16/17 YO 2019 2018 you will be going up against that have something to prove.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

21 parents's don't be stupid, wait until summer before you attend a prospect day, unless it is specifically for 21's.

To much to loss, and injury is too big a risk. You have 16/17 YO 2019 2018 you will be going up against that have something to prove.

Blaze kids at Michigan getting schooled in clinic, don't belong there, and took away from others who deserved to be there! Silly and pathetic abuse of 91 power. Remember what happened to them in Denver when they played an average 2020 team? Nuff said!

I agree. And blame the college coaches for accepting them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree. And blame the college coaches for accepting them

Yup! Disgusting abuse of power coming out of the mouths of those claiming to "grow the game" FYI: you just shamed the game. And then brag about it on social media? Are you freaking kidding? News Flash: those kids will not be the early recruits, but you just promoted early recruiting????

Saw the two Brentwood stars, 91 kid and old leg girl, speed training together. I guess you could say daddy coach only coaches who he wants to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw the two Brentwood stars, 91 kid and old leg girl, speed training together. I guess you could say daddy coach only coaches who he wants to.

You my friend are deranged. now you resort to making stuff up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree. And blame the college coaches for accepting them

Yup! Disgusting abuse of power coming out of the mouths of those claiming to "grow the game" FYI: you just shamed the game. And then brag about it on social media? Are you freaking kidding? News Flash: those kids will not be the early recruits, but you just promoted early recruiting????

What are you talking about. Take your meds. Truth is there are many average 2020 already committed so your probably wrong! When has that org spoke badly about early recruiting ? Answer : never Kids went to a college campus watched a football game and played some lacrosse. Hmm sounds like someone's boy isn't getting recruited as hard as daddy wishes. Relax and enjoy YOUR boy and not worry about everyone else. That's the problem , everyone is worried what everyone else's son is doing instead of focusing on their own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree. And blame the college coaches for accepting them

Yup! Disgusting abuse of power coming out of the mouths of those claiming to "grow the game" FYI: you just shamed the game. And then brag about it on social media? Are you freaking kidding? News Flash: those kids will not be the early recruits, but you just promoted early recruiting????

What are you talking about. Take your meds. Truth is there are many average 2020 already committed so your probably wrong! When has that org spoke badly about early recruiting ? Answer : never Kids went to a college campus watched a football game and played some lacrosse. Hmm sounds like someone's boy isn't getting recruited as hard as daddy wishes. Relax and enjoy YOUR boy and not worry about everyone else. That's the problem , everyone is worried what everyone else's son is doing instead of focusing on their own.

Not worried about my son, he's doing just fine in the recruiting process. The problem is that these very average 2021 kids took spots at an invitation only prospect day. These kids brought the level down. There are plenty of kids in the 2020 and 2019 age group who could have actually benefitted from the visit. Check twitter, you will see that this organizations leaders have made comments against early recruiting, then send 2021 kids to prospect camp. Funny, they have also aloud the reclassing of some very good 2020 kids who will now bump loyal 2021 kids from their teams. Hypocrites, cheaters, bad for the sport.

Everyone knows what 91 COACH is a PATHETIC EXAMPLE for the SPORT of LACROSSE .... #PATHETIC91COACH#EGOMANIAC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree. And blame the college coaches for accepting them

Yup! Disgusting abuse of power coming out of the mouths of those claiming to "grow the game" FYI: you just shamed the game. And then brag about it on social media? Are you freaking kidding? News Flash: those kids will not be the early recruits, but you just promoted early recruiting????

What are you talking about. Take your meds. Truth is there are many average 2020 already committed so your probably wrong! When has that org spoke badly about early recruiting ? Answer : never Kids went to a college campus watched a football game and played some lacrosse. Hmm sounds like someone's boy isn't getting recruited as hard as daddy wishes. Relax and enjoy YOUR boy and not worry about everyone else. That's the problem , everyone is worried what everyone else's son is doing instead of focusing on their own.

Not worried about my son, he's doing just fine in the recruiting process. The problem is that these very average 2021 kids took spots at an invitation only prospect day. These kids brought the level down. There are plenty of kids in the 2020 and 2019 age group who could have actually benefitted from the visit. Check twitter, you will see that this organizations leaders have made comments against early recruiting, then send 2021 kids to prospect camp. Funny, they have also aloud the reclassing of some very good 2020 kids who will now bump loyal 2021 kids from their teams. Hypocrites, cheaters, bad for the sport.

Great post. Very true. Blow it up on Instagram and now more kids at the tryouts and charge more $$$$. You really think Michigan is looking at 13 yr olds ? When there are Sophs and Frosh trying to make a team ? Embarrassing. You wanna visit and go to a football game fine , the connections are everywhere . But cmon be real. A lot of other kids out there better that don't have the "luxury " of being on ninetyone

The 91 players were from 2021 team not the 2020 team. If these players like you say are good not great (personally haven't seen or know any 21's) isn't that kinda the way Michigan program is at right now? No one committed anywhere they went to visit a school watched a game and played a few hours of lax. The connections people are complaining about are why some clubs are valued more than others. If kids are good enough they are found regardless.

isn't there a 2021 site for this nonsense!

I would say the main complaint should be the fact that this was promoted as an invite only event capping at 40 2020 players that the school was interested in seeing first hand. It ended up being 66 players (2021's unfortunately included) playing on 3 teams with very little actual time on the field to be seen. Great weekend but as we have seen in the recruiting game over and over again, not as billed! It would be refreshing to see a program actually stick to their plan and not fold to certain travel teams.

Some of the 2020s that were there were no what I would consider top tier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the 2020s that were there were no what I would consider top tier.

Top kids noticed at elite tournaments and showcases from Laxachusettes, Tomahawks, Sweetlax, Leg, Crush, FCA. These are many of the same kids that have been on the circuit of college visits and are considered top recruits, narrowing down there choices. Sorry if your kid either wasn't able to attend, or didn't belong there because he was the wrong age group. This was one of the highest level prospect camps my son has attended, and he's been to a few.

If you say so - it must be true. I was there and other than the dog and pony show it was a waste of time. What other D1 program has 2021s at a prospect day? The kings of early recruiting don't even do that...

Hearing Express Terps one of the coaches sons (not the St. A's coach) has just reemerged as a '21. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hearing Express Terps one of the coaches sons (not the St. A's coach) has just reemerged as a '21. Pathetic.

Same for Crush

McA ?

Where will they play this fall and in the summer? Both good players. I'm guessing they play with the 20's and the 21's. Schedules will have to be shuffled around.

I know for $hit Sure that if i repeated a grade in Middle or HS my friends would have torn me a new a$$. they would probably tear my son a new one if he repeated now. Different world, I no like it but to each his own.. all i can do is write about it in a song.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McA ?

Yes, Crush, pitiful

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McA ?

Yes, Crush, pitiful

Why you ask? Too short . Same fate awaits head coaches kids if you look at parents. You can only hold a kid back so many times before you realize they ain't growing and becoming the 6 foot plus beast that colleges are looking for! Good news is there are always sports like wrestling where it doesn't matter

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

Very interesting point never realized how many elite attackman are smaller. Add Matt Kavanaugh Dylan Donoghue to that list as well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

So your saying now is that colleges are looking for small defenders ? U name a few big name attack men that are short. I'm sure there's a bigger list of ones that are 6'1" +

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

Keep telling yourself size is not a matter. So you named a few undersized attack men with amazing skill. Not many young men can do what those few can ever do. Plan B is take the kids who are big with very good skill . Don't try and justify lack of size. When the option is there , always go bigger

Not saying size doesn't matter just saying of all sports lacrosse is one where it isn't everything That said of you aren't over 6'0 the skill set has to be better. especially with the way unfortunately contact is slowly beginning to be taken away from the sport. Just a healthy discussion supplied with facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

If size doesn't matter, why do you suppose parents are holding back the boys? As other kids grew around these boys, they don't look as good. I agree that there are some exceptional players who are small, but is exactly that, an exception. Smaller kids need to work twice as hard to prove they belong on the field. These parents have no faith in their kids ability and that is the sad part! Sucks to peak as a 7th grader!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

Uhhh did you happen notice the best attackman (best Lacrosse player) in D1 last year? Molloy, He's 6'2" 235. The next best attackman is Rambo from MD 6'1" 220, Best Rookie attack? Kid from Loyola 6'3" 215, And so on and so on. These guys are match up nightmares for the best Defensemen in the country. Cannot be left one on one. Always doubled. The trend is definitely not to go small. Just the opposite. Can the smaller guys compete, sure. But trend is definitely towards the bigger man.

Keep telling yourself size is not a matter. So you named a few undersized attack men with amazing skill. Not many young men can do what those few can ever do. Plan B is take the kids who are big with very good skill . Don't try and justify lack of size. When the option is there , always go bigger

I'd take a fast undersized kid with stick skills and a high IQ over a big meathead any day of the week.

I don't think either examples out shine the other, IMHO... but both are good examples that a good lacrosse player come in many sizes.

The two players that sparked this from crush and express are both midfielders so it doesn't apply to them but to keep w convo for every Dylan Molloy there is a much better track record for smaller smarter more skilled attackman That's why Molloy is the exception most and I say most of the most successful attackman the past 5/6 years have been smaller ones. Even a smaller sample size. Top three attackman NCAA lacrosse this year. Molloy Kavanaugh, Donoghue. (2 of which 5'8 ) great topic for conversation because there is NO answer. Success has and will continue to be had by both types

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd take a fast undersized kid with stick skills and a high IQ over a big meathead any day of the week.

So you are fast to call the small kid fast , great stick skill , high IQ but the big athlete is a meathead ?? I will sound like you .... I would rather take the big , tall , lean , fast and powerful , high IQ , great stick skill player then a small pipsqueek any day.
Size does matter !! ( don't get excited now !!!)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd take a fast undersized kid with stick skills and a high IQ over a big meathead any day of the week.

Except if the big meat head is a 6'3" 225 Lb. physical specimen and freak athlete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

Uhhh did you happen notice the best attackman (best Lacrosse player) in D1 last year? Molloy, He's 6'2" 235. The next best attackman is Rambo from MD 6'1" 220, Best Rookie attack? Kid from Loyola 6'3" 215, And so on and so on. These guys are match up nightmares for the best Defensemen in the country. Cannot be left one on one. Always doubled. The trend is definitely not to go small. Just the opposite. Can the smaller guys compete, sure. But trend is definitely towards the bigger man.

Keep telling yourself size is not a matter. So you named a few undersized attack men with amazing skill. Not many young men can do what those few can ever do. Plan B is take the kids who are big with very good skill . Don't try and justify lack of size. When the option is there , always go bigger

100 percent correct, like it or not (there are always a couple of exceptions) regardless of the sport if you have a bigger man who is a standout athlete, coaches will ALWAYS go with the physical size and strength, its just the way it is. likely the primary reason Crush midfielder was held back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The two players that sparked this from crush and express are both midfielders so it doesn't apply to them but to keep w convo for every Dylan Molloy there is a much better track record for smaller smarter more skilled attackman That's why Molloy is the exception most and I say most of the most successful attackman the past 5/6 years have been smaller ones. Even a smaller sample size. Top three attackman NCAA lacrosse this year. Molloy Kavanaugh, Donoghue. (2 of which 5'8 ) great topic for conversation because there is NO answer. Success has and will continue to be had by both types

I guess you didn't notice the kid from UNC. Cloutier, basically dismantled MD. 6'0" 215. Number 1 attack Molloy 6'2" 235, #2 Cloutier 6'0" 215, #3 Rambo 6'1 220, #4 Spencer 6'3" 200... Big guys are winning awards and Championships. Oh and Lyle Thompson also a 6 footer. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The two players that sparked this from crush and express are both midfielders so it doesn't apply to them but to keep w convo for every Dylan Molloy there is a much better track record for smaller smarter more skilled attackman That's why Molloy is the exception most and I say most of the most successful attackman the past 5/6 years have been smaller ones. Even a smaller sample size. Top three attackman NCAA lacrosse this year. Molloy Kavanaugh, Donoghue. (2 of which 5'8 ) great topic for conversation because there is NO answer. Success has and will continue to be had by both types

I guess you didn't notice the kid from UNC. Cloutier, basically dismantled MD. 6'0" 215. Number 1 attack Molloy 6'2" 235, #2 Cloutier 6'0" 215, #3 Rambo 6'1 220, #4 Spencer 6'3" 200... Big guys are winning awards and Championships. Oh and Lyle Thompson also a 6 footer. Sorry.

Cloutier the box lacrosse player from Canada?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd take a fast undersized kid with stick skills and a high IQ over a big meathead any day of the week.

Except if the big meat head is a 6'3" 225 Lb. physical specimen and freak athlete.

LOL. Lets be honest with ourselves. If you're 6'3" 225 and a FREAK athlete you're taking a full ride for a money sport (i.e. football). Lacrosse is a nice letter and something to do in the spring.

Size matters, sure. Sure does speed, agility, IQ and skill. For every Malloy there is a Sankey. You honestly think coaches or parents are holding their kids back because of their size? No. Simply leveraging the system to gain an advantage and play down vs. up. In other words, make me look good vs. weaker more developed players. HS will equalize it all ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd take a fast undersized kid with stick skills and a high IQ over a big meathead any day of the week.

Except if the big meat head is a 6'3" 225 Lb. physical specimen and freak athlete.

LOL. Lets be honest with ourselves. If you're 6'3" 225 and a FREAK athlete you're taking a full ride for a money sport (i.e. football). Lacrosse is a nice letter and something to do in the spring.

Size matters, sure. Sure does speed, agility, IQ and skill. For every Malloy there is a Sankey. You honestly think coaches or parents are holding their kids back because of their size? No. Simply leveraging the system to gain an advantage and play down vs. up. In other words, make me look good vs. weaker more developed players. HS will equalize it all ...

? You answered your own question with "no" but made the case for "yes", this is why we hold back - Simply leveraging the system to gain an advantage and play down vs. up. In other words, make me look good vs. weaker more developed players. Sounds to me like the narrative holdbacks use? No? Yes!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd take a fast undersized kid with stick skills and a high IQ over a big meathead any day of the week.

So you are fast to call the small kid fast , great stick skill , high IQ but the big athlete is a meathead ?? I will sound like you .... I would rather take the big , tall , lean , fast and powerful , high IQ , great stick skill player then a small pipsqueek any day.
Size does matter !! ( don't get excited now !!!)

Just by your description of a smaller player, I am fast to call you a MEATHEAD, yep, a true MEATHEAD. Pipsqueek, really?One thing may at times be true, size does matter and the size of your IQ is way way low, as are your social skills. Now don't you go getting excited!!!!

Brains always beats brawn. If you have both - more power to you. That combination is rare.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The two players that sparked this from crush and express are both midfielders so it doesn't apply to them but to keep w convo for every Dylan Molloy there is a much better track record for smaller smarter more skilled attackman That's why Molloy is the exception most and I say most of the most successful attackman the past 5/6 years have been smaller ones. Even a smaller sample size. Top three attackman NCAA lacrosse this year. Molloy Kavanaugh, Donoghue. (2 of which 5'8 ) great topic for conversation because there is NO answer. Success has and will continue to be had by both types

I guess you didn't notice the kid from UNC. Cloutier, basically dismantled MD. 6'0" 215. Number 1 attack Molloy 6'2" 235, #2 Cloutier 6'0" 215, #3 Rambo 6'1 220, #4 Spencer 6'3" 200... Big guys are winning awards and Championships. Oh and Lyle Thompson also a 6 footer. Sorry.

Rambo and Cloutier both under 6'0 and while Spencer is 6'3 he weighs 185 Listen Lacrosse is great because big or small players can be the best

"big or small players can be the best"

True, but all things being equal, coaches will take the bigger player deal with it all you Napoleans out there and enjoy your extra leg room on the airplanes while we big guys suffer...

Sports car vs. a Freight Train. I'll take the sports car.

[quote=Anonymous] "big or small players can be the best"

True, but all things being equal, coaches will take the bigger player deal with it all you Napoleans out there and enjoy your extra leg room on the airplanes while we big guys suffer...
[/quote
You are correct, you do suffer, from a LOW IQ.

So Crush now has 2 holdbacks. Plus one coaches kid playing up, who belongs in 7th grade, but is in 6th. Can we start a soap opera?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Crush now has 2 holdbacks. Plus one coaches kid playing up, who belongs in 7th grade, but is in 6th. Can we start a soap opera?

Umm no on the soap opera because it's been that way the past few years . Crush two hold backs, express has 4/5 hold backs enough of this crap. Go play catch with your kid, with the energy your wasting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"big or small players can be the best"

True, but all things being equal, coaches will take the bigger player deal with it all you Napoleans out there and enjoy your extra leg room on the airplanes while we big guys suffer...

What a na�ve thing to say. You truly are a [lacrosse]...

Naive??? please explain. Boy did I hit a nerve with a few morons on that one! LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naive??? please explain. Boy did I hit a nerve with a few morons on that one! LOL

Simple Jr. pull up a chair...class is in session.

Na�ve because of your comment "a coach will take the bigger kid all the time"...not accurate genius, not even close

I should of added "condescending" with the Napol�on reference and pompous calling yourself a "big guy"

Dude, with comments like that, you're not big, you're just an [lacrosse].

Class dismissed....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Naive??? please explain. Boy did I hit a nerve with a few morons on that one! LOL

Simple Jr. pull up a chair...class is in session.

Na�ve because of your comment "a coach will take the bigger kid all the time"...not accurate genius, not even close

I should of added "condescending" with the Napol�on reference and pompous calling yourself a "big guy"

Dude, with comments like that, you're not big, you're just an [lacrosse].

Class dismissed.... [/quote
THAT JUST HAPPENED!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naive??? please explain. Boy did I hit a nerve with a few morons on that one! LOL

Simple Jr. pull up a chair...class is in session.

Na�ve because of your comment "a coach will take the bigger kid all the time"...not accurate genius, not even close

I should of added "condescending" with the Napol�on reference and pompous calling yourself a "big guy"

Dude, with comments like that, you're not big, you're just an [lacrosse].

Class dismissed....

The proverbial pot calling the kettle black. I'm not the person that sent the original post that you are replying to, but you certainly sound like a bigger condescending [lacrosse] than him or her. You sound "small" in many ways, shapes and forms.

Madlax has the #4 2017 recruit, the #1 2018 recruit and the #1 2019 recruit.

Any questions? LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax has the #4 2017 recruit, the #1 2018 recruit and the #1 2019 recruit.

Any questions? LOL.

Yes. One question? Will any of them be younger than 20 when they enter college? Doubtful. Best quote about the 2018 kid is from that dope Xanders, "a man amoung boys" As if we did'nt know...

Ask any future employer of these kids who graduate from top colleges if they ask if their new hire is 22 or 22 1/2. Man you envious Dads are so pathetic.. Good news is High School Soccer tryouts havent happened yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax has the #4 2017 recruit, the #1 2018 recruit and the #1 2019 recruit.

Any questions? LOL.

Yes. One question? Will any of them be younger than 20 when they enter college? Doubtful. Best quote about the 2018 kid is from that dope Xanders, "a man amoung boys" As if we did'nt know...

Don't hate just because your club can't match up.

There are 10 2020's that are better than your #1 2019, Maybe more!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax has the #4 2017 recruit, the #1 2018 recruit and the #1 2019 recruit.

Any questions? LOL.

2020 Crush LSM/FOGO to Princeton

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Crush LSM/FOGO to Princeton

More accurately, this should say he committed to the application process. It is way too early to tell if any 9th grader will step foot on an Ivy League field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Crush LSM/FOGO to Princeton

Thanks for the update you creepy stalker.

P.S. Do you think you are the only person on Twitter?

Of course there is zero congratulations by the envious loser Dads. What they meant to say was.. .Props to the parents and to that young man!!! Princeton.. Wow.. Incredible opportunity to attend the finest institution in the world because he plays lacrosse... Sick.. I'm sure the kid is on age but if he has a summer bday you clowns would find a way to find fault in that family's thought process. Again..Congrats...Ridiculous opportunity!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Crush LSM/FOGO to Princeton

Thanks for the update you creepy stalker.

P.S. Do you think you are the only person on Twitter?

Someone is very angry and very very jealous ...lol priceless, looser parent behavior at it's best.

Reclassed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are 10 2020's that are better than your #1 2019, Maybe more!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax has the #4 2017 recruit, the #1 2018 recruit and the #1 2019 recruit.

Any questions? LOL.

LOL. Another idiotic Strong Island dad.

Have you seen Shellenberger play? The kid is unbelievable. Unlike your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reclassed

Not this kid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reclassed

If so, please show your proof that he is reclassed. Just making a statement doesn't prove sh*t. Have no use for people like you that make statements but have no backup/verification to prove your point.
Or, just maybe, your little johnny hasn't been selected and you are just pissed.

Who gives a flying F if he is reclassed?? He is on his way to Princeton..

I'm sure the kid is smart, good kid. That isn't where I am critical. Princeton administrators look like a joke when the institution is exposed to a sports coach doing this.

Princeton is currently receiving thousands of applications from kids who are at the highest rung of accomplishment, valedictorians, etc in the 2016 class. MOST of them won't be admitted. It is a joke and an abject fraud to 'commit' a kid who started high school less than a month ago. At some point the administrators at these schools just need to deep six the discretion coaches have before kids are HS rising seniors. Madalon looks like a joke. Bad start for a guy with no equity to burn. He might have just burned it all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who gives a flying F if he is reclassed?? He is on his way to Princeton..

Who gives a flying F that I paid someone to take the SAT for my kid?? He is on his way to Harvard.

That literally was the dumbest response to date on this forum! At least you take your anger, envy and bitterness out on is forum and you don't walk around the house kicking Fido.. or maybe you do. Congrats young man.. Take this opportunity and run with it!!!

You had to pay someone to take the SAT for your kid?? So your kids a moron like you and he sucks at lax! Lolollolol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who gives a flying F if he is reclassed?? He is on his way to Princeton..

Who gives a flying F that I paid someone to take the SAT for my kid?? He is on his way to Harvard.

Love this response! Great analogy in my eyes.

He is listed as a 2019 multiple times on my internets.

Brain dead move by the new Primceton coach. He's going to have a rough go w/ that admissions group and administration. Long memories in that admissions office, and not all of it good. Madalon isn't too bright.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brain dead move by the new Primceton coach. He's going to have a rough go w/ that admissions group and administration. Long memories in that admissions office, and not all of it good. Madalon isn't too bright.

Cannot understand how a top Ivy commits a kid who hasn't even gotten a report card yet in high school.......More power to the kid and his family, but this is ridiculous. MAybe it will work out, but it is just throwing darts with no high school track record and no SAT/ACT. Good luck to the kid, but Princeton University should be ashamed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brain dead move by the new Primceton coach. He's going to have a rough go w/ that admissions group and administration. Long memories in that admissions office, and not all of it good. Madalon isn't too bright.

Pretty sure being a new hire at a prestigious university w a rich lacrosse background he asked around, another jealous jerk

Not a reclass

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are 10 2020's that are better than your #1 2019, Maybe more!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax has the #4 2017 recruit, the #1 2018 recruit and the #1 2019 recruit.

Any questions? LOL.

LOL. Another idiotic Strong Island dad.

Have you seen Shellenberger play? The kid is unbelievable. Unlike your kid.

As I suspected, no response. We shut you guys up on the field and on the Internet.

Thank you for that instructional diatribe. I feel so much brighter and more informed and no longer naive. You are truly accretive to society. Go get 'em today undersized man--but fear not I can tell you have the heart of a lion and that counts for more than mere size, speed and body mass.

"2020 Crush LSM/FOGO to Princeton"

Congratulations to the young man and for all others, there truly is hope--the apple can indeed roll far from the tree!

Good for him. Now - get the grades/test scores and he is all set. If not - he will be going somewhere else.

How ironic and hypocritical! IL has run an article highlighting Princeton's commitment to end early recruiting today. Is this a freaking joke?

All right people enough is enough with the attacks on this young man. I personally know him and his family. He is a great kid and a great player. For those who have no clue he is an exceptional student at an exceptional school. He is in the top 2% of academics in the country. He is also a versatile lacrosse player that is truly gifted. Why must people hate or put down a young man for achieving something so amazing. This is a lacrosse board and this is the lacrosse community making these disparaging comments. If you know the family they did not make this decision without thoroughly vetting the situation. Madalon saw ano opportunity to sign a top players with a long familial history of athletic success. Be 100% sure Princetons admissions looked at his academic workload and the advanced classes he is taking before they agreed to the commitment. Can't we just be happy for a great player and his family.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is listed as a 2019 multiple times on my internets.

Check your facts. This young man has always been a 2020.

How does someone get in the top 2% of academics? Please shut up.

Originally Posted by America's Game

All right people enough is enough with the attacks on this young man. I personally know him and his family. He is a great kid and a great player. For those who have no clue he is an exceptionally onal student at an exceptional school. He is in the top 2% of academics in the country. He is also a versatile lacrosse player that is truly gifted. Why must people hate or put down a young man for achieving something so amazing. This is a lacrosse board and this is the lacrosse community making these disparaging comments. If you know the family they did not make this decision without thoroughly vetting the situation. Madalon saw ano opportunity to sign a top players with a long familial history of athletic success. Be 100% sure Princetons admissions looked at his academic workload and the advanced classes he is taking before they agreed to the commitment. Can't we just be happy for a great player and his family.

Agreed he is a 2020, and excellent academically as well as athletically. The criticism is not of the player, just the hypocrisy of a school ranked #1 by multiple sources . They verbally Comimit a young boty the same day they are cited condemning the practice. This is a school that has an obligation in my opinion to be a leader in reform, they however have just become another follower. Now if my kid was offered, of course I'd be thrilled, but that doesn't make it right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get in the top 2% of academics? Please shut up.

It's called being smart.Some people early on in their academic careers are able to separate themselves from the pack and this young man has done so. Ohh and by the way as a moderator I see that you are the main person stirring the pot so please why don't you go away.

It's a ridiculous claim to make that any child that has not even finished 1 semester of high school is in the top two percent of academics. Explain to me how that is measured. Tell me how - a standardized placement test? If that's the case we can do away with the SATs, ACTs, etc. - let's go straight to Princeton.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a ridiculous claim to make that any child that has not even finished 1 semester of high school is in the top two percent of academics. Explain to me how that is measured. Tell me how - a standardized placement test? If that's the case we can do away with the SATs, ACTs, etc. - let's go straight to Princeton.

I was wondering the same thing ? Seems like a rather bold claim with no facts to back it up

PRINCETON, N.J. -- The Ivy League, continuing its commitment to a student-centered model of Division I athletics, has proposed NCAA legislation to allow prospective student-athletes more time in the recruiting process to make the important decision of where to attend college.

�The pressure on prospective student-athletes to commit to a specific college earlier and earlier is a national issue,� said Executive Director Robin Harris. �It causes stress for prospects and their families, as they are often asked to make a life-altering decision as high school freshmen or sophomores, and sometimes even before they have started high school.

�Our goals are to elevate the national conversation about the negative effects of early recruiting, and to challenge the NCAA membership to change the culture of recruiting that forces prospective student-athletes to verbally commit before they are academically, athletically, or emotionally ready to make their college choice.�

Early recruiting of prospects occurs despite existing NCAA rules that prohibit coaches from initiating contact until the junior year of high school. Through various workarounds, including non-scholastic coaches and social media, access to prospective student-athletes has accelerated the recruiting timeline.

This past May, the Ivy League Directors of Athletics charged the League office with reviewing early recruiting practices and proposing NCAA legislation to address the problems.

The Ivy League proposals focus on multiple aspects of the recruiting process, such as the timeline for verbal commitments, contact during camps, and expanding limits on telephone calls and unofficial visits.

Specifically, coaches would not be allowed to make verbal offers of financial aid or support in the admission process prior to the start of the prospective student-athlete�s junior year. Additionally, other means of communication, such as initiating or receiving telephone calls, planning unofficial visits and having recruiting conversations at camps and clinics would be prohibited prior to the start of the junior year.

The Ivy League is not alone in trying to remedy early recruiting. Several national coaches groups have identified early recruiting as a significant problem. Other proposals addressing the recruiting timeline have been introduced into the NCAA legislative cycle, including proposals specific to field hockey, women�s gymnastics, and men�s and women�s lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a ridiculous claim to make that any child that has not even finished 1 semester of high school is in the top two percent of academics. Explain to me how that is measured. Tell me how - a standardized placement test? If that's the case we can do away with the SATs, ACTs, etc. - let's go straight to Princeton.

Are you kidding. If you have ever been around or have a child that is gifted teachers know. There are programs like STEM that my 11th grader was fast tracked for in 5th grade. Also there are programs and school for kids of exceptional intelligence. These kids are among us and actually are fully capable of blending in without others know. Unlike many parents of kids who are athletes these parents arent decked out in gear screaming that their child is off the charts smart.

Here is some info about LISG where my kid went when at a young age he was well beyond his peers when it came to schooling.

The Long Island School for the Gifted (LISG), located in South Huntington, New [lacrosse], is a unique and exciting school for grades Pre-K - 9. We are a community dedicated to providing an outstanding education for academically gifted children where they are nurtured and treasured.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a ridiculous claim to make that any child that has not even finished 1 semester of high school is in the top two percent of academics. Explain to me how that is measured. Tell me how - a standardized placement test? If that's the case we can do away with the SATs, ACTs, etc. - let's go straight to Princeton.

As I stated earlier I know the family very well. This young man is on that level.

sounds like the dad talking here..otherwise who would care to weigh in on how well they know someone and what a great student they are..cmon', come clean Dad..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like the dad talking here..otherwise who would care to weigh in on how well they know someone and what a great student they are..cmon', come clean Dad..

Guy's I am the moderator and no I am not the young man's parent. As for the previous post about LISG it's not a parent either. Yet again let it rest. Kid is a great kid, from a great family.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like the dad talking here..otherwise who would care to weigh in on how well they know someone and what a great student they are..cmon', come clean Dad..

Grasping at straws? Why does it bother you so damn much?

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like the dad talking here..otherwise who would care to weigh in on how well they know someone and what a great student they are..cmon', come clean Dad..

Guy's I am the moderator and no I am not the young man's parent. As for the previous post about LISG it's not a parent either. Yet again let it rest. Kid is a great kid, from a great family.

How on earth do you know its not a parent who wrote about the LISG comment?

Congratulations, Holdback or no holdback, the parents did right by the boy. He has a commitment with Princeton. He has the opportunity of a lifetime ahead of him with or without lacrosse. How could any parent criticize this on any level?

"2020 Crush LSM/FOGO to Princeton"

Man the resentment arising from this comment is seething in here

. Unreal

Congrats to this kid and his family

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"2020 Crush LSM/FOGO to Princeton"

Man the resentment arising from this comment is seething in here

. Unreal

Congrats to this kid and his family

Deserving young man receives great opportunity...forum trolls lose their minds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"2020 Crush LSM/FOGO to Princeton"

Man the resentment arising from this comment is seething in here

. Unreal

Congrats to this kid and his family

Yep, there exists in every area, a few parents that hate to see anyone achieve success. Its sad but its everywhere. If you noticed the kids instragrams comments, every kid from every teams across east coast congratulate kids when they commit. Then we get those parents, that just resent it. We have them on Long Island, in Philly and Baltimore. There are so many grown ups that can not stand to see good things happen to other kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like the dad talking here..otherwise who would care to weigh in on how well they know someone and what a great student they are..cmon', come clean Dad..

Guy's I am the moderator and no I am not the young man's parent. As for the previous post about LISG it's not a parent either. Yet again let it rest. Kid is a great kid, from a great family.

How on earth do you know its not a parent who wrote about the LISG comment?

Because I know who wrote it. As a moderator we have certain abilities to see who what and where things are coming from. Like I know how most of this stuff was started by a Maryland parent.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like the dad talking here..otherwise who would care to weigh in on how well they know someone and what a great student they are..cmon', come clean Dad..

Guy's I am the moderator and no I am not the young man's parent. As for the previous post about LISG it's not a parent either. Yet again let it rest. Kid is a great kid, from a great family.

How on earth do you know its not a parent who wrote about the LISG comment?

Because I know who wrote it. As a moderator we have certain abilities to see who what and where things are coming from. Like I know how most of this stuff was started by a Maryland parent.

So you have certain abilities to stir the pot as well. Hmmmm interesting. New spin on anonymity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like the dad talking here..otherwise who would care to weigh in on how well they know someone and what a great student they are..cmon', come clean Dad..

Guy's I am the moderator and no I am not the young man's parent. As for the previous post about LISG it's not a parent either. Yet again let it rest. Kid is a great kid, from a great family.

How on earth do you know its not a parent who wrote about the LISG comment?

Because I know who wrote it. As a moderator we have certain abilities to see who what and where things are coming from. Like I know how most of this stuff was started by a Maryland parent.

So you have certain abilities to stir the pot as well. Hmmmm interesting. New spin on anonymity.

Why would I look to hurt or attack anyone on this site as a moderator. I became involved with the site a few years back when there was a rouge moderator that allowed for kids to be attacked on an everyday basis. They are gone FYI. The anonymity of the internet or the perceived anonymity gives people a false sense of security that what they post will not come back to them. Well thats 100% incorrect. Its funny to see parents whos kids are teammates or once were teammates and friends of kids posting crap. I will always look out for the best interest of the kids as best I can.

The problem is not the kid, his parents, his qualifications, his abilities, etc. The problem is that early recruiting is out of control. The Ivy league sends out a press release saying they are against early recruiting and within day we have the earliest commit ever to Princeton. I'm sorry - there are 12th graders with 4.0+ GPAs and perfect SAT scores that may not get into Princeton - but they are going to provide a verbal commitment to a 14 year old? You can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is not the kid, his parents, his qualifications, his abilities, etc. The problem is that early recruiting is out of control. The Ivy league sends out a press release saying they are against early recruiting and within day we have the earliest commit ever to Princeton. I'm sorry - there are 12th graders with 4.0+ GPAs and perfect SAT scores that may not get into Princeton - but they are going to provide a verbal commitment to a 14 year old? You can't have it both ways.

Why so much heartburn about early recruiting? Does not really impact my kid if another kid commits early.

Afraid that all the good spots will be taken? If your kid's not getting noticed in his peer group now, will probably be pretty much the same (for most) in 2-3 years.

How can a 9th grader know what he wants in a college? If the kid is getting a foot in the door at Hopkins or Duke or Notre dame, or Princeton, I have a hard time seeing a downside.

I don't think anyone here would say "no thanks" if any of those schools came knocking for their 9th grader.

You said it yourself it's a verbal. Kid has to keep up his part. There are players playing at Top Academic football programs who can barely read or write a difference your worried about a non funded Ivy League School. This is all college sports not just lacrosse.

I seriously doubt there are any football players at Duke, Notre Dame and Stanford who cant read or write.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is not the kid, his parents, his qualifications, his abilities, etc. The problem is that early recruiting is out of control. The Ivy league sends out a press release saying they are against early recruiting and within day we have the earliest commit ever to Princeton. I'm sorry - there are 12th graders with 4.0+ GPAs and perfect SAT scores that may not get into Princeton - but they are going to provide a verbal commitment to a 14 year old? You can't have it both ways.

Why so much heartburn about early recruiting? Does not really impact my kid if another kid commits early.

Afraid that all the good spots will be taken? If your kid's not getting noticed in his peer group now, will probably be pretty much the same (for most) in 2-3 years.

How can a 9th grader know what he wants in a college? If the kid is getting a foot in the door at Hopkins or Duke or Notre dame, or Princeton, I have a hard time seeing a downside.

I don't think anyone here would say "no thanks" if any of those schools came knocking for their 9th grader.

You answered your own question - "How can a 9th grader know what he wants in a college?" In addition to that, it pushes all of the elements of recruiting - including the associated stresses - down to younger and younger kids. And that, in turn, encourages players and parents to game that system and/or get caught up in it. Personally, I don't think a college should be able to make contact with a student athlete until they hit their junior year. There's very little good that comes of early recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I seriously doubt there are any football players at Duke, Notre Dame and Stanford who cant read or write.

I was being facetious. It was just a point. There are plenty of fully funded sports that make exceptions to the admissions processes for their athletes. This is not and will not be the case for this student athlete that everyone is hemming and hawing over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is not the kid, his parents, his qualifications, his abilities, etc. The problem is that early recruiting is out of control. The Ivy league sends out a press release saying they are against early recruiting and within day we have the earliest commit ever to Princeton. I'm sorry - there are 12th graders with 4.0+ GPAs and perfect SAT scores that may not get into Princeton - but they are going to provide a verbal commitment to a 14 year old? You can't have it both ways.

Why so much heartburn about early recruiting? Does not really impact my kid if another kid commits early.

Afraid that all the good spots will be taken? If your kid's not getting noticed in his peer group now, will probably be pretty much the same (for most) in 2-3 years.

How can a 9th grader know what he wants in a college? If the kid is getting a foot in the door at Hopkins or Duke or Notre dame, or Princeton, I have a hard time seeing a downside.

I don't think anyone here would say "no thanks" if any of those schools came knocking for their 9th grader.

You answered your own question - "How can a 9th grader know what he wants in a college?" In addition to that, it pushes all of the elements of recruiting - including the associated stresses - down to younger and younger kids. And that, in turn, encourages players and parents to game that system and/or get caught up in it. Personally, I don't think a college should be able to make contact with a student athlete until they hit their junior year. There's very little good that comes of early recruiting.

I was not asking that, just stating one if the common arguments against. Early recruiting to elite colleges #firstworldproblems

I live in the first world. Early recruiting is a problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in the first world. Early recruiting is a problem.

A problem for whom? Don't think it's a problem for the kids getting recruited, I don't hear any of them complaining.

The schools? I think those huge institutions, with tens of thousands of students and multi-billion dollar endowments will be ok if they take bets on a handful of kids each year.

So who then?

People who's kids can't get recruited early Hate early recruiting Comical

The only people who should worry about early recruits are the coaches of the team. People forget its the coaches job to win games and do the best they can to help the young men in their program. More than ever before coaches are under pressure to win. You dont win now its bye bye. It was very evident over this summer with the coaching carousel that was presented. Coaches take calculated risks on these young players. Will they pan out into the player that the coach hopes they will. Will they stay committed to that program. We have seen a lot of players switch commitments Junior and Senior years in high school that were early recruits. Often is it due to not meeting the grades or a few down years at the program they committed to early. It also could be because the player just doesnt like the school or coach anymore. There is no formula. Coaches have had their hand forced into early recruiting because many of the top programs did it and were successful. Issue is how many cant miss kids are they in each class that can be predicted in 9th grade. Its really a handful. Coaches hope they can catch lightning in a bottle with an early recruit. Yet please dont forget these coaches have their job on the line.

Originally Posted by America's Game

The only people who should worry about early recruits are the coaches of the team. People forget its the coaches job to win games and do the best they can to help the young men in their program. More than ever before coaches are under pressure to win. You dont win now its bye bye. It was very evident over this summer with the coaching carousel that was presented. Coaches take calculated risks on these young players. Will they pan out into the player that the coach hopes they will. Will they stay committed to that program. We have seen a lot of players switch commitments Junior and Senior years in high school that were early recruits. Often is it due to not meeting the grades or a few down years at the program they committed to early. It also could be because the player just doesnt like the school or coach anymore. There is no formula. Coaches have had their hand forced into early recruiting because many of the top programs did it and were successful. Issue is how many cant miss kids are they in each class that can be predicted in 9th grade. Its really a handful. Coaches hope they can catch lightning in a bottle with an early recruit. Yet please dont forget these coaches have their job on the line.

Good point, and a perspective that many (including me) probably had not considered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in the first world. Early recruiting is a problem.

A problem for whom? Don't think it's a problem for the kids getting recruited, I don't hear any of them complaining.

The schools? I think those huge institutions, with tens of thousands of students and multi-billion dollar endowments will be ok if they take bets on a handful of kids each year.

So who then?

If you don't think it is a problem for the kids that are getting recruited, then you have spoken to the wrong parents (whose kids have been forced into this situation). The kids are too young to make this important decision, they have no idea what they are really committing to, and it puts them under an extreme amount of pressure every time they step onto the field. The kids are the only ones being hurt and there is NO reason that this needs to be happening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in the first world. Early recruiting is a problem.

A problem for whom? Don't think it's a problem for the kids getting recruited, I don't hear any of them complaining.

The schools? I think those huge institutions, with tens of thousands of students and multi-billion dollar endowments will be ok if they take bets on a handful of kids each year.

So who then?

If you don't think it is a problem for the kids that are getting recruited, then you have spoken to the wrong parents (whose kids have been forced into this situation). The kids are too young to make this important decision, they have no idea what they are really committing to, and it puts them under an extreme amount of pressure every time they step onto the field. The kids are the only ones being hurt and there is NO reason that this needs to be happening.

How could anyone be "forced" into this situation - we're not talking about human trafficking. One could argue, and I will, that removing the stress of navigating the admissions process, to multiple schools, frees up a kid for more productive endeavors - kind of like FastPass® for college.

Please show me the kid who regrets going to Duke or UNC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in the first world. Early recruiting is a problem.

A problem for whom? Don't think it's a problem for the kids getting recruited, I don't hear any of them complaining.

The schools? I think those huge institutions, with tens of thousands of students and multi-billion dollar endowments will be ok if they take bets on a handful of kids each year.

So who then?

If you don't think it is a problem for the kids that are getting recruited, then you have spoken to the wrong parents (whose kids have been forced into this situation). The kids are too young to make this important decision, they have no idea what they are really committing to, and it puts them under an extreme amount of pressure every time they step onto the field. The kids are the only ones being hurt and there is NO reason that this needs to be happening.

Travel sports have become a pressure cooker for kids. Its a shame but thats the nature of the beast. I think your forgetting one vital component. Parents are 100% involved in the process. Do you think a parent is not looking out for their childs best interest. I am sure that a parent is doing everything in their power to make sure their child has the best opportunity in life. You are making it sound as if its Lord of the Flies and kids are on their own. Thats not the case and the parents of early commits to top academic programs have done their homework.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in the first world. Early recruiting is a problem.

A problem for whom? Don't think it's a problem for the kids getting recruited, I don't hear any of them complaining.

The schools? I think those huge institutions, with tens of thousands of students and multi-billion dollar endowments will be ok if they take bets on a handful of kids each year.

So who then?

If you don't think it is a problem for the kids that are getting recruited, then you have spoken to the wrong parents (whose kids have been forced into this situation). The kids are too young to make this important decision, they have no idea what they are really committing to, and it puts them under an extreme amount of pressure every time they step onto the field. The kids are the only ones being hurt and there is NO reason that this needs to be happening.

Travel sports have become a pressure cooker for kids. Its a shame but thats the nature of the beast. I think your forgetting one vital component. Parents are 100% involved in the process. Do you think a parent is not looking out for their childs best interest. I am sure that a parent is doing everything in their power to make sure their child has the best opportunity in life. You are making it sound as if its Lord of the Flies and kids are on their own. Thats not the case and the parents of early commits to top academic programs have done their homework.

The parents feel pressure too, and it doesn't have to be this way. The parents do like it one bit. There is no reason this needs to be happening in 9th grade (or even before) no reason.

Are there any teams looking for players in the Western Suffolk area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any teams looking for players in the Western Suffolk area.

Try Outlaws

come one, come all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any teams looking for players in the Western Suffolk area.

Try Outlaws

Received and E-mail from BOC earlier this afternoon that they still had spots open . . .!

Visor dad has spoken!

Visor/belly dad coaching from the sideline...complaining about the man up, the offense, the clears because he knew best when he was PAL coach... get a life.

Belly Dad too? how come he gets all the cool nicknames?

Let me get this straight....... You have already gotten a 14 year old kid that has done nothing wrong kicked off a team he loved to play for yet the comments keep coming. You should be very proud of yourselves.

Let me get this straight....... You have already gotten a 14 year old kid that has done nothing wrong kicked off his team yet the comments keep coming. You should be very proud of yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Visor dad has spoken!

What town is visor dad from?

I'm a lacrosse parent and I have yet to see a team that doesn't have multiple parents complaining; that's youth sports. What's much more annoying is people like you, who would not be adult enough to voice your concern publicly, but would hide behind the anonymity of this website to attack. You're the guy who is all smiles on the sideline, likely kissing the coaches butts, but tearing everyone apart behind the scenes. Give me a complainer over a spineless coward like you any day.

is there an actual person "Visor Dad"? thought this was a general term for a type of parent? Does this person know they are called Visor dad? you guys are all nuts, and i hope to have a drink with you in 10 years and listen to you compare your sons jobs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in the first world. Early recruiting is a problem.

A problem for whom? Don't think it's a problem for the kids getting recruited, I don't hear any of them complaining.

The schools? I think those huge institutions, with tens of thousands of students and multi-billion dollar endowments will be ok if they take bets on a handful of kids each year.

So who then?

If you don't think it is a problem for the kids that are getting recruited, then you have spoken to the wrong parents (whose kids have been forced into this situation). The kids are too young to make this important decision, they have no idea what they are really committing to, and it puts them under an extreme amount of pressure every time they step onto the field. The kids are the only ones being hurt and there is NO reason that this needs to be happening.

Travel sports have become a pressure cooker for kids. Its a shame but thats the nature of the beast. I think your forgetting one vital component. Parents are 100% involved in the process. Do you think a parent is not looking out for their childs best interest. I am sure that a parent is doing everything in their power to make sure their child has the best opportunity in life. You are making it sound as if its Lord of the Flies and kids are on their own. Thats not the case and the parents of early commits to top academic programs have done their homework.

The parents feel pressure too, and it doesn't have to be this way. The parents do like it one bit. There is no reason this needs to be happening in 9th grade (or even before) no reason.

Victims of their own success? Let's be honest, kids and parents know that if they are playing on top teams, going to top recruiting tournaments, and training and working as hard as they can to be a top player, then recruiting attention will come. How many families would say "I want my kid to play at the top of the age group, but we are going with a second level team and tournaments to avoid the recruiting fiasco."?

I thought visor/belly dad was the omnipresent figure on all teams... did not realize it was a specific guy either... if he in fact is he's garnered a lot of air time over the pages and years of botc

is visor and belly dad also croc dad?

Anyone give me advice on 2020 team 91?
Coaching
Team chemistry

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone give me advice on 2020 team 91?
Coaching
Team chemistry

So you're thinking of having your son go play there next? They are always looking for new kids, I'm sure they'll make room for him.

Looking forward to fall tournaments, but already sick of prospect days. I just want to yell out "pass the f@#%ing ball"

[quote=Anonymous]Looking forward to fall tournaments, but already sick of prospect days. I just want to yell out "pass the f@#%ing ball"

Prospect days are nothing more than a way for college programs to supplement the income of under paid assistant coaches. Its a known fact. General invites are sent from tournament roster lists to fill most prospect days with numbers to pad the income. If your kid is truly being looked at and under consideration from a specific school/coach, you will be contacted directly thru a club or HS school coach contact. If not, save your money and don't put your hopes and dreams into prospect days.

You couldn't be more wrong re: Prospect Days. It is true that they are a way to pay the asst coaches. However, many kids get discovered at prospect days that are not on a schools radar. I know 2 kids that got recruited because of a performance at prospect day's and these kids were not on the schools radar prior to the prospect day. A good performance at a prospect day is worth it's weight in gold.

[quote=Anonymous]You couldn't be more wrong re: Prospect Days. It is true that they are a way to pay the asst coaches. However, many kids get discovered at prospect days that are not on a schools radar. I know 2 kids that got recruited because of a performance at prospect day's and these kids were not on the schools radar prior to the prospect day. A good performance at a prospect day is worth it's weight in gold.

You're wrong. OK, you the know the 2 out of 350 who were recruited from a prospect day. Congrats. Save your money

It works the other way too. My son did not like one of the coaches and the feel at a prospect day and took that school off his list. The days do give the coach a full day to see get a better feel for the player as well. Are they picking their teams solely from the prospect day, of course not, but you play well and its great specific exposure.

If you are the top kid at your position they will call you back it is a no brainer these PROSPECT DAYS .... That being said go to the ones that your son is interested and narrow your school search down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]You couldn't be more wrong re: Prospect Days. It is true that they are a way to pay the asst coaches. However, many kids get discovered at prospect days that are not on a schools radar. I know 2 kids that got recruited because of a performance at prospect day's and these kids were not on the schools radar prior to the prospect day. A good performance at a prospect day is worth it's weight in gold.

You're wrong. OK, you the know the 2 out of 350 who were recruited from a prospect day. Congrats. Save your money

350 at a prospect day ? How many have u been to ?

Prospect days are all of the above
A money grab
a great way for you to see the coaches and how they intermingle
A great way to get in front of the coach and HOPEFULLY catch his attention. if you are not on their radar

And many coaches want you on the campus, I would venture a guess that at many schools 10 to maybe 25% went to some sort of prospect day on that campus. That wasnt where they were first recognized but they participated in some sort of event

But for those sayig they are a money grab, I see them as being just as good as a good clinic and to me well worth the money. one mans opinion

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Prospect days are all of the above
A money grab
a great way for you to see the coaches and how they intermingle
A great way to get in front of the coach and HOPEFULLY catch his attention. if you are not on their radar

And many coaches want you on the campus, I would venture a guess that at many schools 10 to maybe 25% went to some sort of prospect day on that campus. That wasnt where they were first recognized but they participated in some sort of event

But for those sayig they are a money grab, I see them as being just as good as a good clinic and to me well worth the money. one mans opinion

I agree. But it still would be nice if kids knew that being a ball hog and forcing a play does not help them catch anyone's attention in a good way. Showcasing your skills should not equal bad lacrosse.

DELETED playing in next tournament? Would love to see what all the chatter is about.

I know a lot of kids who play D1 lacrosse, not one of them made a team because of a prospect day. The majority of them made it because of an Alumni recommendation to the coach. I am sure their are prospect day kids on the team, but there are other factors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a lot of kids who play D1 lacrosse, not one of them made a team because of a prospect day. The majority of them made it because of an Alumni recommendation to the coach. I am sure their are prospect day kids on the team, but there are other factors.

Bravo for your dopey post. Best way to get on a D1 team is to know an alumni?

My kid is a C team player but I went to Notre Dame so I guess he should be all set.

Why is everyone's kid looking to go to D1 on this site. All you hear is D1, D1, D1. Holy crap. How about sharing info that may help parents and players to educate themselves on certain topics or good D2 or D3 schools. You don't have to be ashamed to mention the others. Who cares as long as �e kid plays lax in a good school that has academics that they are looking for, them that's all that should matter. They are not going anywhere after college with the sport anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is everyone's kid looking to go to D1 on this site. All you hear is D1, D1, D1. Holy crap. How about sharing info that may help parents and players to educate themselves on certain topics or good D2 or D3 schools. You don't have to be ashamed to mention the others. Who cares as long as �e kid plays lax in a good school that has academics that they are looking for, them that's all that should matter. They are not going anywhere after college with the sport anyway.

I'm not ashamed at all. My son is looking at D3 schools. His main focus is NOT lax when it comes to college. It's getting a degree worth something, so he has decided a D3 program will give him more time for what he is really going to college for. His love for lacrosse isn't going to pay the bills.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is everyone's kid looking to go to D1 on this site. All you hear is D1, D1, D1. Holy crap. How about sharing info that may help parents and players to educate themselves on certain topics or good D2 or D3 schools. You don't have to be ashamed to mention the others. Who cares as long as �e kid plays lax in a good school that has academics that they are looking for, them that's all that should matter. They are not going anywhere after college with the sport anyway.

I will tell you why, egos...
I want my kids to pick at college that will fit them as a student and person, if they can play a sport, great, if not, well then they play intramurals or club. College years are the best years of your life and feeling like a sport is a "job" might be great for some, but I have to say, unless the kid is totally into it, they will hate it. And, there is no way any 9th grader out there really knows what playing a sport in college means. I feel really bad for the kids (parents) that are swept up in the "my only goal is to play D 1 lacrosse", I hope if works out, but I will bet more kids will have terrible experiences than not. sad really

As parents, we have a responsibility to help guide (not run) their future. If D1, or otherwise, it's important to pick a school that is a good fit academically, size, culture, etc. Playing lacrosse is not obligatory. Having said that, I would like my son to play because it makes good students better students. For many of these kids it will be the first time away from home for an extended period of time. This new found freedom, left unchecked, could lead to bad behavior (even if your son is generally a good kid). By playing a sport he gains a network of friends and has an obligation to the team which will deter (not necessarily prevent) him from doing something dumb. He can still have fun but will not be able to party as much as a kid that doesn't play a sport. Lastly, it is a job, albeit a fun one, so he will have to manage his time accordingly to ensure he maintains his grades which is the real reason he is going to school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is everyone's kid looking to go to D1 on this site. All you hear is D1, D1, D1. Holy crap. How about sharing info that may help parents and players to educate themselves on certain topics or good D2 or D3 schools. You don't have to be ashamed to mention the others. Who cares as long as �e kid plays lax in a good school that has academics that they are looking for, them that's all that should matter. They are not going anywhere after college with the sport anyway.

I will tell you why, egos...
I want my kids to pick at college that will fit them as a student and person, if they can play a sport, great, if not, well then they play intramurals or club. College years are the best years of your life and feeling like a sport is a "job" might be great for some, but I have to say, unless the kid is totally into it, they will hate it. And, there is no way any 9th grader out there really knows what playing a sport in college means. I feel really bad for the kids (parents) that are swept up in the "my only goal is to play D 1 lacrosse", I hope if works out, but I will bet more kids will have terrible experiences than not. sad really

Most HS upper classmen won't have a clue about what it means to play an NCAA sport, particulalry at the D1 level. Even if they've been told about what it involves, until they've lived it coupled with all of the other experiences that come with newly being in college, most really have zero clue. Just the intensity and competitiveness alone will be a shock to them!

Hey domer --- the next time you can talk is when your football team is over .500 ... unitl you can beat NC State zip it! thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey domer --- the next time you can talk is when your football team is over .500 ... unitl you can beat NC State zip it! thanks.

What is this supposed to mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come this so called 'great' 91 player hasn't commit yet? Don't try and target kids.

That statement speaks for itself

I ask that people don't mention kids please. I will delete posts.

If ranking teams on LI bull nation is now up there considering they beat igloo today who beat taz

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If ranking teams on LI bull nation is now up there considering they beat igloo today who beat taz

3,500 to play on a team that can't beat a town team?

Would like to see Bull Nation play Taz.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be more wrong re: Prospect Days. It is true that they are a way to pay the asst coaches. However, many kids get discovered at prospect days that are not on a schools radar. I know 2 kids that got recruited because of a performance at prospect day's and these kids were not on the schools radar prior to the prospect day. A good performance at a prospect day is worth it's weight in gold.

Agree. It is a great way for the coaches to see kids they are interested in. Coaches often see a kid play at a tournament and invite the kid to a prospect day to see them in a different environment.

I have taken my boys to several prospect days. Some are better than others. It's well worth doing if your kid is interested in that particular school. Otherwise - probably not. One thing is certain - each coach will make fun of Little baby Ty Ty Xanders and recruiting rundown. Bet on it...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be more wrong re: Prospect Days. It is true that they are a way to pay the asst coaches. However, many kids get discovered at prospect days that are not on a schools radar. I know 2 kids that got recruited because of a performance at prospect day's and these kids were not on the schools radar prior to the prospect day. A good performance at a prospect day is worth it's weight in gold.

Agree. It is a great way for the coaches to see kids they are interested in. Coaches often see a kid play at a tournament and invite the kid to a prospect day to see them in a different environment.

Whole different story if you are personally invited to a prospect day. That means you are already on their radar. It is a long shot, at a minimum, if you show up as a complete unknown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If ranking teams on LI bull nation is now up there considering they beat igloo today who beat taz

3,500 to play on a team that can't beat a town team?

Kind of suggests that the whole travel team hype is just that. Refreshing! Unfortunately this matchup won't happen, but the lesson is that a good pick up team can be better than a $$$$ travel team. Everyone wins except the greedy travel team directors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If ranking teams on LI bull nation is now up there considering they beat igloo today who beat taz

3,500 to play on a team that can't beat a town team?

Kind of suggests that the whole travel team hype is just that. Refreshing! Unfortunately this matchup won't happen, but the lesson is that a good pick up team can be better than a $$$$ travel team. Everyone wins except the greedy travel team directors

No it does not. Every kid on Bull Nation plays travel.

WHO Cares !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just keep working hard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If ranking teams on LI bull nation is now up there considering they beat igloo today who beat taz

3,500 to play on a team that can't beat a town team?

Kind of suggests that the whole travel team hype is just that. Refreshing! Unfortunately this matchup won't happen, but the lesson is that a good pick up team can be better than a $$$$ travel team. Everyone wins except the greedy travel team directors

No it does not. Every kid on Bull Nation plays travel.

quite a few don't actually!

Was at least 10 outlaws on team

I know the Bull Nation team. My sons friends play for them. They are majority Smithtown boys, some play travel, some don't. there are a handful of other boys that are friends with them that have joined the team. They have been playing together for years as a core group. Just a group of boys who love to play with each other and work hard as a team. And, oddly enough, actually have fun doing it. Go figure. That's why they are becoming one of the top teams on LI.

No LI town team is beating Manhsset, so keep pulling your two high schools together and adding some "friends" neighboring towns or club teams and trying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No LI town team is beating Manhsset, so keep pulling your two high schools together and adding some "friends" neighboring towns or club teams and trying.

Good luck with that, you can't even spell your towns name correctly!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No LI town team is beating Manhsset, so keep pulling your two high schools together and adding some "friends" neighboring towns or club teams and trying.

You mean Manhasset with Port add ins.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at least 10 outlaws on team

More like 5, with 3 being from Smithtown

CSH might have something to say about the outcome of a game with manhasset...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH might have something to say about the outcome of a game with manhasset...

Cat Fight.....

Bonn bailed on Manhasset this year

Does Manhasset really need to pull kids in from Port? Get real.

He did, in a show of support of your old coach. And that is the ONLY reason. Most are not happy about it but understand his decision for this year. Was discussing class of '20 though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Manhasset really need to pull kids in from Port? Get real.

They have in the past

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He did, in a show of support of your old coach. And that is the ONLY reason. Most are not happy about it but understand his decision for this year. Was discussing class of '20 though.

Understand his decision? Really? Old coach and new coach good friends. While I'm sure old coach appreciates gesture, no way he let's a break in tradition happen for new coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be more wrong re: Prospect Days. It is true that they are a way to pay the asst coaches. However, many kids get discovered at prospect days that are not on a schools radar. I know 2 kids that got recruited because of a performance at prospect day's and these kids were not on the schools radar prior to the prospect day. A good performance at a prospect day is worth it's weight in gold.

Agree. It is a great way for the coaches to see kids they are interested in. Coaches often see a kid play at a tournament and invite the kid to a prospect day to see them in a different environment.

Whole different story if you are personally invited to a prospect day. That means you are already on their radar. It is a long shot, at a minimum, if you show up as a complete unknown.

love the reclassed kid who shows up a few weeks ago and keeps demolished. amybe reclass another year, heard it is the rage.

When did Bull Nation beat Taz?

You guys talk a lot considering the best 2020 teams are from the Mid Atlantic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When did Bull Nation beat Taz?

There are 3 Taz players on Bull Nation. They would probably be better off staying with BN for a quarter of the price! Would be an interesting match up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be more wrong re: Prospect Days. It is true that they are a way to pay the asst coaches. However, many kids get discovered at prospect days that are not on a schools radar. I know 2 kids that got recruited because of a performance at prospect day's and these kids were not on the schools radar prior to the prospect day. A good performance at a prospect day is worth it's weight in gold.

Agree. It is a great way for the coaches to see kids they are interested in. Coaches often see a kid play at a tournament and invite the kid to a prospect day to see them in a different environment.

Whole different story if you are personally invited to a prospect day. That means you are already on their radar. It is a long shot, at a minimum, if you show up as a complete unknown.

love the reclassed kid who shows up a few weeks ago and keeps demolished. amybe reclass another year, heard it is the rage.

It's called Karma! I don't usually secretly wish that a kid falls on their [lacrosse]....but, in the case of the holdbacks, they are asking for it! Shame on the parents for putting their kid in this position. Clearly they think they are helping, setting up deals to ensure success. I love to hear the stories of where it backfires, it's on you Lax Dad for not playing by the rules! Triple holdback perhaps?

Don't think Bull Nation ever played TAZ. But if the three taz kids play on Bull Nation, and Bull Nation has their full team, Bull Nation is better team after seeing them beat Igloo. I hear three of Bull Nations top players could not play with them this weekend ND they still won.

Ok, this bull nation bs is all coming from a delusional parent or coach on the team. Please stop. Average team at best that won a b level tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, this bull nation bs is all coming from a delusional parent or coach on the team. Please stop. Average team at best that won a b level tourney.

What's the matter, are you mad that your team is not being discussed? Don't worry we will be talking about the whippin your team gets in a few weeks when you are off to play the MD holdbacks. Then we will hear you crying that life's not fair. Bull Nation can compete with any team on LI. 9th grade is where we see big changes in the boys B team players emerge as A teamers and many of those dominate in Middle School begin to slip. Unless your team is Crush, of course!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Manhasset really need to pull kids in from Port? Get real.

What's the problem? You add Port kids you get Visor Dad.

It is a win-win.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, this bull nation bs is all coming from a delusional parent or coach on the team. Please stop. Average team at best that won a b level tourney.

What's the matter, are you mad that your team is not being discussed? Don't worry we will be talking about the whippin your team gets in a few weeks when you are off to play the MD holdbacks. Then we will hear you crying that life's not fair. Bull Nation can compete with any team on LI. 9th grade is where we see big changes in the boys B team players emerge as A teamers and many of those dominate in Middle School begin to slip. Unless your team is Crush, of course!

hahaha, yeah i hope thee wernt any of those same bulls players that played in the supposed 2021 world series of lacrosse.. Oh i mean 2020 eligible world series of lacrosse series. Last year, I seem to remember a really good group of 2020 kids joining forces with some older friends and taking any comers. Those were some 2020's. challenging themselves upwards and onwards not backwards.

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
"He did, in a show of support of your old coach. And that is the ONLY reason. Most are not happy about it but understand his decision for this year. Was discussing class of '20 though."

"Understand his decision? Really? Old coach and new coach good friends. While I'm sure old coach appreciates gesture, no way he let's a break in tradition happen for new coach."

Guy, let it go, you are speaking out of your azz and do not know what you are talking about. Yes, old and new coach get along and yes, DB and KC are friendly and we in CSH wish KC the best of luck and like him. It's not a matter of either of the coaches from 'Set "letting it happen". I'm sure rivalry will ensue again in '18. These teams for three decades played three times a year being in the same division with the third time usually deciding the County champion... One year show of coaching solidarity and some form of protest vs Manhasset admin for coaches firing. Keep in mind who last Manhasset AD was and where he came from as well.

ANYONE ATTENDING THIS IGLOO SHOWCASE???? LOOKS LIKE A REAL WINNER WITH THE TIMES TA HAS FOR THE 2020 GROUP .....

Shill. Move on.

2021s have great time slots...wonder why! Money grab especially for 2022s

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
"He did, in a show of support of your old coach. And that is the ONLY reason. Most are not happy about it but understand his decision for this year. Was discussing class of '20 though."

"Understand his decision? Really? Old coach and new coach good friends. While I'm sure old coach appreciates gesture, no way he let's a break in tradition happen for new coach."

Guy, let it go, you are speaking out of your azz and do not know what you are talking about. Yes, old and new coach get along and yes, DB and KC are friendly and we in CSH wish KC the best of luck and like him. It's not a matter of either of the coaches from 'Set "letting it happen". I'm sure rivalry will ensue again in '18. These teams for three decades played three times a year being in the same division with the third time usually deciding the County champion... One year show of coaching solidarity and some form of protest vs Manhasset admin for coaches firing. Keep in mind who last Manhasset AD was and where he came from as well.

Merely suggesting old coach wouldn't let a cowardly move of bailing on such a tradition is talking out of azz? I guess the AD never helped DB when waters got a little rough either? Oh, and by the way, your little cowardly move of bailing on the rivalry only hurts the kids, nothing more. Go justify it somewhere else.

Another Visor Dad reference - what Manhasset team takes kids from Port Washington?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
"He did, in a show of support of your old coach. And that is the ONLY reason. Most are not happy about it but understand his decision for this year. Was discussing class of '20 though."

"Understand his decision? Really? Old coach and new coach good friends. While I'm sure old coach appreciates gesture, no way he let's a break in tradition happen for new coach."

Guy, let it go, you are speaking out of your azz and do not know what you are talking about. Yes, old and new coach get along and yes, DB and KC are friendly and we in CSH wish KC the best of luck and like him. It's not a matter of either of the coaches from 'Set "letting it happen". I'm sure rivalry will ensue again in '18. These teams for three decades played three times a year being in the same division with the third time usually deciding the County champion... One year show of coaching solidarity and some form of protest vs Manhasset admin for coaches firing. Keep in mind who last Manhasset AD was and where he came from as well.

What am I missing in this discussion? KC was @ LV last year . . .

I visor dad a port kid? I thought Visor dad was from Set

Old coach and new coash don't get along like the prior post seemed to indicate. In fact a few years ago, new coach left and wasn't coming back until old coach was gone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
"He did, in a show of support of your old coach. And that is the ONLY reason. Most are not happy about it but understand his decision for this year. Was discussing class of '20 though."

"Understand his decision? Really? Old coach and new coach good friends. While I'm sure old coach appreciates gesture, no way he let's a break in tradition happen for new coach."

Guy, let it go, you are speaking out of your azz and do not know what you are talking about. Yes, old and new coach get along and yes, DB and KC are friendly and we in CSH wish KC the best of luck and like him. It's not a matter of either of the coaches from 'Set "letting it happen". I'm sure rivalry will ensue again in '18. These teams for three decades played three times a year being in the same division with the third time usually deciding the County champion... One year show of coaching solidarity and some form of protest vs Manhasset admin for coaches firing. Keep in mind who last Manhasset AD was and where he came from as well.

What am I missing in this discussion? KC was @ LV last year . . .

What you are missing is the ultimate in douchebaggery - CSH coach is crapping over the CSH & MHS kids by backing out of long standing rivalry game under the guise of feelings being hurt on how old MHS coach was let go. It may be spun with words like solidarity and protest, but in the end its the kids who lose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
"He did, in a show of support of your old coach. And that is the ONLY reason. Most are not happy about it but understand his decision for this year. Was discussing class of '20 though."

"Understand his decision? Really? Old coach and new coach good friends. While I'm sure old coach appreciates gesture, no way he let's a break in tradition happen for new coach."

Guy, let it go, you are speaking out of your azz and do not know what you are talking about. Yes, old and new coach get along and yes, DB and KC are friendly and we in CSH wish KC the best of luck and like him. It's not a matter of either of the coaches from 'Set "letting it happen". I'm sure rivalry will ensue again in '18. These teams for three decades played three times a year being in the same division with the third time usually deciding the County champion... One year show of coaching solidarity and some form of protest vs Manhasset admin for coaches firing. Keep in mind who last Manhasset AD was and where he came from as well.

What am I missing in this discussion? KC was @ LV last year . . .

What you are missing is the ultimate in douchebaggery - CSH coach is crapping over the CSH & MHS kids by backing out of long standing rivalry game under the guise of feelings being hurt on how old MHS coach was let go. It may be spun with words like solidarity and protest, but in the end its the kids who lose.

Don't get it, not like they are border towns. One is Nassua the other a little bit of both Nassua and Suffolk. Still never get the ole 1 town 2 counties.

Agreed that the kids suffer. I am disappointed we won't have the opportunity to beat Manhasset again this year based on the decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed that the kids suffer. I am disappointed we won't have the opportunity to beat Manhasset again this year based on the decision.

Then get involved and speak to the powers that be in CSH and make it happen

Didn't I read that Manhasset was moving down to C due to enrollment? Not that that brings them back to same conf as CSH in D.

?? all around regarding the above statements. Stop asking your magic 8-ball for the questions you have--it generally spits out the wrong answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

?? all around regarding the above statements. Stop asking your magic 8-ball for the questions you have--it generally spits out the wrong answer.

= snark done badly . . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't I read that Manhasset was moving down to C due to enrollment? Not that that brings them back to same conf as CSH in D.

CSH is not in D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
"He did, in a show of support of your old coach. And that is the ONLY reason. Most are not happy about it but understand his decision for this year. Was discussing class of '20 though."

"Understand his decision? Really? Old coach and new coach good friends. While I'm sure old coach appreciates gesture, no way he let's a break in tradition happen for new coach."

Guy, let it go, you are speaking out of your azz and do not know what you are talking about. Yes, old and new coach get along and yes, DB and KC are friendly and we in CSH wish KC the best of luck and like him. It's not a matter of either of the coaches from 'Set "letting it happen". I'm sure rivalry will ensue again in '18. These teams for three decades played three times a year being in the same division with the third time usually deciding the County champion... One year show of coaching solidarity and some form of protest vs Manhasset admin for coaches firing. Keep in mind who last Manhasset AD was and where he came from as well.

What am I missing in this discussion? KC was @ LV last year . . .

What you are missing is the ultimate in douchebaggery - CSH coach is crapping over the CSH & MHS kids by backing out of long standing rivalry game under the guise of feelings being hurt on how old MHS coach was let go. It may be spun with words like solidarity and protest, but in the end its the kids who lose.

Don't get it, not like they are border towns. One is Nassua the other a little bit of both Nassua and Suffolk. Still never get the ole 1 town 2 counties.

What's to get. The school is physically in Suffolk. 50 years ago it moved to nassau sports. The reson was that to play similar sized schools, they would be on a bus for 60 minutes. While if they played in Nassau they could go to OB, LV, Carle Place, SET, N Shore etc. Get it?

Any one want to attempt a top ten list as we move into November

Makes sense - so it has no purpose here.

Looks like CRUSH is having a hard time putting a team out, JS going to slip down and leave all the others there holding the bag .... NOT A SHOCK !!!!!!!!!

Crush will be playing the November 12,13. As well as 19,20 th.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any one want to attempt a top ten list as we move into November

Doesn't matter anymore in high school. The purpose now is to get kids recruited and even the number 30 team will have potential D1 recruits. If you are sitting the bench on the number 2 team, you can't be seen. If you are a starter on the number 20 team, you have a better chance of being recruited. Playing AA is the key now - not a cameo appearance on a top ten team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will be playing the November 12,13. As well as 19,20 th.

If your kid commits at this age do you continue to let him play travel ball? Assuming he gets the college he wanted?

"Let him"? I think anyone who doesn't let their kid play is out of their mind. Presumably their kids are playing because they like to play and its an activity they enjoy. They are only kids once...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will be playing the November 12,13. As well as 19,20 th.

If your kid commits at this age do you continue to let him play travel ball? Assuming he gets the college he wanted?

Yes still play unless rehabbing a nagging football injury or a major test that Monday. You still need to be challenged these boys are your friends you like the game and you like to play with friends. But if it is a recruiting tournament and the next man up isnt recruited yet you stay home and give him a shot at it.

not a one size fits all answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like CRUSH is having a hard time putting a team out, JS going to slip down and leave all the others there holding the bag .... NOT A SHOCK !!!!!!!!!

Slip down with the holdbacks/doubleholdbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Let him"? I think anyone who doesn't let their kid play is out of their mind. Presumably their kids are playing because they like to play and its an activity they enjoy. They are only kids once...

They play you just manage different in terms of how much and how often. School ball will soon take priority

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Looks like CRUSH is having a hard time putting a team out, JS going to slip down and leave all the others there holding the bag .... NOT A SHOCK !!!!!!!!!

You should hope this happens maybe your team could win one btw which team is he on this year? at some point he will move on I am sure his kid is playing up There has to be something better for you to do then hope and speculate about Crush. For years I have been reading about their demise, has Not happened. Move on enjoy your boy

Clearly some pathetic frustrated Dad here because at this age team success means not much. It is about getting the kids ALL recruited

Keep playing until NLI is signed in November of junior year. then your are committed. Game is far from over at this stage...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep playing until NLI is signed in November of junior year. then your are committed. Game is far from over at this stage...

NLI is signed during senior year

Keep playing, when you get on campus in fall of freshman year you better be ready. Every kids real good, and the conditioning/weigh training they do is ridiculous. Depth charts are made real quick at d 1. I have a Freshman at a top 15 D 1 school. He is loving it , but its 2 full time jobs. Better be prepared physically and mentally

Madlax 2020 is ready for NLF, Big4 and Big 12? Are you guys?

Anyone know good clubs for my son to try out for that don't already have a set team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know good clubs for my son to try out for that don't already have a set team?

Tryouts for "good clubs" are over. They happen at the end of summer. Good luck at this point.

Think Outlaws still looking for one or two kids
Have a Great fall schedule

Yes, come to Mad Lax. We need some more good players to bolster our team to keep up with the rhetoric our one crazy dad keeps spewing. Help!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 is ready for NLF, Big4 and Big 12? Are you guys?

???????????????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Madlax 2020 is ready for NLF, Big4 and Big 12? Are you guys?

???????????????

You are an idiot. We all know that Madlax 2020 is still not close to competing at the NLF level. Adding holdbacks from an eh program such as Episcopal is not going to improve your program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 is ready for NLF, Big4 and Big 12? Are you guys?

I'm glad you're ready. If your recent scrimmage with Next Level where you lost 12-3 is any indication, you'll be in for another fantastic year of lacrosse!!!

Seriously though -- less posting on this forum, more wall ball and skill development. Please.

You GED LI dads are so predictable. All you do is cry about reclassed kids.

We are restocked with new kids and are building chemistry. Can't wait to see your apologies after we play you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You GED LI dads are so predictable. All you do is cry about reclassed kids.

We are restocked with new kids and are building chemistry. Can't wait to see your apologies after we play you.

No GED here, but surely you graduated from Apex tech.. Hopefully things pan out for your double hold back that'll graduate with a History degree at nearly 25... hahahaha

Interesting that Jake Reed tryout and Philly Freshman Showcase are the same weekend.

[quote=Anonymous]Interesting that Jake Reed tryout and Philly Freshman Showcase are the same weekend.

Jake Reed has lost a lot of luster......anybody can attend that pays the bill

Not the summer Jake Reed. The one in the fall is easy to get into.

I am told Philly Freshman Showcase is THE event in terms of recruiting. True/Not true?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am told Philly Freshman Showcase is THE event in terms of recruiting. True/Not true?

Not sure there is a "The" event. Good yes, but not be all end all. You will however see a lot of talent and politics and holdbacks.

That said enjoy the day (or weekend) some good lacrosse. Not sure with the climate of early recruiting if many top players will be in attendance.

very true

Yes #1 Event

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am told Philly Freshman Showcase is THE event in terms of recruiting. True/Not true?

Used to be isn't anymore NLF ran event opposite this for this year. Will still be good but missing many top clubs will hurt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Used to be isn't anymore NLF ran event opposite this for this year. Will still be good but missing many top clubs will hurt

If you look at the list of attendees for Philly Freshman you will see players from NLF teams which would seem to suggest that at least some NLF kids think PFS is better.

Jake Reed is done. Not a prestigious event anymore. Do not waste your time or money on this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am told Philly Freshman Showcase is THE event in terms of recruiting. True/Not true?

Not sure there is a "The" event. Good yes, but not be all end all. You will however see a lot of talent and politics and holdbacks.

That said enjoy the day (or weekend) some good lacrosse. Not sure with the climate of early recruiting if many top players will be in attendance.

Very true. Really top tier players. (funny how many "freshman" drove themselves to that event as seen in the parking lot)

The numbers of coaches attending is impressive. Our club coach's phone was constantly ringing afterwards. Massive surge in contacts from coaches after that event

FWIW, much of the real scrutiny seemed to occur when the players break up into positional training and then the games. The all-star game is a formality at the end of the day and is the typical shooting fest that one would expect.

NLF? That's a joke. This must be fat Crab trying to pad his wallet. There are a slew of kids from NLF teams on the attendee list for Philly. Try again....

True- there are some NLF players listed on PFS list (although only ~9% of total players), but the application deadline was much earlier than for NLF event so wondering if they applied to PFS to hedge bets and will end up in Long Island that weekend instead?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True- there are some NLF players listed on PFS list (although only ~9% of total players), but the application deadline was much earlier than for NLF event so wondering if they applied to PFS to hedge bets and will end up in Long Island that weekend instead?

Maybe I got this wrong but NLF 2020 is Sunday 11/6 in Pottstown, and PFS is 11/19 near Downingtown, PA. Also, NLF teams in attendance for this Sunday ain't no joke.

Sure - whatever. No kid who wants to play in college turns down PFS. If your kid was invited to Philly and is considering not going please let me know so I can let the 15+ kids I know who want to go but can't get in - so they can take his spot.

Fat Crab and his minions saw a way to make money and that is the reason NLF is on the same day. Team USA!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True- there are some NLF players listed on PFS list (although only ~9% of total players), but the application deadline was much earlier than for NLF event so wondering if they applied to PFS to hedge bets and will end up in Long Island that weekend instead?

Maybe I got this wrong but NLF 2020 is Sunday 11/6 in Pottstown, and PFS is 11/19 near Downingtown, PA. Also, NLF teams in attendance for this Sunday ain't no joke.

I believe the discussion is about the individual showcases, which are on the same day (11/19).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True- there are some NLF players listed on PFS list (although only ~9% of total players), but the application deadline was much earlier than for NLF event so wondering if they applied to PFS to hedge bets and will end up in Long Island that weekend instead?

Maybe I got this wrong but NLF 2020 is Sunday 11/6 in Pottstown, and PFS is 11/19 near Downingtown, PA. Also, NLF teams in attendance for this Sunday ain't no joke.

I believe the discussion is about the individual showcases, which are on the same day (11/19).

Ah, for 2020's would be a repeat of NLF Pottstown, but with players filling vacant spots of those at PFS..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure - whatever. No kid who wants to play in college turns down PFS. If your kid was invited to Philly and is considering not going please let me know so I can let the 15+ kids I know who want to go but can't get in - so they can take his spot.

Fat Crab and his minions saw a way to make money and that is the reason NLF is on the same day. Team USA!!!!

Agree. Plenty of kids would love to go to PFS and couldn't get in. Calling BS on the "I got in but decided not to go" routine. Anyone who comes out with that is either (1) full of it; and/or (2) a narcissist who wasted a spot that many others would be happy to have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am told Philly Freshman Showcase is THE event in terms of recruiting. True/Not true?

Not sure there is a "The" event. Good yes, but not be all end all. You will however see a lot of talent and politics and holdbacks.

That said enjoy the day (or weekend) some good lacrosse. Not sure with the climate of early recruiting if many top players will be in attendance.

Very true. Really top tier players. (funny how many "freshman" drove themselves to that event as seen in the parking lot)

The numbers of coaches attending is impressive. Our club coach's phone was constantly ringing afterwards. Massive surge in contacts from coaches after that event

FWIW, much of the real scrutiny seemed to occur when the players break up into positional training and then the games. The all-star game is a formality at the end of the day and is the typical shooting fest that one would expect.

I might buy that it was "top tier" players if the entire NXT team wasn't listed (or the vast Majority of it). No way the entire team are "top tier".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am told Philly Freshman Showcase is THE event in terms of recruiting. True/Not true?

Not sure there is a "The" event. Good yes, but not be all end all. You will however see a lot of talent and politics and holdbacks.

That said enjoy the day (or weekend) some good lacrosse. Not sure with the climate of early recruiting if many top players will be in attendance.

Very true. Really top tier players. (funny how many "freshman" drove themselves to that event as seen in the parking lot)

The numbers of coaches attending is impressive. Our club coach's phone was constantly ringing afterwards. Massive surge in contacts from coaches after that event

FWIW, much of the real scrutiny seemed to occur when the players break up into positional training and then the games. The all-star game is a formality at the end of the day and is the typical shooting fest that one would expect.

I might buy that it was "top tier" players if the entire NXT team wasn't listed (or the vast Majority of it). No way the entire team are "top tier".

The all get automatic entry as part of being on that team. A NXT Perk. Nothing wrong with that. However, 85% of that team are top tier kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure - whatever. No kid who wants to play in college turns down PFS. If your kid was invited to Philly and is considering not going please let me know so I can let the 15+ kids I know who want to go but can't get in - so they can take his spot.

Fat Crab and his minions saw a way to make money and that is the reason NLF is on the same day. Team USA!!!!

Agree. Plenty of kids would love to go to PFS and couldn't get in. Calling BS on the "I got in but decided not to go" routine. Anyone who comes out with that is either (1) full of it; and/or (2) a narcissist who wasted a spot that many others would be happy to have.

Too many team events happening this weekend - many of the top kids are playing with their teams and did turn down PFS.

Best of luck to all 2020's this weekend. This is a great class and I've enjoyed coaching against and watching all of these kids compete at such a high level. Plenty of college coaches will see all these kids play this weekend.

PFS is not for two weeks. No coach would tell his player not to participate unless they were part of NLF and trying to put some money in their pocket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am told Philly Freshman Showcase is THE event in terms of recruiting. True/Not true?

Not sure there is a "The" event. Good yes, but not be all end all. You will however see a lot of talent and politics and holdbacks.

That said enjoy the day (or weekend) some good lacrosse. Not sure with the climate of early recruiting if many top players will be in attendance.

Very true. Really top tier players. (funny how many "freshman" drove themselves to that event as seen in the parking lot)

The numbers of coaches attending is impressive. Our club coach's phone was constantly ringing afterwards. Massive surge in contacts from coaches after that event

FWIW, much of the real scrutiny seemed to occur when the players break up into positional training and then the games. The all-star game is a formality at the end of the day and is the typical shooting fest that one would expect.

I might buy that it was "top tier" players if the entire NXT team wasn't listed (or the vast Majority of it). No way the entire team are "top tier".

The all get automatic entry as part of being on that team. A NXT Perk. Nothing wrong with that. However, 85% of that team are top tier kids

85% top tier? Wow that must be an amazing team!! How did they do today?

2-1 Beat both Sweet Lax teams and lost to a really really strong FCA team.

Any feedback on LI Elite 80 today? What coaches assigned to the 2019 and 2020 age group? Would you recommend for next year? Assume great day...

Heard it was one of the best run events my parents had been too. Good job TA

[quote=Anonymous]2-1 Beat both Sweet Lax teams and lost to a really really strong FCA team.

10-2 FCA. Really strong NXT team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]2-1 Beat both Sweet Lax teams and lost to a really really strong FCA team.

10-2 FCA. Really strong NXT team?

Keep in mind that it's fall balll, many of the keystone players are playing in football playoffs this weekend.....just a thought before you start bragging about wins

Fall ball is more about individual performance, not wins. Coaches are on sidelines evaluating individual play, they don't care who wins. They have certain kids on radar from prospect camps, etc. Be happy if your kid plays well, not who wins.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall ball is more about individual performance, not wins. Coaches are on sidelines evaluating individual play, they don't care who wins. They have certain kids on radar from prospect camps, etc. Be happy if your kid plays well, not who wins.

If your team gets blown out, it is safe to assume that no one played well

Elite 80 was an unbelievable event. Really well organized and to put that many HEAD coaches on the field at once is incredible. Competition was excellent.Coaches really involved and instruction by head coaches unreal. TA just put recruiting to the next level.

91 playing their tournament today.

LOL. None of the LI teams want to play Madlax today. Not surprising that you don't want to play the rebuilt Madlax team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall ball is more about individual performance, not wins. Coaches are on sidelines evaluating individual play, they don't care who wins. They have certain kids on radar from prospect camps, etc. Be happy if your kid plays well, not who wins.

If your team gets blown out, it is safe to assume that no one played well

Not always, you can have great goalie save percentage due to poor defense resulting in lots of shots on goal, and/or dominate f/o, but weak middies not picking up ground balls and still loose. Coaches are there to look at how specific kids are paying their positions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall ball is more about individual performance, not wins. Coaches are on sidelines evaluating individual play, they don't care who wins. They have certain kids on radar from prospect camps, etc. Be happy if your kid plays well, not who wins.

If your team gets blown out, it is safe to assume that no one played well

Not always true, A goalie can have an exceptional performance and team can still loose. The save percentage can be high due to lots of shots fired due to a poor defense. f/o can also show a high win percentage with team turning over ball and losing. Its about the individual performance. The coaches are there to watch kids they already have their eye on.

How did 91 orange do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall ball is more about individual performance, not wins. Coaches are on sidelines evaluating individual play, they don't care who wins. They have certain kids on radar from prospect camps, etc. Be happy if your kid plays well, not who wins.

If your team gets blown out, it is safe to assume that no one played well

Not always true, A goalie can have an exceptional performance and team can still loose. The save percentage can be high due to lots of shots fired due to a poor defense. f/o can also show a high win percentage with team turning over ball and losing. Its about the individual performance. The coaches are there to watch kids they already have their eye on.

Absolutely accurate. A goalie may also not be great yet the field players are doing great. there is no amount of offense that can make up for a bad goalie if both teams are otherwise matched. There may be a great attackman who would be missed if coaches did not understand the true dynamics. They know what they are looking for at this level.

Any scores from NLF event in Baltimore yet that people can share?

Edge Canada beat lie 8-3 and beat crabs 8-5

Edge Canada beat LIE 8-3 -!: beat crabs 7-5

How is the NLF event and Terp Classic going? Who is standing out?

What about the other two pools - navy and green?

Last game for 91... Lets see how they do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last game for 91... Lets see how they do.

How are they doing currently?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last game for 91... Lets see how they do.

Is this the 91 B team you are chiming about? what was there record? Heard that team was a disaster after everyone left for bigger and better teams. Nobody wants to be on a B team heading into recruiting years!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last game for 91... Lets see how they do.

Is this the 91 B team you are chiming about? what was there record? Heard that team was a disaster after everyone left for bigger and better teams. Nobody wants to be on a B team heading into recruiting years!

They have a great player on the team. Hater.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last game for 91... Lets see how they do.

Is this the 91 B team you are chiming about? what was there record? Heard that team was a disaster after everyone left for bigger and better teams. Nobody wants to be on a B team heading into recruiting years!

It is a NY 91 team and would not consider them a b team just because they are not Crush. Still very competitive. How is Crabs doing now that their best players left for FCA and they picked up weaker replacements?

Crabs holdbacks ran into bigger Canadian holdbacks. Doh!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last game for 91... Lets see how they do.

Is this the 91 B team you are chiming about? what was there record? Heard that team was a disaster after everyone left for bigger and better teams. Nobody wants to be on a B team heading into recruiting years!

It is a NY 91 team and would not consider them a b team just because they are not Crush. Still very competitive. How is Crabs doing now that their best players left for FCA and they picked up weaker replacements?

They are not competitive.....just another b team money grab. those boys should either find an A team or stay with their town. Nobody cares about B teams. Keep listening to the directors. They will take your money as long as you give it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last game for 91... Lets see how they do.

Is this the 91 B team you are chiming about? what was there record? Heard that team was a disaster after everyone left for bigger and better teams. Nobody wants to be on a B team heading into recruiting years!

They have a great player on the team. Hater.

just one? Tell him to run for the hills before it's too late!

No edge holdbacks they are all the same age as the Americans on 2020 teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No edge holdbacks they are all the same age as the Americans on 2020 teams

Maybe as old as the kids on crabs and FCA but have never been in line with the same age kids on real 2020 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last game for 91... Lets see how they do.

Is this the 91 B team you are chiming about? what was there record? Heard that team was a disaster after everyone left for bigger and better teams. Nobody wants to be on a B team heading into recruiting years!

They have a great player on the team. Hater.

just one? Tell him to run for the hills before it's too late!

There is certainly more than one good player and they are still a very competitive NY team just not the Crush. Nor do they try to be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No edge holdbacks they are all the same age as the Americans on 2020 teams

Maybe as old as the kids on crabs and FCA but have never been in line with the same age kids on real 2020 teams.

Which real Team Crush? Several hold backs there.

What birth year are all the so called top 2020 teams kids births?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No edge holdbacks they are all the same age as the Americans on 2020 teams

Maybe as old as the kids on crabs and FCA but have never been in line with the same age kids on real 2020 teams.

Which real Team Crush? Several hold backs there.

Stoppppppp Edge has a few kids approaching 17 years old. Played well early I. The day and seemed to slow down as day went on. Old age will do that . Son plays for express. It was our first game and we were off. Edge makes crabs look young lolol Crush has two holdback so neither of which is impact. On way out saw HHH give edge all they could handle.

You are completely wrong edge has zero kids that have even turned 16.. Americans don't understand that when Canadians reclass they are actually the same age. Americans start school a year later.. get the facts straight first. Teams should be made by year they were born.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are completely wrong edge has zero kids that have even turned 16.. Americans don't understand that when Canadians reclass they are actually the same age. Americans start school a year later.. get the facts straight first. Teams should be made by year they were born.

They should on,y have a few kids that are 15 at this point- those born in September or October.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are completely wrong edge has zero kids that have even turned 16.. Americans don't understand that when Canadians reclass they are actually the same age. Americans start school a year later.. get the facts straight first. Teams should be made by year they were born.

Funny how the LI kids all cry foul when they loose. Wake up! You are in 9th grade now, you need to make an impact playing against older players. It will be this way here out till you are a senior in college. Stop whining please!the holdback argument is mute now

They are all the same age as the American teams at times even younger as Americans for some reason double reclass! people need to stop complaining

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are completely wrong edge has zero kids that have even turned 16.. Americans don't understand that when Canadians reclass they are actually the same age. Americans start school a year later.. get the facts straight first. Teams should be made by year they were born.

Funny how the LI kids all cry foul when they loose. Wake up! You are in 9th grade now, you need to make an impact playing against older players. It will be this way here out till you are a senior in college. Stop whining please!the holdback argument is mute now

Funny you think this is a LI parent complaining- I think not because our true 2020 kids wouldn't turn 15 until 12/1 and those are the oldest true 2020s. Most of the LI kids that you'd see playing in these competitive games play varsity anyway and dont care about your Canadian players or their ages. We are no longer in youth lax- but it sure looks good when the younger player shines against their older counterparts.

Remember the kids date of birth are in recruiting books. Funny how most of this edge team was listed on the 2019 team last summer. The edge 2020 team from last summer that could beat no one is probably getting ready to play 2021. Facts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are completely wrong edge has zero kids that have even turned 16.. Americans don't understand that when Canadians reclass they are actually the same age. Americans start school a year later.. get the facts straight first. Teams should be made by year they were born.

Funny how the LI kids all cry foul when they loose. Wake up! You are in 9th grade now, you need to make an impact playing against older players. It will be this way here out till you are a senior in college. Stop whining please!the holdback argument is mute now

Funny how the ignorant parents that are not from Long Island and hold back their kids, try to sound tough but always show that they didn't pay attention in English class. It's moot not mute you moron. Now have another beer, and get ready to go to your dead end job tomorrow morning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are completely wrong edge has zero kids that have even turned 16.. Americans don't understand that when Canadians reclass they are actually the same age. Americans start school a year later.. get the facts straight first. Teams should be made by year they were born.

Funny how the LI kids all cry foul when they loose. Wake up! You are in 9th grade now, you need to make an impact playing against older players. It will be this way here out till you are a senior in college. Stop whining please!the holdback argument is mute now

Funny how the ignorant parents that are not from Long Island and hold back their kids, try to sound tough but always show that they didn't pay attention in English class. It's moot not mute you moron. Now have another beer, and get ready to go to your dead end job tomorrow morning.

Waaa waaaa, go cry to someone who gives a crap. You lost, stop making excuses! Think I'll enjoy my beer now, while you try to doctor up another way to try to make johnny look good.....better hurry up, times running out

Loll.. uneducated comment again.. false the 2019 team has been the same team smashing teams the last few years.. this is he 2020 team the team you are referring to that didn't beat anyone is the edge 2021 team that played up in tournaments and this years is playing against the true age

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are completely wrong edge has zero kids that have even turned 16.. Americans don't understand that when Canadians reclass they are actually the same age. Americans start school a year later.. get the facts straight first. Teams should be made by year they were born.

Funny how the LI kids all cry foul when they loose. Wake up! You are in 9th grade now, you need to make an impact playing against older players. It will be this way here out till you are a senior in college. Stop whining please!the holdback argument is mute now

True 2020 kids in the vast majority of the country is anyone born after 9/1/2001
Funny you think this is a LI parent complaining- I think not because our true 2020 kids wouldn't turn 15 until 12/1 and those are the oldest true 2020s. Most of the LI kids that you'd see playing in these competitive games play varsity anyway and dont care about your Canadian players or their ages. We are no longer in youth lax- but it sure looks good when the younger player shines against their older counterparts.

NXT 2020 must not have done well this weekend. Haven't seen any tweets about how great they are yet today. Imagine if they played in a tourney with real competition like the NLF.

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Kid is a ball hog...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Kid is a ball hog...

Kid is no ball hog! He's great I love the kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Kid is a ball hog...

Why spew hate on the kids birthday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT 2020 must not have done well this weekend. Haven't seen any tweets about how great they are yet today. Imagine if they played in a tourney with real competition like the NLF.

Because the top kid went to Express

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Kid is a ball hog...

Why spew hate on the kids birthday?

What's so special about him? Seemed average to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT 2020 must not have done well this weekend. Haven't seen any tweets about how great they are yet today. Imagine if they played in a tourney with real competition like the NLF.

Because the top kid went to Express

5-1

Those who can't criticize those who can. As usual, BOTC parents bashing CHILDREN! Keep up the good work, what a bunch of winners. Dare you to put your son's name here or jersey number and team so all on BOTC can be aware and observe his greatness! Cowards, hiding behind a keyboard. You should be ashamed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Kid is a ball hog...

Why spew hate on the kids birthday?

What's so special about him? Seemed average to me.

True. No speed. And his stick skills aren't where they're supposed to be for a 9th grader going into recruiting years..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Kid is a ball hog...

Why spew hate on the kids birthday?

What's so special about him? Seemed average to me.

Brought comradery to the team.

All of the Edge team is born in 2001, as are a lot of 2020 players. Canadians naturally graduate in 2019 but take a PG year after high school, so they can get to a better school. Many of the kids could get recruited 2019 but when they reclass, it gives them way more options.
PS. I am a LI parent who was told this by an Edge parent. Pretty smart if you ask me...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Kid is a ball hog...

Why spew hate on the kids birthday?

What's so special about him? Seemed average to me.

True. No speed. And his stick skills aren't where they're supposed to be for a 9th grader going into recruiting years..

Sorry not accurate, Kid is actually fast and has good stick skills, who also did pretty well yesterday. Stop the Hate and go help your kid hit the wall, cones, whatever!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of the Edge team is born in 2001, as are a lot of 2020 players. Canadians naturally graduate in 2019 but take a PG year after high school, so they can get to a better school. Many of the kids could get recruited 2019 but when they reclass, it gives them way more options.
PS. I am a LI parent who was told this by an Edge parent. Pretty smart if you ask me...

Edge was arguably the top team at Boys Latin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91 orange Brentwood kid is a pretty good player. Very quick too like other Brentwood girl

Kid is a ball hog...

Why spew hate on the kids birthday?

What's so special about him? Seemed average to me.

True. No speed. And his stick skills aren't where they're supposed to be for a 9th grader going into recruiting years..

Just stop it....whoever you are.

Thing is when the take a pg year they are still same as the American teams in their age group. Americans start a year later in elementary school..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of the Edge team is born in 2001, as are a lot of 2020 players. Canadians naturally graduate in 2019 but take a PG year after high school, so they can get to a better school. Many of the kids could get recruited 2019 but when they reclass, it gives them way more options.
PS. I am a LI parent who was told this by an Edge parent. Pretty smart if you ask me...

Edge was arguably the top team at Boys Latin

most of the team will head down to the us in 2018 and finish their senior year plus a gap year. Many attend Culver, Trinity Pawling, Deerfield, Hill School or IMG. Funny enough those people don't have the same rules as the college recruiters. Culver was very active this weekend. Also many do their gap at the Hill Academy in Toronto

Madlax took it to Leading Edge. Awaiting your apologies now.

how did NH Tomahawks do? dont see them around so much.

How about Crush backing out of tournaments because they don't have there star players, so all the other kids on that team don't exist and can not get looked at by college coaches . Why would you ever play for the organization or coach ..... Terrible !!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about Crush backing out of tournaments because they don't have there star players, so all the other kids on that team don't exist and can not get looked at by college coaches . Why would you ever play for the organization or coach ..... Terrible !!!!!!!!!!

Funny part is large part of team is committed already and bunch of the "stars" are not yet so that ruins that theory. They seem to have it figured out pretty well wish my sons team did. Tournaments is plural They will be in Philly saturday I am sure. Word I got is many kids still in football playoffs.

Good to see the MASSHOLES have entered the forum as well as Canada "word has it Edge canada was the top team this weekend" Just say I thought my sons team was the best

Posed this question on Maryland 2020 board
Team with the Most commits??
1.
2.
3.
4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about Crush backing out of tournaments because they don't have there star players, so all the other kids on that team don't exist and can not get looked at by college coaches . Why would you ever play for the organization or coach ..... Terrible !!!!!!!!!!

Funny part is large part of team is committed already and bunch of the "stars" are not yet so that ruins that theory. They seem to have it figured out pretty well wish my sons team did. Tournaments is plural They will be in Philly saturday I am sure. Word I got is many kids still in football playoffs.

Ill only ask this, how many are on their varsity footbal team

I believe Catholic JV went through this weekend as well as public varsity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good to see the MASSHOLES have entered the forum as well as Canada "word has it Edge canada was the top team this weekend" Just say I thought my sons team was the best

I was there. Saw all teams at least for a short spell. Tomahawks looked very good and other teams rarely got the ball. Crabs looked like they were missing a spark but still very good, lost to Edge. Madlax way improved beat Leading Edge and Mesa, lost to Tomahawks. Edge really good but inconsistent losing one to HHH. Eclipse a little improved. LIE met expectations losing close one to Crabs. New DCExpress got clobbered all day but has some talent. Mesa looked pretty good tying Leading Edge in one game. Laxachussetts looked very strong beat Looney's who looked very good too except that one game.

Gobs of top D1 coaches watching these games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about Crush backing out of tournaments because they don't have there star players, so all the other kids on that team don't exist and can not get looked at by college coaches . Why would you ever play for the organization or coach ..... Terrible !!!!!!!!!!

Because that program and a certain head coach only cares about 5-6 kids. The rest are valued/treated like garbage. It was obviously when you saw the WSOYL game and it's just as obvious now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Posed this question on Maryland 2020 board
Team with the Most commits??
1. FCA
2. 91
3. Sweet Lax
4. Looney's

Schedule for Big HHH Tourney

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Posed this question on Maryland 2020 board
Team with the Most commits??
1. FCA
2. 91
3. Sweet Lax
4. Looney's

Crush has 9 players which would reflect more than 4/5 How many do the other programs have Express has 4 and Looneys 5 what does FCA have

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Posed this question on Maryland 2020 board
Team with the Most commits??
1. FCA
2. 91
3. Sweet Lax
4. Looney's

Crush has 9 players which would reflect more than 4/5 How many do the other programs have Express has 4 and Looneys 5 what does FCA have [

2020 College Commitments

Frankie Hapney LSM St. Pauls University of Michigan
Cole Herbert Midfield Calvert Hall North Carolina
Rory Jones Attack Calvert Hall University of Michigan
Daniel Kelly Attack Calvert Hall University of North Carolina
Jack Koras Midfield Loyola Blakefield University of Maryland
Jackson Marshall Goalie Calvert Hall University of Maryland
Michael McKnelly Attack Norfolk Academy Ohio State University
/quote]

How many reclassed kids on that list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Posed this question on Maryland 2020 board
Team with the Most commits??
1. FCA
2. 91
3. Sweet Lax
4. Looney's

Crush has 9 players which would reflect more than 4/5 How many do the other programs have Express has 4 and Looneys 5 what does FCA have [

2020 College Commitments

Frankie Hapney LSM St. Pauls University of Michigan
Cole Herbert Midfield Calvert Hall North Carolina
Rory Jones Attack Calvert Hall University of Michigan
Daniel Kelly Attack Calvert Hall University of North Carolina
Jack Koras Midfield Loyola Blakefield University of Maryland
Jackson Marshall Goalie Calvert Hall University of Maryland
Michael McKnelly Attack Norfolk Academy Ohio State University
/quote]

Can't count Cole Herbert in with FCA. He was playing for BL 8th grade team and Crabs and never played a game with FCA or Calvert Hall when he committed to UNC. So that reduces the total to 6.

Fat Crab - is that you whining about not getting credit for the "big guy" ? I'm sure your superior lacrosse IQ had a huge amount to do with him committing. Reclasssed kid playing against younger kids is your secret sauce.

No doubt UNC told his family to go play for the Kellys at FCA/CH - they actually played the game.....

Crush has 9 players which would reflect more than 4/5 How many do the other programs have Express has 4 and Looneys 5 what does FCA have [

2020 College Commitments

Frankie Hapney LSM St. Pauls University of Michigan
Cole Herbert Midfield Calvert Hall North Carolina
Rory Jones Attack Calvert Hall University of Michigan
Daniel Kelly Attack Calvert Hall University of North Carolina
Jack Koras Midfield Loyola Blakefield University of Maryland
Jackson Marshall Goalie Calvert Hall University of Maryland
Michael McKnelly Attack Norfolk Academy Ohio State University
**********************

McKnelly played 1 tournament with FCA, and they're counting him as a commit. Also a holdback. He repeated a grade (6th or 7th?) when he switched from one private school to another in Virginia Beach. But, hey, the strategy seems to work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Posed this question on Maryland 2020 board
Team with the Most commits??
1. FCA
2. 91
3. Sweet Lax
4. Looney's

Crush has 9 players which would reflect more than 4/5 How many do the other programs have Express has 4 and Looneys 5 what does FCA have [

2020 College Commitments

Frankie Hapney LSM St. Pauls University of Michigan
Cole Herbert Midfield Calvert Hall North Carolina
Rory Jones Attack Calvert Hall University of Michigan
Daniel Kelly Attack Calvert Hall University of North Carolina
Jack Koras Midfield Loyola Blakefield University of Maryland
Jackson Marshall Goalie Calvert Hall University of Maryland
Michael McKnelly Attack Norfolk Academy Ohio State University
/quote]

Can't count Cole Herbert in with FCA. He was playing for BL 8th grade team and Crabs and never played a game with FCA or Calvert Hall when he committed to UNC. So that reduces the total to 6.

Nope, shouldn't work that way. you must count the current players who are committed. We all know that most of these kids got good thought heir own hard work and talent, many of whom connected with colleges coaches at showcases, or playing with their HS, not playing with club team. There was plenty of movement the past year on all teams with respect to the committed players. The list should be of current players who are committed playing on the team, not where they were when they gave verbal

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has 9 players which would reflect more than 4/5 How many do the other programs have Express has 4 and Looneys 5 what does FCA have [

2020 College Commitments

Frankie Hapney LSM St. Pauls University of Michigan
Cole Herbert Midfield Calvert Hall North Carolina
Rory Jones Attack Calvert Hall University of Michigan
Daniel Kelly Attack Calvert Hall University of North Carolina
Jack Koras Midfield Loyola Blakefield University of Maryland
Jackson Marshall Goalie Calvert Hall University of Maryland
Michael McKnelly Attack Norfolk Academy Ohio State University
**********************

McKnelly played 1 tournament with FCA, and they're counting him as a commit. Also a holdback. He repeated a grade (6th or 7th?) when he switched from one private school to another in Virginia Beach. But, hey, the strategy seems to work.

Which 9 are committed from Crush? Where are they going?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has 9 players which would reflect more than 4/5 How many do the other programs have Express has 4 and Looneys 5 what does FCA have [

2020 College Commitments

Frankie Hapney LSM St. Pauls University of Michigan
Cole Herbert Midfield Calvert Hall North Carolina
Rory Jones Attack Calvert Hall University of Michigan
Daniel Kelly Attack Calvert Hall University of North Carolina
Jack Koras Midfield Loyola Blakefield University of Maryland
Jackson Marshall Goalie Calvert Hall University of Maryland
Michael McKnelly Attack Norfolk Academy Ohio State University
**********************

McKnelly played 1 tournament with FCA, and they're counting him as a commit. Also a holdback. He repeated a grade (6th or 7th?) when he switched from one private school to another in Virginia Beach. But, hey, the strategy seems to work.

like the Crush kids are doing?

Lets see if JS gets those other CRUSH kids recruited or will he just leave them all hanging and move on . Lets be honest it is all about JS and that is it , I would not want to be on that team if I were not COMMITTED . GOOD LUCK WITH YOU RECRUITMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see if JS gets those other CRUSH kids recruited or will he just leave them all hanging and move on . Lets be honest it is all about JS and that is it , I would not want to be on that team if I were not COMMITTED . GOOD LUCK WITH YOU RECRUITMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on with this nonsense for years people would say he only helps 3/4 kids now they have 8/9 commits and many of the top ones still out there waiting for Ivy's or one of the top schools that comit later That entire team will be done by summer Wish my sons coach was as proactive as he is or his kids. I drank this cool aid for awhile that that team would fall apart it hasn't they have a small roster and most kids are committed already. Sometimes as painful as it is you have to tip your cap myself included

Not a shock that the organizers gave Madlax 2020 the hardest draw: Laxachusetts Yellow, HHH and Mesa.

That's ok, we are coming to dominate again. And then we'll do it the next day at Big 12 vs Blue Star, Orange Crush, Rock.

Other teams get home cooking. We don't, but we don't need it.

The one kid who's dad is prominant on this board and was called out last year when he left express for crush and was forced to sign his name on the board. Left crush and is now w Legacy committed before playing w legacy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a shock that the organizers gave Madlax 2020 the hardest draw: Laxachusetts Yellow, HHH and Mesa.

That's ok, we are coming to dominate again. And then we'll do it the next day at Big 12 vs Blue Star, Orange Crush, Rock.

Other teams get home cooking. We don't, but we don't need it.

Hardest Draw????? what are you talking about. Lax B, HHH and Mesa who won 1 game last summer

Crush will lose this fall if they play Looneys Or FCA. Sure they will be ducking them! They are not the top anymore

What r u talking about. Lax yellow is their B team. HHH and Mesa are both weak as well. You couldn't have gotten a weaker draw

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What r u talking about. Lax yellow is their B team. HHH and Mesa are both weak as well. You couldn't have gotten a weaker draw

When are you people going to realize that someone is baiting everyone with the nonsensical pro Madlax posts?

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Terrible list. FCA beat Express good last summer
Let's see how Edge handles Crush today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

[Ouch, Crabs out of top 7 or 8? What happened to them?]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Looneys lost to Taz and tomahawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What r u talking about. Lax yellow is their B team. HHH and Mesa are both weak as well. You couldn't have gotten a weaker draw

When are you people going to realize that someone is baiting everyone with the nonsensical pro Madlax posts?

Unfortunately, he is real and not a parody. Some of the ML 2020 parents know who he is and he's an embarassment. They're hoping his son gets cut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Looneys lost to Taz and tomahawks

When did Looney's lose to Taz (Legacy)? Don't believe it was this fall but can't remember all of the teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Looneys lost to Taz and tomahawks

When did Looney's lose to Taz (Legacy)? Don't believe it was this fall but can't remember all of the teams.

At the Inside Lacrosse Showcase

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Terrible list. FCA beat Express good last summer
Let's see how Edge handles Crush today

So far today: Edge beat Express (to be expected) Sweetlax beat Laxachusettes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Looneys lost to Taz and tomahawks

When did Looney's lose to Taz (Legacy)? Don't believe it was this fall but can't remember all of the teams.

I do not recall Looney;s Orange 2020 loosing to Taz or Tomahawks last spring/summer and they have not played wither of those teams this fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Terrible list. FCA beat Express good last summer
Let's see how Edge handles Crush today

So far today: Edge beat Express (to be expected) Sweetlax beat Laxachusettes

Express is not in the top 10

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Looneys lost to Taz and tomahawks

When did Looney's lose to Taz (Legacy)? Don't believe it was this fall but can't remember all of the teams.

At the Inside Lacrosse Showcase

Don't believe Looney's Orange 2020 played in that showcase this past summer.

Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing AAA hockey.. The summer is when you will see the real match ups of all teams studs.. Edge will make some real noise this summer..

Edge is missing it's 4 top offensive players and 2 top D men due to AAA hockey.. so the summer will be a better judge of the teams for sure

in relation to the match up with Team 91 crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing AAA hockey.. The summer is when you will see the real match ups of all teams studs.. Edge will make some real noise this summer..

Crush 9-7 over edge both benches look light. Edg goalie is really good crush looks rusty but talented offensively

As and edge parent we are missing one offensive player Stop stirring stuff our boys played great Crush in fairness missed some easy shots but a great game w some great parents I be honest actually met.a future teammates parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Looneys lost to Taz and tomahawks

When did Looney's lose to Taz (Legacy)? Don't believe it was this fall but can't remember all of the teams.

At the Inside Lacrosse Showcase

Don't believe Looney's Orange 2020 played in that showcase this past summer.

They did play and they lost to Taz in the semis

Correction - EXPRESS BEAT EDGE CANADA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As reflected by them playing not one close and last summer and looneys getting beat soundly by a Laxachusetts team that crush beat many times last summer.
Crush
Laxachusetts
Edge
Looneys
Express
FCA

. That was last summer, has nothing to do with this fall and next spring. Your list is way way incorrect. Edge #3 ??? Looneys 4th??? Sorry, they are higher. Looney's would beat Laxachusetts 4 out of 5 times, same with FCA over Laxachusetts. Top 3, Crush, Looney's FCA.

Terrible list. FCA beat Express good last summer
Let's see how Edge handles Crush today

So far today: Edge beat Express (to be expected) Sweetlax beat Laxachusettes

Crush won all their games today, lost by a goal to Edge, who should probably be #2, Laxachusettes should move down after losing to Sweetlax, who also beat Express by a wide margin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction - EXPRESS BEAT EDGE CANADA

No, they did not, if fact they looked weak all day

So if they lost to Edge how did they win all there games?

So did crush win all their games or lose to Edge? I don't understand what you are saying. Either they win all their games or they lost one. Clarify please.

Saw crush play sweetlax. Tons of committed kids It was sweetlax national squad. After sweetlax beat up Laxachusetts and express they lost to crush by 6/7 lost track. Thought HHH Looked improved as well it's just so hard to tell in fall

Didn't FL$ beat Sweetlax last weekend

Express beat Edge Canada 8-7, lost to Sweetlax National 11-3 and lost to Laxachusetts 6-5

Sweetlax Florida..with 4 D1 commits 6 to 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did crush win all their games or lose to Edge? I don't understand what you are saying. Either they win all their games or they lost one. Clarify please.

Crush beat edge by 1 and beat up on BBL and Sweet lax National

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw crush play sweetlax. Tons of committed kids It was sweetlax national squad. After sweetlax beat up Laxachusetts and express they lost to crush by 6/7 lost track. Thought HHH Looked improved as well it's just so hard to tell in fall

They lost by 4 after being tied 7-7 after 3. Gotta hand it to Crush for finishing game. Great lax!

So I guess this big top "List" that was going around is now defunct! Only Crush remains at top, but beatable, with all others back and forth any given day. Curious if there were any areas that excelled such as Goalie, Fogo , D or attack. Many coaches were watching at the Big 4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Setting the field...

Rather than a "top 10" list here are some groupings.

Top:
Crush

Outstanding:
Crabs
Looneys
LI Express

The very good. Any of these teams could beat the others on any given day and might beat one in the group above every so often....

Annapolis Hawks
Laxachusettes
NH Tomahawks
91 Maryland
Leading Edge
Sweetlax upstate
FCA
Taz
Rising Sons

Thank you express dad for your thoughts

Well, Express was beat down today by Sweetlax, how do you put them where they are?? Give me a break Express Dad. When your best player goes down, so does the whole team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Setting the field...

Rather than a "top 10" list here are some groupings.

Top:
Crush

Outstanding:
Crabs
Looneys
LI Express

The very good. Any of these teams could beat the others on any given day and might beat one in the group above every so often....

Annapolis Hawks
Laxachusettes
NH Tomahawks
91 Maryland
Leading Edge
Sweetlax upstate
FCA
Taz
Rising Sons

Thank you express dad for your thoughts

Well, Express was beat down today by Sweetlax, how do you put them where they are?? Give me a break Express Dad. When your best player goes down, so does the whole team

That was the Sweetlax National Team. They are good. More than half of the starters ade committed. Best team on the Hill today

Crush beat sweetlax 13-6 two incredibly talented teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Setting the field...

Rather than a "top 10" list here are some groupings.

Top:
Crush

Outstanding:
Crabs
Looneys
LI Express

The very good. Any of these teams could beat the others on any given day and might beat one in the group above every so often....

Annapolis Hawks
Laxachusettes
NH Tomahawks
91 Maryland
Leading Edge
Sweetlax upstate
FCA
Taz
Rising Sons

Thank you express dad for your thoughts

Well, Express was beat down today by Sweetlax, how do you put them where they are?? Give me a break Express Dad. When your best player goes down, so does the whole team

That was the Sweetlax National Team. They are good. More than half of the starters ade committed. Best team on the Hill today

sweetlax national team a combo of sweetlax upstate NY and sweet lax FLA? Or is there other?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in relation to the match up with Team 91 crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing AAA hockey.. The summer is when you will see the real match ups of all teams studs.. Edge will make some real noise this summer..

Fixed it for you: Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing on age as 2018's in AAA hockey, but play lacrosse as 2020's to land scholarship to US school in case they dont catch on in hockey.

Another idiotic comment from the peanut gallery...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in relation to the match up with Team 91 crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing AAA hockey.. The summer is when you will see the real match ups of all teams studs.. Edge will make some real noise this summer..

Fixed it for you: Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing on age as 2018's in AAA hockey, but play lacrosse as 2020's to land scholarship to US school in case they dont catch on in hockey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in relation to the match up with Team 91 crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing AAA hockey.. The summer is when you will see the real match ups of all teams studs.. Edge will make some real noise this summer..

Fixed it for you: Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing on age as 2018's in AAA hockey, but play lacrosse as 2020's to land scholarship to US school in case they dont catch on in hockey.

Stop the whining, all teams have hold backs, if you can't compete then you shouldn't play, life is not always fair. This is coming from a parent of an on age kid. I'm sick of hearing about this. My kid stepped up, how bout yours does the same!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in relation to the match up with Team 91 crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing AAA hockey.. The summer is when you will see the real match ups of all teams studs.. Edge will make some real noise this summer..

Fixed it for you: Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing on age as 2018's in AAA hockey, but play lacrosse as 2020's to land scholarship to US school in case they dont catch on in hockey.

Stop the whining, all teams have hold backs, if you can't compete then you shouldn't play, life is not always fair. This is coming from a parent of an on age kid. I'm sick of hearing about this. My kid stepped up, how bout yours does the same!

Good for you, but there is something else to consider. Holdbacks, being one a one year holdback is one thing, but having double holdbacks is way out of line and over the top. 2018's should in no way be playing 2020 club lacrosse, they are double holdbacks.
Now, if you are sick of hearing about this then don't read it. Not that difficult. Just don't read it.

Those boys must feel very tough running over kids they are 2/3 years older than

There is no double hold backs on the edge team.. bring your birth certificates.. easiest way to settle this.. problem is you won't be able to complain after you get proof that they are the same age and they beat little johnny's team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in relation to the match up with Team 91 crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing AAA hockey.. The summer is when you will see the real match ups of all teams studs.. Edge will make some real noise this summer..

Fixed it for you: Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing on age as 2018's in AAA hockey, but play lacrosse as 2020's to land scholarship to US school in case they dont catch on in hockey.

Stop the whining, all teams have hold backs, if you can't compete then you shouldn't play, life is not always fair. This is coming from a parent of an on age kid. I'm sick of hearing about this. My kid stepped up, how bout yours does the same!

Good for you, but there is something else to consider. Holdbacks, being one a one year holdback is one thing, but having double holdbacks is way out of line and over the top. 2018's should in no way be playing 2020 club lacrosse, they are double holdbacks.
Now, if you are sick of hearing about this then don't read it. Not that difficult. Just don't read it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those boys must feel very tough running over kids they are 2/3 years older than

Like the new Blaze kid? If the organization condones this, they shouldn't complain about it when it's done to them!

Hahahah. 2-3 years. Lmfo.. by April you clowns will be saying 3-4 years older..

Regardless of organization do not think many approve of this.

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did crush win all their games or lose to Edge? I don't understand what you are saying. Either they win all their games or they lost one. Clarify please.

Crush beat edge by 1 and beat up on BBL and Sweet lax National

Freedom played Ashe today and lots 7-6, great competitive game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

Turning sixteen in a few weeks is a one-year hold back, every team has them. Are you as appalled that 89+2 is now encouraging the double holdback, or FCA who is supposed to be promoting fairness and moral responsibility has several, or do you just have it out for one club? Maybe you should investigate your own clubs birthdates, you may be surprised at what you find. You sound pathetic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

We had same experience with them and they seriously hurt two of or families and they still lost.,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

crabs, crush, FCA, laxachucettes, edge, Looneys are top teams who have them. Many others do as well, but are not top teams so nobody cares. Not sure what anybody's point here is. Sounds like someone is making excuses because johnny can't compete. Stop your whining if you are on age, if you are lucky you will make it to college and probably have a 20 yr old roommate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

crabs, crush, FCA, laxachucettes, edge, Looneys are top teams who have them. Many others do as well, but are not top teams so nobody cares. Not sure what anybody's point here is. Sounds like someone is making excuses because johnny can't compete. Stop your whining if you are on age, if you are lucky you will make it to college and probably have a 20 yr old roommate

. True, those clubs mentioned, other than Crabs, have a few holdbacks but not to the extent of Crabs, with a majority of their roster with holdbacks and double holdbacks. Edge is even worse. The point is, since you can't seem to grasp it is most are sick of the holdbacks. No one is whining but you. You seem to have a problem with on age kids, which leaves me to believe you have a holdback or double holdback. Pathetic. As for Edge, who gives a ratsa*s about their school system. 2018's shouldn't be playing 2020 lacrosse. If Edge wants to play in the US tournaments, 2018 year olds from Edge play in that age group, regardless of their graduation year. If not, stay the [lacrosse] in Canada and play each other. Now Mr whinner, what do you think?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

I"m sure you guys have improved and obviously you have older kids on average. I have seen people call 9/0/1 out several times only to get their d###s kicked in by them. We will see and I want YOU to come on here an post the score.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

crabs, crush, FCA, laxachucettes, edge, Looneys are top teams who have them. Many others do as well, but are not top teams so nobody cares. Not sure what anybody's point here is. Sounds like someone is making excuses because johnny can't compete. Stop your whining if you are on age, if you are lucky you will make it to college and probably have a 20 yr old roommate

. True, those clubs mentioned, other than Crabs, have a few holdbacks but not to the extent of Crabs, with a majority of their roster with holdbacks and double holdbacks. Edge is even worse. The point is, since you can't seem to grasp it is most are sick of the holdbacks. No one is whining but you. You seem to have a problem with on age kids, which leaves me to believe you have a holdback or double holdback. Pathetic. As for Edge, who gives a ratsa*s about their school system. 2018's shouldn't be playing 2020 lacrosse. If Edge wants to play in the US tournaments, 2018 year olds from Edge play in that age group, regardless of their graduation year. If not, stay the [lacrosse] in Canada and play each other. Now Mr whinner, what do you think?

Actually I have an on age kid who is excelling and even been askied to play for a few of the topt teams. Just sick of the whining. Step up or step out! This is the reality of youth lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

Why is the Edge 2021 team horrible???? Where was your outstanding 2020 team last year or the year before? Don't tell me they developed their lacrosse skills. The whole Edge team was born in 2001. That's great, every other 2020 team are filled with players who have a 2002 birth year......And how the [lacrosse] can a team reclass? BTW you will lose next week also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

crabs, crush, FCA, laxachucettes, edge, Looneys are top teams who have them. Many others do as well, but are not top teams so nobody cares. Not sure what anybody's point here is. Sounds like someone is making excuses because johnny can't compete. Stop your whining if you are on age, if you are lucky you will make it to college and probably have a 20 yr old roommate

. True, those clubs mentioned, other than Crabs, have a few holdbacks but not to the extent of Crabs, with a majority of their roster with holdbacks and double holdbacks. Edge is even worse. The point is, since you can't seem to grasp it is most are sick of the holdbacks. No one is whining but you. You seem to have a problem with on age kids, which leaves me to believe you have a holdback or double holdback. Pathetic. As for Edge, who gives a ratsa*s about their school system. 2018's shouldn't be playing 2020 lacrosse. If Edge wants to play in the US tournaments, 2018 year olds from Edge play in that age group, regardless of their graduation year. If not, stay the [lacrosse] in Canada and play each other. Now Mr whinner, what do you think?

Actually I have an on age kid who is excelling and even been askied to play for a few of the topt teams. Just sick of the whining. Step up or step out! This is the reality of youth lax

. Holdbacks are not the reality of youth lacrosse unless the masses lets a few programs (Crabs/Edge etc) run over them. Your statement of step up or step out is way off point and seems to be self serving to you. Again, if you are sick of what you call whining just move on and don't read it. Most who discuss holdbacks are not whining, it's a discussion of what is wrong with youth lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

Turning sixteen in a few weeks is a one-year hold back, every team has them. Are you as appalled that 89+2 is now encouraging the double holdback, or FCA who is supposed to be promoting fairness and moral responsibility has several, or do you just have it out for one club? Maybe you should investigate your own clubs birthdates, you may be surprised at what you find. You sound pathetic

. Sorry bunk but your statement about sounding pathetic really makes you sound pathetic. Of course no one that I have encountered in youth lacrosse encourages holdbacks. Yep, I've heard about the direction of 91 and FCA is now referred to as fellowship of cheating athletes. And I have, as you call it, investigated my sons club, 23 on roster, 4 holdbacks, no double holdbacks. And the holdbacks are just there, not encourage or recruited. So, getting back to your pathetic, people know just as much or more than you, so be careful about calling someone pathetic because it comes right back to you.

It's embarrassing for edge. Most other teams have a player here or there. When it is an entire team of "2018" aged kids that is the issue. The fact you say you can play with anyone is terrible you should beat everyone with an entire team of men vs kids going through or waiting for puberty. Really pathetic edge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

Turning sixteen in a few weeks is a one-year hold back, every team has them. Are you as appalled that 89+2 is now encouraging the double holdback, or FCA who is supposed to be promoting fairness and moral responsibility has several, or do you just have it out for one club? Maybe you should investigate your own clubs birthdates, you may be surprised at what you find. You sound pathetic

. Sorry bunk but your statement about sounding pathetic really makes you sound pathetic. Of course no one that I have encountered in youth lacrosse encourages holdbacks. Yep, I've heard about the direction of 91 and FCA is now referred to as fellowship of cheating athletes. And I have, as you call it, investigated my sons club, 23 on roster, 4 holdbacks, no double holdbacks. And the holdbacks are just there, not encourage or recruited. So, getting back to your pathetic, people know just as much or more than you, so be careful about calling someone pathetic because it comes right back to you.

Wow, this is worse than I thought, you are delusional AND pathetic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

that's a total bold-faced lie. Every kid on the team is born in 2001. They travel with their passports so feel free to drop by the scrum one day and ask for photo ID. Pretty sure u will be obliged even just to end these ridiculous accusations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did crush win all their games or lose to Edge? I don't understand what you are saying. Either they win all their games or they lost one. Clarify please.

Crush beat edge by 1 and beat up on BBL and Sweet lax National

Freedom played Ashe today and lots 7-6, great competitive game.

good game Freedom and Edge. Freedom have improved. On a sournote that fl$ in 3D was a horrible event fields 11 & 12 were appalling cows wouldn't be seen grazing there. Coaches watching what a joke. I thin I saw a Tasmanian Tiger but no college coaches. We begged our tournament director to go elsewhere and we were very unhappy 1500 for that crap. Wow talk about a cash grab

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did crush win all their games or lose to Edge? I don't understand what you are saying. Either they win all their games or they lost one. Clarify please.

Crush beat edge by 1 and beat up on BBL and Sweet lax National

Freedom played Ashe today and lots 7-6, great competitive game.

good game Freedom and Edge. Freedom have improved. On a sournote that fl$ in 3D was a horrible event fields 11 & 12 were appalling cows wouldn't be seen grazing there. Coaches watching what a joke. I thin I saw a Tasmanian Tiger but no college coaches. We begged our tournament director to go elsewhere and we were very unhappy 1500 for that crap. Wow talk about a cash grab

FL$ 2020 looked really good this weekend at 3D. Beat up on teams. Much improved from the summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

Turning sixteen in a few weeks is a one-year hold back, every team has them. Are you as appalled that 89+2 is now encouraging the double holdback, or FCA who is supposed to be promoting fairness and moral responsibility has several, or do you just have it out for one club? Maybe you should investigate your own clubs birthdates, you may be surprised at what you find. You sound pathetic

. Sorry bunk but your statement about sounding pathetic really makes you sound pathetic. Of course no one that I have encountered in youth lacrosse encourages holdbacks. Yep, I've heard about the direction of 91 and FCA is now referred to as fellowship of cheating athletes. And I have, as you call it, investigated my sons club, 23 on roster, 4 holdbacks, no double holdbacks. And the holdbacks are just there, not encourage or recruited. So, getting back to your pathetic, people know just as much or more than you, so be careful about calling someone pathetic because it comes right back to you.

Wow, this is worse than I thought, you are delusional AND pathetic!

There you go again, calling people names, without even knowing the meaning of the words you are using. Now that is pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did crush win all their games or lose to Edge? I don't understand what you are saying. Either they win all their games or they lost one. Clarify please.

Crush beat edge by 1 and beat up on BBL and Sweet lax National

Freedom played Ashe today and lots 7-6, great competitive game.

good game Freedom and Edge. Freedom have improved. On a sournote that fl$ in 3D was a horrible event fields 11 & 12 were appalling cows wouldn't be seen grazing there. Coaches watching what a joke. I thin I saw a Tasmanian Tiger but no college coaches. We begged our tournament director to go elsewhere and we were very unhappy 1500 for that crap. Wow talk about a cash grab

FL$ 2020 looked really good this weekend at 3D. Beat up on teams. Much improved from the summer.

did they play anyone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

This sounds like is was written by an Edge coach. I truly hope your team is different, in that the cheap shots/late hits etc are out of your game. That type of game is no fun to watch and could seriously injure a player. Ironically Looney's played a team from the DC area, Blackwolf, this past weekend and it was almost the same situation. Blackwolf with cheap shots, late hits and Looney's beat them 11-2.
I believe at this point in the fall and for next season, 2020's will be playing in recruiting events/tournaments/games and must realize that this is not what a college coach wants to see out of players. You play doing cheap shots and late hits, you will quickly be overlooked by college coaches, believe me, I have had several tell me this. No matter how good the player, if this type of stuff is in his game, they don't want that player.
Lastly, I noticed you stated THEN skilled Looney's team, past tense. They are still skilled and playing well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did crush win all their games or lose to Edge? I don't understand what you are saying. Either they win all their games or they lost one. Clarify please.

Crush beat edge by 1 and beat up on BBL and Sweet lax National

Freedom played Ashe today and lots 7-6, great competitive game.

good game Freedom and Edge. Freedom have improved. On a sournote that fl$ in 3D was a horrible event fields 11 & 12 were appalling cows wouldn't be seen grazing there. Coaches watching what a joke. I thin I saw a Tasmanian Tiger but no college coaches. We begged our tournament director to go elsewhere and we were very unhappy 1500 for that crap. Wow talk about a cash grab

FL$ 2020 looked really good this weekend at 3D. Beat up on teams. Much improved from the summer.

agree on the fl$ in 3d. terrible tournament.

Looneys barely got by Next Level.

Express looked terrible.

Outlaws lost most of their games.

FL$ did not play any good completion, waste of time

Edge looking real good

Sweetlax National looking very strong

Igloo? think they played don't know scores

Crush still on top, but beatable, would like to see them play the other top teams again

Where was Taz?

Freedom very good

Laxachusettes had a tough weekend

College Coaches lining the fields. Should be swarm of commitments coming in December.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did crush win all their games or lose to Edge? I don't understand what you are saying. Either they win all their games or they lost one. Clarify please.

Crush beat edge by 1 and beat up on BBL and Sweet lax National

Freedom played Ashe today and lots 7-6, great competitive game.

good game Freedom and Edge. Freedom have improved. On a sournote that fl$ in 3D was a horrible event fields 11 & 12 were appalling cows wouldn't be seen grazing there. Coaches watching what a joke. I thin I saw a Tasmanian Tiger but no college coaches. We begged our tournament director to go elsewhere and we were very unhappy 1500 for that crap. Wow talk about a cash grab

FL$ 2020 looked really good this weekend at 3D. Beat up on teams. Much improved from the summer.

did they play anyone?

tri-state, NJLC, and PA roughriders. Plus a nice win over sweetlax florida last week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys barely got by Next Level.

Express looked terrible.

Outlaws lost most of their games.

FL$ did not play any good completion, waste of time

Edge looking real good

Sweetlax National looking very strong

Igloo? think they played don't know scores

Crush still on top, but beatable, would like to see them play the other top teams again

Where was Taz?

Freedom very good

Laxachusettes had a tough weekend

College Coaches lining the fields. Should be swarm of commitments coming in December.

And you know all of this how???? Seems you must have spent more time driving than watching games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys barely got by Next Level.

Express looked terrible.

Outlaws lost most of their games.

FL$ did not play any good completion, waste of time

Edge looking real good

Sweetlax National looking very strong

Igloo? think they played don't know scores

Crush still on top, but beatable, would like to see them play the other top teams again

Where was Taz?

Freedom very good

Laxachusettes had a tough weekend

College Coaches lining the fields. Should be swarm of commitments coming in December.

college coaches in Delaware. How much money did they pay that famrer to use his field is was dangerous honestly lucky a kid didn't rip their knee out. Coach colleges in Delaware I saw a goose that lays golden eggs the mad hatter but college coaches were elsewhere. As a team director never again there.

Are scores from the "lesser" games at Big 4 available anywhere? How did Eclipse do?

FL$ in 3d wasn't great, wasn't horrible. That smell around 1PM Sunday was pretty awful though. Some fields were great (turf) some where OK, some were bad. Parking ok, bathrooms good, security great. College coach attendance was OK. Overall seemed decent. Not worth the drive, how come LI cant have a league and all teams just play against each other on a weekly basis. It would work great, just need someone to get it going with the right connections. Seems like a win/win from my point of view. Thoughts?

There were good teams there--but they were each in separate divisions. If there isn't a playoff format the teams would've been better served to put all the good ones in one group--common, they know whose who. Or have it a playoff format if they are going to be grouped that way.

AND...the fields were not nearly as bad as the fields on LI that are used for tournaments at Suny Farmingdale--which to me is bar none THE WORST tournament venue.

But, if you put the LI teams in the same division, it begs the question, why are we travelling to Delaware to play LI competition?

"The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st"
You just described a 2019 team. If you would like to compete against same age/size competitors, that is where you will find them. 2020(other than a few reclasses) are younger less developed players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

Feel like Edge puts a ton into looking their best in the fall while many other programs look towards the summer and are less focused on the fall. More laid back approach

I really can't believe how pathetic the anti holdback/reclass parents are!! Who gives a Frkn rats arse if your "on age kid" or "on age" entire team has to compete against Edge or Crabs, especially since you say in the same breath "play up not down" to become a better player! I would rather loose 8-6 to edge then win 13-2 against "on age" supposed AA teams..i.e. Eclipse, DC express, madlax etc etc. And please don't give me the "it's dangerous" ..we are all competing with Juniors and Seniors now during high school ball. Not one dad of a talented player (committed or not) ever complains about older kids. It's always from a Dad who's kid has received no looks!

most 13 and 14 yr old boys are not developed physically as compared to a 16 yr old they are playing against. These older kids are hurting the younger boys that are not cheating and playing in their age appropriate group. When they get to college it all evens out, But until then we need to fix the problem and get rid of those who cheat. My guess is your son is one of those holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really can't believe how pathetic the anti holdback/reclass parents are!! Who gives a Frkn rats arse if your "on age kid" or "on age" entire team has to compete against Edge or Crabs, especially since you say in the same breath "play up not down" to become a better player! I would rather loose 8-6 to edge then win 13-2 against "on age" supposed AA teams..i.e. Eclipse, DC express, madlax etc etc. And please don't give me the "it's dangerous" ..we are all competing with Juniors and Seniors now during high school ball. Not one dad of a talented player (committed or not) ever complains about older kids. It's always from a Dad who's kid has received no looks!

While this is a 202 board, realize that the on-age vs holdback issue goes down to younger boys where the issue is definitely a problem that is not present in HS age boys. Sometimes you need to open your eyes to the big picture, and not just see the microcosm of your own little piece of things.

"My guess your son is a holdback". You are a genius. My best Sherlock Holmes leads me to believe your phone has not rang once asking about your boy.?? I thought so. And there you clowns go again with 13 vs 16. You lose what little credibility you have. Maybe some islolated examples of 16 vs 14 1/2 but nobody who matters cares.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"My guess your son is a holdback". You are a genius. My best Sherlock Holmes leads me to believe your phone has not rang once asking about your boy.?? I thought so. And there you clowns go again with 13 vs 16. You lose what little credibility you have. Maybe some islolated examples of 16 vs 14 1/2 but nobody who matters cares.

Wrong again genius. There were many 2020's this past season that were 13 and did not turn 14 until after June. So it is 16 vs. 13 and not 14.5 (that's 14 1/2 in case you don't understand). There are many who care, and those people are much more upstanding than you, who has to have his son be a holdback in order to compete because I bet if your kid was on age he would not be able to keep up.
There are those who are concerned about holdbacks, obviously you are not one of them, you worship them, so why not just not bother reading about those who have an issue with holdbacks or if you do read about it, afterwards just STFU. You are an absolute idiot with zero accountability.

There is nothing isolated about the rampant abuse of holdbacks playing against younger kids for Looneys/FCA/Crabs. Its how the Baltimore private schools operate. Whittle Johnny Balzac is not good enough to play against his friends - lets keep him back a year or two so he can beat up on the younger boys. It will feel so good.

Confirmed. Your phone didn't ring. Hahah. . How does it feel to be planning your family's vacation times and budgeting for the recruiting showcase circuit all over again. Enjoy that loser..

What team does your son play for?? No one seems to want to answer that question

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Feel like Edge puts a ton into looking their best in the fall while many other programs look towards the summer and are less focused on the fall. More laid back approach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Confirmed. Your phone didn't ring. Hahah. . How does it feel to be planning your family's vacation times and budgeting for the recruiting showcase circuit all over again. Enjoy that loser..

You seem to be the biggest loser here. You johnny boy had to be held back in order to be able to compete with younger kids. And I call BS, you kid has not committed, your statement about vacation and showcases is what you will be doing again next summer. Wow, how much extra did it cost you in tuition for that extra year that didn't pay off. Since your kid doesn't have it by now there is a good chance he never will. Save some money, go get him a set of golf clubs and be done with lacrosse. Plus, if you knew anything about early committing, coaches are not allowed to contact kids when they are freshman, and I assume that is what your kid is since this is a 2020 forum. So again, BS to YOUR phone ringing, unless it is your wife asking if you did the dishes and cleaned the house. See you loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing isolated about the rampant abuse of holdbacks playing against younger kids for Looneys/FCA/Crabs. Its how the Baltimore private schools operate. Whittle Johnny Balzac is not good enough to play against his friends - lets keep him back a year or two so he can beat up on the younger boys. It will feel so good.

And you think this only goes on in Baltimore and not NY, NJ, Pa etc? If you do, you are delusional and completely out of touch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

yep the brand of beating the American teams... scores are usually pretty lopsided.. so parents pull the your kids are soo much older..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

Rematch between Edge and Looneys would be great! Looneys would now loose by a large margin, and complaining and whining the whole time. Hope it happens soon to put this to rest

Hard Cor from Canada has obviously followed the same idea as Edge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hard Cor from Canada has obviously followed the same idea as Edge.

Yup, overage hockey goons "playing" lacrosse. What a F'n joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

Rematch between Edge and Looneys would be great! Looneys would now loose by a large margin, and complaining and whining the whole time. Hope it happens soon to put this to rest

. So Edge could play their OVERAGE THUGS again and continue their headhunting/thug sh*t. This game was play a year ago, someone mentioned this game and what transpired yet it seems an Edge coach responded saying LAST year in capital letters and also indicated Looney's WAS talented but shows no respect to Looneys or anyone else. As far as I am concerned nothing would make me happier than for your club to stay out of the US and stay the [lacrosse] in Canada. Your reputation sucks and it is not just the Looneys 2020 game. It goes beyond that, it has happened many times in many games. Why not just play lacrosse the way it should be played and knock off the thug behavior. Or, are Edge teams coached that wY.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

Rematch between Edge and Looneys would be great! Looneys would now loose by a large margin, and complaining and whining the whole time. Hope it happens soon to put this to rest

. So Edge could play their OVERAGE THUGS again and continue their headhunting/thug sh*t. This game was play a year ago, someone mentioned this game and what transpired yet it seems an Edge coach responded saying LAST year in capital letters and also indicated Looney's WAS talented but shows no respect to Looneys or anyone else. As far as I am concerned nothing would make me happier than for your club to stay out of the US and stay the [lacrosse] in Canada. Your reputation sucks and it is not just the Looneys 2020 game. It goes beyond that, it has happened many times in many games. Why not just play lacrosse the way it should be played and knock off the thug behavior. Or, are Edge teams coached that wY.

You sound like a bitter loser. Edge is a solid team that is rocking some of the Ill prepared wimpy prep school complainers. Why does that bother you so much? I am not an edge parent, but respect a talented team. All you people complaining about holdbacks need to take a closer look at your own team. Stop being jealous of all the edge boys who are being actively recruited as we speak. Our team welcomes the competition brought by Edge, if violations are committed, they will be called. Please stop your complaining

typical idiotic attitude.. Canadians are making lacrosse more popular.. you are just jealous college coaches love Canadian players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

Rematch between Edge and Looneys would be great! Looneys would now loose by a large margin, and complaining and whining the whole time. Hope it happens soon to put this to rest

. So Edge could play their OVERAGE THUGS again and continue their headhunting/thug sh*t. This game was play a year ago, someone mentioned this game and what transpired yet it seems an Edge coach responded saying LAST year in capital letters and also indicated Looney's WAS talented but shows no respect to Looneys or anyone else. As far as I am concerned nothing would make me happier than for your club to stay out of the US and stay the [lacrosse] in Canada. Your reputation sucks and it is not just the Looneys 2020 game. It goes beyond that, it has happened many times in many games. Why not just play lacrosse the way it should be played and knock off the thug behavior. Or, are Edge teams coached that wY.

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

My phone doesn't have to ring . My son competes at the highest level
And plays against crush , edge, crabs etc. in addition he has a 95 avg recieves a ademic honors and will go where ever he chooses. Considering your son is a hold back and couldn't make the grades I guess you can't say the same. That is the reason he is held back correct? Because anything else is just cheating the system .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Def from a Crab parent.

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

Rematch between Edge and Looneys would be great! Looneys would now loose by a large margin, and complaining and whining the whole time. Hope it happens soon to put this to rest

Looney's would lose by a wide margin, why, because you have even more older players on Edge 2020 now? You just don't get it, Edge doesn't have a favorable reputation in the US. Not because of wins or losses but simply because how their teams play, like thugs and the fact that they are older than their counterparts. You will never admit it but we know its true. People keep saying all born 2001, check their passports etc. I call bs on that. No one is taking anything away from any talented Edge player, but how they play, like the Looney's game last year, is disgusting.
I'm the one who posted about last years Looney's game a few days ago. I'm not associated with Looney's, my son just finished a game on the next field and he wanted to see Looney's play so we watched the game. Yes, it was a disgusting display of unsportsmanship and continued throughout the game. I know it is now grade based but when you have true 2018's playing on a 2020 lacrosse team, something is seriously wrong. Being older is one thing, but being older and bigger and playing like they did in last years Looney's game is going too far and that is what needs to be stoped.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Missing.The.Point! But, not surprising . . .

How did Edge do this weekend at the Big4 Tourney?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Gladly have us show our passports.. you contradict yourself and go on and say they are 2018. just a dumb comment.. if all born in 2001 then in your mind thats a 2018 team eh good math... Don't call bs ask simple.. you are just afraid to be proven wrong and then you would have nothing else to complain about.. what team does your son play for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Edge do this weekend at the Big4 Tourney?

not great lost 8-7 to LIE lost 9-8 to 89+2 and lost 7-5 to bbl another game against a weak team as they let down after coming so close to 89-2. That game could have went either way. Can't wait for the summer when one gets to play through an event!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

I always love how the cheap holdback parents don't want to hear that they are the problem with lacrosse right now. They want us all to forget that their kid can't compete on age. My 2020 who just turned 14 does fine against the holdbacks. If I dropped him to 2021 he would be a dominant force. He does it with skill. Most holdbacks do it with size and physical maturity. If your holdback is so great, play in a varsity division. Show your kid can play with older kids. Right now all you show is your kid can't cut it, unless he is 1-2 years older. Sad!

I would rather boycott the lousy teams like DC express, Madlax, black wolf etc and play a competitive team like Edge, Looney's FCA, Crabs, Crush everytime!! Our boys are in high school now. Don't know about you but my kid hope to be in the mix on his varsity team and that will be against 2017 and 2018's. I really don't understand it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Haha, will never happen, you would then have to walk off when playing Crush, Laxachusettes, FCA, Crabs, etc. And that's where all the coaches are watching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gladly have us show our passports.. you contradict yourself and go on and say they are 2018. just a dumb comment.. if all born in 2001 then in your mind thats a 2018 team eh good math... Don't call bs ask simple.. you are just afraid to be proven wrong and then you would have nothing else to complain about.. what team does your son play for?

No one is afraid to be proven wrong. An edge poster is the one who said all born 2001 and another said playing 2018 hockey because it is age based. Never said 2001 equates to 2018. DOB year 2000 is 2018 grad year, simple math.
You can't have it both ways, having 2000's playing 2018 hockey and then playing 2020 lacrosse. Seems these players are 16 maybe close to 17 and in the 9th grade. Around here, 14 year olds are in the 9th grade.
My son plays for a 2020 AA team, not an elite team but he has several friends who play for Looney's, that's why we stopped to watch the game last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would rather boycott the lousy teams like DC express, Madlax, black wolf etc and play a competitive team like Edge, Looney's FCA, Crabs, Crush everytime!! Our boys are in high school now. Don't know about you but my kid hope to be in the mix on his varsity team and that will be against 2017 and 2018's. I really don't understand it.

Well then just start a mini-NLF. Also, a lot of the players on your lousy boycott teams will be doing what your kid is doing, fighting for a varsity spot this spring, and most of them on top 5, 10, or 20 HS teams in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Edge do this weekend at the Big4 Tourney?

not great lost 8-7 to LIE lost 9-8 to 89+2 and lost 7-5 to bbl another game against a weak team as they let down after coming so close to 89-2. That game could have went either way. Can't wait for the summer when one gets to play through an event!!

Lost to 89+2 by one and BBL by two? How did BBL do against 89+2? Not well I'd guess, which makes me who was taking the field for Edge in one of those games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

I always love how the cheap holdback parents don't want to hear that they are the problem with lacrosse right now. They want us all to forget that their kid can't compete on age. My 2020 who just turned 14 does fine against the holdbacks. If I dropped him to 2021 he would be a dominant force. He does it with skill. Most holdbacks do it with size and physical maturity. If your holdback is so great, play in a varsity division. Show your kid can play with older kids. Right now all you show is your kid can't cut it, unless he is 1-2 years older. Sad!

They also don't want to admit that the problem didn't just emerge when the boys are in 9th or 10th grade - these same boys have been playing down for a number of years prior to that, and THAT is the real problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Edge do this weekend at the Big4 Tourney?

not great lost 8-7 to LIE lost 9-8 to 89+2 and lost 7-5 to bbl another game against a weak team as they let down after coming so close to 89-2. That game could have went either way. Can't wait for the summer when one gets to play through an event!!

Lost to 89+2 by one and BBL by two? How did BBL do against 89+2? Not well I'd guess, which makes me who was taking the field for Edge in one of those games.

yes some kids didn't get in at all against 89+2 so they played the 3/4 of the game agt BBL still BBL came back from 5-1 to win 7-5 good on them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

plan your boycott now edge is back at Big 4HHH june 17-18 Crabfeast June 24-25 and NLF 15-16. Ask your coach to boycott those tournaments and you may be looking for a new team next spring.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Haha, will never happen, you would then have to walk off when playing Crush, Laxachusettes, FCA, Crabs, etc. And that's where all the coaches are watching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

plan your boycott now edge is back at Big 4HHH june 17-18 Crabfeast June 24-25 and NLF 15-16. Ask your coach to boycott those tournaments and you may be looking for a new team next spring.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Haha, will never happen, you would then have to walk off when playing Crush, Laxachusettes, FCA, Crabs, etc. And that's where all the coaches are watching

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Unfortunately you're probably right, it won't happen. But, if it did, wouldn't it be a beautiful thing to see, a massive protest against Edge, not for who they are but for what they stand for and how they game the system and say it is because of the way their school system works and it is different than the US school systems. Who cares, have your players play in the proper age bracket regardless if it is grade base because your grade base is way different than ours. We do not have 16 year old 9th graders in massive numbers.

THey don't either.. No 16 year olds on the team try reading next time.. in grade 9 you are 14

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

plan your boycott now edge is back at Big 4HHH june 17-18 Crabfeast June 24-25 and NLF 15-16. Ask your coach to boycott those tournaments and you may be looking for a new team next spring.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Haha, will never happen, you would then have to walk off when playing Crush, Laxachusettes, FCA, Crabs, etc. And that's where all the coaches are watching

[/quote

Unfortunately you're probably right, it won't happen. But, if it did, wouldn't it be a beautiful thing to see, a massive protest against Edge, not for who they are but for what they stand for and how they game the system and say it is because of the way their school system works and it is different than the US school systems. Who cares, have your players play in the proper age bracket regardless if it is grade base because your grade base is way different than ours. We do not have 16 year old 9th graders in massive numbers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

plan your boycott now edge is back at Big 4HHH june 17-18 Crabfeast June 24-25 and NLF 15-16. Ask your coach to boycott those tournaments and you may be looking for a new team next spring.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Haha, will never happen, you would then have to walk off when playing Crush, Laxachusettes, FCA, Crabs, etc. And that's where all the coaches are watching

[/quote

Unfortunately you're probably right, it won't happen. But, if it did, wouldn't it be a beautiful thing to see, a massive protest against Edge, not for who they are but for what they stand for and how they game the system and say it is because of the way their school system works and it is different than the US school systems. Who cares, have your players play in the proper age bracket regardless if it is grade base because your grade base is way different than ours. We do not have 16 year old 9th graders in massive numbers.

dude you have to lose the 16 year old tag the entire team is 15 except two boys who are 14 as they have December birthdays. All kids born in 2001. Lose this 16 year shite your delusional

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

plan your boycott now edge is back at Big 4HHH june 17-18 Crabfeast June 24-25 and NLF 15-16. Ask your coach to boycott those tournaments and you may be looking for a new team next spring.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Haha, will never happen, you would then have to walk off when playing Crush, Laxachusettes, FCA, Crabs, etc. And that's where all the coaches are watching

[/quote

Unfortunately you're probably right, it won't happen. But, if it did, wouldn't it be a beautiful thing to see, a massive protest against Edge, not for who they are but for what they stand for and how they game the system and say it is because of the way their school system works and it is different than the US school systems. Who cares, have your players play in the proper age bracket regardless if it is grade base because your grade base is way different than ours. We do not have 16 year old 9th graders in massive numbers.

The problem is all teams have hold backs, you should just refuse to play for your own team if you feel so strongly. Why single out Edge when most other teams are doing the same thing? Look at the ages on the college rosters, this is not a new thing, and useless US Lacrosse refuses to address it. I don't like it, but it's the way it is. Look at as a challenge. My son has played Edge, it was a great game and the parents were very nice, not any different than playing Crabs, FCA or Laxachusettes. Great tough competition, good preparation for varsity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Edge do this weekend at the Big4 Tourney?

not great lost 8-7 to LIE lost 9-8 to 89+2 and lost 7-5 to bbl another game against a weak team as they let down after coming so close to 89-2. That game could have went either way. Can't wait for the summer when one gets to play through an event!!

Lost to 89+2 by one and BBL by two? How did BBL do against 89+2? Not well I'd guess, which makes me who was taking the field for Edge in one of those games.

yes some kids didn't get in at all against 89+2 so they played the 3/4 of the game agt BBL still BBL came back from 5-1 to win 7-5 good on them

So not only is Edge cheating the system with holdbacks, but cheating its own players by not giving them an opportunity to be seen by coaches against the best talent. Apparently, the Edge coaches don't know that scores don't matter. Having players get seen is what matters at this age. Indefensible.

The fact that the whole team is '01 birthday they should be playing in '19 events OR better yet tournaments adopt a cutoff date. for grade based until yuou just call it "varsity" . but whaa, whaa waha i know. yes my son is 14 and has not hit puberty yet... hanging in there look forward for his sake when he grows...

I will say again.. the only people complaining about hold backs are the parents of Soft, small avg players.. Bootom line... if you are going to ban anyone make it the lousy teams.. who doesn't welcome big physical talented teams to compete against?? The boys are in Highshool bring on Edge 2018!!! We could all use the reps to make it easier to transition to High school ball in the Spring.

THey don't either.. No 16 year olds on the team try reading next time.. in grade 9 you are 14

I did read, and it is clear that Edge 2020 players are 16 and if they are playing 2020 they are in the 9th grade. Not that hard to figure out and understand.
This is information provided either directly or accidently by Edge people/parents/fans.
You need to stop denying the true facts and live up to how Edge and other Canadian teams operate. Why do think Edge is so disliked by so many US club teams, in NY, NJ MD and Pa.? Not because you may win a game, but because of how it is operated and how your system works. There are no 14 year old 9th graders on Edge 2020. Period. [lacrosse], someone from Edge says all 2020's were born 2001. Do the math, that is not 14. You can't even keep your bs straight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will say again.. the only people complaining about hold backs are the parents of Soft, small avg players.. Bootom line... if you are going to ban anyone make it the lousy teams.. who doesn't welcome big physical talented teams to compete against?? The boys are in Highshool bring on Edge 2018!!! We could all use the reps to make it easier to transition to High school ball in the Spring.

People who say "man up, be tough" are they same people who have positioned their kids to do the exact opposite, which is what makes the rest of us shake our heads in disbelief. The disconnect between what you say and what you do is comical.

"They are in High School now..." is a red herring argument frequently used by holdback advocates. Nobody gets recruited from High School, kids are evaluated and selected based on their performance at recruiting tournaments and showcases. In that setting a 15-year old 2019 is still at a disadvantage against a 17-year old 2019. The ones who are getting the most benefit are the ones who were just average against their peers but now look very impressive against younger smaller competition.

On the HS field *most* freshmen and sophomores are playing JV, the ones who don't truly are playing up but they know what they are getting themselves into. For the select few who have the skills and size, playing against older kids helps, but I'm pretty sure those kids would do fine anyway, after all, if I look good playing agains older kids, I'll look great playing against my peers...does anyone disagree with that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

plan your boycott now edge is back at Big 4HHH june 17-18 Crabfeast June 24-25 and NLF 15-16. Ask your coach to boycott those tournaments and you may be looking for a new team next spring.

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Haha, will never happen, you would then have to walk off when playing Crush, Laxachusettes, FCA, Crabs, etc. And that's where all the coaches are watching

[/quote

Unfortunately you're probably right, it won't happen. But, if it did, wouldn't it be a beautiful thing to see, a massive protest against Edge, not for who they are but for what they stand for and how they game the system and say it is because of the way their school system works and it is different than the US school systems. Who cares, have your players play in the proper age bracket regardless if it is grade base because your grade base is way different than ours. We do not have 16 year old 9th graders in massive numbers.

dude you have to lose the 16 year old tag the entire team is 15 except two boys who are 14 as they have December birthdays. All kids born in 2001. Lose this 16 year shite your delusional

Well dude, you seem to be the one that is delusional. Do the math dude, 2001 is 2019, not 2020 dude. So why don't you take your 2020 team with all the 2001 players and play in the 2019 bracket? Oh, I know your answer dude, it is because the are in the 2020 grade. Pathetic. I still think there are some 16 year olds on that 2020 team, why else would some of them be playing 2018 hockey, which is age based. Answer that dude. Not going to lose the 16 year old sh*t because many believe it is there.

Anyone receive roster and game time info for NLF individual showcase?

No but so glad you asked because I was wondering the same thing. . . .

My son is 2001, born in December and a legit 2020, dumb [lacrosse] dude. Get your facts straight before shooting off your mouth

Any dad who has a 2020 kid (a freshman in HS) and is still complaining about the age of his opponents is a loser and needs to get a life.

What's next: asking the HS to produce 4 teams, one for each grade?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is 2001, born in December and a legit 2020, dumb [lacrosse] dude. Get your facts straight before shooting off your mouth

. I have been reading this discussion for the past day and need to post a question regarding a statement about 2pages back. That was, some of the 2020 players for Edge were missing from a weekend tournament because of playing AAA hockey, which is age based, according to the poster. Poster stated they have to play 2018 because it is age based but then further stated these hockey players play 2020 lacrosse, which is grade based. I have seen ages ranging from 14 to 16. Could someone please explain the hockey statement regarding 2018 age base vs 2020 grade base lacrosse. I'm guessing 2018 age base would make kids 16 years old. Confusing.

If you re read someone was being a smartass and said I fixed the post for you and you have kids playing AAA HOCEY 2018 which they were trying to be a troll and be funny... the original post says missing kids for AAA hockey no talk about 2018 it's someone saying idiotic comments to stir the pot.. typical

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is 2001, born in December and a legit 2020, dumb [lacrosse] dude. Get your facts straight before shooting off your mouth

. I have been reading this discussion for the past day and need to post a question regarding a statement about 2pages back. That was, some of the 2020 players for Edge were missing from a weekend tournament because of playing AAA hockey, which is age based, according to the poster. Poster stated they have to play 2018 because it is age based but then further stated these hockey players play 2020 lacrosse, which is grade based. I have seen ages ranging from 14 to 16. Could someone please explain the hockey statement regarding 2018 age base vs 2020 grade base lacrosse. I'm guessing 2018 age base would make kids 16 years old. Confusing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is 2001, born in December and a legit 2020, dumb [lacrosse] dude. Get your facts straight before shooting off your mouth

. I have been reading this discussion for the past day and need to post a question regarding a statement about 2pages back. That was, some of the 2020 players for Edge were missing from a weekend tournament because of playing AAA hockey, which is age based, according to the poster. Poster stated they have to play 2018 because it is age based but then further stated these hockey players play 2020 lacrosse, which is grade based. I have seen ages ranging from 14 to 16. Could someone please explain the hockey statement regarding 2018 age base vs 2020 grade base lacrosse. I'm guessing 2018 age base would make kids 16 years old. Confusing.

this statement was a sarcastic response to edge poster

"I think Fixed it for you: Edge is missing it's top 4 offensive players and top 2 D men that are playing on age as 2018's in AAA hockey, but play lacrosse as 2020's to land scholarship to US school in case they dont catch on in hockey"

I believe other posters took this as someone saying their 2018 hockey players playing 2020. It seems the edge posters are direct in saying they organize their teams by birth year and 2001 play 2020. Which unfortunately probably matches with the majority of us teams.

Long Island should start organizing by age, only play in age based tournaments and other regions would follow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any dad who has a 2020 kid (a freshman in HS) and is still complaining about the age of his opponents is a loser and needs to get a life.

What's next: asking the HS to produce 4 teams, one for each grade?

Any dad who makes sure his son plays against kids 1-2 years younger is a tool. If your kid is so great play in the varsity division. Man up and play up. When high school comes around, no one complains about age, but this isn't high school.

When people complain about 2020 holdbacks, they are focusing on club lacrosse (where holdback parents are trying to gain a recruiting advantage) and not on HS lacrosse.

The high school argument is just a smoke screen for holdback parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any dad who has a 2020 kid (a freshman in HS) and is still complaining about the age of his opponents is a loser and needs to get a life.

What's next: asking the HS to produce 4 teams, one for each grade?

Any dad who makes sure his son plays against kids 1-2 years younger is a tool. If your kid is so great play in the varsity division. Man up and play up. When high school comes around, no one complains about age, but this isn't high school.

Actually, this is High School now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any dad who has a 2020 kid (a freshman in HS) and is still complaining about the age of his opponents is a loser and needs to get a life.

What's next: asking the HS to produce 4 teams, one for each grade?

Any dad who makes sure his son plays against kids 1-2 years younger is a tool. If your kid is so great play in the varsity division. Man up and play up. When high school comes around, no one complains about age, but this isn't high school.

Actually, this is High School now.

maybe his kid is a holdback so he is 2002 born but in great 8. Or maybe he is just dumb and can't count

Calling someone dumb after you write great 8 is kind of ironic don't you think?

If your kid is 16 in 9th grade, better off forgetting sports and hiring a tutor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Calling someone dumb after you write great 8 is kind of ironic don't you think?

very funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any dad who has a 2020 kid (a freshman in HS) and is still complaining about the age of his opponents is a loser and needs to get a life.

What's next: asking the HS to produce 4 teams, one for each grade?

Any dad who makes sure his son plays against kids 1-2 years younger is a tool. If your kid is so great play in the varsity division. Man up and play up. When high school comes around, no one complains about age, but this isn't high school.

even if you play JV those kids can range in age from 14-16 so a grade 9 is still playing kids older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Calling someone dumb after you write great 8 is kind of ironic don't you think?

very funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any dad who has a 2020 kid (a freshman in HS) and is still complaining about the age of his opponents is a loser and needs to get a life.

What's next: asking the HS to produce 4 teams, one for each grade?

Any dad who makes sure his son plays against kids 1-2 years younger is a tool. If your kid is so great play in the varsity division. Man up and play up. When high school comes around, no one complains about age, but this isn't high school.

even if you play JV those kids can range in age from 14-16 so a grade 9 is still playing kids older.

is there a schedule anywhere for the philly freshman tournament

The only Tudor that turning "16" year old freshman will need is when he gets to his top IVY school to make sure he maintains his 4.0 GPA he is carrying over from high school. You anti holdback whiner dads with soft kids are all tools.

Majority of recruiting for college lacrosse is done at the club level which is grouped by graduation year. When a 16 year old 8th grader is playing against 13 and 14 years old he is naturally going to look better.

Eventually this scourge will disappear once everyone is forced to go grade based.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only Tudor that turning "16" year old freshman will need is when he gets to his top IVY school to make sure he maintains his 4.0 GPA he is carrying over from high school. You anti holdback whiner dads with soft kids are all tools.

tudor is era in British history Einstein and his older brother. The word your looking for here is Tutor.

philly freshman schedule is up on tourneymachine.com

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid is 16 in 9th grade, better off forgetting sports and hiring a tutor.

Why? If you are in private school and did prefirst, there is a good chance you would turn 16 towards the Spring of your Freshman year. Why would you give up sports? Why would you automatically need a tutor? The kids you are mocking are likely to be very smart, and they didn't do perfirst for sports, rather, they did so die to the curriculum at their school. Maybe you could have benefited from prefirst.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

philly freshman schedule is up on tourneymachine.com thku

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"if violations are committed, they will be called" Really? By whom??! When have you ever seen or heard a tournament and/or USAL call out a team for player ages when they are grade-based? The reason the Edge boys play at a higher age level in hockey is because hockey (and soccer) have gone to age-based systems of play, and with good reason, mostly for all the same problems you dismiss exist with holdbacks. And these sports are stronger because of it.

really Canadian Punks go look up the meaning of the word punk these are nice 14 and 15 year old boys trying to find a way to combine athletics and learning at the Univesrity level "Punks" don't do that. That is way overboard

Toughen up and stop crying. Edge is playing by the rules, every team has older players, including yours. The boys are in HS now, give it a break. if you don't like it don't play lacrosse. About a third of the college freshman lax players I know have a 20 year old roommate. Sounds like badminton may be a better option for your son. But you'd probably find something to complain about there too

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

was at the game the player involved no longer plays for Edge. The irony here is the Looney's get to that type of play again Sunday when they face Hardcor who will quickly make all those offended forget abot Edge

Looney's parents should not be calling anybody else out for bad behavior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only Tudor that turning "16" year old freshman will need is when he gets to his top IVY school to make sure he maintains his 4.0 GPA he is carrying over from high school. You anti holdback whiner dads with soft kids are all tools.

So funny that you call parents with on age kids soft, when your holdback can only compete with younger kids. What a wuss you must be raising. As far as Ivy schools go, I doubt a parent that is seeking a "Tudor" for his kid is raising a 4.0 student.

Difference for most of these reclassed kid is "1st round draft pick vs 3-4th round if stayed on age. Whiner dads have soft players regardless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only Tudor that turning "16" year old freshman will need is when he gets to his top IVY school to make sure he maintains his 4.0 GPA he is carrying over from high school. You anti holdback whiner dads with soft kids are all tools.

So funny that you call parents with on age kids soft, when your holdback can only compete with younger kids. What a wuss you must be raising. As far as Ivy schools go, I doubt a parent that is seeking a "Tudor" for his kid is raising a 4.0 student.

Frankly, surprised that OP can spell Ivy.

I really don't understand why someone who wants his 12, 13, 14 or 15 year old to compete against kids his own age make him a wuss. 16 and older fine but when they are younger than 16 - age can make a huge difference. If you disagree and want your son to play against older kids then you can have your child play up. There is no logical reason to play down except that the child is not good enough or not dominant enough when playing on age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

[/quote]

You'd be walking off almost every field. As would all the teams. No one wants to point fingers because EVERYONE is guilty.

Shameful. Sadly this will end badly when a kid is seriously injured by a bigger holdback and US Lacrosse is forced to address the situation when their insurance carrier, Bollinger Sports, demands it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

You'd be walking off almost every field. As would all the teams. No one wants to point fingers because EVERYONE is guilty.

Shameful. Sadly this will end badly when a kid is seriously injured by a bigger holdback and US Lacrosse is forced to address the situation when their insurance carrier, Bollinger Sports, demands it. [/quote]

2020 is High School now. Who cares if Edge is typically a year older; take that weak nonsense to the youth forum.

or you could just man up and play the game not caring who wins or loses and potentially getting better in the process. Now go back to your election protest you damn cry baby.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really don't understand why someone who wants his 12, 13, 14 or 15 year old to compete against kids his own age make him a wuss. 16 and older fine but when they are younger than 16 - age can make a huge difference. If you disagree and want your son to play against older kids then you can have your child play up. There is no logical reason to play down except that the child is not good enough or not dominant enough when playing on age.

you say 16 this year last year you said 15 and next year you will say 17. Aghast when your son if he makes it enteres college at 18/19 may play a 23 year old

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

You'd be walking off almost every field. As would all the teams. No one wants to point fingers because EVERYONE is guilty.

Shameful. Sadly this will end badly when a kid is seriously injured by a bigger holdback and US Lacrosse is forced to address the situation when their insurance carrier, Bollinger Sports, demands it.

2020 is High School now. Who cares if Edge is typically a year older; take that weak nonsense to the youth forum. [/quote]

Yes, you are desperate to have people stop writing about your holdback's inability to play with kids his own age. In high school the older kids are upper classman, not some kid who couldn't make it with his own class and had to find younger kids to try to exploit. Let's be honest, that is weak. 2020 is a high school age, but not a varsity team. You want to apply varsity ages, but don't want to be the correct grade to go along with it. Stop hiding behind a false argument and just admit, your kid can't cut if he plays on age. We all know it about holdbacks, just say it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

You'd be walking off almost every field. As would all the teams. No one wants to point fingers because EVERYONE is guilty.

Shameful. Sadly this will end badly when a kid is seriously injured by a bigger holdback and US Lacrosse is forced to address the situation when their insurance carrier, Bollinger Sports, demands it.

2020 is High School now. Who cares if Edge is typically a year older; take that weak nonsense to the youth forum. [/quote]

Just cause kids are in High School now does not mean that people are not gaming the system. Although their age is an issue, when it come to Edge people are more concerned with their style of play, which could be best characterized as dirty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really don't understand why someone who wants his 12, 13, 14 or 15 year old to compete against kids his own age make him a wuss. 16 and older fine but when they are younger than 16 - age can make a huge difference. If you disagree and want your son to play against older kids then you can have your child play up. There is no logical reason to play down except that the child is not good enough or not dominant enough when playing on age.

you say 16 this year last year you said 15 and next year you will say 17. Aghast when your son if he makes it enteres college at 18/19 may play a 23 year old

Common holdback drivel, easily refuted. A 19-year old is basically a man, not much physical difference between him and a 23 year old - why he's still in college I don't know but I digress...

This is not the case with 13-15 year olds where even six months can make a huge difference, which is exactly what holdback parents of average athletes are hoping for, while they tell the rest of us to play up, such hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

was at the game the player involved no longer plays for Edge. The irony here is the Looney's get to that type of play again Sunday when they face Hardcor who will quickly make all those offended forget abot Edge

I was also at that game a year ago and it was more than one player playing out of control and getting called for illegal hits etc. It's a shame edge played like this. I have not seen them since last year and I sincerely hope then have changed how they play. Being 2020's all of the kids on every team needs to realize that most all of their games this fall and next year will be recruiting/showcase and have college coaches watching. Believe me, coaches don't want to see this and if they do, kids who play like that are quickly overlooked. It is up to the 2020 club coaches to keep reminding their players of this and to just have them go out and have a good/solid game to get positive attention. Playing like a goon will quickly get you much negative attention.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are double holdbacks - I talked to a dad who said his son is turning 16 a week or so. Very nice guy, offered it up during our conversation. It has an impact but there's nothing you can do about it given the system.

Many people, if not most, have no respect for the Edge program, All of their players are older at every level, its just the way it is. But... to have 2018's playing on a 2018 hockey team but playing on a 2020 lacrosse team is absolutely wrong and is cheating and gaming the system way over the top.

Also, most are tiered of hearing that is the way their school system is and that is way blah blah blah. Then how come these 2018's play on a 2018 hockey team but on a 2020 lacrosse team. Simple, because they are way older than most 2020 lacrosse players.
I saw Edge play Looney's last fall in a tournament in Bel Air, Md. and it was the most disgusting game I have ever seen in youth lacrosse. Edge players much older and bigger and all they were trying to do was physically injure the other teams players. There were so many penalties against Edge I lost count. The refs called the game with about 3 or 4 minutes left, that's how bad it was. Bright spot, Looney's beat these thugs 9 or 10 to 1.

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

was at the game the player involved no longer plays for Edge. The irony here is the Looney's get to that type of play again Sunday when they face Hardcor who will quickly make all those offended forget abot Edge

I was also at that game a year ago and it was more than one player playing out of control and getting called for illegal hits etc. It's a shame edge played like this. I have not seen them since last year and I sincerely hope then have changed how they play. Being 2020's all of the kids on every team needs to realize that most all of their games this fall and next year will be recruiting/showcase and have college coaches watching. Believe me, coaches don't want to see this and if they do, kids who play like that are quickly overlooked. It is up to the 2020 club coaches to keep reminding their players of this and to just have them go out and have a good/solid game to get positive attention. Playing like a goon will quickly get you much negative attention.

The kid youre talking about is now committed to a top school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

You'd be walking off almost every field. As would all the teams. No one wants to point fingers because EVERYONE is guilty.

Shameful. Sadly this will end badly when a kid is seriously injured by a bigger holdback and US Lacrosse is forced to address the situation when their insurance carrier, Bollinger Sports, demands it.

2020 is High School now. Who cares if Edge is typically a year older; take that weak nonsense to the youth forum.

Just cause kids are in High School now does not mean that people are not gaming the system. Although their age is an issue, when it come to Edge people are more concerned with their style of play, which could be best characterized as dirty. [/quote]

Ok bitter Looneys dad, go back to your own thread. We know you're mad that your kid got smoked by the Edge player, but it is time to let it go. The college coaches live the Edge boys, the majority of the players are being heavily recruited as we speak.

Edge players are highly athletic , very skilled , and very physical. They play tough . It is a contact sport and if intimidation is a part of their game then so be it. Toughen up or don't play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very simple way to handle these Canadian punks. Just refuse the game at game time. Do warm ups, and walk of the field in protest. If teams did this every time, they'd either stop coming to tournaments or change their behavior. Tell your coach and your director to grow a pair and walk off the field. No reason to play. A, the younger team is not going to look good, and B, they risk injury. It's the only way. US Lacrosse is useless, tournament directors just care about money and college coaches are oblivious. There are NO RULES. #walkoffthefield

You'd be walking off almost every field. As would all the teams. No one wants to point fingers because EVERYONE is guilty.

Shameful. Sadly this will end badly when a kid is seriously injured by a bigger holdback and US Lacrosse is forced to address the situation when their insurance carrier, Bollinger Sports, demands it.

2020 is High School now. Who cares if Edge is typically a year older; take that weak nonsense to the youth forum.

Just cause kids are in High School now does not mean that people are not gaming the system. Although their age is an issue, when it come to Edge people are more concerned with their style of play, which could be best characterized as dirty.

Ok bitter Looneys dad, go back to your own thread. We know you're mad that your kid got smoked by the Edge player, but it is time to let it go. The college coaches live the Edge boys, the majority of the players are being heavily recruited as we speak. [/quote]

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The entire Edge team is born in 2001. Our whole team will have turned 15 by December 31st. The team reclassed after playing tournaments against 2019 teams who were a year or two older then them. Why do parents keep saying their kids are born in 2002. It's extremely obvious the difference between a 2001 and 2002 born player.

As for the Looneys game ONE YEAR AGO. I agree that it was a disgrace as the kids were beating up on the THEN more skilled Looneys team. If you have watched our team this fall you would know that it is way different. Our Edge team can beat any team in the country, including 89+2. We lost by one while missing one of our Hopkins middies, a top pole, and two of our three starting attack with injuries and hockey. Let's see what happens next weekend in Long Island😀

As for that Looney's game...at the time it only confirmed what many of us had seen firsthand, thuggish play and headhunting leaving a trail of injuries behind, topped off by crude parents...eh. Unfortunately that is your organization's "brand" down here now, a lot of rebuilding to do there since everyone has heard about "that team from Canada".

was at the game the player involved no longer plays for Edge. The irony here is the Looney's get to that type of play again Sunday when they face Hardcor who will quickly make all those offended forget abot Edge

I was also at that game a year ago and it was more than one player playing out of control and getting called for illegal hits etc. It's a shame edge played like this. I have not seen them since last year and I sincerely hope then have changed how they play. Being 2020's all of the kids on every team needs to realize that most all of their games this fall and next year will be recruiting/showcase and have college coaches watching. Believe me, coaches don't want to see this and if they do, kids who play like that are quickly overlooked. It is up to the 2020 club coaches to keep reminding their players of this and to just have them go out and have a good/solid game to get positive attention. Playing like a goon will quickly get you much negative attention.

The kid youre talking about is now committed to a top school

Well that top school is getting pretty desperate for success in the NCAA tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge players are highly athletic , very skilled , and very physical. They play tough . It is a contact sport and if intimidation is a part of their game then so be it. Toughen up or don't play.

There is a big difference between playing like that and playing like a goon and deliberately trying to hurt somebody.
Haven't you realized, the NCAA and on field official's are trying to take the unnecessary hits out of the game. True, it is a contact sport but not to the extreme that a player tries to injure another. That is not how the game was meant to be played. It is not a contact sport like football. I guess you could care less about concussions. Are you going to say that is also part of the game. I'm from NY and if we never saw an edge team again that would be fine with us. Goon squads are not welcome or appreciated in this sport. Pay attention to the direction lacrosse officials are trying to take this game, and eliminate the bs you described out of the game of lacrosse. Ice hockey mentality doesn't fit lacrosse.

The kid youre talking about is now committed to a top school [/quote]

Which school? I'd only believe it if I saw it.

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet. [/quote]

Stop crying ye baby

FYI I have not posted on this thread before but I will try this one more time. I know it is getting old but you obviously don't get it. As the boys all get older and a majority of them have hit puberty then the advantage of being older is decreased. Please tell me why you would have a 15 or 16 year old play against 14 year olds. Give me a legitimate reason why anyone would do this. Telling me that I need to man up and have my wuss son play older kids is not a reason. Why wouldn't you have your son play kids his own age or play against older boys? Using your logic you should have your son play up so that he is ready for college. Waiting for someone to provide an answer. We all know the answer but it might be fun to see you dance around it - or more than likely just insult me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI I have not posted on this thread before but I will try this one more time. I know it is getting old but you obviously don't get it. As the boys all get older and a majority of them have hit puberty then the advantage of being older is decreased. Please tell me why you would have a 15 or 16 year old play against 14 year olds. Give me a legitimate reason why anyone would do this. Telling me that I need to man up and have my wuss son play older kids is not a reason. Why wouldn't you have your son play kids his own age or play against older boys? Using your logic you should have your son play up so that he is ready for college. Waiting for someone to provide an answer. We all know the answer but it might be fun to see you dance around it - or more than likely just insult me.

I do agree, my son is a true 2020. Last year he had a tough time because he was late to mature so the disparity definitely made him look weak. We got through it and puberty has hit. He is now doing great and the hold backs are not an issue. My advice would be to persevere through the nonsense, if your kid is truly a good player, things will even out this year or next. We can't change the mentality of the sneaky cheating weasels, but through dedication, and talent they will be surpassed, because most of them are not good and their parents are grasping at any way to make their kid look better. We welcome the holdbacks now and enjoy beating them, so sweet

I have never heard one positive thing about an Edge team. Your not tough, your cheap. There is a difference. Toughen up?? No play the game by the rules. Trust me, if you brought any of your team down against a top PA team and the refs said "have at it" the teams would wipe their a$$ with you. Look at the Connectlax instagram up right now touting to 'tag a dpole" more like dHe##. The kid t's off on a kid batting for a gb. He totally blinds sides the kid. Thats a Pu$$ move. Again not tough, your cheap oh and old.

Bitter because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet. [/quote]. The only way the people from Canada know how to play lacrosse, late hits, cheap hits, trash talk. They very much disrespect the game of lacrosse. I agree with the NY poster, keep them out of the US for lacrosse. Maybe we also need a wall on our northern border. Yep, that would work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet.

Stop crying ye baby [/quote]. Crying? Seems like you are the one crying because you are being called out as a bunch of thugs and that is the only way you know how to play lacrosse. It is many areas of the US where you are not welcomed. I would guess the only other person even more unwelcome is the dirtbag Canadian Justin Bieber.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI I have not posted on this thread before but I will try this one more time. I know it is getting old but you obviously don't get it. As the boys all get older and a majority of them have hit puberty then the advantage of being older is decreased. Please tell me why you would have a 15 or 16 year old play against 14 year olds. Give me a legitimate reason why anyone would do this. Telling me that I need to man up and have my wuss son play older kids is not a reason. Why wouldn't you have your son play kids his own age or play against older boys? Using your logic you should have your son play up so that he is ready for college. Waiting for someone to provide an answer. We all know the answer but it might be fun to see you dance around it - or more than likely just insult me.

the biggest farce is the one where you believe the age thing stops givng the edge at 15, it continues through to 19/20+ like a 19 year old against a 22 year. you know when that man strength kicks in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet.

Stop crying ye baby

. Crying? Seems like you are the one crying because you are being called out as a bunch of thugs and that is the only way you know how to play lacrosse. It is many areas of the US where you are not welcomed. I would guess the only other person even more unwelcome is the dirtbag Canadian Justin Bieber. [/quote]

Ok Looney Loser, has a nice ring to it , no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet.

Stop crying ye baby

. Crying? Seems like you are the one crying because you are being called out as a bunch of thugs and that is the only way you know how to play lacrosse. It is many areas of the US where you are not welcomed. I would guess the only other person even more unwelcome is the dirtbag Canadian Justin Bieber. [/quote]

Not crying here, kid is going to a top 20 US school, yours? Don't you see your complaining is just that? Focus on the kids stick skills, would be time better spent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet.

Stop crying ye baby

. Crying? Seems like you are the one crying because you are being called out as a bunch of thugs and that is the only way you know how to play lacrosse. It is many areas of the US where you are not welcomed. I would guess the only other person even more unwelcome is the dirtbag Canadian Justin Bieber.

Ok Looney Loser, has a nice ring to it , no? [/quote]. Keep guessing little Edge boy, I'm from NY and proud of it. Also proud that I detest Edge and everything they stand for and represent, which in the lacrosse world is thugs/cheap-late hits. Do I need to go on, I think you get the picture. Too bad you people can't ask around the US club teams and see how you are viewed. And no, it has nothing to do with winning or losing. You are not liked or respected because of your thug and cheap style of playing. Take some time and do some research, you'll see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet.

Stop crying ye baby

. Crying? Seems like you are the one crying because you are being called out as a bunch of thugs and that is the only way you know how to play lacrosse. It is many areas of the US where you are not welcomed. I would guess the only other person even more unwelcome is the dirtbag Canadian Justin Bieber.

Not crying here, kid is going to a top 20 US school, yours? Don't you see your complaining is just that? Focus on the kids stick skills, would be time better spent [/quote]. Top 20 US school? I call bs on that. Provide the name of the school. Yep, don't think you will. Stick skills? What do you know about that? Seems you guys just focus on dirty late hits, trash talk and just do your best to ruin and destroy the true nature and value of lacrosse. Your (Canadian lacrosse) proceeds you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet.

Stop crying ye baby

. Crying? Seems like you are the one crying because you are being called out as a bunch of thugs and that is the only way you know how to play lacrosse. It is many areas of the US where you are not welcomed. I would guess the only other person even more unwelcome is the dirtbag Canadian Justin Bieber.

Ok Looney Loser, has a nice ring to it , no?

. Keep guessing little Edge boy, I'm from NY and proud of it. Also proud that I detest Edge and everything they stand for and represent, which in the lacrosse world is thugs/cheap-late hits. Do I need to go on, I think you get the picture. Too bad you people can't ask around the US club teams and see how you are viewed. And no, it has nothing to do with winning or losing. You are not liked or respected because of your thug and cheap style of playing. Take some time and do some research, you'll see.[/quote] glad this guy finally passed out. Your beer is much to cheap and causes over consumption

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bitter...because you got embarrassed, nope. Would just like to keep the focus on stick skills, passing, shooting, playmaking etc. not dropped shoulders, verbal threats, late hits and stomped feet.

Stop crying ye baby

. Crying? Seems like you are the one crying because you are being called out as a bunch of thugs and that is the only way you know how to play lacrosse. It is many areas of the US where you are not welcomed. I would guess the only other person even more unwelcome is the dirtbag Canadian Justin Bieber.

Not crying here, kid is going to a top 20 US school, yours? Don't you see your complaining is just that? Focus on the kids stick skills, would be time better spent

. Top 20 US school? I call bs on that. Provide the name of the school. Yep, don't think you will. Stick skills? What do you know about that? Seems you guys just focus on dirty late hits, trash talk and just do your best to ruin and destroy the true nature and value of lacrosse. Your (Canadian lacrosse) proceeds you. [/quote]

Might be true, Edge has 3 boys committed to Hopkins

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ice hockey mentality doesn't fit lacrosse.

Not defending late hits and thug-ish behavior, but you all need to remember that the Edge kids play box and it does have an 'ice hockey mentality'.

I'm here in NY and don't play for Edge but my kid does play box and we have come to understand the differences between field and box. Box is much more contact, constant contact, cross checks away from the ball, hard cross checks, cross checks in the back, etc. (which is why box players wear full rib, arm, upper arm, and shoulder pads) All that is LEGAL in box.

Again, I'm not saying any of those techniques should be carried over into the field game, but I do understand where it originates. Get your kids into a box program and you will understand more.

You don't have to, and shouldn't accept that style of play in field lacrosse, but you will understand it more.

A good field coach will point this out to referees and flags should be dropped.

Again, not defending, just explaining. I have no dog in this fight.

From Recruiting rundown.. Guess the edge team isn't that dirty and will be fun to watch
The next crop of Ontario�s 2020 talent was pretty electric to evaluate, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Anderson turned a lot of heads as an uncommitted, box-influenced shooter who demonstrated a nose for the goal, often utilizing a toe-drag or a face dodge before finishing his shots with a nasty release. He scored a ton of goals throughout the weekend and got himself on a lot of schools� radars. Leading the way up top, Hopkins-bound Raposo was agile and saw the field impeccably, dodging with his head up and exploiting both shorties and longsticks alike. Beyond that, he ran through checks and was generally tough as nails, playing Sunday with fractures in his hand suffered the previous day. A number of other Edge recruits stood out and will be fun to watch going forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From Recruiting rundown.. Guess the edge team isn't that dirty and will be fun to watch
The next crop of Ontarios 2020 talent was pretty electric to evaluate, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Anderson turned a lot of heads as an uncommitted, box-influenced shooter who demonstrated a nose for the goal, often utilizing a toe-drag or a face dodge before finishing his shots with a nasty release. He scored a ton of goals throughout the weekend and got himself on a lot of schools radars. Leading the way up top, Hopkins-bound Raposo was agile and saw the field impeccably, dodging with his head up and exploiting both shorties and longsticks alike. Beyond that, he ran through checks and was generally tough as nails, playing Sunday with fractures in his hand suffered the previous day. A number of other Edge recruits stood out and will be fun to watch going forward.

lets move on from this subject beaten down worse than a dead horse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From Recruiting rundown.. Guess the edge team isn't that dirty and will be fun to watch
The next crop of Ontario�s 2020 talent was pretty electric to evaluate, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Anderson turned a lot of heads as an uncommitted, box-influenced shooter who demonstrated a nose for the goal, often utilizing a toe-drag or a face dodge before finishing his shots with a nasty release. He scored a ton of goals throughout the weekend and got himself on a lot of schools� radars. Leading the way up top, Hopkins-bound Raposo was agile and saw the field impeccably, dodging with his head up and exploiting both shorties and longsticks alike. Beyond that, he ran through checks and was generally tough as nails, playing Sunday with fractures in his hand suffered the previous day. A number of other Edge recruits stood out and will be fun to watch going forward.

Several issues. One, how old are the two mentioned players, 15 almost 16? Second, if this is Ty Xanders Recruit Rundown, he is a total joke and no one, from club coaches to college coaches pay any attention to what this jerk has to say. Grease his pocket, he will write you up, that has been said many times. Lastly, if you do look at his list of 2020 committed recruits, there are a total of 68, only 2 from Edge. What does that tell you, and the 2 from Edge both committed to Hopkins, which has a total of (as of today) 11 verbal commits, more that any other college. They are known to over recruit verbally.
The point is, these are verbal commits and Hopkins over recruits more that anyone else. Univ of Md has 8 and UNC 9, again high verbal commit colleges. How many of these players actually sign a letter of intent is anyone's guess, many times the colleges withdraw their verbal offer. The key word in all of this, at this point, is verbal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From Recruiting rundown.. Guess the edge team isn't that dirty and will be fun to watch
The next crop of Ontarios 2020 talent was pretty electric to evaluate, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Anderson turned a lot of heads as an uncommitted, box-influenced shooter who demonstrated a nose for the goal, often utilizing a toe-drag or a face dodge before finishing his shots with a nasty release. He scored a ton of goals throughout the weekend and got himself on a lot of schools radars. Leading the way up top, Hopkins-bound Raposo was agile and saw the field impeccably, dodging with his head up and exploiting both shorties and longsticks alike. Beyond that, he ran through checks and was generally tough as nails, playing Sunday with fractures in his hand suffered the previous day. A number of other Edge recruits stood out and will be fun to watch going forward.

lets move on from this subject beaten down worse than a dead horse

A rented mule then?

Actually not a dead horse yet. RR which is viewed by thousands and highly respected amongst coaches is very impressed with them. I also have a '19 and they played the same way. Parents bitched and moaned also. Bottom line is they come to play and play they do. So if they play physical . I'm sure when the spoiled LI boys lay a big hit its ok. And I'm from LI. Toughen up guys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually not a dead horse yet. RR which is viewed by thousands and highly respected amongst coaches is very impressed with them. I also have a '19 and they played the same way. Parents bitched and moaned also. Bottom line is they come to play and play they do. So if they play physical . I'm sure when the spoiled LI boys lay a big hit its ok. And I'm from LI. Toughen up guys

way too much on this subject almost like the Crabs are on here deflecting all the angst in the direction of Edge. See everyone in Long Island Saturday and Sunday

3 events at Farmingdale this weekend. Seems there are some conflicts Saturday with NLF individual and NLF teams playing in Fall Classic. Kids need to be at two places at once. Showcase team or travel teams could be short handed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 events at Farmingdale this weekend. Seems there are some conflicts Saturday with NLF individual and NLF teams playing in Fall Classic. Kids need to be at two places at once. Showcase team or travel teams could be short handed.

There is life beyond NLF. This weekend you also have Jake Reed tryout and PhillyFreshman Showcase. Big weekend. Good luck to all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually not a dead horse yet. RR which is viewed by thousands and highly respected amongst coaches is very impressed with them. I also have a '19 and they played the same way. Parents bitched and moaned also. Bottom line is they come to play and play they do. So if they play physical . I'm sure when the spoiled LI boys lay a big hit its ok. And I'm from LI. Toughen up guys

way too much on this subject almost like the Crabs are on here deflecting all the angst in the direction of Edge. See everyone in Long Island Saturday and Sunday

You won't see everyone Sunday. NXT in Philly this weekend also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually not a dead horse yet. RR which is viewed by thousands and highly respected amongst coaches is very impressed with them. I also have a '19 and they played the same way. Parents bitched and moaned also. Bottom line is they come to play and play they do. So if they play physical . I'm sure when the spoiled LI boys lay a big hit its ok. And I'm from LI. Toughen up guys

way too much on this subject almost like the Crabs are on here deflecting all the angst in the direction of Edge. See everyone in Long Island Saturday and Sunday

agreed Philly freshman a big event our team wanted to play there but didn't get in as there are 30 teams registered. Hope everyone has a good weekend wherever you play and lots of looks.
You won't see everyone Sunday. NXT in Philly this weekend also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually not a dead horse yet. RR which is viewed by thousands and highly respected amongst coaches is very impressed with them. I also have a '19 and they played the same way. Parents bitched and moaned also. Bottom line is they come to play and play they do. So if they play physical . I'm sure when the spoiled LI boys lay a big hit its ok. And I'm from LI. Toughen up guys

way too much on this subject almost like the Crabs are on here deflecting all the angst in the direction of Edge. See everyone in Long Island Saturday and Sunday

Hardcor from Canada playing Sunday in Philadelphia cant wait to see the explosion on thes epages Sunday night.
You won't see everyone Sunday. NXT in Philly this weekend also.

Still waiting for your reason as to why anyone would have their son play down. Is it because the boy can't handle playing with kids his own age or is it that he is just not dominant enough against boys his own age? Wait - recruiting right. To try and gain an advantage. That still comes back to not being good enough.

NXT in Philly is a far better tourney than Fall Classic on LI this weekend despite two of the best teams staying local.

Hardcor 2020 from Canada is VERY good. And very physical. Keep your head on a swivel, and don't stop to grab a ground ball. You will be decked from behind. Scoop through and run like [lacrosse] to open space.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hardcor 2020 from Canada is VERY good. And very physical. Keep your head on a swivel, and don't stop to grab a ground ball. You will be decked from behind. Scoop through and run like [lacrosse] to open space.

They have one big middie who is a candidate to foul out every game. Had 4 slashes when I last saw them play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still waiting for your reason as to why anyone would have their son play down. Is it because the boy can't handle playing with kids his own age or is it that he is just not dominant enough against boys his own age? Wait - recruiting right. To try and gain an advantage. That still comes back to not being good enough.

typically kids from Canada who move to the NCAA take a gap year at the end. Some attend Prep schools in the US Trinity Pawling, Culver, IMG and Hill School are popular destinations. Therefore the travel teams (Evolve,Edge or Hardcor align their players up with the year that they would enter NCAA. Therefore a 2001 now is playing 2020 he finishes high school in 2019. then attends prep school. Many go to the Hill Academy as well. They do AP subjects for that year and enter the NCAA in the fall of 2020. Hope this helps why this is done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hardcor 2020 from Canada is VERY good. And very physical. Keep your head on a swivel, and don't stop to grab a ground ball. You will be decked from behind. Scoop through and run like [lacrosse] to open space.

Our Long Island based travel team lost to Hard Cor by two goals in the NXT last summer. They cross check and slash every time they are on defense. Hopefully the refs call them on that. If you play them late in the day like we did, many of their parents/fans will have consumed many adult beverages by game time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still waiting for your reason as to why anyone would have their son play down. Is it because the boy can't handle playing with kids his own age or is it that he is just not dominant enough against boys his own age? Wait - recruiting right. To try and gain an advantage. That still comes back to not being good enough.

typically kids from Canada who move to the NCAA take a gap year at the end. Some attend Prep schools in the US Trinity Pawling, Culver, IMG and Hill School are popular destinations. Therefore the travel teams (Evolve,Edge or Hardcor align their players up with the year that they would enter NCAA. Therefore a 2001 now is playing 2020 he finishes high school in 2019. then attends prep school. Many go to the Hill Academy as well. They do AP subjects for that year and enter the NCAA in the fall of 2020. Hope this helps why this is done.

Thanks for the explanation. Down here we call kids who do that holdbacks. There may be a couple of posts on this site about the topic.

Look at the college rosters that post birth dates. The Canada freshmen are mostly two years older and some one year older. It is rare to find a Freshmen from Canada that is the correct age. The kids. Are held back early on. Also the teams from Canada will take a 2019 team and play in the 2020 division in tournaments when they play in the US. There is no valid explanation for doing that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still waiting for your reason as to why anyone would have their son play down. Is it because the boy can't handle playing with kids his own age or is it that he is just not dominant enough against boys his own age? Wait - recruiting right. To try and gain an advantage. That still comes back to not being good enough.

typically kids from Canada who move to the NCAA take a gap year at the end. Some attend Prep schools in the US Trinity Pawling, Culver, IMG and Hill School are popular destinations. Therefore the travel teams (Evolve,Edge or Hardcor align their players up with the year that they would enter NCAA. Therefore a 2001 now is playing 2020 he finishes high school in 2019. then attends prep school. Many go to the Hill Academy as well. They do AP subjects for that year and enter the NCAA in the fall of 2020. Hope this helps why this is done.

Thanks for the explanation. Down here we call kids who do that holdbacks. There may be a couple of posts on this site about the topic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still waiting for your reason as to why anyone would have their son play down. Is it because the boy can't handle playing with kids his own age or is it that he is just not dominant enough against boys his own age? Wait - recruiting right. To try and gain an advantage. That still comes back to not being good enough.

typically kids from Canada who move to the NCAA take a gap year at the end. Some attend Prep schools in the US Trinity Pawling, Culver, IMG and Hill School are popular destinations. Therefore the travel teams (Evolve,Edge or Hardcor align their players up with the year that they would enter NCAA. Therefore a 2001 now is playing 2020 he finishes high school in 2019. then attends prep school. Many go to the Hill Academy as well. They do AP subjects for that year and enter the NCAA in the fall of 2020. Hope this helps why this is done.

Thanks for the explanation. Down here we call kids who do that holdbacks. There may be a couple of posts on this site about the topic.

So they play younger kids until they graduate HS and then add an extra year before college? What is the purpose? Kids really only do that in the US if they do not have good enough grades to enter the school they were recruited by. In the US a 2020 can turn 15 from 9/1/ 2001- 12/1/2002... seems like your boys are just playing down without actually reclassing ( or holding them back). I get that they end up entering college at the same time as our US 2020's, because they do a 13th year, but really it makes no sense.

Crush staying on LI this weekend to beat up on a bunch of B teams. Really???

Express got lit up today. I assume Express Moran/Wiecorek is their A team.
They lost 7-2, 9-2 and 11-2 at Farmingdale.

All NLF Teams on LI tomorrow which is probably why Edge squeaks by Florida Crush

Who did they lose to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did they lose to?

Express A lost to Edge, Florida Crush and West Coast.
Express A and Express B had a combined record of 1-5.
The top level coaching from Moran, Wiecorek and Leghart is really paying off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All NLF Teams on LI tomorrow which is probably why Edge squeaks by Florida Crush

Not crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did they lose to?

Express A lost to Edge, Florida Crush and West Coast.
Express A and Express B had a combined record of 1-5.
The top level coaching from Moran, Wiecorek and Leghart is really paying off.

That wasn't the Terps. It was a new Express team that currently doesn't have a full roster. Leghart B team missing many players and were paired against Crush. Also had Leghart players playing extra games to round out the new team in their games against Edge and West Coast Start --- two big time teams. All in all, a fairly classic Express sh*t show.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got lit up today. I assume Express Moran/Wiecorek is their A team.
They lost 7-2, 9-2 and 11-2 at Farmingdale.

A bunch of Express kids were playing in the individual showcase.

Excuses are like.........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got lit up today. I assume Express Moran/Wiecorek is their A team.
They lost 7-2, 9-2 and 11-2 at Farmingdale.

Not their A Team. Sorry to bring you back down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did they lose to?

Express A lost to Edge, Florida Crush and West Coast.
Express A and Express B had a combined record of 1-5.
The top level coaching from Moran, Wiecorek and Leghart is really paying off.

That wasn't the Terps. It was a new Express team that currently doesn't have a full roster. Leghart B team missing many players and were paired against Crush. Also had Leghart players playing extra games to round out the new team in their games against Edge and West Coast Start --- two big time teams. All in all, a fairly classic Express sh*t show.

We knew that the predictable "They were missing many kids" excuse was coming. All teams are missing some kids in the fall. Try to justify all that you want, the 2020 Express teams got an old fashioned [lacrosse] kicking all day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got lit up today. I assume Express Moran/Wiecorek is their A team.
They lost 7-2, 9-2 and 11-2 at Farmingdale.

Not their A Team. Sorry to bring you back down.

What team was it then? Loudmouth Leghart coaches their B and C teams.

[s][/s]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did they lose to?

Express A lost to Edge, Florida Crush and West Coast.
Express A and Express B had a combined record of 1-5.
The top level coaching from Moran, Wiecorek and Leghart is really paying off.

That wasn't the Terps. It was a new Express team that currently doesn't have a full roster. Leghart B team missing many players and were paired against Crush. Also had Leghart players playing extra games to round out the new team in their games against Edge and West Coast Start --- two big time teams. All in all, a fairly classic Express sh*t show.

We knew that the predictable "They were missing many kids" excuse was coming. All teams are missing some kids in the fall. Try to justify all that you want, the 2020 Express teams got an old fashioned [lacrosse] kicking all day.

Did they have their fogo?

If I re classed my kid I'd have an all star MVP too. Not everyone will have an All-Star if they reclassed but those that would frown upon it, jealousy maybe but I just don't think it is right, that's not jealousy. Sorry I just hate it. It is all for the optics and opportunity.

A few years in a row I've seen kids shine at ### to look them up and find out they are hold backs, then dig in to find out for sports only.

I dont disagree. My point was simply that it was crazy to put a depleted B team up against Crush. My other point was that this 4th 2020 team is a disaster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually not a dead horse yet. RR which is viewed by thousands and highly respected amongst coaches is very impressed with them. I also have a '19 and they played the same way. Parents bitched and moaned also. Bottom line is they come to play and play they do. So if they play physical . I'm sure when the spoiled LI boys lay a big hit its ok. And I'm from LI. Toughen up guys

way too much on this subject almost like the Crabs are on here deflecting all the angst in the direction of Edge. See everyone in Long Island Saturday and Sunday

Hardcor from Canada playing Sunday in Philadelphia cant wait to see the explosion on thes epages Sunday night.
You won't see everyone Sunday. NXT in Philly this weekend also.

Wait no longer, but the explosion isn't what you had in mind. Hardcor went 1-2 today, only winning against a weaker STEPS team. They lost to Seeetlax Upstate 5-4 and to Looney's 7-2. Much different than last weekend when they played in a weaker tournament against much weaker teams and going 3-0 and outscoring their opponents 43 to 3. Playing against two stronger teams today didn't produce the same results. And please don't use the excuse not all of their players were there today. Not a good idea to anticipate the outcome of club lacrosse tournament with stronger teams involved.

Hardcor isn't a top echelon team like Edge they are more middle of the pack/bottom end

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually not a dead horse yet. RR which is viewed by thousands and highly respected amongst coaches is very impressed with them. I also have a '19 and they played the same way. Parents bitched and moaned also. Bottom line is they come to play and play they do. So if they play physical . I'm sure when the spoiled LI boys lay a big hit its ok. And I'm from LI. Toughen up guys

way too much on this subject almost like the Crabs are on here deflecting all the angst in the direction of Edge. See everyone in Long Island Saturday and Sunday

Hardcor from Canada playing Sunday in Philadelphia cant wait to see the explosion on thes epages Sunday night.
You won't see everyone Sunday. NXT in Philly this weekend also.

Wait no longer, but the explosion isn't what you had in mind. Hardcor went 1-2 today, only winning against a weaker STEPS team. They lost to Seeetlax Upstate 5-4 and to Looney's 7-2. Much different than last weekend when they played in a weaker tournament against much weaker teams and going 3-0 and outscoring their opponents 43 to 3. Playing against two stronger teams today didn't produce the same results. And please don't use the excuse not all of their players were there today. Not a good idea to anticipate the outcome of club lacrosse tournament with stronger teams involved.

FCA lost? Wow didn't see that coming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA lost? Wow didn't see that coming.

Why?

Did 2020 NXT get the good players from Risings Sons when they folded? NXT has been bad for years and competed well today. They obviously have new players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got lit up today. I assume Express Moran/Wiecorek is their A team.
They lost 7-2, 9-2 and 11-2 at Farmingdale.

Not their A Team. Sorry to bring you back down.

As if their A team is dominant. They are a middle of the pack A bracket team.

West Coast Stars not a good team, middle of the pack at best. So much for the West bursting onto the scene. Seattle Stars weak as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Coast Stars not a good team, middle of the pack at best. So much for the West bursting onto the scene. Seattle Stars weak as well.

West Coast lost kids to Legends West

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did they lose to?

Express A lost to Edge, Florida Crush and West Coast.
Express A and Express B had a combined record of 1-5.
The top level coaching from Moran, Wiecorek and Leghart is really paying off.

Why wouldn't the almighty Terps want to play against Crush? Why have your B team play them? Very weak by the A coach in my opinion. I can hear it now please don't put us with them. Put our B team against them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got lit up today. I assume Express Moran/Wiecorek is their A team.
They lost 7-2, 9-2 and 11-2 at Farmingdale.

Not their A Team. Sorry to bring you back down.

As if their A team is dominant. They are a middle of the pack A bracket team.

Yes, they were beat down good last week at big 4

after playing against Edge on Sunday, I didn't really see what everybody is complaining about. They weren't 'dirty' or 'goons' but they played good lacrosse. Mind you, I'm not really sure if they have a good al around 'team' but they really rely on a few individuals: Big Hopkins middie (cannon of a shot), strong lefty middie (often worked with Hopkins middie on a two man game, which they were very good at) and just used some D-middies to rag the ball up the field on the clear. The attack didn't do a ton, mostly just finished the ball on the crease. Their whole offense is through these two middies. (The two guys written up by Ty Xander's weren't here)
I don't know but this is what I thought of the team. They weren't dirty like y'all are saying but a very good lacrosse team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

after playing against Edge on Sunday, I didn't really see what everybody is complaining about. They weren't 'dirty' or 'goons' but they played good lacrosse. Mind you, I'm not really sure if they have a good al around 'team' but they really rely on a few individuals: Big Hopkins middie (cannon of a shot), strong lefty middie (often worked with Hopkins middie on a two man game, which they were very good at) and just used some D-middies to rag the ball up the field on the clear. The attack didn't do a ton, mostly just finished the ball on the crease. Their whole offense is through these two middies. (The two guys written up by Ty Xander's weren't here)
I don't know but this is what I thought of the team. They weren't dirty like y'all are saying but a very good lacrosse team.

I agree with you, my son's team played them last weekend down in DE and they weren't dirty and the parents were super nice on the side lines too. It was a close competitive game going back and forth the whole time ended something like 8-7, so if there was a time for players to be cheap, it would have been in a tight game like that.

They weren't in the big 4 last week they were at Uplax and went 2-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They weren't in the big 4 last week they were at Uplax and went 2-1

If you are talking about Express, they were at big 4 on Saturday I believe they had a 1 goal game with Edge, lost badly to Sweetlax, and Lacxchusettes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

after playing against Edge on Sunday, I didn't really see what everybody is complaining about. They weren't 'dirty' or 'goons' but they played good lacrosse. Mind you, I'm not really sure if they have a good al around 'team' but they really rely on a few individuals: Big Hopkins middie (cannon of a shot), strong lefty middie (often worked with Hopkins middie on a two man game, which they were very good at) and just used some D-middies to rag the ball up the field on the clear. The attack didn't do a ton, mostly just finished the ball on the crease. Their whole offense is through these two middies. (The two guys written up by Ty Xander's weren't here)
I don't know but this is what I thought of the team. They weren't dirty like y'all are saying but a very good lacrosse team.

I agree with you, my son's team played them last weekend down in DE and they weren't dirty and the parents were super nice on the side lines too. It was a close competitive game going back and forth the whole time ended something like 8-7, so if there was a time for players to be cheap, it would have been in a tight game like that.

thanks for the kind words. We appreciated your hospitality and our three weekends in your country literally the critical mass of kids that are good enough to compete at your level is probably 100 boys in our entire province. Sadly lacrosse has had a steep decline since the Toronto Blue Jays started winning again so we have lost players to baseball. The Freedom game in Delaware was a very good game and we did notice a great improvement in your team from a game a year earlier. We can't wait to come back down an play next summer. edge lacrosse

we are talking about a different express team.

there were a lot of coaches braving the cold and wind in Philly. Brown, Duke, OSU, Bucknell, Princeton are the ones I saw at a particular game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

after playing against Edge on Sunday, I didn't really see what everybody is complaining about. They weren't 'dirty' or 'goons' but they played good lacrosse. Mind you, I'm not really sure if they have a good al around 'team' but they really rely on a few individuals: Big Hopkins middie (cannon of a shot), strong lefty middie (often worked with Hopkins middie on a two man game, which they were very good at) and just used some D-middies to rag the ball up the field on the clear. The attack didn't do a ton, mostly just finished the ball on the crease. Their whole offense is through these two middies. (The two guys written up by Ty Xander's weren't here)
I don't know but this is what I thought of the team. They weren't dirty like y'all are saying but a very good lacrosse team.

I agree with you, my son's team played them last weekend down in DE and they weren't dirty and the parents were super nice on the side lines too. It was a close competitive game going back and forth the whole time ended something like 8-7, so if there was a time for players to be cheap, it would have been in a tight game like that.

thanks for the kind words. We appreciated your hospitality and our three weekends in your country literally the critical mass of kids that are good enough to compete at your level is probably 100 boys in our entire province. Sadly lacrosse has had a steep decline since the Toronto Blue Jays started winning again so we have lost players to baseball. The Freedom game in Delaware was a very good game and we did notice a great improvement in your team from a game a year earlier. We can't wait to come back down an play next summer. edge lacrosse

Says the freedom dad

Top 10?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10?

1. 91
2. Looneys
3. FCA
4. Express
5. NXT
6. Crabs
7. Edge
8. NH
9. Legacy
10. Legends West

1. 91
2. Loonets
3. Edge
4. Crabs
5. Express
6. FCA
7. West Coast
8. NH
9. NXT
10. Legacy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10?

1. 91
2. Looneys
3. FCA
4. Express
5. NXT
6. Crabs
7. Edge
8. NH
9. Legacy
10. Legends West

Crabs 2020 should really be in the 2019 top ten

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10?

1. 91
2. Looneys
3. FCA
4. Express
5. NXT
6. Crabs
7. Edge
8. NH
9. Legacy
10. Legends West

Express at 4? Now that's funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10?

1. 91
2. Looneys
3. FCA
4. Express
5. NXT
6. Crabs
7. Edge
8. NH
9. Legacy
10. Legends West

Express at 4? Now that's funny.

NXT???

You are missing Next Level, Hawks, Laxachusetts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are missing Next Level, Hawks, Laxachusetts

Express and NXT do not belong, Neither did well this fall.Tomahalks, Laxachusettes Sweetlax National should be in there behind Crush and Looneys

Next level lost to fl$ last week.

How about this, 91 is tops u till someone beats them again. Which could be coming soon, they almost lost to edge. And then there is a whole pack of teams that can beat anyone on any given day. Why are some people so obsessed with this "top 10" ranking. Seriously, who cares, do you want to be able to say, the team my kid plays on is ranked 5 (or whatever). Let you kids enjoy the game and that should be enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next level lost to fl$ last week.

Actually FL$ should be in the top 10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are missing Next Level, Hawks, Laxachusetts

Express and NXT do not belong, Neither did well this fall.Tomahalks, Laxachusettes Sweetlax National should be in there behind Crush and Looneys

NXT only lost twice both to FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are missing Next Level, Hawks, Laxachusetts

Express and NXT do not belong, Neither did well this fall.Tomahalks, Laxachusettes Sweetlax National should be in there behind Crush and Looneys

NXT only lost twice both to FCA

Nxt also lost to the crabs.

NXT may have lost a couple of games but they are tops when it comes to tweets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are missing Next Level, Hawks, Laxachusetts

Express and NXT do not belong, Neither did well this fall.Tomahalks, Laxachusettes Sweetlax National should be in there behind Crush and Looneys

NXT only lost twice both to FCA

Nxt also lost to the crabs.

Oh I thought that was their 2019

1. 91
2. Looneys
3. FCA
4. Laxachusettes
5. Edge
6. Crabs
7. Sweetlax NY
8. NH Tomahawks
9 - 13. LI Express, NXT, HHH, Leading Edge, Madlax

NXT
9. LI Express
10.

[quote=Anonymous]1. 91
2. Looneys
3. FCA
4. Laxachusettes
5. Edge
6. Crabs
7. Sweetlax NY
8. NH Tomahawks
9 - 13. LI Express, NXT, HHH, Leading Edge, Madlax

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. 91
2. Looneys
3. FCA
4. Laxachusettes
5. Edge
6. Crabs
7. Sweetlax NY
8. NH Tomahawks
9 - 13. LI Express, NXT, HHH, Leading Edge, Madlax

Crabs at #6? No respect from strong island?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]1. 91
2. Looneys
3. FCA
4. Laxachusettes
5. Edge
6. Crabs
7. Sweetlax NY
8. NH Tomahawks
9 - 13. LI Express, NXT, HHH, Leading Edge, Madlax

It should be Sweetlax National at #7, or higher since they beat Laxachusettes a couple weeks ago. They are the top SL team. The NY and FL teams are in the 9-13 range, although SL upstate did beat Edge. Maybe Tomahawks a little higher too. Probably 3-8 could beat each other back and forth. With so many boys commiting, we may see the team dynamics change since many top players will not attend all the tourmaments

HHH blows at 2020. Their are at least r10 teams ahead of them. for the 9=13 slots.

Why is this group so focused on rating high school club teams and revising and arguing about 1-10? It does not matter anymore - in fact it is better for players not to be on those teams as they get seen as they are actually playing in games. All the clubs mentioned above do not focus on all their players - only the top ten on each of those teams gets to see any impactful time on the field. Better to be a starter on a 10-20 team then a bench sitter on any of the 1-10 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is this group so focused on rating high school club teams and revising and arguing about 1-10? It does not matter anymore - in fact it is better for players not to be on those teams as they get seen as they are actually playing in games. All the clubs mentioned above do not focus on all their players - only the top ten on each of those teams gets to see any impactful time on the field. Better to be a starter on a 10-20 team then a bench sitter on any of the 1-10 teams.

Probably true, only part that could be a problem is the Coaches are generally watching the top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is this group so focused on rating high school club teams and revising and arguing about 1-10? It does not matter anymore - in fact it is better for players not to be on those teams as they get seen as they are actually playing in games. All the clubs mentioned above do not focus on all their players - only the top ten on each of those teams gets to see any impactful time on the field. Better to be a starter on a 10-20 team then a bench sitter on any of the 1-10 teams.

Probably true, only part that could be a problem is the Coaches are generally watching the top teams.

Agreed they start there but they have already been looking at those teams for summer and fall now - most who are going to be picked up "early" have been a
but not true for the second tier 10-20 teams. Why would coaches go back and keep looking at the same 10 kids playing over and over because the team sits all but the top kids? Individual Showcases are also where kids are getting looked at now. The point is that some of the dads are so obsessed about arguing about the top 10 teams, while their kids are not getting all they can from the experience because they are sitting the bench. High school is very different from youth and most coaches are not really interested if you are on a top 10 team because they know that the starter on a 10-25 teams are generally more skilled than the bottom 50% of the top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is this group so focused on rating high school club teams and revising and arguing about 1-10? It does not matter anymore - in fact it is better for players not to be on those teams as they get seen as they are actually playing in games. All the clubs mentioned above do not focus on all their players - only the top ten on each of those teams gets to see any impactful time on the field. Better to be a starter on a 10-20 team then a bench sitter on any of the 1-10 teams.

Why do parents focus on Top 10 Lists? ANSWER: because it is the only way over the internet to measure your manhood (or lack thereof). The reality is that the kids on these teams are more alike than they are different. They are closer skill-wise than you wish to believe. And there are many other kids on "lesser" teams who could meaningfully contribute on these "top tier" teams if given the opportunity. So maybe pump the brakes on the whole list thing. It means nothing and you just sound silly and small. By the way, if you put 1% of the effort you expended toiling over your Top 10 List(s) into ranking and retaining a top ACT tutor you would be far better off.

You guys are rating kids? Think about it, adults ranking kids who play Xbox and have curfews and bed ties! You are losers

FCA beats Looneys every time and NH Tomahawks beat them by 5+. Also 3d Colorado 2020 tied Looneys at Terrapin Classic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA beats Looneys every time and NH Tomahawks beat them by 5+. Also 3d Colorado 2020 tied Looneys at Terrapin Classic.

I believe your facts are misguided.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA beats Looneys every time and NH Tomahawks beat them by 5+. Also 3d Colorado 2020 tied Looneys at Terrapin Classic.

I believe your facts are misguided.

Who really cares? How is this helping your son? Agree with poster above - dads stroking and stoking their own egos. Let's talk best tournaments, camps, share recruiting stories and move away from the rankings.

You are right..they shouldn't even keep score at any games. How about we don't rank the high school teams either or have year end playoffs.. I guess you are all for "participation trophies" as well.. the clowns are out in full force on this post..

LOSERS, and you don't even care. Your son's must be so embarrassed by you.

Thankfully, a few months pause now for trips up and down the New Jersey Turnpike...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are right..they shouldn't even keep score at any games. How about we don't rank the high school teams either or have year end playoffs.. I guess you are all for "participation trophies" as well.. the clowns are out in full force on this post..

You are a funny guy, like mythical ranking on the BOTC are anything like a HS state championship?! Have you been drinking? It is almost like the size of your d&%$ is based on this ranking. You need to relax and get a life

Did I hit a nerve Moron? It's ok your meds are a CVS away..

Huh?

Somebody told me when my son was in 4th grade "just wait, it will all change"...It hasn't changed yet... I'll give it one more year...

The lawn chairs are still only watching teams 1 through 8 play. That's why it matters if a player/parent/director is hoping to get their player "looks". next summer or fall those same coaches may be watching a wider range of teams but for now they are not.

I saw the end of the NH Tomahawks team donkey punching the FCA team at Sunday of NXT. Bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled wins. FCA has great coaching, balanced play, IQ but spread them out onto other teams and the same three kids stand out.

[quote=Anonymous]I saw the end of the NH Tomahawks team donkey punching the FCA team at Sunday of NXT. Bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled wins. FCA has great coaching, balanced play, IQ but spread them out onto other teams and the same three kids stand out.

Top 3 FCA kids not present due to football. Rest of the starting group ( 4 commits) told to go home early because the other kids on squad deserved looks. The right thing to do. Well done by FCA coaching staff. So.....if FCA 2020 Blue and Tomahawks play 10 times, FCA Blue wins all 10 with average margin of victory being 5 plus goals. But it makes for great news in NH this time of year. Fall Ball, hilarious.

"The lawn chairs are still only watching teams 1 through 8 play. That's why it matters if a player/parent/director is hoping to get their player "looks". next summer or fall those same coaches may be watching a wider range of teams but for now they are not."

Ok guru... at NXT plenty of coaches all over the fields in the Predators/fl$/Tri State/NEXT LEVEL bracket... keep drinking your own cool aid...

What do we know about Predators 2020 out of NY? Saw them at fl$ and they looked very good. A little smaller than the elite teams I've seen in 2020. But very fast, great skills and high lacrosse IQs. My guess is they have fewer holdbacks, and thus the size difference.

What.....no Igloo??

Ok...Predators dad

FCA, Crabs and Looneys bar - what is the over/under on single and double reclassed kids? The MIAA and their feeder club teams are everything that is wrong with youth lacrosse. What are you gonna do when things go age based and you can't stock your lineup with man-children?

Predators 2020 went 1-2 and finished last in their bracket at the only decent tourney they played this fall (Philly Freshman). They have holdbacks too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do we know about Predators 2020 out of NY? Saw them at fl$ and they looked very good. A little smaller than the elite teams I've seen in 2020. But very fast, great skills and high lacrosse IQs. My guess is they have fewer holdbacks, and thus the size difference.

No way this a Predator's Mommy or Daddy....but if it's not.."Hi Coach !"

[quote=Anonymous]FCA, Crabs and Looneys bar - what is the over/under on single and double reclassed kids? The MIAA and their feeder club teams are everything that is wrong with youth lacrosse. What are you gonna do when things go age based and you can't stock your lineup with man-children?

Continue to win under whatever rules are set.

Predators lost by 1 to Next Level and beat fl$. So not like they got rolled. They're certainly not an elite team. Solid A team. Not AA.

Continue to win under whatever rules are set. [/quote]

Ha! That's a good one....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA, Crabs and Looneys bar - what is the over/under on single and double reclassed kids? The MIAA and their feeder club teams are everything that is wrong with youth lacrosse. What are you gonna do when things go age based and you can't stock your lineup with man-children?

Why do you ask the same damn stupid question on a weekly basis, the over/under blah blah blah. One of the things wrong with youth lacrosse is people like you, who just wants to [lacrosse] because their son isn't an elite player and isn't getting any looks. Oh, and now you have a new word--man-children. Where do you come up with this crap.
This is what will happen if it goes back to age base, the three teams you mentioned will continue to win and beat your teams butt every time. Outside of Crabs having the most holdbacks of any elite team, the other two you mentioned do not have that many. I know, hard for you to understand but those are the facts bunky.

Not true at all. Watched game, all 3 starting attack were there and they were missing only one or 2 of their strong middies. Tomahawks were flat out better.

Predators played in the B Bracket at fl$ where you saw them play. Final 4 was Madlax vs Next Level and fl$ vs 3d CO. 3d CO won finals by a goal over Next Level. No Predators to be seen.

All the Looney's hype is because of the face-off kid(UNC). Without him they loose to most of the teams on the top 10 list. They already lose to FCA every time, but they're still ranked ahead�

These clubs are full of kids who should be playing on teams one or two years older. 16 year old 8th graders doesn't exactly make the playing field level.

The amount of kids playing lacrosses is down, attendance at the NCAA Final Four is down. Why? In part because lacrosse is viewed as a sport of rich privleged kids whose parents will bend to rules to get ahead.

Sportsmanship, honor, integrity are not the strong suit of the holdback crowd. Win at all costs. If Biff can't compete with his 8th grade pals - let's just hold him back a year so he can play with little Trigg.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These clubs are full of kids who should be playing on teams one or two years older. 16 year old 8th graders doesn't exactly make the playing field level.

The amount of kids playing lacrosses is down, attendance at the NCAA Final Four is down. Why? In part because lacrosse is viewed as a sport of rich privleged kids whose parents will bend to rules to get ahead.

Sportsmanship, honor, integrity are not the strong suit of the holdback crowd. Win at all costs. If Biff can't compete with his 8th grade pals - let's just hold him back a year so he can play with little Trigg.

Participation rates are not down. The number HS offering Lacrosse nationwide is at an all time high. With regard to the final four. It's Memorial Day weekend, terrible weekend to hold the tournament. With expanded TV coverage most don't see value in going to the games. TV viewer ship is also at all time high.
I will agree the hold back thing is a black mark on this sport that really needs to be removed. Age requirements are in place for every other legitimate sport. It's just laughable what's going on. As I posted on another thread, MD D1 recruits are way down from just 3 years ago. About 90+ kids from MD going D1. Down from 200 3 years ago. Can you imagine all these dim witted MD parents that held back their kids 1 or 2 years in hopes of a D1 dream? Only to now have a 20 year old freshman at a D3 school. Wow. Not sure if there's any correlation, but one would think their D1 commits would be way up. The facts say otherwise. Seems this hold back thing is not panning out the way folks hoped. Sure they look like superstars in 8th grade, but to be clear, these kids are not success stories. Sad really.

Bingo! There is an aristocracy in lacrosse which needs to change. US Lacrosse (actually their insurance company, Bollinger), where are you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These clubs are full of kids who should be playing on teams one or two years older. 16 year old 8th graders doesn't exactly make the playing field level.

The amount of kids playing lacrosses is down, attendance at the NCAA Final Four is down. Why? In part because lacrosse is viewed as a sport of rich privleged kids whose parents will bend to rules to get ahead.

Sportsmanship, honor, integrity are not the strong suit of the holdback crowd. Win at all costs. If Biff can't compete with his 8th grade pals - let's just hold him back a year so he can play with little Trigg.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the Looney's hype is because of the face-off kid(UNC). Without him they loose to most of the teams on the top 10 list. They already lose to FCA every time, but they're still ranked ahead�

And he is not as dominant as he was a couple years ago, all the top fogos compete well against him now. Maybe cause he's a holdback and others caught up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the Looney's hype is because of the face-off kid(UNC). Without him they loose to most of the teams on the top 10 list. They already lose to FCA every time, but they're still ranked ahead�

And he is not as dominant as he was a couple years ago, all the top fogos compete well against him now. Maybe cause he's a holdback and others caught up?

Priceless.

Check your facts. Looneys plays without the fogo frequently and wins tourneys still.also they have beaten fca the majority of the time the past few years.yes, it is a good rivalry but looneys has had more success

Now that these 2020s (19s and 18s in the case of some) are getting to the point where most of the younger players who have been playing against older reclassed kids are hitting puberty the advantage of re-classed players is diminishing. Any of the elite club teams could beat the other on any given day.

"What no Igloo"

Igloo took a few steps back this year...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the Looney's hype is because of the face-off kid(UNC). Without him they loose to most of the teams on the top 10 list. They already lose to FCA every time, but they're still ranked ahead�

And he is not as dominant as he was a couple years ago, all the top fogos compete well against him now. Maybe cause he's a holdback and others caught up?

Priceless.

not a Looneys parent here. This kid is good. will play varsity for McDonough this year. not just make the team, but play. holdback or not, he will compete and do very well in the MIAA this spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the Looney's hype is because of the face-off kid(UNC). Without him they loose to most of the teams on the top 10 list. They already lose to FCA every time, but they're still ranked ahead�

And he is not as dominant as he was a couple years ago, all the top fogos compete well against him now. Maybe cause he's a holdback and others caught up?

Priceless.

not a Looneys parent here. This kid is good. will play varsity for McDonough this year. not just make the team, but play. holdback or not, he will compete and do very well in the MIAA this spring.

OK Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check your facts. Looneys plays without the fogo frequently and wins tourneys still.also they have beaten fca the majority of the time the past few years.yes, it is a good rivalry but looneys has had more success

I have coached against Looney's in past tournaments in Pa and when their FOGO is not there the have two middies, #17 and #6 who do face offs and while they are not FOGO's, they hold their own against other teams FOGO's. And they still win without their FOGO.

Their FOGO is good and Looneys Bar is good with or without him. Pass the wings...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their FOGO is good and Looneys Bar is good with or without him. Pass the wings...

You seem to be misinformed. It is Looney's Pub, not bar. Need to get your facts straight.
Same as two other establishments that sponsor youth club teams, Green Turtle Sports Bar and Grill --Green Turtle Lax Club and Koopers Tavern--Koopers Lax club.
All are fine establishments and all are nice youth lacrosse clubs.

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"What no Igloo"

Igloo took a few steps back this year...

Igloo lost to NXT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

A bunch of Ivies coming. Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Penn getting ready

Ty Ty didn't play lacrosse and didn't go to Alabama - poseur

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw the end of the NH Tomahawks team donkey punching the FCA team at Sunday of NXT. Bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled wins. FCA has great coaching, balanced play, IQ but spread them out onto other teams and the same three kids stand out.

Wonder if the lawn chairs saw the bigger, faster, stronger NH Tomahawks FOGO push the FCA FOGO into the Tomahawks sideline? Pretty sure they did see it as well as the other unsportsmanlike "plays" he made. Trouble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I saw the end of the NH Tomahawks team donkey punching the FCA team at Sunday of NXT. Bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled wins. FCA has great coaching, balanced play, IQ but spread them out onto other teams and the same three kids stand out.

Wonder if the lawn chairs saw the bigger, faster, stronger NH Tomahawks FOGO push the FCA FOGO into the Tomahawks sideline? Pretty sure they did see it as well as the other unsportsmanlike "plays" he made. Trouble.

I'd say the FCA second teamers put up a strong showing against the NHT. Good for those kids and good for the FCA coaching staff who put the recruiting tourney perspective ahead of any over zealous desire to win the 18th game of a meaningless fall season. Well done.

Whenever fca loses it is an excuse. They were missing 3 kids only. Tomahawks beat theme. Just once admit you can lose to a good team fca. Unbelievable how you make excuses.

FCA - holdback central. Catching up to the Crabs...

Field on age team for gawds sake...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whenever fca loses it is an excuse. They were missing 3 kids only. Tomahawks beat theme. Just once admit you can lose to a good team fca. Unbelievable how you make excuses.

Yep, NHT beat FCA this fall on a day when we were missing kids due to football (for the record it was more than 3) and the rest of our kids played horribly. You deserved to win that game but we can't until the summer. See you on the sidelines!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whenever fca loses it is an excuse. They were missing 3 kids only. Tomahawks beat theme. Just once admit you can lose to a good team fca. Unbelievable how you make excuses.

Yep, NHT beat FCA this fall on a day when we were missing kids due to football (for the record it was more than 3) and the rest of our kids played horribly. You deserved to win that game but we can't until the summer. See you on the sidelines!

In other words FCA was missing most or all of their holdbacks. Do I have that right? I believe I do. I believe that is what you are trying to say, but don't have the courage to say it. FCA is quickly catching up to Crabs as the king/leader in holdbacks. So much for a Christian attitude, it really doesn't belong in your name. The C in FCA would be better at Cheating than Christian.

How was the brine tryout today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whenever fca loses it is an excuse. They were missing 3 kids only. Tomahawks beat theme. Just once admit you can lose to a good team fca. Unbelievable how you make excuses.

Yep, NHT beat FCA this fall on a day when we were missing kids due to football (for the record it was more than 3) and the rest of our kids played horribly. You deserved to win that game but we can't until the summer. See you on the sidelines!

In other words FCA was missing most or all of their holdbacks. Do I have that right? I believe I do. I believe that is what you are trying to say, but don't have the courage to say it. FCA is quickly catching up to Crabs as the king/leader in holdbacks. So much for a Christian attitude, it really doesn't belong in your name. The C in FCA would be better at Cheating than Christian.

Nothing un-Christian about admitting defeat and inviting competition. As Proverbs 27:17 says, "as iron sharpens iron so one person sharpens another." Game on!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whenever fca loses it is an excuse. They were missing 3 kids only. Tomahawks beat theme. Just once admit you can lose to a good team fca. Unbelievable how you make excuses.

Yep, NHT beat FCA this fall on a day when we were missing kids due to football (for the record it was more than 3) and the rest of our kids played horribly. You deserved to win that game but we can't until the summer. See you on the sidelines!

In other words FCA was missing most or all of their holdbacks. Do I have that right? I believe I do. I believe that is what you are trying to say, but don't have the courage to say it. FCA is quickly catching up to Crabs as the king/leader in holdbacks. So much for a Christian attitude, it really doesn't belong in your name. The C in FCA would be better at Cheating than Christian.

Nothing un-Christian about admitting defeat and inviting competition. As Proverbs 27:17 says, "as iron sharpens iron so one person sharpens another." Game on!

Sorry, but the un Christian comes from FCA following Crabs lead and gaming the system and seeking holdbacks for their teams, like their 2020 blue. I realize all teams have a few holdbacks but FCA is now making this part of their business model, just like Crabs.
So you can quote all the proverbs you want, doesn't change the new image of FCA and the disrespect it is now getting. Don't hide behind religion, it's not very becoming.

How do you know they are using hold backs? What burden of proof are you using to prove this allegation?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you know they are using hold backs? What burden of proof are you using to prove this allegation?

Wonder what club the pot stirrers kid belongs to, because ALL the good clubs have hold backs. Even if you have one, your club director is condoning this and you are too by playing there. Please stop your whining. And , no my kid is NOT a holdback, just sick of hearing about this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you know they are using hold backs? What burden of proof are you using to prove this allegation?

Burden of proof??? Stop trying to use legal terms when it is obvious you have absolutely no idea what then mean and how to apply them.
It is a known fact, no proof needed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you know they are using hold backs? What burden of proof are you using to prove this allegation?

Wonder what club the pot stirrers kid belongs to, because ALL the good clubs have hold backs. Even if you have one, your club director is condoning this and you are too by playing there. Please stop your whining. And , no my kid is NOT a holdback, just sick of hearing about this

Sure, you kid is not a holdback. Just love the "I'm doing the right thing dads". Complete joke.

You sir are a liar! You make a baseless statement and expect all to take it as fact. Again, you are nothing more than a disgusting filthy liar! You should be both embarrassed and ashamed of yourself!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whenever fca loses it is an excuse. They were missing 3 kids only. Tomahawks beat theme. Just once admit you can lose to a good team fca. Unbelievable how you make excuses.

Yep, NHT beat FCA this fall on a day when we were missing kids due to football (for the record it was more than 3) and the rest of our kids played horribly. You deserved to win that game but we can't until the summer. See you on the sidelines!

In other words FCA was missing most or all of their holdbacks. Do I have that right? I believe I do. I believe that is what you are trying to say, but don't have the courage to say it. FCA is quickly catching up to Crabs as the king/leader in holdbacks. So much for a Christian attitude, it really doesn't belong in your name. The C in FCA would be better at Cheating than Christian.

Nothing un-Christian about admitting defeat and inviting competition. As Proverbs 27:17 says, "as iron sharpens iron so one person sharpens another." Game on!

Sorry, but the un Christian comes from FCA following Crabs lead and gaming the system and seeking holdbacks for their teams, like their 2020 blue. I realize all teams have a few holdbacks but FCA is now making this part of their business model, just like Crabs.
So you can quote all the proverbs you want, doesn't change the new image of FCA and the disrespect it is now getting. Don't hide behind religion, it's not very becoming.

I am a parent of an FCA player. You may compare FCA and Crabs, but to me, the clubs are very different. You mention a business model. Crabs are "for profit" & FCA is "not for profit". The fees paid for FCA go directly to fund club activities. My son plays for FCA (and has for some time) because of what FCA provides that is different from other clubs. They have a competitive team, playing (in our opinion) the right amount of games. They give players opportunities to grow mentally, physically & spiritually. Weekend retreats, weekly HS bible studies (the "C" in FCA), community service projects, recruiting seminars, and mentoring are all part of the experience. Does the 2020 Blue team have hold backs? yes, a few, but not as many as you think. Do they have players with late summer birthdays that attended pre-first or delayed kindergarten? yes, a few, but many of these boys have played on older teams most of time.

You can compare the two clubs if all of the above happen. I am not sure it does though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whenever fca loses it is an excuse. They were missing 3 kids only. Tomahawks beat theme. Just once admit you can lose to a good team fca. Unbelievable how you make excuses.

Yep, NHT beat FCA this fall on a day when we were missing kids due to football (for the record it was more than 3) and the rest of our kids played horribly. You deserved to win that game but we can't until the summer. See you on the sidelines!

In other words FCA was missing most or all of their holdbacks. Do I have that right? I believe I do. I believe that is what you are trying to say, but don't have the courage to say it. FCA is quickly catching up to Crabs as the king/leader in holdbacks. So much for a Christian attitude, it really doesn't belong in your name. The C in FCA would be better at Cheating than Christian.

Nothing un-Christian about admitting defeat and inviting competition. As Proverbs 27:17 says, "as iron sharpens iron so one person sharpens another." Game on!

Sorry, but the un Christian comes from FCA following Crabs lead and gaming the system and seeking holdbacks for their teams, like their 2020 blue. I realize all teams have a few holdbacks but FCA is now making this part of their business model, just like Crabs.
So you can quote all the proverbs you want, doesn't change the new image of FCA and the disrespect it is now getting. Don't hide behind religion, it's not very becoming.

I am a parent of an FCA player. You may compare FCA and Crabs, but to me, the clubs are very different. You mention a business model. Crabs are "for profit" & FCA is "not for profit". The fees paid for FCA go directly to fund club activities. My son plays for FCA (and has for some time) because of what FCA provides that is different from other clubs. They have a competitive team, playing (in our opinion) the right amount of games. They give players opportunities to grow mentally, physically & spiritually. Weekend retreats, weekly HS bible studies (the "C" in FCA), community service projects, recruiting seminars, and mentoring are all part of the experience. Does the 2020 Blue team have hold backs? yes, a few, but not as many as you think. Do they have players with late summer birthdays that attended pre-first or delayed kindergarten? yes, a few, but many of these boys have played on older teams most of time.

You can compare the two clubs if all of the above happen. I am not sure it does though

Also, at this point, these players are freshman in high school. To continue to talk about hold backs now that all are competing against older players (for those trying to make their varsity squads) a few years older seems odd.

I am a parent of an FCA player. You may compare FCA and Crabs, but to me, the clubs are very different. You mention a business model. Crabs are "for profit" & FCA is "not for profit". The fees paid for FCA go directly to fund club activities. My son plays for FCA (and has for some time) because of what FCA provides that is different from other clubs. They have a competitive team, playing (in our opinion) the right amount of games. They give players opportunities to grow mentally, physically & spiritually. Weekend retreats, weekly HS bible studies (the "C" in FCA), community service projects, recruiting seminars, and mentoring are all part of the experience. Does the 2020 Blue team have hold backs? yes, a few, but not as many as you think. Do they have players with late summer birthdays that attended pre-first or delayed kindergarten? yes, a few, but many of these boys have played on older teams most of time.

You can compare the two clubs if all of the above happen. I am not sure it does though
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Your new lefty Attackman (Ohio State Commit) is a Jan 2001 birthday. That's closer to late summer 2000 than it is to late summer 2001. Right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am a parent of an FCA player. You may compare FCA and Crabs, but to me, the clubs are very different. You mention a business model. Crabs are "for profit" & FCA is "not for profit". The fees paid for FCA go directly to fund club activities. My son plays for FCA (and has for some time) because of what FCA provides that is different from other clubs. They have a competitive team, playing (in our opinion) the right amount of games. They give players opportunities to grow mentally, physically & spiritually. Weekend retreats, weekly HS bible studies (the "C" in FCA), community service projects, recruiting seminars, and mentoring are all part of the experience. Does the 2020 Blue team have hold backs? yes, a few, but not as many as you think. Do they have players with late summer birthdays that attended pre-first or delayed kindergarten? yes, a few, but many of these boys have played on older teams most of time.

You can compare the two clubs if all of the above happen. I am not sure it does though
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Your new lefty Attackman (Ohio State Commit) is a Jan 2001 birthday. That's closer to late summer 2000 than it is to late summer 2001. Right?

see the sentence before the late summer birthday sentence.

I am a parent of an FCA player. You may compare FCA and Crabs, but to me, the clubs are very different. You mention a business model. Crabs are "for profit" & FCA is "not for profit". The fees paid for FCA go directly to fund club activities. My son plays for FCA (and has for some time) because of what FCA provides that is different from other clubs. They have a competitive team, playing (in our opinion) the right amount of games. They give players opportunities to grow mentally, physically & spiritually. Weekend retreats, weekly HS bible studies (the "C" in FCA), community service projects, recruiting seminars, and mentoring are all part of the experience. Does the 2020 Blue team have hold backs? yes, a few, but not as many as you think. Do they have players with late summer birthdays that attended pre-first or delayed kindergarten? yes, a few, but many of these boys have played on older teams most of time.

You can compare the two clubs if all of the above happen. I am not sure it does though

Crabs Lacrosse is also a "not for profit" club. However, their tournaments, which are organized by none other than king crab himself, Ryan McClernan is a "for profit" and is run separate than the teams. He has made a bundle of money over the years on tournaments.
The business model referred to above is how Crabs seeks out holdbacks to bring into their organization/teams and it appears to many that FCA is taking this same path, for several of their teams.
Again, everyone realizes all clubs have a few holdbacks, but when you see a team making attempts to build a team of holdbacks, that takes on a different look and feel.

Not for profit vs for profit does not mean a darn thing. It's irrelevant to the discussion. It's all a business. Dont kid yourself. FCA MD is a feeder program to Calvert Hall. Calvert Hall is in the MIAA which sports programs (with the exception of St. Mary's/Spalding) are full of single and double holdback kids. Stop pretending that FCA is less dirty than Crabs because they only have a few holdbacks. They play the holdback game with the best of them.

Also, at this point, these players are freshman in high school. To continue to talk about hold backs now that all are competing against older players (for those trying to make their varsity squads) a few years older seems odd.
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Well, not really. Those trying to make their varsity squads are playing UP. No one has argued against that. We're talking about playing DOWN in age to have an advantage. It would be like Juniors and Seniors trying to play JV so they could be "the man." That would be a sad reflection on those players and the adults allowing them to do it.

a few hold backs give me a break . These kids drive themselves to the tnmts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You sir are a liar! You make a baseless statement and expect all to take it as fact. Again, you are nothing more than a disgusting filthy liar! You should be both embarrassed and ashamed of yourself!

Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never harm me! Now, that said, I am neither embarrassed or ashamed of myself, not in the least. How can I be when I speak nothing but the truth. Now should we do Mary had a little lamb??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few hold backs give me a break . These kids drive themselves to the tnmts.

you have no idea what you are talking about

What truth?? You present no facts and expect it to be taken as such! Expand upon what you are writing, facts, the truth must contain facts, you provide none, LIAR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You sir are a liar! You make a baseless statement and expect all to take it as fact. Again, you are nothing more than a disgusting filthy liar! You should be both embarrassed and ashamed of yourself!

Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never harm me! Now, that said, I am neither embarrassed or ashamed of myself, not in the least. How can I be when I speak nothing but the truth. Now should we do Mary had a little lamb??

". . . I am neither embarrassed NOR ashamed . . . "

[quote=Anonymous]What truth?? You present no facts and expect it to be taken as such! Expand upon what you are writing, facts, the truth must contain facts, you provide none, LIAR [/quote] It's possible you touched a nerve !! 😂

Nerve, to talk about nerve when one lies ! Have you know shame sir?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You sir are a liar! You make a baseless statement and expect all to take it as fact. Again, you are nothing more than a disgusting filthy liar! You should be both embarrassed and ashamed of yourself!

Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never harm me! Now, that said, I am neither embarrassed or ashamed of myself, not in the least. How can I be when I speak nothing but the truth. Now should we do Mary had a little lamb??

". . . I am neither embarrassed NOR ashamed . . . "

That's what happens with auto fill.

[quote=Anonymous]What truth?? You present no facts and expect it to be taken as such! Expand upon what you are writing, facts, the truth must contain facts, you provide none, LIAR

Before you go calling people a liar, why don't you release the roster of FCA 2020's, with the date of birth for each player. Then we can all see just how many holdbacks FCA has. According to you there are just a few. Now that is a damn down right lie. YOU are the one making these claims of only a few, so prove it. If you can't or won't then we would have to assume you are the LIAR.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few hold backs give me a break . These kids drive themselves to the tnmts.

Ok-that was just stupid and is TOTALLY UNTRUE!
And let's review since we haven't done so this week....lacrosse is a grade based system. If a new kid who repeated a grade two years ago shows up for your tryout, would you tell him that he can't even though he's entering the same grade as the other kids on the field?
And if you're not from The Baltimore area, you probably don't fully understand the pre-first phenomenon that makes many kids older for a current grade. Pre-first decisions are not made to gain an athletic advantage; they're made to gain academic ground and psychological maturity. Every single school and every single club team (even the not-so-competitive ones) in the Baltimore area has some of these kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few hold backs give me a break . These kids drive themselves to the tnmts.

Ok-that was just stupid and is TOTALLY UNTRUE!
And let's review since we haven't done so this week....lacrosse is a grade based system. If a new kid who repeated a grade two years ago shows up for your tryout, would you tell him that he can't even though he's entering the same grade as the other kids on the field?
And if you're not from The Baltimore area, you probably don't fully understand the pre-first phenomenon that makes many kids older for a current grade. Pre-first decisions are not made to gain an athletic advantage; they're made to gain academic ground and psychological maturity. Every single school and every single club team (even the not-so-competitive ones) in the Baltimore area has some of these kids.

Not every school in the Baltimore area-only the private schools who believe they can keep manipulating things to fit with their agendas. some pre firsts are indeed done in the hopes of athletic advantage and then you have the middle school holdbacks which all also claim to be for academic reasons. They make the true on age kids at privates and the public school kids appear to be painted with the same brush which is far from accurate. FCA now has one of the oldest 2020s in the country and several one year older kids.

Would a hold back also be considered if you hold your son back if his b-day is in mid November and the cut off for school is December 1st and you hold him back for 1st grade ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

A bunch of Ivies coming. Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Penn getting ready

committing to an IVY in 9th grade, how do they even know they'll get in? What will the test scores need to be? Isn't it a big risk that your kid might not get a 30+ on the ACT or score super high on the SAT? How do they make it work?

You FCA families are so brainwashed by your preachers that's it's ok to cheat. You guys just Keep justifying that's it's ok for one of you FCA kids born Jan 2000 can play against a kid born in 2002 beat the crap out of the kids 2 years younger and take the D1 commitment while doing it.

There is a BIG Physical difference from 14 to 16yrs of age .
AND YES at 16 you start driving and yes they were driving to the tnmt.

MD folks, can't you all just get along?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD folks, can't you all just get along?

Apparently not. There are clearly some rage-filled folks that dont have their facts straight and resort to beating others up verbally.
There are no FCA 2020's who drive themselves anywhere. My son is on the team and I know this for a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few hold backs give me a break . These kids drive themselves to the tnmts.

Ok-that was just stupid and is TOTALLY UNTRUE!
And let's review since we haven't done so this week....lacrosse is a grade based system. If a new kid who repeated a grade two years ago shows up for your tryout, would you tell him that he can't even though he's entering the same grade as the other kids on the field?
And if you're not from The Baltimore area, you probably don't fully understand the pre-first phenomenon that makes many kids older for a current grade. Pre-first decisions are not made to gain an athletic advantage; they're made to gain academic ground and psychological maturity. Every single school and every single club team (even the not-so-competitive ones) in the Baltimore area has some of these kids.

"And if you're not from The Baltimore area, you probably don't fully understand the pre-first phenomenon that makes many kids older for a current grade." What is unique about the the Baltimore area that makes pre-school kids not ready for school, either academically or socially?? Are you suggesting they somehow are different than kids from other areas in this regard? Are their schools more advanced, IE, more difficult? Unless the answer to the second question is yes (LOL!), then all of the other likely reasons are damning in some way to the kids and/or the parents, and also suggest that while athletics might not be the overt answer, it has become ingrained in the locality as the thing to do "just in case" Johnny shows potential on the lax field if and when he plays . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

A bunch of Ivies coming. Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Penn getting ready

committing to an IVY in 9th grade, how do they even know they'll get in? What will the test scores need to be? Isn't it a big risk that your kid might not get a 30+ on the ACT or score super high on the SAT? How do they make it work?

This will require a lot of "projecting" based on first quarter grades, and scores from standardized tests (SSAT that predicts SAT/ACT score), and then compute an AI range. Very loosey goosey at this point. A kid could commit and be in love with an Ivy only to not make the admissions cut, and is then left scrambling. Ivies make big lists, then start scratching kids off when data becomes available to gauge their AI. Gotta hand it to kids who commit to Ivies early and deliver on the grades and test scores.

Look at commits from previous years and then check the rosters.

Beware Dartmouth and Cornell verbals... 50% chance both gone by then, 100% chance at least one of them gone by then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware Dartmouth and Cornell verbals... 50% chance both gone by then, 100% chance at least one of them gone by then.

Are you referring to the coaches being gone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at commits from previous years and then check the rosters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at commits from previous years and then check the rosters.

Checked the Brown 2016 commits against the roster and all are there, so they all tracked through admissions. Maybe Ty reconciled the list?Would be more interesting knowing what year of high school each made their verbals to gauge how much academic data was available to work with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at commits from previous years and then check the rosters.

For Cornell, looks like 2 did not make it to the roster. Notusre if it was admissions or they did not want to play. Cornell did add 3 or 4 others to the roster not listed on RR.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at commits from previous years and then check the rosters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at commits from previous years and then check the rosters.

Checked the Brown 2016 commits against the roster and all are there, so they all tracked through admissions. Maybe Ty reconciled the list?Would be more interesting knowing what year of high school each made their verbals to gauge how much academic data was available to work with.

How much leeway in the admissions? I mean under normal circumstances a good student has about a 90+ average and about a 27 ACT, etc, not enough for ivys.....Is there a sliding scale or a little bit of give for those at that threshold, normally you'd be looking at much higher GPAs and test scores, but to be competitive don't you have to have some flexibility???

My son attended the UVA prospect day this past Sun. It was well run and as expected Coach Tiffany said that he is not going to give verbals to 2020's. In fact he said that most of his recruiting will be done in the Jr year. Very refreshing to hear his recruiting views. Also got a surprising email from the UVA staff on Mon. In the email they mention thst you purchase video from them of all 4 of your sons games for $20. That is anywhere from 1/10 to 1/15 of the cost of the commercial video companies that usually film prospect days and tourneys. Cheers to UVA for doing the right thing and not being greedy, unlike their ACC breathen UNC and Duke. The latter two hire a commercial video company just to make another buck off of us.

Tiffany is the real deal. Nice to see someone at a high level doing it like it should be done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at commits from previous years and then check the rosters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at commits from previous years and then check the rosters.

Checked the Brown 2016 commits against the roster and all are there, so they all tracked through admissions. Maybe Ty reconciled the list?Would be more interesting knowing what year of high school each made their verbals to gauge how much academic data was available to work with.

How much leeway in the admissions? I mean under normal circumstances a good student has about a 90+ average and about a 27 ACT, etc, not enough for ivys.....Is there a sliding scale or a little bit of give for those at that threshold, normally you'd be looking at much higher GPAs and test scores, but to be competitive don't you have to have some flexibility???

Not sure of the specifics but the Ivies have to meet an Academic Index for each recruiting class. Some sort of avg of test scores and grades for each class. In other words an Ivy can't fill up a class with kids that barely meet their standards. So I would assume that they reserve the admissions assistance to the very best players. If you're not a top recruit than you better have scores and grades that will get you in w/o much help

[quote=Anonymous]My son attended the UVA prospect day this past Sun. It was well run and as expected Coach Tiffany said that he is not going to give verbals to 2020's. In fact he said that most of his recruiting will be done in the Jr year. Very refreshing to hear his recruiting views. Also got a surprising email from the UVA staff on Mon. In the email they mention thst you purchase video from them of all 4 of your sons games for $20. That is anywhere from 1/10 to 1/15 of the cost of the commercial video companies that usually film prospect days and tourneys. Cheers to UVA for doing the right thing and not being greedy, unlike their ACC breathen UNC and Duke. The latter two hire a commercial video company just to make another buck off of us.

And then beat UVA like a drum, both of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My son attended the UVA prospect day this past Sun. It was well run and as expected Coach Tiffany said that he is not going to give verbals to 2020's. In fact he said that most of his recruiting will be done in the Jr year. Very refreshing to hear his recruiting views. Also got a surprising email from the UVA staff on Mon. In the email they mention thst you purchase video from them of all 4 of your sons games for $20. That is anywhere from 1/10 to 1/15 of the cost of the commercial video companies that usually film prospect days and tourneys. Cheers to UVA for doing the right thing and not being greedy, unlike their ACC breathen UNC and Duke. The latter two hire a commercial video company just to make another buck off of us.

And then beat UVA like a drum, both of them.

Dom use to say the same thing! Yet there he was watching 9th graders and offering verbals. Lars will too, you'll see. He just keep them under wraps, like the old days.

Tiffany will turn UVA around in a hurry. UVA has athletes, but has run a slow-it-down, substitute-in-transition style, which then resulted in alley dodges and unassisted shots from middies. Seriously, almost no UVA goals we ever assisted. Just ugly middie dodge-ball.

With Tiffany's up-tempo, one-more style of play, UVA is going to put up lots of points. Goalie is their big question mark. Expect UVA to compete very well with UNC and beat Duke.

How good is the fl$ Premier Showcase? Is it a worthy recruiting event?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

As much as I'm hater on this site regarding the 'abuse' by holdbacks of the grade based system in lacrosse, which I also think is ruining the youth game, this statement about D1 schools is absolutely true. Look at any 40 man roster of the big lacrosse schools our kids are striving for, and maybe only 4 or 5 are from public schools. The rest are prep school kids, who the majority are older and re-classifieds. It is the new norm. Like it, or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

As much as I'm hater on this site regarding the 'abuse' by holdbacks of the grade based system in lacrosse, which I also think is ruining the youth game, this statement about D1 schools is absolutely true. Look at any 40 man roster of the big lacrosse schools our kids are striving for, and maybe only 4 or 5 are from public schools. The rest are prep school kids, who the majority are older and re-classifieds. It is the new norm. Like it, or not.

Several of the early commits attended public schools for 8 years and drank the kool aid that they had to attend private and did not repeat to do so.. Some had never set foot in their new private school prior to committing this past summer. They would not have had to dish out 25k year which some families are struggling to keep up with payments to end up at a school like Penn- Great school but they could have attended anyhow if they concentrated on grades and saved a lot of money and commuting time in the process. Several are also penn residents and were already going to receive in state tuition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

On the current roster or committed roster? Please clarify

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

looked at PSU roster. first one is soph from PA born april 97. Normal age for soph. Not going beyond that for research but your post is a generalization that doesn't mean much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

On the current roster or committed roster? Please clarify

Current. Seems like quite an accomplishment to be recruited on age

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

On the current roster or committed roster? Please clarify

Current. Seems like quite an accomplishment to be recruited on age

both freedom kids are on age that went early

For now. May be encouraged to do a PG year.

Another year, another new disappointment with the results of the Brine tryout. When oh when will I ever learn????

Don't be disappointed teams already picked before you got there..Plenty of stuff ahead of you...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another year, another new disappointment with the results of the Brine tryout. When oh when will I ever learn????

That would be nice to know beforehand. Could have saved some money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That would be nice to know beforehand. Could have saved some money.

Can't expect to have many 2020 kids on a three grade combined team. The 2020 boys that did make it are solid players. Try again next year. Quite a few boys from last years Championship team did not return so not sure how it was picked beforehand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

looked at PSU roster. first one is soph from PA born april 97. Normal age for soph. Not going beyond that for research but your post is a generalization that doesn't mean much.

HS True 2021 � 2003 birth year
HS True 2020 � 2002 birth year
HS True 2019 � 2001 birth year
HS True 2018 � 2000 birth year
HS True 2017 � 1999 birth year
HS True 2016 � 1998 birth year (most recent grads, incoming coming college freshmen)

Now, if you go an look at the Syracuse roster, you will see some freshmen and RF's with '95, '96, '97 birthdates.

1995! Really? Culver Academy and Avon Old Farms? 20-21 Year old freshman! Oh, and there's an IMG Academy grad (born in canada) without bio...who knows when he was born. Someone please tell me RF is not 'redshirt freshman' and I did a wrong stat.

2016-17 Syracuse Freshman Stats:

2-3 '95s
5 '96s
3 '97s
10 '98s
0 '99s or single year holdback or reclass
0 '98s or True Grad for incoming freshman

That's the state of the sport folks! 2-5 yrs offset. The single year holdback or 'reclass' as some like to call it is history.

Get good grades and enjoy life!

Many school systems in the U.S. have a 9/1 cutoff date. So your example oversimplifies "True" graduation year dates.

Statistically, we should see up to 1/3 of players in a graduation year with a date the year earlier than you're putting forth. E.g., a third of players in 2020 would be born in 2001 (born in the 4 months between September 1, 2001-December 31, 2001), and two-thirds in 2002 (born in the 8 months between Jan 1, 2002-August 31, 2002.)

Of course, on teams like the 2020 Crabs, you see more like 80% born in 2001. That's called gaming the system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

looked at PSU roster. first one is soph from PA born april 97. Normal age for soph. Not going beyond that for research but your post is a generalization that doesn't mean much.

HS True 2021 � 2003 birth year
HS True 2020 � 2002 birth year
HS True 2019 � 2001 birth year
HS True 2018 � 2000 birth year
HS True 2017 � 1999 birth year
HS True 2016 � 1998 birth year (most recent grads, incoming coming college freshmen)

Now, if you go an look at the Syracuse roster, you will see some freshmen and RF's with '95, '96, '97 birthdates.

1995! Really? Culver Academy and Avon Old Farms? 20-21 Year old freshman! Oh, and there's an IMG Academy grad (born in canada) without bio...who knows when he was born. Someone please tell me RF is not 'redshirt freshman' and I did a wrong stat.

2016-17 Syracuse Freshman Stats:

2-3 '95s
5 '96s
3 '97s
10 '98s
0 '99s or single year holdback or reclass
0 '98s or True Grad for incoming freshman

That's the state of the sport folks! 2-5 yrs offset. The single year holdback or 'reclass' as some like to call it is history.

Get good grades and enjoy life!

You cannot use a calendar year to indicate on grade - most school systems have cutoff dates anywhere from Sep to Dec. My son has Dec 2002 DOB and is appropriately an on age 2021. Otherwise, I agree that the holdback/reclass trend is rediculous.

Can you imagine sending your kid to Avon, reclassing him to play lacrosse and he winds up with degree from Syracuse. Epic fail!

You guys have an FCA 2020 commit going to UNC born Jan 2000.
that's fair right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have an FCA 2020 commit going to UNC born Jan 2000.
that's fair right.

January 2000? No way. can't be thats like 20-23 months older than a Fall birthday kid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have an FCA 2020 commit going to UNC born Jan 2000.
that's fair right.

So ridiculous if true. My 2018 son was born in May 2000! It's one thing when you have kids who are close to the cutoff who start Kindergarten a year late, but kids being held back with this kind of age difference is shameful unless there is a truly an academic reason.

Congratulations! you figured it out. If you want to play High Level D1 you will graduate college at age 23-24. This is fact look at the rosters. If you are 21 and graduating top D1 you are
1 in a million type player.
its just the way it is.

Exactly - that's a 2018/17U per USL (http://www.uslacrosse.org/players/player-segmentation) Doesn't mean FCA doesn't have a kid with that DOB on thire 2018, but if they enforced the USL age guidelines, he would be a 2018!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations! you figured it out. If you want to play High Level D1 you will graduate college at age 23-24. This is fact look at the rosters. If you are 21 and graduating top D1 you are
1 in a million type player.
its just the way it is.

and even those players will redshirt a year. So no player will ever graduate college at age 21.

If you are referring to the 2020 FCA kid that is committed to UNC and used to play for the Crabs, his birth date is 04/01. He is a one year holdback, not a double holdback!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have an FCA 2020 commit going to UNC born Jan 2000.
that's fair right.

Please tell me that is a mistake. My son is born October 2000 and is a junior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

looked at PSU roster. first one is soph from PA born april 97. Normal age for soph. Not going beyond that for research but your post is a generalization that doesn't mean much.

HS True 2021 � 2003 birth year
HS True 2020 � 2002 birth year
HS True 2019 � 2001 birth year
HS True 2018 � 2000 birth year
HS True 2017 � 1999 birth year
HS True 2016 � 1998 birth year (most recent grads, incoming coming college freshmen)

Now, if you go an look at the Syracuse roster, you will see some freshmen and RF's with '95, '96, '97 birthdates.

1995! Really? Culver Academy and Avon Old Farms? 20-21 Year old freshman! Oh, and there's an IMG Academy grad (born in canada) without bio...who knows when he was born. Someone please tell me RF is not 'redshirt freshman' and I did a wrong stat.

2016-17 Syracuse Freshman Stats:

2-3 '95s
5 '96s
3 '97s
10 '98s
0 '99s or single year holdback or reclass
0 '98s or True Grad for incoming freshman

That's the state of the sport folks! 2-5 yrs offset. The single year holdback or 'reclass' as some like to call it is history.

Get good grades and enjoy life!

You cannot use a calendar year to indicate on grade - most school systems have cutoff dates anywhere from Sep to Dec. My son has Dec 2002 DOB and is appropriately an on age 2021. Otherwise, I agree that the holdback/reclass trend is rediculous.

Sure you could, you're that good play up. You can go year, but you late 4th qtr babies would whine. Challenge your kids

No mistake at all .. Right FCA mom who is in denial that FCA doesn't cheat. The Christian fellowship assess the kids maturity level every year and if they feel they aren't mature enough they hold them back.

Crabs fielded a kid born 3/2000 on their 2020 team. He was 16 and playing against 13 year olds in HOCO. I can only imagine how my on age sons would dominate kids that are 2 years younger. What a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty drops new commit for 20s. D to Penn State. Flood gates opening for Fall Ball? Things drying up?

Another Penn State commit from the Rising Sons

The only Penn State players on the roster not reclassed are from LI, 20 yr old Freshman? 24 years old and still in college? Seems like this is the D1 norm

To put things in perspective: My wife was young for her grade. Graduated a tough nursing program, and was responsible for the lives of 5 premature babies, for a twelve hour shift, at one the nations best Hospitals, at the age of 21!!!! These kids are still running around after a little white ball at age 24-25 and still in college? No wonder this country is a mess!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No mistake at all .. Right FCA mom who is in denial that FCA doesn't cheat. The Christian fellowship assess the kids maturity level every year and if they feel they aren't mature enough they hold them back.

So why don't you tell us what your real issue is with FCA? All of the things that you're saying apply across the board to every single club team in town....like I said before....even the not so competitive teams have hold backs or kids that attended prefirst. And you're even resorting to saying a ton of stuff that isn't even true.

just know that you guys have the worst reputation for cheating amongst all the clubs.

FCA and Crabs are the poster children for going age based. Both organizations should be ashamed of themselves. Of course, the Crabs have no shame...so that is not possible....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys have an FCA 2020 commit going to UNC born Jan 2000.
that's fair right.

So ridiculous if true. My 2018 son was born in May 2000! It's one thing when you have kids who are close to the cutoff who start Kindergarten a year late, but kids being held back with this kind of age difference is shameful unless there is a truly an academic reason.

If academic reason not going to UNC. My 2018 born November 2000!

When are you people going to stop crying about holdbacks? It is what it is, US Lacrosse has given the message that they will not fixing this anytime soon, which is why I stopped renewing my childrens memberships (yes you can still register for tounaments using your old number). ALL the clubs condone and encourage holdbacks. You are fighting a loosing battle. You should put your energy into getting your kid recruited. Plenty of on age kids have college commitments, including my own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are you people going to stop crying about holdbacks? It is what it is, US Lacrosse has given the message that they will not fixing this anytime soon, which is why I stopped renewing my childrens memberships (yes you can still register for tounaments using your old number). ALL the clubs condone and encourage holdbacks. You are fighting a loosing battle. You should put your energy into getting your kid recruited. Plenty of on age kids have college commitments, including my own.

I'm sorry, but until lacrosse goes to an aged based system, like most other sports I'm not going to stop 'crying' about what 8th/9th grade holdbacks are doing to the game. Now, if the only reason the youth game of lacrosse exists is for college recruitment, then yes whatever means possible, get recruited. Having played in HS 40 years ago and to see the current direction, where my own son, who has strong stick skills, but is undersized and quite frankly can't compete with kids 1-2 years older, has decided he'd rather no longer play summer lacrosse.( Just turned 14) So yeah, I'm going to cry about what a grade based system is doing to the game, by encouraging kids (the parents really) to play down for early recruitment versus every other sport where kids play up to be noticed.

To the poster above who said we should stop crying about holdbacks and worry about getting our sons recruited - some thoughts for you:

The issue of reclassification is bigger than your son or my son getting recruited. The uneven playing field that is created in youth lacrosse by not being age based is damaging the integrity of the game. Having 16 year old 8th graders play against pre-pubescent 13 year olds does nothing but help keep this sport in the category of a rich kid's hobby. It needs to be changed and US Lacrosse has provided the guidelines on how they are going to address it. We will see what happens.

It's great that your son has a verbal commitment. I mean that sincerely. It's a real accomplishment in this crazy new world - particularly if he is on age. Please understand that until he signs his letter of intent it is meaningless. Your kid has a slot reserved for him on a team 4 years from now. Injury, social media mistakes, academics, coaching changes all can burn the dream down in a hurry. DONT count your chickens.

I have 4 kids - 1 played D1 lacrosse, another played D3. One has a National Championship ring. The other two are under 10 and play for competitive club teams. Youth lacrosse now is a shadow of itself and it is largely because of early recruiting and reclassification run amok.

Well said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the poster above who said we should stop crying about holdbacks and worry about getting our sons recruited - some thoughts for you:

The issue of reclassification is bigger than your son or my son getting recruited. The uneven playing field that is created in youth lacrosse by not being age based is damaging the integrity of the game. Having 16 year old 8th graders play against pre-pubescent 13 year olds does nothing but help keep this sport in the category of a rich kid's hobby. It needs to be changed and US Lacrosse has provided the guidelines on how they are going to address it. We will see what happens.

It's great that your son has a verbal commitment. I mean that sincerely. It's a real accomplishment in this crazy new world - particularly if he is on age. Please understand that until he signs his letter of intent it is meaningless. Your kid has a slot reserved for him on a team 4 years from now. Injury, social media mistakes, academics, coaching changes all can burn the dream down in a hurry. DONT count your chickens.

I have 4 kids - 1 played D1 lacrosse, another played D3. One has a National Championship ring. The other two are under 10 and play for competitive club teams. Youth lacrosse now is a shadow of itself and it is largely because of early recruiting and reclassification run amok.

I do agree with you, and I "cried " about this for two years before I realized I was wasting my time. My son struggled against the more mature players a bit, but is starting to even out now. Throughout last summer and this fall, the tide began to turn back in his favor, coaches noticed, and he received several offers. I have one in a very good D1 program now, who also committed early, so I know how it works. Verbals are not broken by schools, they are broken by players. Lastly, don't count on US Lacrosse doing anything about this that is meangful. They are useless. It's a shame what's happened, but it is what it is.

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

Early recruiting sucks unless your kid is one of them. Bottom line. I'm around a bunch of friends whose kids are not and trust me their pulling their hair out. Most of them will find a place its just convincing dad, mom and kid to be patient while these 60+ kids are off the board. Its hard, lots of pressure on the 2020 class right now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

Early recruiting sucks unless your kid is one of them. Bottom line. I'm around a bunch of friends whose kids are not and trust me their pulling their hair out. Most of them will find a place its just convincing dad, mom and kid to be patient while these 60+ kids are off the board. Its hard, lots of pressure on the 2020 class right now.

I think you can understand the anxiety involved. Agree with the previous 2 posts. Its natural to want it now, and to be less than cordial to those that have it. Kudos to those 60+. To the negativity crowd, channel it in the proper direction.

Who exactly is the negative crowd? The crowd that is pointing out the painfully obvious damage to youth lacrosse caused by reclassing, early recruiting, etc? Truth hurts.

[quote=Anonymous]Who exactly is the negative crowd? The crowd that is pointing out the painfully obvious damage to youth lacrosse caused by reclassing, early recruiting, etc? Truth hurts.

What's painfully obvious is your transparently negative for a reason. Sad, but very common for this sport at this level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who exactly is the negative crowd? The crowd that is pointing out the painfully obvious damage to youth lacrosse caused by reclassing, early recruiting, etc? Truth hurts.

I'm not sure how many of the early 2020's are reclassed?

You sir are the ring leader of the whiny, frustrated, bitter and negative crowd. I was about to commend the two previous post and you came crawling out from beneath your Troll rock. Let me reiterate. There are 60+ 2020 families who couldn't be happier this Holiday season with the current state of youth Lacrosse. It has served them well. Opportunities abound!! I hope you don't drag your son down with all your negativity. He actually might have a shot at the next level if he stops listening to you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

And there we have the usual attitude of most of the early committed crowd of which many- not all - are holdbacks. This will all catch up and even out over the next 3 years as many of those who peaked early are surpassed and replaced on these lists by kids whose grades are just as good as their stick skills and were just late bloomers or on age players. Plenty of room and plenty of movement will still take place with the best players whether early commits or not, ending up in the best slots. A school is not going to turn down the best players because they verbally committed a 9th grader that peaked in the 8th or 9th grade. No worries the uncommitted kids are actually in the better position - all upside potential.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

And there we have the usual attitude of most of the early committed crowd of which many- not all - are holdbacks. This will all catch up and even out over the next 3 years as many of those who peaked early are surpassed and replaced on these lists by kids whose grades are just as good as their stick skills and were just late bloomers or on age players. Plenty of room and plenty of movement will still take place with the best players whether early commits or not, ending up in the best slots. A school is not going to turn down the best players because they verbally committed a 9th grader that peaked in the 8th or 9th grade. No worries the uncommitted kids are actually in the better position - all upside potential.

That's RICH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

And there we have the usual attitude of most of the early committed crowd of which many- not all - are holdbacks. This will all catch up and even out over the next 3 years as many of those who peaked early are surpassed and replaced on these lists by kids whose grades are just as good as their stick skills and were just late bloomers or on age players. Plenty of room and plenty of movement will still take place with the best players whether early commits or not, ending up in the best slots. A school is not going to turn down the best players because they verbally committed a 9th grader that peaked in the 8th or 9th grade. No worries the uncommitted kids are actually in the better position - all upside potential.

That's RICH

You probably shouldn't be so quick to assume that all early commits are knitwhits and make crummy grades. My son is an early commit and takes grades more seriously than anything. He studies very hard and makes straight A's in honors classes. His lacrosse skills and fitness are a close second and he works extremely hard at both. He absolutely earned his early commitment spot after years of being the youngest, smallest kid on ALL of his youth lax teams. So enough about being forced to compete with kids who may be older or bigger. Kids in that position should take it as an opportunity to push themselves because that's exactly what it is when you're younger and smaller. In fact, a younger, smaller kid who is hungry and willing to work hard has much more of an opportunity to improve than the older, bigger kids.

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.

Does anyone have information on Maverik Showtime I see by the webpage it says soldout. Have invites already been sent out for 2017. Thanks for any help here

Invites went out in September.

Maverick conflicts with Crab Feast for 2020s/19s. As much as I hate to say it - Fat Crab puts on a [lacrosse] of a tournament. More College coaches in one place than any tournament I have ever seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maverick conflicts with Crab Feast for 2020s/19s. As much as I hate to say it - Fat Crab puts on a [lacrosse] of a tournament. More College coaches in one place than any tournament I have ever seen.

Maverick also has a ton of college coaches at all of their events. There will be coaches from the same colleges at both events, maybe not the head coach at both, but all the major colleges will have someone at both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maverick conflicts with Crab Feast for 2020s/19s. As much as I hate to say it - Fat Crab puts on a [lacrosse] of a tournament. More College coaches in one place than any tournament I have ever seen.

that would have been my next question what are kids doing that are supposed to play at Crabfeast. Do they show up at maverik sunday night? And agree with u on Ryan, the NLF event at Boys Latin was our teams best event this Fall by far

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

Actually, I know a few of the families of these commits and I can tell you, they are not happy about it either. They feel like their kid was forced to make a decision earlier than they would have liked. Did they do it, yes because they felt pressure, not because they think it is in the best interest of their son. There is 4 years between now and their freshman year in college and they realize that a lot can happen between now and then. I hope that every family that is "thrilled" now stays that way, but I can tell you, that won't be the case. And, the families that realize just how much pressure is now on their kid, really aren't that thrilled...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

Nobody is happy with "every aspect" of the game right now. The early recruit parents I have talked to have been unhappy with the process. Yes, they are happy their son has a place, but they all still question if it will be the place in the end. Pressuring 14 yr old boys (if on age) to decide their futures is not a good aspect of lacrosse at present.

Despite your attempt to speak for all the early recruits, I would guess you really only speak for yourself. To you I say congratulations for your son's achievement. I hope it works out for him. But the journey is not over. He will always feel the pressure to justify his early commitment. I hope he continues to work hard and gets the grades needed.

Cheers to all this Holiday Season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]For the incredibly happy families of the 60+ 2020 "early commits" the sport of Lacrosse and every aspect of it couldn't be better! Find some other place to spew your negativity. Cheers.

And there we have the usual attitude of most of the early committed crowd of which many- not all - are holdbacks. This will all catch up and even out over the next 3 years as many of those who peaked early are surpassed and replaced on these lists by kids whose grades are just as good as their stick skills and were just late bloomers or on age players. Plenty of room and plenty of movement will still take place with the best players whether early commits or not, ending up in the best slots. A school is not going to turn down the best players because they verbally committed a 9th grader that peaked in the 8th or 9th grade. No worries the uncommitted kids are actually in the better position - all upside potential.

That's RICH

You probably shouldn't be so quick to assume that all early commits are knitwhits and make crummy grades. My son is an early commit and takes grades more seriously than anything. He studies very hard and makes straight A's in honors classes. His lacrosse skills and fitness are a close second and he works extremely hard at both. He absolutely earned his early commitment spot after years of being the youngest, smallest kid on ALL of his youth lax teams. So enough about being forced to compete with kids who may be older or bigger. Kids in that position should take it as an opportunity to push themselves because that's exactly what it is when you're younger and smaller. In fact, a younger, smaller kid who is hungry and willing to work hard has much more of an opportunity to improve than the older, bigger kids.

My son went very early and he too does very well in school actually had ivy interest this Summer and passed on it for the school he wanted. Also on age and not a bigger faster stronger kid just a great player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.

Great post Rudy! What a phony.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.

Great advice, what you say is true. Told my son the same. He is still small, but growing now. His size made him work harder. He has also been on several visits to top 30 schools and has 3 solid offers and will be deciding within the next couple weeks. Good luck to all the boys. Lots of opportunities for those who persevere through the craziness. I do laugh now thinking about all the posts claiming my shorter son would not be rercruited. Clearly people have no idea what they're talking about on here.

He's a phony? You're a tool!

There is an age cut off at MIAA schools, so kids can't play their senior year if they are too old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.

Great advice, what you say is true. Told my son the same. He is still small, but growing now. His size made him work harder. He has also been on several visits to top 30 schools and has 3 solid offers and will be deciding within the next couple weeks. Good luck to all the boys. Lots of opportunities for those who persevere through the craziness. I do laugh now thinking about all the posts claiming my shorter son would not be rercruited. Clearly people have no idea what they're talking about on here.

Bigger skilled kids will get more looks. Size does matter, and you know it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He's a phony? You're a tool!

If you want to believe Rudy, go ahead.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.

Great advice, what you say is true. Told my son the same. He is still small, but growing now. His size made him work harder. He has also been on several visits to top 30 schools and has 3 solid offers and will be deciding within the next couple weeks. Good luck to all the boys. Lots of opportunities for those who persevere through the craziness. I do laugh now thinking about all the posts claiming my shorter son would not be rercruited. Clearly people have no idea what they're talking about on here.

Bigger skilled kids will get more looks. Size does matter, and you know it!

You missed the point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.

Great advice, what you say is true. Told my son the same. He is still small, but growing now. His size made him work harder. He has also been on several visits to top 30 schools and has 3 solid offers and will be deciding within the next couple weeks. Good luck to all the boys. Lots of opportunities for those who persevere through the craziness. I do laugh now thinking about all the posts claiming my shorter son would not be rercruited. Clearly people have no idea what they're talking about on here.

Bigger skilled kids will get more looks. Size does matter, and you know it!

You missed the point.

Who posted about your son here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Folks I can tell you first hand what it feels like to be a late bloomer and being passed over for size at this age. 9th and 10th grade so many boys grew and became men and I still was a boy. Coaches will always tell me if i only had size. They knew i had better skill and had the determination but lack of the puberty thing did hurt. I was 5'5" 125lbs. Going up against the bigger physically mature kids was a major challenge. Most of these boys stop growing at this time. I knew i had to start lifting and come into my own. By my senior year was only 5"7" 155 but was gaining confidence. So all the spots were taking by colleges, and i still wasnt getting looks. When i graduated i lifted hard started filling out and then surpassed many guys. Walked on a div 1 school the next year as a sophmore 5'9" 185 and was killing people. And became a starter and did many great things on the field. Tell your boys do not give up. But unfortunately for this sport the early bloomer gets the worm. I dont like to see kids fail but many late bloomers will be surpassed. My 2019 is just like me and it sucks. But i tell him to keep working hit the gym and good things will come with hard work. Good luck to all hope this helps someone.

Great advice, what you say is true. Told my son the same. He is still small, but growing now. His size made him work harder. He has also been on several visits to top 30 schools and has 3 solid offers and will be deciding within the next couple weeks. Good luck to all the boys. Lots of opportunities for those who persevere through the craziness. I do laugh now thinking about all the posts claiming my shorter son would not be rercruited. Clearly people have no idea what they're talking about on here.

Bigger skilled kids will get more looks. Size does matter, and you know it!

Didn't for mine!! We are thrilled with all the offers. My son will be going to a top school that he would never have been able to get into, and he is short. Wooo Hooo

Bigger kid will no doubt get more looks - it's the whole reason these parents play the holdback game. However, if your kid is on age, a slow grower and can handle playing against the reclass crowd he will be better for it in the end.

There are advantages to being short at the attack position. Easier to dodge, easier to draw penalties, and closer to ground balls.

yes that's right. its also great if you are fat and slow as well as short.

yes that's right. its also great if you are fat and slow as well as short.
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Noone asked you to describe yourself. But thanks for sharing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes that's right. its also great if you are fat and slow as well as short.
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Noone asked you to describe yourself. But thanks for sharing!

hee hee, love when someone nails it!

Great post Rudy? Why such a jerk? I will give you my name and we can meet anywhere and I will show you what this rudy can do. Your a typical [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is an age cut off at MIAA schools, so kids can't play their senior year if they are too old.

But that age is 19 on Sept 1st of their senior year...which puts them at least 1 year older and sometimes 2 years older than their peers who did not hold back. Do not think for a moment that those hold back have not done the calculations themselves. So they can be 19 for their whole senior year of high school!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great post Rudy? Why such a jerk? I will give you my name and we can meet anywhere and I will show you what this rudy can do. Your a typical [lacrosse].

Rudy, Rudy....what's your name, I'll bring my full sized 2020 daughter and she will mess you up!

Anytime baby!

I just saw posts on two 2020 Edge Commits who are/were on 2019 roster? Please explain. Neither looks like a freshman in high school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just saw posts on two 2020 Edge Commits who are/were on 2019 roster? Please explain. Neither looks like a freshman in high school

they both are doing a PG year after they finish High School

Wow what a loser! U are no doubt a guy who never played a sport in your life now living through your kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are advantages to being short at the attack position. Easier to dodge, easier to draw penalties, and closer to ground balls.

A player needs to be
Big
Fast
Smart (LAx IQ)
Smart (Grades)
Strong

or be atleast 4 out of 5 of the above..

Not Big, better be fast and off the charts strong.
Not Fast, better be big strong smart and have skills
Not smart on field better be the next UA model who runs a 4.65, puts up 225 8 times and have killer grades and skills
dont have the grades... better be an athlete who is choosing between football/basketball or lacrosse at a top Div 1 college.

but there is always a place for a player who wants to play.

Thanks Dr. Phil of lacrosse world!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are advantages to being short at the attack position. Easier to dodge, easier to draw penalties, and closer to ground balls.

A player needs to be
Big
Fast
Smart (LAx IQ)
Smart (Grades)
Strong

or be atleast 4 out of 5 of the above..

Not Big, better be fast and off the charts strong.
Not Fast, better be big strong smart and have skills
Not smart on field better be the next UA model who runs a 4.65, puts up 225 8 times and have killer grades and skills
dont have the grades... better be an athlete who is choosing between football/basketball or lacrosse at a top Div 1 college.

but there is always a place for a player who wants to play.

Not a Normal Grown Up, post a list that illustrates that you are obviously a complete tool that their kid is embarrassed to have as a parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are advantages to being short at the attack position. Easier to dodge, easier to draw penalties, and closer to ground balls.

A player needs to be
Big
Fast
Smart (LAx IQ)
Smart (Grades)
Strong

or be atleast 4 out of 5 of the above..

Not Big, better be fast and off the charts strong.
Not Fast, better be big strong smart and have skills
Not smart on field better be the next UA model who runs a 4.65, puts up 225 8 times and have killer grades and skills
dont have the grades... better be an athlete who is choosing between football/basketball or lacrosse at a top Div 1 college.

but there is always a place for a player who wants to play.

Not a Normal Grown Up, post a list that illustrates that you are obviously a complete tool that their kid is embarrassed to have as a parent.

Direct quote from coach to prospects. Who's the toll.

The guy who has the 16 year old freshman. Another conversation

Coach - How old is your son?
Dad1 - Freshman!! 🤑
Coach No, how old is he?
Dad1 - oh, 16😒
Coach - How old are your sons? 😉
Dad2&3 - both respond simultaneously 15, Sophomores 😇
Coach -🤔 😯Keep up the good job, things will change back I not here elsewhere
Dad1 😔
Dad 2&3 - 😏

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are advantages to being short at the attack position. Easier to dodge, easier to draw penalties, and closer to ground balls.

A player needs to be
Big
Fast
Smart (LAx IQ)
Smart (Grades)
Strong

or be atleast 4 out of 5 of the above..

Not Big, better be fast and off the charts strong.
Not Fast, better be big strong smart and have skills
Not smart on field better be the next UA model who runs a 4.65, puts up 225 8 times and have killer grades and skills
dont have the grades... better be an athlete who is choosing between football/basketball or lacrosse at a top Div 1 college.

but there is always a place for a player who wants to play.

Not a Normal Grown Up, post a list that illustrates that you are obviously a complete tool that their kid is embarrassed to have as a parent.

Direct quote from coach to prospects. Who's the toll.

The guy who has the 16 year old freshman. Another conversation

Coach - How old is your son?
Dad1 - Freshman!! 🤑
Coach No, how old is he?
Dad1 - oh, 16😒
Coach - How old are your sons? 😉
Dad2&3 - both respond simultaneously 15, Sophomores 😇
Coach -🤔 😯Keep up the good job, things will change back I not here elsewhere
Dad1 😔
Dad 2&3 - 😏

What is the above mess??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow what a loser! U are no doubt a guy who never played a sport in your life now living through your kids.

who are u talking to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow what a loser! U are no doubt a guy who never played a sport in your life now living through your kids.

who are u talking to?

He is probably talking about himself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are advantages to being short at the attack position. Easier to dodge, easier to draw penalties, and closer to ground balls.

A player needs to be
Big
Fast
Smart (LAx IQ)
Smart (Grades)
Strong

or be atleast 4 out of 5 of the above..

Not Big, better be fast and off the charts strong.
Not Fast, better be big strong smart and have skills
Not smart on field better be the next UA model who runs a 4.65, puts up 225 8 times and have killer grades and skills
dont have the grades... better be an athlete who is choosing between football/basketball or lacrosse at a top Div 1 college.

but there is always a place for a player who wants to play.

Not a Normal Grown Up, post a list that illustrates that you are obviously a complete tool that their kid is embarrassed to have as a parent.

Direct quote from coach to prospects. Who's the toll.

The guy who has the 16 year old freshman. Another conversation

Coach - How old is your son?
Dad1 - Freshman!! 🤑
Coach No, how old is he?
Dad1 - oh, 16😒
Coach - How old are your sons? 😉
Dad2&3 - both respond simultaneously 15, Sophomores 😇
Coach -🤔 😯Keep up the good job, things will change back I not here elsewhere
Dad1 😔
Dad 2&3 - 😏

What is the above mess??

The tool must have been thinking about paying a toll.

Can I get that 90 seconds of my life back spent reading the above drivel?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I get that 90 seconds of my life back spent reading the above drivel?

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I get that 90 seconds of my life back spent reading the above drivel?

No

Sad day. The man who invented the red solo cup passed away.
He had no idea how influential he was to lacrosse sidelines.

It' is also a sad day when you see parents at youth lacrosse tournaments walking around with their red Solo cups acting like their kids play for Delta House. If you can't watch a youth lacrosse game without boozing it up stay at home. No wonder lacrosse has a black eye.

So, since things are quiet on the commit front, what's the current 2020 count by team? Ty isn't up to date so curious. 89+2? Sweetlax? Looney's? Crabs? Express? Sons? It's winter. . .so. ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, since things are quiet on the commit front, what's the current 2020 count by team? Ty isn't up to date so curious. 89+2? Sweetlax? Looney's? Crabs? Express? Sons? It's winter. . .so. ..

Crush, Sweetlax, Looneys, FCA have the most. They all probably also have a bunch more that aren't listed but committed to schools like Duke and certain Ivies that don't allow commitments to be announced yet

Why would certain Ivies not allow announcements when others like Brown and Princeton do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would certain Ivies not allow announcements when others like Brown and Princeton do?

It's their policy. Some insist the kid has a full year of freshman grades. Some are waiting for 1st semester. There are currently kids verbally committed to Duke, Yale, ND,Penn and Harvard who are not alowed to go public yet.

Crush has 13 most announced some waiting to go public

I call BS on the verbals not allowed to go public

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I call BS on the verbals not allowed to go public

Why? It's been this way for years. If you were knowledgeable in how Ivies work you would not make that statement. Princeton and Brown have allowd the early announcement but other schools have their own rules. In the past most Ivies didn't allow the announcement till Jr or even Sr year, so they are relaxing the rules a bit, but some may make the kids wait at least another year. You will see a few more announced after the 1st semester grades are in, and a bunch at the end of the year. Know of at least 5.

Name the club teams and positions

At this point, it would out the commits. The decision to announce isn't easy, trust me. Almost wish we were told not to. . .wouldn't have to deal with the obnoxious uncommitted 18 & 19 parents who feel comfortable questioning our son's very rational decision.

BS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At this point, it would out the commits. The decision to announce isn't easy, trust me. Almost wish we were told not to. . .wouldn't have to deal with the obnoxious uncommitted 18 & 19 parents who feel comfortable questioning our son's very rational decision.

Not exactly a "glass is half full" kind of person are you? You sound like the guy who won the lottery and then complains he has to pay taxes on the jackpot......If your kid is committing as a 2020 you have nothing to complain about. Oh, and nobody is making you or your kid do anything. If you don't want to announce it to the world then don't. I doubt a college coach would care. It is the club coaches salivating at blasting the news out to the world.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Name the club teams and positions

Can't do that, my son is one of them. We can't announce until the end of the school year. And that's fine, must respect the coaches wishes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, since things are quiet on the commit front, what's the current 2020 count by team? Ty isn't up to date so curious. 89+2? Sweetlax? Looney's? Crabs? Express? Sons? It's winter. . .so. ..

TD get a life

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At this point, it would out the commits. The decision to announce isn't easy, trust me. Almost wish we were told not to. . .wouldn't have to deal with the obnoxious uncommitted 18 & 19 parents who feel comfortable questioning our son's very rational decision.

Not exactly a "glass is half full" kind of person are you? You sound like the guy who won the lottery and then complains he has to pay taxes on the jackpot......If your kid is committing as a 2020 you have nothing to complain about. Oh, and nobody is making you or your kid do anything. If you don't want to announce it to the world then don't. I doubt a college coach would care. It is the club coaches salivating at blasting the news out to the world.

And, it is the crazy parents allowing it to happen. If you see really concerned about your kid you wouldn't announce it. True fact

In this day and age I find it virtually unbelievable that there is a huge backlog of verbal 2020 commits waiting to be announced. Information spreads like wildfire. To say you know 5 kids that have verbal commitments from Ivy League schools - but - won't say the clubs, positions, etc. is pure BS. Most of the Ivys don't even have their 2019s lined up. If past is prologue we will see a bunch of Ivy Leaue commits this time next year and THEN the kids will actually have to get through the admissions process which is no small feat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In this day and age I find it virtually unbelievable that there is a huge backlog of verbal 2020 commits waiting to be announced. Information spreads like wildfire. To say you know 5 kids that have verbal commitments from Ivy League schools - but - won't say the clubs, positions, etc. is pure BS. Most of the Ivys don't even have their 2019s lined up. If past is prologue we will see a bunch of Ivy Leaue commits this time next year and THEN the kids will actually have to get through the admissions process which is no small feat.

Why so negative? Why would I lie? Every college and club coach knows who these kids are, since they had to cease communications with other interested schools. You are correct about meeting academic requirements. Those are laid out prior to the commitment, the GPA and test scores required for admission. Good luck to all the boys still looking for a good fit school, will be a big year for this age group!

You and baby Ty Ty have all the inside scoop. Bunch of BS. Name the clubs, schools, positions, etc. or it's BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You and baby Ty Ty have all the inside scoop. Bunch of BS. Name the clubs, schools, positions, etc. or it's BS.

Haha, sorry your b team son will never play in college and you have no knowledge of the recruiting process, sad for you, jackass

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has 13 most announced some waiting to go public

BS 13 my [lacrosse]

King of BS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

King of BS

Just the King

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has 13 most announced some waiting to go public

BS 13 my [lacrosse]

Crush does not have 13, don't believe it. Most of those kids will eventually commit and end up at good schools as many others will from other top long Island teams and programs.

I know 22 kids that have super secret verbals from all the top schools - but they can't talk about it until they sign their NLI.

Crush has 7 Commits

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has 7 Commits

Ty Zander's list is not up to date. played at Hobart on Dec 17th against Orange Crush Orange 2018 (Syracuse based) and they had 5 listed players committed to UPenn 1 Hobart 1 and Syracuse 3 and not one of those players are listed in recruiting rundown. He only lists kids who reach out to him. This suggests that 2018 is probably over and done with and 2019 is mostly finished to the schools now more focused on 2020 because of proposed rule changes that could come into effect next Autumn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has 7 Commits

Ty Zander's list is not up to date. played at Hobart on Dec 17th against Orange Crush Orange 2018 (Syracuse based) and they had 5 listed players committed to UPenn 1 Hobart 1 and Syracuse 3 and not one of those players are listed in recruiting rundown. He only lists kids who reach out to him. This suggests that 2018 is probably over and done with and 2019 is mostly finished to the schools now more focused on 2020 because of proposed rule changes that could come into effect next Autumn

Are those Crush kids that are Committed to Cuse and Penn?

There is no way 2019s are done. There are a huge group of D1 coaches that won't even consider making an offer to a 9th grader who hasn't played a single high school game. 5 91 players to Penn? Hard to believe...

2019's are current sophomores. . . .

Above poster said they are done with 19s

The 2018's are not done, how could the 2019's be done? There are 71 D1 programs with 10 - 15 recruits per class and a average roster size of 40 - 45 kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know 22 kids that have super secret verbals from all the top schools - but they can't talk about it until they sign their NLI.

Who are you kidding?

I think he's kidding everyone!

When are proposed recruit rule changes being voted on? what are the changes that will impact 2020's ? Are proposed changes expected to be accepted?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think he's kidding everyone!

These are not secret verbals, the kids are allowed to share the commitment with friends, family and coaches. This is how all commitments should be handled, it's really not your, or anyone else business!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think he's kidding everyone!

These are not secret verbals, the kids are allowed to share the commitment with friends, family and coaches. This is how all commitments should be handled, it's really not your, or anyone else business!

Well Dean Wormer, is this the same as double secret probation? And specking about not being anyone's business, it is also none of your business. Troll

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are proposed recruit rule changes being voted on? what are the changes that will impact 2020's ? Are proposed changes expected to be accepted?

Won't go through, if they did, would not impact those already committed, including unannounced Ivy verbals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are proposed recruit rule changes being voted on? what are the changes that will impact 2020's ? Are proposed changes expected to be accepted?

Doesn't matter. NCAA will never implement. They want to police less

It's going through. 100%. April 2017 goes into effect. WI'll not effect any commits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's going through. 100%. April 2017 goes into effect. WI'll not effect any commits.

And who is your source for this information?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are proposed recruit rule changes being voted on? what are the changes that will impact 2020's ? Are proposed changes expected to be accepted?

Doesn't matter. NCAA will never implement. They want to police less

Agree, the NCAA doesn't want another rule/regulation that they will have to monitor. Plus, lacrosse is not a top sport for the NCAA, not enough revenue as football and basketball, that is their main focus. NCAA does as little as possible for/with lacrosse, other than drain any income they can from the sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's going through. 100%. April 2017 goes into effect. WI'll not effect any commits.

The actual date will be 8/31/17 (if it passes the coaches will still be able to contact kids before their Junior year up to 8/31) after that date the coaches will not be able to have any contact with prospective student athletes until their Junior year. However, it will remain to be seen if it passes. I do believe the vast majority of the coaches do want it to pass. The only way it will affect the committed kids is that they will not have any contact with the coaches at the school they have "committed" to until their Junior year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's going through. 100%. April 2017 goes into effect. WI'll not effect any commits.

The actual date will be 8/31/17 (if it passes the coaches will still be able to contact kids before their Junior year up to 8/31) after that date the coaches will not be able to have any contact with prospective student athletes until their Junior year. However, it will remain to be seen if it passes. I do believe the vast majority of the coaches do want it to pass. The only way it will affect the committed kids is that they will not have any contact with the coaches at the school they have "committed" to until their Junior year.

The NCAA should just make all sports the same - no contact until the Jr year for anyone, any sport, male of female. School risks will go down, and correspondingly no school will be able to snag the phenom Middle School athlete, but this is actually in the best interests of both parties. Kids can actually be kids again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's going through. 100%. April 2017 goes into effect. WI'll not effect any commits.

The actual date will be 8/31/17 (if it passes the coaches will still be able to contact kids before their Junior year up to 8/31) after that date the coaches will not be able to have any contact with prospective student athletes until their Junior year. However, it will remain to be seen if it passes. I do believe the vast majority of the coaches do want it to pass. The only way it will affect the committed kids is that they will not have any contact with the coaches at the school they have "committed" to until their Junior year.

The NCAA should just make all sports the same - no contact until the Jr year for anyone, any sport, male of female. School risks will go down, and correspondingly no school will be able to snag the phenom Middle School athlete, but this is actually in the best interests of both parties. Kids can actually be kids again!

Agree that a change needs to be made. That said, if this sets off a mad dash with 20s and 21s, it's going to end up causing more problems than solving them for those two classes. Coaches are going to be committing those age groups right up to the end 8/31 and even poorer rush decisions will be made. They should probably start with the 2022 class: no contact until junior year and somehow "grandfather" the 20/21 class to the currently broken system. Not sure how you'd "regulate" it though. . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's going through. 100%. April 2017 goes into effect. WI'll not effect any commits.

The actual date will be 8/31/17 (if it passes the coaches will still be able to contact kids before their Junior year up to 8/31) after that date the coaches will not be able to have any contact with prospective student athletes until their Junior year. However, it will remain to be seen if it passes. I do believe the vast majority of the coaches do want it to pass. The only way it will affect the committed kids is that they will not have any contact with the coaches at the school they have "committed" to until their Junior year.

The NCAA should just make all sports the same - no contact until the Jr year for anyone, any sport, male of female. School risks will go down, and correspondingly no school will be able to snag the phenom Middle School athlete, but this is actually in the best interests of both parties. Kids can actually be kids again!

Agree that a change needs to be made. That said, if this sets off a mad dash with 20s and 21s, it's going to end up causing more problems than solving them for those two classes. Coaches are going to be committing those age groups right up to the end 8/31 and even poorer rush decisions will be made. They should probably start with the 2022 class: no contact until junior year and somehow "grandfather" the 20/21 class to the currently broken system. Not sure how you'd "regulate" it though. . .

Because then it won't impact you right? Selfish

Never will happen, you think the coaches want this? They don't. They talk out of bothe sides of their mouths. My son's college coach says this will not pass.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's going through. 100%. April 2017 goes into effect. WI'll not effect any commits.

The actual date will be 8/31/17 (if it passes the coaches will still be able to contact kids before their Junior year up to 8/31) after that date the coaches will not be able to have any contact with prospective student athletes until their Junior year. However, it will remain to be seen if it passes. I do believe the vast majority of the coaches do want it to pass. The only way it will affect the committed kids is that they will not have any contact with the coaches at the school they have "committed" to until their Junior year.

The NCAA should just make all sports the same - no contact until the Jr year for anyone, any sport, male of female. School risks will go down, and correspondingly no school will be able to snag the phenom Middle School athlete, but this is actually in the best interests of both parties. Kids can actually be kids again!

Agree that a change needs to be made. That said, if this sets off a mad dash with 20s and 21s, it's going to end up causing more problems than solving them for those two classes. Coaches are going to be committing those age groups right up to the end 8/31 and even poorer rush decisions will be made. They should probably start with the 2022 class: no contact until junior year and somehow "grandfather" the 20/21 class to the currently broken system. Not sure how you'd "regulate" it though. . .

Since this proposal cleared the prior committee it is very likely to be voted and accepted in April with the August cutoff (I thought would be Aug 1). Once approved the rule becomes another compliance item for schools to monitor and their compliance people to watch. every school has an NCAA compliance person and many have several on staff to keep teams and coaches out of NCAA trouble.

This will indeed cause a land grab over the summer if not start earlier. The funny thing will be to watch as club owners try to figure out what to do when they are not the gatekeeper anymore. Also, money-grab tournaments might be affected. I guess college coaches would still attend recruiting tournaments and bide their time until a player's junior year.

I do wonder what would happen if a kid sends an email to a coach prior to their junior year? Kids are not under any NCAA control.

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

Won't go through. Besides, several 2021s are already very close to commitment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

They should implement immediately, cancel all verbal commitments and let kids play high school. The kids who earned a commitment before will earn again and those who were left out because of a crappy system will have a chance to grow, learn and be noticed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

They should implement immediately, cancel all verbal commitments and let kids play high school. The kids who earned a commitment before will earn again and those who were left out because of a crappy system will have a chance to grow, learn and be noticed.

Says the Dads whose kid has no looks. You probably wanted a recount for the election too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

They should implement immediately, cancel all verbal commitments and let kids play high school. The kids who earned a commitment before will earn again and those who were left out because of a crappy system will have a chance to grow, learn and be noticed.

Says the Dads whose kid has no looks. You probably wanted a recount for the election too.

Scared your holdback will not keep his commitment as kids play high school. Seems the idea of immediate implementation worked to get the weakest parents to comment. So easy to bait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

They should implement immediately, cancel all verbal commitments and let kids play high school. The kids who earned a commitment before will earn again and those who were left out because of a crappy system will have a chance to grow, learn and be noticed.

Says the Dads whose kid has no looks. You probably wanted a recount for the election too.

Is it really a wonder with responses like this that the majority of those committed get no respect from their peers and their parents are considered as a group the worst sports parents ever? A bit of humility goes a long way and most would agree that committing at the age of 14 or 15 (or even 16 given the large number of committed holdbacks) is not good for the sport and if really challenged not good for the child. Try to stop being a jerk dad - it is your son and not you who is playing the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

They should implement immediately, cancel all verbal commitments and let kids play high school. The kids who earned a commitment before will earn again and those who were left out because of a crappy system will have a chance to grow, learn and be noticed.

Says the Dads whose kid has no looks. You probably wanted a recount for the election too.

Scared your holdback will not keep his commitment as kids play high school. Seems the idea of immediate implementation worked to get the weakest parents to comment. So easy to bait.

Nope, there is a reason kids get committed. It's because they stand out. Sorry yours didn't. Making silly recommendations will not help your son. Get back to practice!

Please stop thinking your kid is close to commitment , you just want to write that so you think it is true ..... JOKE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

They should implement immediately, cancel all verbal commitments and let kids play high school. The kids who earned a commitment before will earn again and those who were left out because of a crappy system will have a chance to grow, learn and be noticed.

Says the Dads whose kid has no looks. You probably wanted a recount for the election too.

Scared your holdback will not keep his commitment as kids play high school. Seems the idea of immediate implementation worked to get the weakest parents to comment. So easy to bait.

Nope, there is a reason kids get committed. It's because they stand out. Sorry yours didn't. Making silly recommendations will not help your son. Get back to practice!

Because they stand out in 8th and 9th grade? Boy, reality is going to strike some parents (not all) hard in the face in 3-4 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

They should implement immediately, cancel all verbal commitments and let kids play high school. The kids who earned a commitment before will earn again and those who were left out because of a crappy system will have a chance to grow, learn and be noticed.

Says the Dads whose kid has no looks. You probably wanted a recount for the election too.

Scared your holdback will not keep his commitment as kids play high school. Seems the idea of immediate implementation worked to get the weakest parents to comment. So easy to bait.

Nope, there is a reason kids get committed. It's because they stand out. Sorry yours didn't. Making silly recommendations will not help your son. Get back to practice!

So, as suggested, your kid will not stand out if the rule is implemented immediately and he has to actually play a high school game. Let me guess, you never played lacrosse. You love it because your kid has always been good. He has always been good, because he has always been bigger. Easy to look good against kids not as developed. Now a rule could allow kids to develop academically and physically, but you oppose because you want the only advantage your kid had. The bull dodge and overrunning kids down the alley won't work when kids are developed. Weak!

In my experience, by 4th-5th grade you can tell which kids are most athletic regardless of the sport they are playing. We all know who those kids are. They are faster and more coordinated, they can catch and throw and kick better and the biggest differentiator is their competitive fire! They are alsways around the ball.. My point is that those same kids who stand out in 7th/8th grade (holdback or not) usually do not fall back in the middle of the pack by their junior yr. So many of you say "just wait until the other boys hit their growth spirt"... On a very rare occasion have I seen a late bloomer come out of nowhere and become the "star athlete".

I think there needs clarification on what a "late bloomer" is. It is NOT a kid who was not a strong athlete all along and then turns into one his Jr year out of nowhere. A late bloomer is a kid that hits puberty late. So how it applies here is a kid that has been a star athlete from little up through middle school. Then say in 8th grade other kids have hit puberty and are now 5'8, 135 lbs. But this kid who has been a star is still 5'2 , 100 lbs. now it becomes challenging for this kid with the size difference until his puberty growth hits. This kid's growth spurt then kicks in around 10th grade and he is 5'11, 170 lbs as a Jr. He reemerges as a star player once the puberty growth stages even out. That is a late bloomer example.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my experience, by 4th-5th grade you can tell which kids are most athletic regardless of the sport they are playing. We all know who those kids are. They are faster and more coordinated, they can catch and throw and kick better and the biggest differentiator is their competitive fire! They are alsways around the ball.. My point is that those same kids who stand out in 7th/8th grade (holdback or not) usually do not fall back in the middle of the pack by their junior yr. So many of you say "just wait until the other boys hit their growth spirt"... On a very rare occasion have I seen a late bloomer come out of nowhere and become the "star athlete".

Wow, you are a colossal idiot. You sound like my son's PAL coaches. One nut job told me my son didn't have the right muscle fibers at 11 years old. (his son never played in HS or college) Like you, they couldn't have been more wrong. I have one in college playing and another committed to a top 20 D1 program. Neither were the best, fastest, most athletic in 4th or 5th grade. In fact, one was heavy, and one ran on his heels. Fast forward a few years. One committed as a jr, the other a soph. Lacrosse is unique sport, where dynamic hard working Lacrosse players, surpass superior athletes all the time. It's a rare sport where you can be big, fast, small, tall, short, thick, skinny and still compete at the highest levels. Is being a freak athlete a benefit? Sure. A prerequisite? No. BTW the kid who ran on his heels, became the fastest kid on his HS team. The heavy one, breaks poles ankles anywhere on the field. Don't think my two where outliers, just hard workers at a sport they loved.
Do everyone a favor and take your insane border line creepy assessment of 4th and 5th grade babies somewhere else. Who watches kids that closely? Creeper!!!!

Let me guess.. you are 60lbs over weight (your wife even fatter) and never played or coached and are living vicariously through your kids. I knew it.. You sir are the loser. . I Have 4 kids and have coached 3 different sports (lacrosse not one them) at the the youth rec level.. just to help out and give back. Most of the kids who excel at an early age continue on that same path. Yes on the rare occasion a kid puts down the soda and doritos that bad parents like you gave them their whole life and and they shed the weight and start to come into their own. No go back to bragging about your "ankle braking kids" to someone who gives a rats arse other then their grandmother..

And to the other guy who isn't the BOTC court Jester Dad with the former chubby now ankle breaking kids who fought off bad parenting that's a good "late bloomer example"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my experience, by 4th-5th grade you can tell which kids are most athletic regardless of the sport they are playing. We all know who those kids are. They are faster and more coordinated, they can catch and throw and kick better and the biggest differentiator is their competitive fire! They are alsways around the ball.. My point is that those same kids who stand out in 7th/8th grade (holdback or not) usually do not fall back in the middle of the pack by their junior yr. So many of you say "just wait until the other boys hit their growth spirt"... On a very rare occasion have I seen a late bloomer come out of nowhere and become the "star athlete".

Superstar elementary school athlete! Have fun with that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my experience, by 4th-5th grade you can tell which kids are most athletic regardless of the sport they are playing. We all know who those kids are. They are faster and more coordinated, they can catch and throw and kick better and the biggest differentiator is their competitive fire! They are alsways around the ball.. My point is that those same kids who stand out in 7th/8th grade (holdback or not) usually do not fall back in the middle of the pack by their junior yr. So many of you say "just wait until the other boys hit their growth spirt"... On a very rare occasion have I seen a late bloomer come out of nowhere and become the "star athlete".

Wow, you are a colossal idiot. You sound like my son's PAL coaches. One nut job told me my son didn't have the right muscle fibers at 11 years old. (his son never played in HS or college) Like you, they couldn't have been more wrong. I have one in college playing and another committed to a top 20 D1 program. Neither were the best, fastest, most athletic in 4th or 5th grade. In fact, one was heavy, and one ran on his heels. Fast forward a few years. One committed as a jr, the other a soph. Lacrosse is unique sport, where dynamic hard working Lacrosse players, surpass superior athletes all the time. It's a rare sport where you can be big, fast, small, tall, short, thick, skinny and still compete at the highest levels. Is being a freak athlete a benefit? Sure. A prerequisite? No. BTW the kid who ran on his heels, became the fastest kid on his HS team. The heavy one, breaks poles ankles anywhere on the field. Don't think my two where outliers, just hard workers at a sport they loved.
Do everyone a favor and take your insane border line creepy assessment of 4th and 5th grade babies somewhere else. Who watches kids that closely? Creeper!!!!

If your kids a sophomore, why are you trolling the 2020 page? I call BS on all of your claims. Just does not work that way! Guy is correct. It is the rare kid who "comes out of nowhere". Why is it creepy watching 5th graders? I did when my sons they were in 5th, then 6th, then 7th......pretty much everything stayed the same. Maybe you were in your car drinking beers while we were all watching the boys play and develop? You sound very angry tool bag, and need to chill a bit.

It's almost comical that people think the proposed legislation is going to solve all the lax recruiting problems.
The NCAA has been down this road before and their hesitation to further regulate is based on lessons learned with the likes of AAU basketball. The unintended conciquenses are the club coaches and individuals with lines of communication Into the college coaches get more powerful and corrupt. Early RecruitIng won't end, it will just take a different look and feel. Since the kids and parents won't be able to contact the coaches they will rely on conduits to plead their casses to be recruited. The club directors everyone hate will only become more important as the process is conducted through intermediaries. Watch out what you wish for.

You all sound like a pack of fools. Arguing about whose kid is the best. Let the kids play, if they decide they want to play in college, good for them. If the commit early and it works out, great. If they don't commit and they walk in and end up being a star, great. If they decide not to play, great. You all need to get a grip. Thw best player in the NCAA this past year was a kid that was not recruited. If you aren't recruited in 8th grade it doesn't mean your lacrosse life is over, even though some people want you to believe it is. Lacrosse is a super rich, white kid sport and in reality, the only people that care about it are the people on this forum. Let your kids have fun, enjoy the game and grow as young men.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my experience, by 4th-5th grade you can tell which kids are most athletic regardless of the sport they are playing. We all know who those kids are. They are faster and more coordinated, they can catch and throw and kick better and the biggest differentiator is their competitive fire! They are alsways around the ball.. My point is that those same kids who stand out in 7th/8th grade (holdback or not) usually do not fall back in the middle of the pack by their junior yr. So many of you say "just wait until the other boys hit their growth spirt"... On a very rare occasion have I seen a late bloomer come out of nowhere and become the "star athlete".

Wow, you are a colossal idiot. You sound like my son's PAL coaches. One nut job told me my son didn't have the right muscle fibers at 11 years old. (his son never played in HS or college) Like you, they couldn't have been more wrong. I have one in college playing and another committed to a top 20 D1 program. Neither were the best, fastest, most athletic in 4th or 5th grade. In fact, one was heavy, and one ran on his heels. Fast forward a few years. One committed as a jr, the other a soph. Lacrosse is unique sport, where dynamic hard working Lacrosse players, surpass superior athletes all the time. It's a rare sport where you can be big, fast, small, tall, short, thick, skinny and still compete at the highest levels. Is being a freak athlete a benefit? Sure. A prerequisite? No. BTW the kid who ran on his heels, became the fastest kid on his HS team. The heavy one, breaks poles ankles anywhere on the field. Don't think my two where outliers, just hard workers at a sport they loved.
Do everyone a favor and take your insane border line creepy assessment of 4th and 5th grade babies somewhere else. Who watches kids that closely? Creeper!!!!

If your kids a sophomore, why are you trolling the 2020 page? I call BS on all of your claims. Just does not work that way! Guy is correct. It is the rare kid who "comes out of nowhere". Why is it creepy watching 5th graders? I did when my sons they were in 5th, then 6th, then 7th......pretty much everything stayed the same. Maybe you were in your car drinking beers while we were all watching the boys play and develop? You sound very angry tool bag, and need to chill a bit.

Oh I can't read other threads now? Call BS all you want,100% TRUE! Doesn't that just burn you? Sorry my kids stories don't fit your dopey narrative, that a kids athletic destiny is set in 4th grade. Take your kid to a clinic or the gym, maybe he'll have half the success mine have had. You're completely and patently clueless on how this and other sports work. Did you watch the Giant game dummy? Rodgers and Matthews had a combined zero D1 offers out of HS!!! Rodgers played at Jr College and then transferred to Cal, and Matthews walked on at USC. I guess nothing changed in their Athletic development either? They just happen to be on the same team and superstars on opposite sides of the ball. I guess it does work that way!!! And yes, you're still creepy.
P.S. No anger here, just can't believe how stupid people like you are. Nothing changes after 4th or 5th grade? How do you even write something like that? Good luck to your poor kid...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my experience, by 4th-5th grade you can tell which kids are most athletic regardless of the sport they are playing. We all know who those kids are. They are faster and more coordinated, they can catch and throw and kick better and the biggest differentiator is their competitive fire! They are alsways around the ball.. My point is that those same kids who stand out in 7th/8th grade (holdback or not) usually do not fall back in the middle of the pack by their junior yr. So many of you say "just wait until the other boys hit their growth spirt"... On a very rare occasion have I seen a late bloomer come out of nowhere and become the "star athlete".

Wow, you are a colossal idiot. You sound like my son's PAL coaches. One nut job told me my son didn't have the right muscle fibers at 11 years old. (his son never played in HS or college) Like you, they couldn't have been more wrong. I have one in college playing and another committed to a top 20 D1 program. Neither were the best, fastest, most athletic in 4th or 5th grade. In fact, one was heavy, and one ran on his heels. Fast forward a few years. One committed as a jr, the other a soph. Lacrosse is unique sport, where dynamic hard working Lacrosse players, surpass superior athletes all the time. It's a rare sport where you can be big, fast, small, tall, short, thick, skinny and still compete at the highest levels. Is being a freak athlete a benefit? Sure. A prerequisite? No. BTW the kid who ran on his heels, became the fastest kid on his HS team. The heavy one, breaks poles ankles anywhere on the field. Don't think my two where outliers, just hard workers at a sport they loved.
Do everyone a favor and take your insane border line creepy assessment of 4th and 5th grade babies somewhere else. Who watches kids that closely? Creeper!!!!

If your kids a sophomore, why are you trolling the 2020 page? I call BS on all of your claims. Just does not work that way! Guy is correct. It is the rare kid who "comes out of nowhere". Why is it creepy watching 5th graders? I did when my sons they were in 5th, then 6th, then 7th......pretty much everything stayed the same. Maybe you were in your car drinking beers while we were all watching the boys play and develop? You sound very angry tool bag, and need to chill a bit.

Oh I can't read other threads now? Call BS all you want,100% TRUE! Doesn't that just burn you? Sorry my kids stories don't fit your dopey narrative, that a kids athletic destiny is set in 4th grade. Take your kid to a clinic or the gym, maybe he'll have half the success mine have had. You're completely and patently clueless on how this and other sports work. Did you watch the Giant game dummy? Rodgers and Matthews had a combined zero D1 offers out of HS!!! Rodgers played at Jr College and then transferred to Cal, and Matthews walked on at USC. I guess nothing changed in their Athletic development either? They just happen to be on the same team and superstars on opposite sides of the ball. I guess it does work that way!!! And yes, you're still creepy.
P.S. No anger here, just can't believe how stupid people like you are. Nothing changes after 4th or 5th grade? How do you even write something like that? Good luck to your poor kid...

I do think 4 or 5th is a little early to dismiss many kids as future good players. I do think that as each year goes by there are less and less players that come out of woodwork. 7-9th grades seem like the most changes take place. But you better be in sport to take advantage of new skills and athleticism.
My experience is that the late blooming really good athletic kid chooses another sport besides Lacrosse. Like Football or basketball.

I couldn't agree more. The guy who said you can tell in 4/5 the grade is some loser who's son was an early developer and knows nothing about sports. Can't wait till the late developers catch up and pass his son by. What a donkey!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I couldn't agree more. The guy who said you can tell in 4/5 the grade is some loser who's son was an early developer and knows nothing about sports. Can't wait till the late developers catch up and pass his son by. What a donkey!

Happens all the time. Friends son in Philly had nearly zero looks summer between 10-11th grade. Made Philly UA team, by scoring 3 goals in final game of tryouts. Within two weeks he had offers from 6 D1 schools including ACC's....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should grandfather in the 2020 class and start the new rule for the 2021 class since they are not in High School yet. Travel teams will suffer because it will not be as necessary to start playing travel at such a early age. The kids will be kids again and travel teams will lose money.

Won't go through. Besides, several 2021s are already very close to commitment.

Don't know much about 2021's but last March the lefty attack from ninedy one was first to commit. But haven't ever heard of a 2021 who is even close to his ability that would garner early recruit talk? What clubs do these 21's play for that they are close to committing?

Clay Matthews came from a family with ties to the NFL. His dad/uncle/grandfather all played in the NFL. He didn't just walk on at USC, all major colleges have a walk on process, if you are not a "select" walk on, you're not getting a shot. Clay Matthews was asked by the coaching staff to walk on.

6' 1 180lb from Laxchussets was 2020 last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clay Matthews came from a family with ties to the NFL. His dad/uncle/grandfather all played in the NFL. He didn't just walk on at USC, all major colleges have a walk on process, if you are not a "select" walk on, you're not getting a shot. Clay Matthews was asked by the coaching staff to walk on.

How many D1 offers did he have? ZERO. Well aware of his lineage. By that measure alone the schools should have been lined up to offer him... Sorry try again.

USC and most d1 college football schools hold open tryouts. Clay was good enough to make their team, and the rest is history. Playing football or basketball is a better option then playing lacrosse. Would you rather have to split your scholarship or have full funding. That's why only rich preppy white boys go on to play lacrosse, cause most families can't afford to have their sons play due to the sheer cost in money and amount of time that would lead up to what? A 1/4 scholarship? That's my 2 cents.

Michael Jordan did not make his varsity basketball team as a sophomore! Some elite athletes are still raw in HS! Some of the most advanced kids in 7th and 8th grade are undersized by 10th and 11th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USC and most d1 college football schools hold open tryouts. Clay was good enough to make their team, and the rest is history. Playing football or basketball is a better option then playing lacrosse. Would you rather have to split your scholarship or have full funding. That's why only rich preppy white boys go on to play lacrosse, cause most families can't afford to have their sons play due to the sheer cost in money and amount of time that would lead up to what? A 1/4 scholarship? That's my 2 cents.

Who told you most D1 programs have open try outs? That is completely untrue. D1 programs do not have open try outs for the whole school. Who told you this? The days of Rudy are over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clay Matthews came from a family with ties to the NFL. His dad/uncle/grandfather all played in the NFL. He didn't just walk on at USC, all major colleges have a walk on process, if you are not a "select" walk on, you're not getting a shot. Clay Matthews was asked by the coaching staff to walk on.

How many D1 offers did he have? ZERO. Well aware of his lineage. By that measure alone the schools should have been lined up to offer him... Sorry try again.

Matthews was a preferred walk on, not some kid who came in from nowhere. He wanted USC, they didn't offer, the coaches told him to walk on, full well knowing he neither needed nor merited a full ride at that time. But would probably earn one later. He wasn't exactly a risk.

Out of all the boys who play in HS, there is a 2.8% chance of them going D1. Long Island is clearly grabbing a large amount of these spots, with some HS teams boasting an average of 5-10 per grade. If you really want to play a D1 sport, fencing is the way to go, where close to 30% go D1. As for the recruiting process, who cares when the kid commits. Congratulations is in order for everyone who makes it to the next level, it doesn't come easy for anyone, despite what you may think. Keep working hard, and you may be next!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's almost comical that people think the proposed legislation is going to solve all the lax recruiting problems.
The NCAA has been down this road before and their hesitation to further regulate is based on lessons learned with the likes of AAU basketball. The unintended conciquenses are the club coaches and individuals with lines of communication Into the college coaches get more powerful and corrupt. Early RecruitIng won't end, it will just take a different look and feel. Since the kids and parents won't be able to contact the coaches they will rely on conduits to plead their casses to be recruited. The club directors everyone hate will only become more important as the process is conducted through intermediaries. Watch out what you wish for.

Absolutely 100% correct. Coaches are still going to seek out the top programs/tourneys/showcases and are still going to have the ear of the club coaches (and vice versa). We will have placed ALL of the power into the hands of the club coaches. 8/1 of junior year isn't going to be some magical time where the playing fields are level and parity is achieved. Far from it. The week of 8/1 will be a very steady stream of TyX tweets in which entire rosters are announced, some of those decisions being made as early as they are now only through the club coaches and not face-to-face with the player and parents. Until you address the club phenomenon, and not sure there's much anyone can do there, you're not going to fix anything substantially. It will quiet the most vocal, but always seems the most vocal are the most vocal for a reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clay Matthews came from a family with ties to the NFL. His dad/uncle/grandfather all played in the NFL. He didn't just walk on at USC, all major colleges have a walk on process, if you are not a "select" walk on, you're not getting a shot. Clay Matthews was asked by the coaching staff to walk on.

How many D1 offers did he have? ZERO. Well aware of his lineage. By that measure alone the schools should have been lined up to offer him... Sorry try again.

Matthews was a preferred walk on, not some kid who came in from nowhere. He wanted USC, they didn't offer, the coaches told him to walk on, full well knowing he neither needed nor merited a full ride at that time. But would probably earn one later. He wasn't exactly a risk.

No risk, and ZERO other offers either. Just accept it. Just like USC, no one else offered him because they didn't think he was that good, they were all wrong.
Did you happen to see who caught the game winning TD in the National Championship game last night? A WALK ON!!! Any idiot that thinks his kid is a D1 player because he's a standout in 4th grade is just plain Bat-[lacrosse] crazy, he's equally as crazy if he thinks the kid whose a little slower or a little less athletic has no shot. Two college players for me, and both were in no way standouts in 4th grade. Good luck to your kids. Last post on the subject for me, I just can't argue with stupid any longer.

Fat kid that ran on is heels. Sounds like the next Paul Rabil to me..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6' 1 180lb from Laxchussets was 2020 last year

So this player at this size could not commit as a 2020? So is now going to commit as a 2021? Is he as good as the lefty attack from ninedy one?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6' 1 180lb from Laxchussets was 2020 last year

So this player at this size could not commit as a 2020? So is now going to commit as a 2021? Is he as good as the lefty attack from ninedy one?

No. Thats why he was moved down. Not as skilled at all. Big/Raw (you know what that means)
Crazy with that size

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6' 1 180lb from Laxchussets was 2020 last year

So this player at this size could not commit as a 2020? So is now going to commit as a 2021? Is he as good as the lefty attack from ninedy one?

I thought the Crush/Blaze double holdback was going to be the first 2021?

6'1", 180lbs.. I'm guessing the coach of the school where this player wants to attend told this player to hold back a year and if he did so, that coach would verbally commit him early in the year.

That is pure speculation but it is all I could think of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fat kid that ran on is heels. Sounds like the next Paul Rabil to me..

Jealousy will eat you alive.

Hahah . I got a good laugh out of that Rabil post. And nice try Dad.. nobody is jealous of your kids who fought of bad parenting to get some some looks. And it's you who is the creeper as you don't even have a player in the 2020 class.

Signed...envious my kids not an "Ankle breaker"...

This was on the 2021 thread but also can be posted here about hold backs:

There are countless studies that support this. Not only as adults but also as kids there are self-esteem issues and many other long term issues that result. An older kid looks and acts different compared to younger kids in his grade. Also you are telling your kid he can't compete with kids his own age. The mind is very complicated. The seeds you plant indirectly by holding back are harmful. Find this study below and go on the internet and search some of these terms and you will see holding back results in many problems.

2003 "Position Statement on Student Grade Retention," the National Association of School Psychologists (NASP)concluded:

* Academic achievement of kids who are retained is poorer than that of peers who are promoted.
* Achievement gains associated with retention fade within two to three years after the grade repeated.
* Retention often is associated with increased behavior problems.
* Grade retention has a negative impact on all areas of a child's achievement (reading, math, and language) and socio-emotional adjustment (peer relationships, self-esteem, problem behaviors, and attendance).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was on the 2021 thread but also can be posted here about hold backs:

There are countless studies that support this. Not only as adults but also as kids there are self-esteem issues and many other long term issues that result. An older kid looks and acts different compared to younger kids in his grade. Also you are telling your kid he can't compete with kids his own age. The mind is very complicated. The seeds you plant indirectly by holding back are harmful. Find this study below and go on the internet and search some of these terms and you will see holding back results in many problems.

2003 "Position Statement on Student Grade Retention," the National Association of School Psychologists (NASP)concluded:

* Academic achievement of kids who are retained is poorer than that of peers who are promoted.
* Achievement gains associated with retention fade within two to three years after the grade repeated.
* Retention often is associated with increased behavior problems.
* Grade retention has a negative impact on all areas of a child's achievement (reading, math, and language) and socio-emotional adjustment (peer relationships, self-esteem, problem behaviors, and attendance).

2003? Was this targeted at prep school lacrosse kids, being that it pre-dated modern day club lacrosse? Was this study for inner city basketball and football? Private school kids that did prefirst or repeated a middle school grade don't qualify for this study, dude!

This is just one of many studies that range from kids having trouble with academics to kids held back for sports or other reasons. This study happens to be 2003 but there are many current ones. This has all the buzz words to do your own internet search to reach your own conclusion. But the overwhelming number of studies from the 90s to present show that holding a kid back for any reason results in social, academic and psychological problems from the time of holdback or shortly thereafter through being an adult. As it said in the 2021 thread before you hold back a kid or Reclass talk to a professional in school or psychology not a lacrosse coach for advice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was on the 2021 thread but also can be posted here about hold backs:

There are countless studies that support this. Not only as adults but also as kids there are self-esteem issues and many other long term issues that result. An older kid looks and acts different compared to younger kids in his grade. Also you are telling your kid he can't compete with kids his own age. The mind is very complicated. The seeds you plant indirectly by holding back are harmful. Find this study below and go on the internet and search some of these terms and you will see holding back results in many problems.

2003 "Position Statement on Student Grade Retention," the National Association of School Psychologists (NASP)concluded:

* Academic achievement of kids who are retained is poorer than that of peers who are promoted.
* Achievement gains associated with retention fade within two to three years after the grade repeated.
* Retention often is associated with increased behavior problems.
* Grade retention has a negative impact on all areas of a child's achievement (reading, math, and language) and socio-emotional adjustment (peer relationships, self-esteem, problem behaviors, and attendance).

2003? Was this targeted at prep school lacrosse kids, being that it pre-dated modern day club lacrosse? Was this study for inner city basketball and football? Private school kids that did prefirst or repeated a middle school grade don't qualify for this study, dude!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is just one of many studies that range from kids having trouble with academics to kids held back for sports or other reasons. This study happens to be 2003 but there are many current ones. This has all the buzz words to do your own internet search to reach your own conclusion. But the overwhelming number of studies from the 90s to present show that holding a kid back for any reason results in social, academic and psychological problems from the time of holdback or shortly thereafter through being an adult. As it said in the 2021 thread before you hold back a kid or Reclass talk to a professional in school or psychology not a lacrosse coach for advice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was on the 2021 thread but also can be posted here about hold backs:

There are countless studies that support this. Not only as adults but also as kids there are self-esteem issues and many other long term issues that result. An older kid looks and acts different compared to younger kids in his grade. Also you are telling your kid he can't compete with kids his own age. The mind is very complicated. The seeds you plant indirectly by holding back are harmful. Find this study below and go on the internet and search some of these terms and you will see holding back results in many problems.

2003 "Position Statement on Student Grade Retention," the National Association of School Psychologists (NASP)concluded:

* Academic achievement of kids who are retained is poorer than that of peers who are promoted.
* Achievement gains associated with retention fade within two to three years after the grade repeated.
* Retention often is associated with increased behavior problems.
* Grade retention has a negative impact on all areas of a child's achievement (reading, math, and language) and socio-emotional adjustment (peer relationships, self-esteem, problem behaviors, and attendance).

2003? Was this targeted at prep school lacrosse kids, being that it pre-dated modern day club lacrosse? Was this study for inner city basketball and football? Private school kids that did prefirst or repeated a middle school grade don't qualify for this study, dude!

The vast amount of studies have nothing to do with affluent lacrosse kids. But hey whatever fits your model, go with it.

Rick kids are part of the studies too. Do you think it is bad advice to ask medical and school professionals to do an assessment and give an opinion before a kid is held back? The truth is no professional would advise to hold back for sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is just one of many studies that range from kids having trouble with academics to kids held back for sports or other reasons. This study happens to be 2003 but there are many current ones. This has all the buzz words to do your own internet search to reach your own conclusion. But the overwhelming number of studies from the 90s to present show that holding a kid back for any reason results in social, academic and psychological problems from the time of holdback or shortly thereafter through being an adult. As it said in the 2021 thread before you hold back a kid or Reclass talk to a professional in school or psychology not a lacrosse coach for advice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was on the 2021 thread but also can be posted here about hold backs:

There are countless studies that support this. Not only as adults but also as kids there are self-esteem issues and many other long term issues that result. An older kid looks and acts different compared to younger kids in his grade. Also you are telling your kid he can't compete with kids his own age. The mind is very complicated. The seeds you plant indirectly by holding back are harmful. Find this study below and go on the internet and search some of these terms and you will see holding back results in many problems.

2003 "Position Statement on Student Grade Retention," the National Association of School Psychologists (NASP)concluded:

* Academic achievement of kids who are retained is poorer than that of peers who are promoted.
* Achievement gains associated with retention fade within two to three years after the grade repeated.
* Retention often is associated with increased behavior problems.
* Grade retention has a negative impact on all areas of a child's achievement (reading, math, and language) and socio-emotional adjustment (peer relationships, self-esteem, problem behaviors, and attendance).

2003? Was this targeted at prep school lacrosse kids, being that it pre-dated modern day club lacrosse? Was this study for inner city basketball and football? Private school kids that did prefirst or repeated a middle school grade don't qualify for this study, dude!

The vast amount of studies have nothing to do with affluent lacrosse kids. But hey whatever fits your model, go with it.

Wondering if anybody went down to the STX Rising event in Florida last weekend?

Any legit feedback to share? We passed this time around but interested for next year.....

Wondering if anybody went down to the STX Rising event in Florida last weekend?

Any legit feedback to share? We passed this time around but interested for next year.....
___________________
STX Rising is a joke. Total money grab now. Mediocre players pay $600 for chance to advance to play with more mediocre players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rick kids are part of the studies too. Do you think it is bad advice to ask medical and school professionals to do an assessment and give an opinion before a kid is held back? The truth is no professional would advise to hold back for sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is just one of many studies that range from kids having trouble with academics to kids held back for sports or other reasons. This study happens to be 2003 but there are many current ones. This has all the buzz words to do your own internet search to reach your own conclusion. But the overwhelming number of studies from the 90s to present show that holding a kid back for any reason results in social, academic and psychological problems from the time of holdback or shortly thereafter through being an adult. As it said in the 2021 thread before you hold back a kid or Reclass talk to a professional in school or psychology not a lacrosse coach for advice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was on the 2021 thread but also can be posted here about hold backs:

There are countless studies that support this. Not only as adults but also as kids there are self-esteem issues and many other long term issues that result. An older kid looks and acts different compared to younger kids in his grade. Also you are telling your kid he can't compete with kids his own age. The mind is very complicated. The seeds you plant indirectly by holding back are harmful. Find this study below and go on the internet and search some of these terms and you will see holding back results in many problems.

2003 "Position Statement on Student Grade Retention," the National Association of School Psychologists (NASP)concluded:

* Academic achievement of kids who are retained is poorer than that of peers who are promoted.
* Achievement gains associated with retention fade within two to three years after the grade repeated.
* Retention often is associated with increased behavior problems.
* Grade retention has a negative impact on all areas of a child's achievement (reading, math, and language) and socio-emotional adjustment (peer relationships, self-esteem, problem behaviors, and attendance).

2003? Was this targeted at prep school lacrosse kids, being that it pre-dated modern day club lacrosse? Was this study for inner city basketball and football? Private school kids that did prefirst or repeated a middle school grade don't qualify for this study, dude!

The vast amount of studies have nothing to do with affluent lacrosse kids. But hey whatever fits your model, go with it.

So you read the study? It discussed affluent suburban kids? You really read the study? Maybe not the same one I read, because nowhere did they discuss affluent suburban children. They discussed inner city kids in NYC, Detroit and a couple of other real lax hot beds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if anybody went down to the STX Rising event in Florida last weekend?

Any legit feedback to share? We passed this time around but interested for next year.....
___________________
STX Rising is a joke. Total money grab now. Mediocre players pay $600 for chance to advance to play with more mediocre players.

FYI, it has always been a joke just like all of these events. They are all money grabs that are "sold" to parents and kids as "you have to do this or you won't get recruited" events. Save your money. If your kid is good, they will find a place to play in college, if they aren't then it doesn't matter how much money you spend, he still won't play.

Lets cut to the chase - if you are reclassing your kid so he can be better at lacrosse your priorities are way off...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets cut to the chase - if you are reclassing your kid so he can be better at lacrosse your priorities are way off...

I don't entirely disagree, but if holding back your kid equals admission to a great school, one that may have been out of reach if left on grade, is it worth it? Not something happening in my house, but if you look at many of the rosters of most ACC/Ivy/Big 10 schools there are a WHOLE lot of kids who did just that. The main argument people on this site have with hold backs is it cheats a kid (theirs) out of a valuable starting roster spot. So let's not all sit on here acting like we're making the argument for the good of the game or some other high calling, it's all about what is best for ours.

Did read countless studies in connection with work. Rich kids are no different than anyone else. If you are looking for studies to support this is wrong you may find one or two but there are hundreds that support these theories over the last 30 years. Simple solution is don't hold a kid back until you make an informed decision and speak with the proper professionals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rick kids are part of the studies too. Do you think it is bad advice to ask medical and school professionals to do an assessment and give an opinion before a kid is held back? The truth is no professional would advise to hold back for sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is just one of many studies that range from kids having trouble with academics to kids held back for sports or other reasons. This study happens to be 2003 but there are many current ones. This has all the buzz words to do your own internet search to reach your own conclusion. But the overwhelming number of studies from the 90s to present show that holding a kid back for any reason results in social, academic and psychological problems from the time of holdback or shortly thereafter through being an adult. As it said in the 2021 thread before you hold back a kid or Reclass talk to a professional in school or psychology not a lacrosse coach for advice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was on the 2021 thread but also can be posted here about hold backs:

There are countless studies that support this. Not only as adults but also as kids there are self-esteem issues and many other long term issues that result. An older kid looks and acts different compared to younger kids in his grade. Also you are telling your kid he can't compete with kids his own age. The mind is very complicated. The seeds you plant indirectly by holding back are harmful. Find this study below and go on the internet and search some of these terms and you will see holding back results in many problems.

2003 "Position Statement on Student Grade Retention," the National Association of School Psychologists (NASP)concluded:

* Academic achievement of kids who are retained is poorer than that of peers who are promoted.
* Achievement gains associated with retention fade within two to three years after the grade repeated.
* Retention often is associated with increased behavior problems.
* Grade retention has a negative impact on all areas of a child's achievement (reading, math, and language) and socio-emotional adjustment (peer relationships, self-esteem, problem behaviors, and attendance).

2003? Was this targeted at prep school lacrosse kids, being that it pre-dated modern day club lacrosse? Was this study for inner city basketball and football? Private school kids that did prefirst or repeated a middle school grade don't qualify for this study, dude!

The vast amount of studies have nothing to do with affluent lacrosse kids. But hey whatever fits your model, go with it.

So you read the study? It discussed affluent suburban kids? You really read the study? Maybe not the same one I read, because nowhere did they discuss affluent suburban children. They discussed inner city kids in NYC, Detroit and a couple of other real lax hot beds.

These kids will get in better schools but with a useless major at an unknown cost as described it the post regarding the negatives of holding back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets cut to the chase - if you are reclassing your kid so he can be better at lacrosse your priorities are way off...

I don't entirely disagree, but if holding back your kid equals admission to a great school, one that may have been out of reach if left on grade, is it worth it? Not something happening in my house, but if you look at many of the rosters of most ACC/Ivy/Big 10 schools there are a WHOLE lot of kids who did just that. The main argument people on this site have with hold backs is it cheats a kid (theirs) out of a valuable starting roster spot. So let's not all sit on here acting like we're making the argument for the good of the game or some other high calling, it's all about what is best for ours.

What do people think about the NLF event down at IMG this weekend?

I've got news for you, a worthless major at an IVY is better for employment then a so called career major at an average school. Wall Street is filled with salesman that are Ivy League athletes that took the easy way through.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These kids will get in better schools but with a useless major at an unknown cost as described it the post regarding the negatives of holding back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets cut to the chase - if you are reclassing your kid so he can be better at lacrosse your priorities are way off...

I don't entirely disagree, but if holding back your kid equals admission to a great school, one that may have been out of reach if left on grade, is it worth it? Not something happening in my house, but if you look at many of the rosters of most ACC/Ivy/Big 10 schools there are a WHOLE lot of kids who did just that. The main argument people on this site have with hold backs is it cheats a kid (theirs) out of a valuable starting roster spot. So let's not all sit on here acting like we're making the argument for the good of the game or some other high calling, it's all about what is best for ours.

So only the hold back will have a useless major? Based on what?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've got news for you, a worthless major at an IVY is better for employment then a so called career major at an average school. Wall Street is filled with salesman that are Ivy League athletes that took the easy way through.

totally not true, just because you have a degree from an Ivy league school does not mean you will be successful. You still need to have your act together.

I am not sure if a history major from Yale is better off compared to a Business major from a lesser school. It all depends what you want to do after college but to say that a weaker major from an Ivy is getting a kid to wall street is reckless. Most history majors if hired are not doing well on wall street.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've got news for you, a worthless major at an IVY is better for employment then a so called career major at an average school. Wall Street is filled with salesman that are Ivy League athletes that took the easy way through.

totally not true, just because you have a degree from an Ivy league school does not mean you will be successful. You still need to have your act together.

Amazing the small amount of discussion on this site that actually has to do with lacrosse.

Page after page of inane entries by self-appointed child development experts on the impact of holding kids back.

Give it a rest already!

You have no idea what u are talking about. Wall St is filled with Ivy League Psych and History majors.

Yes. Many could not get jobs. So they take a job anyone can get and fail on Wall Street.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no idea what u are talking about. Wall St is filled with Ivy League Psych and History majors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no idea what u are talking about. Wall St is filled with Ivy League Psych and History majors.

and, you are calling that successful?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not sure if a history major from Yale is better off compared to a Business major from a lesser school. It all depends what you want to do after college but to say that a weaker major from an Ivy is getting a kid to wall street is reckless. Most history majors if hired are not doing well on wall street.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've got news for you, a worthless major at an IVY is better for employment then a so called career major at an average school. Wall Street is filled with salesman that are Ivy League athletes that took the easy way through.

totally not true, just because you have a degree from an Ivy league school does not mean you will be successful. You still need to have your act together.

I hadn't realized that the only way to make a living after college is to make sure you play lacrosse at an Ivy league school?!?! Kids and parents, the programs and alumni networks at the ACC/Big Ten/Big East/Patriot/NESCAC/etc. leagues are worthless for getting good jobs on Wall Street (clearly the only goal to have). No one from ND, Duke, Hopkins, PSU, OSU, Vermont, Villanova, Georgetown, Fairfield, Bucknell, Colgate, etc. ever succeeded or had success with their alumni networks or in life, period. So, hang up your sticks and dreams of playing big time lax. It's all over. Why are you guys giving away this knowledge for free on BOTC???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no idea what u are talking about. Wall St is filled with Ivy League Psych and History majors.

So being a salesman on Wall St is considered successful. Please.....Give us a break. Have more respect for nursing etc than the self absorbed jack@sses down on The Street.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing the small amount of discussion on this site that actually has to do with lacrosse.

Page after page of inane entries by self-appointed child development experts on the impact of holding kids back.

Give it a rest already!

Thanks for your opinion on an anonymous board . . . you know what they say about opinions . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wondering if anybody went down to the STX Rising event in Florida last weekend?

Any legit feedback to share? We passed this time around but interested for next year.....
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STX Rising is a joke. Total money grab now. Mediocre players pay $600 for chance to advance to play with more mediocre players.

Guess you were not there. As usual those not involved with something have to trash it. To the original posters question, it was a good event. Well run, great drills and a great 2 1/2 days for the kids who wanted to get the most out of it. Games were competitive but there was a lot of showboating which to the organizers credit, they corrected as much as possible. The talent ranged from elite level players to kids who probably were a bit over their head which happens at most events. This was one of the two "tryout" events for the STX 3D Rising event to be held this summer. Not the event to go to if you want sidelines of coaches and it is not geared toward that - the coaches will be at the main event after the kids are filtered a bit more during the training and drills at the feeder events. All in all a good experience for our son. And before Mr Negativity jumps in, my son plays at a high level and although not committed yet, has had significant # of phone conversations, unofficial visit invites and interest from top D1 schools based on his summer and fall playing. He wanted to attend for the training and the opportunity to play at the main event. If your son does not need constant stroking as to playing only with the best and wants to continue to learn new skills during thr off season, then go for it. It was not wasted money or time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no idea what u are talking about. Wall St is filled with Ivy League Psych and History majors.

Funny. And completely untrue.

My son is on a very good travel team. Multiple teammates of his have made commitments. I have noticed a pretty big drop in team practices after fall ball. Have any others on the board seen a decrease in practice this winter compared to last in this age group?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do people think about the NLF event down at IMG this weekend?

Attended last year. Decided not to go this year. A good event promoted as something more than it is. Same as any overnight training camp. The kids that attend are not necessarily the best of the NLF clubs and spots are filled with kids from some of the club's lower teams. It was also not sold out this year which says a lot. Still good training in sunny Florida so just like STX Rising, if a kids wants more practice in off season, wants to experience something a bit different at a beautiful facility and has the money, go for it.

Brine Warrior and Underarmour tryouts same days in Baltimore area - pros and cons of both to help decide?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine Warrior and Underarmour tryouts same days in Baltimore area - pros and cons of both to help decide?

There will be college coaches at the UA tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is on a very good travel team. Multiple teammates of his have made commitments. I have noticed a pretty big drop in team practices after fall ball. Have any others on the board seen a decrease in practice this winter compared to last in this age group?

Yes. High School now, and Winter Sports occupy lots of weekends.

I see the faceoff mid for crushers has reclassed to 2021.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the faceoff mid for crushers has reclassed to 2021.

Old news, while the other current and other 2 former Crush F/O have all committed to top schools. Why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine Warrior and Underarmour tryouts same days in Baltimore area - pros and cons of both to help decide?

There will be college coaches at the UA tryout.

Apparently UA will also be much better this year. Perhaps they now understand that handing the selection keys to local club and HS coaches tarnishes their credibility and drives away top talent that knows they can't beat politics. Kudos to UA if this actually happens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see the faceoff mid for crushers has reclassed to 2021.

Old news, while the other current and other 2 former Crush F/O have all committed to top schools. Why?

I guess u follow 9t1 on Instagram

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine Warrior and Underarmour tryouts same days in Baltimore area - pros and cons of both to help decide?

There will be college coaches at the UA tryout.

Apparently UA will also be much better this year. Perhaps they now understand that handing the selection keys to local club and HS coaches tarnishes their credibility and drives away top talent that knows they can't beat politics. Kudos to UA if this actually happens.

No they still have 9t1 and Express running Long Island. Guess who will be chosen???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine Warrior and Underarmour tryouts same days in Baltimore area - pros and cons of both to help decide?

There will be college coaches at the UA tryout.

Apparently UA will also be much better this year. Perhaps they now understand that handing the selection keys to local club and HS coaches tarnishes their credibility and drives away top talent that knows they can't beat politics. Kudos to UA if this actually happens.

No they still have 9t1 and Express running Long Island. Guess who will be chosen???

Exactly, college coaches will be there during the tryout games to recruit players. The final team will be picked 3 weeks prior at a Diner somewhere on LI. Think Brin&. With that said, if you're son is looking to get recruited it is by far the best event to be seen at for the money, and no travel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine Warrior and Underarmour tryouts same days in Baltimore area - pros and cons of both to help decide?

There will be college coaches at the UA tryout.

Apparently UA will also be much better this year. Perhaps they now understand that handing the selection keys to local club and HS coaches tarnishes their credibility and drives away top talent that knows they can't beat politics. Kudos to UA if this actually happens.

No they still have 9t1 and Express running Long Island. Guess who will be chosen???

Exactly, college coaches will be there during the tryout games to recruit players. The final team will be picked 3 weeks prior at a Diner somewhere on LI. Think Brin&. With that said, if you're son is looking to get recruited it is by far the best event to be seen at for the money, and no travel.

Is it too late to leave our club and ask to join 9t1 and express since it's a rigged system??

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

If your concerned about making the team and you don't play for one of the clubs doing the evaluations don't bother. But if your son wants to play in front of a good amount of coaches fo recruiting purposes at a reasonable reg. Fee and you don't have to leave the island, then it's more than worth it. The college coaches show up for the try out days because they know the fix is in. They understand that the best players don't necessarily make the team or even the final 88 or whatever the number they're using is now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

If your concerned about making the team and you don't play for one of the clubs doing the evaluations don't bother. But if your son wants to play in front of a good amount of coaches fo recruiting purposes at a reasonable reg. Fee and you don't have to leave the island, then it's more than worth it. The college coaches show up for the try out days because they know the fix is in. They understand that the best players don't necessarily make the team or even the final 88 or whatever the number they're using is now.

Great point. My son is committed, but we don't play for one of the big clubs, so why bother?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine Warrior and Underarmour tryouts same days in Baltimore area - pros and cons of both to help decide?

There will be college coaches at the UA tryout.

Apparently UA will also be much better this year. Perhaps they now understand that handing the selection keys to local club and HS coaches tarnishes their credibility and drives away top talent that knows they can't beat politics. Kudos to UA if this actually happens.

No they still have 9t1 and Express running Long Island. Guess who will be chosen???

Exactly, college coaches will be there during the tryout games to recruit players. The final team will be picked 3 weeks prior at a Diner somewhere on LI. Think Brin&. With that said, if you're son is looking to get recruited it is by far the best event to be seen at for the money, and no travel.

Is it too late to leave our club and ask to join 9t1 and express since it's a rigged system??

Don't call 90+1 they won't look at your son, but... call Channy. He'll take your money and put your son on the club. Don't know if he already knows who he is choosing before tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Are the politics as bad in Baltimore for the UA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Are the politics as bad in Baltimore for the UA?

Absolutely, Command division had majority FCA/CHC kids on squad. Guess who controlled selections?

Who exactly are you referring to as being "in control" of UA selections in 2016?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Are the politics as bad in Baltimore for the UA?

Absolutely, Command division had majority FCA/CHC kids on squad. Guess who controlled selections?

The Command Team that won the whole thing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do people think about the NLF event down at IMG this weekend?

Attended last year. Decided not to go this year. A good event promoted as something more than it is. Same as any overnight training camp. The kids that attend are not necessarily the best of the NLF clubs and spots are filled with kids from some of the club's lower teams. It was also not sold out this year which says a lot. Still good training in sunny Florida so just like STX Rising, if a kids wants more practice in off season, wants to experience something a bit different at a beautiful facility and has the money, go for it.

some of our team decided to save the money and go to the Syracuse indoor event run by United lacrosse. No promises were made who would be their from the NCAA coaching world but we were pleasantly surprised to see the entire coaching staff from Syracuse as well as many of the Upstate NY teams. The event ran on swiss time. Congrats Steve C great job!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Are the politics as bad in Baltimore for the UA?

Absolutely, Command division had majority FCA/CHC kids on squad. Guess who controlled selections?

The Command Team that won the whole thing?

Yes the Baltimore Championship team. Hope they pick as "badly" this year as last. Funny. Guess the politics made them not undefeated enough......he he

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

If your concerned about making the team and you don't play for one of the clubs doing the evaluations don't bother. But if your son wants to play in front of a good amount of coaches fo recruiting purposes at a reasonable reg. Fee and you don't have to leave the island, then it's more than worth it. The college coaches show up for the try out days because they know the fix is in. They understand that the best players don't necessarily make the team or even the final 88 or whatever the number they're using is now.

Great point. My son is committed, but we don't play for one of the big clubs, so why bother?

Mines committed as well. He wants to go, he'll smoke the kids they pick, and we'll have a laugh over it. Good lesson in how politics work. Same deal with that Brin$ deal back in 8th grade. Many of the kids that made those teams a few years back are still uncommitted. Why do you think LI can never win the UA event?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

If your concerned about making the team and you don't play for one of the clubs doing the evaluations don't bother. But if your son wants to play in front of a good amount of coaches fo recruiting purposes at a reasonable reg. Fee and you don't have to leave the island, then it's more than worth it. The college coaches show up for the try out days because they know the fix is in. They understand that the best players don't necessarily make the team or even the final 88 or whatever the number they're using is now.

Great point. My son is committed, but we don't play for one of the big clubs, so why bother?

Mines committed as well. He wants to go, he'll smoke the kids they pick, and we'll have a laugh over it. Good lesson in how politics work. Same deal with that Brin$ deal back in 8th grade. Many of the kids that made those teams a few years back are still uncommitted. Why do you think LI can never win the UA event?

Exactly!

Who picks the teams and do the same people pick the team for all grades every year or does it change year to year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

If your concerned about making the team and you don't play for one of the clubs doing the evaluations don't bother. But if your son wants to play in front of a good amount of coaches fo recruiting purposes at a reasonable reg. Fee and you don't have to leave the island, then it's more than worth it. The college coaches show up for the try out days because they know the fix is in. They understand that the best players don't necessarily make the team or even the final 88 or whatever the number they're using is now.

Great point. My son is committed, but we don't play for one of the big clubs, so why bother?

Mines committed as well. He wants to go, he'll smoke the kids they pick, and we'll have a laugh over it. Good lesson in how politics work. Same deal with that Brin$ deal back in 8th grade. Many of the kids that made those teams a few years back are still uncommitted. Why do you think LI can never win the UA event?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Are the politics as bad in Baltimore for the UA?

Absolutely, Command division had majority FCA/CHC kids on squad. Guess who controlled selections?

I think there were as many, if not more Crabs players than FCA players on the Baltimore Command team. Stands to reason as they are the best club teams in Baltimore and two of the best teams in the country.

Crabs and FCA - tied for #1 at Holdbacks!

There is a reason UA removed the birth dates of the players from their website - it's because it was an embarrassment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs and FCA - tied for #1 at Holdbacks!

There is a reason UA removed the birth dates of the players from their website - it's because it was an embarrassment.

Who won the UA Command division? Baltimore

those who evaluated and selected the team really messed that one up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Are the politics as bad in Baltimore for the UA?

Absolutely, Command division had majority FCA/CHC kids on squad. Guess who controlled selections?

I think there were as many, if not more Crabs players than FCA players on the Baltimore Command team. Stands to reason as they are the best club teams in Baltimore and two of the best teams in the country.

No, just the oldest. Leading the country in 19 and 20 year old HS Seniors. Nothing like trotting out kids that should be Sophomores in college to play 17 and 18 year olds. Oh right they're in HS now it doesn't matter. So if it doesn't matter, why not put and age qualifier on the UA games? Should be U-18.

Crabs Lacrosse - if you are 16 and in the 8th grade - we have a spot for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs Lacrosse - if you are 16 and in the 8th grade - we have a spot for you.

Is it ethical? Well, it's not illegal - Crabs Handbook

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Are the politics as bad in Baltimore for the UA?

Absolutely, Command division had majority FCA/CHC kids on squad. Guess who controlled selections?

I think there were as many, if not more Crabs players than FCA players on the Baltimore Command team. Stands to reason as they are the best club teams in Baltimore and two of the best teams in the country.

I think UA did the best job that they could. The head coach was from Gilman, a few people by position to evaluate. When you have 250 kids tryout for 22 slots, you are bound to get frustrated players and parents when the player is not selected

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

Are the politics as bad in Baltimore for the UA?

Absolutely, Command division had majority FCA/CHC kids on squad. Guess who controlled selections?

I think there were as many, if not more Crabs players than FCA players on the Baltimore Command team. Stands to reason as they are the best club teams in Baltimore and two of the best teams in the country.

I think UA did the best job that they could. The head coach was from Gilman, a few people by position to evaluate. When you have 250 kids tryout for 22 slots, you are bound to get frustrated players and parents when the player is not selected

The head coach was Keith Gonsouland from River Hill High School in Howard County and he did an amazing job. One of the assistant coaches was from Gilman and one was from Calvert Hall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Under Armour is clearly the more prestigious of the two. However - unless it can escape the politics that picked last years team it ain't worth the $$$.

If your concerned about making the team and you don't play for one of the clubs doing the evaluations don't bother. But if your son wants to play in front of a good amount of coaches fo recruiting purposes at a reasonable reg. Fee and you don't have to leave the island, then it's more than worth it. The college coaches show up for the try out days because they know the fix is in. They understand that the best players don't necessarily make the team or even the final 88 or whatever the number they're using is now.

Great point. My son is committed, but we don't play for one of the big clubs, so why bother?

Mines committed as well. He wants to go, he'll smoke the kids they pick, and we'll have a laugh over it. Good lesson in how politics work. Same deal with that Brin$ deal back in 8th grade. Many of the kids that made those teams a few years back are still uncommitted. Why do you think LI can never win the UA event?

That's funny because there are only three non express 9d1 kids committed so instead of being anonymous you should of signed you names because we all know #DUHH

Most of the LI teams didn't return to our Box tournament this weekend. Guess they didn't want to get embarrassed by Madlax.

The only reason we didn't come to your tournament is because it sux!!!, as does your team. Much better options that are much closer such as the Fusiontourney this weekend.

How did things go at NLF at IMG? Depth of talent? Which schools/recruiters showed up?

NLF at IMG - another money grab by the fat crab. Lil baby Ty Ty on his payroll. Do they live together?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NLF at IMG - another money grab by the fat crab. Lil baby Ty Ty on his payroll. Do they live together?

It was a good event. There are definitely far worse ones.

All these events are money grabs and NLF doesn't benefit only the Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NLF at IMG - another money grab by the fat crab. Lil baby Ty Ty on his payroll. Do they live together?

Ty must be on someone's payroll with some of the BS he writes and reports. My son's favorite was when Ty wrote about an early commit team mate of his at an IL tourney, " so n so is a great teammate and communicator, both on the field and off." . My son's response to me, he's a great talent and real nice kid, but out of 5 tournaments he purposely stayed in a different hotel 4 times, and if there was one complaint from our coaches, he NEVER talked on the field "... comical

No - I don't think ALL of these events are money grabs. NXT Philly Freshman Showcase is well worth it if you can get in it. We had multiple requests for campus visits and several offers after playing in the all-star game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only reason we didn't come to your tournament is because it sux!!!, as does your team. Much better options that are much closer such as the Fusiontourney this weekend.

Another tough LI dad. How many carports do you own?

This 2020 thread is dead. Not surprising given how the Mid Atlantic 2020 teams are dominant at this grade level.

Shots fired, Captain. Shots fired.

"This 2020 thread is dead. Not surprising given how the Mid Atlantic 2020 teams are dominant at this grade level."

Great! Enjoy your day now that you got that off your chest. Next post please.

Who are the teams that will be most fun to watch battle this summer? Will anyone beat Crush this summer?

I'm hoping Edge and Crush play a times, hopefully they are in some events together

There were some pretty good match-ups this fall at the Hill School. Would be interesting to see some of those games again in the summer without any football conflicts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This 2020 thread is dead. Not surprising given how the Mid Atlantic 2020 teams are dominant at this grade level.

Says a proud father of a 16 year old freshman....

Nope, my son is 14. Did you get another arm tat this week?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This 2020 thread is dead. Not surprising given how the Mid Atlantic 2020 teams are dominant at this grade level.

Says a proud father of a 16 year old freshman....

This tired argument was supposed to end after youth ball. Please don't tell me it's getting carried into HS now.

Played at 4HHH and it was a good game. We asked for a rematch at their very own NLF event in Long Island the following week and sadly couldn't be accommodated. Edge are playing at 4HHH, Crabfeast and either NXT or NLF July 15-16. Hopefully we can play another game. No excuses from us as our full roster (no hockey) is coming with us,

Anyone have a clue what's being cooked up June 10/11 by NLF? The Main Event? assuming if legit there will be some good games that weekend.

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have a clue what's being cooked up June 10/11 by NLF? The Main Event? assuming if legit there will be some good games that weekend.

It's the 2021/20/19/18 arm of the NLF LI event on the same dates for the younger age groups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

Nope, they are bailing. Will have most this summer, after that they're done!

Crush will disband soon. The team was always just about the top 5-6 kids. Everyone else is disposal and are there just because they are extra dollars.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will disband soon. The team was always just about the top 5-6 kids. Everyone else is disposal and are there just because they are extra dollars.

That is pretty funny stuff. Several are already committed, so there are 5 or 6 that have totally benefited. So when the next 5 to 10 benefit through being on Crush everyone can laugh at what a moronic hater you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

I'm sure they will lose a game this summer.. probably to Edge, Crabs or Looneys

Will be fun to see those teams battle it out...

Should just have a tournament where 6 teams such as crush, crabs, looneys, west coast just battle it out head to head one weekend. Would be some great lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

I'm sure they will lose a game this summer.. probably to Edge, Crabs or Looneys

Will be fun to see those teams battle it out...

Should just have a tournament where 6 teams such as crush, crabs, looneys, west coast just battle it out head to head one weekend. Would be some great lacrosse

West Coast not a top team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

I'm sure they will lose a game this summer.. probably to Edge, Crabs or Looneys

Will be fun to see those teams battle it out...

Should just have a tournament where 6 teams such as crush, crabs, looneys, west coast just battle it out head to head one weekend. Would be some great lacrosse

West Coast not a top team

crush, crabs, looneys, edge, sweetlax national team, laxachusetts. Didn't all play at hill last fall? great games. crush still team to beat but edge and for a bit sweet lax gave them a run for their money. at full strength laxachusetts will be tough. you could add express and NXT too. NXT looked good at their tourney last fall. all of these teams also have multiple commits who will be playing with one another. that would be a great weekend of lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

I'm sure they will lose a game this summer.. probably to Edge, Crabs or Looneys

Will be fun to see those teams battle it out...

Should just have a tournament where 6 teams such as crush, crabs, looneys, west coast just battle it out head to head one weekend. Would be some great lacrosse

West Coast not a top team

who are the top teams then?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

I'm sure they will lose a game this summer.. probably to Edge, Crabs or Looneys

Will be fun to see those teams battle it out...

Should just have a tournament where 6 teams such as crush, crabs, looneys, west coast just battle it out head to head one weekend. Would be some great lacrosse

West Coast not a top team

who are the top teams then?

Crush, Looneys, FCA,Crabs

Next Teer:

Edge
Sweetlax National
Terps
Tomahawks
WCS

Could definitely be some reshuffling this summer. Ans PLEASE don't start with the reclass BS, it's a null point now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

I'm sure they will lose a game this summer.. probably to Edge, Crabs or Looneys

Will be fun to see those teams battle it out...

Should just have a tournament where 6 teams such as crush, crabs, looneys, west coast just battle it out head to head one weekend. Would be some great lacrosse

West Coast not a top team

who are the top teams then?

Crush, Looneys, FCA,Crabs

Next Teer:

Edge
Sweetlax National
Terps
Tomahawks
WCS

Could definitely be some reshuffling this summer. Ans PLEASE don't start with the reclass BS, it's a null point now.

the [lacrosse] with reclass BS, I didn't realize Looneys, FCA and Crabs have beaten Crush recently and are now in their 'teer'.

Are Annapolis Hawks still relevant??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush have everyone back this summer?

Yes I am sure

I'm sure they will lose a game this summer.. probably to Edge, Crabs or Looneys

Will be fun to see those teams battle it out...

Should just have a tournament where 6 teams such as crush, crabs, looneys, west coast just battle it out head to head one weekend. Would be some great lacrosse

West Coast not a top team

who are the top teams then?

Crush, Looneys, FCA,Crabs

Next Teer:

Edge
Sweetlax National
Terps
Tomahawks
WCS

Could definitely be some reshuffling this summer. Ans PLEASE don't start with the reclass BS, it's a null point now.

Edge and sweetlax would be in the top bracket about top 5 teams then it drops off.

Question will any of them actually top crush? Any bold predictions.

Better question is will any teams beat crush this summer?

Crabs have beaten crush, Looneys within 1. FCA very competitive with that group, so yes same teer. Stop crying Crush daddy, you're going down this year!

Crabs were terrible last summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Annapolis Hawks still relevant??

Not really

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs have beaten crush, Looneys within 1. FCA very competitive with that group, so yes same teer. Stop crying Crush daddy, you're going down this year!

Edge beat Crabs 8-5 in Baltimore at Boy's Latin and were 8-8 with Crush when they scored to make it 9-8 with a minute left. Hopefully these teams get to play each other this summer as well as looney's and fca

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Better question is will any teams beat crush this summer?

Yes. Same happened to the Turtles at the stage. Inevitable

Um, its tier, not teer...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

Plus shed a few bad apples, were strong during Fall

Crabs 2020 beat Crush when? Please don't say Beach lax. Crabs played their 2019s in that game. Bunch of cheaters.

Given the fact the virtually the entire starting line up of the Crabs 2020 team is reclassed with a couple double holdbacks in there for good measure they are mediocre at best. If you are going to game the system - at least make sure you win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

For Crabs standards they were'nt bad they were awful

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 beat Crush when? Please don't say Beach lax. Crabs played their 2019s in that game. Bunch of cheaters.

Given the fact the virtually the entire starting line up of the Crabs 2020 team is reclassed with a couple double holdbacks in there for good measure they are mediocre at best. If you are going to game the system - at least make sure you win.

Aren't there Crush players who should be 2019, one playing as a 2021now? Those who live in glass houses......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

Wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Crabs standards they were'nt bad they were awful

Looked good this Fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

Wrong

Sorry, right or to make it easier for you correct, loaded with holdbacks last season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

You are fake news. We have the greatest people, and many many people are saying incredible things about our movement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Crabs standards they were'nt bad they were awful

Looked good this Fall.

What, when they were posing in front to the MVA getting their learners permit and some their driving license.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

Wrong

Sorry, right or to make it easier for you correct, loaded with holdbacks last season.

This is a high school group now. Only a weak-minded parent of an average player would re-introduce this argument this year, dude. Should we talk about the year your kid had to play against a second grader in first grade rec now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Crabs standards they were'nt bad they were awful

Looked good this Fall.

What, when they were posing in front to the MVA getting their learners permit and some their driving license.

Yes for learners. No for license, that would be next year. Still living with that argument in HS now, weak.55

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

Wrong

Sorry, right or to make it easier for you correct, loaded with holdbacks last season.

This is a high school group now. Only a weak-minded parent of an average player would re-introduce this argument this year, dude. Should we talk about the year your kid had to play against a second grader in first grade rec now.

HAHA So well said for every holdback complainer!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

Wrong

Sorry, right or to make it easier for you correct, loaded with holdbacks last season.

This is a high school group now. Only a weak-minded parent of an average player would re-introduce this argument this year, dude. Should we talk about the year your kid had to play against a second grader in first grade rec now.

Gee dude, I don't know, what do you think dude? You write and speak like you are 12 years old.

This is a high school group now. Only a weak-minded parent of an average player would re-introduce this argument this year, dude. Should we talk about the year your kid had to play against a second grader in first grade rec now.[/quote]

HAHA So well said for every holdback complainer!! [/quote]

Says the dad who has a kid that was a holdback all thru grade base lacrosse and now in high school can't even make the freshman team. Wow, the sh*t has caught up to your kid. Must be scratching your [lacrosse] wondering what went wrong. What a pathetic individual you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a high school group now. Only a weak-minded parent of an average player would re-introduce this argument this year, dude. Should we talk about the year your kid had to play against a second grader in first grade rec now.

HAHA So well said for every holdback complainer!! [/quote]

Says the dad who has a kid that was a holdback all thru grade base lacrosse and now in high school can't even make the freshman team. Wow, the sh*t has caught up to your kid. Must be scratching your [lacrosse] wondering what went wrong. What a pathetic individual you are. [/quote]

D

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

Totally right on you being liberal, can't dispute the facts 1,000 + 2020 teams and Crabs was in top 2% and you say they sucked. I'm not even a crabs parent. I agree they game. Still doesn't mean they sucked. You probably just threw a street sign through starbucks tool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

Wrong

Sorry, right or to make it easier for you correct, loaded with holdbacks last season.

This is a high school group now. Only a weak-minded parent of an average player would re-introduce this argument this year, dude. Should we talk about the year your kid had to play against a second grader in first grade rec now.

Holdback parents always want people to forget their kid has been cheating the system. If your holdback plays on a "varsity" division travel team, I agree holdback status does not matter. But if you want to play as a 2020, the cheating still matters. Still getting an advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

You are fake news. We have the greatest people, and many many people are saying incredible things about our movement.

. Do you mean your movement headed straight to [lacrosse], where it and trump boy belong. Many many people there just waiting for your quick arrival.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were terrible last summer

You are like a liberal. There are 1000 2020 teams and Crabs was probably in top 10 but there are terrible. DB

And you seem to be like Kellyanne Conway with your alternate facts. Crabs 2020 were not that good last summer, in spite of most of the 2020 team made up of holdbacks and a few double holdbacks.
Stop your bullsh*t and face the truth, Crabs games the system anyway they can. It's the way they operate and it isn't going to change. This is the way Ryan McClernan works. Why do you think he is so disliked in the lacrosse community? It is directly because he is a cheat and manipulator, always has and always will. Now run along, I believe I hear [lacrosse]*cface trump calling you.

You are fake news. We have the greatest people, and many many people are saying incredible things about our movement.

. Do you mean your movement headed straight to [lacrosse], where it and trump boy belong. Many many people there just waiting for your quick arrival.

Ahh, the tolerant left wishing other people to [lacrosse] because of a lacrosse forum disagreement. Great great people.

Wrong

Holdback parents always want people to forget their kid has been cheating the system. If your holdback plays on a "varsity" division travel team, I agree holdback status does not matter. But if you want to play as a 2020, the cheating still matters. Still getting an advantage. [/quote]

Varsity travel team, are you even talking about lacrosse? Enough with the f'ing hold back BS argument, and this is coming from a parent of a kid that played up a year through middle school for my own convenience. Seriously shut the f up. These kids are going to be running their own lives soon. Stop f'ing whining in front of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong

Holdback parents always want people to forget their kid has been cheating the system. If your holdback plays on a "varsity" division travel team, I agree holdback status does not matter. But if you want to play as a 2020, the cheating still matters. Still getting an advantage.

Varsity travel team, are you even talking about lacrosse? Enough with the f'ing hold back BS argument, and this is coming from a parent of a kid that played up a year through middle school for my own convenience. Seriously shut the f up. These kids are going to be running their own lives soon. Stop f'ing whining in front of them.[/quote]

Sorry the argument is inconvenient for you. A 14 yr old is not running his life any time soon. Perhaps your 16 yr old freshman is ready to leave the house to get away from you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong

Holdback parents always want people to forget their kid has been cheating the system. If your holdback plays on a "varsity" division travel team, I agree holdback status does not matter. But if you want to play as a 2020, the cheating still matters. Still getting an advantage.

Varsity travel team, are you even talking about lacrosse? Enough with the f'ing hold back BS argument, and this is coming from a parent of a kid that played up a year through middle school for my own convenience. Seriously shut the f up. These kids are going to be running their own lives soon. Stop f'ing whining in front of them.

Sorry the argument is inconvenient for you. A 14 yr old is not running his life any time soon. Perhaps your 16 yr old freshman is ready to leave the house to get away from you. [/quote]

Whining adults cause whining kids, just what the world needs more of..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong

Holdback parents always want people to forget their kid has been cheating the system. If your holdback plays on a "varsity" division travel team, I agree holdback status does not matter. But if you want to play as a 2020, the cheating still matters. Still getting an advantage.

Varsity travel team, are you even talking about lacrosse? Enough with the f'ing hold back BS argument, and this is coming from a parent of a kid that played up a year through middle school for my own convenience. Seriously shut the f up. These kids are going to be running their own lives soon. Stop f'ing whining in front of them.

Sorry the argument is inconvenient for you. A 14 yr old is not running his life any time soon. Perhaps your 16 yr old freshman is ready to leave the house to get away from you.

Whining adults cause whining kids, just what the world needs more of.. [/quote] Just like we need more hold back cheaters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong

Holdback parents always want people to forget their kid has been cheating the system. If your holdback plays on a "varsity" division travel team, I agree holdback status does not matter. But if you want to play as a 2020, the cheating still matters. Still getting an advantage.

Varsity travel team, are you even talking about lacrosse? Enough with the f'ing hold back BS argument, and this is coming from a parent of a kid that played up a year through middle school for my own convenience. Seriously shut the f up. These kids are going to be running their own lives soon. Stop f'ing whining in front of them.

Sorry the argument is inconvenient for you. A 14 yr old is not running his life any time soon. Perhaps your 16 yr old freshman is ready to leave the house to get away from you.

Whining adults cause whining kids, just what the world needs more of..[/quote]

Correct. The holdback parents should stop whining. The posts above attempting to silence the argument is little more than the typist putting their fingers in their ears, stomping their feet, and saying "na na na na I can't hear you." Silencing the opposition is what passes for discourse these days. The practice of holding kids back has hurt the game. Is there really any dispute with that? If you have a holdback in high school now, you will not hear much complaining during school ball, but people know who has gamed the system. They will always be looked at with a jaded eye.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong

Holdback parents always want people to forget their kid has been cheating the system. If your holdback plays on a "varsity" division travel team, I agree holdback status does not matter. But if you want to play as a 2020, the cheating still matters. Still getting an advantage.

Varsity travel team, are you even talking about lacrosse? Enough with the f'ing hold back BS argument, and this is coming from a parent of a kid that played up a year through middle school for my own convenience. Seriously shut the f up. These kids are going to be running their own lives soon. Stop f'ing whining in front of them.

Sorry the argument is inconvenient for you. A 14 yr old is not running his life any time soon. Perhaps your 16 yr old freshman is ready to leave the house to get away from you.

Whining adults cause whining kids, just what the world needs more of..

Correct. The holdback parents should stop whining. The posts above attempting to silence the argument is little more than the typist putting their fingers in their ears, stomping their feet, and saying "na na na na I can't hear you." Silencing the opposition is what passes for discourse these days. The practice of holding kids back has hurt the game. Is there really any dispute with that? If you have a holdback in high school now, you will not hear much complaining during school ball, but people know who has gamed the system. They will always be looked at with a jaded eye. [/quote]

Here's the problem, though. One thing to not like the rules, but another thing entirely to pretend that the parent of a kid that does pre-first at the age of 6 is gaming anything. Also not fair to assume that a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.. grader is going to step up to the registration table and sign up for +1 grade above his own because one day, down the road, like in 6th/7th/8th grade when the competition starts getting more fierce, some whining parents are going to start screaming holdback, holdback, blah blah blah. In a grade based system, folks need to understand there are different school curriculums that need to meld together at some point.

I love all the holdback parents coming on here and somehow because 2020 is now a 'high school' year, then everything is all right and even again. (Despite not one 2020 has played a game in HS yet). If your 16 year old freshman is playing varsity this year, then more power to him and that can be respected, but during the upcoming summer season, if he's on a 2020 team, he will be at times playing against younger competition. And for your ego I hope he dominates.
But if you think as parents we are sometimes nasty about the subject, then you should hear our kids talk about local kids who have all of a sudden repeated for 'lacrosse reasons'.
I also understand that if your son goes to a Prep school then its almost a prerequisite that he repeats, but this is where lacrosse, and it's antiquated grade based system of summer tournaments, etc. has allowed many to game the system. Lacrosse is the only sport that comes to mind where the stigma of playing down during the travel season is somehow defended.

I have a 2021 who plays on decent B club, and is not even on the top middie line. He filled in on a 2022 A team last year and looked like Paul Rabil - I was under no illusion of his abilities and, in fact, I was embarrassed that I let him fill in. That is what holdbacks are doing the sport and, and even worse their parents are encouraging and defending the practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong

Holdback parents always want people to forget their kid has been cheating the system. If your holdback plays on a "varsity" division travel team, I agree holdback status does not matter. But if you want to play as a 2020, the cheating still matters. Still getting an advantage.

Varsity travel team, are you even talking about lacrosse? Enough with the f'ing hold back BS argument, and this is coming from a parent of a kid that played up a year through middle school for my own convenience. Seriously shut the f up. These kids are going to be running their own lives soon. Stop f'ing whining in front of them.

Sorry the argument is inconvenient for you. A 14 yr old is not running his life any time soon. Perhaps your 16 yr old freshman is ready to leave the house to get away from you.

Whining adults cause whining kids, just what the world needs more of..

Correct. The holdback parents should stop whining. The posts above attempting to silence the argument is little more than the typist putting their fingers in their ears, stomping their feet, and saying "na na na na I can't hear you." Silencing the opposition is what passes for discourse these days. The practice of holding kids back has hurt the game. Is there really any dispute with that? If you have a holdback in high school now, you will not hear much complaining during school ball, but people know who has gamed the system. They will always be looked at with a jaded eye.

Here's the problem, though. One thing to not like the rules, but another thing entirely to pretend that the parent of a kid that does pre-first at the age of 6 is gaming anything. Also not fair to assume that a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.. grader is going to step up to the registration table and sign up for +1 grade above his own because one day, down the road, like in 6th/7th/8th grade when the competition starts getting more fierce, some whining parents are going to start screaming holdback, holdback, blah blah blah. In a grade based system, folks need to understand there are different school curriculums that need to meld together at some point. [/quote] I think for the most part people have no issue with the pre-first and early year grade school decisions parents have made, but when it's done in the 8th/9th grade and done for purely lacrosse reasons, and in this current grade based system, then I think I can point out the absurdity of it. A local 2019 kid, who was on the 8th grade honor roll and only plays lacrosse, a strong, but short and slow kid where the game is slowly passing him by, repeats 8th grade (at a private school, only to come back to the public school) and now takes the spot of someone on the 2020 travel team. I'm sorry, there is something inherently wrong with that and I'm not sure that decision is made if lacrosse was on an age based system. (My son is on the original 2019 team so was not affected, but I can't help but roll my eyes.)

Here's the problem, though. One thing to not like the rules, but another thing entirely to pretend that the parent of a kid that does pre-first at the age of 6 is gaming anything. Also not fair to assume that a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.. grader is going to step up to the registration table and sign up for +1 grade above his own because one day, down the road, like in 6th/7th/8th grade when the competition starts getting more fierce, some whining parents are going to start screaming holdback, holdback, blah blah blah. In a grade based system, folks need to understand there are different school curriculums that need to meld together at some point. [/quote] I think for the most part people have no issue with the pre-first and early year grade school decisions parents have made, but when it's done in the 8th/9th grade and done for purely lacrosse reasons, and in this current grade based system, then I think I can point out the absurdity of it. A local 2019 kid, who was on the 8th grade honor roll and only plays lacrosse, a strong, but short and slow kid where the game is slowly passing him by, repeats 8th grade (at a private school, only to come back to the public school) and now takes the spot of someone on the 2020 travel team. I'm sorry, there is something inherently wrong with that and I'm not sure that decision is made if lacrosse was on an age based system. (My son is on the original 2019 team so was not affected, but I can't help but roll my eyes.) [/quote]

Any reasonable person would agree with you on that example.

wait till you see how many hold backs come out of the wood work when they pass the ne wrecruiting rules in April. Coaches cant talk to the kids till September of JR year

Imagine the good things you guys could do for this world instead of obsessing over the ages of boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the problem, though. One thing to not like the rules, but another thing entirely to pretend that the parent of a kid that does pre-first at the age of 6 is gaming anything. Also not fair to assume that a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.. grader is going to step up to the registration table and sign up for +1 grade above his own because one day, down the road, like in 6th/7th/8th grade when the competition starts getting more fierce, some whining parents are going to start screaming holdback, holdback, blah blah blah. In a grade based system, folks need to understand there are different school curriculums that need to meld together at some point.

I think for the most part people have no issue with the pre-first and early year grade school decisions parents have made, but when it's done in the 8th/9th grade and done for purely lacrosse reasons, and in this current grade based system, then I think I can point out the absurdity of it. A local 2019 kid, who was on the 8th grade honor roll and only plays lacrosse, a strong, but short and slow kid where the game is slowly passing him by, repeats 8th grade (at a private school, only to come back to the public school) and now takes the spot of someone on the 2020 travel team. I'm sorry, there is something inherently wrong with that and I'm not sure that decision is made if lacrosse was on an age based system. (My son is on the original 2019 team so was not affected, but I can't help but roll my eyes.) [/quote]

Any reasonable person would agree with you on that example. [/quote]

Age based eliminates this argument forever. Just like every other legitimate sport...

But I keep reading on BOTC that High Sxhool teams can beat D3 teams. Kind of kills the argument about hold backs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Imagine the good things you guys could do for this world instead of obsessing over the ages of boys.

Or just obsessing over boys...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a 2021 who plays on decent B club, and is not even on the top middie line. He filled in on a 2022 A team last year and looked like Paul Rabil - I was under no illusion of his abilities and, in fact, I was embarrassed that I let him fill in. That is what holdbacks are doing the sport and, and even worse their parents are encouraging and defending the practice.

True dat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a 2021 who plays on decent B club, and is not even on the top middie line. He filled in on a 2022 A team last year and looked like Paul Rabil - I was under no illusion of his abilities and, in fact, I was embarrassed that I let him fill in. That is what holdbacks are doing the sport and, and even worse their parents are encouraging and defending the practice.

True dat

If you are against holdbacks why did you let him play? You take a stand against something and then you do it? Hmmmm, you're lying!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a 2021 who plays on decent B club, and is not even on the top middie line. He filled in on a 2022 A team last year and looked like Paul Rabil - I was under no illusion of his abilities and, in fact, I was embarrassed that I let him fill in. That is what holdbacks are doing the sport and, and even worse their parents are encouraging and defending the practice.

True dat

If you are against holdbacks why did you let him play? You take a stand against something and then you do it? Hmmmm, you're lying!!

I let him play because the team was having a hard time getting enough players to play that day, and considering his talent, I didn't think he would be THAT much better, if at all, than the younger A players. To be clear, I am against the premise of holdbacks playing regularly for nominally younger teams. My son is not a holdback, and it was one game, and I didn't let him do it again, even though he was asked to a couple more times. Not even close to the same thing as having your son play day-in-day-out with younger kids. See the difference?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a 2021 who plays on decent B club, and is not even on the top middie line. He filled in on a 2022 A team last year and looked like Paul Rabil - I was under no illusion of his abilities and, in fact, I was embarrassed that I let him fill in. That is what holdbacks are doing the sport and, and even worse their parents are encouraging and defending the practice.

True dat

If you are against holdbacks why did you let him play? You take a stand against something and then you do it? Hmmmm, you're lying!!

I let him play because the team was having a hard time getting enough players to play that day, and considering his talent, I didn't think he would be THAT much better, if at all, than the younger A players. To be clear, I am against the premise of holdbacks playing regularly for nominally younger teams. My son is not a holdback, and it was one game, and I didn't let him do it again, even though he was asked to a couple more times. Not even close to the same thing as having your son play day-in-day-out with younger kids. See the difference?

No, take a stand, don't let him play down at all. You now let other parents see the advantage of holdback because your son dominated the game. See the point!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a 2021 who plays on decent B club, and is not even on the top middie line. He filled in on a 2022 A team last year and looked like Paul Rabil - I was under no illusion of his abilities and, in fact, I was embarrassed that I let him fill in. That is what holdbacks are doing the sport and, and even worse their parents are encouraging and defending the practice.

True dat

If you are against holdbacks why did you let him play? You take a stand against something and then you do it? Hmmmm, you're lying!!

I let him play because the team was having a hard time getting enough players to play that day, and considering his talent, I didn't think he would be THAT much better, if at all, than the younger A players. To be clear, I am against the premise of holdbacks playing regularly for nominally younger teams. My son is not a holdback, and it was one game, and I didn't let him do it again, even though he was asked to a couple more times. Not even close to the same thing as having your son play day-in-day-out with younger kids. See the difference?

No, take a stand, don't let him play down at all. You now let other parents see the advantage of holdback because your son dominated the game. See the point!!

Did you miss where I said I wouldn't let him do it again??

Bunch of snowflakes on this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bunch of snowflakes on this site.

The real snowflakes can't deal with reality and has to have their "superstar" kid play against other kids 12-24 months younger in order to compete. Now go back to work before your millennial boss catches you.

Your son FILLED in so the team could get a win. If they didn't have the players they should have forfeited! I personally don't care about holdbacks. When my son was in 7th grade he played in a HS tournament. He held his own. Certainly didn't dominate, but didn't get beat up either. I would never allow him to FILL in against younger kids.

The hold back thing drove me crazy when my son was younger. The amoral parents don't care and sadly, neither do the coaches. It is here to stay. Try to control what you can control and don't let that issue diminish the joy you are experiencing with your children. If you want to worry about something, worry about arriving at the Notre Dame prospect day and seeing a ton of unbelievably good players from teams and places you have never heard of in the central and western US and Canada. The sport is growing so fast that I think opportunities to play D1, let alone D3 will be very, very scarce in another 5-10 years. Good luck.

Work? I'm washing the IROC in the carport today. Snowflake.

What is all of this snowflake talk? Is this some type of racist slander like cracker or honky?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is all of this snowflake talk? Is this some type of racist slander like cracker or honky?

If pathetic liberal butthurt losers were a race, then yes, it is racist slander.

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That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVNC SF
Alcatraz Outlaws
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Lacrosse
Carolina Cannons
Cincy Royals 2020 Elite
Crabs
Eclipse
EDGE
FCA
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Bluefish
LI Express
LI Express North
Looney's
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Next Level
NH Tomahawks
PA Roughriders
Patriot 2020
Philadelphia Freedom
Resolute
SoCal Express
Team 91
Team Igloo
Team Minnesota
Team ONE
UC Mavericks
VLC
That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

you know if Team 91 is Crush or 91 MD?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your son FILLED in so the team could get a win. If they didn't have the players they should have forfeited! I personally don't care about holdbacks. When my son was in 7th grade he played in a HS tournament. He held his own. Certainly didn't dominate, but didn't get beat up either. I would never allow him to FILL in against younger kids.

They didn't win, so, in the end, it was moot!

Which 91 team matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVNC SF
Alcatraz Outlaws
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Lacrosse
Carolina Cannons
Cincy Royals 2020 Elite
Crabs
Eclipse
EDGE
FCA
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Bluefish
LI Express
LI Express North
Looney's
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Next Level
NH Tomahawks
PA Roughriders
Patriot 2020
Philadelphia Freedom
Resolute
SoCal Express
Team 91
Team Igloo
Team Minnesota
Team ONE
UC Mavericks
VLC
That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

you know if Team 91 is Crush or 91 MD?

That sunday is start of 20s showtime. we're doing showtime. curious how this overlap is going to affect both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is all of this snowflake talk? Is this some type of racist slander like cracker or honky?

If pathetic liberal butthurt losers were a race, then yes, it is racist slander.

So.....it's a political thing then?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Work? I'm washing the IROC in the carport today. Snowflake.

Listen, I apologize. No way you are a snowflake if you have an IROC and carport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is all of this snowflake talk? Is this some type of racist slander like cracker or honky?

If pathetic liberal butthurt losers were a race, then yes, it is racist slander.

So.....it's a political thing then?

The loopy lefties gave us this gem after the election defeat, now used for anyone that you consider weak, whiny, sore loser, can't get over anything you don't agree with, etc..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is all of this snowflake talk? Is this some type of racist slander like cracker or honky?

If pathetic liberal butthurt losers were a race, then yes, it is racist slander.

So.....it's a political thing then?

The loopy lefties gave us this gem after the election defeat, now used for anyone that you consider weak, whiny, sore loser, can't get over anything you don't agree with, etc..

Got it, thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your son FILLED in so the team could get a win. If they didn't have the players they should have forfeited! I personally don't care about holdbacks. When my son was in 7th grade he played in a HS tournament. He held his own. Certainly didn't dominate, but didn't get beat up either. I would never allow him to FILL in against younger kids.

If a team really can't fill out their roster I would much rather them bring other kids in even if the were a little older than have them forfeit. The point of youth athletics is to compete and get better not to "win" by forfeit. Usually teams that are short aren't very good anyway. It sounds like in this situation everyone benefited from the boy playing down by having a more competitive game rather than a blowout or a forfeit. I realize that some teams abuse any discretion by bringing in a bunch of older kids, blowing everyone out and then talking about how great they are but it doesn't sound like that is what happened here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your son FILLED in so the team could get a win. If they didn't have the players they should have forfeited! I personally don't care about holdbacks. When my son was in 7th grade he played in a HS tournament. He held his own. Certainly didn't dominate, but didn't get beat up either. I would never allow him to FILL in against younger kids.

If a team really can't fill out their roster I would much rather them bring other kids in even if the were a little older than have them forfeit. The point of youth athletics is to compete and get better not to "win" by forfeit. Usually teams that are short aren't very good anyway. It sounds like in this situation everyone benefited from the boy playing down by having a more competitive game rather than a blowout or a forfeit. I realize that some teams abuse any discretion by bringing in a bunch of older kids, blowing everyone out and then talking about how great they are but it doesn't sound like that is what happened here.

Cant disagree with your Logic. Its when it is abuse like anythign else it becomes the cancer. Play your skill level or slightly above and you get better. again keeping it competitive where anyone could win

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your son FILLED in so the team could get a win. If they didn't have the players they should have forfeited! I personally don't care about holdbacks. When my son was in 7th grade he played in a HS tournament. He held his own. Certainly didn't dominate, but didn't get beat up either. I would never allow him to FILL in against younger kids.

If a team really can't fill out their roster I would much rather them bring other kids in even if the were a little older than have them forfeit. The point of youth athletics is to compete and get better not to "win" by forfeit. Usually teams that are short aren't very good anyway. It sounds like in this situation everyone benefited from the boy playing down by having a more competitive game rather than a blowout or a forfeit. I realize that some teams abuse any discretion by bringing in a bunch of older kids, blowing everyone out and then talking about how great they are but it doesn't sound like that is what happened here.

Cant disagree with your Logic. Its when it is abuse like anythign else it becomes the cancer. Play your skill level or slightly above and you get better. again keeping it competitive where anyone could win

The part you miss is all the other parents seeing the "older" kid dominate. What do you think these people take away from this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

you know if Team 91 is Crush or 91 MD?

That sunday is start of 20s showtime. we're doing showtime. curious how this overlap is going to affect both.

Its 89+2 Long island attending.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your son FILLED in so the team could get a win. If they didn't have the players they should have forfeited! I personally don't care about holdbacks. When my son was in 7th grade he played in a HS tournament. He held his own. Certainly didn't dominate, but didn't get beat up either. I would never allow him to FILL in against younger kids.

If a team really can't fill out their roster I would much rather them bring other kids in even if the were a little older than have them forfeit. The point of youth athletics is to compete and get better not to "win" by forfeit. Usually teams that are short aren't very good anyway. It sounds like in this situation everyone benefited from the boy playing down by having a more competitive game rather than a blowout or a forfeit. I realize that some teams abuse any discretion by bringing in a bunch of older kids, blowing everyone out and then talking about how great they are but it doesn't sound like that is what happened here.

Cant disagree with your Logic. Its when it is abuse like anythign else it becomes the cancer. Play your skill level or slightly above and you get better. again keeping it competitive where anyone could win

The part you miss is all the other parents seeing the "older" kid dominate. What do you think these people take away from this?

They take away their son played a good competitive game which is better than blowing someone out or staying home playing xbox because the other team forfeited. I assume they already knew older kids or kids who hit puberty early have an advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVNC SF
Alcatraz Outlaws
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Lacrosse
Carolina Cannons
Cincy Royals 2020 Elite
Crabs
Eclipse
EDGE
FCA
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Bluefish
LI Express
LI Express North
Looney's
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Next Level
NH Tomahawks
PA Roughriders
Patriot 2020
Philadelphia Freedom
Resolute
SoCal Express
Team 91
Team Igloo
Team Minnesota
Team ONE
UC Mavericks
VLC
That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

you know if Team 91 is Crush or 91 MD?

That sunday is start of 20s showtime. we're doing showtime. curious how this overlap is going to affect both.

Its 89+2 Long island attending.

Still could just be Orange and not Crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVNC SF
Alcatraz Outlaws
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Lacrosse
Carolina Cannons
Cincy Royals 2020 Elite
Crabs
Eclipse
EDGE
FCA
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Bluefish
LI Express
LI Express North
Looney's
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Next Level
NH Tomahawks
PA Roughriders
Patriot 2020
Philadelphia Freedom
Resolute
SoCal Express
Team 91
Team Igloo
Team Minnesota
Team ONE
UC Mavericks
VLC
That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

That looks like an amazing line up, looks like all the top teams/programs are going to be there!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVNC SF
Alcatraz Outlaws
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Lacrosse
Carolina Cannons
Cincy Royals 2020 Elite
Crabs
Eclipse
EDGE
FCA
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Bluefish
LI Express
LI Express North
Looney's
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Next Level
NH Tomahawks
PA Roughriders
Patriot 2020
Philadelphia Freedom
Resolute
SoCal Express
Team 91
Team Igloo
Team Minnesota
Team ONE
UC Mavericks
VLC
That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

That looks like an amazing line up, looks like all the top teams/programs are going to be there!!!

Hope it's a good schedule put together so the so called top tier get to play each other

Madlax will make all of you fools shut up this summer. No excuses now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVNC SF
Alcatraz Outlaws
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Lacrosse
Carolina Cannons
Cincy Royals 2020 Elite
Crabs
Eclipse
EDGE
FCA
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Bluefish
LI Express
LI Express North
Looney's
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Next Level
NH Tomahawks
PA Roughriders
Patriot 2020
Philadelphia Freedom
Resolute
SoCal Express
Team 91
Team Igloo
Team Minnesota
Team ONE
UC Mavericks
VLC
That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

That looks like an amazing line up, looks like all the top teams/programs are going to be there!!!

Hope it's a good schedule put together so the so called top tier get to play each other

32 teams listed, 8 are good. Some of the other tops not there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVNC SF
Alcatraz Outlaws
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Lacrosse
Carolina Cannons
Cincy Royals 2020 Elite
Crabs
Eclipse
EDGE
FCA
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Bluefish
LI Express
LI Express North
Looney's
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Next Level
NH Tomahawks
PA Roughriders
Patriot 2020
Philadelphia Freedom
Resolute
SoCal Express
Team 91
Team Igloo
Team Minnesota
Team ONE
UC Mavericks
VLC
That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

That looks like an amazing line up, looks like all the top teams/programs are going to be there!!!

Hope it's a good schedule put together so the so called top tier get to play each other

32 teams listed, 8 are good. Some of the other tops not there.

Dont know why all the top teams aren't going? Maybe they just couldn't get in, but this does look like the best tournament of the summer!

Who are the top 8 at that tournament then?????

Crabfeast is always the best tournament of the summer. Everyone knows that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax will make all of you fools shut up this summer. No excuses now.

No doubt. Surely this summer your 2020 team will be chock full of former 2018's that will be a hair away from turning 18, as well as a healthy dose of 17 year olds. They'll get in there car and drive away after their big victory over some on age team... Buckle in, this is par for the course at this tournament.

Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

this is the most accurate list I have ever seen. Clearly you have seen all those teams play!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax will make all of you fools shut up this summer. No excuses now.

No doubt. Surely this summer your 2020 team will be chock full of former 2018's that will be a hair away from turning 18, as well as a healthy dose of 17 year olds. They'll get in there car and drive away after their big victory over some on age team... Buckle in, this is par for the course at this tournament.

Your obsession with the age of some boys is bizarre. They are in HS now. Cry about ages to a college recruiter and watch him strike your family's name off his list. LOL Long Island.

I agree ....but I guarantee that poster cannot keep her mouth shut. going to obsess over this . sadly, its probably some talking point she/he picked up from another malcontent in the stands or sideline

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

this is the most accurate list I have ever seen. Clearly you have seen all those teams play!

Not only have I seen them all play, but I adjust my Maryland Matrix on a nightly basis....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVNC SF
Alcatraz Outlaws
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Lacrosse
Carolina Cannons
Cincy Royals 2020 Elite
Crabs
Eclipse
EDGE
FCA
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Bluefish
LI Express
LI Express North
Looney's
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Next Level
NH Tomahawks
PA Roughriders
Patriot 2020
Philadelphia Freedom
Resolute
SoCal Express
Team 91
Team Igloo
Team Minnesota
Team ONE
UC Mavericks
VLC
That's the sold out field for Crabfeast. This event should put the rest some of the discussions over the pecking order in this group.

That looks like an amazing line up, looks like all the top teams/programs are going to be there!!!

Hope it's a good schedule put together so the so called top tier get to play each other

32 teams listed, 8 are good. Some of the other tops not there.

Dont know why all the top teams aren't going? Maybe they just couldn't get in, but this does look like the best tournament of the summer!

All the top teams not there because RM plays the politics game. Some top teams want nothing to do with his tourneys and others he keeps out for personal vendettas. Well known facts about the tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

per 91 website 2020 orange at crabfeast not crush

I am sure someone touch on this before but can you please advise as to what showcase/tryouts that are realistic (Under Armour, Warrior, Philly, ...????). I would like to register my son for a couple of them. Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure someone touch on this before but can you please advise as to what showcase/tryouts that are realistic (Under Armour, Warrior, Philly, ...????). I would like to register my son for a couple of them. Thank you

Too late for Showtime, which is probably the best, but UA is well attended, especially if you make it to MD, a new one that looks interesting is Warrior All-America. Jake Reed is defunct.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure someone touch on this before but can you please advise as to what showcase/tryouts that are realistic (Under Armour, Warrior, Philly, ...????). I would like to register my son for a couple of them. Thank you

Too late for Showtime, which is probably the best, but UA is well attended, especially if you make it to MD, a new one that looks interesting is Warrior All-America. Jake Reed is defunct.

Pretty sure Warrior event only goes up to 8th grade. I believe Black Card still a good event, but that too is closed out.

[quote=Anonymous]I agree ....but I guarantee that poster cannot keep her mouth shut. going to obsess over this . sadly, its probably some talking point she/he picked up from another malcontent in the stands or sideline

[Oh its a she alright, we know who she is. A pissed off mom who's kid was displaced from the Crabs team a few years back. Her style and lack of general intelligence can always be spotted. ]

How is the Philly summer showcase ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure someone touch on this before but can you please advise as to what showcase/tryouts that are realistic (Under Armour, Warrior, Philly, ...????). I would like to register my son for a couple of them. Thank you

Too late for Showtime, which is probably the best, but UA is well attended, especially if you make it to MD, a new one that looks interesting is Warrior All-America. Jake Reed is defunct.

Jake reed isn't defunct. Now called Nike blue chip

What does that mean that Jake Reed is defunct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does that mean that Jake Reed is defunct?

Waste of time and money. Not elite anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

Annapolis Hawks???

Not sure which top tier teams the above poster thinks are not at Crab Feast - but it is by far the best tournament for recruiting on the calendar. Crush will be there - not sure why they should be afraid to attend - they have never lost to any of the teams attending? Have they ever lost other than Beachlax when Crabs played their 19s? Ask yourself what all the top tier programs have in common (at least the MIAA feeder programs and Edge - all stocked with older kids! Sham!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax will make all of you fools shut up this summer. No excuses now.

No doubt. Surely this summer your 2020 team will be chock full of former 2018's that will be a hair away from turning 18, as well as a healthy dose of 17 year olds. They'll get in there car and drive away after their big victory over some on age team... Buckle in, this is par for the course at this tournament.

Your obsession with the age of some boys is bizarre. They are in HS now. Cry about ages to a college recruiter and watch him strike your family's name off his list. LOL Long Island.

Mines committed. On age and regularly smokes holdbacks. Clearly many of the holdbacks and double holdbacks will make great 20 or 21 year old freshman back up players in d3. LOL on that MD. Mine will have been working for two years before your flunkie even hits the job market at 24. LOL on that MD. Oh btw check the number of D1 recruits from MD over the last few years... Way down. LOL on that MD. Looks pretty clear, most likely you'll have that 20 year old D3 freshman. Now that's really funny. Double hold back that goes D3, is there anything funnier? Six years of HS to chase a D1 dream and your riding the pine in d3.. Ouch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure which top tier teams the above poster thinks are not at Crab Feast - but it is by far the best tournament for recruiting on the calendar. Crush will be there - not sure why they should be afraid to attend - they have never lost to any of the teams attending? Have they ever lost other than Beachlax when Crabs played their 19s? Ask yourself what all the top tier programs have in common (at least the MIAA feeder programs and Edge - all stocked with older kids! Sham!

Enough with the older kid [lacrosse] it's gettin old

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax will make all of you fools shut up this summer. No excuses now.

No doubt. Surely this summer your 2020 team will be chock full of former 2018's that will be a hair away from turning 18, as well as a healthy dose of 17 year olds. They'll get in there car and drive away after their big victory over some on age team... Buckle in, this is par for the course at this tournament.

Your obsession with the age of some boys is bizarre. They are in HS now. Cry about ages to a college recruiter and watch him strike your family's name off his list. LOL Long Island.

Mines committed. On age and regularly smokes holdbacks. Clearly many of the holdbacks and double holdbacks will make great 20 or 21 year old freshman back up players in d3. LOL on that MD. Mine will have been working for two years before your flunkie even hits the job market at 24. LOL on that MD. Oh btw check the number of D1 recruits from MD over the last few years... Way down. LOL on that MD. Looks pretty clear, most likely you'll have that 20 year old D3 freshman. Now that's really funny. Double hold back that goes D3, is there anything funnier? Six years of HS to chase a D1 dream and your riding the pine in d3.. Ouch.

If your so confident in your comments what team will your committed son play for this summer?

Please stop with all the LOL, it's like a 14 year old girl texting! Additionally, mines is not correct. The proper word is mine. Mines is something miners dig for things such as coal, diamonds, and other types of minerals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax will make all of you fools shut up this summer. No excuses now.

No doubt. Surely this summer your 2020 team will be chock full of former 2018's that will be a hair away from turning 18, as well as a healthy dose of 17 year olds. They'll get in there car and drive away after their big victory over some on age team... Buckle in, this is par for the course at this tournament.

Thought so... all talk won't back it up
Your obsession with the age of some boys is bizarre. They are in HS now. Cry about ages to a college recruiter and watch him strike your family's name off his list. LOL Long Island.

Mines committed. On age and regularly smokes holdbacks. Clearly many of the holdbacks and double holdbacks will make great 20 or 21 year old freshman back up players in d3. LOL on that MD. Mine will have been working for two years before your flunkie even hits the job market at 24. LOL on that MD. Oh btw check the number of D1 recruits from MD over the last few years... Way down. LOL on that MD. Looks pretty clear, most likely you'll have that 20 year old D3 freshman. Now that's really funny. Double hold back that goes D3, is there anything funnier? Six years of HS to chase a D1 dream and your riding the pine in d3.. Ouch.

If your so confident in your comments what team will your committed son play for this summer?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure which top tier teams the above poster thinks are not at Crab Feast - but it is by far the best tournament for recruiting on the calendar. Crush will be there - not sure why they should be afraid to attend - they have never lost to any of the teams attending? Have they ever lost other than Beachlax when Crabs played their 19s? Ask yourself what all the top tier programs have in common (at least the MIAA feeder programs and Edge - all stocked with older kids! Sham!

There are many "top" recruiting tourneys in which there's always a couple of "top" teams missing: Big 4, Crabfeast, Main Event, Terps YGs, Summer Championship, etc. And, shocker, coaches go to many, MANY more than just the "top" tourneys to recruit. And really, aren't we past the "top" teams thing? With Showtime the same weekend, and with many kids on the "top" teams committed, you're going to see changes. Committed events will start to become more interesting to those kids and spots will be filled with other good players. Next several summer/fall seasons are about finding the right school if a kid wants to keep playing in college. And who knows how things might change if the rules change. . .gonna get worse before it gets better if things change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax will make all of you fools shut up this summer. No excuses now.

No doubt. Surely this summer your 2020 team will be chock full of former 2018's that will be a hair away from turning 18, as well as a healthy dose of 17 year olds. They'll get in there car and drive away after their big victory over some on age team... Buckle in, this is par for the course at this tournament.

Thought so... all talk won't back it up
Your obsession with the age of some boys is bizarre. They are in HS now. Cry about ages to a college recruiter and watch him strike your family's name off his list. LOL Long Island.

Mines committed. On age and regularly smokes holdbacks. Clearly many of the holdbacks and double holdbacks will make great 20 or 21 year old freshman back up players in d3. LOL on that MD. Mine will have been working for two years before your flunkie even hits the job market at 24. LOL on that MD. Oh btw check the number of D1 recruits from MD over the last few years... Way down. LOL on that MD. Looks pretty clear, most likely you'll have that 20 year old D3 freshman. Now that's really funny. Double hold back that goes D3, is there anything funnier? Six years of HS to chase a D1 dream and your riding the pine in d3.. Ouch.

If your so confident in your comments what team will your committed son play for this summer?

It was confirmed at 89+2 are not the team playing at Crabfeast it is their #2 squad. We will find them at the NLF in Long Island

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It was confirmed at 89+2 are not the team playing at Crabfeast it is their #2 squad. We will find them at the NLF in Long Island

Probably because there top 5 guys can't make it (or likely are stopping to play because they are committed). That team is nothing with those 5 kids. Team is pretty much done now, which is sad.

They won. Team is winding down and NONE of you from this age group ever beat them. Of course they are breaking up. Why torture themselves all summmer playing so much. They are committed or all on someones radar, now they can have some of their childhood back and enjoy less lax over the summer. Amen.

LOL. Another myopic dad. The kids that stop playing club lax once they commit are making terrible decisions. They will plateau while others soar above them. We are going to see it in college lax with the 2016s now being freshmen. Players take their feet off the gas once they commit, and they will pay a price later.

Sad to see a team "winding down" when they are still HS freshmen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax will make all of you fools shut up this summer. No excuses now.

No doubt. Surely this summer your 2020 team will be chock full of former 2018's that will be a hair away from turning 18, as well as a healthy dose of 17 year olds. They'll get in there car and drive away after their big victory over some on age team... Buckle in, this is par for the course at this tournament.

Thought so... all talk won't back it up
Your obsession with the age of some boys is bizarre. They are in HS now. Cry about ages to a college recruiter and watch him strike your family's name off his list. LOL Long Island.

Mines committed. On age and regularly smokes holdbacks. Clearly many of the holdbacks and double holdbacks will make great 20 or 21 year old freshman back up players in d3. LOL on that MD. Mine will have been working for two years before your flunkie even hits the job market at 24. LOL on that MD. Oh btw check the number of D1 recruits from MD over the last few years... Way down. LOL on that MD. Looks pretty clear, most likely you'll have that 20 year old D3 freshman. Now that's really funny. Double hold back that goes D3, is there anything funnier? Six years of HS to chase a D1 dream and your riding the pine in d3.. Ouch.

If your so confident in your comments what team will your committed son play for this summer?

Done with it all. Playing with his HS team.

It is common for some of the elite teams to lose kids at the HS level after they commit. Some of the kids have been traveling great distances to play for an elite team, once committed no longer necessary. Some of the kids want to play with their local club teams and local friends for a new change of scenery at that point. Nothing wrong with that - they are still kids! It is interesting to watch the HS level club teams and see some of the elite teams take a step back and a lot of the other clubs catching up with growing talent and quality coaching from the non-traditional hot bed areas. Growing the game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They won. Team is winding down and NONE of you from this age group ever beat them. Of course they are breaking up. Why torture themselves all summmer playing so much. They are committed or all on someones radar, now they can have some of their childhood back and enjoy less lax over the summer. Amen.

Yes they won.. but haven't won during the biggest summer of thst age group... they know a loss is coming his summer and are worried

is that true that they are disbanding?

Can someone say LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They won. Team is winding down and NONE of you from this age group ever beat them. Of course they are breaking up. Why torture themselves all summmer playing so much. They are committed or all on someones radar, now they can have some of their childhood back and enjoy less lax over the summer. Amen.

Yes they won.. but haven't won during the biggest summer of thst age group... they know a loss is coming his summer and are worried

History repeating itself! Remember the Turtles? They get to this age group and many others catch up and even pass.

Biggest reason Crush is disbanding is because that coach only cares about his kid. Now that his kid is done, no need to invest any more time in the other kids. That was apparent in Denver that only the coach's kid and 4 more were cared about. Everyone else was/is dispensable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Biggest reason Crush is disbanding is because that coach only cares about his kid. Now that his kid is done, no need to invest any more time in the other kids. That was apparent in Denver that only the coach's kid and 4 more were cared about. Everyone else was/is dispenItable.

What ? D

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They won. Team is winding down and NONE of you from this age group ever beat them. Of course they are breaking up. Why torture themselves all summmer playing so much. They are committed or all on someones radar, now they can have some of their childhood back and enjoy less lax over the summer. Amen.

Yes they won.. but haven't won during the biggest summer of thst age group... they know a loss is coming his summer and are worried

History repeating itself! Remember the Turtles? They get to this age group and many others catch up and even pass.

Yeah not really but hiold that thought to make yourself feel better, why do people believe crush is disbanding, it's the winter and school ball is about to get under way, but everyone can predict what this one team is doing 5 or 6 months from now .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They won. Team is winding down and NONE of you from this age group ever beat them. Of course they are breaking up. Why torture themselves all summmer playing so much. They are committed or all on someones radar, now they can have some of their childhood back and enjoy less lax over the summer. Amen.

Yes they won.. but haven't won during the biggest summer of thst age group... they know a loss is coming his summer and are worried

History repeating itself! Remember the Turtles? They get to this age group and many others catch up and even pass.

Yeah not really but hiold that thought to make yourself feel better, why do people believe crush is disbanding, it's the winter and school ball is about to get under way, but everyone can predict what this one team is doing 5 or 6 months from now .

89+2 are playing in the NLF events june 10-11 and july 15-16 and big4hhh june 17-18. Hardly sounds like they are disbanding. That loss is coming though that a certainty.

Wow, a lot of snowflakes on this site obsessed with 89+2, and whether they are disbanding, what tournaments they're playing in, how much time each player gets, who the coach likes more, etc. It's like you're following the Kardashians. Maybe you have a "cru$h" on them. Seriously, this is not a good look for you. Do your thing, put in some hard work, and then hope you can play at their level someday. But stop obsessing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They won. Team is winding down and NONE of you from this age group ever beat them. Of course they are breaking up. Why torture themselves all summmer playing so much. They are committed or all on someones radar, now they can have some of their childhood back and enjoy less lax over the summer. Amen.

Yes they won.. but haven't won during the biggest summer of thst age group... they know a loss is coming his summer and are worried

History repeating itself! Remember the Turtles? They get to this age group and many others catch up and even pass.

Yeah not really but hiold that thought to make yourself feel better, why do people believe crush is disbanding, it's the winter and school ball is about to get under way, but everyone can predict what this one team is doing 5 or 6 months from now .

89+2 are playing in the NLF events june 10-11 and july 15-16 and big4hhh june 17-18. Hardly sounds like they are disbanding. That loss is coming though that a certainty.

Every team, in every sport, at every level, looses at some point, even the great ones. Why is that even a concern, kind of pathetic waiting around and hoping a team looses

They are not disbanding. Just not playing 9-12 tournaments like they did 5th -8th... Four or so this year. I repeat. They won. Its is no longer about the team... Keep chasin...haters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, a lot of snowflakes on this site obsessed with 89+2, and whether they are disbanding, what tournaments they're playing in, how much time each player gets, who the coach likes more, etc. It's like you're following the Kardashians. Maybe you have a "cru$h" on them. Seriously, this is not a good look for you. Do your thing, put in some hard work, and then hope you can play at their level someday. But stop obsessing.

Nah, Maryland parents just can't get it out of their heads that a LI team has been clearly better no matter what they say or do.......entertaining on so many levels...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are not disbanding. Just not playing 9-12 tournaments like they did 5th -8th... Four or so this year. I repeat. They won. Its is no longer about the team... Keep chasin...haters.

Says the parent of the kid who is still not getting any college looks despite being on the "best team". Colleges already picked who they wanted, looks like your snowflake is out of luck

My little snowflake is just fine, thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My little snowflake is just fine, thank you.

But, it would seem you are admitting he IS a snowflake. Is that really what you wanted to say . . .??

Snowflakes are unique, one of a kind, right? Sounds OK to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]They won. Team is winding down and NONE of you from this age group ever beat them. Of course they are breaking up. Why torture themselves all summmer playing so much. They are committed or all on someones radar, now they can have some of their childhood back and enjoy less lax over the summer. Amen.

Yes they won.. but haven't won during the biggest summer of thst age group... they know a loss is coming his summer and are worried

History repeating itself! Remember the Turtles? They get to this age group and many others catch up and even pass.

Clubs caught up to the Turtles, but not until the summer between Soph-Junior years. And the Turtles were more dominant that this Crush team ever was. By a large margin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]They won. Team is winding down and NONE of you from this age group ever beat them. Of course they are breaking up. Why torture themselves all summmer playing so much. They are committed or all on someones radar, now they can have some of their childhood back and enjoy less lax over the summer. Amen.

Yes they won.. but haven't won during the biggest summer of thst age group... they know a loss is coming his summer and are worried

History repeating itself! Remember the Turtles? They get to this age group and many others catch up and even pass.

Clubs caught up to the Turtles, but not until the summer between Soph-Junior years. And the Turtles were more dominant that this Crush team ever was. By a large margin.

Lets be honest. Clubs didn't "catch up" to the turtles, they got older than the turtles. Same old story...

hey the turtles are seniors in HS now diff an old story

Well sorry hater my son plays one younger 91 team and my older one is done with the process and saw it first hand . Practice last night had full attendance and the talent level is insane. The chemistry they play with is what seperates that team. Wow. Comparing crush and turtles is useless waste of time.

Regardless of Turtles or Crush they are the two best club teams ever. one thing we can all agree on is they are both from LI not Maryland Best players and teams still here

As long as I have coached against CRUSH they have not attended Crab tournament. Regardless everyone's hung up on if they lose and the answer is yes they probably will but to be truthful what they have done for the notoriety of the age group has been impressive. Just enjoy the ride people wins and losses intravel lacrosse are not the most important factors

"My little snowflake is just fine, thank you."

"But, it would seem you are admitting he IS a snowflake. Is that really what you wanted to say . . .??"

Sure. Nothing on this site is real or means anything anyway except for the venom, so in that context, yes Snowflake is just fine. Whatever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as I have coached against CRUSH they have not attended Crab tournament. Regardless everyone's hung up on if they lose and the answer is yes they probably will but to be truthful what they have done for the notoriety of the age group has been impressive. Just enjoy the ride people wins and losses intravel lacrosse are not the most important factors

Ummm, they ALREADY LOST to the Crabs. Yes both teams had holdbacks, so don't start with your excuses, take your loss and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well sorry hater my son plays one younger 91 team and my older one is done with the process and saw it first hand . Practice last night had full attendance and the talent level is insane. The chemistry they play with is what seperates that team. Wow. Comparing crush and turtles is useless waste of time.

So says the father of a player. Enough said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as I have coached against CRUSH they have not attended Crab tournament. Regardless everyone's hung up on if they lose and the answer is yes they probably will but to be truthful what they have done for the notoriety of the age group has been impressive. Just enjoy the ride people wins and losses intravel lacrosse are not the most important factors

Ummm, they ALREADY LOST to the Crabs. Yes both teams had holdbacks, so don't start with your excuses, take your loss and move on.

I hate the Crush but we all know that story and I am from a neighboring Maryland team Teams played a month later and it was an absolute blowout. For your info as well that incident was reason so many people have defected from the Crabs which I am thankful for

Crush will lose to edge this summer!

I guess that legal weed is going around. No one is victorious VS Crush this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as I have coached against CRUSH they have not attended Crab tournament. Regardless everyone's hung up on if they lose and the answer is yes they probably will but to be truthful what they have done for the notoriety of the age group has been impressive. Just enjoy the ride people wins and losses intravel lacrosse are not the most important factors

Ummm, they ALREADY LOST to the Crabs. Yes both teams had holdbacks, so don't start with your excuses, take your loss and move on.

Could only be said by 1)a crab parent or 2) someone who was not there and is clueless. Everyone knows what really happened and what Crabs did that day to win a youth lacrosse game. They then got schooled on television the next month. Crush had the same players - Crabs was not even close. That team is a shell of what it was .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess that legal weed is going around. No one is victorious VS Crush this year.

It will happen sooner rather than later. They're done. One question: will the double holdback be playing with crush or the 8th grade team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As long as I have coached against CRUSH they have not attended Crab tournament. Regardless everyone's hung up on if they lose and the answer is yes they probably will but to be truthful what they have done for the notoriety of the age group has been impressive. Just enjoy the ride people wins and losses intravel lacrosse are not the most important factors

Ummm, they ALREADY LOST to the Crabs. Yes both teams had holdbacks, so don't start with your excuses, take your loss and move on.

Could only be said by 1)a crab parent or 2) someone who was not there and is clueless. Everyone knows what really happened and what Crabs did that day to win a youth lacrosse game. They then got schooled on television the next month. Crush had the same players - Crabs was not even close. That team is a shell of what it was .

Any video of the schooling

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will lose to edge this summer!

I have a tape of crush/edge nov 12/16 Philadelphia good game could have went either way. We edge had several missing pretty sure they did as well. We cross paths at 4HHH June17-18 and NLF July 15-16 our best players have been told to "be there". No excuses if we can't beat them.

Only the warped mind of a Crabs parent would count beachlax as a win. Bring down your 2019s for one game and then get destroyed on national tv when you can't play your manchildren. 19-8 I think. On national TV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will lose to edge this summer!

I have a tape of crush/edge nov 12/16 Philadelphia good game could have went either way. We edge had several missing pretty sure they did as well. We cross paths at 4HHH June17-18 and NLF July 15-16 our best players have been told to "be there". No excuses if we can't beat them.

I think if you can load up with as many 16 and 17 year olds as you can find to play down, you should be in good shape. Same old story "our team caught up" no "your team got older"... Been going on for years... Blah blah blah, Edge taking a page out of the MD, PA, and Mass play book, and taking it to whole other level. I hope your team wins so you can feel good... Too funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will lose to edge this summer!

I have a tape of crush/edge nov 12/16 Philadelphia good game could have went either way. We edge had several missing pretty sure they did as well. We cross paths at 4HHH June17-18 and NLF July 15-16 our best players have been told to "be there". No excuses if we can't beat them.

I think if you can load up with as many 16 and 17 year olds as you can find to play down, you should be in good shape. Same old story "our team caught up" no "your team got older"... Been going on for years... Blah blah blah, Edge taking a page out of the MD, PA, and Mass play book, and taking it to whole other level. I hope your team wins so you can feel good... Too funny.

kids are all turning 16 after may 1/2017. no 17 year olds on that team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess that legal weed is going around. No one is victorious VS Crush this year.

It will happen sooner rather than later. They're done. One question: will the double holdback be playing with crush or the 8th grade team?

Never a fan of Crush, but always respected the talent, but have to say the 8th grade hold back deal was one of the more despicable moves , has to be embarrassing for the kid, mom and dad must be proud.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will lose to edge this summer!

I have a tape of crush/edge nov 12/16 Philadelphia good game could have went either way. We edge had several missing pretty sure they did as well. We cross paths at 4HHH June17-18 and NLF July 15-16 our best players have been told to "be there". No excuses if we can't beat them.

I think if you can load up with as many 16 and 17 year olds as you can find to play down, you should be in good shape. Same old story "our team caught up" no "your team got older"... Been going on for years... Blah blah blah, Edge taking a page out of the MD, PA, and Mass play book, and taking it to whole other level. I hope your team wins so you can feel good... Too funny.

kids are all turning 16 after may 1/2017. no 17 year olds on that team

Do you even get how stupid you are? Most on age 2018's are 16 now!!! Which means most on age 2020's are 14. Not 16. I love it. Who cares. So you'll have a 20 year old freshman in college, nothing new. Of course where I'm from most college freshman are 18 and many are still 17 in the fall of freshman year of college. Go figure.

These kids are in HS. Anyone whining about holdbacks is a total loser.

Turtles were dominant until the end. Given that Crush only cares about 5 kids, wouldn't be surprised to see them surpassed this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will lose to edge this summer!

I have a tape of crush/edge nov 12/16 Philadelphia good game could have went either way. We edge had several missing pretty sure they did as well. We cross paths at 4HHH June17-18 and NLF July 15-16 our best players have been told to "be there". No excuses if we can't beat them.

I think if you can load up with as many 16 and 17 year olds as you can find to play down, you should be in good shape. Same old story "our team caught up" no "your team got older"... Been going on for years... Blah blah blah, Edge taking a page out of the MD, PA, and Mass play book, and taking it to whole other level. I hope your team wins so you can feel good... Too funny.

kids are all turning 16 after may 1/2017. no 17 year olds on that team

Do you even get how stupid you are? Most on age 2018's are 16 now!!! Which means most on age 2020's are 14. Not 16. I love it. Who cares. So you'll have a 20 year old freshman in college, nothing new. Of course where I'm from most college freshman are 18 and many are still 17 in the fall of freshman year of college. Go figure.

2018's are 16 turning 17. 2019's are 15 turning 16 and so on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regardless of Turtles or Crush they are the two best club teams ever. one thing we can all agree on is they are both from LI not Maryland Best players and teams still here

No. Turtles can definitely lay claim to be one of the best ever. But you can't say that about a freshman team. Not enough tournaments/games to say that. If they continue to be excellent for 1-2 more years, then they can say that.

Crabs 2014 is probably the most dominant team ever. They won every single game and tournament in HS. They had 23 commits on that team. Think about it - undefeated in HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will lose to edge this summer!

I have a tape of crush/edge nov 12/16 Philadelphia good game could have went either way. We edge had several missing pretty sure they did as well. We cross paths at 4HHH June17-18 and NLF July 15-16 our best players have been told to "be there". No excuses if we can't beat them.

I think if you can load up with as many 16 and 17 year olds as you can find to play down, you should be in good shape. Same old story "our team caught up" no "your team got older"... Been going on for years... Blah blah blah, Edge taking a page out of the MD, PA, and Mass play book, and taking it to whole other level. I hope your team wins so you can feel good... Too funny.

kids are all turning 16 after may 1/2017. no 17 year olds on that team

Do you even get how stupid you are? Most on age 2018's are 16 now!!! Which means most on age 2020's are 14. Not 16. I love it. Who cares. So you'll have a 20 year old freshman in college, nothing new. Of course where I'm from most college freshman are 18 and many are still 17 in the fall of freshman year of college. Go figure.

Most private school 2020's are 15-16, public 14-15. Cry all you want, but most of those private kids did the extra pre-1st year when they were 6 years old, and way before competitive sports played a part in their lives. Anyone still whining about it in HS needs a new activity. Let's also not forget that the government is not the gold standard for much of anything.

To the poster above - take a look at Crabs 2021 roster and then look at the 22s next year. Hmm.... look familiar?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will lose to edge this summer!

I have a tape of crush/edge nov 12/16 Philadelphia good game could have went either way. We edge had several missing pretty sure they did as well. We cross paths at 4HHH June17-18 and NLF July 15-16 our best players have been told to "be there". No excuses if we can't beat them.

I think if you can load up with as many 16 and 17 year olds as you can find to play down, you should be in good shape. Same old story "our team caught up" no "your team got older"... Been going on for years... Blah blah blah, Edge taking a page out of the MD, PA, and Mass play book, and taking it to whole other level. I hope your team wins so you can feel good... Too funny.

kids are all turning 16 after may 1/2017. no 17 year olds on that team

Do you even get how stupid you are? Most on age 2018's are 16 now!!! Which means most on age 2020's are 14. Not 16. I love it. Who cares. So you'll have a 20 year old freshman in college, nothing new. Of course where I'm from most college freshman are 18 and many are still 17 in the fall of freshman year of college. Go figure.

Most private school 2020's are 15-16, public 14-15. Cry all you want, but most of those private kids did the extra pre-1st year when they were 6 years old, and way before competitive sports played a part in their lives. Anyone still whining about it in HS needs a new activity. Let's also not forget that the government is not the gold standard for much of anything.

Not sure what region of private schools you're talking about, but in the Northeast most, if not all of the 'repeating' goes on in 9th grade. Son goes to a Ct. Prep school (2020) and 75% of the 9th grade are repeating 9th from another school. He's 14.5 with a few 16 year old classmates. Then throw in those 5 or 6 they admit for a Senior PG year, and then when he's 17 he'll have 20 year old classmates. Not whining, It is what it is. Son has never had delusions of playing D1 lacrosse just enjoys the game, and is thrilled that his school has 4 teams. But I do love when people come on here and say "Oh they're in high school now (still haven't played a HS spring game) so age no longer matters....

Besides looney's fogo any other top ones in 2020 age group??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides looney's fogo any other top ones in 2020 age group??

Looneys fogo began to struggle last fall. Was not nearly as dominant. There are about 5 others who will be competitive with one another going forward.

Crush
Express
Tomahawks
Sweetlax
Leg

And a few others who will surprise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides looney's fogo any other top ones in 2020 age group??

Looneys fogo began to struggle last fall. Was not nearly as dominant. There are about 5 others who will be competitive with one another going forward.

Crush
Express
Tomahawks
Sweetlax
Leg

And a few others who will surprise

Who is leg?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These kids are in HS. Anyone whining about holdbacks is a total loser.

Turtles were dominant until the end. Given that Crush only cares about 5 kids, wouldn't be surprised to see them surpassed this summer.

To be fair Turtles in the summer entering 9th grade had two losses then many the following summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides looney's fogo any other top ones in 2020 age group??

Looneys fogo began to struggle last fall. Was not nearly as dominant. There are about 5 others who will be competitive with one another going forward.

Crush
Express
Tomahawks
Sweetlax
Leg

And a few others who will surprise

Who is leg?

Fogo is committed to BU

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides looney's fogo any other top ones in 2020 age group??

Looneys fogo began to struggle last fall. Was not nearly as dominant. There are about 5 others who will be competitive with one another going forward.

Crush
Express
Tomahawks
Sweetlax
Leg

And a few others who will surprise

Who is leg?

Fogo is committed to BU

3 of those top FOGOs are Crush or former Crush players and committed, including the Leg kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides looney's fogo any other top ones in 2020 age group??

Looneys fogo began to struggle last fall. Was not nearly as dominant. There are about 5 others who will be competitive with one another going forward.

Crush
Express
Tomahawks
Sweetlax
Leg

And a few others who will surprise

Who is leg?

Fogo is committed to BU

3 of those top FOGOs are Crush or former Crush players and committed, including the Leg kid.

Except they rarely played and they left right ? Be honest.

Originally Posted by Anonymou

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides looney's fogo any other top ones in 2020 age group??

Looneys fogo began to struggle last fall. Was not nearly as dominant. There are about 5 others who will be competitive with one another going forward.

Crush
Express
Tomahawks
Sweetlax
Leg

And a few others who will surprise

Who is leg?

Fogo is committed to BU

3 of those top FOGOs are Crush or former Crush players and committed, including the Leg kid.

Except they rarely played and they left right ? Be honest.

Doesn't matter now, they are all heading to great schools. Ironically the starter is now in 8th grade and uncommitted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides looney's fogo any other top ones in 2020 age group??

Looneys fogo began to struggle last fall. Was not nearly as dominant. There are about 5 others who will be competitive with one another going forward.

Crush
Express
Tomahawks
Sweetlax
Leg

And a few others who will surprise

oh is this a trick question asking about a 2020 aged fogo and then list the teams you did. How many should be 2019 and how many are now 2021

http://calilax.usboxla.com/[lacrosse]-a-2001/ this looks like a great idea.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

So, Main Event: Crush, Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, Sweetlax

Big 4 (next?): ???

Good way to get the season started. Let's hope organizers put these teams against one another. . .lots of committed players playing against each other, so will be competitive but hopefully we can get away from the b******** and these kids can have some fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

So, Main Event: Crush, Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, Sweetlax

Big 4 (next?): ???

Good way to get the season started. Let's hope organizers put these teams against one another. . .lots of committed players playing against each other, so will be competitive but hopefully we can get away from the b******** and these kids can have some fun.

Crush and Edge battle it out for the title

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

So, Main Event: Crush, Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, Sweetlax

Big 4 (next?): ???

Good way to get the season started. Let's hope organizers put these teams against one another. . .lots of committed players playing against each other, so will be competitive but hopefully we can get away from the b******** and these kids can have some fun.

Crush and Edge battle it out for the title

What teams have beaten Edge in the past year? Didn't Sweetlax beat them last summer? Uh. . .yeah, they did. They are a great team for sure, but there is no title, and there are no bragging rights. Us 2020 parents have to realize. . .most of these kids are committed and playing with/against each other in college. The teams above, and Edge, are all top teams. . .check your head at the door. . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

So, Main Event: Crush, Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, Sweetlax

Big 4 (next?): ???

Good way to get the season started. Let's hope organizers put these teams against one another. . .lots of committed players playing against each other, so will be competitive but hopefully we can get away from the b******** and these kids can have some fun.

Crush and Edge battle it out for the title

What teams have beaten Edge in the past year? Didn't Sweetlax beat them last summer? Uh. . .yeah, they did. They are a great team for sure, but there is no title, and there are no bragging rights. Us 2020 parents have to realize. . .most of these kids are committed and playing with/against each other in college. The teams above, and Edge, are all top teams. . .check your head at the door. . .

So when a team wins the tournament there isn't a champion?? You don't make SENSE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Top teams attending: 1st tier:
Crush (doubt its them attending, too risky)
Crabs
FCA
Looneys
Edge

Second tier:
Laxachusettes
Express
Tomahawks

Missing:
Sweetlax National
WCS

So, Main Event: Crush, Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, Sweetlax

Big 4 (next?): ???

Good way to get the season started. Let's hope organizers put these teams against one another. . .lots of committed players playing against each other, so will be competitive but hopefully we can get away from the b******** and these kids can have some fun.

Crush and Edge battle it out for the title

What teams have beaten Edge in the past year? Didn't Sweetlax beat them last summer? Uh. . .yeah, they did. They are a great team for sure, but there is no title, and there are no bragging rights. Us 2020 parents have to realize. . .most of these kids are committed and playing with/against each other in college. The teams above, and Edge, are all top teams. . .check your head at the door. . .

So when a team wins the tournament there isn't a champion?? You don't make SENSE

wha. . .dude.. .crush>sweetlax=crabs=looneys=FCA=Edge>Express=Laxachusetts=Tomahawks>eeveryone else. . .

Madlax 2020 should be on these lists.

I want some of what you are smoking. Even after the Episcopal holdbacks and other out of town kids they added, the Madlax 2020 team is still average per the Fall Results.

If you are adding teams it should be NXT 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are adding teams it should be NXT 2020.

They have been the improving, not sure they are top 10 yet, need to beat the big boys first.

Madlax 2020 is a mid-level team. This age group is just too deep and competitive for them. They're playing the holdback game with the Episcopal players--but those players just aren't that good. Let me know when they beat an elite 2020 team.

Fall results are meaningless. We are getting stronger while you guys are getting weaker. You'll see this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall results are meaningless. We are getting stronger while you guys are getting weaker. You'll see this summer.

We?? What position do you play son?

Which showcase for a 2020 if had to choose 1 or 2 : STX/3d Rising, Jake Reed/Nike, Brine Warrior or Underarmour? A lot of overlap in the dates and could use some guidance.

By Under Armour do u mean the NLF Elite 120 that should be a very good showcase june 23 at UA Headquarters.

New formatting!

Let's do a top 10!

crush

looneys
crabs
fca
edge
sweetlax
laxachusetts

nxt
express
hawks

How many times do we need to do a top ten?!? Never new information and all the same arguments over and over.

Crabs down 3 notches.

Who is NXT and really they have zero business being anywhere near this "top 10"

So, who would you replace? Crush, Edge, Sweetlax, Crabs, FCA, Looney's. Those are probably the top teams with the top commits. Things will change, of course. Wish someone would put those teams together for a tourney. . .LI v. Baltimore v. Upstate v. Canada. Would be a great time couple of days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is NXT and really they have zero business being anywhere near this "top 10"

haha, well they beat Sweetlax 4 times this Fall

Why isn't Hawks in any of this conversations. They are definitely top 10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is NXT and really they have zero business being anywhere near this "top 10"

haha, well they beat Sweetlax 4 times this Fall

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is NXT and really they have zero business being anywhere near this "top 10"

haha, well they beat Sweetlax 4 times this Fall

Never beat Sweetlax National, which is the team being referred to. And it was more like one time. Remember that in the fall some of the better players are playing football and do not attend fall tournaments as well. NXT is not a top team, but in the 10-20 mix.

I can't wait to hear about all the freshman who will play on the varsity this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't wait to hear about all the freshman who will play on the varsity this year.

So...you can't wait to hear about a bunch of 13-14 year old boys?? Odd

If they are a Freshman in the MIAA - they most likely should be a Sophmore or a Jr.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If they are a Freshman in the MIAA - they most likely should be a Sophmore or a Jr.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't wait to hear about all the freshman who will play on the varsity this year.

So...you can't wait to hear about a bunch of 13-14 year old boys?? Odd

Do the 2020 kids not age on Long Island? how about 14-15 year olds?

Ok here is something to discuss. The first commit last year was to Penn St from Team 89+2. The weekend of Feb 18-20 the 89+2 team played in the Philly NXT Indoor event when they realized they were going into the event short players they invited some kids from EDGE Canada to play (modified Box) with them at least 3 went down. I asked how the 89+2 kids were at Box and one of the parents(whose son has played nationally in Canada) told me the boy who committed first last year was the best "box" player he had ever seen. Now one year in arrears do you think the University has any regrets at all locking up such a diverse talent. In fact they probably lose sleep over the fact that a Notre Dame or an Ivy league school doesn't come knocking on his door.

It seems odd to many of us that you don't think that Freshmen playing Varsity would be interesting. It certainly took up a lot of posts last year and the Chaminade thread always laments their Freshman/JV policy.

Already happening

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Ok here is something to discuss. The first commit last year was to Penn St from Team 89+2. The weekend of Feb 18-20 the 89+2 team played in the Philly NXT Indoor event when they realized they were going into the event short players they invited some kids from EDGE Canada to play (modified Box) with them at least 3 went down. I asked how the 89+2 kids were at Box and one of the parents(whose son has played nationally in Canada) told me the boy who committed first last year was the best "box" player he had ever seen. Now one year in arrears do you think the University has any regrets at all locking up such a diverse talent. In fact they probably lose sleep over the fact that a Notre Dame or an Ivy league school doesn't come knocking on his door. copied from another page

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems odd to many of us that you don't think that Freshmen playing Varsity would be interesting. It certainly took up a lot of posts last year and the Chaminade thread always laments their Freshman/JV policy.

Who is this "US" you are referring to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems odd to many of us that you don't think that Freshmen playing Varsity would be interesting. It certainly took up a lot of posts last year and the Chaminade thread always laments their Freshman/JV policy.

Who is this "US" you are referring to?

"SU" era I dna ehs/eh oS .gnitseretni si ti kniht oot I tub, tsop taht etirw tndid I

That was sofaking we tod did

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If they are a Freshman in the MIAA - they most likely should be a Sophmore or a Jr.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't wait to hear about all the freshman who will play on the varsity this year.

So...you can't wait to hear about a bunch of 13-14 year old boys?? Odd

Do the 2020 kids not age on Long Island? how about 14-15 year olds?

yeah not many freshman are 13yo now, they should have aged up to 14, many are 15 and unfortunately some are 16 (and older than the Sophomores). Much respect to any 13 yo (8th graders who plays varsity and I dont care the power ranking of the team and yeah I know of a few - not just 1- in the past) So yeah, I am interested in who out there will be 13 playing varsity, Kudos to you good luck!!! There is a bond with may of them and yes they give credit to each other as they get older.

Any idea what the deal is with the NLF UA thing in Baltimore? Since we're not NLF, assuming this is an NLF exclusive thing, which I have no problem with, but just curious if us non-NLF folks might gets invites. My son, who is committed, has spoken with fellow committed teammates and other kids on different teams who are committed, and no dice on invites, so thinking it is NLF exclusive. Thoughts? Again, even though this is "free", spending enough on travel anyways so just curious. . .

Ok so the NLF had an event in Tampa at IMG. There was 120 in Tampa. The top 80 2020's from there get invited to Baltimore. There will be 40 "at large spots" You can contact regionally your closest NLF rep send a resume and highlight video hopefully get an invite. probably a tough event to get in as there will be approximately 600 or so 2020's in Baltimore that weekend playing at Crabfeast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the NLF had an event in Tampa at IMG. There was 120 in Tampa. The top 80 2020's from there get invited to Baltimore. There will be 40 "at large spots" You can contact regionally your closest NLF rep send a resume and highlight video hopefully get an invite. probably a tough event to get in as there will be approximately 600 or so 2020's in Baltimore that weekend playing at Crabfeast.

Thanks. Showtime starts that Sunday. Will be interesting to see who's at Showtime considering Crabfeast is going on. Seems like a pretty unnecessary conflict.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the NLF had an event in Tampa at IMG. There was 120 in Tampa. The top 80 2020's from there get invited to Baltimore. There will be 40 "at large spots" You can contact regionally your closest NLF rep send a resume and highlight video hopefully get an invite. probably a tough event to get in as there will be approximately 600 or so 2020's in Baltimore that weekend playing at Crabfeast.

Thanks. Showtime starts that Sunday. Will be interesting to see who's at Showtime considering Crabfeast is going on. Seems like a pretty unnecessary conflict.

Agreed son had to cancel Showtime as team demanded attendance at Crab's, at least he managed to get into the UA/NLF event.

The Crab events always attract a good turnout for recruiting.

Agreed son had to cancel Showtime as team demanded attendance at Crab's, at least he managed to get into the UA/NLF event.

The Crab events always attract a good turnout for recruiting.[/quote]

Your son made a huge mistake. Showtime is the best recruiting event out there. Try and get back into it...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed son had to cancel Showtime as team demanded attendance at Crab's, at least he managed to get into the UA/NLF event.

The Crab events always attract a good turnout for recruiting.

Your son made a huge mistake. Showtime is the best recruiting event out there. Try and get back into it...[/quote]

The coaches will be at CF the first day, then head up to Showtime. I wouldn't go so far to say huge mistake, but I do believe that most clubs are sending A level teams (if they have them, like 89+2) or are going without their Showtime attendees (how many did the team have that they couldn't spare a couple of players or a player?). Would argue that a coach should be trying to get kids into Showtime at all costs. Forcing a kid to choose is just going to make the Showtime guys reconsider invites going forward. But having gone last year, I would agree, it is a huge plus on any player/recruits resume.

How is fl$ 2020 Suffolk's team this year?

So, now that V/JV rosters are being sorted out, did any 9th grade commits make their varsity teams? I would be curios to see what percent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, now that V/JV rosters are being sorted out, did any 9th grade commits make their varsity teams? I would be curios to see what percent

Tryouts start tomorrow. Keep in mind that it is not strictly based on talent. It is based on need. Some programs are just getting to let their senior commits play. Better to play on JV, than to ride the bench on Varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, now that V/JV rosters are being sorted out, did any 9th grade commits make their varsity teams? I would be curios to see what percent

Seems as though the recent trend at MIAA schools is that all committed freshman make varsity.

Fl$ 2020 suffolk team is a bunch of kids that were cut or would never make any of the top clubs.most 7th grade teams would beat them. Why parents would pay for an fl$ team is comical

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed son had to cancel Showtime as team demanded attendance at Crab's, at least he managed to get into the UA/NLF event.

The Crab events always attract a good turnout for recruiting.

Your son made a huge mistake. Showtime is the best recruiting event out there. Try and get back into it...[/quote] Original poster and honestly because our kids are committed to playing their Box season in Ontario we have very limited times we can travel to the USA. Three weekends , so some of our kids are doing Blackcard, NLF/UA and playing in Big4HHH, Crabfeast and NLF Summer Championship in Long Island July 15-16. So yes its unfortunate we have to miss Showcase but it's hard to do everything. We do think our kids would be getting at least seen at these other events. I appreciate the friendly advice.

Oh no. My life is shattered. What will I brag about around the water cooler at work and in the deli in town...my 9th grader didn't make varsity. I've pushed him so hard and missed birthday parties and vacations and other sports for this and the dumb coach with state championships on his resume just doesn't get it. Will change schools and club to fix this. I can control it and get what i want, I know I can. I mean what will the recruiters think--only on Jv as a Freshman???? FML My son is so naive and thinks its ok and will be fun to play with his friends and classmates on jv...the softening of America.

The softening of America is putting kids on Varsity when they either dont belong or you already have to many upper class-men just as good on the team. Just placating to the parents. Same goes with that good Sophomore.

Do wish there were more Freshman teams and the rule would be play at least the 1st 1/4 of the season on your Grade teams. Then get moved up in season if need be. but I know that is not realistic, still a good idea

I am sure that the parents of committed 9th graders can be a little over the top on their assessment of how good their kid is, and if he can really compete with Jumiors and Seniors. I bet their parents can be a real pain in the butt to coaches!

Above post, you nailed it. And its the parents that never played the game or anything athletically at a high level that are the worst offenders--the ultimate living vicariously guys...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure that the parents of committed 9th graders can be a little over the top on their assessment of how good their kid is, and if he can really compete with Jumiors and Seniors. I bet their parents can be a real pain in the butt to coaches!

Quite a few Long Island varsity teams bring up 9th graders that aren't committed. Is this prior comment related to private schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Above post, you nailed it. And its the parents that never played the game or anything athletically at a high level that are the worst offenders--the ultimate living vicariously guys...

Not sure why the lacrosse world feels that freshman should be playing Varsity. Doesn't happen in other sports. At least not much. When we were in school it was unheard of a freshman football player or basketball player playing up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure that the parents of committed 9th graders can be a little over the top on their assessment of how good their kid is, and if he can really compete with Jumiors and Seniors. I bet their parents can be a real pain in the butt to coaches!

Quite a few Long Island varsity teams bring up 9th graders that aren't committed. Is this prior comment related to private schools?

I would assume that most of the parents that are over the top have kids that go to private schools, and they feel like they can add their 2 cents because they are paying. I know this is really true in the area that I live.

Hmm 2x state champ who lost no one decided to give upper class kids a chance to maybe win another. Problem with this? Gutsy call coach but right call. Freshman will all have their chance. But not this year!!! Haha. Everyone (or should I say 2 of you) should relax. The game or program believe it or not are bigger than you... I know crazy thought. Trying teaching your kids correct lessons instead of whining and crying and stamping your feet.... "mommy!!!!!"
Parents egos crushed again kids will be just fine.
Good luck coach. Don't let 2 cry babies who live in a delusional land make you lose one nights sleep. Your playing with house money now enjoy it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Above post, you nailed it. And its the parents that never played the game or anything athletically at a high level that are the worst offenders--the ultimate living vicariously guys...

Not sure why the lacrosse world feels that freshman should be playing Varsity. Doesn't happen in other sports. At least not much. When we were in school it was unheard of a freshman football player or basketball player playing up.

True - it happens rarely, but it is usually only when truly warranted. I played as a freshman part of the season, and I went on to play college football.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmm 2x state champ who lost no one decided to give upper class kids a chance to maybe win another. Problem with this? Gutsy call coach but right call. Freshman will all have their chance. But not this year!!! Haha. Everyone (or should I say 2 of you) should relax. The game or program believe it or not are bigger than you... I know crazy thought. Trying teaching your kids correct lessons instead of whining and crying and stamping your feet.... "mommy!!!!!"
Parents egos crushed again kids will be just fine.
Good luck coach. Don't let 2 cry babies who live in a delusional land make you lose one nights sleep. Your playing with house money now enjoy it

Let's see if the coach goes against what was communicated to the boys and folds under the pressure of the whining parents?

Being the father of a committed freshman whose son has been brought up to play varsity, I find it comical the comments that follow this thread. Its not rocket science. There are teams on Long Island that are powerhouses with committed kids at every grade and incredibly talented players that are not committed ahead of these freshman. For the kids who play on teams that are not as deep they are give the unique opportunity to contribute at the varsity level. For those that attend schools loaded with talent, patience is a virtue and the fact of the matter is that all teams need to win. If the these talented freshman will help their program I'm certain the coach will find ways to get them there to achieve that goal.
We all know who those fathers are being mentioned in these threads and what school it is. Their track record of sidelines antics follows them. Its really too bad their kids have to deal with the fallout. Kudos to the coach for doing his job.
Good luck to all this season. May it be a successful and healthy season for all the boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Being the father of a committed freshman whose son has been brought up to play varsity, I find it comical the comments that follow this thread. Its not rocket science. There are teams on Long Island that are powerhouses with committed kids at every grade and incredibly talented players that are not committed ahead of these freshman. For the kids who play on teams that are not as deep they are give the unique opportunity to contribute at the varsity level. For those that attend schools loaded with talent, patience is a virtue and the fact of the matter is that all teams need to win. If the these talented freshman will help their program I'm certain the coach will find ways to get them there to achieve that goal.
We all know who those fathers are being mentioned in these threads and what school it is. Their track record of sidelines antics follows them. Its really too bad their kids have to deal with the fallout. Kudos to the coach for doing his job.
Good luck to all this season. May it be a successful and healthy season for all the boys.

What school

CSH

Great. Lets move on. Clearly no one cares or wants to hear the parental whining and I'm sure there are more than two disgruntled parents... every town has their jackarses who wear rose colored glasses and are jerks even your pristine CSH it sounds like.

Can we talk about the 2020 summer coming up.. instead of this Whiney bull about highschool BS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we talk about the 2020 summer coming up.. instead of this Whiney bull about highschool BS

Guess you don't want to talk about HS cause your kid will not be an impact player. HS is way more important and exciting than the summer circuit, or should I say circus.

It is more than two parents...and some of them are completely delusional about their kids ability to compete at varsity level. Are some kids on Varsity that wouldn't start on JV, absolutely. But there is no one on the JV that would start on the varsity, so enjoy the playing time and chance to develop afforded to you instead of being buried on the bench...even though Dad (and Mom) can't brag their kid is on varsity. Get a life beyond living vicariously through your kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we talk about the 2020 summer coming up.. instead of this Whiney bull about highschool BS

Guess you don't want to talk about HS cause your kid will not be an impact player. HS is way more important and exciting than the summer circuit, or should I say circus.

Agreed, High School far more exciting than summer travel. Generally speaking, far less parent involvement especially at the Varsity level the kids get coached and if they have the talent they play, period. summer travel has most certainly turned into a circus.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we talk about the 2020 summer coming up.. instead of this Whiney bull about highschool BS

Guess you don't want to talk about HS cause your kid will not be an impact player. HS is way more important and exciting than the summer circuit, or should I say circus.

IMHO this thread is a good place to discuss the summer circuit you want to talk HS go ahead go to the HS link. and get [lacrosse] slapped becuase only a hand full of freshman will be impact players (regardless if committed or not).

This is the 2020 thread....

My kid is a Canadian who will be gladly to play against your kid this summer and teach him how to play lacrosse...

Funny how you won't even say what summer team he plays for......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we talk about the 2020 summer coming up.. instead of this Whiney bull about highschool BS

Guess you don't want to talk about HS cause your kid will not be an impact player. HS is way more important and exciting than the summer circuit, or should I say circus.

IMHO this thread is a good place to discuss the summer circuit you want to talk HS go ahead go to the HS link. and get [lacrosse] slapped becuase only a hand full of freshman will be impact players (regardless if committed or not).

I imagine the big match-ups will occur at Main Event, Big 4, Crabfeast, NLF Summer Champ, and MD Young guns, based upon who's historically gone to these tournaments (except the Main event, but they list the teams coming and there will definitely be some top play). My son chats via social media with a lot of kids on other teams because so many are committed and playing on the same team. Regardless of location, seems like they all know one another. Curious if/how that will impact playing. . .sure they'll play hard but hopefully they can all have some fun (which will make the play better). Will also hopefully make parents act a little bit more responsibly on the sidelines. . .wishful thinking, right?

Couple of months until we see the best of the best for the age group face each other at the big 4

Crush are going to get a wake up call this summer...

fl$ Nassau Team is very good team. Can play with anyone. Already have a few commits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush are going to get a wake up call this summer...

Yea around 7am they'll go to the field and beat your sons [lacrosse] AGAIN

Na... I gaurentee they don't

I keep seeing all of these Tweets coming out about rising sons 2020 players. I thought that team folded? Is that right, or did I missing something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Nassau Team is very good team. Can play with anyone. Already have a few commits.

How many?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Na... I gaurentee they don't

This guy might be right. This is the year all of these PA, Md, and Mass teams get "better".... All the holdbacks and double holdbacks will be in peak form in this grade. Many a former 2018 and 2019's will find there way on to the top 2020 teams from Md, Pa, and Mass this summer. Same ole story... "Our team caught up" No it didn't, it got stocked with hold backs and double holdbacks... Blah blah blah more future D3 20 year old freshmen. Really working out well for UVA, still haven't won an ACC game in years. Same for Hop, they could barely beat UVA. After breaking through last year, UNC's Holdbacks, double holdbacks and 9th grade recruits from a few years ago seem to be $hitting the bed royally...

Anyone know a good FOGO who needs a team to play for this summer.. very strong team looking for one

What region?

Let's get the banter going again for this Age group win the summer coming! Big recruiting summer for these boys

Top 10 pre summer rankings???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's get the banter going again for this Age group win the summer coming! Big recruiting summer for these boys

Top 10 pre summer rankings???

Banter the big recruiting summer was last year for these boys. We get it your kids in a middle of the road team. You want them ranked in top 10 Banter lololol

Well apparently now you can't make contact with coaches until sept 1 of junior year, so everything is changing.. as of April 28... and last year was early recruiting this is actually the prime summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well apparently now you can't make contact with coaches until sept 1 of junior year, so everything is changing.. as of April 28... and last year was early recruiting this is actually the prime summer

Actually, it will be next summer. This summer is meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well apparently now you can't make contact with coaches until sept 1 of junior year, so everything is changing.. as of April 28... and last year was early recruiting this is actually the prime summer

Actually, it will be next summer. This summer is meaningless.

Is Maverick Showtime giving refunds for 2020's and 2021's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well apparently now you can't make contact with coaches until sept 1 of junior year, so everything is changing.. as of April 28... and last year was early recruiting this is actually the prime summer

Actually, it will be next summer. This summer is meaningless.

Is Maverick Showtime giving refunds for 2020's and 2021's?

yes only to you

The end of early recruiting will see the return of age based youth lacrosse from top to bottom and the end of the holdback game. Little Biff from BL and Trig from Gilman will have to wait til their Jr. year to get recruited so the ROI of two extra years of Private school tuition to get a verbal commitment in the 8th grade just isn't there anymore.

What is little Ty Ty Xanders going to write about now?

Coaches can still evaluate and will

Of course they will - but the double holdback 16 year old freshman doesn't look quite so impressive when he is playing as a rising Jr against on age kids who have gone through puberty. The gig is up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The end of early recruiting will see the return of age based youth lacrosse from top to bottom and the end of the holdback game. Little Biff from BL and Trig from Gilman will have to wait til their Jr. year to get recruited so the ROI of two extra years of Private school tuition to get a verbal commitment in the 8th grade just isn't there anymore.

What is little Ty Ty Xanders going to write about now?

You will however see a spike in transfers from one school to another. Most of the transfers will be repeating 10th grade!!!

Not much will change

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not much will change

what are you talking about? Not much will change with a lot of kids transferring? Not much will change with recruiting?

HAHAHA, this is the old 80's ploy.

No interest (at the family college) going into Jr year for little "Drew" Hansome the 7th. Then transfer and repeat 10th grade, get another year under your belt before the start of Jr year. (now a year older) there should be more interest since "now" a Soph playing at Prep.

Although an illusion, everyone knows the second year soph should be a Jr., but if the ends justify the means right.

Just over a month and a half until the big 4! Let's get some banter going here

Top teams at the fall tourney were 89+2, Edge and Sweet lax national. That said, it was fall, so know there were kids missing from other teams. What will be interesting is seeing how all the 2020 teams play considering many of them boys on the top teams are committed and will eventually be teammates. The list below is only meant to get the chatter going. . .will be a great season and will be fun to see how things shake out...NO OFFENSE MEANT:

1: 89+2, Looney's, Crabs, Sweet lax National, Edge, Laxachusetts

2: Tomahawks, Hawks, LIE, NXT, Leading Edge, 4HHH, Sweet lax Upstate

3: Next Level, MadLax, Dukes, Sweet lax Florida, 3d NE, 3d Colorado,

No clue where the various 89+2 teams from Westchester and Maryland fit in. . .haven't seen them at any tourneys. And BBL? They have a 20 commit.

So fill in blanks, move around, etc. That top tier though is pretty solid, IMO.

Leg a sea has a bunch of commits

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top teams at the fall tourney were 89+2, Edge and Sweet lax national. That said, it was fall, so know there were kids missing from other teams. What will be interesting is seeing how all the 2020 teams play considering many of them boys on the top teams are committed and will eventually be teammates. The list below is only meant to get the chatter going. . .will be a great season and will be fun to see how things shake out...NO OFFENSE MEANT:

1: 89+2, Looney's, Crabs, Sweet lax National, Edge, Laxachusetts

2: Tomahawks, Hawks, LIE, NXT, Leading Edge, 4HHH, Sweet lax Upstate

3: Next Level, MadLax, Dukes, Sweet lax Florida, 3d NE, 3d Colorado,

No clue where the various 89+2 teams from Westchester and Maryland fit in. . .haven't seen them at any tourneys. And BBL? They have a 20 commit.

So fill in blanks, move around, etc. That top tier though is pretty solid, IMO.

TAZ is in group 2

Who is Taz?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top teams at the fall tourney were 89+2, Edge and Sweet lax national. That said, it was fall, so know there were kids missing from other teams. What will be interesting is seeing how all the 2020 teams play considering many of them boys on the top teams are committed and will eventually be teammates. The list below is only meant to get the chatter going. . .will be a great season and will be fun to see how things shake out...NO OFFENSE MEANT:

1: 89+2, Looney's, Crabs, Sweet lax National, Edge, Laxachusetts

2: Tomahawks, Hawks, LIE, NXT, Leading Edge, 4HHH, Sweet lax Upstate

3: Next Level, MadLax, Dukes, Sweet lax Florida, 3d NE, 3d Colorado,

No clue where the various 89+2 teams from Westchester and Maryland fit in. . .haven't seen them at any tourneys. And BBL? They have a 20 commit.

So fill in blanks, move around, etc. That top tier though is pretty solid, IMO.

Oh will you please get over yourself already?! I have watched more than one HS team this spring with so-called "studs" from these power house club teams. In most cases the kids are good to very good, but not future superstars. I am also amazed to watch players from no-name teams step up and perform well on competiive HS teams. Stop with all the self-congratulatory BS on here.

Will these new rules affect these teams? Will kids not play as much in summer on the top end teams until closer to the year they can sign letters of intent?
Will 89+2 lose players for summer now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top teams at the fall tourney were 89+2, Edge and Sweet lax national. That said, it was fall, so know there were kids missing from other teams. What will be interesting is seeing how all the 2020 teams play considering many of them boys on the top teams are committed and will eventually be teammates. The list below is only meant to get the chatter going. . .will be a great season and will be fun to see how things shake out...NO OFFENSE MEANT:

1: 89+2, Looney's, Crabs, Sweet lax National, Edge, Laxachusetts

2: Tomahawks, Hawks, LIE, NXT, Leading Edge, 4HHH, Sweet lax Upstate

3: Next Level, MadLax, Dukes, Sweet lax Florida, 3d NE, 3d Colorado,

No clue where the various 89+2 teams from Westchester and Maryland fit in. . .haven't seen them at any tourneys. And BBL? They have a 20 commit.

So fill in blanks, move around, etc. That top tier though is pretty solid, IMO.

Oh will you please get over yourself already?! I have watched more than one HS team this spring with so-called "studs" from these power house club teams. In most cases the kids are good to very good, but not future superstars. I am also amazed to watch players from no-name teams step up and perform well on competiive HS teams. Stop with all the self-congratulatory BS on here.

Says the dad of the average boy

Looking forward to the upcoming season and renewing our rivalries we have 6 players committed before the rule change and everyone one of them is still playing with us this summer. We are at Big4HHH, CRABFEAST and the NLF event in Long Island. We saw the CRABS event has 32 teams with some very strong teams. Hopefully RM will see the teams properly insuring some good quarter final matchups.

Based on this ranking (which I think is flawed) fl$ would be in your 2nd group. Beat most of the teams in both your 2 and 3 groupings-and lost won or two as well.

1: 89+2, Looney's, Crabs, Sweet lax National, Edge, Laxachusetts

2: Tomahawks, Hawks, LIE, NXT, Leading Edge, 4HHH, Sweet lax Upstate

3: Next Level, MadLax, Dukes, Sweet lax Florida, 3d NE, 3d Colorado,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on this ranking (which I think is flawed) fl$ would be in your 2nd group. Beat most of the teams in both your 2 and 3 groupings-and lost won or two as well.

1: 89+2, Looney's, Crabs, Sweet lax National, Edge, Laxachusetts

2: Tomahawks, Hawks, LIE, NXT, Leading Edge, 4HHH, Sweet lax Upstate, FL* (here?)

3: Next Level, MadLax, Dukes, Sweet lax Florida, 3d NE, 3d Colorado,

As i said, feel free to re-arrange. just meant to start the chatter. . .i clearly stated it was a first stab. Interested to hear your, and others, thoughts. I'm basing it upon the Fall Big Four and what i've seen, which isn't everything. Note that it's just tiers, not in any order within the tiers.

Where's FCA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where's FCA?

Based on this ranking (which I think is flawed) FL$ would be in your 2nd group. Beat most of the teams in both your 2 and 3 groupings-and lost won or two as well.

1: 89+2, Looney's, Crabs, Sweet lax National, Edge, Laxachusetts, FCA MD

2: Tomahawks, Hawks, LIE, NXT, Leading Edge, 4HHH, Sweet lax Upstate, FL* (here?)

3: Next Level, MadLax, Dukes, Sweet lax Florida, 3d NE, 3d Colorado,

FCA MD has a top team. I don't know where the other FCAs go. . .not even sure which other ones exist.

What happened to TAZ?

When will schedule
Be created for big 4? I want to see the possible match ups

This age group is not as fun as years past. Teams can't really practice as most are deep into HS ball. I have a 2018 and summer of 9th grade it lost its luster.

This summer will Be epic...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group is not as fun as years past. Teams can't really practice as most are deep into HS ball. I have a 2018 and summer of 9th grade it lost its luster.

Darn kids growing up, ruining all of the fun.

Tz jumped the shark two years ago.
FCA is in MD
MadLAX is dreaming of being good in fantasy land
Predators are lurking
jersey cant gets its act together and field an elite club despite the fact that there are some great HS teams there...
All true stories

Is the big 4 the first big tournament of the year?

Main Event is June 10th. That's a pretty big tourney. Then Big 4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will these new rules affect these teams? Will kids not play as much in summer on the top end teams until closer to the year they can sign letters of intent?
Will 89+2 lose players for summer now?

Ask yourself this question how would it look to the college coaches if kids didn't play

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Has Old has Edge gotten over the winter? Any 17 or 18 year olds playing 2020 this summer? Surely the Crabs will have a few.

Edge doesn't do that get your facts straight before you try to stir the pot.... this discussion has long been settled same age relax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge doesn't do that get your facts straight before you try to stir the pot.... this discussion has long been settled same age relax

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Sounds like someone is scared they're gunna lose. Yes, it's coming!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Has Old has Edge gotten over the winter? Any 17 or 18 year olds playing 2020 this summer? Surely the Crabs will have a few.

Not true for Crabs. Lots of private school kids, mostly late 15's and early 16's. No drivers yet, almost, nice try!

Anyone know of a 2020 club team looking for a GK?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of a 2020 club team looking for a GK?

where?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like someone is scared they're gunna lose. Yes, it's coming!

That's exactly what was said last year, and what happened ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of a 2020 club team looking for a GK?

where?

Preferably a Nassau County-based team.

Crabs should be ashamed of themselves - full of 2019 players and a 2018 and still can't beat Crush.

Funny how the Crabs teams don't seem to get good until the 8th grade - I wonder why....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs should be ashamed of themselves - full of 2019 players and a 2018 and still can't beat Crush.

Funny how the Crabs teams don't seem to get good until the 8th grade - I wonder why....

Umm....They did beat Crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs should be ashamed of themselves - full of 2019 players and a 2018 and still can't beat Crush.

Funny how the Crabs teams don't seem to get good until the 8th grade - I wonder why....

You should focus on why you never seemed good.

Edge has basically been the same group of kids since 2013

HHH
LI Express
Express North
Team 91
Laxachusetts
Madlax
Sweetlax
Upstate LC
3d New England
BBL
Fighting Clams
Mesa
Palm Beach Revolution
West Coast Starz
LB3 National
FCA
PrimeTime
C2C National
Edge Lacrosse
Crabs
Looney's
Blue Star
Eclipse
Leading Edge
thats's the line up in Big 4 and it's a single game elimination event

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like someone is scared they're gunna lose. Yes, it's coming!

That's exactly what was said last year, and what happened ?

they played once last year Crush 9 Edge 8. Was a good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Has Old has Edge gotten over the winter? Any 17 or 18 year olds playing 2020 this summer? Surely the Crabs will have a few.

Not true for Crabs. Lots of private school kids, mostly late 15's and early 16's. No drivers yet, almost, nice try!

Your club's track record indicates otherwise. Bloated Crab will add in a few 2019 and 2018 players that haven't committed yet. It's what you do!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Has Old has Edge gotten over the winter? Any 17 or 18 year olds playing 2020 this summer? Surely the Crabs will have a few.

Not true for Crabs. Lots of private school kids, mostly late 15's and early 16's. No drivers yet, almost, nice try!

Your club's track record indicates otherwise. Bloated Crab will add in a few 2019 and 2018 players that haven't committed yet. It's what you do!

Not sure how/why FCA and Looney's get passes from all of the holdback whiners, as all of those teams are about 80% prefirst and extra year kids. I guess success has many enemies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Has Old has Edge gotten over the winter? Any 17 or 18 year olds playing 2020 this summer? Surely the Crabs will have a few.

Not true for Crabs. Lots of private school kids, mostly late 15's and early 16's. No drivers yet, almost, nice try!

Your club's track record indicates otherwise. Bloated Crab will add in a few 2019 and 2018 players that haven't committed yet. It's what you do!

Not sure how/why FCA and Looney's get passes from all of the holdback whiners, as all of those teams are about 80% prefirst and extra year kids. I guess success has many enemies.

No passes. All competitive MD, Pa, Mass and Canadian teams play down. But MD invented it. Back in the days when all your teams were U-11 U-13 etc. Always played down in a lower bracket at grade based tournaments. Could never win on age, and still can't to this day. Nowadays all your teams are grade based, so you just have older kids. Like you say 80% pre first, hold back or double holdback. Still can't win on age and never will. Same with Under Armour HS teams. Pa and MD teams loaded with 19 and soon to be 20 year olds. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter when they're HS.... Especially when all the 19 and 20 year olds are your team right? Heard that same stupid story over and over. So if it doesn't matter put an age qualifier in. We'll see how much it doesn't matter. Same ole story, actually kind of sad and funny at the same time. No big deal, the number of D1 recruits from MD continues to plummet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Has Old has Edge gotten over the winter? Any 17 or 18 year olds playing 2020 this summer? Surely the Crabs will have a few.

Not true for Crabs. Lots of private school kids, mostly late 15's and early 16's. No drivers yet, almost, nice try!

Your club's track record indicates otherwise. Bloated Crab will add in a few 2019 and 2018 players that haven't committed yet. It's what you do!

Not sure how/why FCA and Looney's get passes from all of the holdback whiners, as all of those teams are about 80% prefirst and extra year kids. I guess success has many enemies.

No passes. All competitive MD, Pa, Mass and Canadian teams play down. But MD invented it. Back in the days when all your teams were U-11 U-13 etc. Always played down in a lower bracket at grade based tournaments. Could never win on age, and still can't to this day. Nowadays all your teams are grade based, so you just have older kids. Like you say 80% pre first, hold back or double holdback. Still can't win on age and never will. Same with Under Armour HS teams. Pa and MD teams loaded with 19 and soon to be 20 year olds. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter when they're HS.... Especially when all the 19 and 20 year olds are your team right? Heard that same stupid story over and over. So if it doesn't matter put an age qualifier in. We'll see how much it doesn't matter. Same ole story, actually kind of sad and funny at the same time. No big deal, the number of D1 recruits from MD continues to plummet.

That's complete speculation on your part. There is no proof. Birth dates are not provided on college rosters so where are you getting your facts?

What is fat Crab gonna do when youth based lacrosse goes age based? Create the NLF, declare himself elite and play amongst his pals - that what. Crabs 2020 has multiple 16 year olds on it and 1 17 year old. Deny it all you want. It's a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Has Old has Edge gotten over the winter? Any 17 or 18 year olds playing 2020 this summer? Surely the Crabs will have a few.

Not true for Crabs. Lots of private school kids, mostly late 15's and early 16's. No drivers yet, almost, nice try!

Your club's track recor% indicates otherwise. Bloated Crab will add in a few 2019 and 2018 players that haven't committed yet. It's what you do!

Not sure how/why FCA and Looney's get passes from all of the holdback whiners, as all of those teams are about 80% prefirst and extra year kids. I guess success has many enemies.

I actually know the ages of one of those teams. 6 of 24 does not equal 80%. BTW equal # of kids born in summer of 02. There are plenty of kids that will play this summer as 16 yr olds and feel free to complain about that if it makes you feel better. But the 17/18 2020 is bs

Main Event teams:

Crabs
Big 4 HHH 2020
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
Express 2020 Wieczorek
Express NORTH 2020-AA
Prime Time
Sweetlax National Team 2020
Crush

Gilman/Crabs middie born 3/2000 - that makes him 17 in the 9th grade. MD state records don't lie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Main Event teams:

Crabs
Big 4 HHH 2020
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
Express 2020 Wieczorek
Express NORTH 2020-AA
Prime Time
Sweetlax National Team 2020
Crush

HHH is horrible, they won't win a game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gilman/Crabs middie born 3/2000 - that makes him 17 in the 9th grade. MD state records don't lie.

How is that possible? My kid is born in Oct 2000 and is finishing 11th grade. No way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gilman/Crabs middie born 3/2000 - that makes him 17 in the 9th grade. MD state records don't lie.

How is that possible? My kid is born in Oct 2000 and is finishing 11th grade. No way.

my son was born 10/02 and is in 9th grade. and always plays on 2019 teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gilman/Crabs middie born 3/2000 - that makes him 17 in the 9th grade. MD state records don't lie.

How is that possible? My kid is born in Oct 2000 and is finishing 11th grade. No way.

Same ole story, that's how it's possible.

Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gilman/Crabs middie born 3/2000 - that makes him 17 in the 9th grade. MD state records don't lie.

How is that possible? My kid is born in Oct 2000 and is finishing 11th grade. No way.

Same ole story, that's how it's possible.

since you've read it on the internet it must be true right?

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

AMEN!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

AMEN!

Especially when he's two years older than the other kids.... If he can't play with them, who can he play with? If he can't standout then, it's time for crying, not whining. But that's why you did it, cause little Buffy too afraid to play with kids his age. Mommy made it all better and put him with the little kids... Those other kids were too big and strong for little Buffy. Hahahahaha. Whine about that helicopter parent. When he finally graduates college at "24" and gets a job, (I mean you find him a job) how will he handle reporting to his new 24 year old boss that's been in the workplace for 3 years already. How will Mommy save him from that? Maybe Mommy can take him to her job and he can hide behind her skirt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

No whining here leg. Just a statement of fact. Sorry about your hold back and how you have corrupted him. Just remember you won't always be there to fix things for him but he'll be looking for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gilman/Crabs middie born 3/2000 - that makes him 17 in the 9th grade. MD state records don't lie.

How is that possible? My kid is born in Oct 2000 and is finishing 11th grade. No way.

my son was born 10/02 and is in 9th grade. and always plays on 2019 teams

So what? Who gives a $hit! Really, go tell someone who gives a rats [lacrosse] about your kid. Stand in front of the mirror and tell yourself, at least that guy cares, no one else does [lacrosse]hat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

AMEN!

Especially when he's two years older than the other kids.... If he can't play with them, who can he play with? If he can't standout then, it's time for crying, not whining. But that's why you did it, cause little Buffy too afraid to play with kids his age. Mommy made it all better and put him with the little kids... Those other kids were too big and strong for little Buffy. Hahahahaha. Whine about that helicopter parent. When he finally graduates college at "24" and gets a job, (I mean you find him a job) how will he handle reporting to his new 24 year old boss that's been in the workplace for 3 years already. How will Mommy save him from that? Maybe Mommy can take him to her job and he can hide behind her skirt.

I wrote the post and my kid is a smaller on age boy. He knew the deal and stepped up....hit the gym/practice. Guess what? 1-2 years older=No problem, bring it on! Stop crying and figure it out!

So what year are birth year are true 2020's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what year are birth year are true 2020's?

Born after 12/1/01 for LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what year are birth year are true 2020's?

8/2001 thru 8/2002

Oh cuz I just looked at the whole edge rosters DOB's and everyone is born in 2001 so they are legit 2020 team then. Even though everyone chirps they aren't

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh cuz I just looked at the whole edge rosters DOB's and everyone is born in 2001 so they are legit 2020 team then. Even though everyone chirps they aren't

Um, no. If they are born before 9/1/01, then they should be 2019. 9/1 is the date that US Lacrosse has adopted for age segmentation, as it aligns with most (not all) school system definitions of school year start.

I would think that most of the country considers 9/1/01-8/31/02 as an "on age" 2020. NY does have a different school cut off though. And, really even kids with August 01 birthdays aren't that bad, but when you are talking about 2000 birth year or early 2001 they would be significantly older for a "typical" 9th grader

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would think that most of the country considers 9/1/01-8/31/02 as an "on age" 2020. NY does have a different school cut off though. And, really even kids with August 01 birthdays aren't that bad, but when you are talking about 2000 birth year or early 2001 they would be significantly older for a "typical" 9th grader

The entire country doesn't consider this at all in HS, which is why the entire country goes by grad year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would think that most of the country considers 9/1/01-8/31/02 as an "on age" 2020. NY does have a different school cut off though. And, really even kids with August 01 birthdays aren't that bad, but when you are talking about 2000 birth year or early 2001 they would be significantly older for a "typical" 9th grader

The entire country doesn't consider this at all in HS, which is why the entire country goes by grad year.

Hey, I thought it was raining outside, just realized it all of your tears. Please start acting like a MAN, please! Embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see edge play team 91 this summer

Has Old has Edge gotten over the winter? Any 17 or 18 year olds playing 2020 this summer? Surely the Crabs will have a few.

Not true for Crabs. Lots of private school kids, mostly late 15's and early 16's. No drivers yet, almost, nice try!

Your club's track record indicates otherwise. Bloated Crab will add in a few 2019 and 2018 players that haven't committed yet. It's what you do!

Not sure how/why FCA and Looney's get passes from all of the holdback whiners, as all of those teams are about 80% prefirst and extra year kids. I guess success has many enemies.

Looneys 2021 was the same deal last year - a team of seventh graders that all looked like they were in high school!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

AMEN!

Especially when he's two years older than the other kids.... If he can't play with them, who can he play with? If he can't standout then, it's time for crying, not whining. But that's why you did it, cause little Buffy too afraid to play with kids his age. Mommy made it all better and put him with the little kids... Those other kids were too big and strong for little Buffy. Hahahahaha. Whine about that helicopter parent. When he finally graduates college at "24" and gets a job, (I mean you find him a job) how will he handle reporting to his new 24 year old boss that's been in the workplace for 3 years already. How will Mommy save him from that? Maybe Mommy can take him to her job and he can hide behind her skirt.

I wrote the post and my kid is a smaller on age boy. He knew the deal and stepped up....hit the gym/practice. Guess what? 1-2 years older=No problem, bring it on! Stop crying and figure it out!

Dear Dummy, mine is committed. Makes fun of holdbacks on the field to their faces, he despises them. Older son already playing in college, will graduate at 21. Both always played up. So slow down with the crying. As a former coach, fan and parent, I am sticking up for the on age kid. Mine chose to play up, a kid shouldn't be forced to play up because some fairy is afraid to have his precious snowflake play against kids his own age. Sorry you can't comprehend that. All other legitimate sports prevent this from happening. Do you get it now?

Is Legacy Taz a set team for sure, do they consider other players? If not how is their B team, Ravage?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

AMEN!

Especially when he's two years older than the other kids.... If he can't play with them, who can he play with? If he can't standout then, it's time for crying, not whining. But that's why you did it, cause little Buffy too afraid to play with kids his age. Mommy made it all better and put him with the little kids... Those other kids were too big and strong for little Buffy. Hahahahaha. Whine about that helicopter parent. When he finally graduates college at "24" and gets a job, (I mean you find him a job) how will he handle reporting to his new 24 year old boss that's been in the workplace for 3 years already. How will Mommy save him from that? Maybe Mommy can take him to her job and he can hide behind her skirt.

I wrote the post and my kid is a smaller on age boy. He knew the deal and stepped up....hit the gym/practice. Guess what? 1-2 years older=No problem, bring it on! Stop crying and figure it out!

Dear Dummy, mine is committed. Makes fun of holdbacks on the field to their faces, he despises them. Older son already playing in college, will graduate at 21. Both always played up. So slow down with the crying. As a former coach, fan and parent, I am sticking up for the on age kid. Mine chose to play up, a kid shouldn't be forced to play up because some fairy is afraid to have his precious snowflake play against kids his own age. Sorry you can't comprehend that. All other legitimate sports prevent this from happening. Do you get it now?

Those who write that there kid is committed are liars. If your tough as nails superstar is committed, tell us all where so we can bask in the light of his greatness, you lying sack of $hit. Do you get that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

AMEN!

Especially when he's two years older than the other kids.... If he can't play with them, who can he play with? If he can't standout then, it's time for crying, not whining. But that's why you did it, cause little Buffy too afraid to play with kids his age. Mommy made it all better and put him with the little kids... Those other kids were too big and strong for little Buffy. Hahahahaha. Whine about that helicopter parent. When he finally graduates college at "24" and gets a job, (I mean you find him a job) how will he handle reporting to his new 24 year old boss that's been in the workplace for 3 years already. How will Mommy save him from that? Maybe Mommy can take him to her job and he can hide behind her skirt.

I wrote the post and my kid is a smaller on age boy. He knew the deal and stepped up....hit the gym/practice. Guess what? 1-2 years older=No problem, bring it on! Stop crying and figure it out!

Dear Dummy, mine is committed. Makes fun of holdbacks on the field to their faces, he despises them. Older son already playing in college, will graduate at 21. Both always played up. So slow down with the crying. As a former coach, fan and parent, I am sticking up for the on age kid. Mine chose to play up, a kid shouldn't be forced to play up because some fairy is afraid to have his precious snowflake play against kids his own age. Sorry you can't comprehend that. All other legitimate sports prevent this from happening. Do you get it now?

Those who write that there kid is committed are liars. If your tough as nails superstar is committed, tell us all where so we can bask in the light of his greatness, you lying sack of $hit. Do you get that?

I got it, you confirmed you're a dummy. Ok, I'll out my son to put you in your small place. What a sick nut. I'm advocating for kids!!! Hello nut job, anyone home? Your jealousy is clouding your thoughts. Oh, and it's "their" kid, not "there". DUMMY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Legacy Taz a set team for sure, do they consider other players? If not how is their B team, Ravage?

Historically those were always two good teams. Cue the "you're wrong, they suck" comments in 3...2...1 Go!

yeah the Taz team is a half committed team ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who cares when your kid was born? Can he play? That's all anyone cares about. The rest is whining

AMEN!

Especially when he's two years older than the other kids.... If he can't play with them, who can he play with? If he can't standout then, it's time for crying, not whining. But that's why you did it, cause little Buffy too afraid to play with kids his age. Mommy made it all better and put him with the little kids... Those other kids were too big and strong for little Buffy. Hahahahaha. Whine about that helicopter parent. When he finally graduates college at "24" and gets a job, (I mean you find him a job) how will he handle reporting to his new 24 year old boss that's been in the workplace for 3 years already. How will Mommy save him from that? Maybe Mommy can take him to her job and he can hide behind her skirt.

I wrote the post and my kid is a smaller on age boy. He knew the deal and stepped up....hit the gym/practice. Guess what? 1-2 years older=No problem, bring it on! Stop crying and figure it out!

Dear Dummy, mine is committed. Makes fun of holdbacks on the field to their faces, he despises them. Older son already playing in college, will graduate at 21. Both always played up. So slow down with the crying. As a former coach, fan and parent, I am sticking up for the on age kid. Mine chose to play up, a kid shouldn't be forced to play up because some fairy is afraid to have his precious snowflake play against kids his own age. Sorry you can't comprehend that. All other legitimate sports prevent this from happening. Do you get it now?

Those who write that there kid is committed are liars. If your tough as nails superstar is committed, tell us all where so we can bask in the light of his greatness, you lying sack of $hit. Do you get that?

I got it, you confirmed you're a dummy. Ok, I'll out my son to put you in your small place. What a sick nut. I'm advocating for kids!!! Hello nut job, anyone home? Your jealousy is clouding your thoughts. Oh, and it's "their" kid, not "there". DUMMY

Liar, liar pants on fire. The only one committed is you, to being a liar! Don't worry, your kid will out himself soon enough

Team 91 2020 had a personal twitter. How come taken down? Team changing spallina not running it anymore?

How is madlax 2020??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of a 2020 club team looking for a GK?

where?

Preferably a Nassau County-based team.

I'll take the lack of answers as a "No"?

MAD lax is decent, but nothing special.

The EDGE '20 team is very good, but they are really a '19 team and that is where they should be playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of a 2020 club team looking for a GK?

where?

Preferably a Nassau County-based team.

I'll take the lack of answers as a "No"?

Probably Express as they have 4 teams in the age group. The most recent team is coached by Moran but always seems short players. Not sure if they have more than 1 goalie. Contact Mike Chanachuk.

Who is talking about edge the person asked about madlax?? Why r u referring to edge?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MAD lax is decent, but nothing special.

The EDGE '20 team is very good, but they are really a '19 team and that is where they should be playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MAD lax is decent, but nothing special.

The EDGE '20 team is very good, but they are really a '19 team and that is where they should be playing.

Also seems like you are scared for your son to play against edge to bring them up out of no where? Does your sons team get to play them this summer? And you are starting the excuses?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 2020 had a personal twitter. How come taken down? Team changing spallina not running it anymore?

Yes, 2020 91 Crush has disbanded

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of a 2020 club team looking for a GK?

where?

Preferably a Nassau County-based team.

I'll take the lack of answers as a "No"?

Probably Express as they have 4 teams in the age group. The most recent team is coached by Moran but always seems short players. Not sure if they have more than 1 goalie. Contact Mike Chanachuk.

Express has 4 teams for 2020??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 2020 had a personal twitter. How come taken down? Team changing spallina not running it anymore?

Yes, 2020 91 Crush has disbanded

Not surprising as the head coach's kid is probably playing with his grade now.

That is absolutely not true. . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is absolutely not true. . . .

How hard is it for users to use the right button to post so that others know which of the many convos going on that you are responding to . . .??1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 2020 had a personal twitter. How come taken down? Team changing spallina not running it anymore?

Yes, 2020 91 Crush has disbanded

Not surprising as the head coach's kid is probably playing with his grade now.

Any truth to this?

Man you guys are bored

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 2020 had a personal twitter. How come taken down? Team changing spallina not running it anymore?

Yes, 2020 91 Crush has disbanded

Not surprising as the head coach's kid is probably playing with his grade now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 2020 had a personal twitter. How come taken down? Team changing spallina not running it anymore?

Yes, 2020 91 Crush has disbanded

Not surprising as the head coach's kid is probably playing with his grade now.

Is this even true?

Why do I keep seeing tweets about the 2020 sons, are they back together? I thought the were a thing of the past

Edge is very good. Mostly older kids masquerading as younger kids. Nice matchup for the MD teams (FCA, Crabs) stacked with holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is very good. Mostly older kids masquerading as younger kids. Nice matchup for the MD teams (FCA, Crabs) stacked with holdbacks.

Stupid comments again from the peanut gallery

Anyone know when the big 4 schedule will be released?

No excuses. We've played Edge very close in our two games (both two goal losses (fl$)). no excuses. Your own website advertised '19/20 team...no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuses. We've played Edge very close in our two games (both two goal losses (fl$)). no excuses. Your own website advertised '19/20 team...no?

Who is we that played them close? I just checked the wentsite and it says 2020 no mention of 2019/2020 they have a 2019 team

EDGE 2020 (01)

They cleaned up the language as to who was welcome to try out but the fact that they call themselves an 01 team says it all.

At least there is no pretending. you announce straight up what you are. Question though if US lacrosse rules were enforced for 5/10 cutoff and new proposed for 9/1 cutoff how many kids would you lose? We'd lose 1 kid. Not looking for an award, just saying to some degree you are comparing apples to oranges when you mention edge and some other teams--maybe that is why we are not in the top 10 conversation...so be it.

meant 5/01 9/01 birthday cutoff. sorry if i confused anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is very good. Mostly older kids masquerading as younger kids. Nice matchup for the MD teams (FCA, Crabs) stacked with holdbacks.

Stupid comments again from the peanut gallery

The comments from the peanut gallery are from someone who has seen the birthdates of the kids on Crabs and FCA. Sorry pal - stacked with reclassed kids. Own it.

No one cares about this age anymore. Most of the teams haven't even had a practice. This is all the dads being helicopters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is very good. Mostly older kids masquerading as younger kids. Nice matchup for the MD teams (FCA, Crabs) stacked with holdbacks.

Stupid comments again from the peanut gallery

The comments from the peanut gallery are from someone who has seen the birthdates of the kids on Crabs and FCA. Sorry pal - stacked with reclassed kids. Own it.

Own the fact that if you are still stuck on reclass argument in HS, you are just that, stuck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one cares about this age anymore. Most of the teams haven't even had a practice. This is all the dads being helicopters

Seriously, not playing for a t-shirt anymore. No one cares which team wins. It's all about the kids getting good looks for recruiting. Do you really think Breschi or Petro care if you kid's team won the tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one cares about this age anymore. Most of the teams haven't even had a practice. This is all the dads being helicopters

Seriously, not playing for a t-shirt anymore. No one cares which team wins. It's all about the kids getting good looks for recruiting. Do you really think Breschi or Petro care if you kid's team won the tournament?

Petro will be fired before any of these boys get there!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one cares about this age anymore. Most of the teams haven't even had a practice. This is all the dads being helicopters

Seriously, not playing for a t-shirt anymore. No one cares which team wins. It's all about the kids getting good looks for recruiting. Do you really think Breschi or Petro care if you kid's team won the tournament?

Yeah its all about the looks as you said, but sucks when a kid your sons age is getting attention because he is playing 1 or 2 years down. HE SHOULD BE DOING BETTER HE SHOULD ALSO BE PLAYING UP!!!!

Now i also hate the kids plaign my sons grade and are 2 years older. Sure my kid is staying with them but there time should have come and gone, the only way you look good is by playing down pathetic.

and age never goes away, i am disgusted at the 22/23 year old srs or 19/20 freshman.

I agree its not about the wins it is how you look playing and how smart you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one cares about this age anymore. Most of the teams haven't even had a practice. This is all the dads being helicopters

Seriously, not playing for a t-shirt anymore. No one cares which team wins. It's all about the kids getting good looks for recruiting. Do you really think Breschi or Petro care if you kid's team won the tournament?

Yeah its all about the looks as you said, but sucks when a kid your sons age is getting attention because he is playing 1 or 2 years down. HE SHOULD BE DOING BETTER HE SHOULD ALSO BE PLAYING UP!!!!

Now i also hate the kids plaign my sons grade and are 2 years older. Sure my kid is staying with them but there time should have come and gone, the only way you look good is by playing down pathetic.

and age never goes away, i am disgusted at the 22/23 year old srs or 19/20 freshman.

I agree its not about the wins it is how you look playing and how smart you are.

Stop complaining about playing down. The boys are in HS and, with very few exceptions, they have hit puberty. Some may grow a few more inches and all will certainly gain many more pounds but they should be able to handle themselves with a handful of kids that are a couple years older. With the exception of the elite catholic schools and dominant public HS, your kid should be playing varsity at this age. If he is not then playing against a few kids a couple years older than him in club lacrosse shouldn't be your primary concern. Also, unless your kid is committed, chill out and enjoy the next couple of years of lacrosse. By the time these kids play their junior year and possibly even sophomore year there will be parity and your sons hard work and effort will pay off. Look at playing against older kids as an opportunity to gain experience so when he goes to a prospect camp and plays against kids his age he can out-perform.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one cares about this age anymore. Most of the teams haven't even had a practice. This is all the dads being helicopters

Seriously, not playing for a t-shirt anymore. No one cares which team wins. It's all about the kids getting good looks for recruiting. Do you really think Breschi or Petro care if you kid's team won the tournament?

Yeah its all about the looks as you said, but sucks when a kid your sons age is getting attention because he is playing 1 or 2 years down. HE SHOULD BE DOING BETTER HE SHOULD ALSO BE PLAYING UP!!!!

Now i also hate the kids plaign my sons grade and are 2 years older. Sure my kid is staying with them but there time should have come and gone, the only way you look good is by playing down pathetic.

and age never goes away, i am disgusted at the 22/23 year old srs or 19/20 freshman.

I agree its not about the wins it is how you look playing and how smart you are.

Stop complaining about playing down. The boys are in HS and, with very few exceptions, they have hit puberty. Some may grow a few more inches and all will certainly gain many more pounds but they should be able to handle themselves with a handful of kids that are a couple years older. With the exception of the elite catholic schools and dominant public HS, your kid should be playing varsity at this age. If he is not then playing against a few kids a couple years older than him in club lacrosse shouldn't be your primary concern. Also, unless your kid is committed, chill out and enjoy the next couple of years of lacrosse. By the time these kids play their junior year and possibly even sophomore year there will be parity and your sons hard work and effort will pay off. Look at playing against older kids as an opportunity to gain experience so when he goes to a prospect camp and plays against kids his age he can out-perform.

Freshmen should be playing varsity?? Unless your public school's program is dogshit, that is the dumbest thing I have read on the internet today (but, the day is still very young, so there is hope for you!).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one cares about this age anymore. Most of the teams haven't even had a practice. This is all the dads being helicopters

Seriously, not playing for a t-shirt anymore. No one cares which team wins. It's all about the kids getting good looks for recruiting. Do you really think Breschi or Petro care if you kid's team won the tournament?

Yeah its all about the looks as you said, but sucks when a kid your sons age is getting attention because he is playing 1 or 2 years down. HE SHOULD BE DOING BETTER HE SHOULD ALSO BE PLAYING UP!!!!

Now i also hate the kids plaign my sons grade and are 2 years older. Sure my kid is staying with them but there time should have come and gone, the only way you look good is by playing down pathetic.

and age never goes away, i am disgusted at the 22/23 year old srs or 19/20 freshman.

I agree its not about the wins it is how you look playing and how smart you are.

Stop complaining about playing down. The boys are in HS and, with very few exceptions, they have hit puberty. Some may grow a few more inches and all will certainly gain many more pounds but they should be able to handle themselves with a handful of kids that are a couple years older. With the exception of the elite catholic schools and dominant public HS, your kid should be playing varsity at this age. If he is not then playing against a few kids a couple years older than him in club lacrosse shouldn't be your primary concern. Also, unless your kid is committed, chill out and enjoy the next couple of years of lacrosse. By the time these kids play their junior year and possibly even sophomore year there will be parity and your sons hard work and effort will pay off. Look at playing against older kids as an opportunity to gain experience so when he goes to a prospect camp and plays against kids his age he can out-perform.

Freshmen should be playing varsity?? Unless your public school's program is dogshit, that is the dumbest thing I have read on the internet today (but, the day is still very young, so there is hope for you!).

Good catch. That was a test to see if everyone was paying attention. Point being, stop complaining about playing against kids a couple years older.

I get a good chuckle when I hear about the "freshman" at Calvert Hall, BL, McDonough, etc. that are on varsity. They may be in the 9th grade - but they are 16 and 17 years old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I get a good chuckle when I hear about the "freshman" at Calvert Hall, BL, McDonough, etc. that are on varsity. They may be in the 9th grade - but they are 16 and 17 years old.

No 17 year old freshman. No kids outside of MIAA criteria, which would exclude kids 19 at start of senior year.

Yeah its all about the looks as you said, but sucks when a kid your sons age is getting attention because he is playing 1 or 2 years down. HE SHOULD BE DOING BETTER HE SHOULD ALSO BE PLAYING UP!!!!

Now i also hate the kids plaign my sons grade and are 2 years older. Sure my kid is staying with them but there time should have come and gone, the only way you look good is by playing down pathetic.

and age never goes away, i am disgusted at the 22/23 year old srs or 19/20 freshman.

I agree its not about the wins it is how you look playing and how smart you are. [/quote]

There are no 19/20 year old freshman. There are no triple or quadruple holdbacks. You are fake news.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 2020 had a personal twitter. How come taken down? Team changing spallina not running it anymore?

Yes, 2020 91 Crush has disbanded

Not surprising as the head coach's kid is probably playing with his grade now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 2020 had a personal twitter. How come taken down? Team changing spallina not running it anymore?

Yes, 2020 91 Crush has disbanded

Not surprising as the head coach's kid is probably playing with his grade now.

Is this even true?

Not sure if this is true but many if not all are a big part of their HS programs and that needs to come first now. So it makes sense but for them to cutback a bit, but i dont see them disbanding, they are friends and I can see still doing a select few tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I get a good chuckle when I hear about the "freshman" at Calvert Hall, BL, McDonough, etc. that are on varsity. They may be in the 9th grade - but they are 16 and 17 years old.

What's the chuckle for, two of the three you listed have prefirst in their lower school curriculum, so 16 for late semester freshman would be fairly commonplace. Also, very common for transfers that didn't do prefirst to come in laterally and repeat a middle school grade, so again, commonplace, chuckle. 17 is just bad math on your part, chuckle. No 17 year old freshman at the schools you list, chuckle. If that were the case, would not be eligible for MIAA play Senior year, and nobody is in that boat across the MIAA, chuckle.

Having your child repeat 8th grade in order to improve their standing on the lacrosse field is pathetic. Common practice within the MIAA and Baltimore club scene. Birthdates for the majority of the players in the MIAA have been made public at one time or another. Yes - there are 17 year old Freshman in the MIAA. Maryland state records don't lie. Keep living the fantasy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah its all about the looks as you said, but sucks when a kid your sons age is getting attention because he is playing 1 or 2 years down. HE SHOULD BE DOING BETTER HE SHOULD ALSO BE PLAYING UP!!!!

Now i also hate the kids plaign my sons grade and are 2 years older. Sure my kid is staying with them but there time should have come and gone, the only way you look good is by playing down pathetic.

and age never goes away, i am disgusted at the 22/23 year old srs or 19/20 freshman.

I agree its not about the wins it is how you look playing and how smart you are.

There are no 19/20 year old freshman. There are no triple or quadruple holdbacks. You are fake news. [/quote]

maybe not right now, but there will be

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having your child repeat 8th grade in order to improve their standing on the lacrosse field is pathetic. Common practice within the MIAA and Baltimore club scene. Birthdates for the majority of the players in the MIAA have been made public at one time or another. Yes - there are 17 year old Freshman in the MIAA. Maryland state records don't lie. Keep living the fantasy.

where can I see these records?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having your child repeat 8th grade in order to improve their standing on the lacrosse field is pathetic. Common practice within the MIAA and Baltimore club scene. Birthdates for the majority of the players in the MIAA have been made public at one time or another. Yes - there are 17 year old Freshman in the MIAA. Maryland state records don't lie. Keep living the fantasy.

where can I see these records?

Currently NO MIAA players that will be ineligible Senior year, means NO 17 year old Freshman. There are no 17 year old Freshman. Can't you just be happy complaining about 16 year olds. Why make stuff up!

Remember how f'd up the tournaments used to be at U15, U13, etc.. with all the A's, B's, C's divisions? Those were the days, so much to complain about when you lost, it was just so easy. Now we have the holdback argument, which is so boring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having your child repeat 8th grade in order to improve their standing on the lacrosse field is pathetic. Common practice within the MIAA and Baltimore club scene. Birthdates for the majority of the players in the MIAA have been made public at one time or another. Yes - there are 17 year old Freshman in the MIAA. Maryland state records don't lie. Keep living the fantasy.

I don't know of any that turned 17 during the school year but there are many 16 year old freshman. A few good players did pre-first but many of them re-classed in Middle school. Gilman, StPauls and particularly BL do this regularly with students who are transferring in. A few pretty good players at a Howard county club 2020 team transferred into BL and all of the sudden they are 2021 and playing for crabs. St Pauls kid 2019 other club now 2020 at BL and FCA. Happens all over.

Gilman midfielder born in March of 2000

Gilman has two boys, in the entirety of the lacrosse program and both are rising sophomores, that reclassed. Only one will turn 19 during his senior year.

Great line/schedule up for crabs tournament. Glad up so early! Big 4 is a week earlier and no schedule to be seen. Excited for this one who will win the crabs tournament with the schedule the way it's laid out

"Reclassed" you people are pathetic. You reclassed a kid, which in plain English means you are a cheater! "My son reclassed, so now he's older and faster than the other kids. It's a miracle."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gilman midfielder born in March of 2000

'01, dumbbell. Or he wouldn't be able to play Senior year, which is not the case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Reclassed" you people are pathetic. You reclassed a kid, which in plain English means you are a cheater! "My son reclassed, so now he's older and faster than the other kids. It's a miracle."

Or, if it benefits your kid academically and don't do it, you could just be a cheapskate, in plain English.

Getting into college, especially inclusive of playing sports, is all business. There is no fair/unfair, just compliant/non-compliant. Birth years are for candles on the cake and tombstones at this point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gilman midfielder born in March of 2000

'01, dumbbell. Or he wouldn't be able to play Senior year, which is not the case.

Nope. Sorry to bust your bubble but it is 2000. It will be his problem once senior year rolls around. Right Billy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Getting into college, especially inclusive of playing sports, is all business. There is no fair/unfair, just compliant/non-compliant. Birth years are for candles on the cake and tombstones at this point.

No it is cheating, you cant hack it or have issues in school - that is what a PG year was for not masquerading a problem be it athletic or academic in MS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Getting into college, especially inclusive of playing sports, is all business. There is no fair/unfair, just compliant/non-compliant. Birth years are for candles on the cake and tombstones at this point.

No it is cheating, you cant hack it or have issues in school - that is what a PG year was for not masquerading a problem be it athletic or academic in MS.

No, you are calling it cheating, because you want it to be cheating. It is not cheating when done in compliance with all rules and regulations, so it is actually and literally the opposite of cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gilman midfielder born in March of 2000

'01, dumbbell. Or he wouldn't be able to play Senior year, which is not the case.

Nope. Sorry to bust your bubble but it is 2000. It will be his problem once senior year rolls around. Right Billy?

Calling out minors by name anonymously on a public forum, your family would be proud. Let us know if you want to have some pride, or just enjoy being a hiding little butthurt loser. And no, will not be ineligible Senior year, so we'll just let you figure out your own math.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Getting into college, especially inclusive of playing sports, is all business. There is no fair/unfair, just compliant/non-compliant. Birth years are for candles on the cake and tombstones at this point.

No it is cheating, you cant hack it or have issues in school - that is what a PG year was for not masquerading a problem be it athletic or academic in MS.

Uh, no. Since when would you struggle through HS academically planning to do a PG year all the way through? I get you may plan to do a PG year later in HS, but to plan that out ahead during MS? wth are you even talking about!? Kids repeat or transfer in laterally to private all of the time for exactly this reason. ALL of the time. You don't have to agree, but your argument is invalid. Perhaps you could have used that extra year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Getting into college, especially inclusive of playing sports, is all business. There is no fair/unfair, just compliant/non-compliant. Birth years are for candles on the cake and tombstones at this point.

No it is cheating, you cant hack it or have issues in school - that is what a PG year was for not masquerading a problem be it athletic or academic in MS.

You just described not cheating

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Getting into college, especially inclusive of playing sports, is all business. There is no fair/unfair, just compliant/non-compliant. Birth years are for candles on the cake and tombstones at this point.

No it is cheating, you cant hack it or have issues in school - that is what a PG year was for not masquerading a problem be it athletic or academic in MS.

You are the embodiment of cheating

This is hilarious. They're on the NLF Under Armor schedule.

How was "Run With The Best" showcase today?

Looking at coaches for ua command tryouts. Let's see how many st. Anthony/ express kids they take. Just a repeat of last year.

Where is the big 4 schedule!! Less than two weeks away! Come on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Getting into college, especially inclusive of playing sports, is all business. There is no fair/unfair, just compliant/non-compliant. Birth years are for candles on the cake and tombstones at this point.

No it is cheating, you cant hack it or have issues in school - that is what a PG year was for not masquerading a problem be it athletic or academic in MS.

No, you are calling it cheating, because you want it to be cheating. It is not cheating when done in compliance with all rules and regulations, so it is actually and literally the opposite of cheating.

The problem is that it is not done in compliance. You cant just hold back because you want to. They way it is done is cheating the system. How does a kid get into a college who got left back the year earlier; how is that compliance?

5/10 we would lose 2 ...9/1 we would lose 15 all the kids are born May-Dec 2001 as this team was originally set up for World Series in 2015. signed Edge

Right, so for the most part your team is one year older than the typical '20 team where most bdates are from 9/01 through 9/02. Not throwing a dart at you, I understand that that is the birthdate cutoff established as legal (for some bizzare reason) for us lacrosse events--5/1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Getting into college, especially inclusive of playing sports, is all business. There is no fair/unfair, just compliant/non-compliant. Birth years are for candles on the cake and tombstones at this point.

No it is cheating, you cant hack it or have issues in school - that is what a PG year was for not masquerading a problem be it athletic or academic in MS.

No, you are calling it cheating, because you want it to be cheating. It is not cheating when done in compliance with all rules and regulations, so it is actually and literally the opposite of cheating.

The problem is that it is not done in compliance. You cant just hold back because you want to. They way it is done is cheating the system. How does a kid get into a college who got left back the year earlier; how is that compliance?

You are rambling on in hypothetical nonsense. Holding back, doing pre-first is not cheating; you just don't like the concept. On top of that, you are just a babbling weirdo, and I think you don't even know what you are trying to really say. Even if you did, it's none of your business what some other family does anyway. The real problem is that you squeezed through the system unnoticed, when really you would have been a perfect candidate to hold back.

Shut up about birth years, shut up about holdbacks, shut about top 10's. Nobody except the idiot parents, which take up about 75% of the sidelines, care about any of this hogwash anymore. Getting your kid out of high school and into college successfully is all that matters right now. Getting grades, getting stronger/better, getting seen, getting good coaching, and staying healthy is all you need to worry about. Scouts don't give a bag of monkey turds about how you ended up in 10th grade, and could care even less whether or not Edge, or Crabs, or LIE, or Looney's, or whoever, win all of their games. Be at the right events, do the right things, and have your crap together at school and home, and good things will happen at the appropriate times. Oh, and try to have some frickin fun along the way, if that is even possible anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shut up about birth years, shut up about holdbacks, shut about top 10's. Nobody except the idiot parents, which take up about 75% of the sidelines, care about any of this hogwash anymore. Getting your kid out of high school and into college successfully is all that matters right now. Getting grades, getting stronger/better, getting seen, getting good coaching, and staying healthy is all you need to worry about. Scouts don't give a bag of monkey turds about how you ended up in 10th grade, and could care even less whether or not Edge, or Crabs, or LIE, or Looney's, or whoever, win all of their games. Be at the right events, do the right things, and have your crap together at school and home, and good things will happen at the appropriate times. Oh, and try to have some frickin fun along the way, if that is even possible anymore.

Bless the person who stated the above. No truer words have been written. I hope we can all move on from the discussion of holdbacks, re-classing, too old/to young, balls dropping, etc. Play hard, get good grades and hopefully everything will take care of itself.

Fun? Unheard of in today's youth/HS sports. Its a job, with a very small paycheck for most at the end of the day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shut up about birth years, shut up about holdbacks, shut about top 10's. Nobody except the idiot parents, which take up about 75% of the sidelines, care about any of this hogwash anymore. Getting your kid out of high school and into college successfully is all that matters right now. Getting grades, getting stronger/better, getting seen, getting good coaching, and staying healthy is all you need to worry about. Scouts don't give a bag of monkey turds about how you ended up in 10th grade, and could care even less whether or not Edge, or Crabs, or LIE, or Looney's, or whoever, win all of their games. Be at the right events, do the right things, and have your crap together at school and home, and good things will happen at the appropriate times. Oh, and try to have some frickin fun along the way, if that is even possible anymore.

Bless the person who stated the above. No truer words have been written. I hope we can all move on from the discussion of holdbacks, re-classing, too old/to young, balls dropping, etc. Play hard, get good grades and hopefully everything will take care of itself.

Forgot about the part to STOP CHEATING to try to look better. smoke and mirrors don't last that long!

Think new rules have changed things......not sure about this whole showcase thing for 2020s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shut up about birth years, shut up about holdbacks, shut about top 10's. Nobody except the idiot parents, which take up about 75% of the sidelines, care about any of this hogwash anymore. Getting your kid out of high school and into college successfully is all that matters right now. Getting grades, getting stronger/better, getting seen, getting good coaching, and staying healthy is all you need to worry about. Scouts don't give a bag of monkey turds about how you ended up in 10th grade, and could care even less whether or not Edge, or Crabs, or LIE, or Looney's, or whoever, win all of their games. Be at the right events, do the right things, and have your crap together at school and home, and good things will happen at the appropriate times. Oh, and try to have some frickin fun along the way, if that is even possible anymore.

Bless the person who stated the above. No truer words have been written. I hope we can all move on from the discussion of holdbacks, re-classing, too old/to young, balls dropping, etc. Play hard, get good grades and hopefully everything will take care of itself.

Forgot about the part to STOP CHEATING to try to look better. smoke and mirrors don't last that long!

Right, sorry, shut up about the fake cheating agenda too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shut up about birth years, shut up about holdbacks, shut about top 10's. Nobody except the idiot parents, which take up about 75% of the sidelines, care about any of this hogwash anymore. Getting your kid out of high school and into college successfully is all that matters right now. Getting grades, getting stronger/better, getting seen, getting good coaching, and staying healthy is all you need to worry about. Scouts don't give a bag of monkey turds about how you ended up in 10th grade, and could care even less whether or not Edge, or Crabs, or LIE, or Looney's, or whoever, win all of their games. Be at the right events, do the right things, and have your crap together at school and home, and good things will happen at the appropriate times. Oh, and try to have some frickin fun along the way, if that is even possible anymore.

Bless the person who stated the above. No truer words have been written. I hope we can all move on from the discussion of holdbacks, re-classing, too old/to young, balls dropping, etc. Play hard, get good grades and hopefully everything will take care of itself.

Forgot about the part to STOP CHEATING to try to look better. smoke and mirrors don't last that long!

Right, sorry, shut up about the fake cheating agenda too.
No

And the fake edge person posting birth dates and signs edge.. edge told people not to post on this site, so someone is just stirring the pot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the fake edge person posting birth dates and signs edge.. edge told people not to post on this site, so someone is just stirring the pot

But you have a special ok to post anonymously?

Let's see Friday @ Blackcard how many coaches show to watch 2020's and 2021's I will come back with a full report next week,

Just over a week and a half away and no schedule for he Big 4. What a joke withthe amount of money they make off the tournament at least get your [lacrosse] together and have it organized

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just over a week and a half away and no schedule for he Big 4. What a joke withthe amount of money they make off the tournament at least get your [lacrosse] together and have it organized

I don't think the fall schedule was out until the start of the week before. Thought I saw they had a group drop out so probably holding off until they can figure things out. Does it really matter? Gonna be a great tourney and besides, big tourney in Holtsville this weekend.

Will be interesting to see how the teams have changed with many teams barely getting together to practice due to HS

give the Crabs credit big event and schedule done a month in advance .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just over a week and a half away and no schedule for he Big 4. What a joke withthe amount of money they make off the tournament at least get your [lacrosse] together and have it organized

Why does it matter if the schedule is out yet? A week or so leading into most events is standard. Chill, over-reach, helicopter.

Holtsville, yes will give all the out of towners a glimpse of the armpit of Long Island. Good luck finding a decent place to eat within 5 miles as well.

Yeah for big 4 it would just be nice to know who you play and times and if it's that stupid one game elimination.. the boys like to play for a championship.. hope have round robins with pools is sooo much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holtsville, yes will give all the out of towners a glimpse of the armpit of Long Island. Good luck finding a decent place to eat within 5 miles as well.

Chilis exit 62

Interesting to see the UA 2017 Command team doesn't list birthdates this year. I guess they determined it was too embarrassing to have a 17 year old freshman and 16 year old 8th grader on the team.

Go to Momma Lommbardi's

forbidden fruit in ronkonkoma

Perfect, thank you. I love good Mexican food.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting to see the UA 2017 Command team doesn't list birthdates this year. I guess they determined it was too embarrassing to have a 17 year old freshman and 16 year old 8th grader on the team.

Where are you even seeing names, let alone birthdates, listed for boys trying out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting to see the UA 2017 Command team doesn't list birthdates this year. I guess they determined it was too embarrassing to have a 17 year old freshman and 16 year old 8th grader on the team.

Where are you even seeing names, let alone birthdates, listed for boys trying out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting to see the UA 2017 Command team doesn't list birthdates this year. I guess they determined it was too embarrassing to have a 17 year old freshman and 16 year old 8th grader on the team.

Nope looks ok, your kid not on there, looks accurate. Oh, and yeah, 16 and 15. Fake news.

Can someone let us know how the squads look after opening weekend.

As wel if 91 finally hit a wall?

March 2000 birthday for a 9th grader. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Originally Posted by Anonymous

March 2000 birthday for a 9th grader. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Which team is that??

Crabs

91 Crush and Crabs dominated their respective pools today. Other crossover spots most likely will go to either Edge or LIE in Crabs' half and LIE North or Laxachusetts in 91 Crush half. Most likely at 91 v Crabs in championship IMHO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs

So you think he won't be playing senior year due to MIAA cut off? Wrong. Fake news. You are a year off.

Great day of ball at NLF. Crush/Crabs final would be hot game if they meet in finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day of ball at NLF. Crush/Crabs final would be hot game if they meet in finals.

Crabs seem
To be killing everyone!

91 have all their guys? Second game close for their standards

Very rough day for 2020 Express Leghart and their Moran 2020 team at NYLA.
Combined 1-5 record, and Leghart lost to Legacy B.
Their parents must be so happy to spend all that money to get beat and hear their coach tell their kids how bad they are all day.
Money well spent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very rough day for 2020 Express Leghart and their Moran 2020 team at NYLA.
Combined 1-5 record, and Leghart lost to Legacy B.
Their parents must be so happy to spend all that money to get beat and hear their coach tell their kids how bad they are all day.
Money well spent.

Sound like tough day. So big of you to pile on.

Looking at the crabs roster half the kids were on the 2019 team last summer.. what a coincidence... Mclearnen is coaching so he drops everyone down.. he even sent his own kid to 2021

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day of ball at NLF. Crush/Crabs final would be hot game if they meet in finals.

Crabs seem
To be killing everyone!

91 have all their guys? Second game close for their standards

Most of the regular studs O'Neil and Arline attack, Ginder and Macadorey at FO, Schirtzer at D, etc. and they all played start to finish. Crush started flat down 3-0 early to spirited LIE North team, down 5-4 at half. Came on strong 2nd half to win 11-7 but probably first time trailing at half in several years and at least a few folks thinking upset was possible. Kudos to the LIE North for hanging tough for 3/4 but Crush pulls out the win in the end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day of ball at NLF. Crush/Crabs final would be hot game if they meet in finals.

Crabs seem
To be killing everyone!

91 have all their guys? Second game close for their standards

Most of the regular studs O'Neil and Arline attack, Ginder and Macadorey at FO, Schirtzer at D, etc. and they all played start to finish. Crush started flat down 3-0 early to spirited LIE North team, down 5-4 at half. Came on strong 2nd half to win 11-7 but probably first time trailing at half in several years and at least a few folks thinking upset was possible. Kudos to the LIE North for hanging tough for 3/4 but Crush pulls out the win in the end.

LIE North is all holbacks so we are really not talking an even match game. Since we're mentioning names, how about you tell the names and ages of the 16 year olds on that team? Cheating holbacks...typical express tactic. They figured it worked for the Crabs, we'll try

Finally can someone agree with me...? LIE North is a top 5-10 team... beat sweetlax national and was beating crush at halftime...

Since you are such a well informed expert on the roster, feel free to share your intimate knowledge with names or pinnie numbers of "all" these holdbacks.
Are there a couple? Yes. Only 2 that I am aware of but would love you to educate me since you seem to have all the facts....
How unfortunate you can't just be gracious as the abover poster was and give credit for a well played game by LIEN.

Looks like Crabs got steamed by Leading Edge - a highly talented, but very average-sized team IIRC. Looks like Crabs will just need to bring bigger kids next time, karma's a biatch. Average sized 2020's - don't assume your spot is safe going into August.

2 hold backs on LIE North. one is the small attackman going to brunswick and the other is a defenseman that wasn't at NLF this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally can someone agree with me...? LIE North is a top 5-10 team... beat sweetlax national and was beating crush at halftime...

Yes excellent team, was beating crush at half but didn't win, and to my knowledge did not make it to the playoff round , but a very impressive team as were most at the NLF event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very rough day for 2020 Express Leghart and their Moran 2020 team at NYLA.
Combined 1-5 record, and Leghart lost to Legacy B.
Their parents must be so happy to spend all that money to get beat and hear their coach tell their kids how bad they are all day.
Money well spent.

Amen. There are some very talented players on both those teams.....but you sure wouldnt know it yesterday.

Laxachusetts called down 2019 players to play against 14 and 15 year olds...Express north has two holdbacks and has several 14 year olds and the rest are 15...This age now has great parity why not enjoy some great lacrosse instead of making up sad lies...was your wife yelling at you again and you realize your weak gene pool is hurting your kid as other kids get bigger faster stronger and smarter?????

What was score of NFL final?

14-1 crush

What team is most likely to take down 91 Crush this summer? If anyone at all

Wow, that final at Main event is ridiculous!! Crabs play Crush in the semis?!?! Didn't sweet lax beat laxachusetts so why are they in the semis?!?! Gotta do better than that when you're bringing that much talent to the island. Big 4 next weekend will be a blast. Good luck to all the teams.

Crush 8 - Crabs 6 in semis. Great game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What team is most likely to take down 91 Crush this summer? If anyone at all

I'm calling edge does next weekend

What was the score in the finals between Leading Edge and Crush? Tourney Machine lists it as 1-0? Di Edge forfeit?

Seriously Monday morning and no schedule for big 4 yet

Dude, you're a '20 parent, not new to this. Never expect a schedule for any tournament till Wednesday.

LIEN 2020AA: 2 reclassed athletes-- mostly 15 yr olds and some later year 14 yr olds on the team as wll. They held their own against Crush - up at the half with an 11-9 final. They were bounced out of the playoff round after their last game. Stick with the facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the score in the finals between Leading Edge and Crush? Tourney Machine lists it as 1-0? Di Edge forfeit?

It was 13 or 14-1 Crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the score in the finals between Leading Edge and Crush? Tourney Machine lists it as 1-0? Di Edge forfeit?

14-1 crush

This all gets really messy and inconvenient now with the boys in high school. Specifically final exams, regents, etc. are a real issue in New [lacrosse]. Under Armour tryouts are smack dab in the middle of it as are NLF and Big 4 and others. Coaches talk a good game about "hitting the books" so then why jam in so much at a time when they should be studying? That is rhetorical we know the answer. Carry on.

Agreed. Summer clubs have completely encroached on the HS season and school year.

Why does Tourney Machine have the final of Leading Edge vs 91 Crush at 1-0 game instead of actual score mentioned above?

Crabs are built on the holdback scheme. Big kids - playing little kids. 17 year old 9th grader on the team. Sham.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally can someone agree with me...? LIE North is a top 5-10 team... beat sweetlax national and was beating crush at halftime...

Is that the same LIE North team playing in B division of Laxfest?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was score of NFL final?

New England 34 Atlanta 28

Tourney Machine is all out of whack. Other tournaments also had wrong teams playing each other in the brackets, wrong teams advancing, etc. Total mess if you are not at the actual tournament.

No- the LIEN team playing in Laxfest is the A (second) team; the team that played at NLF this weekend was the AA (top) team. . . .

Saw some photos of crush.. they had some big boys.. don't have them last summer few extra holdbacks added.. worries the reign may be over

Anyone want to give their opinion a top 10?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw some photos of crush.. they had some big boys.. don't have them last summer few extra holdbacks added.. worries the reign may be over

Lol yeah OK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw some photos of crush.. they had some big boys.. don't have them last summer few extra holdbacks added.. worries the reign may be over

Same team same result. At this point I unfortunately know them all
Gotta say tho stalking boys photos is strange. Try going to the gym as a hobby

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to give their opinion a top 10?

1. Crush

and (in no order)

2. Looney's, Crabs, FCA MD, Sweet Lax, LIE, LIE North, Leading Edge, Hawks, Laxachussetts, Edge?

At this point, it's the same group always vying for the top ten. This weekend at Big 4 will be another good tournament and will give more visibility into the top five (though the first five might give the 2-6 above....sorry, don't think this weekend's results are indicative of overall talent, esp. in the crush bracket). Again, I think the Holy Grail is to beat crush. . .think they would like the challenge (save one very chirpy youngun'. . .groan). Who's Big 4 Bound??

Here are the teams participating in Big 4 Summer Championship this weekend by age bracket. For 2020, all listed above will be there with the exception of Hawks. Should be interesting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBLdavTXkAEv6gd.jpg

According to Twitter feed, schedule will be posted tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw some photos of crush.. they had some big boys.. don't have them last summer few extra holdbacks added.. worries the reign may be over

It's called growing and ZEUN2K in puberty , and stop leering at photos of other people's sons , its creepy .

Stayed to watch the 2020 Nassau Suffolk tryouts last night. There is a ton of talent coming up for Long Island. Suffolk had skills but Nassau had speed. Nassau middies can fly. They played faster than the 2019s! Should be fun to watch those games. Also could not believe the amount college coaches on sidelines. Good luck boys!

What a dumb set up.. you only play two games Saturday and are pretty much done by 1pm why not play 3 games Saturday like a usual tournament.

fl$ Nassau team very talented.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to give their opinion a top 10?

1. Crush

and (in no order)

2. Looney's, Crabs, FCA MD, Sweet Lax, LIE, LIE North, Leading Edge, Hawks, Laxachussetts, Edge?

At this point, it's the same group always vying for the top ten. This weekend at Big 4 will be another good tournament and will give more visibility into the top five (though the first five might give the 2-6 above....sorry, don't think this weekend's results are indicative of overall talent, esp. in the crush bracket). Again, I think the Holy Grail is to beat crush. . .think they would like the challenge (save one very chirpy youngun'. . .groan). Who's Big 4 Bound??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Nassau team very talented.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to give their opinion a top 10?

1. Crush

and (in no order)

2. Looney's, Crabs, FCA MD, Sweet Lax, LIE, LIE North, Leading Edge, Hawks, Laxachussetts, Edge?

At this point, it's the same group always vying for the top ten. This weekend at Big 4 will be another good tournament and will give more visibility into the top five (though the first five might give the 2-6 above....sorry, don't think this weekend's results are indicative of overall talent, esp. in the crush bracket). Again, I think the Holy Grail is to beat crush. . .think they would like the challenge (save one very chirpy youngun'. . .groan). Who's Big 4 Bound??

Agree FL$ is very talented......especially when it comes to rigging tryouts for top 20 teams. Aren't you embarrassed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stayed to watch the 2020 Nassau Suffolk tryouts last night. There is a ton of talent coming up for Long Island. Suffolk had skills but Nassau had speed. Nassau middies can fly. They played faster than the 2019s! Should be fun to watch those games. Also could not believe the amount college coaches on sidelines. Good luck boys!

How many of those kids are committed to College? Guess they are the end of an Era!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a dumb set up.. you only play two games Saturday and are pretty much done by 1pm why not play 3 games Saturday like a usual tournament.

Actually, I think the set up is awesome! On a super hot weekend, like last weekend, 2 games per day is really perfect. When you get to the 3rd game in the heat, let's face it, no one is playing their best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a dumb set up.. you only play two games Saturday and are pretty much done by 1pm why not play 3 games Saturday like a usual tournament.

Actually, I think the set up is awesome! On a super hot weekend, like last weekend, 2 games per day is really perfect. When you get to the 3rd game in the heat, let's face it, no one is playing their best.

So Sunday to play a final you have 3.... your comment doesn't make ssnse 3 Saturday would be perfect then 2 Sunday so you get the best then

This age group feels different than years past Teams are more individually based. With everything going on with these boys practice is rare Has actually made it more enjoyable.

Every tryout is rigged to some degree. Its just a matter or which org or high school coach is running which event. Don't be naive.

No, I saw them play and not part of fl$ organization. Simply stating my observations. You sound like a disgruntled parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Nassau team very talented.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to give their opinion a top 10?

1. Crush

and (in no order)

2. Looney's, Crabs, FCA MD, Sweet Lax, LIE, LIE North, Leading Edge, Hawks, Laxachussetts, Edge?

At this point, it's the same group always vying for the top ten. This weekend at Big 4 will be another good tournament and will give more visibility into the top five (though the first five might give the 2-6 above....sorry, don't think this weekend's results are indicative of overall talent, esp. in the crush bracket). Again, I think the Holy Grail is to beat crush. . .think they would like the challenge (save one very chirpy youngun'. . .groan). Who's Big 4 Bound??

Agree FL$ is very talented......especially when it comes to rigging tryouts for top 20 teams. Aren't you embarrassed?

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

What's the right roster size broken down by position? My son's team is actually light on kids but we have played teams that look like they have any army. Small rosters are tough in the heat.

that's impossible Looney's-Crush play each other is the FCA team that good? What have they won other than a watered down Naptown event last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

FCA is a good team?

I say the pool play results in the following winners:

Leading Edge
LIEN
Looney's
Team 91

Crush and looneys are in same division that's impossible...

I don't think Leading Edge comes out of their bracket.. IT's going to be Edge

DId FCA play anywhere last weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Maybe one 17 year old total. This group are all way beyond that argument. The negative rhetoric is a clear sign of someone not on one of those teams. There's no doubt Crush team to beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA is a good team?

Yes, very. Edge might just be too good, but FCA is dangerous.

Fca
Crabs
Looneys
Crush.

Crush 9-7 over Looneys in championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA is a good team?

Yes, very. Edge might just be too good, but FCA is dangerous.

No one has seen edge play yet this summer who knows?

Box kills them around this age they are sure to be missing kids...

Did FCA play anywhere last weekend?

Looneys complain? Didn't wanna be in crabs bracket?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA is a good team?

Yes, very. Edge might just be too good, but FCA is dangerous.

No one has seen edge play yet this summer who knows?

Box kills them around this age they are sure to be missing kids...

Did FCA play anywhere last weekend?

Careful, If the game's not going well Edge will resort to breaking bones and stomping feet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DId FCA play anywhere last weekend?

No, prayer vigil. They will arrive powered by the Holy Spirit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Maybe one 17 year old total. This group are all way beyond that argument. The negative rhetoric is a clear sign of someone not on one of those teams. There's no doubt Crush team to beat.

I guess if you say "this group ARE all way beyond that argument" then it must be true. Especially, if you're from Md. Not sure of your educational back ground, but your grammar is awful. MD kids and their parents always play down. If you're admitting to one 17 year old, I would suspect predictions much closer to the actual. Also , no comment on 16 year olds which MD teams will be loaded with. Md kids play down. There are many rising Seniors that are still 16!!! Many 2020's are still 14.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA is a good team?

Yes, very. Edge might just be too good, but FCA is dangerous.

No one has seen edge play yet this summer who knows?

Box kills them around this age they are sure to be missing kids...

Did FCA play anywhere last weekend?

Careful, If the game's not going well Edge will resort to breaking bones and stomping feet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA is a good team?

Yes, very. Edge might just be too good, but FCA is dangerous.

No one has seen edge play yet this summer who knows?

Box kills them around this age they are sure to be missing kids...

Did FCA play anywhere last weekend?

Careful, If the game's not going well Edge will resort to breaking bones and stomping feet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA is a good team?

Yes, very. Edge might just be too good, but FCA is dangerous.

No one has seen edge play yet this summer who knows?

Box kills them around this age they are sure to be missing kids...

Did FCA play anywhere last weekend?

Careful, If the game's not going well Edge will resort to breaking bones and stomping feet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA is a good team?

Yes, very. Edge might just be too good, but FCA is dangerous.

No one has seen edge play yet this summer who knows?

Box kills them around this age they are sure to be missing kids...

Did FCA play anywhere last weekend?

Careful, If the game's not going well Edge will resort to breaking bones and stomping feet.

What are we 10?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Maybe one 17 year old total. This group are all way beyond that argument. The negative rhetoric is a clear sign of someone not on one of those teams. There's no doubt Crush team to beat.

I guess if you say "this group ARE all way beyond that argument" then it must be true. Especially, if you're from Md. Not sure of your educational back ground, but your grammar is awful. MD kids and their parents always play down. If you're admitting to one 17 year old, I would suspect predictions much closer to the actual. Also , no comment on 16 year olds which MD teams will be loaded with. Md kids play down. There are many rising Seniors that are still 16!!! Many 2020's are still 14.

No 2020's are 14 unless they started school early. Stop the nonsense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys complain? Didn't wanna be in crabs bracket?

My guess would be that Crabs complained.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.
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Maybe one 17 year old total. This group are all way beyond that argument. The negative rhetoric is a clear sign of someone not on one of those teams. There's no doubt Crush team to beat.
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I guess if you say "this group ARE all way beyond that argument" then it must be true. Especially, if you're from Md. Not sure of your educational back ground, but your grammar is awful. MD kids and their parents always play down. If you're admitting to one 17 year old, I would suspect predictions much closer to the actual. Also , no comment on 16 year olds which MD teams will be loaded with. Md kids play down. There are many rising Seniors that are still 16!!! Many 2020's are still 14.[/quote]

Correcting grammar in this setting is really weak, especially when you muff it up so badly that some other idiot like me gets to do this:
line 1 - comma after the word "say", because you are setting up a direct quotation.
line 1 - only one space after comma following "back ground", which should be "background", because it is one compound word in that sentence.
line 1 - it is "than", not "then".
line 1 - sentence 2 is incomplete, and even if it was complete, no comma after "especially".
line 1 - abbreviation of states would be in caps, so MD, but you do it correctly later, so that is a start. However, you do it incorrectly again in the last sentence, and exclude the period, which was the correct way to do it about 20 years ago. So you also did it incorrectly if you thought you were using the old system, after doing it correctly with the old system in line 1.
line 2 - actual. Also, no - instead of actual. Also , no. Let me help you - two spaces after period, no space before comma.
line 3 - comma after "olds", but "olds" is not a word, so it would be a comma after where you would have written, "16-year-old kids". Note the added hyphens, because you are describing the non-existent noun that I added for you. Again, because "olds" is not a thing, so it can't be a noun.
line 3 - please don't end a sentence with a preposition. Since you don't know what that means, the word "with" is a preposition. For you, just don't end sentences with that word, and don't worry about the reason.
Thank you so much for that ("that" is a preposition, so I will continue the sentence, in order to close it properly) opportunity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys complain? Didn't wanna be in crabs bracket?

Doubtful. They are all friends and classmates. Both strong teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys complain? Didn't wanna be in crabs bracket?

My guess would be that Crabs complained.

Nope. They would both be looking forward to it. Don't try to start a problem where it doesn't exist.

Spot on with the holdback comment. 17 and 16 year old will be a good portion o the starting lineups for Crabs and FCA. That's how people roll in the MIAA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after the bf 4 schedules out any predictions on who makes it out of each bracket?

Fca
Crabs
Looney's
Crush

FCA takes the whole thing.

How many 17 year olds will each MD team have? My over under will be 3. With FCA leading with 5 and Crabs a close second with 4. 16 year olds should lead the way on numbers. Neither Crabs or FCA will have 1 kid that would be age appropriate in NY for a rising 10th grader. Funny thing is Crush will most likely win it all again.

Maybe one 17 year old total. This group are all way beyond that argument. The negative rhetoric is a clear sign of someone not on one of those teams. There's no doubt Crush team to beat.

I guess if you say "this group ARE all way beyond that argument" then it must be true. Especially, if you're from Md. Not sure of your educational back ground, but your grammar is awful. MD kids and their parents always play down. If you're admitting to one 17 year old, I would suspect predictions much closer to the actual. Also , no comment on 16 year olds which MD teams will be loaded with. Md kids play down. There are many rising Seniors that are still 16!!! Many 2020's are still 14.

No 2020's are 14 unless they started school early. Stop the nonsense

My 2020 is 14 and will not be 15 until after the summer season is over. He didn't start school early. Quite a few on his team are not yet 15. On LI a 2020 who did not holdback will be 14 or 15 for this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spot on with the holdback comment. 17 and 16 year old will be a good portion o the starting lineups for Crabs and FCA. That's how people roll in the MIAA.

Nope. If there were any 17, they would not be eligible to play as a Senior in school. There are no current MIAA players set to be ineligible. That is a known fact.

Ok, thanks for sharing. Is there anymore ways to keep saying the same thing over and over. 14/15 public, 15/16 private, got it. Seriously, shut the f up. It's like the Russia probe with the libs. Dave Pietramala could turn out to be a KGB CIA double agent, and leaker, tomorrow on the news, and within an hour, we'd be back on the holdback discussion, we are going to give Wolf Blitzer a freaking coronary. Seriously, give it a f'ing rest already.

That is complete BS - there is at least one 17 year old on the Crabs 2020 team. 3/2000 dob. Driver's licenses don't lie.

We've got plenty of 14 year old 2020's. My November kid is a15 year old 2020 and he's the oldest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We've got plenty of 14 year old 2020's. My November kid is a15 year old 2020 and he's the oldest.

Which team is that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We've got plenty of 14 year old 2020's. My November kid is a15 year old 2020 and he's the oldest.

Which team is that

Most 2020s outside of the MIAA and Canada

Just have a question for the high school coaches and other who are in charge of the Nassau vs Suffolk teams....first you give kids a pass
(based on what ? ) that had their high school playoffs and allow them to play in front of the college coaches without actually trying out on Monday....than you make a final team and decide to add a kid you cut...small donation into the kitty from the rich dad ? It's really a shame you guys try to pass these things off as great opportunities for the kids when the nepotism of those involved shine through and through. Keep patting yourselves on the back. Bravo !!!! Your no better than all those other scam artists taking parents money on a pipe dream.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just have a question for the high school coaches and other who are in charge of the Nassau vs Suffolk teams....first you give kids a pass
(based on what ? ) that had their high school playoffs and allow them to play in front of the college coaches without actually trying out on Monday....than you make a final team and decide to add a kid you cut...small donation into the kitty from the rich dad ? It's really a shame you guys try to pass these things off as great opportunities for the kids when the nepotism of those involved shine through and through. Keep patting yourselves on the back. Bravo !!!! Your no better than all those other scam artists taking parents money on a pipe dream.

I'm not sure if you're talk about the same kid, but I know for sure this happened on the rising Jr team. A kid who was cut is now back on after a call from Smithtown. Awful . The sad part is how many deserving kids were overlooked unless their HS coach had them on a special list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just have a question for the high school coaches and other who are in charge of the Nassau vs Suffolk teams....first you give kids a pass
(based on what ? ) that had their high school playoffs and allow them to play in front of the college coaches without actually trying out on Monday....than you make a final team and decide to add a kid you cut...small donation into the kitty from the rich dad ? It's really a shame you guys try to pass these things off as great opportunities for the kids when the nepotism of those involved shine through and through. Keep patting yourselves on the back. Bravo !!!! Your no better than all those other scam artists taking parents money on a pipe dream.

A pass because they were in the playoffs. Are you kidding? Just because your kids team sucks and won 3 games doesn't mean the kids on great programs should get passed over. Your tin hat is too tight dude!

And the '20 cut kid that miraculously made it back on the list has no business being there. Horrible tryout and playing the wrong position. Dr. Evil Dad can't manage the process forever. Kid peaked long ago and you can't coach athleticism.

Why is it that whenever a kid doesn't make a team his daddy thinks he should it's a scam, but when junior does make a team it's all legit?

I don't like the HS public school coach, who also works for a club team, picking a disproportionate number of those club team kids over more deserving players. My kid was on the bubble, so I am not saying he got hosed by not making it, but I know plenty of top players who got passed over in favor of the coach's private employer club kids. I am sorry, but that is BS. And Year, it is BS when it harpoon with Under Armour and Brine too. These guys are all massively conflicted and the process stinks.

No way! That happens? News Flash-bias is present in EVERY tryout. Just a matter of who is running it. All kids on team are good and plenty of kids that are very good not on the team--same as any other team that gets selected. Many different outlets and teams to tryout for with different selectors in the coming years and none of them is the end all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the HS public school coach, who also works for a club team, picking a disproportionate number of those club team kids over more deserving players. My kid was on the bubble, so I am not saying he got hosed by not making it, but I know plenty of top players who got passed over in favor of the coach's private employer club kids. I am sorry, but that is BS. And Year, it is BS when it harpoon with Under Armour and Brine too. These guys are all massively conflicted and the process stinks.

Will his kid who lost every face off he took be there tonight?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the HS public school coach, who also works for a club team, picking a disproportionate number of those club team kids over more deserving players. My kid was on the bubble, so I am not saying he got hosed by not making it, but I know plenty of top players who got passed over in favor of the coach's private employer club kids. I am sorry, but that is BS. And Year, it is BS when it harpoon with Under Armour and Brine too. These guys are all massively conflicted and the process stinks.

who does? i dont know anyone that likes that guy

you can sign up for next years tryouts and you know you will.. pull your money and it will get fixed, keep paying and you will continue to get $hit on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the HS public school coach, who also works for a club team, picking a disproportionate number of those club team kids over more deserving players. My kid was on the bubble, so I am not saying he got hosed by not making it, but I know plenty of top players who got passed over in favor of the coach's private employer club kids. I am sorry, but that is BS. And Year, it is BS when it harpoon with Under Armour and Brine too. These guys are all massively conflicted and the process stinks.

who does? i dont know anyone that likes that guy

What high school?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you can sign up for next years tryouts and you know you will.. pull your money and it will get fixed, keep paying and you will continue to get $hit on.

Everyone will sign up again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the HS public school coach, who also works for a club team, picking a disproportionate number of those club team kids over more deserving players. My kid was on the bubble, so I am not saying he got hosed by not making it, but I know plenty of top players who got passed over in favor of the coach's private employer club kids. I am sorry, but that is BS. And Year, it is BS when it harpoon with Under Armour and Brine too. These guys are all massively conflicted and the process stinks.

who does? i dont know anyone that likes that guy

Agree. Farmingdale/FL$ coach is a tool. His Doogie Hauser boss is a zero too.

Some exhibition games tonigt can see what teams look like! I'm interested to see how looneys and edge look

West coast Stars 12-3 over Edge.. can they give Crush a game in Div D??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some exhibition games tonigt can see what teams look like! I'm interested to see how looneys and edge look

Well, Edge got smoked by West Coast Staz 12-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some exhibition games tonigt can see what teams look like! I'm interested to see how looneys and edge look

Well, Edge got smoked by West Coast Staz 12-3.

Edge was missing. Guys.. as well as trying to gel will bring it tomorrow

There are a lot of 14 year olds on 2020 teams. My district has a 12/31 cut off for Kindergarten. Those kids were 4 years old when they started school back in 2007.

Check out the 17 year old middle on Crabs. What a beast. Dominates 15 year olds.

How come all the other age groups are 1st place A vs 1st place C and 1st place B vs 1st place D but in the 2020 age group it's 1st place A vs 1st place D and 1st place B vs 1st place C? Was someone scared to play crush

What team is LIE Moran/Wieczorek? Is it the top team at 2020 for them?

So much for Edge "bringing it today". The surprise of today has to be Madlax.. Great lacrosse tomorrow..Looneys vs Crabs and FCA vs Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much for Edge "bringing it today". The surprise of today has to be Madlax.. Great lacrosse tomorrow..Looneys vs Crabs and FCA vs Crush.

Hopefully now we can stop talking about Edge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come all the other age groups are 1st place A vs 1st place C and 1st place B vs 1st place D but in the 2020 age group it's 1st place A vs 1st place D and 1st place B vs 1st place C? Was someone scared to play crush

Those playoff brackets were set for this team before they changed Crush from the C to the D pool, so think it was just an oversight and had nothing to do with anyone being afraid of playing Crush.

In fact, I think most teams welcome the opportunity to play Crush since they are the benchmark for this graduation class, and trying to avoid them in the semis would only mean possibly meeting up with them in the finals regardless if that did have anything to do with the thought process. . . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What team is LIE Moran/Wieczorek? Is it the top team at 2020 for them?

The top team is LIE Wieczorek based upon listing on the LIE website and the tournament schedule each 2020 team has. Not sure exactly where Moran/Wieczorek falls in the rankings - looks to be second but maybe some sort of hybrid between 1 and 2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What team is LIE Moran/Wieczorek? Is it the top team at 2020 for them?

The top team is LIE Wieczorek based upon listing on the LIE website and the tournament schedule each 2020 team has. Not sure exactly where Moran/Wieczorek falls in the rankings - looks to be second but maybe some sort of hybrid between 1 and 2?

Leghart is the second team. Leggy is the thiird. Moran/Wieczorek is a money grab new team that is two tournaments in and has yet to win a game.

Moran/Wieczorek is for all the kids that go to St. Ants or Chaminade and feel like they have to be on express in order to play in HS. Pay your 4K and you may play in HS. Shame!!! Shame!!!!

FCA parents are a disgrace to the game of lacrosse. I think everyone can agree on that... they were animals at the Crush game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA parents are a disgrace to the game of lacrosse. I think everyone can agree on that... they were animals at the Crush game.

Ha, Crush parents commenting on the behavior of another team's parents...now that's funny.

So two teams got awfully close to beating Crush!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA parents are a disgrace to the game of lacrosse. I think everyone can agree on that... they were animals at the Crush game.

I was at the game and the parents were fine. What is super odd to me is that the crush coaches "coach" from the field of play. They were definitely freaking out and it is clear that the gap has closed. Actually, there are many , many teams that can give them a run at this point. Any given day. There are going to be a lot of exciting games over the next few years in this age group. Good stuff!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moran/Wieczorek is for all the kids that go to St. Ants or Chaminade and feel like they have to be on express in order to play in HS. Pay your 4K and you may play in HS. Shame!!! Shame!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moran/Wieczorek is for all the kids that go to St. Ants or Chaminade and feel like they have to be on express in order to play in HS. Pay your 4K and you may play in HS. Shame!!! Shame!!!!

Express 2020 Leghart is stealing parent's money as well. Last week lost to Zummo's B team by a couple goals and got run over by True Blue. Then they get beat by a town team twice this weekend. Same HS pressure put on them from the loud mouth head coach. Express should pay taxes to Rockville Centre for all the money they make off of the suckers from that Village.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moran/Wieczorek is for all the kids that go to St. Ants or Chaminade and feel like they have to be on express in order to play in HS. Pay your 4K and you may play in HS. Shame!!! Shame!!!!

Do any of the four 2020 Express teams have a winning record? Great job by the head and assistant coaches of Chaminade and St. Anthony's who coach all of them.
All for the low low price of 4K and a chance to play at our high school.

The tourney machine shows Crush 9-8, but did Looneys win?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check out the 17 year old middle on Crabs. What a beast. Dominates 15 year olds.

No worries, he is not committed yet and with the new rules won't be until others catch up. Now the other "over age" kids on that team...is the way Crabs roll and why most just chuckle at their "talent"*

Yes Looney's won 9-8

Down goes Crush. There is a new Sheriff in town. Outplayed at all positions. Hail to the Looneys! JS almost blew a gasket. Fathers day present?

Looney's won 9-8 in a great game. FCA, Crabs, Crush, Looney's and a couple of other teams are all very close. I believe Crush is still the best but there are now several teams that can compete and possibly win on occasion. Turning point was at the "X" as Looney's faceoff kid was dominate in this game and so was the Looney's goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Down goes Crush. There is a new Sheriff in town. Outplayed at all positions. Hail to the Looneys! JS almost blew a gasket. Fathers day present?

Was a great game. Crush boys gassed out and our boys got hot late. JS was Not there so don't create drama. Proud of our boys

The only reason Crush beat Crabs today is because the Crabs got a 2 minute, locked in penalty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Down goes Crush. There is a new Sheriff in town. Outplayed at all positions. Hail to the Looneys! JS almost blew a gasket. Fathers day present?

Was a great game. Crush boys gassed out and our boys got hot late. JS was Not there so don't create drama. Proud of our boys

Gasket was blown during FCA game. Very rude and abusive to FCA parents and refs. God has a way of making things right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only reason Crush beat Crabs today is because the Crabs got a 2 minute, locked in penalty.

The other reason is they didn't play lolol. Come on if your going to start stuff have the info

Boo f'ing hoo Crabs. The only reason you are competitive is that the majority of the team are reclassed. If you ain't cheatin - you ain't tryin. Pathetic organization on so many levels.

How did your 2022 team do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Down goes Crush. There is a new Sheriff in town. Outplayed at all positions. Hail to the Looneys! JS almost blew a gasket. Fathers day present?

Was a great game. Crush boys gassed out and our boys got hot late. JS was Not there so don't create drama. Proud of our boys

Gasket was blown during FCA game. Very rude and abusive to FCA parents and refs. God has a way of making things right.

With with humility, lose with grace, do both with dignity. Something said about crush...never.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only reason Crush beat Crabs today is because the Crabs got a 2 minute, locked in penalty.

The other reason is they didn't play lolol. Come on if your going to start stuff have the info

Sorry, meant FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The tourney machine shows Crush 9-8, but did Looneys win?

Yes you nut stop stalking boys lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only reason Crush beat Crabs today is because the Crabs got a 2 minute, locked in penalty.

Lol. Isn't that part of the game though ? Kind of like...the only reason we lost is because we did not get another goal. C'mon ...you lost even with your overage hold back team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The tourney machine shows Crush 9-8, but did Looneys win?

Yes you nut stop stalking boys lacrosse

You just stalked boys lacrosse by accusing someone of stalking boys lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only reason Crush beat Crabs today is because the Crabs got a 2 minute, locked in penalty.

Lol. Isn't that part of the game though ? Kind of like...the only reason we lost is because we did not get another goal. C'mon ...you lost even with your overage hold back team.

Crabs didn't play Crush today. Two monkey balls arguing about a non-existent game, so great

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA parents are a disgrace to the game of lacrosse. I think everyone can agree on that... they were animals at the Crush game.

I was at the game and the parents were fine. What is super odd to me is that the crush coaches "coach" from the field of play. They were definitely freaking out and it is clear that the gap has closed. Actually, there are many , many teams that can give them a run at this point. Any given day. There are going to be a lot of exciting games over the next few years in this age group. Good stuff!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA parents are a disgrace to the game of lacrosse. I think everyone can agree on that... they were animals at the Crush game.

I was at the game and the parents were fine. What is super odd to me is that the crush coaches "coach" from the field of play. They were definitely freaking out and it is clear that the gap has closed. Actually, there are many , many teams that can give them a run at this point. Any given day. There are going to be a lot of exciting games over the next few years in this age group. Good stuff!

What's even more interesting is that a team that I've always heard plays only lacrosse year round is playing a team of three-sport athletes and winning by one goal primarily because they were the lucky recipients of a two minute unreleasable penalty.

Not quite what I would say is someone to be proud of.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The tourney machine shows Crush 9-8, but did Looneys win?

Yes you nut stop stalking boys lacrosse

You just stalked boys lacrosse by accusing someone of stalking boys lacrosse

Yeah but your stalking Ty Xanders

It's Lonneys.......then everyone else! Refreshing that the Crush daddies get a slice of humble pie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's Lonneys.......then everyone else! Refreshing that the Crush daddies get a slice of humble pie.

Don't be too upset Crush. It was predicted to happen, and it did as expected. Same happened to the Turtles. They were the tops for years, then others caught up. Inevitable.

The semi's and final game were all 1 point games between Looney's, Crush, Crabs, FCA, great lacrosse, who comes out on top at Crabfeast?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's Lonneys.......then everyone else! Refreshing that the Crush daddies get a slice of humble pie.

Don't be too upset Crush. It was predicted to happen, and it did as expected. Same happened to the Turtles. They were the tops for years, then others caught up. Inevitable.

As a crush parent was a great weekend teams and competition were strong. Having two tough early Sunday games caught up to the team at the end Great job looneys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's Lonneys.......then everyone else! Refreshing that the Crush daddies get a slice of humble pie.

Don't be too upset Crush. It was predicted to happen, and it did as expected. Same happened to the Turtles. They were the tops for years, then others caught up. Inevitable.

As a crush parent was a great weekend teams and competition were strong. Having two tough early Sunday games caught up to the team at the end Great job looneys

Great semi final and final games. looking forward to seeing all four teams compete in tournaments this summer. they proved that they are the best 2020 teams in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The semi's and final game were all 1 point games between Looney's, Crush, Crabs, FCA, great lacrosse, who comes out on top at Crabfeast?

Is Crush going to Crabfeast?

Also Naptown is right around the corner too

Top 10 anyone?

1. Crush (They looked as if they lacked motivation and JS wasn't there)
2. FCA (I feel that they could have beaten Crush)
3. Looneys (Great tournament, but caught Crush on an off game)
4. West Coast Stars (Gave Crush a really deep run for their money)
5. Crabs (Falling off a bit, still dominant at times)
6. Edge
7. Laxachussetts
8. Leading edge
9. LI Express
10.Express North

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Crush (They looked as if they lacked motivation and JS wasn't there)
2. FCA (I feel that they could have beaten Crush)
3. Looneys (Great tournament, but caught Crush on an off game)
4. West Coast Stars (Gave Crush a really deep run for their money)
5. Crabs (Falling off a bit, still dominant at times)
6. Edge
7. Laxachussetts
8. Leading edge
9. LI Express
10.Express North

The only top is Looneys....until someone beats them, sorry. 3 JS teams lost yesterday, so he would not have been much help whining on the sideline. And LI Express and Edge are out, simply do not belong this high.. Laxachusettes maybe at #10 Express North needs to play some more before being on this list (Freedom would get on before them). Madlax and Primetime should be on. Your list needs a LOT of work!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Crush (They looked as if they lacked motivation and JS wasn't there)
2. FCA (I feel that they could have beaten Crush)
3. Looneys (Great tournament, but caught Crush on an off game)
4. West Coast Stars (Gave Crush a really deep run for their money)
5. Crabs (Falling off a bit, still dominant at times)
6. Edge
7. Laxachussetts
8. Leading edge
9. LI Express
10.Express North

Not sure if JS was there for every game, but he was at the tournament for sure. And, Crush had to work very hard on Day 2 of the tournament and that will continue all summer long. Nearly impossible to come up with a "top 10" there were so many very close games this past weekend.

that funny edge aren't top 20 they lost all their players. Their top attack didn't return very obvious this weekend going to be a long summer

This is the point where Crush implodes. The top 6 six guys (the only ones they care about) are already committed. The rest are trying to get there, but will have to wait because of the new rules. You think any of those top 6 kids are going to keep playing club to help out their teammates? No way. The Denver tournament showed that the leadership and top kids couldn't care less about the other guys.

Expect more losses and the collapse of this team by the end of the summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Crush (They looked as if they lacked motivation and JS wasn't there)
2. FCA (I feel that they could have beaten Crush)
3. Looneys (Great tournament, but caught Crush on an off game)
4. West Coast Stars (Gave Crush a really deep run for their money)
5. Crabs (Falling off a bit, still dominant at times)
6. Edge
7. Laxachussetts
8. Leading edge
9. LI Express
10.Express North

1. Looney's
2. Crush
3. FCA
4. Crabs
5. WC Starz
Gotta pass the crown and go get it back. Crabs had 2 goal game with Crush last week, and multiple teams had them in one goal game finishes this week, so it was coming. Wasn't some fluke game, Looney's has dominating for some time now.

Crabs ahead of WC at #4. Played Looney's to 1 goal game this week, Crush to 2 point last week, tougher schedule this week. Would like to see FCA/WC/Crabs all play each other, but think you are right with FCA above at #3.

This is the point where, beside you 5 or 10 crazies who continuously post on here, no one cares.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Crush (They looked as if they lacked motivation and JS wasn't there)
2. FCA (I feel that they could have beaten Crush)
3. Looneys (Great tournament, but caught Crush on an off game)
4. West Coast Stars (Gave Crush a really deep run for their money)
5. Crabs (Falling off a bit, still dominant at times)
6. Edge
7. Laxachussetts
8. Leading edge
9. LI Express
10.Express North

1. Looney's
2. Crush
3. FCA
4. Crabs
5. WC Starz
Gotta pass the crown and go get it back. Crabs had 2 goal game with Crush last week, and multiple teams had them in one goal game finishes this week, so it was coming. Wasn't some fluke game, Looney's has dominating for some time now.

Crabs ahead of WC at #4. Played Looney's to 1 goal game this week, Crush to 2 point last week, tougher schedule this week. Would like to see FCA/WC/Crabs all play each other, but think you are right with FCA above at #3.

Top 4 are the top 4. All are great. Crush lost to Looneys, Looneys lost to FCA, FCA lost to Crush, Crabs lost to Crush, Crabs lost to Looneys. All close games. why the need for rankings?

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

Oh, I thought just Looney's won a lacrosse tournament by playing lacrosse. Thanks for clearing up the matter of who is the most neurotic parent, though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

...that moment when the FCA parent takes credit for the Looney's win against another team. Wow, what an idiot. Cause Looney's didn't break their as* up until the last 10 seconds in a 1-point come from behind game against Crabs or anything. I mean, Christ, can the winner get a little credit...oh never mind.

Its called "depth"..Crush ran 4 middies and Looneys have 9 contributing middies.. and whoever posted that first top 10 is way off. WCS stars are inconsistent. They lost to Primetime and barely beat Big 4 HHH 8-7. Crabs, NH Tmohawls, Leading edge, Sweetlax National are all better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

In disgusting fake polite fashion, this b@tc& just said, the refs lost us the game, the other MD teams aren't sh&t, and FCA cleared the way for Looneys win, even though her kid's team is better than everyone, including Crush. This b*t@h be crazy! Gotta love that mission.sk

Why is crush not playing in crabfeast?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

Uh, in the semi's Crabs lost by 1 to Looneys, FCA lost by 1 to Crush, so Looneys and Crush played a championship game. Pretty simple, honey, no spin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is crush not playing in crabfeast?

Because they don't want to play the top teams anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is crush not playing in crabfeast?

Scared of a rematch? Or maybe a loss to another top team. Turtles Deja Vue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Crush (They looked as if they lacked motivation and JS wasn't there)
2. FCA (I feel that they could have beaten Crush)
3. Looneys (Great tournament, but caught Crush on an off game)
4. West Coast Stars (Gave Crush a really deep run for their money)
5. Crabs (Falling off a bit, still dominant at times)
6. Edge
7. Laxachussetts
8. Leading edge
9. LI Express
10.Express North

1. Looney's
2. Crush
3. FCA
4. Crabs
5. WC Starz
Gotta pass the crown and go get it back. Crabs had 2 goal game with Crush last week, and multiple teams had them in one goal game finishes this week, so it was coming. Wasn't some fluke game, Looney's has dominating for some time now.

Crabs ahead of WC at #4. Played Looney's to 1 goal game this week, Crush to 2 point last week, tougher schedule this week. Would like to see FCA/WC/Crabs all play each other, but think you are right with FCA above at #3.

Didn't NXT beat West Coast twice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moran/Wieczorek is for all the kids that go to St. Ants or Chaminade and feel like they have to be on express in order to play in HS. Pay your 4K and you may play in HS. Shame!!! Shame!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moran/Wieczorek is for all the kids that go to St. Ants or Chaminade and feel like they have to be on express in order to play in HS. Pay your 4K and you may play in HS. Shame!!! Shame!!!!

Express 2020 Leghart is stealing parent's money as well. Last week lost to Zummo's B team by a couple goals and got run over by True Blue. Then they get beat by a town team twice this weekend. Same HS pressure put on them from the loud mouth head coach. Express should pay taxes to Rockville Centre for all the money they make off of the suckers from that Village.

Why are any of the parents suckers on this team? The kids have fun, they compete hard and it's a decent team. The parents all get along and so do the kids. Manhasset played well and won by a goal in one game and won the second game in a braveheart. I don't think that's a beat down, Do you? Congratulations to Manhasset. Please don't hate what you do not have on your own sons team. And if you are lucky and nice to this group maybe one of the boys on this team will hire your son one day. Good luck to your sons team the rest of the Summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Crush (They looked as if they lacked motivation and JS wasn't there)
2. FCA (I feel that they could have beaten Crush)
3. Looneys (Great tournament, but caught Crush on an off game)
4. West Coast Stars (Gave Crush a really deep run for their money)
5. Crabs (Falling off a bit, still dominant at times)
6. Edge
7. Laxachussetts
8. Leading edge
9. LI Express
10.Express North

1. Looney's
2. Crush
3. FCA
4. Crabs
5. WC Starz
Gotta pass the crown and go get it back. Crabs had 2 goal game with Crush last week, and multiple teams had them in one goal game finishes this week, so it was coming. Wasn't some fluke game, Looney's has dominating for some time now.

Crabs ahead of WC at #4. Played Looney's to 1 goal game this week, Crush to 2 point last week, tougher schedule this week. Would like to see FCA/WC/Crabs all play each other, but think you are right with FCA above at #3.

Didn't NXT beat West Coast twice

No one cares about NXT, they only play weak tournaments, and that team WCS Blue is their B team

Primetime????? Don't think so...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

Uh, in the semi's Crabs lost by 1 to Looneys, FCA lost by 1 to Crush, so Looneys and Crush played a championship game. Pretty simple, honey, no spin.

Seriously. FCA Mom above is delusional. Let's give Looneys credit for running the gauntlet and winning a very tough tournament championship. Bottom line: they faced the best and beat the best.

So, thoughts on this year's Showtime for the '20s? Curious how many will miss due to Crab Feast and other tournaments. Curious what the coach turnout will look like. They'll be there watching the '19s for sure. Attendance at '20s has seemed moderate to none.

agreed never saw more than 5 coaches watching a 2020 game last weekend at 4HHH.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

"Towson clears the way for Maryland to win in the NCAA finals". Read all about it. Are you the best lax mommy, are you, are you?? Aww, were they nice to each other, but played hard, awww, poor babies, we are so proud of them... Total dumbbell.

Any FOGO 2020 based in Baltimore or prepared to get there want to play this weekend at Crabfeast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is the point where Crush implodes. The top 6 six guys (the only ones they care about) are already committed. The rest are trying to get there, but will have to wait because of the new rules. You think any of those top 6 kids are going to keep playing club to help out their teammates? No way. The Denver tournament showed that the leadership and top kids couldn't care less about the other guys.

Expect more losses and the collapse of this team by the end of the summer.

I think you may be right. Probably why they are ducking Crabfeast. Those top kids are great and probably don't want to play anymore now that they are committed.

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Maybe they should change their schedule, otherwise, they will be labeled the number two for a looooong time. May cause JS a mental breakdown, especially since his other teams are slipping as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Maybe they should change their schedule, otherwise, they will be labeled the number two for a looooong time. May cause JS a mental breakdown, especially since his other teams are slipping as well.

with all the losses you have how's your mental status that &@*#ing guy doesn't lose often. Agree tho when he does you have to enjoy it and take cover the next tournament Guys a nut but can coach !! Lol. Looneys will have a target this week. Let's do it again looney nation

Interesting discussion question. If you had to build the best possible 2020 team, whose attack, midfield, faceoff man, defense, and goalie combination would you take?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting discussion question. If you had to build the best possible 2020 team, whose attack, midfield, faceoff man, defense, and goalie combination would you take?

If I could make an imaginary animal I would combine the tiger and eagle. That way he could fly and eat things.....like you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Maybe they should change their schedule, otherwise, they will be labeled the number two for a looooong time. May cause JS a mental breakdown, especially since his other teams are slipping as well.

with all the losses you have how's your mental status that &@*#ing guy doesn't lose often. Agree tho when he does you have to enjoy it and take cover the next tournament Guys a nut but can coach !! Lol. Looneys will have a target this week. Let's do it again looney nation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Maybe they should change their schedule, otherwise, they will be labeled the number two for a looooong time. May cause JS a mental breakdown, especially since his other teams are slipping as well.

with all the losses you have how's your mental status that &@*#ing guy doesn't lose often. Agree tho when he does you have to enjoy it and take cover the next tournament Guys a nut but can coach !! Lol. Looneys will have a target this week. Let's do it again looney nation

All three of his teams lost last weekend, so we'll see??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting discussion question. If you had to build the best possible 2020 team, whose attack, midfield, faceoff man, defense, and goalie combination would you take?

I would just switch your head with your butt, then make you walk around for a while until you learned not to ask stupid questions anymore

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Crush (They looked as if they lacked motivation and JS wasn't there)
2. FCA (I feel that they could have beaten Crush)
3. Looneys (Great tournament, but caught Crush on an off game)
4. West Coast Stars (Gave Crush a really deep run for their money)
5. Crabs (Falling off a bit, still dominant at times)
6. Edge
7. Laxachussetts
8. Leading edge
9. LI Express
10.Express North

1. Looney's
2. Crush
3. FCA
4. Crabs
5. WC Starz
Gotta pass the crown and go get it back. Crabs had 2 goal game with Crush last week, and multiple teams had them in one goal game finishes this week, so it was coming. Wasn't some fluke game, Looney's has dominating for some time now.

Crabs ahead of WC at #4. Played Looney's to 1 goal game this week, Crush to 2 point last week, tougher schedule this week. Would like to see FCA/WC/Crabs all play each other, but think you are right with FCA above at #3.

Didn't NXT beat West Coast twice

No one cares about NXT, they only play weak tournaments, and that team WCS Blue is their B team

NXT goes 5-0 beating Juiced Cherries, VLC, Amped, Blackwolf and someone else. Isn't blackwolf and vlc top tier programs.

Question: If your kid could only play for a top club OR a top high school program which would you choose?

Reading all these posts it seems most on here believe summer club lacrosse is way more important than high school lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Maybe they should change their schedule, otherwise, they will be labeled the number two for a looooong time. May cause JS a mental breakdown, especially since his other teams are slipping as well.

with all the losses you have how's your mental status that &@*#ing guy doesn't lose often. Agree tho when he does you have to enjoy it and take cover the next tournament Guys a nut but can coach !! Lol. Looneys will have a target this week. Let's do it again looney nation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Maybe they should change their schedule, otherwise, they will be labeled the number two for a looooong time. May cause JS a mental breakdown, especially since his other teams are slipping as well.

with all the losses you have how's your mental status that &@*#ing guy doesn't lose often. Agree tho when he does you have to enjoy it and take cover the next tournament Guys a nut but can coach !! Lol. Looneys will have a target this week. Let's do it again looney nation

All three of his teams lost last weekend, so we'll see??

Only has two 2020 and 2023 the third is the lizards who actually won. Just checked on tourney machine his 23's lost in finals so if two one goal losses in finals is a bad weekend I would like one of those for my son. Lololol good luck everyone at crabfeast looking forward to it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting discussion question. If you had to build the best possible 2020 team, whose attack, midfield, faceoff man, defense, and goalie combination would you take?

Crabs and FCA answer: "We took our 2019 team and built our best possible 2020 team."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Maybe they should change their schedule, otherwise, they will be labeled the number two for a looooong time. May cause JS a mental breakdown, especially since his other teams are slipping as well.

with all the losses you have how's your mental status that &@*#ing guy doesn't lose often. Agree tho when he does you have to enjoy it and take cover the next tournament Guys a nut but can coach !! Lol. Looneys will have a target this week. Let's do it again looney nation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In defense of them they have not attended crabfeast the past 4 years Looked on their website. They are playing 2 NLF the HHH AND naptown

Maybe they should change their schedule, otherwise, they will be labeled the number two for a looooong time. May cause JS a mental breakdown, especially since his other teams are slipping as well.

with all the losses you have how's your mental status that &@*#ing guy doesn't lose often. Agree tho when he does you have to enjoy it and take cover the next tournament Guys a nut but can coach !! Lol. Looneys will have a target this week. Let's do it again looney nation

All three of his teams lost last weekend, so we'll see??

Only has two 2020 and 2023 the third is the lizards who actually won. Just checked on tourney machine his 23's lost in finals so if two one goal losses in finals is a bad weekend I would like one of those for my son. Lololol good luck everyone at crabfeast looking forward to it

His daughters team, YJ Spallina lost in MD. Boohooo

The Turtles weren't afraid to play the best at Crabfeast. Hate the Crabs, but that tournament is the best collection of top teams every summer. Maybe the Crush team is disbanding after all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting discussion question. If you had to build the best possible 2020 team, whose attack, midfield, faceoff man, defense, and goalie combination would you take?

I would just switch your head with your butt, then make you walk around for a while until you learned not to ask stupid questions anymore

Really just making it the Dale Doback centaur would do the trick

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Turtles weren't afraid to play the best at Crabfeast. Hate the Crabs, but that tournament is the best collection of top teams every summer. Maybe the Crush team is disbanding after all.

lolol

Id like to see the Crabs, FCA, Looneys play without their holdback. 2019s pretending to be 2020s is a joke.

Looks like NXT has lost only to Legacy so far this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Id like to see the Crabs, FCA, Looneys play without their holdback. 2019s pretending to be 2020s is a joke.

You should start a High School birth-year-buddies lax club. Really, sounds awesome, and I think the relevance will overwhelm the College recruiters. It will be revolutionary. Who knows, it could be so big that Varsity HS teams may even re-shape how they do business. We could have Varsity teams for each birth year, so great, and we can have helicopter parents for 18 years, instead of 14 years (or 19 for those pesky holdback people). Why stop at sports, I mean the military can do treaties to pair up enemy combatants by birth year, so you only get shot at by real live actual birth-year-buddies from other lands. But wait, we are running a special - will your child-adult be competing for an accounting, marketing, or sales job against someone older, not any more, our birth-year-buddies job placement program sounds perfect for your little-big guy. Why stop at actual birth year, because 11 months is a huge spread, really unfair, we can set up birth-minute-buddies colonies at birth, with huge domes like in the Simpsons movie.

Recalibrating top 10 based on recent results at Big 4. Might last one week.

Looneys
Crush
FCA
Crabs
PrimeTime (went 4-0, beat WCS, Mesa, BBL, and C2C)
Madlax (went 4-0, beat Laxachussetts, LE, SweetLax, and Eclipse)
WCS
Express North
Legacy (not at Big 4 but runner up at Adrenaline)
Leading Edge

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

Hey turd burglar, did you just fall off the apple cart yesterday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

I've never thought of this and I love it!!! Completely agree, meritocracy at it's finest! Please let's do it! Either this or age brackets, not this BS gaming of the school system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

We do have it both ways, dingus. Summer is set up by grade for scouting ease. HS is HS, because it is HS, and your HS is putting a team together for the sole purpose of playing other HS's in the HS divisions, in which the other HS's participate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Id like to see the Crabs, FCA, Looneys play without their holdback. 2019s pretending to be 2020s is a joke.

For Crabs look no further than WSYL in 2015. Beat Crush by 1 at the beach with their holdbacks, lost by a lot without them.

Denver, never forget!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recalibrating top 10 based on recent results at Big 4. Might last one week.

Looneys
Crush
FCA
Crabs
PrimeTime (went 4-0, beat WCS, Mesa, BBL, and C2C)
Madlax (went 4-0, beat Laxachussetts, LE, SweetLax, and Eclipse)
WCS
Express North
Legacy (not at Big 4 but runner up at Adrenaline)
Leading Edge

Hawk should slot in around #5-7 on that list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Id like to see the Crabs, FCA, Looneys play without their holdback. 2019s pretending to be 2020s is a joke.

Will you be my birth-year-buddy for life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

We do have it both ways, dingus. Summer is set up by grade for scouting ease. HS is HS, because it is HS, and your HS is putting a team together for the sole purpose of playing other HS's in the HS divisions, in which the other HS's participate.

With the new recruiting rules, it doesn't make sense any more to have the class-based team divisions - talent can be evaluated based upon the play seen and the details on grade for any player is readily available to the coaches as provided by the tourney to the college coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

We do have it both ways, dingus. Summer is set up by grade for scouting ease. HS is HS, because it is HS, and your HS is putting a team together for the sole purpose of playing other HS's in the HS divisions, in which the other HS's participate.

With the new recruiting rules, it doesn't make sense any more to have the class-based team divisions - talent can be evaluated based upon the play seen and the details on grade for any player is readily available to the coaches as provided by the tourney to the college coaches.

That's silly. The process does not change, it only gets pushed back a year or two.

It should be aged based from K to 8th grade. After that it, your in HS and it doesn't matter anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

We do have it both ways, dingus. Summer is set up by grade for scouting ease. HS is HS, because it is HS, and your HS is putting a team together for the sole purpose of playing other HS's in the HS divisions, in which the other HS's participate.

With the new recruiting rules, it doesn't make sense any more to have the class-based team divisions - talent can be evaluated based upon the play seen and the details on grade for any player is readily available to the coaches as provided by the tourney to the college coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

We do have it both ways, dingus. Summer is set up by grade for scouting ease. HS is HS, because it is HS, and your HS is putting a team together for the sole purpose of playing other HS's in the HS divisions, in which the other HS's participate.

With the new recruiting rules, it doesn't make sense any more to have the class-based team divisions - talent can be evaluated based upon the play seen and the details on grade for any player is readily available to the coaches as provided by the tourney to the college coaches.

Oy vey. Firstly, I said scouting, which I believe you think is the same as recruiting (you probably should have done an extra year, or "held back" for educational purposes, if that is the case). Please explain how any coach would scout universal mixed HS teams with any relevance during Summer ball? Tell me how a coach looking to finish his 2020 board would remotely be able to scout in this manner, assuming he lives on the 24 hour per day clock like the rest of us humans? So instead of watching games over a weekend, for example, at NLF or Crabfeast, where many of the best within one class are playing - you would like for the coach to spend all Summer tracking down teams with 1,2,3 of these kids at a time playing on a mixed HS team, and after watching about 75 games, still not have us much 2020 data as you did during one playoff in one weekend at the aforementioned events? Same question for a coach looking to start a 2021 board, how would that work? It wouldn't. There is a reason it is set up as it is, which is scouting, followed by recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Id like to see the Crabs, FCA, Looneys play without their holdback. 2019s pretending to be 2020s is a joke.

Crush has holdbacks. Pot meet kettle.

Turtles are the best team ever. Crush nowhere close to the star power and certainly not the depth of that powerhouse team. Everyone got recruited on that team. Won't be the case for Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

This is a typical response from a FCA parent/fan. Lets take credit for everything and anything and give no credit to the ones that deserve credit. In case you don't know, Looney's and Crabs were also in a tight close game, the same type of game that FCA/Crust had. Sure, it is hot and difficult to play multiple games on the same day, especially against top teams but lets not grab for things that you don't deserve. These three teams can beat each other on any given day, depends on how the team is meshing, working together. Any team can be a little off center on any given day, happens in every sport and every level, but to make the statement you made that FCA/Crush were so exhausted from their game that it was a cakewalk for Looney's to win. FCA and Crabs has the largest number of holdbacks than any other top 5 2020 team. Crabs was at one point the leader in this field but Bryan at FCA quickly changed that. He is one person not to be trusted, have seen him lie to people in their face and then deny he ever said that. I know that man very well and he is far from my favorite human being. Pleasant to you face, but do not turn your back. I learned this when my son played for Crabs and then went to FCA. The sad part is he is still playing for FCA but far from happy/Won't go back to Crabs and Looney's not interested.
But there is still one thing Crabs still holds the title to, the oldest holdback on any 2020 team. Plays for Gilman, a 17 (now) year old rising sophomore. Right Billy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

My son is on a top team and played varsity, and I am (as is he) still sick of hold backs who need to be older just to compete. Worse still are parents of hold backs who think their son will actually play in college, who think being recruited is the end. It is just a beginning. Without the age benefit, your average hold back will not see the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

While I agree on one hand that arguing about holdbacks for HS grade teams is somewhat overdone, on the other hand, why even bother having the 2020, 2019, and 2018 divisions then? If it truly doesn't matter, there is no reason to break them up - there should just be a bunch of "HS" divisions by ability, maybe an A, B, and C class to allow for similar scheduling/logistics. Grade/age would be a non-issue - you put a team together of 15 - 18 YOs, and enter them into the appropriate level they can play at. If you argue against complaining about holdbacks but you want grade-based HS divisions, you are talking out both sides of your mouth - you can't have it both ways.

We do have it both ways, dingus. Summer is set up by grade for scouting ease. HS is HS, because it is HS, and your HS is putting a team together for the sole purpose of playing other HS's in the HS divisions, in which the other HS's participate.

With the new recruiting rules, it doesn't make sense any more to have the class-based team divisions - talent can be evaluated based upon the play seen and the details on grade for any player is readily available to the coaches as provided by the tourney to the college coaches.

Oy vey. Firstly, I said scouting, which I believe you think is the same as recruiting (you probably should have done an extra year, or "held back" for educational purposes, if that is the case). Please explain how any coach would scout universal mixed HS teams with any relevance during Summer ball? Tell me how a coach looking to finish his 2020 board would remotely be able to scout in this manner, assuming he lives on the 24 hour per day clock like the rest of us humans? So instead of watching games over a weekend, for example, at NLF or Crabfeast, where many of the best within one class are playing - you would like for the coach to spend all Summer tracking down teams with 1,2,3 of these kids at a time playing on a mixed HS team, and after watching about 75 games, still not have us much 2020 data as you did during one playoff in one weekend at the aforementioned events? Same question for a coach looking to start a 2021 board, how would that work? It wouldn't. There is a reason it is set up as it is, which is scouting, followed by recruiting.

<yawn>

Ivy baby .. there is always community college for your boy

17 years old in the 9th grade. SMH. All those kids made varsity because they are not really freshman. Are you that dense? If my kids played two years down they would be unstoppable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

My son is on a top team and played varsity, and I am (as is he) still sick of hold backs who need to be older just to compete. Worse still are parents of hold backs who think their son will actually play in college, who think being recruited is the end. It is just a beginning. Without the age benefit, your average hold back will not see the field.

The end game is recruiting, not playing time. Playing time is great, but if your son gets into a great school because of lacrosse and never plays a minute that's fine. Remember pro lacrosse pays enough to gas up the car.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Son plays for FCA we played Crush was a super game both teams competed their tails off. Nice thing was as heated as the game was the boys as well as the coaches were fabulous to one another. Obviously these two teams have many committed boys all going to school together. Coach Kelly and Coach Spalina are also very friendly, The turning point of the game was an apparent helmet shot called against FCA that gave Crush a locked in man up with a one goal lead that quickly went to three. Our boys battled back scoring two in the final minute the last with a few seconds left. Was an absolute heavy weight battle i personally was not suprised Looneys beat Crush because FCA and Crush were toast after that game my true feeling with a fresh squad crush and FCA beat Looneys by a few. Congrats to all on a great weekend especially Looneys!

This is a typical response from a FCA parent/fan. Lets take credit for everything and anything and give no credit to the ones that deserve credit. In case you don't know, Looney's and Crabs were also in a tight close game, the same type of game that FCA/Crust had. Sure, it is hot and difficult to play multiple games on the same day, especially against top teams but lets not grab for things that you don't deserve. These three teams can beat each other on any given day, depends on how the team is meshing, working together. Any team can be a little off center on any given day, happens in every sport and every level, but to make the statement you made that FCA/Crush were so exhausted from their game that it was a cakewalk for Looney's to win. FCA and Crabs has the largest number of holdbacks than any other top 5 2020 team. Crabs was at one point the leader in this field but Bryan at FCA quickly changed that. He is one person not to be trusted, have seen him lie to people in their face and then deny he ever said that. I know that man very well and he is far from my favorite human being. Pleasant to you face, but do not turn your back. I learned this when my son played for Crabs and then went to FCA. The sad part is he is still playing for FCA but far from happy/Won't go back to Crabs and Looney's not interested.
But there is still one thing Crabs still holds the title to, the oldest holdback on any 2020 team. Plays for Gilman, a 17 (now) year old rising sophomore. Right Billy?

That escalated quickly! Sh&t getting personal now!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

My son is on a top team and played varsity, and I am (as is he) still sick of hold backs who need to be older just to compete. Worse still are parents of hold backs who think their son will actually play in college, who think being recruited is the end. It is just a beginning. Without the age benefit, your average hold back will not see the field.

thank you

Despite the uncanny ability of holdback complainers to hold on so tightly to a position, would any single one of their players get better at lacrosse if they went by birth-year-buddies system tomorrow? In spite of their own argument, a couple hold backs forced up would actually get better, their own kids' bracket would get diluted, and their own development would systematically slow down. Once diluted, younger better kids would move up from below, and they would quickly realize the really good kids one year behind are really freakin good too! What then? No playing up? Birth-year-buddies for life!

x2. If you held your child back (19,20) and they are not already committed, the game is up. My son played MIAA varsity as an on age freshman this season. Things were awkward with the uncommitted holdbacks then, and they are getting even more awkward as the summer progresses. He is on the field as a 14 year old playing with 16 year olds. The 16 year olds stand out a bit, but they won't in 18 months when it matters. That $30k you dropped would have covered a semester at the London School of Economics.

heres a new idea, STFU

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Despite the uncanny ability of holdback complainers to hold on so tightly to a position, would any single one of their players get better at lacrosse if they went by birth-year-buddies system tomorrow? In spite of their own argument, a couple hold backs forced up would actually get better, their own kids' bracket would get diluted, and their own development would systematically slow down. Once diluted, younger better kids would move up from below, and they would quickly realize the really good kids one year behind are really freakin good too! What then? No playing up? Birth-year-buddies for life!

Once again you argue from the (weak) position that by playing down you are somehow doing the rest of us a favor and helping us get better. Ok then, following your logic, by playing down, against easier competition, aren't your kids then getting..worse? This dilution talk is just a red herring. It's not about any one single player getting better, it's about all players being compared to their actual peers, unless being compared to smaller, slower, weaker kids is the only way your kid can stand out.

#walkedrightintothatone

Ty Xander's should start posting DOB when he sucks up to fat crabs players in recruiting rundown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Despite the uncanny ability of holdback complainers to hold on so tightly to a position, would any single one of their players get better at lacrosse if they went by birth-year-buddies system tomorrow? In spite of their own argument, a couple hold backs forced up would actually get better, their own kids' bracket would get diluted, and their own development would systematically slow down. Once diluted, younger better kids would move up from below, and they would quickly realize the really good kids one year behind are really freakin good too! What then? No playing up? Birth-year-buddies for life!

Once again you argue from the (weak) position that by playing down you are somehow doing the rest of us a favor and helping us get better. Ok then, following your logic, by playing down, against easier competition, aren't your kids then getting..worse? This dilution talk is just a red herring. It's not about any one single player getting better, it's about all players being compared to their actual peers, unless being compared to smaller, slower, weaker kids is the only way your kid can stand out.

#walkedrightintothatone

I said the hold backs would get better if they moved up.
#didntread
#youragendaornoagenda

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

My son is on a top team and played varsity, and I am (as is he) still sick of hold backs who need to be older just to compete. Worse still are parents of hold backs who think their son will actually play in college, who think being recruited is the end. It is just a beginning. Without the age benefit, your average hold back will not see the field.

The end game is recruiting, not playing time. Playing time is great, but if your son gets into a great school because of lacrosse and never plays a minute that's fine. Remember pro lacrosse pays enough to gas up the car.

Ok, if that's what you want for your kid. I don't know why one shouldn't be trying to get a great education and actually play. Those are people who are special and will be successful in life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

heres a new idea, STFU

Why don't you make me, tough guy. Just sit your visor-wearing, tank top-sporting, jean shorts-rocking self down and have another Busch Light. Then climb back in your IROC and head back to your car port.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Despite the uncanny ability of holdback complainers to hold on so tightly to a position, would any single one of their players get better at lacrosse if they went by birth-year-buddies system tomorrow? In spite of their own argument, a couple hold backs forced up would actually get better, their own kids' bracket would get diluted, and their own development would systematically slow down. Once diluted, younger better kids would move up from below, and they would quickly realize the really good kids one year behind are really freakin good too! What then? No playing up? Birth-year-buddies for life!

Once again you argue from the (weak) position that by playing down you are somehow doing the rest of us a favor and helping us get better. Ok then, following your logic, by playing down, against easier competition, aren't your kids then getting..worse? This dilution talk is just a red herring. It's not about any one single player getting better, it's about all players being compared to their actual peers, unless being compared to smaller, slower, weaker kids is the only way your kid can stand out.

#walkedrightintothatone

I said the hold backs would get better if they moved up.
#didntread
#youragendaornoagenda

Yes, everybody knows that, yet you do the opposite, sad. That's your only counterpoint?

Wanting a level playing field is not an agenda, I think most would agree it's a pretty reasonable expectation. The whole premise of sport is fair competition, not a difficult concept. You seek to subvert all of that and browbeat those who call you on it...now that's an agenda.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

My son is on a top team and played varsity, and I am (as is he) still sick of hold backs who need to be older just to compete. Worse still are parents of hold backs who think their son will actually play in college, who think being recruited is the end. It is just a beginning. Without the age benefit, your average hold back will not see the field.

The end game is recruiting, not playing time. Playing time is great, but if your son gets into a great school because of lacrosse and never plays a minute that's fine. Remember pro lacrosse pays enough to gas up the car.

Ok, if that's what you want for your kid. I don't know why one shouldn't be trying to get a great education and actually play. Those are people who are special and will be successful in life.

Best quote ever! These people are so desperate to say their kid went D1 they'll do anything. Son was recently at a committed camp, friend's roommate was already 20. Held back and PG'd to get into a top 30-35 D1 Lax school with a good academic ranking. Another kid already had a receding hairline. Have no idea how old he was. I just don't get it. Could have gone on age and probably made a great D3 team with a great academic rating. The kid would be graduating in two years and probably have played a lot. Now the kid will probably be 25 before he hits the real world. If god forbid he gets hurt, then he redshirts and graduates at 26? To what end? What did you win? What did the kid win? At 26 you should be looking to advance in your career, start a business, buy a house, finish grad school. What are these people thinking?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

My son is on a top team and played varsity, and I am (as is he) still sick of hold backs who need to be older just to compete. Worse still are parents of hold backs who think their son will actually play in college, who think being recruited is the end. It is just a beginning. Without the age benefit, your average hold back will not see the field.

The end game is recruiting, not playing time. Playing time is great, but if your son gets into a great school because of lacrosse and never plays a minute that's fine. Remember pro lacrosse pays enough to gas up the car.

Ok, if that's what you want for your kid. I don't know why one shouldn't be trying to get a great education and actually play. Those are people who are special and will be successful in life.

Best quote ever! These people are so desperate to say their kid went D1 they'll do anything. Son was recently at a committed camp, friend's roommate was already 20. Held back and PG'd to get into a top 30-35 D1 Lax school with a good academic ranking. Another kid already had a receding hairline. Have no idea how old he was. I just don't get it. Could have gone on age and probably made a great D3 team with a great academic rating. The kid would be graduating in two years and probably have played a lot. Now the kid will probably be 25 before he hits the real world. If god forbid he gets hurt, then he redshirts and graduates at 26? To what end? What did you win? What did the kid win? At 26 you should be looking to advance in your career, start a business, buy a house, finish grad school. What are these people thinking?

Then there's us, living the dream, at work checking and commenting on an anonymous lax forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

heres a new idea, STFU

Why don't you make me, tough guy. Just sit your visor-wearing, tank top-sporting, jean shorts-rocking self down and have another Busch Light. Then climb back in your IROC and head back to your car port.

I'm so tired of people shedding car ports in a negative light.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Despite the uncanny ability of holdback complainers to hold on so tightly to a position, would any single one of their players get better at lacrosse if they went by birth-year-buddies system tomorrow? In spite of their own argument, a couple hold backs forced up would actually get better, their own kids' bracket would get diluted, and their own development would systematically slow down. Once diluted, younger better kids would move up from below, and they would quickly realize the really good kids one year behind are really freakin good too! What then? No playing up? Birth-year-buddies for life!

Once again you argue from the (weak) position that by playing down you are somehow doing the rest of us a favor and helping us get better. Ok then, following your logic, by playing down, against easier competition, aren't your kids then getting..worse? This dilution talk is just a red herring. It's not about any one single player getting better, it's about all players being compared to their actual peers, unless being compared to smaller, slower, weaker kids is the only way your kid can stand out.

#walkedrightintothatone

I said the hold backs would get better if they moved up.
#didntread
#youragendaornoagenda

Yes, everybody knows that, yet you do the opposite, sad. That's your only counterpoint?

Wanting a level playing field is not an agenda, I think most would agree it's a pretty reasonable expectation. The whole premise of sport is fair competition, not a difficult concept. You seek to subvert all of that and browbeat those who call you on it...now that's an agenda.

What's not fair about pairing talent in a private club based on skill, within an age range that closely emulates the hs experience? Seems fair to me, since you have to sign up for exactly what is being advertised. It is developmental and preparatory. What are you trying to accomplish, fair play based on birth year? Cool, go do that, it's called rec. I loved rec, played and coached rec for years, great building blocks, great memories. Why should that model follow a more advanced preparatory private league? You just want very expensive rec ball? You should start a very expensive rec league, free country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how the dads of avg club players on avg club teams are still whining about holdbacks when most of the kids on the clubs mentioned above played varsity as freshman (against much older players) and are committed to top schools..

My son is on a top team and played varsity, and I am (as is he) still sick of hold backs who need to be older just to compete. Worse still are parents of hold backs who think their son will actually play in college, who think being recruited is the end. It is just a beginning. Without the age benefit, your average hold back will not see the field.

The end game is recruiting, not playing time. Playing time is great, but if your son gets into a great school because of lacrosse and never plays a minute that's fine. Remember pro lacrosse pays enough to gas up the car.

Ok, if that's what you want for your kid. I don't know why one shouldn't be trying to get a great education and actually play. Those are people who are special and will be successful in life.

Best quote ever! These people are so desperate to say their kid went D1 they'll do anything. Son was recently at a committed camp, friend's roommate was already 20. Held back and PG'd to get into a top 30-35 D1 Lax school with a good academic ranking. Another kid already had a receding hairline. Have no idea how old he was. I just don't get it. Could have gone on age and probably made a great D3 team with a great academic rating. The kid would be graduating in two years and probably have played a lot. Now the kid will probably be 25 before he hits the real world. If god forbid he gets hurt, then he redshirts and graduates at 26? To what end? What did you win? What did the kid win? At 26 you should be looking to advance in your career, start a business, buy a house, finish grad school. What are these people thinking?

They are thinking how nice it will be to say at cocktail parties that Ashton has committed to play lacrosse at Marist, need to justify 14 years of private school tuition somehow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Despite the uncanny ability of holdback complainers to hold on so tightly to a position, would any single one of their players get better at lacrosse if they went by birth-year-buddies system tomorrow? In spite of their own argument, a couple hold backs forced up would actually get better, their own kids' bracket would get diluted, and their own development would systematically slow down. Once diluted, younger better kids would move up from below, and they would quickly realize the really good kids one year behind are really freakin good too! What then? No playing up? Birth-year-buddies for life!

Once again you argue from the (weak) position that by playing down you are somehow doing the rest of us a favor and helping us get better. Ok then, following your logic, by playing down, against easier competition, aren't your kids then getting..worse? This dilution talk is just a red herring. It's not about any one single player getting better, it's about all players being compared to their actual peers, unless being compared to smaller, slower, weaker kids is the only way your kid can stand out.

#walkedrightintothatone

I said the hold backs would get better if they moved up.
#didntread
#youragendaornoagenda

Yes, everybody knows that, yet you do the opposite, sad. That's your only counterpoint?

Wanting a level playing field is not an agenda, I think most would agree it's a pretty reasonable expectation. The whole premise of sport is fair competition, not a difficult concept. You seek to subvert all of that and browbeat those who call you on it...now that's an agenda.

What's not fair about pairing talent in a private club based on skill, within an age range that closely emulates the hs experience? Seems fair to me, since you have to sign up for exactly what is being advertised. It is developmental and preparatory. What are you trying to accomplish, fair play based on birth year? Cool, go do that, it's called rec. I loved rec, played and coached rec for years, great building blocks, great memories. Why should that model follow a more advanced preparatory private league? You just want very expensive rec ball? You should start a very expensive rec league, free country.

So holdbacks play down because that's the appropriate talent level for them? Ok, I'm good with that. Supports what we've been saying all along, Talented players play up, other kids have to find another way to look talented.

Club is not about emulating the HS experience. You don't see upper classmen playing on JV teams...not allowed.

It's about developing advanced skills, strong competition, and providing a vehicle for kids to be evaluated and recruited. Holdbacks don't want competition, they want to 'look' good. Part of the recruiting evaluation is physical maturity, Holdbacks gaming the system there.

#nolegtostandon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Despite the uncanny ability of holdback complainers to hold on so tightly to a position, would any single one of their players get better at lacrosse if they went by birth-year-buddies system tomorrow? In spite of their own argument, a couple hold backs forced up would actually get better, their own kids' bracket would get diluted, and their own development would systematically slow down. Once diluted, younger better kids would move up from below, and they would quickly realize the really good kids one year behind are really freakin good too! What then? No playing up? Birth-year-buddies for life!

Once again you argue from the (weak) position that by playing down you are somehow doing the rest of us a favor and helping us get better. Ok then, following your logic, by playing down, against easier competition, aren't your kids then getting..worse? This dilution talk is just a red herring. It's not about any one single player getting better, it's about all players being compared to their actual peers, unless being compared to smaller, slower, weaker kids is the only way your kid can stand out.

#walkedrightintothatone

I said the hold backs would get better if they moved up.
#didntread
#youragendaornoagenda

Yes, everybody knows that, yet you do the opposite, sad. That's your only counterpoint?

Wanting a level playing field is not an agenda, I think most would agree it's a pretty reasonable expectation. The whole premise of sport is fair competition, not a difficult concept. You seek to subvert all of that and browbeat those who call you on it...now that's an agenda.

Level playing field costs about $100 and is right down the street.
The $2,000 playing field is a little harder, and don't feel obliged to participate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Despite the uncanny ability of holdback complainers to hold on so tightly to a position, would any single one of their players get better at lacrosse if they went by birth-year-buddies system tomorrow? In spite of their own argument, a couple hold backs forced up would actually get better, their own kids' bracket would get diluted, and their own development would systematically slow down. Once diluted, younger better kids would move up from below, and they would quickly realize the really good kids one year behind are really freakin good too! What then? No playing up? Birth-year-buddies for life!

Once again you argue from the (weak) position that by playing down you are somehow doing the rest of us a favor and helping us get better. Ok then, following your logic, by playing down, against easier competition, aren't your kids then getting..worse? This dilution talk is just a red herring. It's not about any one single player getting better, it's about all players being compared to their actual peers, unless being compared to smaller, slower, weaker kids is the only way your kid can stand out.

#walkedrightintothatone

I said the hold backs would get better if they moved up.
#didntread
#youragendaornoagenda

Yes, everybody knows that, yet you do the opposite, sad. That's your only counterpoint?

Wanting a level playing field is not an agenda, I think most would agree it's a pretty reasonable expectation. The whole premise of sport is fair competition, not a difficult concept. You seek to subvert all of that and browbeat those who call you on it...now that's an agenda.

Level playing field costs about $100 and is right down the street.
The $2,000 playing field is a little harder, and don't feel obliged to participate.

Harder for whom? Certainly not the holdbacks who depend on the fact that it's easier. Kind of silly to lecture the parents who's kids actually are on the harder path.

You keep talking about competition, getting better, blah blah blah, but you do the exact opposite.

What's not fair about pairing talent in a private club based on skill, within an age range that closely emulates the hs experience? Seems fair to me, since you have to sign up for exactly what is being advertised. It is developmental and preparatory. What are you trying to accomplish, fair play based on birth year? Cool, go do that, it's called rec. I loved rec, played and coached rec for years, great building blocks, great memories. Why should that model follow a more advanced preparatory private league? You just want very expensive rec ball? You should start a very expensive rec league, free country. [/quote]

So holdbacks play down because that's the appropriate talent level for them? Ok, I'm good with that. Supports what we've been saying all along, Talented players play up, other kids have to find another way to look talented.

Club is not about emulating the HS experience. You don't see upper classmen playing on JV teams...not allowed.

It's about developing advanced skills, strong competition, and providing a vehicle for kids to be evaluated and recruited. Holdbacks don't want competition, they want to 'look' good. Part of the recruiting evaluation is physical maturity, Holdbacks gaming the system there.

#nolegtostandon[/quote]

Wait, my kid's school recommended he do prefirst, it's actually part of the curriculum, unless you get permission to skip (he was 6, hadn't started lacrosse yet). He's in 4th grade now. Should he sign up for 5th grade lacrosse? They didn't ask age, there was a grade box to fill in? Pretty sure like 90% of the kids at tryouts were private school kids, many are from his school, they are all in his grade. All of his 4th grade classmates seem to be signing up for 4th grade for some reason. Can you help, this is so confusing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's not fair about pairing talent in a private club based on skill, within an age range that closely emulates the hs experience? Seems fair to me, since you have to sign up for exactly what is being advertised. It is developmental and preparatory. What are you trying to accomplish, fair play based on birth year? Cool, go do that, it's called rec. I loved rec, played and coached rec for years, great building blocks, great memories. Why should that model follow a more advanced preparatory private league? You just want very expensive rec ball? You should start a very expensive rec league, free country.

So holdbacks play down because that's the appropriate talent level for them? Ok, I'm good with that. Supports what we've been saying all along, Talented players play up, other kids have to find another way to look talented.

Club is not about emulating the HS experience. You don't see upper classmen playing on JV teams...not allowed.

It's about developing advanced skills, strong competition, and providing a vehicle for kids to be evaluated and recruited. Holdbacks don't want competition, they want to 'look' good. Part of the recruiting evaluation is physical maturity, Holdbacks gaming the system there.

#nolegtostandon[/quote]

Wait, my kid's school recommended he do prefirst, it's actually part of the curriculum, unless you get permission to skip (he was 6, hadn't started lacrosse yet). He's in 4th grade now. Should he sign up for 5th grade lacrosse? They didn't ask age, there was a grade box to fill in? Pretty sure like 90% of the kids at tryouts were private school kids, many are from his school, they are all in his grade. All of his 4th grade classmates seem to be signing up for 4th grade for some reason. Can you help, this is so confusing.

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Your condescending tone and sarcastic approach are consistent with the holdback/double holdback parent. Another 20 year old freshman in the making.

my house in Bermuda has a car port. I keep my boat there when not in use.

Wait, my kid's school recommended he do prefirst, it's actually part of the curriculum, unless you get permission to skip (he was 6, hadn't started lacrosse yet). He's in 4th grade now. Should he sign up for 5th grade lacrosse? They didn't ask age, there was a grade box to fill in? Pretty sure like 90% of the kids at tryouts were private school kids, many are from his school, they are all in his grade. All of his 4th grade classmates seem to be signing up for 4th grade for some reason. Can you help, this is so confusing.

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Your condescending tone and sarcastic approach are consistent with the holdback/double holdback parent. Another 20 year old freshman in the making.[/quote]

OOOH, let's throw double hold back in there to make it sound nefarious. Dude, are you serious, you think every private school and every prefirst program participant are thinking about sports! How about education system evolving, unlike the third world government system! Oh well, tryouts are being advertised, looks like another year of the successful and growing grade based private club system. See you later.

bet the 20 year old freshman plays ahead of your 19 year old freshman...

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

[quote=Anonymous]bet the 20 year old freshman plays ahead of your 19 year old freshman...[/quote

I'd take that bet. But more importantly, I bet the 19 year old will be a better hire in the future. I like to hire people who earned a position with hard work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

In my area, it is very common for public school kids to repeat if they transfer into private, even if they don't play a sport. Public school education is basically third world. I get your argument as it pertains to grade-based youth sports, but the smart ones just continue to play up, and then in HS you just play your grade. You worry about yourself, not what some public school parents think about your educational path. Because private school kids have no track record of success in college ball, right? College ball is all public school kids. Yup, you got us there, dude, I got nothing..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait, my kid's school recommended he do prefirst, it's actually part of the curriculum, unless you get permission to skip (he was 6, hadn't started lacrosse yet). He's in 4th grade now. Should he sign up for 5th grade lacrosse? They didn't ask age, there was a grade box to fill in? Pretty sure like 90% of the kids at tryouts were private school kids, many are from his school, they are all in his grade. All of his 4th grade classmates seem to be signing up for 4th grade for some reason. Can you help, this is so confusing.

Your condescending tone and sarcastic approach are consistent with the holdback/double holdback parent. Another 20 year old freshman in the making.[/quote]

OOOH, let's throw double hold back in there to make it sound nefarious. Dude, are you serious, you think every private school and every prefirst program participant are thinking about sports! How about education system evolving, unlike the third world government system! Oh well, tryouts are being advertised, looks like another year of the successful and growing grade based private club system. See you later.
[/quote]

it's actually very simple, he should sign up for the correct age as recommended by US lacrosse. Unless there's something wrong with him he will make friends on an age appropriate team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait, my kid's school recommended he do prefirst, it's actually part of the curriculum, unless you get permission to skip (he was 6, hadn't started lacrosse yet). He's in 4th grade now. Should he sign up for 5th grade lacrosse? They didn't ask age, there was a grade box to fill in? Pretty sure like 90% of the kids at tryouts were private school kids, many are from his school, they are all in his grade. All of his 4th grade classmates seem to be signing up for 4th grade for some reason. Can you help, this is so confusing.

Your condescending tone and sarcastic approach are consistent with the holdback/double holdback parent. Another 20 year old freshman in the making.

OOOH, let's throw double hold back in there to make it sound nefarious. Dude, are you serious, you think every private school and every prefirst program participant are thinking about sports! How about education system evolving, unlike the third world government system! Oh well, tryouts are being advertised, looks like another year of the successful and growing grade based private club system. See you later.
[/quote]

it's actually very simple, he should sign up for the correct age as recommended by US lacrosse. Unless there's something wrong with him he will make friends on an age appropriate team. [/quote]

No, he should sign up however the league has it set up, tell them to follow the US lax guidelines. Your argument is with the rules, not some 9,10,11 year old kid that doesn't even understand why he's getting the stink eye from some 40 year old parent. You get 50 private school kids at tryouts, there isn't going to be some unwritten public school parent rule that they can be expected to follow. All that being said, sure, playing up is a great way to get better under the current rules, but not a mandate because you say so. Argue with the league, not the participants.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait, my kid's school recommended he do prefirst, it's actually part of the curriculum, unless you get permission to skip (he was 6, hadn't started lacrosse yet). He's in 4th grade now. Should he sign up for 5th grade lacrosse? They didn't ask age, there was a grade box to fill in? Pretty sure like 90% of the kids at tryouts were private school kids, many are from his school, they are all in his grade. All of his 4th grade classmates seem to be signing up for 4th grade for some reason. Can you help, this is so confusing.

Your condescending tone and sarcastic approach are consistent with the holdback/double holdback parent. Another 20 year old freshman in the making.

OOOH, let's throw double hold back in there to make it sound nefarious. Dude, are you serious, you think every private school and every prefirst program participant are thinking about sports! How about education system evolving, unlike the third world government system! Oh well, tryouts are being advertised, looks like another year of the successful and growing grade based private club system. See you later.
[/quote]

it's actually very simple, he should sign up for the correct age as recommended by US lacrosse. Unless there's something wrong with him he will make friends on an age appropriate team. [/quote]

You need to find an age-appropriate activity, then maybe you will meet some friends.

Crush scared to play at Crabfeast. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush scared to play at Crabfeast. Sad.

Crush hasn't gone there in four years. As stated Predictions ?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait, my kid's school recommended he do prefirst, it's actually part of the curriculum, unless you get permission to skip (he was 6, hadn't started lacrosse yet). He's in 4th grade now. Should he sign up for 5th grade lacrosse? They didn't ask age, there was a grade box to fill in? Pretty sure like 90% of the kids at tryouts were private school kids, many are from his school, they are all in his grade. All of his 4th grade classmates seem to be signing up for 4th grade for some reason. Can you help, this is so confusing.

Your condescending tone and sarcastic approach are consistent with the holdback/double holdback parent. Another 20 year old freshman in the making.

OOOH, let's throw double hold back in there to make it sound nefarious. Dude, are you serious, you think every private school and every prefirst program participant are thinking about sports! How about education system evolving, unlike the third world government system! Oh well, tryouts are being advertised, looks like another year of the successful and growing grade based private club system. See you later.

it's actually very simple, he should sign up for the correct age as recommended by US lacrosse. Unless there's something wrong with him he will make friends on an age appropriate team. [/quote]

You need to find an age-appropriate activity, then maybe you will meet some friends.[/quote]

So there's something wrong with him, sorry I didn't know.....

Is edge actually going to show up this weekend?

I've learned that fighting the holdback debacle is a never win debate. In the end the great players will be great and the average will remain average despite one or two years of holding back. You can't buy talent and it will all play out the way it is supposed to in the end. My older sons 20 year old freshman teammates who were HS studs are now standing on the sidelines.

Anyone know anything about the Eite 120 event being held today in Baltimore?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

In my area, it is very common for public school kids to repeat if they transfer into private, even if they don't play a sport. Public school education is basically third world. I get your argument as it pertains to grade-based youth sports, but the smart ones just continue to play up, and then in HS you just play your grade. You worry about yourself, not what some public school parents think about your educational path. Because private school kids have no track record of success in college ball, right? College ball is all public school kids. Yup, you got us there, dude, I got nothing..

Maybe where you are from the public schools are lacking but we have reviewed the objective real life data in our area and public are generally superior in the academic course offerings at higher levels because private schools can not scale to that level, SAT scores are comparable and in many cases higher, college admittance and retention is comparable (not just admittance as little Johnny has to work and fit in once accepted) for the top 1/3 of most public schools (outside of inner cities). Not to mention that they are not filled with individuals such as yourself making sweeping statements with no basis. If your kid can not be in the top 2/3 academically in a public school than the private school small class size and hand holding are the best thing for them. There are a myriad of other intangibles that make one a better choice over the other but academics is not necessarily one of them. Please do some research.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know anything about the Eite 120 event being held today in Baltimore?

A list controlled by RM and his inner circle. No chance of anyone outside of his political circle attending as he controls entrance for anything in the Baltimore area NLF related and he is a protective sort. More of the same. Anyone can call themselves the "Elite".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is edge actually going to show up this weekend?

Last we heard they were planning to "bring it".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

In my area, it is very common for public school kids to repeat if they transfer into private, even if they don't play a sport. Public school education is basically third world. I get your argument as it pertains to grade-based youth sports, but the smart ones just continue to play up, and then in HS you just play your grade. You worry about yourself, not what some public school parents think about your educational path. Because private school kids have no track record of success in college ball, right? College ball is all public school kids. Yup, you got us there, dude, I got nothing..

Maybe where you are from the public schools are lacking but we have reviewed the objective real life data in our area and public are generally superior in the academic course offerings at higher levels because private schools can not scale to that level, SAT scores are comparable and in many cases higher, college admittance and retention is comparable (not just admittance as little Johnny has to work and fit in once accepted) for the top 1/3 of most public schools (outside of inner cities). Not to mention that they are not filled with individuals such as yourself making sweeping statements with no basis. If your kid can not be in the top 2/3 academically in a public school than the private school small class size and hand holding are the best thing for them. There are a myriad of other intangibles that make one a better choice over the other but academics is not necessarily one of them. Please do some research.

So you are just a world class cheapskate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is edge actually going to show up this weekend?

Last we heard they were planning to "bring it".

They were not good last week. Watched a game and they didn't win a draw

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is edge actually going to show up this weekend?

Last we heard they were planning to "bring it".

They were not good last week. Watched a game and they didn't win a draw

Isn't the fogo going to Hopkins?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

In my area, it is very common for public school kids to repeat if they transfer into private, even if they don't play a sport. Public school education is basically third world. I get your argument as it pertains to grade-based youth sports, but the smart ones just continue to play up, and then in HS you just play your grade. You worry about yourself, not what some public school parents think about your educational path. Because private school kids have no track record of success in college ball, right? College ball is all public school kids. Yup, you got us there, dude, I got nothing..

Maybe where you are from the public schools are lacking but we have reviewed the objective real life data in our area and public are generally superior in the academic course offerings at higher levels because private schools can not scale to that level, SAT scores are comparable and in many cases higher, college admittance and retention is comparable (not just admittance as little Johnny has to work and fit in once accepted) for the top 1/3 of most public schools (outside of inner cities). Not to mention that they are not filled with individuals such as yourself making sweeping statements with no basis. If your kid can not be in the top 2/3 academically in a public school than the private school small class size and hand holding are the best thing for them. There are a myriad of other intangibles that make one a better choice over the other but academics is not necessarily one of them. Please do some research.

So you are just a world class cheapskate.

wow are you bad at this! nowhere was money mentioned but since you can't think of anything else just pull an insult out of your .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

In my area, it is very common for public school kids to repeat if they transfer into private, even if they don't play a sport. Public school education is basically third world. I get your argument as it pertains to grade-based youth sports, but the smart ones just continue to play up, and then in HS you just play your grade. You worry about yourself, not what some public school parents think about your educational path. Because private school kids have no track record of success in college ball, right? College ball is all public school kids. Yup, you got us there, dude, I got nothing..

Maybe where you are from the public schools are lacking but we have reviewed the objective real life data in our area and public are generally superior in the academic course offerings at higher levels because private schools can not scale to that level, SAT scores are comparable and in many cases higher, college admittance and retention is comparable (not just admittance as little Johnny has to work and fit in once accepted) for the top 1/3 of most public schools (outside of inner cities). Not to mention that they are not filled with individuals such as yourself making sweeping statements with no basis. If your kid can not be in the top 2/3 academically in a public school than the private school small class size and hand holding are the best thing for them. There are a myriad of other intangibles that make one a better choice over the other but academics is not necessarily one of them. Please do some research.

So you are just a world class cheapskate.

Are you seriously saying someone who chooses to send their kids to public schools on LI is a "cheapskate"??!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

In my area, it is very common for public school kids to repeat if they transfer into private, even if they don't play a sport. Public school education is basically third world. I get your argument as it pertains to grade-based youth sports, but the smart ones just continue to play up, and then in HS you just play your grade. You worry about yourself, not what some public school parents think about your educational path. Because private school kids have no track record of success in college ball, right? College ball is all public school kids. Yup, you got us there, dude, I got nothing..

Maybe where you are from the public schools are lacking but we have reviewed the objective real life data in our area and public are generally superior in the academic course offerings at higher levels because private schools can not scale to that level, SAT scores are comparable and in many cases higher, college admittance and retention is comparable (not just admittance as little Johnny has to work and fit in once accepted) for the top 1/3 of most public schools (outside of inner cities). Not to mention that they are not filled with individuals such as yourself making sweeping statements with no basis. If your kid can not be in the top 2/3 academically in a public school than the private school small class size and hand holding are the best thing for them. There are a myriad of other intangibles that make one a better choice over the other but academics is not necessarily one of them. Please do some research.

So you are just a world class cheapskate.

Are you seriously saying someone who chooses to send their kids to public schools on LI is a "cheapskate"??!

Says the guy who said the other kid must need his hand held.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

In my area, it is very common for public school kids to repeat if they transfer into private, even if they don't play a sport. Public school education is basically third world. I get your argument as it pertains to grade-based youth sports, but the smart ones just continue to play up, and then in HS you just play your grade. You worry about yourself, not what some public school parents think about your educational path. Because private school kids have no track record of success in college ball, right? College ball is all public school kids. Yup, you got us there, dude, I got nothing..

Maybe where you are from the public schools are lacking but we have reviewed the objective real life data in our area and public are generally superior in the academic course offerings at higher levels because private schools can not scale to that level, SAT scores are comparable and in many cases higher, college admittance and retention is comparable (not just admittance as little Johnny has to work and fit in once accepted) for the top 1/3 of most public schools (outside of inner cities). Not to mention that they are not filled with individuals such as yourself making sweeping statements with no basis. If your kid can not be in the top 2/3 academically in a public school than the private school small class size and hand holding are the best thing for them. There are a myriad of other intangibles that make one a better choice over the other but academics is not necessarily one of them. Please do some research.

So you are just a world class cheapskate.

On LI there are many factors, if one is from a top notch public there is no reason to go Private unless dad or big brother did. Some, yes some of the LI publics absolutely have better academics than the privates. but to each their own!

Can Not Believe fl$ Cancelled at 9am this morning. Weather is beautiful out right now.
Now 3 1/2 hour games sat. Bad,bad decision

I guess FL$ controls the weather, with the amount they charge they should be able to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is edge actually going to show up this weekend?

Last we heard they were planning to "bring it".

They were not good last week. Watched a game and they didn't win a draw

Isn't the fogo going to Hopkins?

He may think he is at this point, but if he doesn't pick the pace up, he won't be. Oh, that's right, Hopkins sucks right now, so never mind.

Serious question. Why would any team do the MVP tournament when Crabfeast is right down the road? What is the reasoning? Do teams just wan to win games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can Not Believe fl$ Cancelled at 9am this morning. Weather is beautiful out right now.
Now 3 1/2 hour games sat. Bad,bad decision

Manhasset/CSH/GC daddies probably told Doogie Hauser to call it off.

RM excludes some from Crabfeast...because it's all about the boys and growing the sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This holdback guy is chasing his tail and clearly never took a logic class in HS, or college, if he even attended. There is zero collective benefit to your playing your son down other than he is miserable in school and needs a second chance (valid) or you want him to look better vs. younger less mature competition. Spare us the argument of how its good for us, because it isn't while the kids are maturing. By the time they become jr.s your little/big johnny's advantage will be diminished. Just crawl back in your hole and keep your head down and hope you don't get called out and keep patting yourself on your back and saying "thanks" when everyone tells you how good your son looks because it is fleeting and ephemeral and you know it and the sad thing is, he probably knows it to and will require therapy at some point in his life for the false sense of confidence you enabled--great work.

In my area, it is very common for public school kids to repeat if they transfer into private, even if they don't play a sport. Public school education is basically third world. I get your argument as it pertains to grade-based youth sports, but the smart ones just continue to play up, and then in HS you just play your grade. You worry about yourself, not what some public school parents think about your educational path. Because private school kids have no track record of success in college ball, right? College ball is all public school kids. Yup, you got us there, dude, I got nothing..

Maybe where you are from the public schools are lacking but we have reviewed the objective real life data in our area and public are generally superior in the academic course offerings at higher levels because private schools can not scale to that level, SAT scores are comparable and in many cases higher, college admittance and retention is comparable (not just admittance as little Johnny has to work and fit in once accepted) for the top 1/3 of most public schools (outside of inner cities). Not to mention that they are not filled with individuals such as yourself making sweeping statements with no basis. If your kid can not be in the top 2/3 academically in a public school than the private school small class size and hand holding are the best thing for them. There are a myriad of other intangibles that make one a better choice over the other but academics is not necessarily one of them. Please do some research.

So you are just a world class cheapskate.

Are you seriously saying someone who chooses to send their kids to public schools on LI is a "cheapskate"??!

Says the guy who said the other kid must need his hand held.

I am not even party to that dumb discussion - I am just questioning that rediculous comment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Serious question. Why would any team do the MVP tournament when Crabfeast is right down the road? What is the reasoning? Do teams just wan to win games?

Their not there are like 8 - 2020 teams. Saw one coach at a 2021 game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can Not Believe fl$ Cancelled at 9am this morning. Weather is beautiful out right now.
Now 3 1/2 hour games sat. Bad,bad decision

Manhasset/CSH/GC daddies probably told Doogie Hauser to call it off.

Weather aint looking too good today either. Too bad

UCLA just offered a 2021 QB prospect, regardless how you feel about early recruiting , just another indication the game of lacrosse in totality highly influenced by jelaous and paranoid parents who get crazy when they feel their little baby is getting left out. Also another reason why it will take lacrosse many, many years to make it into the main stream.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UCLA just offered a 2021 QB prospect, regardless how you feel about early recruiting , just another indication the game of lacrosse in totality highly influenced by jelaous and paranoid parents who get crazy when they feel their little baby is getting left out. Also another reason why it will take lacrosse many, many years to make it into the main stream.

If football was like the crazy sport of lacrosse there would be 2,000 8th graders "committed" one 8th grader maybe realistic but that is not what happened with lacrosse. So happy that the lacrosse coaches got their acts together and have fixed the problem

Crabs go down to the Hawks in OT at Crabfeast!

Not sure who is worse, Lavar Ball or the faceoff kids father who plays for the 2020 Crabs. Dad can't stop bragging about how good his kid is but I watched his son lose to the Team (**) kid and get taken out of the game, then watched him get tuned up by the Fogo who plays for the Looney's and then watched him get tuned up by multiple other kids last week and this week. The father still insists his son beat everyone and is better than any 2019 and 2020 in the country.

I've personally never seen anything like it.

FCA will win Crabfeast by a large margin (IMO).

FCA beat Looney's 10-8.

Looney's Fogo and Goalie didn't play and that was the difference in the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA beat Looney's 10-8.

Looney's Fogo and Goalie didn't play and that was the difference in the game.

And the excuses begin. Great job FCA!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA beat Looney's 10-8.

Looney's Fogo and Goalie didn't play and that was the difference in the game.

Looks like the difference...was 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA beat Looney's 10-8.

Looney's Fogo and Goalie didn't play and that was the difference in the game.

And the excuses begin. Great job FCA!

I was at that game, my son plays for the Hawks but that is a fact, Looney's did not have their FOGO or their starting goalie and that had a big difference in the game. With those two players present the outcome could have been different. It was a good game, both teams played well and both are strong 2020's and are very well coached. As one poster above predicted FCA would win by a wide margin, 10-8 is not a wide margin. When these 2020's play each other the margin of victory is very small/narrow.

What is the average age of laxachusetts?
Kids look a lot older?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs go down to the Hawks in OT at Crabfeast!

Not sure who is worse, Lavar Ball or the faceoff kids father who plays for the 2020 Crabs. Dad can't stop bragging about how good his kid is but I watched his son lose to the Team (**) kid and get taken out of the game, then watched him get tuned up by the Fogo who plays for the Looney's and then watched him get tuned up by multiple other kids last week and this week. The father still insists his son beat everyone and is better than any 2019 and 2020 in the country.

I've personally never seen anything like it.

FCA will win Crabfeast by a large margin (IMO).

Crabby parents were losing their minds when they were down 5-0 to Freedom! They got some good old home cooking from the refs in the second half to win in the last second 7-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the average age of laxachusetts?
Kids look a lot older?

Look older than who? They are not nearly as old as Crab, Looneys or FCA. To be honest, they actually looked a little undersized to me. They can play though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the average age of laxachusetts?
Kids look a lot older?

Look older than who? They are not nearly as old as Crab, Looneys or FCA. To be honest, they actually looked a little undersized to me. They can play though

laxachusetts was much smaller in size than FCA. In fact, the announcers commented on that fact during the live stream. What they failed to comment on was that the reason for much of the size difference could be attributed to the Baltimore private school holdback mentality. Congrats to Laxachusetts for playing a super competitive game.

Crabs parents somewhat embarrassing when down to a Freedom team that showed up to play.

Bottom line is the top 2020 teams are all playing one and two goal games... talent is spread throughout and any team wins on any given day. While one or two kids make a difference this is a team sport and teams should win and lose as one unit.

No longer are Crabs and FCA and Looneys the only teams that can win!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the average age of laxachusetts?
Kids look a lot older?

Look older than who? They are not nearly as old as Crab, Looneys or FCA. To be honest, they actually looked a little undersized to me. They can play though

laxachusetts was much smaller in size than FCA. In fact, the announcers commented on that fact during the live stream. What they failed to comment on was that the reason for much of the size difference could be attributed to the Baltimore private school holdback mentality. Congrats to Laxachusetts for playing a super competitive game.

Fat Crab promotes the double holdback and should be ashamed of himself. He is an embarrassment to the sport and now his team should be embarrassed for their attempts to cheat leading to failure. Karma at it's best. The Crabs are at best true to there mascot.....bottom feeders.

laxachusetts was much smaller in size than FCA. In fact, the announcers commented on that fact during the live stream. What they failed to comment on was that the reason for much of the size difference could be attributed to the Baltimore private school holdback mentality. Congrats to Laxachusetts for playing a super competitive game.
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Fat Crab promotes the double holdback and should be ashamed of himself. He is an embarrassment to the sport and now his team should be embarrassed for their attempts to cheat leading to failure. Karma at it's best. The Crabs are at best true to there mascot.....bottom feeders.[/quote]

Promotes?! Very Fake News. You might as well discriminate all private schools in MD to fit your agenda. Other teams win? Of course, what the [lacrosse] were they waiting on, teams invited to the events certainly should win games, which reflects greatly on our sport and competition at this level. 1 point, 2 point,
OT playoff games every week, parents and fans getting great lacrosse. At the end of the day we are all in the same community, no need for the personal bs on here. See you at NLF, Happy 4th.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

laxachusetts was much smaller in size than FCA. In fact, the announcers commented on that fact during the live stream. What they failed to comment on was that the reason for much of the size difference could be attributed to the Baltimore private school holdback mentality. Congrats to Laxachusetts for playing a super competitive game.

Fat Crab promotes the double holdback and should be ashamed of himself. He is an embarrassment to the sport and now his team should be embarrassed for their attempts to cheat leading to failure. Karma at it's best. The Crabs are at best true to there mascot.....bottom feeders.[/quote]

Promotes?! Very Fake News. You might as well discriminate all private schools in MD to fit your agenda. Other teams win? Of course, what the [lacrosse] were they waiting on, teams invited to the events certainly should win games, which reflects greatly on our sport and competition at this level. 1 point, 2 point,
OT playoff games every week, parents and fans getting great lacrosse. At the end of the day we are all in the same community, no need for the personal bs on here. See you at NLF, Happy 4th.
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Fat Crab=Crab Poop=Losers

Holdbacks rule in FCA and Crab land.

At Crab Feast saw FCA player (unc) slash opponent away from play after referee looked away. Just stupid, unnecessary, and BTW not very Christian. Other unsportsmanlike play everywhere. Not impressed. Buyer beware.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At Crab Feast saw FCA player (unc) slash opponent away from play after referee looked away. Just stupid, unnecessary, and BTW not very Christian. Other unsportsmanlike play everywhere. Not impressed. Buyer beware.

I saw that too. Was sitting behind the FCA coaches. They bragged that it was a good check because they didn't get called. Also saw them try to teach their fogo how to cheat after he had a meltdown after getting smoked over and over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At Crab Feast saw FCA player (unc) slash opponent away from play after referee looked away. Just stupid, unnecessary, and BTW not very Christian. Other unsportsmanlike play everywhere. Not impressed. Buyer beware.

Then couldn't let it go and did it again while running off field with the other kid, although I think they both got penalized. Class all the way with that group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At Crab Feast saw FCA player (unc) slash opponent away from play after referee looked away. Just stupid, unnecessary, and BTW not very Christian. Other unsportsmanlike play everywhere. Not impressed. Buyer beware.

Then couldn't let it go and did it again while running off field with the other kid, although I think they both got penalized. Class all the way with that group.

Rotten from the top down. FCA now took the holdback/d-bag crown from Crabs and Looneys...Way to be there BK!

FCA= Fellowship of Cheating Aholes
Who exactly to they pray to before games? The Golden Cow?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recalibrating top 10 based on recent results at Big 4. Might last one week.

Looneys
Crush
FCA
Crabs
PrimeTime (went 4-0, beat WCS, Mesa, BBL, and C2C)
Madlax (went 4-0, beat Laxachussetts, LE, SweetLax, and Eclipse)
WCS
Express North
Legacy (not at Big 4 but runner up at Adrenaline)
Leading Edge

And after Crab feast

FCA / Crush / Looneys
Laxachussetts (great outing) / Hawks (solid showing)
Crabs
Leading Edge
Madlax
Freedom
Express North / Leg

Agree with all on most recent list with exception of Freedom- they were assigned to a very weak bracket for Crabfeast, with little decent competition. Not sure I think Prime Time deserves to be on first list either but still some great tournaments to go this summer to see how these 10-12 teams shake out.
The gap is definitely closing a bit - lots of close games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recalibrating top 10 based on recent results at Big 4. Might last one week.

Looneys
Crush
FCA
Crabs
PrimeTime (went 4-0, beat WCS, Mesa, BBL, and C2C)
Madlax (went 4-0, beat Laxachussetts, LE, SweetLax, and Eclipse)
WCS
Express North
Legacy (not at Big 4 but runner up at Adrenaline)
Leading Edge

And after Crab feast

FCA / Crush / Looneys
Laxachussetts (great outing) / Hawks (solid showing)
Crabs
Leading Edge
Madlax
Freedom
Express North / Leg

Wait what about Nxt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recalibrating top 10 based on recent results at Big 4. Might last one week.

Looneys
Crush
FCA
Crabs
PrimeTime (went 4-0, beat WCS, Mesa, BBL, and C2C)
Madlax (went 4-0, beat Laxachussetts, LE, SweetLax, and Eclipse)
WCS
Express North
Legacy (not at Big 4 but runner up at Adrenaline)
Leading Edge

And after Crab feast

FCA / Crush / Looneys
Laxachussetts (great outing) / Hawks (solid showing)
Crabs
Leading Edge
Madlax
Freedom
Express North / Leg

Wait what about Nxt

Sorry, they are not in the conversation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recalibrating top 10 based on recent results at Big 4. Might last one week.

Looneys
Crush
FCA
Crabs
PrimeTime (went 4-0, beat WCS, Mesa, BBL, and C2C)
Madlax (went 4-0, beat Laxachussetts, LE, SweetLax, and Eclipse)
WCS
Express North
Legacy (not at Big 4 but runner up at Adrenaline)
Leading Edge

And after Crab feast

FCA / Crush / Looneys
Laxachussetts (great outing) / Hawks (solid showing)
Crabs
Leading Edge
Madlax
Freedom
Express North / Leg

Wait what about Nxt

They don't play anyone good. So who knows if they are good or not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recalibrating top 10 based on recent results at Big 4. Might last one week.

Looneys
Crush
FCA
Crabs
PrimeTime (went 4-0, beat WCS, Mesa, BBL, and C2C)
Madlax (went 4-0, beat Laxachussetts, LE, SweetLax, and Eclipse)
WCS
Express North
Legacy (not at Big 4 but runner up at Adrenaline)
Leading Edge

And after Crab feast

FCA / Crush / Looneys
Laxachussetts (great outing) / Hawks (solid showing)
Crabs
Leading Edge
Madlax
Freedom
Express North / Leg

Crush still wins 7 out of 10 against everyone else. Need another loss or two before anyone else can claim parity, won't happen this summer.

Crush, MadLax and Hawks all playing in Naptown Challenge, as well as last year's defending champs FCA- think that second defeat may be coming soon. . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, MadLax and Hawks all playing in Naptown Challenge, as well as last year's defending champs FCA- think that second defeat may be coming soon. . . .

Madlax has to get past FL$ first at Naptown

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Recalibrating top 10 based on recent results at Big 4. Might last one week.

Looneys
Crush
FCA
Crabs
PrimeTime (went 4-0, beat WCS, Mesa, BBL, and C2C)
Madlax (went 4-0, beat Laxachussetts, LE, SweetLax, and Eclipse)
WCS
Express North
Legacy (not at Big 4 but runner up at Adrenaline)
Leading Edge

And after Crab feast

FCA / Crush / Looneys
Laxachussetts (great outing) / Hawks (solid showing)
Crabs
Leading Edge
Madlax
Freedom
Express North / Leg

Crush still wins 7 out of 10 against everyone else. Need another loss or two before anyone else can claim parity, won't happen this summer.

Crush
Looney's
FCA
Crabs
Laxachussets
Hawks
Leading Edge
Madlax/Express/Primetime

Agreed on the Crush comment, Looney's/FCA traded games, although Looney's had starters out, Hawks now in conversation, but wouldn't beat Crabs again (nice OT win, though), Crabs one goal game with Looney's and beat Laxch the week before. Would like to see FCA/Crabs, but I guess we may not at this point, until maybe Fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, MadLax and Hawks all playing in Naptown Challenge, as well as last year's defending champs FCA- think that second defeat may be coming soon. . . .

Also FCA and Freedom both playing too. Should be another great tourney

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, MadLax and Hawks all playing in Naptown Challenge, as well as last year's defending champs FCA- think that second defeat may be coming soon. . . .

Madlax has to get past FL$ first at Naptown

Is this a Joke?

it is funny how?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, MadLax and Hawks all playing in Naptown Challenge, as well as last year's defending champs FCA- think that second defeat may be coming soon. . . .

Madlax has to get past FL$ first at Naptown

Is this a Joke?

We'll see in 2 weeks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, MadLax and Hawks all playing in Naptown Challenge, as well as last year's defending champs FCA- think that second defeat may be coming soon. . . .

Madlax has to get past FL$ first at Naptown

Is this a Joke?

We'll see in 2 weeks

What/where is this fl$ team, from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, MadLax and Hawks all playing in Naptown Challenge, as well as last year's defending champs FCA- think that second defeat may be coming soon. . . .

Madlax has to get past FL$ first at Naptown

Is this a Joke?

We'll see in 2 weeks

What/where is this fl$ team, from.

Long Island

Everyone knows that the top 10 2020 teams are
1. LI Outlaws
2.Sweetlax FL
3. West Coast Stars
4. Clams
5. Looneys
6. Tomahawks
7. Crabs
8. Edge Canada
9. BBL
10. Crush
Sorry Crush parents but your boys are soft

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback football playerfrom Hills that doesn't play for Crush or Express. Was also the best player at the top 20 showcase. Look out!

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

Uh, THAT ranking is completely invalid. LI Outlaws, Clams and BBL should NOT be on that list - not even close to top 10 this year! And Sweetlax maybe (although I think top 10 is a stretch - maybe top 15?), but the National Team, not the FL team. . . . . . Would debate WCS too.
Not sure where you have seen those teams play but definitely not competitive with others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

I am quite sure many were waitign for this one to blow up.
I do give this boy/family credit becasue he typically plays his age and doesnt play down.
Me, Ill give him the pass on these because it is grade based.

What I hate are those who hold back and play down on travel, if you are that good why not play your age on travel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

I am quite sure many were waitign for this one to blow up.
I do give this boy/family credit becasue he typically plays his age and doesnt play down.
Me, Ill give him the pass on these because it is grade based.

What I hate are those who hold back and play down on travel, if you are that good why not play your age on travel.

Then he should have played on the Highlight division. They could have used him there, on the other hand, Command would not have one without him despite having a stacked team. They stuggled at the f/o x, and the attack, besides the two crushers, was nonexistant. Defense was weak as well with the exception of the OSU commit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

I am quite sure many were waitign for this one to blow up.
I do give this boy/family credit becasue he typically plays his age and doesnt play down.
Me, Ill give him the pass on these because it is grade based.

What I hate are those who hold back and play down on travel, if you are that good why not play your age on travel.

Then he should have played on the Highlight division. They could have used him there, on the other hand, Command would not have one without him despite having a stacked team. They stuggled at the f/o x, and the attack, besides the two crushers, was nonexistant. Defense was weak as well with the exception of the OSU commit

LI had a few more holdbacks he wasnt the only one. But the real question was how many on Balt were also held back. were Bdays publicied this year

how old is the ole crabs CH middie?

mano y mano - they way I look at it... Match up

not saying it is right

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

I am quite sure many were waitign for this one to blow up.
I do give this boy/family credit becasue he typically plays his age and doesnt play down.
Me, Ill give him the pass on these because it is grade based.

What I hate are those who hold back and play down on travel, if you are that good why not play your age on travel.

Then he should have played on the Highlight division. They could have used him there, on the other hand, Command would not have one without him despite having a stacked team. They stuggled at the f/o x, and the attack, besides the two crushers, was nonexistant. Defense was weak as well with the exception of the OSU commit

Hmmm, "would not have won without him", "struggled at the f/o x", "and attack besides two crushers was non existent", "defense was weak" - didn't they go undefeated without any real challenge? All the beards on Baltimore was quite impressive. That must have stung playing down and still losing. Ouch!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

I am quite sure many were waitign for this one to blow up.
I do give this boy/family credit becasue he typically plays his age and doesnt play down.
Me, Ill give him the pass on these because it is grade based.

What I hate are those who hold back and play down on travel, if you are that good why not play your age on travel.

Then he should have played on the Highlight division. They could have used him there, on the other hand, Command would not have one without him despite having a stacked team. They stuggled at the f/o x, and the attack, besides the two crushers, was nonexistant. Defense was weak as well with the exception of the OSU commit

Hmmm, "would not have won without him", "struggled at the f/o x", "and attack besides two crushers was non existent", "defense was weak" - didn't they go undefeated without any real challenge? All the beards on Baltimore was quite impressive. That must have stung playing down and still losing. Ouch!

Yep, it's what happened when they played the championship. They would not have won that game if they didn't have the Hills kid. He won the game for them which is why he was MVP. I'll give a shoutout to the 2nd half goalie as well after they lost the most important f/o of the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

I am quite sure many were waitign for this one to blow up.
I do give this boy/family credit becasue he typically plays his age and doesnt play down.
Me, Ill give him the pass on these because it is grade based.

What I hate are those who hold back and play down on travel, if you are that good why not play your age on travel.

Then he should have played on the Highlight division. They could have used him there, on the other hand, Command would not have one without him despite having a stacked team. They stuggled at the f/o x, and the attack, besides the two crushers, was nonexistant. Defense was weak as well with the exception of the OSU commit

Hmmm, "would not have won without him", "struggled at the f/o x", "and attack besides two crushers was non existent", "defense was weak" - didn't they go undefeated without any real challenge? All the beards on Baltimore was quite impressive. That must have stung playing down and still losing. Ouch!

Yep, it's what happened when they played the championship. They would not have won that game if they didn't have the Hills kid. He won the game for them which is why he was MVP. I'll give a shoutout to the 2nd half goalie as well after they lost the most important f/o of the game.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but Interesting how people make up their own facts,.Long Island Command Team dominated throughout tournament, Hills kid was Player of the game for the championship game and all tournament midfielder. According to Inside lacrosse , The two 91 crush attackman Oneil and arline were all tournament attack along with the Baltimore attackman Grimes who played extremely well in the championship game, although scoring only once or twice in championship game Crush attackman Oneil was given the MVP for the entire Tournament in the Command division. Those are the facts, it was a 6 or 7 game tournament not just 1 game.

17 year olds and kids who can drive in the 9th grade on the Baltimore UA Command team. Shame.

Please check UA stats....grimes and O'Neill tied with 12 goals each thru all tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please check UA stats....grimes and O'Neill tied with 12 goals each thru all tourney.

and that means what? Me, Im Taking Oneil each time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

I am quite sure many were waitign for this one to blow up.
I do give this boy/family credit becasue he typically plays his age and doesnt play down.
Me, Ill give him the pass on these because it is grade based.

What I hate are those who hold back and play down on travel, if you are that good why not play your age on travel.

Then he should have played on the Highlight division. They could have used him there, on the other hand, Command would not have one without him despite having a stacked team. They stuggled at the f/o x, and the attack, besides the two crushers, was nonexistant. Defense was weak as well with the exception of the OSU commit

Hmmm, "would not have won without him", "struggled at the f/o x", "and attack besides two crushers was non existent", "defense was weak" - didn't they go undefeated without any real challenge? All the beards on Baltimore was quite impressive. That must have stung playing down and still losing. Ouch!

Yep, it's what happened when they played the championship. They would not have won that game if they didn't have the Hills kid. He won the game for them which is why he was MVP. I'll give a shoutout to the 2nd half goalie as well after they lost the most important f/o of the game.

dude (or dudette),

The game is on utube. I think many kids impressed. Is UNC kid supposed to be a JR in HS? Is second half goalie supposed to be 2020, not 2021?

On LI, as I am sure all over the regions, some players are there for political reasons while others missed the opportunity altogether. Player had a good game, as he should, he is older; but had he not have been there the dynamics may have been different and another player may have stepped up and another given the opportunity. Can't go back and say could've should've.

I always thought on LI UA replaced the Nassau-Suffolk games, this was the Catholic school version. Kudos for public school kids.

I also don't know why you take players who don't live on LI. Make a metro team. You don't live in Nassau or Suffolk how do you get to be a LI player.
But please, put everything in perspective, all of these players are not typical.

The best player by far in the championship game was the Looneys kid. What an athlete!

The Philly goalie who was selected for all tournament team has already completed his second year of high school. His highlight reel states that he is a 2019 yet he was competing in the Command division of the tournament. Questionable to say the least.....also questionable that he was selected for ATT.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please check UA stats....grimes and O'Neill tied with 12 goals each thru all tourney.

And while your checking the UA Stats and talking about specific kids here are the scoring reported by under armour and tourney machine :

Oneil (Command Long Island)- 12 Goals and 10 Assists (MVP of Tourney Command Division) - 22 points

grimes (Command Baltimore) - 12 Goals and 4 Assists - 16 points (3 other players with 16 points)

Arline (Command Long Island) - 8 Goals and 3 Assists- 11 points

Hills Kid (Command Long Island) Re- classed 2019 - believe the name is Brown (player of game in championship game)- 9 goals and 0 assists

*Those are the facts if you really insist on quoting stats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please check UA stats....grimes and O'Neill tied with 12 goals each thru all tourney.

and that means what? Me, Im Taking Oneil each time!

O'Neil led entire tournament in scoring with 12 goals and 10 assists thGrimes 12 goals and 4 assists reported by UA , with Long Island Command dominating the tourney and winning the championship .

Hills kid on Long Island Command Team 9 Goals zero assists

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please check UA stats....grimes and O'Neill tied with 12 goals each thru all tourney.

and that means what? Me, Im Taking Oneil each time!

O'Neil led entire tournament in scoring with 12 goals and 10 assists thGrimes 12 goals and 4 assists reported by UA , with Long Island Command dominating the tourney and winning the championship .

Hills kid on Long Island Command Team 9 Goals zero assists

Looneys boy was clutch in the championship where it mattered most against the only other really good team there, How many goals did Crush boy score in that game? Hills kid a ball hog.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please check UA stats....grimes and O'Neill tied with 12 goals each thru all tourney.

and that means what? Me, Im Taking Oneil each time!

O'Neil led entire tournament in scoring with 12 goals and 10 assists thGrimes 12 goals and 4 assists reported by UA , with Long Island Command dominating the tourney and winning the championship .

Hills kid on Long Island Command Team 9 Goals zero assists

Looneys boy was clutch in the championship where it mattered most against the only other really good team there, How many goals did Crush boy score in that game? Hills kid a ball hog.

Argument is silly, so then your saying Looneys boy basically did nothing the rest of tournament and had 1 good game in the championship game which Baltimore lost anyway, and there were "no other good teams there" ? What does that say about the Baltimore team ? Based on the scores of their games prior to the championship apparently they played a few close games beating a New England team by a goal in pool play, ultimately winning all their games and lost in championship "when it mattered". Long Island team dominated throughout tournament winning "when it mattered" so what does any of this really matter ? Silly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please check UA stats....grimes and O'Neill tied with 12 goals each thru all tourney.

and that means what? Me, Im Taking Oneil each time!

O'Neil led entire tournament in scoring with 12 goals and 10 assists thGrimes 12 goals and 4 assists reported by UA , with Long Island Command dominating the tourney and winning the championship .

Hills kid on Long Island Command Team 9 Goals zero assists

Looneys boy was clutch in the championship where it mattered most against the only other really good team there, How many goals did Crush boy score in that game? Hills kid a ball hog.

Argument is silly, so then your saying Looneys boy basically did nothing the rest of tournament and had 1 good game in the championship game which Baltimore lost anyway, and there were "no other good teams there" ? What does that say about the Baltimore team ? Based on the scores of their games prior to the championship apparently they played a few close games beating a New England team by a goal in pool play, ultimately winning all their games and lost in championship "when it mattered". Long Island team dominated throughout tournament winning "when it mattered" so what does any of this really matter ? Silly

Did nothing?? Was tied for high goals overall, and scored 4 in that game. Please stop and just admit if the goalie did'nt save that last shot he was easily MVP

When did Hills kid holdback if he's still in public? Was he left back?

Daddy Looney on here talking up his son - not surprising. Wait til he is in college and dyes his hair orange. Classy that OSU team..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daddy Looney on here talking up his son - not surprising. Wait til he is in college and dyes his hair orange. Classy that OSU team..

You really get off trashing anything in front of you. Now you are going after Ohio State's team. I would bet with certainty your kid will NEVER be recruited by them or any other top 20 Div 1 college. Probably be 4th string on a lower Div 3 team or club team.

I would bet 80% plus of the Baltimore team was born in either 2000 or 2001. Long Island had less than 5 kids with 2001 birth dates on that team and a few kids are still 14 years old.

You really get off trashing anything in front of you. Now you are going after Ohio State's team. I would bet with certainty your kid will NEVER be recruited by them or any other top 20 Div 1 college. Probably be 4th string on a lower Div 3 team or club team. [/quote]

I bet if I hold him back a year or two he can play for any D1 program in the country. This is 'Merica! Sorry - not impressed by a team full of kids who have their drivers license before they start the 10th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would bet 80% plus of the Baltimore team was born in either 2000 or 2001. Long Island had less than 5 kids with 2001 birth dates on that team and a few kids are still 14 years old.

Interesting that the only kid who did anything in about that game was a holdback! Rest of the team? Meh

What a joke. Another holdback. Wasn't close to the best. Just look at who the coach is and you can make the connection. Not too political!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Philly goalie who was selected for all tournament team has already completed his second year of high school. His highlight reel states that he is a 2019 yet he was competing in the Command division of the tournament. Questionable to say the least.....also questionable that he was selected for ATT.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would bet 80% plus of the Baltimore team was born in either 2000 or 2001. Long Island had less than 5 kids with 2001 birth dates on that team and a few kids are still 14 years old.

Will NY people ever get tired of pretending that birth year is the appropriate cut off for school or lacrosse? Almost every state in the country uses a cutoff for school of ***OCT 1 OR EARLIER***. I think NY and CT are the only stupid states remaining that use Jan 1, and it's Dec 1 in much of NY.

The entire Baltimore team could be born in 2001 and it wouldn't even prove that they have a single holdback. I don't doubt that they do, but it's not just because the kid was born in 2001. Congrats to LI for winning. (I'm not from Baltimore either.)

Wink and a nod in the Baltimore/MIAA mafia. Follow the money and it will be obvious why no one wants to upset the cash cow...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a joke. Another holdback. Wasn't close to the best. Just look at who the coach is and you can make the connection. Not too political!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Philly goalie who was selected for all tournament team has already completed his second year of high school. His highlight reel states that he is a 2019 yet he was competing in the Command division of the tournament. Questionable to say the least.....also questionable that he was selected for ATT.....

How many Corrigan brothers/cousins are there????????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid at UA Command was a holdback - enough said.

You can't holdback in public school

I am quite sure many were waitign for this one to blow up.
I do give this boy/family credit becasue he typically plays his age and doesnt play down.
Me, Ill give him the pass on these because it is grade based.

What I hate are those who hold back and play down on travel, if you are that good why not play your age on travel.

Then he should have played on the Highlight division. They could have used him there, on the other hand, Command would not have one without him despite having a stacked team. They stuggled at the f/o x, and the attack, besides the two crushers, was nonexistant. Defense was weak as well with the exception of the OSU commit

Hmmm, "would not have won without him", "struggled at the f/o x", "and attack besides two crushers was non existent", "defense was weak" - didn't they go undefeated without any real challenge? All the beards on Baltimore was quite impressive. That must have stung playing down and still losing. Ouch!

Didn't we just establish that Long Island had a "few" holdbacks? Pot meet kettle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Philly goalie who was selected for all tournament team has already completed his second year of high school. His highlight reel states that he is a 2019 yet he was competing in the Command division of the tournament. Questionable to say the least.....also questionable that he was selected for ATT.....

Sorry your boy didn't get selected to the ATT team. Little secret....Everyone but you thinks he's overrated....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would bet 80% plus of the Baltimore team was born in either 2000 or 2001. Long Island had less than 5 kids with 2001 birth dates on that team and a few kids are still 14 years old.

Interesting that the only kid who did anything in about that game was a holdback! Rest of the team? Meh

That kid is not holdback. Sorry to disappoint

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a joke. Another holdback. Wasn't close to the best. Just look at who the coach is and you can make the connection. Not too political!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Philly goalie who was selected for all tournament team has already completed his second year of high school. His highlight reel states that he is a 2019 yet he was competing in the Command division of the tournament. Questionable to say the least.....also questionable that he was selected for ATT.....

How many Corrigan brothers/cousins are there????????

Seems like you want to be part of the family but are pis*ed that you aren't. Time to go home junior.

Multiple Baltimore players drove themselves home - saw it with my own two eyes. Joke.

Sort of interesting that every other ATT player was selected based upon stats except the goalie. Stat leaders are stat leaders.....you can't argue with the numbers. Maybe your son should switch to attack since he seems to insist on running the full length of the filed and shooting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Multiple Baltimore players drove themselves home - saw it with my own two eyes. Joke.

You're so unbelievably full of it. That's just not true. There was ONE kid on the team that is seventeen. Others have turned sixteen in the past few months but don't drive themselves anywhere yet. If you'd like to better understand the school system Birthday cut-off points that exist in Baltimore (even for public schools) you should probably do some research. Aside from that there were sooooooooo many hold backs (as previously discussed on this forum) on several teams in the Command division this year. These boys are in high school now and it's time folks stop whining about hold backs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Multiple Baltimore players drove themselves home - saw it with my own two eyes. Joke.

You're so unbelievably full of it. That's just not true. There was ONE kid on the team that is seventeen. Others have turned sixteen in the past few months but don't drive themselves anywhere yet. If you'd like to better understand the school system Birthday cut-off points that exist in Baltimore (even for public schools) you should probably do some research. Aside from that there were sooooooooo many hold backs (as previously discussed on this forum) on several teams in the Command division this year. These boys are in high school now and it's time folks stop whining about hold backs.

And thats why we should be praising those on age, those who are older should be dominating. 17 year old in Command others have turned 16 come on, that is a shame

17 years old in the 9th grade. Repeat that a few times and let it sink in. There are Seniors in HS in MD that are 17 years old. If you can't compete - just repeat a grade or two then you look like a stud.

When you are playing in HS that's one thing - when you are in a grade based tournament and are 17 in the 9th grade grow some balls and play up.

Gonna PG a year too - right?

Not sure who you are referencing but my son is a goalie that played in the tourney and if I had a vote I would've said the Philly goalie that won ATT deserved it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

17 years old in the 9th grade. Repeat that a few times and let it sink in. There are Seniors in HS in MD that are 17 years old. If you can't compete - just repeat a grade or two then you look like a stud.

When you are playing in HS that's one thing - when you are in a grade based tournament and are 17 in the 9th grade grow some balls and play up.

Gonna PG a year too - right?

That's embarrassing. There are kids who start college before turning 18. Any 2000 birth year who just finished 9th grade should be playing with the 10th graders. Even a kid with a Dec 31, 2000 birthday.

Lax should have a birthday cutoff that provides some slack for different states but stops this kind of nonsense. August 1 would seem to work. But it might take a successful lawsuit by a player seriously injured by a much older player to make it happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

17 years old in the 9th grade. Repeat that a few times and let it sink in. There are Seniors in HS in MD that are 17 years old. If you can't compete - just repeat a grade or two then you look like a stud.

When you are playing in HS that's one thing - when you are in a grade based tournament and are 17 in the 9th grade grow some balls and play up.

Gonna PG a year too - right?

That's embarrassing. There are kids who start college before turning 18. Any 2000 birth year who just finished 9th grade should be playing with the 10th graders. Even a kid with a Dec 31, 2000 birthday.

Lax should have a birthday cutoff that provides some slack for different states but stops this kind of nonsense. August 1 would seem to work. But it might take a successful lawsuit by a player seriously injured by a much older player to make it happen.

I like the Aug. 1 cut off because it should keep it grade based for high school and beyond for most of the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Multiple Baltimore players drove themselves home - saw it with my own two eyes. Joke.

You're so unbelievably full of it. That's just not true. There was ONE kid on the team that is seventeen. Others have turned sixteen in the past few months but don't drive themselves anywhere yet. If you'd like to better understand the school system Birthday cut-off points that exist in Baltimore (even for public schools) you should probably do some research. Aside from that there were sooooooooo many hold backs (as previously discussed on this forum) on several teams in the Command division this year. These boys are in high school now and it's time folks stop whining about hold backs.

And thats why we should be praising those on age, those who are older should be dominating. 17 year old in Command others have turned 16 come on, that is a shame

That is pathetic. My 2020 just turned 15 and my 2018 just turned 17. Kudos to all the on age kids who are working even harder to stand out because they compete against kids gaming the system - in the long run the on age kids will be better for it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Multiple Baltimore players drove themselves home - saw it with my own two eyes. Joke.

You're so unbelievably full of it. That's just not true. There was ONE kid on the team that is seventeen. Others have turned sixteen in the past few months but don't drive themselves anywhere yet. If you'd like to better understand the school system Birthday cut-off points that exist in Baltimore (even for public schools) you should probably do some research. Aside from that there were sooooooooo many hold backs (as previously discussed on this forum) on several teams in the Command division this year. These boys are in high school now and it's time folks stop whining about hold backs.

There is no excuse for even one, as much as you want to trivialize it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Multiple Baltimore players drove themselves home - saw it with my own two eyes. Joke.

You're so unbelievably full of it. That's just not true. There was ONE kid on the team that is seventeen. Others have turned sixteen in the past few months but don't drive themselves anywhere yet. If you'd like to better understand the school system Birthday cut-off points that exist in Baltimore (even for public schools) you should probably do some research. Aside from that there were sooooooooo many hold backs (as previously discussed on this forum) on several teams in the Command division this year. These boys are in high school now and it's time folks stop whining about hold backs.

There is no excuse for even one, as much as you want to trivialize it.

Please don't drag maryland public school kids down into your deceit. Any kid in Maryland following school guidelines would still be 15 until 9/1 which is the Maryland State guidelines. What the MIAA schools have done is ridiculous - they claim they are the best but forget about that they are 1-2 years older. Congratulations to any UA team that played without holdbacks. The UA Baltimore team was a joke between the FCA And Calvert Hall kids . 8-10 on a team! As if there are not other more talented kids in the area-MIAA or otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Multiple Baltimore players drove themselves home - saw it with my own two eyes. Joke.

You're so unbelievably full of it. That's just not true. There was ONE kid on the team that is seventeen. Others have turned sixteen in the past few months but don't drive themselves anywhere yet. If you'd like to better understand the school system Birthday cut-off points that exist in Baltimore (even for public schools) you should probably do some research. Aside from that there were sooooooooo many hold backs (as previously discussed on this forum) on several teams in the Command division this year. These boys are in high school now and it's time folks stop whining about hold backs.

There is no excuse for even one, as much as you want to trivialize it.

Please don't drag maryland public school kids down into your deceit. Any kid in Maryland following school guidelines would still be 15 until 9/1 which is the Maryland State guidelines. What the MIAA schools have done is ridiculous - they claim they are the best but forget about that they are 1-2 years older. Congratulations to any UA team that played without holdbacks. The UA Baltimore team was a joke between the FCA And Calvert Hall kids . 8-10 on a team! As if there are not other more talented kids in the area-MIAA or otherwise.

We've already established the FACT that numerous UA Command teams had hold backs this year so please spare us the self righteousness.

If UA was a legitimate event, it would go by birth year, esspecially for the Command division. It's supposed to be for the younger kids but the cheating hold backs have spoiled that the way they have everything else. They would have disappeared playing in the Highlight division where they belong. A shame.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a joke. Another holdback. Wasn't close to the best. Just look at who the coach is and you can make the connection. Not too political!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Philly goalie who was selected for all tournament team has already completed his second year of high school. His highlight reel states that he is a 2019 yet he was competing in the Command division of the tournament. Questionable to say the least.....also questionable that he was selected for ATT.....

How many Corrigan brothers/cousins are there????????

Seems like you want to be part of the family but are pis*ed that you aren't. Time to go home junior.

Philly UA command weak this year. Too many teacher pets. Philly UA highlight fantastic. No teacher pets. Go figure.

NXT, Freedom, and possibly HHH would beat the Philly UA command team. Kids on there because they attend certain high schools or play for certain bad club teams.(rough riders)
Lefty attack scored three straight times in play back game and is headed to PSU did not make cut. Righty attack who can't catch or through did make cut. FO kid won 90% in tryout did not make it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Multiple Baltimore players drove themselves home - saw it with my own two eyes. Joke.

You're so unbelievably full of it. That's just not true. There was ONE kid on the team that is seventeen. Others have turned sixteen in the past few months but don't drive themselves anywhere yet. If you'd like to better understand the school system Birthday cut-off points that exist in Baltimore (even for public schools) you should probably do some research. Aside from that there were sooooooooo many hold backs (as previously discussed on this forum) on several teams in the Command division this year. These boys are in high school now and it's time folks stop whining about hold backs.

There is no excuse for even one, as much as you want to trivialize it.

Please don't drag maryland public school kids down into your deceit. Any kid in Maryland following school guidelines would still be 15 until 9/1 which is the Maryland State guidelines. What the MIAA schools have done is ridiculous - they claim they are the best but forget about that they are 1-2 years older. Congratulations to any UA team that played without holdbacks. The UA Baltimore team was a joke between the FCA And Calvert Hall kids . 8-10 on a team! As if there are not other more talented kids in the area-MIAA or otherwise.

We've already established the FACT that numerous UA Command teams had hold backs this year so please spare us the self righteousness.

And that makes it okay? Feel sorry for your kid when you both wake up and realize that you can't "fix" everything for him. You just don't get it.

What are the best teams to tryout for that won't just take your money

don't be offended..that's the sound of crickets you hear..

None of them.

To be perfectly honest, at this age, your club team is secondary to your HS program.

Your club team is secondary to your HS team? Not if you want to play in college...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your club team is secondary to your HS team? Not if you want to play in college...

It is if you're already committed!

Your verbal commit in the 8th grade may make you feel warm and fuzzy - but it's not much more than a non binding contract that is not worth the paper it's printed on. If you think you son's potential college coach is going to come see your kid play in high school in the middle of college lacrosse season instead of going to a summer club tournament where he can watch his recruits AND check out multiple prospects you are sorely mistaken.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your club team is secondary to your HS team? Not if you want to play in college...

Not true in all cases. Club team is very important if you live in a weak district, have a poor HS team, etc. Then I agree you need to have a good club affiliation to get exposure. However, some of the big HS team coaches have long-standing relationships with college coaches and can do a lot to help a kid get recruited. If a kid plays for a top high school program the club team is no longer everthing. So, the importance of the club team is influenced heavily by your high school. The better the HS team, the less a kid needs club. Having said all that, most top HS players still play on a summer club team....and maybe more than one.

What happened to Leg? Rough weekend?

So is Rising Sons 2020 really getting back together? Ditching NXT?

Naptown after Day 1, sorted by Wins, then GD.

Team W L T GD GS GA
Annapolis Hawks 2 0 0 10 23 4
Team 91 2020 Crush 2 0 0 10 23 7
FCA (MD) LACROSSE 2020 2 0 0 8 19 8
Next Level 2020 Blue 2 0 0 8 21 12
Madlax 2 0 0 7 14 7
True National 2020 2 0 0 6 13 6
LB3 Thunder 2 0 0 3 15 12
Denver Elite 2020 Silver 1 1 0 4 15 10
Iron Horse 1 1 0 4 16 12
Eclipse 1 1 0 3 13 10
LI Express Wieczorek 1 1 0 2 24 10
Fighting Clams 1 1 0 0 12 12
3d NorCal 1 1 0 -2 15 18
3d Denver 1 1 0 -4 9 16
Tri-State 2020 1 1 0 -4 10 22
3D San Diego 0 2 0 -6 6 13
fl$ Lacrosse 0 2 0 -6 9 15
Rock 0 2 0 -7 7 15
Team Carolina 0 2 0 -8 7 27
Dukes 0 2 0 -9 6 18
Freedom 0 2 0 -9 8 20
Igloo 2020 0 2 0 -10 6 17

Interesting. Thanks for posting. Of course, dependent upon pool and initial opponents but will be interested to see this Day 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naptown after Day 1, sorted by Wins, then GD.

Team W L T GD GS GA
Annapolis Hawks 2 0 0 10 23 4
Team 91 2020 Crush 2 0 0 10 23 7
FCA (MD) LACROSSE 2020 2 0 0 8 19 8
Next Level 2020 Blue 2 0 0 8 21 12
Madlax 2 0 0 7 14 7
True National 2020 2 0 0 6 13 6
LB3 Thunder 2 0 0 3 15 12
Denver Elite 2020 Silver 1 1 0 4 15 10
Iron Horse 1 1 0 4 16 12
Eclipse 1 1 0 3 13 10
LI Express Wieczorek 1 1 0 2 24 10
Fighting Clams 1 1 0 0 12 12
3d NorCal 1 1 0 -2 15 18
3d Denver 1 1 0 -4 9 16
Tri-State 2020 1 1 0 -4 10 22
3D San Diego 0 2 0 -6 6 13
fl$ Lacrosse 0 2 0 -6 9 15
Rock 0 2 0 -7 7 15
Team Carolina 0 2 0 -8 7 27
Dukes 0 2 0 -9 6 18
Freedom 0 2 0 -9 8 20
Igloo 2020 0 2 0 -10 6 17

Igloo, fl$ and Express fell apart. Not good teams, especially for all the money and hype.

Final Seedings for Naptown

Team 91 Crush
Annapolis Hawks
FCA
Next Level 2020
Madlax
LI Express Terps
3D Denver
LB3 Thunder
True National 2020
Eclipse
fl$
Iron Horse
Denver Elite
Freedom
Fighting Clams
Tri-State
3D NorCal
Igloo
Dukes
3D San Diego
Rock
Team Carolina

Great Lacrosse Today Good luck to everyone tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naptown after Day 1, sorted by Wins, then GD.

Team W L T GD GS GA
Annapolis Hawks 2 0 0 10 23 4
Team 91 2020 Crush 2 0 0 10 23 7
FCA (MD) LACROSSE 2020 2 0 0 8 19 8
Next Level 2020 Blue 2 0 0 8 21 12
Madlax 2 0 0 7 14 7
True National 2020 2 0 0 6 13 6
LB3 Thunder 2 0 0 3 15 12
Denver Elite 2020 Silver 1 1 0 4 15 10
Iron Horse 1 1 0 4 16 12
Eclipse 1 1 0 3 13 10
LI Express Wieczorek 1 1 0 2 24 10
Fighting Clams 1 1 0 0 12 12
3d NorCal 1 1 0 -2 15 18
3d Denver 1 1 0 -4 9 16
Tri-State 2020 1 1 0 -4 10 22
3D San Diego 0 2 0 -6 6 13
fl$ Lacrosse 0 2 0 -6 9 15
Rock 0 2 0 -7 7 15
Team Carolina 0 2 0 -8 7 27
Dukes 0 2 0 -9 6 18
Freedom 0 2 0 -9 8 20
Igloo 2020 0 2 0 -10 6 17

Totally not true for fl$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naptown after Day 1, sorted by Wins, then GD.

Team W L T GD GS GA
Annapolis Hawks 2 0 0 10 23 4
Team 91 2020 Crush 2 0 0 10 23 7
FCA (MD) LACROSSE 2020 2 0 0 8 19 8
Next Level 2020 Blue 2 0 0 8 21 12
Madlax 2 0 0 7 14 7
True National 2020 2 0 0 6 13 6
LB3 Thunder 2 0 0 3 15 12
Denver Elite 2020 Silver 1 1 0 4 15 10
Iron Horse 1 1 0 4 16 12
Eclipse 1 1 0 3 13 10
LI Express Wieczorek 1 1 0 2 24 10
Fighting Clams 1 1 0 0 12 12
3d NorCal 1 1 0 -2 15 18
3d Denver 1 1 0 -4 9 16
Tri-State 2020 1 1 0 -4 10 22
3D San Diego 0 2 0 -6 6 13
fl$ Lacrosse 0 2 0 -6 9 15
Rock 0 2 0 -7 7 15
Team Carolina 0 2 0 -8 7 27
Dukes 0 2 0 -9 6 18
Freedom 0 2 0 -9 8 20
Igloo 2020 0 2 0 -10 6 17

Igloo, fl$ and Express fell apart. Not good teams, especially for all the money and hype.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Seedings for Naptown

Team 91 Crush
Annapolis Hawks
FCA
Next Level 2020
Madlax
LI Express Terps
3D Denver
LB3 Thunder
True National 2020
Eclipse
fl$
Iron Horse
Denver Elite
Freedom
Fighting Clams
Tri-State
3D NorCal
Igloo
Dukes
3D San Diego
Rock
Team Carolina

Great Lacrosse Today Good luck to everyone tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naptown after Day 1, sorted by Wins, then GD.

Team W L T GD GS GA
Annapolis Hawks 2 0 0 10 23 4
Team 91 2020 Crush 2 0 0 10 23 7
FCA (MD) LACROSSE 2020 2 0 0 8 19 8
Next Level 2020 Blue 2 0 0 8 21 12
Madlax 2 0 0 7 14 7
True National 2020 2 0 0 6 13 6
LB3 Thunder 2 0 0 3 15 12
Denver Elite 2020 Silver 1 1 0 4 15 10
Iron Horse 1 1 0 4 16 12
Eclipse 1 1 0 3 13 10
LI Express Wieczorek 1 1 0 2 24 10
Fighting Clams 1 1 0 0 12 12
3d NorCal 1 1 0 -2 15 18
3d Denver 1 1 0 -4 9 16
Tri-State 2020 1 1 0 -4 10 22
3D San Diego 0 2 0 -6 6 13
fl$ Lacrosse 0 2 0 -6 9 15
Rock 0 2 0 -7 7 15
Team Carolina 0 2 0 -8 7 27
Dukes 0 2 0 -9 6 18
Freedom 0 2 0 -9 8 20
Igloo 2020 0 2 0 -10 6 17

Must have been some card playing going on during the seeding meeting. Some nice leap-frogging for LIE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally not true for fl$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naptown after Day 1, sorted by Wins, then GD.

Team W L T GD GS GA
Annapolis Hawks 2 0 0 10 23 4
Team 91 2020 Crush 2 0 0 10 23 7
FCA (MD) LACROSSE 2020 2 0 0 8 19 8
Next Level 2020 Blue 2 0 0 8 21 12
Madlax 2 0 0 7 14 7
True National 2020 2 0 0 6 13 6
LB3 Thunder 2 0 0 3 15 12
Denver Elite 2020 Silver 1 1 0 4 15 10
Iron Horse 1 1 0 4 16 12
Eclipse 1 1 0 3 13 10
LI Express Wieczorek 1 1 0 2 24 10
Fighting Clams 1 1 0 0 12 12
3d NorCal 1 1 0 -2 15 18
3d Denver 1 1 0 -4 9 16
Tri-State 2020 1 1 0 -4 10 22
3D San Diego 0 2 0 -6 6 13
fl$ Lacrosse 0 2 0 -6 9 15
Rock 0 2 0 -7 7 15
Team Carolina 0 2 0 -8 7 27
Dukes 0 2 0 -9 6 18
Freedom 0 2 0 -9 8 20
Igloo 2020 0 2 0 -10 6 17

Igloo, fl$ and Express fell apart. Not good teams, especially for all the money and hype.

They went 0-2, whatcha talking 'bout Willis?

What is going on at NXT, usually their teams have a cake walk to the playoffs in their tournaments. Which is expected, considering they set them up. However, the schedule for their tournament next weekend has been announced and they have Looneys in their pool and only the top team in the pool makes the playoffs. Very surprised they would set it up that way. Not to mention the fact that they don't even start play until 3:30, that has to be the worst possible schedule for a late summer tournament. What are they thinking?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Totally not true for fl$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naptown after Day 1, sorted by Wins, then GD.

Team W L T GD GS GA
Annapolis Hawks 2 0 0 10 23 4
Team 91 2020 Crush 2 0 0 10 23 7
FCA (MD) LACROSSE 2020 2 0 0 8 19 8
Next Level 2020 Blue 2 0 0 8 21 12
Madlax 2 0 0 7 14 7
True National 2020 2 0 0 6 13 6
LB3 Thunder 2 0 0 3 15 12
Denver Elite 2020 Silver 1 1 0 4 15 10
Iron Horse 1 1 0 4 16 12
Eclipse 1 1 0 3 13 10
LI Express Wieczorek 1 1 0 2 24 10
Fighting Clams 1 1 0 0 12 12
3d NorCal 1 1 0 -2 15 18
3d Denver 1 1 0 -4 9 16
Tri-State 2020 1 1 0 -4 10 22
3D San Diego 0 2 0 -6 6 13
fl$ Lacrosse 0 2 0 -6 9 15
Rock 0 2 0 -7 7 15
Team Carolina 0 2 0 -8 7 27
Dukes 0 2 0 -9 6 18
Freedom 0 2 0 -9 8 20
Igloo 2020 0 2 0 -10 6 17

Igloo, fl$ and Express fell apart. Not good teams, especially for all the money and hype.

They went 0-2, whatcha talking 'bout Willis?

They were up over FCA with 5 minutes left. Then 3 straight penalty calls against them that helped FCA come back.

fl$ played well yesterday vs FCA and will be fun playing express later today

like clockwork here come the excuses. Tick Tick Excuse Tick Tick Excuse..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Seedings for Naptown

Team 91 Crush
Annapolis Hawks
FCA
Next Level 2020
Madlax
LI Express Terps
3D Denver
LB3 Thunder
True National 2020
Eclipse
fl$
Iron Horse
Denver Elite
Freedom
Fighting Clams
Tri-State
3D NorCal
Igloo
Dukes
3D San Diego
Rock
Team Carolina

Great Lacrosse Today Good luck to everyone tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Naptown after Day 1, sorted by Wins, then GD.

Team W L T GD GS GA
Annapolis Hawks 2 0 0 10 23 4
Team 91 2020 Crush 2 0 0 10 23 7
FCA (MD) LACROSSE 2020 2 0 0 8 19 8
Next Level 2020 Blue 2 0 0 8 21 12
Madlax 2 0 0 7 14 7
True National 2020 2 0 0 6 13 6
LB3 Thunder 2 0 0 3 15 12
Denver Elite 2020 Silver 1 1 0 4 15 10
Iron Horse 1 1 0 4 16 12
Eclipse 1 1 0 3 13 10
LI Express Wieczorek 1 1 0 2 24 10
Fighting Clams 1 1 0 0 12 12
3d NorCal 1 1 0 -2 15 18
3d Denver 1 1 0 -4 9 16
Tri-State 2020 1 1 0 -4 10 22
3D San Diego 0 2 0 -6 6 13
fl$ Lacrosse 0 2 0 -6 9 15
Rock 0 2 0 -7 7 15
Team Carolina 0 2 0 -8 7 27
Dukes 0 2 0 -9 6 18
Freedom 0 2 0 -9 8 20
Igloo 2020 0 2 0 -10 6 17

Must have been some card playing going on during the seeding meeting. Some nice leap-frogging for LIE.

Saw that! Rediculus! And the couldn't even win both gimme games

Straight up FCA just did not play well no excuse

Might want to seed the teams by game stats - Goal dif, goals against, etc. - this looks shady.

Jury still out on fl$. Igloo is discratz... We'll see if fl$ just got lucky vs. FCA or if they are legit based on game vs. LIE. It would appear MAD LAX hs gotten better.

Express 8-4 over FL$. fl$ decent but not elite. LIE still a step ahead of them but behind the very top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ played well yesterday vs FCA and will be fun playing express later today

Will be fun for the person who convinced 40 parents from Long Island to take off work, drive 5 hours, and pay for hotel rooms to watch their kids play other Long Island kids...

I think everyone has had time to enjoy beautiful Annapolis and explore the US NAVAL Academy regardless of whether or not they play a game or two vs. local competition. How about seeking out the positive and not the negative angry Joe.

How fun was that FL$ Expre$$ game? Express doubled ya up.

I've never seen so many dudes wearing vineyard vine shirts.

fl$ has a lot be proud of, FCA should be embarrassed, parents, players and coaches owe lots of people apologies for their despicable behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if the colleges that recruited their 16 and 17 year old 9th graders are having second thoughts. Big difference between playing hard and playing like a bunch of scumbags. Signed, A Real Christian

Express just demolished the overage, overrated FCA team 7-2. Everyone there couldn't have been happier. Not a single FCA fan except for the parents.

Some carnage in Naptown - LIE knocking off FCA. Clams over Eclipse, Denver Elite over Madlax in OT, and Crush the only one that looks like it is cruising with a win over LB3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express just demolished the overage, overrated FCA team 7-2. Everyone there couldn't have been happier. Not a single FCA fan except for the parents.

Fans, other than parents? What would anyone else be doing at the tournament on a work week, during Summer, who is not directly involved/related with the players! Fans! I do hate me some FCA 2020, though, so nice win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ has a lot be proud of, FCA should be embarrassed, parents, players and coaches owe lots of people apologies for their despicable behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if the colleges that recruited their 16 and 17 year old 9th graders are having second thoughts. Big difference between playing hard and playing like a bunch of scumbags. Signed, A Real Christian

That's what happens when older kids lose to younger kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ has a lot be proud of, FCA should be embarrassed, parents, players and coaches owe lots of people apologies for their despicable behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if the colleges that recruited their 16 and 17 year old 9th graders are having second thoughts. Big difference between playing hard and playing like a bunch of scumbags. Signed, A Real Christian

What was the despicable behavior?

Parents and players from other 2020 teams, lots of them, all rooting for Express and laughing at FCA players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ has a lot be proud of, FCA should be embarrassed, parents, players and coaches owe lots of people apologies for their despicable behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if the colleges that recruited their 16 and 17 year old 9th graders are having second thoughts. Big difference between playing hard and playing like a bunch of scumbags. Signed, A Real Christian

What was the despicable behavior?

Fellowship of Cheating Aholes

FCA is the new Crabs. 👑 of the holdback realm. Boy those UNC coaches must be having second thoughts about verbally committing all those meatheads.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ has a lot be proud of, FCA should be embarrassed, parents, players and coaches owe lots of people apologies for their despicable behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if the colleges that recruited their 16 and 17 year old 9th graders are having second thoughts. Big difference between playing hard and playing like a bunch of scumbags. Signed, A Real Christian

What does fl$ have to be proud of, not acting like FCA?
fl$ went 1-3 and beat a team that was the worst in the tournament.
They should be proud they didn't go 0-4,like Igloo 2020.
Igloo's much heralded 2021 team lost to 91 again by a bunch.
Long ride home for the arrogant head penguin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ has a lot be proud of, FCA should be embarrassed, parents, players and coaches owe lots of people apologies for their despicable behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if the colleges that recruited their 16 and 17 year old 9th graders are having second thoughts. Big difference between playing hard and playing like a bunch of scumbags. Signed, A Real Christian

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ has a lot be proud of, FCA should be embarrassed, parents, players and coaches owe lots of people apologies for their despicable behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if the colleges that recruited their 16 and 17 year old 9th graders are having second thoughts. Big difference between playing hard and playing like a bunch of scumbags. Signed, A Real Christian

You're right to say that some of the behavior by the fca players in today's game was unacceptable. Most of our players were respectful and played hard and did what they could to try to make up for two or three of their teammates who behaved badly and put the fca team at a disadvantage for a lot of the game. As far as the fca parents, there was no one screaming more loudly at our own player to stop the unacceptable hit (for which our team was assigned an enormous penalty and he was ejected from the game) than the fca parents on the sidelines.
And by the way a real Christian would recognize that wishing ill will for others is sinful behavior.

Crush boys playing for FCA at Lake Placid.....Ironic?? Will they beat down Express tomorrow, or put on the brakes since many of the boys are playing for the Express coach in HS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ has a lot be proud of, FCA should be embarrassed, parents, players and coaches owe lots of people apologies for their despicable behavior. Wouldn't be surprised if the colleges that recruited their 16 and 17 year old 9th graders are having second thoughts. Big difference between playing hard and playing like a bunch of scumbags. Signed, A Real Christian

What does fl$ have to be proud of, not acting like FCA?
fl$ went 1-3 and beat a team that was the worst in the tournament.
They should be proud they didn't go 0-4,like Igloo 2020.
Igloo's much heralded 2021 team lost to 91 again by a bunch.
Long ride home for the arrogant head penguin.

Manhasset and CSH dads can buy showcase all star spots at FL$ events and make sure loud mouth Daler coach also picks their kids at rigged Nassau/Suffolk HS "tryout". What they can't do is make their kids more athletic. All the back slapping up at Plandome aint gonna change that! FL$ should take their medicine and go home rather than coming on here and crowing about their losing record and how much they have to be proud of. As for Igloo 2020, they are a middle of the road A/B team and had no business in this super high end AA tournament to begin with. Given the results, not sure FL$ belonged there either.

This team has demonstrated horrible behavior and unsportsmanlike conduct time and time again. It's the coaches and parents responsibility to address it and fix it. Those two or three players are the same ones that disrespect the game, other players and parents and it's well known who they are. I'd love to see an FCA parent reprimand their son immediately, but that never happens. It's well known that one of those same kids spit in the face of a defenseman during the Naptown tournament and yet he was right out there on the field again the next day. The kid who got the violent unreleasable penalty should be suspended or that parent should take him out of the game to get his priorities straightened out. I doubt that will happen. Lastly, nobody is wishing ill will for others, but you need to be responsible for your actions and there are consequences for consistently bad behavior.

His parents are not going to do anything - they encourage his behavior. Have you seen the way his mother behaves? I have to imagine UNC is just a wee bit concerned about bringing THAT into their house.

And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

fl$ was just fine. Lost to a better Express team. All the games were competitive and they beat Freedom as well. We're fine, Thank you. What are you so scorned and angry about? It's laughable reading your vitriol and its clear you have an agenda. Fun tournament. Now to enjoy the area and then head down to DC.

4-7 vs. Mad lax
5-8 vs. FCA
10-0 vs. Carolina
4-8 vs. LIE
6-5 vs. Freedom.

Yeah, they should all quit the game and take up polo...

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

Metzbower had a front row seat at the game. He saw it all. Not sure he had a chance to talk to the kid, supposedly # 44 jumped in his car and drove away right after the loss.

Fake News is Hilarious. Keep it coming

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fake News is Hilarious. Keep it coming

The real actions and reputation are hilarious enough, we're good, thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This team has demonstrated horrible behavior and unsportsmanlike conduct time and time again. It's the coaches and parents responsibility to address it and fix it. Those two or three players are the same ones that disrespect the game, other players and parents and it's well known who they are. I'd love to see an FCA parent reprimand their son immediately, but that never happens. It's well known that one of those same kids spit in the face of a defenseman during the Naptown tournament and yet he was right out there on the field again the next day. The kid who got the violent unreleasable penalty should be suspended or that parent should take him out of the game to get his priorities straightened out. I doubt that will happen. Lastly, nobody is wishing ill will for others, but you need to be responsible for your actions and there are consequences for consistently bad behavior.

For you to say that the entire team behaves that way is just not true. There is not a team anywhere that doesn't have a few bad apples. These kids are teenagers and they make mistakes. The hope is that the good kids influence the not so good kids to be better. You are correct in saying that consequences are in order and there's no one that would argue with that. But please don't say that the entire team, the entire coaching staff, and all of the parents are horrible and should be ashamed.

The same FCA parents that were screaming at our own player to stop hitting the LIE player also had a front row seat to see how the LIE FOGO was cheating on every single face off yet we didn't scream at the top of our lungs about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This team has demonstrated horrible behavior and unsportsmanlike conduct time and time again. It's the coaches and parents responsibility to address it and fix it. Those two or three players are the same ones that disrespect the game, other players and parents and it's well known who they are. I'd love to see an FCA parent reprimand their son immediately, but that never happens. It's well known that one of those same kids spit in the face of a defenseman during the Naptown tournament and yet he was right out there on the field again the next day. The kid who got the violent unreleasable penalty should be suspended or that parent should take him out of the game to get his priorities straightened out. I doubt that will happen. Lastly, nobody is wishing ill will for others, but you need to be responsible for your actions and there are consequences for consistently bad behavior.

For you to say that the entire team behaves that way is just not true. There is not a team anywhere that doesn't have a few bad apples. These kids are teenagers and they make mistakes. The hope is that the good kids influence the not so good kids to be better. You are correct in saying that consequences are in order and there's no one that would argue with that. But please don't say that the entire team, the entire coaching staff, and all of the parents are horrible and should be ashamed.

The same FCA parents that were screaming at our own player to stop hitting the LIE player also had a front row seat to see how the LIE FOGO was cheating on every single face off yet we didn't scream at the top of our lungs about it.

Sorry, Maryland team complaining about Maryland refs? Pleeease... What your team should have done is have one of your middies take out the LIE fogo. Oh wait, you did that to. Since these players are older shouldn't they be more mature then the younger players they play against? Setting the good example?

No.not.every.team.has.bad.apples.

Boohoo - LIE FOGO was cheating.

Better bring more re-classed kids next time.

How was the LIE FOGO cheating on every faceoff? If you are gonna make that accusation at least back it up. I would love to hear your explanation.

Wow! Calling out kids, no matter their behavior is really low. Did you have the ball$ to confront his parents? Or did you just come on BOTC to make a point? What a chicken $hit. If you're going to take the time to admonish on BOTC why not say something in person, since you know who the parents are? Scared?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Best line ever. Truth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This team has demonstrated horrible behavior and unsportsmanlike conduct time and time again. It's the coaches and parents responsibility to address it and fix it. Those two or three players are the same ones that disrespect the game, other players and parents and it's well known who they are. I'd love to see an FCA parent reprimand their son immediately, but that never happens. It's well known that one of those same kids spit in the face of a defenseman during the Naptown tournament and yet he was right out there on the field again the next day. The kid who got the violent unreleasable penalty should be suspended or that parent should take him out of the game to get his priorities straightened out. I doubt that will happen. Lastly, nobody is wishing ill will for others, but you need to be responsible for your actions and there are consequences for consistently bad behavior.

For you to say that the entire team behaves that way is just not true. There is not a team anywhere that doesn't have a few bad apples. These kids are teenagers and they make mistakes. The hope is that the good kids influence the not so good kids to be better. You are correct in saying that consequences are in order and there's no one that would argue with that. But please don't say that the entire team, the entire coaching staff, and all of the parents are horrible and should be ashamed.

The same FCA parents that were screaming at our own player to stop hitting the LIE player also had a front row seat to see how the LIE FOGO was cheating on every single face off yet we didn't scream at the top of our lungs about it.

Nice excuse drop. Knew that was coming. Oh, and yeah, you aren't supposed to be screaming at your own players or the opponents, because you aren't, you know, the coach or referee. Parents are supposed to do some positive cheering and pretend they understand what they are watching. Half the reason for the poor behavior on the field is the simple fact that the players were born to parents that don't know when to shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Calling out kids, no matter their behavior is really low. Did you have the ball$ to confront his parents? Or did you just come on BOTC to make a point? What a chicken $hit. If you're going to take the time to admonish on BOTC why not say something in person, since you know who the parents are? Scared?

After taking such a shellacking and embarrassing the family, my guess would be out of pity.

Fake News

Is Express ready for a beatdown on TV?

Crush -5
Lay the wood.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush -5
Lay the wood.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Express ready for a beatdown on TV?

i gave up trying to figure out how to stream it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Calling out kids, no matter their behavior is really low. Did you have the ball$ to confront his parents? Or did you just come on BOTC to make a point? What a chicken $hit. If you're going to take the time to admonish on BOTC why not say something in person, since you know who the parents are? Scared?

After taking such a shellacking and embarrassing the family, my guess would be out of pity.

So really what you're saying is you were afraid of getting smacked around by a lax mom. Thanks, pretty sure I know the type of guy you are.

17-5 Final. Tough day for Terps defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

17-5 Final. Tough day for Terps defense.

Defense? The whole team stinks!

If they brought the entire nassau team down not a hybrid team would have been much different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Best line ever. Truth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

17-5 Final. Tough day for Terps defense.

Defense? The whole team stinks!

Maybe FCA glad they lost. Avoid a smackdown on TV and all the accompanying player shenanigans...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

17-5 Final. Tough day for Terps defense.

C'mon that score is hardly a surprise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If they brought the entire nassau team down not a hybrid team would have been much different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Best line ever. Truth

FL$ is way over-rated. Give it a rest already dude. And, by the way, there are holdbacks on FL$ too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

17-5 Final. Tough day for Terps defense.

Defense? The whole team stinks!

Not true, but clearly 89+2 was intent on making a point.....and did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Calling out kids, no matter their behavior is really low. Did you have the ball$ to confront his parents? Or did you just come on BOTC to make a point? What a chicken $hit. If you're going to take the time to admonish on BOTC why not say something in person, since you know who the parents are? Scared?

Coaches should worry less about winning and more about instilling character. This has been going on for years with this FCA team and they are indeed older so one would hope more mature. . And not every team has bad apples as they have parents and coaches who will not stand for that kind of behavior and there are real consequences but they won't sit their starters and the players know it. Why do you stand for it and stay if you feel like your child is being painted with the same brush or if coaches are not addressing?

There are no holdbacks on fl$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If they brought the entire nassau team down not a hybrid team would have been much different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Best line ever. Truth

FL$ is way over-rated. Give it a rest already dude. And, by the way, there are holdbacks on FL$ too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are no holdbacks on fl$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If they brought the entire nassau team down not a hybrid team would have been much different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Best line ever. Truth

FL$ is way over-rated. Give it a rest already dude. And, by the way, there are holdbacks on FL$ too.

FL$ may not win the tournaments but results in getting boys recruited speak for themselves. My son played with them starting in summer of 9th grade. Every single player was recruited and will be playing in college next spring. Philosophy is great - HS team comes first, and equal playing time. It's about exposure, and that is what you get.

I guess if you boil it down, all teams are over-rated except for 91 orange. But does it really matter???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Don't have a holdback but now that kids are heading into 10th grade & bragging about playing varsity, can we stop complaining about hold backs??? Good kids can play against anyone. Move the ball & you won't get cheap shots by an immature holdback. Can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

You are correct, he is what you called him but his father is a real head case. I am surprised UNC even approached this player with a verbal, his parents are at every game, (Crabs and FCA) and the way they act had to be clear to UNC personnel. He is not that good of a player to overlook the way the parents act to want him for their program. He takes after his father, who is a real meat head. As for FCA Md. head coach doing anything, that will never happen. This coach is also the head coach of Calvert Hall HS and to everyone's surprise, won coach of the year, based on Calvert Hall winning the MIAA championship. This had to be because of the asst. coaches as Bryon Kelly is not that good of a coach, either FCA or CH and doesn't have a high lax IQ. He doesn't discipline his players when they act out like #44, he is a BS artist and sells it to players and parents. The FCA is nothing but a front, that team is so far from Christian it doesn't come close. Kelly will try to get you to believe it is faith driven but it's not even close. Letting a player like #44 act like that (and it is not the first time for #44) and not take control is a clear vision of what he stands for. Right Curtis!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

You are correct, he is what you called him but his father is a real head case. I am surprised UNC even approached this player with a verbal, his parents are at every game, (Crabs and FCA) and the way they act had to be clear to UNC personnel. He is not that good of a player to overlook the way the parents act to want him for their program. He takes after his father, who is a real meat head. As for FCA Md. head coach doing anything, that will never happen. This coach is also the head coach of Calvert Hall HS and to everyone's surprise, won coach of the year, based on Calvert Hall winning the MIAA championship. This had to be because of the asst. coaches as Bryon Kelly is not that good of a coach, either FCA or CH and doesn't have a high lax IQ. He doesn't discipline his players when they act out like #44, he is a BS artist and sells it to players and parents. The FCA is nothing but a front, that team is so far from Christian it doesn't come close. Kelly will try to get you to believe it is faith driven but it's not even close. Letting a player like #44 act like that (and it is not the first time for #44) and not take control is a clear vision of what he stands for. Right Curtis!!

All the turds are wound up.........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess if you boil it down, all teams are over-rated except for 91 orange. But does it really matter???

Crush is good but if you watched the game, the LIE defense did not play very well at all. Maybe just a rough day but they seemed way off. I think other teams would have given Crush a better game. Props to LIE for getting to the game though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess if you boil it down, all teams are over-rated except for 91 orange. But does it really matter???

Crush is good but if you watched the game, the LIE defense did not play very well at all. Maybe just a rough day but they seemed way off. I think other teams would have given Crush a better game. Props to LIE for getting to the game though.

Not just the Defendse but the LIE Goaltending as well. I heard the starter is going to prep school next year to reclass. Sad when parents do that to their kids

Didn't there used to be an Express thread on here? What happened to that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

You are correct, he is what you called him but his father is a real head case. I am surprised UNC even approached this player with a verbal, his parents are at every game, (Crabs and FCA) and the way they act had to be clear to UNC personnel. He is not that good of a player to overlook the way the parents act to want him for their program. He takes after his father, who is a real meat head. As for FCA Md. head coach doing anything, that will never happen. This coach is also the head coach of Calvert Hall HS and to everyone's surprise, won coach of the year, based on Calvert Hall winning the MIAA championship. This had to be because of the asst. coaches as Bryon Kelly is not that good of a coach, either FCA or CH and doesn't have a high lax IQ. He doesn't discipline his players when they act out like #44, he is a BS artist and sells it to players and parents. The FCA is nothing but a front, that team is so far from Christian it doesn't come close. Kelly will try to get you to believe it is faith driven but it's not even close. Letting a player like #44 act like that (and it is not the first time for #44) and not take control is a clear vision of what he stands for. Right Curtis!!

All the turds are wound up.........

Is that you Cutis aka Jamie?

So sad??? the kid is going to an elite prep school vs. the bottom of the shoe education your little guido will be getting at St. A's. So uneducated your statement and perception. Poor kid. Good luck to him punching the clock when he gets out of whatever podunk school is the first you a dollar or with his coaching career when he finishes (if) up at lax u.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

You are correct, he is what you called him but his father is a real head case. I am surprised UNC even approached this player with a verbal, his parents are at every game, (Crabs and FCA) and the way they act had to be clear to UNC personnel. He is not that good of a player to overlook the way the parents act to want him for their program. He takes after his father, who is a real meat head. As for FCA Md. head coach doing anything, that will never happen. This coach is also the head coach of Calvert Hall HS and to everyone's surprise, won coach of the year, based on Calvert Hall winning the MIAA championship. This had to be because of the asst. coaches as Bryon Kelly is not that good of a coach, either FCA or CH and doesn't have a high lax IQ. He doesn't discipline his players when they act out like #44, he is a BS artist and sells it to players and parents. The FCA is nothing but a front, that team is so far from Christian it doesn't come close. Kelly will try to get you to believe it is faith driven but it's not even close. Letting a player like #44 act like that (and it is not the first time for #44) and not take control is a clear vision of what he stands for. Right Curtis!!

All the turds are wound up.........

Is that you Cutis aka Jamie?

Get the number, just get the number, total dbag

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

You are correct, he is what you called him but his father is a real head case. I am surprised UNC even approached this player with a verbal, his parents are at every game, (Crabs and FCA) and the way they act had to be clear to UNC personnel. He is not that good of a player to overlook the way the parents act to want him for their program. He takes after his father, who is a real meat head. As for FCA Md. head coach doing anything, that will never happen. This coach is also the head coach of Calvert Hall HS and to everyone's surprise, won coach of the year, based on Calvert Hall winning the MIAA championship. This had to be because of the asst. coaches as Bryon Kelly is not that good of a coach, either FCA or CH and doesn't have a high lax IQ. He doesn't discipline his players when they act out like #44, he is a BS artist and sells it to players and parents. The FCA is nothing but a front, that team is so far from Christian it doesn't come close. Kelly will try to get you to believe it is faith driven but it's not even close. Letting a player like #44 act like that (and it is not the first time for #44) and not take control is a clear vision of what he stands for. Right Curtis!!

All the turds are wound up.........

Is that you Cutis aka Jamie?

Get the number, just get the number, total dbag

This sounds like Curtis aka Jamie. What number are you talking about #44??? No room for you to call anyone a dbag, just look in the mirror. [lacrosse]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

You are correct, he is what you called him but his father is a real head case. I am surprised UNC even approached this player with a verbal, his parents are at every game, (Crabs and FCA) and the way they act had to be clear to UNC personnel. He is not that good of a player to overlook the way the parents act to want him for their program. He takes after his father, who is a real meat head. As for FCA Md. head coach doing anything, that will never happen. This coach is also the head coach of Calvert Hall HS and to everyone's surprise, won coach of the year, based on Calvert Hall winning the MIAA championship. This had to be because of the asst. coaches as Bryon Kelly is not that good of a coach, either FCA or CH and doesn't have a high lax IQ. He doesn't discipline his players when they act out like #44, he is a BS artist and sells it to players and parents. The FCA is nothing but a front, that team is so far from Christian it doesn't come close. Kelly will try to get you to believe it is faith driven but it's not even close. Letting a player like #44 act like that (and it is not the first time for #44) and not take control is a clear vision of what he stands for. Right Curtis!!

All the turds are wound up.........

Is that you Cutis aka Jamie?

Get the number, just get the number, total dbag

This sounds like Curtis aka Jamie. What number are you talking about #44??? No room for you to call anyone a dbag, just look in the mirror. [lacrosse]

He yells that to his kid, as in retaliate next chance if someone beats him on a play, clean or not. It's great.

My son is a 2020 and last summer it was totally crazy how many coaches were on the sidelines, this summer a few here and there. Any my son is on a team that is playing at all the top events. Has there been any coaches on the 2021 sidelines? I am super happy about the fact that is does look like the coaches are following the new rules. I have to also say, I have noticed plenty of 2029 "commits" having less than stellar summers. Looks like the pressure may be getting to some of them, IMO air looks like they are trying to do too much. Also, some of the "commits" that are older have now lost their edge and are really struggling. Just my observation, anyone else have input?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]And that same 16 year old ( as the parent on the sidelines says) was laughing by the burger stand after FCA got their [lacrosse] kicked and told his teammates "I'm gna snake one of those gatorades from the cooler" ....after watching he didn't but the fact that he was even thinking about it while laughing after his team got his [lacrosse] kicked and was an embarrassment to his team and the values his team is supposed to be built upon shows the character of that kid. He has much more to be ashamed about. He will keep laughing all the way to NC and one could only hope the coach sees beyond the athletic skills (which were not on showcase this weekend for sure) and see the cheap shot artist holdback that he really is. Put that on your highlight reel #44. Your a punk !

You are correct, he is what you called him but his father is a real head case. I am surprised UNC even approached this player with a verbal, his parents are at every game, (Crabs and FCA) and the way they act had to be clear to UNC personnel. He is not that good of a player to overlook the way the parents act to want him for their program. He takes after his father, who is a real meat head. As for FCA Md. head coach doing anything, that will never happen. This coach is also the head coach of Calvert Hall HS and to everyone's surprise, won coach of the year, based on Calvert Hall winning the MIAA championship. This had to be because of the asst. coaches as Bryon Kelly is not that good of a coach, either FCA or CH and doesn't have a high lax IQ. He doesn't discipline his players when they act out like #44, he is a BS artist and sells it to players and parents. The FCA is nothing but a front, that team is so far from Christian it doesn't come close. Kelly will try to get you to believe it is faith driven but it's not even close. Letting a player like #44 act like that (and it is not the first time for #44) and not take control is a clear vision of what he stands for. Right Curtis!!

All the turds are wound up.........

Is that you Cutis aka Jamie?

Get the number, just get the number, total dbag

This sounds like Curtis aka Jamie. What number are you talking about #44??? No room for you to call anyone a dbag, just look in the mirror. [lacrosse]

He yells that to his kid, as in retaliate next chance if someone beats him on a play, clean or not. It's great.

Great? you think what Curtis does is great. That meat head does nothing great but make a total as* of himself. Even some of the other parents can't stand him. Now he has #44 acting the same way. UNC might just reconsider their verbal, since it is not binding and just say see you later #44, and take your father with you. We don't need or want either of you at UNC. Just may happen.

Just saw that Team 88+3 got rocked at Crabfeast. Are they really that bad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a 2020 and last summer it was totally crazy how many coaches were on the sidelines, this summer a few here and there. Any my son is on a team that is playing at all the top events. Has there been any coaches on the 2021 sidelines? I am super happy about the fact that is does look like the coaches are following the new rules. I have to also say, I have noticed plenty of 2029 "commits" having less than stellar summers. Looks like the pressure may be getting to some of them, IMO air looks like they are trying to do too much. Also, some of the "commits" that are older have now lost their edge and are really struggling. Just my observation, anyone else have input?

Was at a very prominent showcase earlier this summer with my 2020. Game before was 2018/2019 teams with 20+ coaches watching. When that was over and the 2020/2021 game was starting I'd say all but 2-3 coaches picked up their chairs and went elsewhere. Not scientific, but happened for each subsequent game that day. They were marginally interested in 2020s, not interested at all in 2021s and very clearly focused on 2018-2019s. I think a lot of parents realize this which is why there is less demand for prospect days and showcases for the younger kids. A showcase for freshman that a year ago sold out in 2 weeks is now only 40% full weeks after registration was opened. Coaches have changed their behavior and the market is reacting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw that Team 88+3 got rocked at Crabfeast. Are they really that bad?

DOPE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a 2020 and last summer it was totally crazy how many coaches were on the sidelines, this summer a few here and there. Any my son is on a team that is playing at all the top events. Has there been any coaches on the 2021 sidelines? I am super happy about the fact that is does look like the coaches are following the new rules. I have to also say, I have noticed plenty of 2029 "commits" having less than stellar summers. Looks like the pressure may be getting to some of them, IMO air looks like they are trying to do too much. Also, some of the "commits" that are older have now lost their edge and are really struggling. Just my observation, anyone else have input?

Was at a very prominent showcase earlier this summer with my 2020. Game before was 2018/2019 teams with 20+ coaches watching. When that was over and the 2020/2021 game was starting I'd say all but 2-3 coaches picked up their chairs and went elsewhere. Not scientific, but happened for each subsequent game that day. They were marginally interested in 2020s, not interested at all in 2021s and very clearly focused on 2018-2019s. I think a lot of parents realize this which is why there is less demand for prospect days and showcases for the younger kids. A showcase for freshman that a year ago sold out in 2 weeks is now only 40% full weeks after registration was opened. Coaches have changed their behavior and the market is reacting.

I completely agree. We had the exact same experience observing college coach attendance for 2020 (perhaps were at the same tournament) and have personally been very conservative this year about signing up for prospect days. Waiting to focus on next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a 2020 and last summer it was totally crazy how many coaches were on the sidelines, this summer a few here and there. Any my son is on a team that is playing at all the top events. Has there been any coaches on the 2021 sidelines? I am super happy about the fact that is does look like the coaches are following the new rules. I have to also say, I have noticed plenty of 2029 "commits" having less than stellar summers. Looks like the pressure may be getting to some of them, IMO air looks like they are trying to do too much. Also, some of the "commits" that are older have now lost their edge and are really struggling. Just my observation, anyone else have input?

Was at a very prominent showcase earlier this summer with my 2020. Game before was 2018/2019 teams with 20+ coaches watching. When that was over and the 2020/2021 game was starting I'd say all but 2-3 coaches picked up their chairs and went elsewhere. Not scientific, but happened for each subsequent game that day. They were marginally interested in 2020s, not interested at all in 2021s and very clearly focused on 2018-2019s. I think a lot of parents realize this which is why there is less demand for prospect days and showcases for the younger kids. A showcase for freshman that a year ago sold out in 2 weeks is now only 40% full weeks after registration was opened. Coaches have changed their behavior and the market is reacting.

I completely agree. We had the exact same experience observing college coach attendance for 2020 (perhaps were at the same tournament) and have personally been very conservative this year about signing up for prospect days. Waiting to focus on next year.

yep!

How's 91 orange?

orange is not a very good team, very high turnover and not a committed bunch. Been on the team, I know.

Late Summer updated rankings:

1. Looneys
2. Crush
3. Crabs
4. FCA
5. Leading Edge
6. West Coast Stars
7. Big 4 HHH
8.Madlax
9.Edge
10.NXT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Late Summer updated rankings:

1. Looneys
2. Crush
3. Crabs
4. FCA
5. Leading Edge
6. West Coast Stars
7. Big 4 HHH
8.Madlax
9.Edge
10.NXT

Give it up, too many teams could beat each other on any given day. No way to have an actual ranking, and did Looneys even ever play Crush?

Silly list - Crabs got demolished by 91 and lost to Hawks, LIE crushed FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Silly list - Crabs got demolished by 91 and lost to Hawks, LIE crushed FCA

Express was blown out by 91, also recently lost to Crabs and Stars. They got lucky against FCA, wouldn't happen again. They are a 10-20 team, closer to 10. Need to have more quality wins. Crabs can't beat Crush but are the in the top tier, nobody else comes close. Would like to see Crush play Looneys again, don't think they would win again, but they did win so until they meet again they are on top. Hawks deserve a place in top 10, maybe bump down Stars.

Crabs and FCA - where holdbacks rule.

Looney's, FCA & Crabs should post the birthdates of their kids - until then - I can't take them seriously. I don't care how good they are - they should be good - their rosters are full of older kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's, FCA & Crabs should post the birthdates of their kids - until then - I can't take them seriously. I don't care how good they are - they should be good - their rosters are full of older kids.

Boo hoo, sorry your kid can't make any of the listed teams. You have no idea what you are talking about and if you think for one minute the lesser performing 2020 teams do not have holdbacks, you are kidding yourself. Plus, you want these teams to list on a public form the DOB of kids, you are really out of your mind. No one really cares who you do and don't take seriously. You need to spend your time on something that will help you kid get better, not crying over this stuff. .

Boo hoo, sorry your kid can't make any of the listed teams. You have no idea what you are talking about and if you think for one minute the lesser performing 2020 teams do not have holdbacks, you are kidding yourself. Plus, you want these teams to list on a public form the DOB of kids, you are really out of your mind. No one really cares who you do and don't take seriously. You need to spend your time on something that will help you kid get better, not crying over this stuff.

I don't live in MD and I can assure you if I did - I wouldn't reclass my kids multiple times in order to gain an advantage on the lacrosse field. I know that's how you Baltimore folks roll.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's, FCA & Crabs should post the birthdates of their kids - until then - I can't take them seriously. I don't care how good they are - they should be good - their rosters are full of older kids.

Boo hoo, sorry your kid can't make any of the listed teams. You have no idea what you are talking about and if you think for one minute the lesser performing 2020 teams do not have holdbacks, you are kidding yourself. Plus, you want these teams to list on a public form the DOB of kids, you are really out of your mind. No one really cares who you do and don't take seriously. You need to spend your time on something that will help you kid get better, not crying over this stuff. .

What he said!

spoken by the cheating parent of a holdback .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boo hoo, sorry your kid can't make any of the listed teams. You have no idea what you are talking about and if you think for one minute the lesser performing 2020 teams do not have holdbacks, you are kidding yourself. Plus, you want these teams to list on a public form the DOB of kids, you are really out of your mind. No one really cares who you do and don't take seriously. You need to spend your time on something that will help you kid get better, not crying over this stuff.

I don't live in MD and I can assure you if I did - I wouldn't reclass my kids multiple times in order to gain an advantage on the lacrosse field. I know that's how you Baltimore folks roll.....

. . . and they're proud of it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boo hoo, sorry your kid can't make any of the listed teams. You have no idea what you are talking about and if you think for one minute the lesser performing 2020 teams do not have holdbacks, you are kidding yourself. Plus, you want these teams to list on a public form the DOB of kids, you are really out of your mind. No one really cares who you do and don't take seriously. You need to spend your time on something that will help you kid get better, not crying over this stuff.

I don't live in MD and I can assure you if I did - I wouldn't reclass my kids multiple times in order to gain an advantage on the lacrosse field. I know that's how you Baltimore folks roll.....

Most people are misinformed about this hold back argument. Private schools across the country are evolving and almost universally adopting a pre-first option curriculum. This leads to many lateral transfers for those that go from public to private eventually. This is education evolving (or at least private, not so much with the government public). 95% of the decisions related to this stuff are based on providing a better education for their kids. Yes, in youth sports this leads to an age gap in grade based leagues. No, it doesn't mean that every elementary school or middle school parent out there is on some nefarious plot to game a system. Most of the HS leagues that play against each other have similar curriculums, so not much debate goes on within HS leagues. Club HS leagues are never going to go to age, because age has no bearing in HS (except for cap in most leagues) and no bearing in College, grade does. Colleges don't care, or would see it as a plus for prospects to have an extra year of school, so never going to get pressure from that end. Varsity HS and College life is competitive, as life is competitive, not all in life is fair, and quite frankly, by the time you hit 18-19, you either have the skill to move on, or don't. So what are we left with - youth debate over age vs. grade. Now that club has turned into expensive recreation ball, give people a choice with two leagues, age and grade. Helicopter parents just want their kid to win, so set up a huge age-based league for the majority of the clubs to play, and keep a smaller middle school/high school grade-based league for strong developmental HS preparation clubs/teams. Heck, give the age-based kids two classes per birthday year, to head off the next argument that late birthday kids are getting an advantage, 6 month spreads, instead of 12. Then we can go back to arguing every time a B team wins the 'ship, how they should have been A. Those were the days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

spoken by the cheating parent of a holdback .

Use college graduation rates coming out of private or public as the baseline measure of setting up the grade based league. That being said, just let public school kids play -1 grade if they want. My private hs school kid is playing the grade it says on his report card. My kid's team will just pick up a couple public school studs to make his team better than it already is, and let those 2 or 3 kids explain to coaches why they are playing in that league, instead of the other 20 kids that are playing exactly the grade their report card says, as authorized by the State having jurisdiction. Oh, you don't want to have to do that, well guess what, either do I, so go pound sand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boo hoo, sorry your kid can't make any of the listed teams. You have no idea what you are talking about and if you think for one minute the lesser performing 2020 teams do not have holdbacks, you are kidding yourself. Plus, you want these teams to list on a public form the DOB of kids, you are really out of your mind. No one really cares who you do and don't take seriously. You need to spend your time on something that will help you kid get better, not crying over this stuff.

I don't live in MD and I can assure you if I did - I wouldn't reclass my kids multiple times in order to gain an advantage on the lacrosse field. I know that's how you Baltimore folks roll.....

Most people are misinformed about this hold back argument. Private schools across the country are evolving and almost universally adopting a pre-first option curriculum. This leads to many lateral transfers for those that go from public to private eventually. This is education evolving (or at least private, not so much with the government public). 95% of the decisions related to this stuff are based on providing a better education for their kids. Yes, in youth sports this leads to an age gap in grade based leagues. No, it doesn't mean that every elementary school or middle school parent out there is on some nefarious plot to game a system. Most of the HS leagues that play against each other have similar curriculums, so not much debate goes on within HS leagues. Club HS leagues are never going to go to age, because age has no bearing in HS (except for cap in most leagues) and no bearing in College, grade does. Colleges don't care, or would see it as a plus for prospects to have an extra year of school, so never going to get pressure from that end. Varsity HS and College life is competitive, as life is competitive, not all in life is fair, and quite frankly, by the time you hit 18-19, you either have the skill to move on, or don't. So what are we left with - youth debate over age vs. grade. Now that club has turned into expensive recreation ball, give people a choice with two leagues, age and grade. Helicopter parents just want their kid to win, so set up a huge age-based league for the majority of the clubs to play, and keep a smaller middle school/high school grade-based league for strong developmental HS preparation clubs/teams. Heck, give the age-based kids two classes per birthday year, to head off the next argument that late birthday kids are getting an advantage, 6 month spreads, instead of 12. Then we can go back to arguing every time a B team wins the 'ship, how they should have been A. Those were the days.

Hey, the 1980s called, and soccer, hockey, and baseball want their old governing system rules back . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

spoken by the cheating parent of a holdback .

Use college graduation rates coming out of private or public as the baseline measure of setting up the grade based league. That being said, just let public school kids play -1 grade if they want. My private hs school kid is playing the grade it says on his report card. My kid's team will just pick up a couple public school studs to make his team better than it already is, and let those 2 or 3 kids explain to coaches why they are playing in that league, instead of the other 20 kids that are playing exactly the grade their report card says, as authorized by the State having jurisdiction. Oh, you don't want to have to do that, well guess what, either do I, so go pound sand.

Can't wait to see the expression on the faces of wise asses like you when this all goes age. Its slowly but surely heading that way. Now with the new recruiting rules, and much tighter window to make decisions on players, coaches really need to make the right choice. Age classification will now become the rule. A good 17-18 year old rising college freshman has much more upside potential than a 20 yo. They are about as good as they're going to be. Coaches are starting to realize this, way to many double holdback recruiting busts out there. You only need to look at UVA and Hop to see how it's not panning out. Better get Jr a commitment as soon as you can... Otherwise those 16 years of private school will be all for not!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

spoken by the cheating parent of a holdback .

Use college graduation rates coming out of private or public as the baseline measure of setting up the grade based league. That being said, just let public school kids play -1 grade if they want. My private hs school kid is playing the grade it says on his report card. My kid's team will just pick up a couple public school studs to make his team better than it already is, and let those 2 or 3 kids explain to coaches why they are playing in that league, instead of the other 20 kids that are playing exactly the grade their report card says, as authorized by the State having jurisdiction. Oh, you don't want to have to do that, well guess what, either do I, so go pound sand.

Can't wait to see the expression on the faces of wise asses like you when this all goes age. Its slowly but surely heading that way. Now with the new recruiting rules, and much tighter window to make decisions on players, coaches really need to make the right choice. Age classification will now become the rule. A good 17-18 year old rising college freshman has much more upside potential than a 20 yo. They are about as good as they're going to be. Coaches are starting to realize this, way to many double holdback recruiting busts out there. You only need to look at UVA and Hop to see how it's not panning out. Better get Jr a commitment as soon as you can... Otherwise those 16 years of private school will be all for not!

My kid just finished his first year, most of the Freshman were holdbacks and mostly cared about drinking beer and getting away from their overbearing parents. Most will not see much of the field. They are happy being one of the boyz. I see this ending soon. Just so dumb in every way for a person with even half a brain. Kind of like insider trading.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

spoken by the cheating parent of a holdback .

Use college graduation rates coming out of private or public as the baseline measure of setting up the grade based league. That being said, just let public school kids play -1 grade if they want. My private hs school kid is playing the grade it says on his report card. My kid's team will just pick up a couple public school studs to make his team better than it already is, and let those 2 or 3 kids explain to coaches why they are playing in that league, instead of the other 20 kids that are playing exactly the grade their report card says, as authorized by the State having jurisdiction. Oh, you don't want to have to do that, well guess what, either do I, so go pound sand.

Can't wait to see the expression on the faces of wise asses like you when this all goes age. Its slowly but surely heading that way. Now with the new recruiting rules, and much tighter window to make decisions on players, coaches really need to make the right choice. Age classification will now become the rule. A good 17-18 year old rising college freshman has much more upside potential than a 20 yo. They are about as good as they're going to be. Coaches are starting to realize this, way to many double holdback recruiting busts out there. You only need to look at UVA and Hop to see how it's not panning out. Better get Jr a commitment as soon as you can... Otherwise those 16 years of private school will be all for not!

My kid just finished his first year, most of the Freshman were holdbacks and mostly cared about drinking beer and getting away from their overbearing parents. Most will not see much of the field. They are happy being one of the boyz. I see this ending soon. Just so dumb in every way for a person with even half a brain. Kind of like insider trading.

Holdback is not a breed of dog. You have nothing to add, you made up your drivel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

spoken by the cheating parent of a holdback .

Use college graduation rates coming out of private or public as the baseline measure of setting up the grade based league. That being said, just let public school kids play -1 grade if they want. My private hs school kid is playing the grade it says on his report card. My kid's team will just pick up a couple public school studs to make his team better than it already is, and let those 2 or 3 kids explain to coaches why they are playing in that league, instead of the other 20 kids that are playing exactly the grade their report card says, as authorized by the State having jurisdiction. Oh, you don't want to have to do that, well guess what, either do I, so go pound sand.

Can't wait to see the expression on the faces of wise asses like you when this all goes age. Its slowly but surely heading that way. Now with the new recruiting rules, and much tighter window to make decisions on players, coaches really need to make the right choice. Age classification will now become the rule. A good 17-18 year old rising college freshman has much more upside potential than a 20 yo. They are about as good as they're going to be. Coaches are starting to realize this, way to many double holdback recruiting busts out there. You only need to look at UVA and Hop to see how it's not panning out. Better get Jr a commitment as soon as you can... Otherwise those 16 years of private school will be all for not!

Uh, yeah, recruiting way down at private schools, ha ha, that is a funny one! Keep it coming, give us some more...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

spoken by the cheating parent of a holdback .

Use college graduation rates coming out of private or public as the baseline measure of setting up the grade based league. That being said, just let public school kids play -1 grade if they want. My private hs school kid is playing the grade it says on his report card. My kid's team will just pick up a couple public school studs to make his team better than it already is, and let those 2 or 3 kids explain to coaches why they are playing in that league, instead of the other 20 kids that are playing exactly the grade their report card says, as authorized by the State having jurisdiction. Oh, you don't want to have to do that, well guess what, either do I, so go pound sand.

Can't wait to see the expression on the faces of wise asses like you when this all goes age. Its slowly but surely heading that way. Now with the new recruiting rules, and much tighter window to make decisions on players, coaches really need to make the right choice. Age classification will now become the rule. A good 17-18 year old rising college freshman has much more upside potential than a 20 yo. They are about as good as they're going to be. Coaches are starting to realize this, way to many double holdback recruiting busts out there. You only need to look at UVA and Hop to see how it's not panning out. Better get Jr a commitment as soon as you can... Otherwise those 16 years of private school will be all for not!

My kid just finished his first year, most of the Freshman were holdbacks and mostly cared about drinking beer and getting away from their overbearing parents. Most will not see much of the field. They are happy being one of the boyz. I see this ending soon. Just so dumb in every way for a person with even half a brain. Kind of like insider trading.

This sounds about right...

You weren't on this years team. They actually played pretty well this year. Winning record in top tournaments. They beat (LIE-2nd team) this last weekend at NLF. Will only get better...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

orange is not a very good team, very high turnover and not a committed bunch. Been on the team, I know.

You weren't on this years team. They actually played pretty well this year. Winning record in top tournaments. They beat (LIE-2nd team) this last weekend at NLF. Will only get better...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

orange is not a very good team, very high turnover and not a committed bunch. Been on the team, I know.

You weren't on this years team. They actually played pretty well this year. Winning record in top tournaments. They beat (LIE-2nd team) this last weekend at NLF. Will only get better...

Any word on who may be jumping from their clubs to new turtle organization?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

orange is not a very good team, very high turnover and not a committed bunch. Been on the team, I know.

You weren't on this years team. They actually played pretty well this year. Winning record in top tournaments. They beat (LIE-2nd team) this last weekend at NLF. Will only get better...

Is that something to brag about? Orange will always be a second rate b team, no matter how you try to spin it. Would not want my son on that team during this very important recruiting year.

The Kings clothes never look quiet as good the second time around. Good luck with the TT's redoux. The guy has an over inflated view of his transformational lax prowess...he'll attract the disgruntled and the delusional and whoever else didn't make igloo. IF you can't beat 'em, make your own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Kings clothes never look quiet as good the second time around. Good luck with the TT's redoux. The guy has an over inflated view of his transformational lax prowess...he'll attract the disgruntled and the delusional and whoever else didn't make igloo. IF you can't beat 'em, make your own.

So 'good', you had to post this on two different boards??

That are relevant to me, um yes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That are relevant to me, um yes.

Again, another poster who doesn't know how to use these boards, IE, essentially what amounts to an erroneous post . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

orange is not a very good team, very high turnover and not a committed bunch. Been on the team, I know.

You weren't on this years team. They actually played pretty well this year. Winning record in top tournaments. They beat (LIE-2nd team) this last weekend at NLF. Will only get better...

Any word on who may be jumping from their clubs to new turtle organization?

There will be some very good players going over this team, from what I hear. JD does not mess around.

Does anyone know any decent club in/around Anne arundel county that could use a fogo? Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know any decent club in/around Anne arundel county that could use a fogo? Thanks

FCA, Crabs, Madlax all struggled at the X this summer

Our family and I are Muslim,we wouldn't let my child play for FCA, MadLax is a bit too far. I'll look into crabs, do you have any other recommendations... like local clubs. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

orange is not a very good team, very high turnover and not a committed bunch. Been on the team, I know.

You weren't on this years team. They actually played pretty well this year. Winning record in top tournaments. They beat (LIE-2nd team) this last weekend at NLF. Will only get better...

Any word on who may be jumping from their clubs to new turtle organization?

There will be some very good players going over this team, from what I hear. JD does not mess around.

Just remember JD used to coach my sons express team and it was a mess, he was toxic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know any decent club in/around Anne arundel county that could use a fogo? Thanks

Check the Maryland forum.

Hawks is the big boy in Anne Arundel County - start there. Pro Start (Will Dalton's club), PLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks is the big boy in Anne Arundel County - start there. Pro Start (Will Dalton's club), PLC

Ok, thanks a lot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Best line ever. Truth

Mass exodus this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$'s biggest problem is there are no holdbacks... team needs to get older.

Best line ever. Truth

Mass exodus this year

They on't need hold backs, just stop taking so many midgets. I've never seen kids that small be successful at a high level

I'd expect 20% turnover--the same as every year... team hoppers move on, new group of good players comes in...yawn.

Heard Outlaws 2020 select falling apart, 2 fathers from team coaching now??

FL$ is just fine. Big recruiting year coming up. I'm sure tryouts will be competitive just like every year. Nasssu team. Suffolk team. Compiled team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Outlaws 2020 select falling apart, 2 fathers from team coaching now??

Wrong, but nice try. Team is actually going to upgrade big time.

Manhasset Daddies finally leaving FL$

FL$ will finally be Manhaset Free at this age group. Follow their coach they will.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FL$ will finally be Manhaset Free at this age group. Follow their coach they will.

what club ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FL$ will finally be Manhaset Free at this age group. Follow their coach they will.

I thought FL$ was full of Manhasset at this age. Are they at Plandome hatching a new team because non have committed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

orange is not a very good team, very high turnover and not a committed bunch. Been on the team, I know.

You weren't on this years team. They actually played pretty well this year. Winning record in top tournaments. They beat (LIE-2nd team) this last weekend at NLF. Will only get better...

Any word on who may be jumping from their clubs to new turtle organization?

There will be some very good players going over this team, from what I hear. JD does not mess around.

Just remember JD used to coach my sons express team and it was a mess, he was toxic

We had a different experience as did other parents on the team. JD is all in. He will likely pull some kids from Express. That program has stalled and parents are looking for a change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Outlaws 2020 select falling apart, 2 fathers from team coaching now??

Wrong, but nice try. Team is actually going to upgrade big time.

Upgrading coaches? players? what's changing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

orange is not a very good team, very high turnover and not a committed bunch. Been on the team, I know.

You weren't on this years team. They actually played pretty well this year. Winning record in top tournaments. They beat (LIE-2nd team) this last weekend at NLF. Will only get better...

Any word on who may be jumping from their clubs to new turtle organization?

There will be some very good players going over this team, from what I hear. JD does not mess around.

Just remember JD used to coach my sons express team and it was a mess, he was toxic

We had a different experience as did other parents on the team. JD is all in. He will likely pull some kids from Express. That program has stalled and parents are looking for a change.

Not true

Every year we hear this crap about this team and that team getting all these disgruntled players, and it's going to be amazing. Facts are: the good teams will remain good, the mediocre teams remain that. Grass doesn't just start growing greener due to wishful thinking. No good player will leave an established travel team for snake oil promises. Unless they are a fool. The players that will leave are those who did not live up to expectations, so they are looking for some magic, probably won't turn out well.

Manhasset daddies are always looking for some secret advantage......They also like to move in a pack. No one family has the stones to go it alone.

Not surprise! Outlaws eventually get caught not telling kids/parents about which colleges were asking about their kid.....they make it sound like they help with recruiting and all they do is ruin it. Don't waste your money. Look into Express B or 91B team they are honest.

No dog in the fight but always like to point out the guy who can't see the irony in commenting on other people's lack of "stones," as he types away anonymously in his basement. Same guy high fiving parents on sidelines while talking behind their backs.

The whole pack is not moving...

Fab. Frosh this weekend. Anyone going?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fab. Frosh this weekend. Anyone going?

206 2020 players will be there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The whole pack is not moving...

Best player on the team is going. Team will fall apart

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The whole pack is not moving...

Best player on the team is going. Team will fall apart

Coach will try to bring in his high school players

Don't even consider heading to Express B. Whole team has been through a disaster of a year with a lack of practices and poor performance at lackluster tourneys. Spend your money elsewhere. Also a mass exodus on that team as well

Most important player on the team yes but team falling part c'mon there is still a lot of talent on that team.

Agreed. Face off player is a great player will be a key loss. That's it.

Syo Daddy here... the Manhasset Daddies all seem like decent guys. Kids are very good players too, if they left as a group the team would be hurting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Face off player is a great player will be a key loss. That's it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Face off player is a great player will be a key loss. That's it.

Why is he leaving?

Agreed with the above. And of course, there is like 10 of them on the current team.

I agree with Syo dad. We had a good season, boys played well as a team, parents all got along and boys all got along. Tournaments were fun. Every year on every team boys come and go. That's the business. Manhasset parents, CSH parents, Farmingdale parents, etc were all good people. People slinging mud at parents because they chose something other than what they might be doing is simply deranged. Focus on your own son and respect other people's right to do the same.

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fab. Frosh this weekend. Anyone going?

206 2020 players will be there

Could be wrong, but I'm thinking my money will be better spent next year to attend the afternoon session at this same showcase. "Super Sophs" which is just after Fab Froshs. That way he is more Top of mind when recruiting season finally opens up for these guys.

There was enough exposure at the summer tournaments we were at (albeit much less than past years' freshman!), but I think it's time to take the first weekend off since Mid June.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

I think you've been drinking a bit too much. Incoherent.

Thanks, you made it all clear for me. I'm going to leave FL$ or Igloo and join Terps immediately... And, Is Leg-a-c no longer in the conversation?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

Please don't put Crush and Terps together in the same group. Terps are just another team in the pack. There are several other LI teams that are the same talent wise. Nothing special, check their summer record

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fab. Frosh this weekend. Anyone going?

206 2020 players will be there

Could be wrong, but I'm thinking my money will be better spent next year to attend the afternoon session at this same showcase. "Super Sophs" which is just after Fab Froshs. That way he is more Top of mind when recruiting season finally opens up for these guys.

There was enough exposure at the summer tournaments we were at (albeit much less than past years' freshman!), but I think it's time to take the first weekend off since Mid June.

Enjoy your weekend off and letting everyone know you will not be going

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

I think you've been drinking a bit too much. Incoherent.

So much work for something that reads like a fourth grade project, at best!

91
Terps
fl$
Leg a sea
Igloo
Express B
True Blue
fl$ B
Outlaws

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

Moran is 100 yrs old and consistently underperforms with the best talent on LI. Holding on for dear lifeat Chammy tto preserve the express business model
Legharts own players have no respect for him
Weiszerack is like Mr Magoo, Fat and stupid is no way to go through life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91
Terps
fl$
Leg a sea
Igloo
Express B
True Blue
fl$ B
Outlaws

True Blue beat Express B easily at NYLA....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91
Terps
fl$
Leg a sea
Igloo
Express B
True Blue
fl$ B
Outlaws

True Blue beat Express B easily at NYLA....

Don't go around trying to place a team from an 'elite' program like Express below a team from a "B" program like True Blue - that doesn't sit well with the self-anointed lax nobility. "You can't change your stars John Thatcher!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

Moran is 100 yrs old and consistently underperforms with the best talent on LI. Holding on for dear lifeat Chammy tto preserve the express business model
Legharts own players have no respect for him
Weiszerack is like Mr Magoo, Fat and stupid is no way to go through life.

Haha, all true! Or you could play for JS the [lacrosse] version of LaVar Ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

Moran is 100 yrs old and consistently underperforms with the best talent on LI. Holding on for dear lifeat Chammy tto preserve the express business model
Legharts own players have no respect for him
Weiszerack is like Mr Magoo, Fat and stupid is no way to go through life.

It is painfully obvious that Leghart is in it for the double pay check by coaching the B and the C team. The B team regressed significantly this year. So the players got belittled by their coach even more. Then they add the team that they had old man Jack coach, and they were treated better than Leghart's teams.
Terps were a .500 team this year.
They certainly don't belong on the same level as 91A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

Moran is 100 yrs old and consistently underperforms with the best talent on LI. Holding on for dear lifeat Chammy tto preserve the express business model
Legharts own players have no respect for him
Weiszerack is like Mr Magoo, Fat and stupid is no way to go through life.

It is painfully obvious that Leghart is in it for the double pay check by coaching the B and the C team. The B team regressed significantly this year. So the players got belittled by their coach even more. Then they add the team that they had old man Jack coach, and they were treated better than Leghart's teams.
Terps were a .500 team this year.
They certainly don't belong on the same level as 91A.

Terps had a lot of high quality wins but some bad losses, nobody belongs with 91a, they are the best by a wide margin, but they have a very short bench and don't play even time. There's 91a and everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Facts
A-Teams Terps,Crush ZERO turnover
B-Teams, fl$-Winkoff not sure credentials
Igloo-Calabria 10+ High school experience
True Blue-Engelke played in the 80's
91-Capri-middle school coach
LIE-Moran/Wizerak/Leghart 70 years HS coaching experience
All beat each other on any given day. So daddy's where you going?? To another B team?
What are you paying for?
Little Tommy has to pass catch pick up ground balls
I'm a catholic school parent so easy choice but to those whiners complainers, club hoppers GO with the experience
LIE for what it's worth having
Terps
A best players at tryouts
B rest
C club like

I think you've been drinking a bit too much. Incoherent.

Amen. Give it a rest. It is embarrassing

88+3 B team beat express B by a lot this past weekend at NLF why are they not put in that mix

The final rankings for Long Island should be

CRUSH
Terps and Taz
FL$, Igloo, and True Blue
91B, Express B and Moran, Leg a sea B, outlaws select, fl$ B, maybe even empire

Umm, 91 orange lost to express Moran at nlf

Express Moran beat 91 orange at nlf

Crush no question
Terps beat FCA played top teams
fl$ improving quality summer
Taz invisible all summer. A few close games NO big wins

Wonder if there is any truth to this.

Some have said that 2019 was a weak year, that many of the 2020's that should have been 2019 made the right move. Now I am hearing many 2019's may do a prep year and flood 2020 next year. Affecting fall and summer. Thus creating a chain reaction.

Moran beat 91 orange by 1 in OT but 91 orange beat express leg hart the better team 10-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder if there is any truth to this.

Some have said that 2019 was a weak year, that many of the 2020's that should have been 2019 made the right move. Now I am hearing many 2019's may do a prep year and flood 2020 next year. Affecting fall and summer. Thus creating a chain reaction.

There just aren't enough kids not ALREADY in private school for this to be something large enough to impact the grade? Your suggestion would be that a ton of 2019 public school kids are all of the sudden, on a shortterm (misguided!) whim, are going to flock to privates? How are they getting in? What schools have the space?? School starts in about a month, with fall sports starting in about two weeks! Not gonna happen in any big way. Clue: when you hear something, think through the numbers, the logic, and the logistics, and ask yourself, "Is this possible?". SMH