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It seems appropriate to break down the discussion by age/graduation year like the LI forum since many discussions get really confusing.

Hawks will be best 2022 team this year--book it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks will be best 2022 team this year--book it.

Cannons/Hawks combine teams???

Hawks were 3-5 last year in NPYLL

Crabs are early favorites....

Hawks 9-0 in the fall.

Philly Fall Brawl 2015
Hawks 14 - Rising Sons 2
Hawks 14 - Mesa Futures Orange 2022 3
Hawks 17 - Orange Crush 7

Hogan's Fall Brawl Sunday 2015
Hawks 13 - Top Caliber 1
Hawks 8 - HardCor U13 (Canada) 7
Hawks 7 - MD Roughriders 2022 5

Playday at Severn
Hawks 9 - FCA MD 5
Hawks 7 - Team 91 MD 5
Hawks 8 - Team 91 NY Smash 7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks 9-0 in the fall.

Philly Fall Brawl 2015
Hawks 14 - Rising Sons 2
Hawks 14 - Mesa Futures Orange 2022 3
Hawks 17 - Orange Crush 7

Hogan's Fall Brawl Sunday 2015
Hawks 13 - Top Caliber 1
Hawks 8 - HardCor U13 (Canada) 7
Hawks 7 - MD Roughriders 2022 5

Playday at Severn
Hawks 9 - FCA MD 5
Hawks 7 - Team 91 MD 5
Hawks 8 - Team 91 NY Smash 7

Please stop. This is embarrassing.

That's so wrong, Hawks 2022 did not play at Severn on the play day... They were at South River.

Vs HHH
Vs Rock
Vs Bethesda

Did a bunch of Cannons players go to the Hawks? Cannons seem decimated compared to last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did a bunch of Cannons players go to the Hawks? Cannons seem decimated compared to last year?

No. Only 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's so wrong, Hawks 2022 did not play at Severn on the play day... They were at South River.

Vs HHH
Vs Rock
Vs Bethesda

Yes. The above is talking about payday in the fall, as it states. Hawks were at Severn in the fall.

Play date was at Severn in the fall

Cannons have lost 4 players from last years team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cannons have lost 4 players from last years team.

Does that include the overage players they got caught with last spring? Just wondering if they lost 4 from the team that was so good all spring or from the team that was mediocre all summer after losing the older kids.

I assume those four players were some of their top players? Did they all go too the Hawks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I assume those four players were some of their top players? Did they all go too the Hawks?

No. Only two went to Hawks. Cannons did not have a deep bench.

Medicre all summer? Lost older kids?

Someone is misinformed or a sore loser.

I believe the Cannons beat the best teams in Maryland at least once during the summer. Even after main players got injured.

The 4 players lost were very important considering the team only had 16 players.

2 went to the Hawks, 1 to Madlax, the other is playing soccer.

The kids that left were the best on the team. Lots of unrest over there, .500 team at best.

how are the diamondbacks going to be now that they merged with api?

The Best at what?

We shall see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Medicre all summer? Lost older kids?

Someone is misinformed or a sore loser.

I believe the Cannons beat the best teams in Maryland at least once during the summer. Even after main players got injured.

The 4 players lost were very important considering the team only had 16 players.

Funny that Cannons did not lose a game then until the Spring Playoffs when a certain coach tipped off the league.

Who are these top teams that Cannons beat last Summer?

The Cannons went undefeated last spring. What tip? Spill the info? For the most part the main part of the cannons have been together for along time.

Summer wins over -

Arden
Hawks
Madlax
Breakers
Crabs

If the Cannons had a mediocre summer what did these teams have?

The Cannons lost 5 games last summer. They went 1-3 against the Diamondbacks and 0-2 against Igloo. Both of the Igloo games went into overtime.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Cannons went undefeated last spring. What tip? Spill the info? For the most part the main part of the cannons have been together for along time.

Summer wins over -

Arden
Hawks
Madlax
Breakers
Crabs

If the Cannons had a mediocre summer what did these teams have?

They did not play all those teams in the summer.

What did the coach tip off to the rest of the league about the Cannons?

You have no clue

Went 1-3 against Arden - beat them for Championship in OC, other games were tight
1-0 against Hawks
1-0 against crabs
1-0 against Breaker
0-1 against Igloo in OT in the mud bowl

Also lost to Igloo

Cannons 1-2 this spring already. Lost to club blue and madlax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Went 1-3 against Arden - beat them for Championship in OC, other games were tight
1-0 against Hawks
1-0 against crabs
1-0 against Breaker
0-1 against Igloo in OT in the mud bowl

Who cares? It was last year! Season has not started yet! Sheesh!!!!

Last I checked Igloo is from Long Island.

Arden will be the team to beat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Arden will be the team to beat

arden's 2022 glory days are in the past, they will be lucky to finish .500 this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Arden will be the team to beat

Nope Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Arden will be the team to beat

Nope Hawks

Nope Diamondbacks

Madlax will be very strong

Yeah, we won't be as good this year at the Cannons but no one is upset at the 4 families we "lost" Wackos

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax will be very strong

Sure they will. There are five divisions for 2020: 2020 Elite, 2020AA group 1, 2020AA group 2, 2020A and 2020B.
Guess where Madlax is playing, 2020A, second from the bottom. Absolutely no criticism of teams playing in the lower divisions, coaches need to place their teams where their talent dictates, but for the past 3 months Madlax fans have been shouting that they will beat every 2020 team in the HOCO 2020 division.
Looks like all the luster, if there ever was any, for Madlax has disappeared.

How many games did the Hawks lose last year in the NPYLL?

Do you really think 2 decent players from the Cannons will make that much deference?

If Madlax 2022 is the top team then the Cannons will be just fine.

Don't sleep on the Crabs. Almost time for the reclassified kids to join the team.

HoCo 2022 AA Preseason Prediction. Thoughts?

1) Hawks
2) Diamondbacks
3) Bethesda
4) Crabs
5) Team 91
6) Cannons
7) FCA
8) Madlax
9) Club Blue
10) Roughriders

Diamondbacks
Crabs
Cannons
Madlax
Hawks
Bethesda
Team 91
FCA
Club Blue
Rough riders

Did the Hawks add some more players other than the 2 players or get new coaches?

They lost 5 games last year in the spring. Trying to process how they will suddenly be the best team in the HOCO League

Club Blue and the Roughriders should be in the A division. We could play every team other AA team in that alignment. As it stands, whoever plays them will get the benefit of easy Ws. No disrespect intended, they're just not AA teams.

Hawks
Crabs
Bethesda
Team 91
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Madlax
FCA
Club Blue
Rough riders

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club Blue and the Roughriders should be in the A division. We could play every team other AA team in that alignment. As it stands, whoever plays them will get the benefit of easy Ws. No disrespect intended, they're just not AA teams.

Both teams much improved.

Cannons will be the bottom feeders

Is Team 91 basically the Breakers team that finished second last year?

I heard the Cannons took out the starting goalie at half against Club Blue? Score was 3-3 at half? And one of their top defenseman got sick and didn't play in the Club Blue and Next Level game?

Was anyone on here there that day that can confirm?

Just checking but didn't the Hawks lose to the Cannons (2x), Breakers, Madlax and the Crabs last spring? These 2 new kids from the cannons must be big difference makers. Do they play defense or offense?

Why would they take the starting goalie out against Club Blue?

Go Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the Hawks add some more players other than the 2 players or get new coaches?

They lost 5 games last year in the spring. Trying to process how they will suddenly be the best team in the HOCO League

The games they lost were almost all lost by one point. It was uncanny, really. And misleading. Their record did not indicate at all how good a team they were. They went on to win Young Guns.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just checking but didn't the Hawks lose to the Cannons (2x), Breakers, Madlax and the Crabs last spring? These 2 new kids from the cannons must be big difference makers. Do they play defense or offense?

Hawks 2022 record last year was not good, but here is how it played out - there was only one game they lost that couldn't have gone either way.
Hawks over Club Blue 11-3
Hawks over Bethesday 10-4
Cannons over Hawks 8-2
Hawks over Next Level 13-2
Breakers over Hawks 6-4
Madlax over Hawks 8-7 (OT)
Crabs over Hawks 6-5
Cannons over Hawks 8-7

Hawks went on to win Young Guns, beating Diamondbacks 6-4.

As you can see, their record did not show how good they were. Look at the scores.

How did the Hawks do in the other summer tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just checking but didn't the Hawks lose to the Cannons (2x), Breakers, Madlax and the Crabs last spring? These 2 new kids from the cannons must be big difference makers. Do they play defense or offense?

Hawks 2022 record last year was not good, but here is how it played out - there was only one game they lost that couldn't have gone either way.
Hawks over Club Blue 11-3
Hawks over Bethesday 10-4
Cannons over Hawks 8-2
Hawks over Next Level 13-2
Breakers over Hawks 6-4
Madlax over Hawks 8-7 (OT)
Crabs over Hawks 6-5
Cannons over Hawks 8-7

Hawks went on to win Young Guns, beating Diamondbacks 6-4.

As you can see, their record did not show how good they were. Look at the scores.

Do you think the 2 players will make that big of a difference? Looks pretty even except for the Cannons game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just checking but didn't the Hawks lose to the Cannons (2x), Breakers, Madlax and the Crabs last spring? These 2 new kids from the cannons must be big difference makers. Do they play defense or offense?

Hawks 2022 record last year was not good, but here is how it played out - there was only one game they lost that couldn't have gone either way.
Hawks over Club Blue 11-3
Hawks over Bethesday 10-4
Cannons over Hawks 8-2
Hawks over Next Level 13-2
Breakers over Hawks 6-4
Madlax over Hawks 8-7 (OT)
Crabs over Hawks 6-5
Cannons over Hawks 8-7

Hawks went on to win Young Guns, beating Diamondbacks 6-4.

As you can see, their record did not show how good they were. Look at the scores.

Do you think the 2 players will make that big of a difference? Looks pretty even except for the Cannons game.

One of the Cannons games. It was an off day. Kids have them. This team plays as a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the Hawks do in the other summer tournaments?

Can't remember everything, but do remember it was crazy how they kept losing by one -- did beat Crabs at Beachlax. Lost to Diamondbacks by one! Played up in 2021 slot at Hershey. Summer Exposure lost by one to both Breakers and Cannons. No joke.

I am a Hawk parent (2023) but am friendly with some 2022 parents and maybe can shed light on this?

The thought is that they won Young Guns and when they did lose to top teams...a lot of 1-2 goal games. They added 2 of the better Cannons players which not only strengthened Hawks but worsened a top competitor. They also added anothee strong attackman. They kept a really good defense together and added another really good goalie so they have 2 AA starting caliber goalies.

I have no idea what this means overall because I don't know 2022 well enough but THEY feel they are much better and my 2 eyes see it too. Now like I said, I don't know if this team is first or last but they are bettee

Hawks added players as did every other team. Who is coaching them still daddy ball issues??? Don't sleep on 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks added players as did every other team. Who is coaching them still daddy ball issues??? Don't sleep on 91.

I was thinking the same thing. Losing close games usually comes down to coaching decisions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the Hawks do in the other summer tournaments?

Can't remember everything, but do remember it was crazy how they kept losing by one -- did beat Crabs at Beachlax. Lost to Diamondbacks by one! Played up in 2021 slot at Hershey. Summer Exposure lost by one to both Breakers and Cannons. No joke.

Even though the game at Summer Exposure against the Cannons was a one goal game the Cannons controlled the game throughout. Same with the playoff game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the Hawks do in the other summer tournaments?

Can't remember everything, but do remember it was crazy how they kept losing by one -- did beat Crabs at Beachlax. Lost to Diamondbacks by one! Played up in 2021 slot at Hershey. Summer Exposure lost by one to both Breakers and Cannons. No joke.

Even though the game at Summer Exposure against the Cannons was a one goal game the Cannons controlled the game throughout. Same with the playoff game.

Ok. This is getting ridiculous. New year. New teams. See everyone in a week or so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks added players as did every other team. Who is coaching them still daddy ball issues??? Don't sleep on 91.

I was thinking the same thing. Losing close games usually comes down to coaching decisions.

Or the fact that the kids were 11 and make mistakes. Lol. Move on! I

Not a Hawk 2022 parent but these old eyes have seen a quality coaching staff leading them.

Good luck to all teams this year and praying for a healthy season.

Enjoy the boys/games. They will be gone to college before you know it!!

HOCO schedule out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HOCO schedule out.

Club Blue dropped out of AA, 3D and Storm came in.

Here's who's in it:
3D
API Diamondbacks
Bethesda
Cannons
Crabs
FCA
Hawks
Madlax
Rough Riders
Storm
Team 91

Games start 4/10

MPLL (Kooper's League) schedule is out. These are the teams:

API Diamondbacks
Coppermine
FCA
Hawks
Kooper's
Laxworld
Rock
RoughRiders
Team 91
Wolfpack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HOCO schedule out.

Club Blue dropped out of AA, 3D and Storm came in.

Here's who's in it:
3D
API Diamondbacks
Bethesda
Cannons
Crabs
FCA
Hawks
Madlax
Rough Riders
Storm
Team 91

Games start 4/10

Wish they had limited number of teams more. Not all teams get to play each other. There are some teams in this breakers that can't compete. All true AA teams should get to play each other. That's the point.

I hear FCA has a ton of playbacks on their squad...probably still will not help them

I saw Madlax beat Crabs at the Madlax Madness play day yesterday. What was the score?

What other teams played?

Any surprises?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw Madlax beat Crabs at the Madlax Madness play day yesterday. What was the score?

What other teams played?

Any surprises?

Madlax went 3-0 beating the crabs 8-4,Next Level 7-3 and Lax Fac. 9-2. So it looks like Madlax Cap. 2022 is Elite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MPLL (Kooper's League) schedule is out. These are the teams:

API Diamondbacks
Coppermine
FCA
Hawks
Kooper's
Laxworld
Rock
RoughRiders
Team 91
Wolfpack

Any scores from these games yet?

Madlax has a good team. They have quality depth so they will be tough to beat.

Yes, Madlax looks strong. Crabs have talent but looked disorganized offensively.

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

I love how you are trying to call out some 2022 kids here on this site. Next time put your name on here.

Actually not calling out the KIDS at all. They are great boys who enjoy each other. It is OTHERS who try to put space between the kids. Coaches took one of the chosen ones out of one of his roles because he was getting consistently beat. Had kids who had never done a certain role play it to get the spotlight off a kid who was getting consistently beat. That kid still gave us our best chance but I guess protecting his rep was most important to the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually not calling out the KIDS at all. They are great boys who enjoy each other. It is OTHERS who try to put space between the kids. Coaches took one of the chosen ones out of one of his roles because he was getting consistently beat. Had kids who had never done a certain role play it to get the spotlight off a kid who was getting consistently beat. That kid still gave us our best chance but I guess protecting his rep was most important to the coaches.

Spotlight off of a Six grader??? Lacrosse is really getting out of hand!

Can't argue that. Kids just want to play. They don't get caught up in it . I wasn't upset that our appointed star was getting beat. It happens. How is he supposed to learn? It's ok to lose if you compete. This kid would have competed o matter how many times he got beat....but no, let's remove him so we can keep up the company line that he is our star

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually not calling out the KIDS at all. They are great boys who enjoy each other. It is OTHERS who try to put space between the kids. Coaches took one of the chosen ones out of one of his roles because he was getting consistently beat. Had kids who had never done a certain role play it to get the spotlight off a kid who was getting consistently beat. That kid still gave us our best chance but I guess protecting his rep was most important to the coaches.

Are you really breaking down the game of a 6th grader? What kind of freak are you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

I don't understand what this means? Whose appointed stars didn't play what way? Confused.

This has been some of the most bizzare criticisms I have read on this site that is full of outlandish commentary! Calling out 6th graders on your son's team? That should work out well for your son as he navigates the club scene for the next five years! Thanks for the help dad!

Did the Crabs lose to Next Level? What was the score?

No Crabs lost to Madlax

Crabs beat NL by 4 or so...

Crabs 5 NL 2
Crabs 4 Madlax 8
NL 4 Madlax 7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

Sounds like a ton of issues going down on the FCA 2022 team. Glad my son does not play their...Soup to nuts sounds like coaches and parents need to get a grip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

I don't understand what this means? Whose appointed stars didn't play what way? Confused.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

I don't understand what this means? Whose appointed stars didn't play what way? Confused.

Don't be fooled... This is not a statement from any parent or coach in FCA. I am not apart of the team but no one from that organization would say anything like this Probably the parent of a kid that was cut from FCA that is looking to degrade folks... That the problem with anonymous posts... Put an email address on a post if you feel so strongly about it...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

I don't understand what this means? Whose appointed stars didn't play what way? Confused.

Don't be fooled... This is not a statement from any parent or coach in FCA. I am not apart of the team but no one from that organization would say anything like this Probably the parent of a kid that was cut from FCA that is looking to degrade folks... That the problem with anonymous posts... Put an email address on a post if you feel so strongly about it...

Ok, what is your email address?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

I don't understand what this means? Whose appointed stars didn't play what way? Confused.

Don't be fooled... This is not a statement from any parent or coach in FCA. I am not apart of the team but no one from that organization would say anything like this Probably the parent of a kid that was cut from FCA that is looking to degrade folks... That the problem with anonymous posts... Put an email address on a post if you feel so strongly about it...

There are 6th graders that were cut by FCA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think most of the Saturday games were canceled. I heard 91 beat Api Diamondbacks. My son's FCA team made up the game with Hawks sunday and lost 10 or 11 to 2.

Disaster. Our appointed stars sure didn't play that way yesterday.

I don't understand what this means? Whose appointed stars didn't play what way? Confused.

Don't be fooled... This is not a statement from any parent or coach in FCA. I am not apart of the team but no one from that organization would say anything like this Probably the parent of a kid that was cut from FCA that is looking to degrade folks... That the problem with anonymous posts... Put an email address on a post if you feel so strongly about it...

Ok, what is your email address?

[lacrosse]@aol.com

Some good games in the 1st week of HoCo:
Diamondbacks 6, Storm 5
FCA 6, Cannons 5
Bethesda 12, Rough Riders 9
Hawks 10, Madlax 8

MPLL Highlights:
Team 91MD 7, Diamondbacks 5
Hawks 11, FCA 2
Team 91MD 6, RoughRiders 5
Diamondbacks 12, FCA 6

3D lost to Crabs 4-8 in HOCO; 3D did not play great but crabs look strong.

Agreed--crabs look strong but early in season

I think it is too early to project anything but I am surprised to see Madlax lose first game out of the gate. My sense is that Madlax may be best team, but maybe Hawks are just really good. Did anyone see this game? What about Crabs' game? Anyone see them play?

Hawks are very well balanced with a ton of skill. They are likely the team to beat at 2022. Word is they practice year round, and 3-4x in spring. Would not be surprised if they run the table

Diamondbacks, Cannons, Hawks, Madlax, Crabs, Breakers 91 all traded wins last year and will likely do the same this year.

All good teams. Let's keep it fun and safe for the kids. Maybe 2022 parents can be known as the ones who aren't crazy. Cheer for each other, get to know each other. We'll be seeing a lot of each other. Let's make it a positive experience for the kids. Most important, let's make sure the leagues are getting us refs who are going to call these high hits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks, Cannons, Hawks, Madlax, Crabs, Breakers 91 all traded wins last year and will likely do the same this year.

What's with the asterisks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks, Cannons, Hawks, Madlax, Crabs, Breakers 91 all traded wins last year and will likely do the same this year.

What's with the asterisks?

Please keep in mind that when you see a club's name come up as asterisks it means that BOTC has made a determination based on our direct knowledge and experience that the club is not a club we want to recommend to parents and players. We demand a very high level of business practices or we deny you any visibility. Buyer beware.

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks, Cannons, Hawks, Madlax, Crabs, Breakers 91 all traded wins last year and will likely do the same this year.

What's with the asterisks?

Please keep in mind that when you see a club's name come up as asterisks it means that BOTC has made a determination based on our direct knowledge and experience that the club is not a club we want to recommend to parents and players. We demand a very high level of business practices or we deny you any visibility. Buyer beware.

Could you give us a hint to the club you are talking about????

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks, Cannons, Hawks, Madlax, Crabs, Breakers 91 all traded wins last year and will likely do the same this year.

What's with the asterisks?

Please keep in mind that when you see a club's name come up as asterisks it means that BOTC has made a determination based on our direct knowledge and experience that the club is not a club we want to recommend to parents and players. We demand a very high level of business practices or we deny you any visibility. Buyer beware.

What would a club have to have done to lose your recommendation? Thank you for providing this information.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks, Cannons, Hawks, Madlax, Crabs, Breakers 91 all traded wins last year and will likely do the same this year.

What's with the asterisks?

Please keep in mind that when you see a club's name come up as asterisks it means that BOTC has made a determination based on our direct knowledge and experience that the club is not a club we want to recommend to parents and players. We demand a very high level of business practices or we deny you any visibility. Buyer beware.

Could you give us a hint to the club you are talking about????

I could give you 91 hints ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw Madlax beat Crabs at the Madlax Madness play day yesterday. What was the score?

What other teams played?

Any surprises?

Madlax went 3-0 beating the crabs 8-4,Next Level 7-3 and Lax Fac. 9-2. So it looks like Madlax Cap. 2022 is Elite.

Madlax is now 0-2 in HOCO league play

Week 2 Scores:

HoCo
RoughRiders 9, Cannons 2
Crabs 9, Bethesda 7
Diamondbacks 13, Madlax 7
Hawks 15, 3D 3
Team NineOne MD 11, Storm 4

MPLL
Hawks 8, Team NineOne MD 2
Diamondbacks 5, RoughRiders 4

Hawks look like team to beat, with Diamondbacks and Crabs looking strong too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks look like team to beat, with Diamondbacks and Crabs looking strong too.

Koopers undefeated in Mpll also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks look like team to beat, with Diamondbacks and Crabs looking strong too.

Koopers undefeated in Mpll also.

Yeah. Really beat murderer's row there in Wolfpack, Rock and Lax World. And Coppermine next week? If I didn't know better, I'd think Koopers runs the MPLL.....Funny they have managed to not play Hawks, Ninety-One or Diamondbacks.

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Someone not happy about a man that is trying to make things safer in youth lacrosse? At least he is willing to do something about it and come out publicly to say it is not okay the way the little guys are being taught the game or allowed to play. Not a ninety one 2022 parent but awfully glad someone has guts enough to try to protect kids and teach them when they are young. His team losing is a different topic than his efforts to make lacrosse safer - stop stirring the pot. Try to stay on one topic or another.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Stop it. Don't talk about someone's kid on here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Someone not happy about a man that is trying to make things safer in youth lacrosse? At least he is willing to do something about it and come out publicly to say it is not okay the way the little guys are being taught the game or allowed to play. Not a ninety one 2022 parent but awfully glad someone has guts enough to try to protect kids and teach them when they are young. His team losing is a different topic than his efforts to make lacrosse safer - stop stirring the pot. Try to stay on one topic or another.

What a load of crap. If MM was so concerned about the safety of his player, his own son in fact, why did he put him back in the game after what he called a vicious shot to the head? Why? Because they were losing and his son ended up scoring the game winning goal in the final seconds.

But don't come on here saying that thank goodness that MM is willing to stand up for player safety. He flipped out because it was his son. But he did NOTHING to protect his son from further injury by putting him back in the game. MM is all about winning at any cost, so his hissy fit is laughable actually.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw Madlax beat Crabs at the Madlax Madness play day yesterday. What was the score?

What other teams played?

Any surprises?

Madlax went 3-0 beating the crabs 8-4,Next Level 7-3 and Lax Fac. 9-2. So it looks like Madlax Cap. 2022 is Elite.

Madlax is now 0-2 in HOCO league play

I thought Madlax 2022 was the best in the area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw Madlax beat Crabs at the Madlax Madness play day yesterday. What was the score?

What other teams played?

Any surprises?

Madlax went 3-0 beating the crabs 8-4,Next Level 7-3 and Lax Fac. 9-2. So it looks like Madlax Cap. 2022 is Elite.

Madlax is now 0-2 in HOCO league play

I thought Madlax 2022 was the best in the area.

Madlax 2022 is a very good team. There is no shame in losing to Hawks and Diamondbacks in close games. I would say Hawks is the best team at this point, but I think that most of the teams are pretty even at this age in HOCO. Other than 3D and Storm, any team can beat any other team on any given day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Someone not happy about a man that is trying to make things safer in youth lacrosse? At least he is willing to do something about it and come out publicly to say it is not okay the way the little guys are being taught the game or allowed to play. Not a ninety one 2022 parent but awfully glad someone has guts enough to try to protect kids and teach them when they are young. His team losing is a different topic than his efforts to make lacrosse safer - stop stirring the pot. Try to stay on one topic or another.

What a load of crap. If MM was so concerned about the safety of his player, his own son in fact, why did he put him back in the game after what he called a vicious shot to the head? Why? Because they were losing and his son ended up scoring the game winning goal in the final seconds.

But don't come on here saying that thank goodness that MM is willing to stand up for player safety. He flipped out because it was his son. But he did NOTHING to protect his son from further injury by putting him back in the game. MM is all about winning at any cost, so his hissy fit is laughable actually.

You are just as bad by using a person's kid to vent your anger online. Regardless of how you feel about the man, the kid is a 12-year-old, and you should not mention him. Shame.

Madlax 2022 is good, but not an elite team. Small players. They get overwhelmed by many of the top clubs in this area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Someone not happy about a man that is trying to make things safer in youth lacrosse? At least he is willing to do something about it and come out publicly to say it is not okay the way the little guys are being taught the game or allowed to play. Not a ninety one 2022 parent but awfully glad someone has guts enough to try to protect kids and teach them when they are young. His team losing is a different topic than his efforts to make lacrosse safer - stop stirring the pot. Try to stay on one topic or another.

What a load of crap. If MM was so concerned about the safety of his player, his own son in fact, why did he put him back in the game after what he called a vicious shot to the head? Why? Because they were losing and his son ended up scoring the game winning goal in the final seconds.

But don't come on here saying that thank goodness that MM is willing to stand up for player safety. He flipped out because it was his son. But he did NOTHING to protect his son from further injury by putting him back in the game. MM is all about winning at any cost, so his hissy fit is laughable actually.

You are just as bad by using a person's kid to vent your anger online. Regardless of how you feel about the man, the kid is a 12-year-old, and you should not mention him. Shame.

perhaps the previous poster shouldn't discuss kid, perhaps MM shouldn't insert his kid into public domain by posting video on twitter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Someone not happy about a man that is trying to make things safer in youth lacrosse? At least he is willing to do something about it and come out publicly to say it is not okay the way the little guys are being taught the game or allowed to play. Not a ninety one 2022 parent but awfully glad someone has guts enough to try to protect kids and teach them when they are young. His team losing is a different topic than his efforts to make lacrosse safer - stop stirring the pot. Try to stay on one topic or another.

What a load of crap. If MM was so concerned about the safety of his player, his own son in fact, why did he put him back in the game after what he called a vicious shot to the head? Why? Because they were losing and his son ended up scoring the game winning goal in the final seconds.

But don't come on here saying that thank goodness that MM is willing to stand up for player safety. He flipped out because it was his son. But he did NOTHING to protect his son from further injury by putting him back in the game. MM is all about winning at any cost, so his hissy fit is laughable actually.

You are just as bad by using a person's kid to vent your anger online. Regardless of how you feel about the man, the kid is a 12-year-old, and you should not mention him. Shame.

Nothing at all was said about the kid other than he got hit. The kid is a great player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 is good, but not an elite team. Small players. They get overwhelmed by many of the top clubs in this area.

They beat Crabs a few weeks ago and only lost to Hawks by 2. Hard to say they are overwhelmed by clubs in the area.

Losing by 6 goals is a close game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw Madlax beat Crabs at the Madlax Madness play day yesterday. What was the score?

What other teams played?

Any surprises?

Madlax went 3-0 beating the crabs 8-4,Next Level 7-3 and Lax Fac. 9-2. So it looks like Madlax Cap. 2022 is Elite.

Madlax is now 0-2 in HOCO league play

I thought Madlax 2022 was the best in the area.

Madlax 2022 is a very good team. There is no shame in losing to Hawks and Diamondbacks in close games. I would say Hawks is the best team at this point, but I think that most of the teams are pretty even at this age in HOCO. Other than 3D and Storm, any team can beat any other team on any given day.

Storm lost to Diamondbacks 6-5. 3D lost to Crabs 8-4. I don't think you can look past any teams in this league.

I'm fairly certain 3D isn't going to win a game in HOCO. The Crabs game wasn't as close as the score indicates and Hawks beat them 15-3. They should be in the A division.

They do have nice loud fans though. So they have that going for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 is good, but not an elite team. Small players. They get overwhelmed by many of the top clubs in this area.

This is a silly statement. Many very good 12 year old players are still small. The very large kids are the exception in sixth grade.

From the perspectice of an opposing team parent from out of state, who watched Madlax play in the Fall and most recently in the Spring, they have a very talented group of players and are well-balanced. The boys played at the highest level in their game against Express on Saturday. Great to see the 2022 players and teams competing with excellence.

Like I said, Hawks better pray that Millon doesn't get them kicked out if they beat them that badly. He ran and told on us and got a rule changed. Probably ran to his mommy with his pacifier too!! What a baby!!

My son played against2022 MadLax...I thought they were very good. We won, but would not be surprised if we lost to them in the future. Some really good teams out there. I doubt one team will dominate the whole spring and summer. Could see the regular season winner lose in 1st round of playoffs and the 5th place team win it all and someone different wins in the summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son played against2022 MadLax...I thought they were very good. We won, but would not be surprised if we lost to them in the future. Some really good teams out there. I doubt one team will dominate the whole spring and summer. Could see the regular season winner lose in 1st round of playoffs and the 5th place team win it all and someone different wins in the summer

Agree. Opposing team. Found them to be very good competition. Fast, talented. Excellent defense. The best my son's team has played so far this year, in fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like I said, Hawks better pray that Millon doesn't get them kicked out if they beat them that badly. He ran and told on us and got a rule changed. Probably ran to his mommy with his pacifier too!! What a baby!!

$100 says this is a troll.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like I said, Hawks better pray that Millon doesn't get them kicked out if they beat them that badly. He ran and told on us and got a rule changed. Probably ran to his mommy with his pacifier too!! What a baby!!

$100 says this is a troll.

Million does rub some people the wrong way..This person must be one of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like I said, Hawks better pray that Millon doesn't get them kicked out if they beat them that badly. He ran and told on us and got a rule changed. Probably ran to his mommy with his pacifier too!! What a baby!!

$100 says this is a troll.

Million does rub some people the wrong way..This person must be one of them.

I'm not sure how Millon doesn't rub everyone the wrong way. Why anyone would let their son play for this guy is beyond me. Never met a more self-centered, egotistical person in my life. The kids are not important to them. If they aren't helping him win they will be cast aside and insulted in many cases. I feel sorry for the kids that are subjected to his antics.

We played against Madlax 2022. Nothing special.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like I said, Hawks better pray that Millon doesn't get them kicked out if they beat them that badly. He ran and told on us and got a rule changed. Probably ran to his mommy with his pacifier too!! What a baby!!

$100 says this is a troll.

Million does rub some people the wrong way..This person must be one of them.

I'm not sure how Millon doesn't rub everyone the wrong way. Why anyone would let their son play for this guy is beyond me. Never met a more self-centered, egotistical person in my life. The kids are not important to them. If they aren't helping him win they will be cast aside and insulted in many cases. I feel sorry for the kids that are subjected to his antics.

That is pretty bad if True?? Obviously your experience with him hasnt gone well!

HOCO predictions for the weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HOCO predictions for the weekend?

Team 91 vs. FCA
Cannons vs. Crabs
Storm vs. Madlax - Capital
Hawks vs. Bethesda Blue
API Diamondbacks vs. 3D
Roughriders (bye)

Team **** over FCA
Crabs over Cannons
Madlax over Storm
Hawks over Bethesda
Diamondbacks over 3D

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team **** over FCA
Crabs over Cannons
Madlax over Storm
Hawks over Bethesda
Diamondbacks over 3D

Agree on all

I would imagine the only close game will be Hawks/Bethesda.

Old habits die hard. My kid is in high school now, so I fully admit it is strange that I'm reading through a youth thread, but just found it interesting which teams were at the top of the food chain these days. When we were playing, the crabs still dominated everyone for the most post. Madlax was a very close second. Hawks weren't close until they started attracting a number of reclass kids. MM, 3d, and API weren't in the picture. Boy has the landscape changed - and that was only about 3 years ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Old habits die hard. My kid is in high school now, so I fully admit it is strange that I'm reading through a youth thread, but just found it interesting which teams were at the top of the food chain these days. When we were playing, the crabs still dominated everyone for the most post. Madlax was a very close second. Hawks weren't close until they started attracting a number of reclass kids. MM, 3d, and API weren't in the picture. Boy has the landscape changed - and that was only about 3 years ago.

Even more impressive when your assumption of holdbacks on the Hawks 2022 is totally incorrect.

I know nothing about the hawks 2022, and made no assumptions, i was referring to the hawks team from a couple years ago, but good to see the parents are just as nuts as they were back then

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know nothing about the hawks 2022, and made no assumptions, i was referring to the hawks team from a couple years ago, but good to see the parents are just as nuts as they were back then

Gotcha. Sorry. Assumed you were talking about 2022 kids on a 2022 forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know nothing about the hawks 2022, and made no assumptions, i was referring to the hawks team from a couple years ago, but good to see the parents are just as nuts as they were back then

Gotcha. Sorry. Assumed you were talking about 2022 kids on a 2022 forum.

No problem. I get it. Reading comprehension isn't your thing. Ah, I miss this banter. Gonna have to bail out now. Good luck with your 2022s.

FCA 6 - Ninety-One 3
Crabs 13 - Cannons 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 6 - Ninety-One 3
Crabs 13 - Cannons 3

Another loss for Millon? I sense a rule change coming?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 6 - Ninety-One 3
Crabs 13 - Cannons 3

Another loss for Millon? I sense a rule change coming?

Well at least he has the guts to call people out on their nonsense and unlike other club directors he actually played the game and cares about the integrity of the sport and thr safety of youth. If leagues and other directors are not going to stand up, then glad he does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 6 - Ninety-One 3
Crabs 13 - Cannons 3

Another loss for Millon? I sense a rule change coming?

Well at least he has the guts to call people out on their nonsense and unlike other club directors he actually played the game and cares about the integrity of the sport and thr safety of youth. If leagues and other directors are not going to stand up, then glad he does. - Mrs. Millon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 6 - Ninety-One 3
Crabs 13 - Cannons 3

Hawks beat bethsada
API beat 3D

Hawks beat API in MPLL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 6 - Ninety-One 3
Crabs 13 - Cannons 3

Another loss for Millon? I sense a rule change coming?

Well at least he has the guts to call people out on their nonsense and unlike other club directors he actually played the game and cares about the integrity of the sport and thr safety of youth. If leagues and other directors are not going to stand up, then glad he does. - Mrs. Millon

LOL!!!! Perfect. Yeah Millon is quite the bastion of integrity. He is a floater

HoCo
Diamondbacks 17, 3D 4
Madlax 11, Storm 4
Hawks 10, Bethesda 2
FCA 6, Team NineOne 3
Crabs 13, Cannons 3

MPLL
Hawks 9, Diamondbacks 3
RoughRiders 13, FCA 7

Wow what happen to 91 this weekend lost to fca anyone see the game?

Hawks and Crabs look like teams to beat.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow what happen to 91 this weekend lost to fca anyone see the game?

They must have been missing kids or got screwed by the refs. They have elite coaches and they are the best team in the country, not just MD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks and Crabs look like teams to beat.....

Crabs have played nobody and only beat 3D by 4 goals. Hawks beat them by 15. Don't put Hawks and crabs in same category.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks and Crabs look like teams to beat.....

Crabs have played nobody and only beat 3D by 4 goals. Hawks beat them by 15. Don't put Hawks and crabs in same category.

Yes, let's make several categories for these 6th graders. We can call them AA, A and B. Then we'll reserve a double-secret category for the Hawks. Does AAA work?

Yeah...By the way my kid is better than yours

Who have the Hawks played?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks and Crabs look like teams to beat.....

Let's hope they meet up in the playoffs because Hoco didn't schedule them to play during the season.

Since when did beating teams by more goals matter? I'm not a Crabs parent but winning is all that matters. An 8-7 game acquires you the same amount of wins that a 11-3 game does...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since when did beating teams by more goals matter? I'm not a Crabs parent but winning is all that matters. An 8-7 game acquires you the same amount of wins that a 11-3 game does...

Fca and Diamondbacks also undefeated in Hoco. Koopers undefeated also in mpll.

Crabs and Hawks have played 4 times. Hawks is 2-1-1. Sounds like the same category to me.

What do you suppose is going on with the Cannons?

What do y'all suppose is going on with Cannons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks and Crabs look like teams to beat.....

Crabs have played nobody and only beat 3D by 4 goals. Hawks beat them by 15. Don't put Hawks and crabs in same category.

STOP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do y'all suppose is going on with Cannons

Well, it all started last spring when they got caught using older kids by Breakers. Add to that that 4 of their best players are now on Hawks and you have your answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since when did beating teams by more goals matter? I'm not a Crabs parent but winning is all that matters. An 8-7 game acquires you the same amount of wins that a 11-3 game does...

Fca and Diamondbacks also undefeated in Hoco. Koopers undefeated also in mpll.

Ok Koopers' dad. You keep posting this. Enjoy your wins over Coppermine, Wolfpack, Rock and Lax World. Come back after your next two games vs Diamondbacks and Roughriders. You guys aren't even in the AA division in HOCO for god's sake. Stop coming on here and pounding your chest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do y'all suppose is going on with Cannons

Well, it all started last spring when they got caught using older kids by Breakers. Add to that that 4 of their best players are now on Hawks and you have your answer.

Wow, Millon was acting like a 3 year old tattle tale last year too???

How do you know they had illegal players, this is the second time I've seen this on this board. I assume this is the second time by the same person

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since when did beating teams by more goals matter? I'm not a Crabs parent but winning is all that matters. An 8-7 game acquires you the same amount of wins that a 11-3 game does...

Fca and Diamondbacks also undefeated in Hoco. Koopers undefeated also in mpll.

Ok Koopers' dad. You keep posting this. Enjoy your wins over Coppermine, Wolfpack, Rock and Lax World. Come back after your next two games vs Diamondbacks and Roughriders. You guys aren't even in the AA division in HOCO for god's sake. Stop coming on here and pounding your chest.

Koopers is undefeated in Hoco A division also

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since when did beating teams by more goals matter? I'm not a Crabs parent but winning is all that matters. An 8-7 game acquires you the same amount of wins that a 11-3 game does...

Fca and Diamondbacks also undefeated in Hoco. Koopers undefeated also in mpll.

Ok Koopers' dad. You keep posting this. Enjoy your wins over Coppermine, Wolfpack, Rock and Lax World. Come back after your next two games vs Diamondbacks and Roughriders. You guys aren't even in the AA division in HOCO for god's sake. Stop coming on here and pounding your chest.

Koopers is undefeated in Hoco A division also

Good for you koopers dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you know they had illegal players, this is the second time I've seen this on this board. I assume this is the second time by the same person

Funny. Are you denying they had illegal players? I didn't think so. I know because I know. There is a reason they were the dominant 2022 team until the Breakers game in NPYLL last year.

Your an idiot

I'll deny it.

Name the players know it all.

I've known the players and their families for many years.

The cannons lost 4 players from a roster of 16.

Do the math. Players were added to replace them but they lack the experience so they are in a learning process. A players playing in a AA division.

Funny

4 players left the rest of the players remain

So your saying the 4 players that left are illegal players. 2 are playing with the Hawks and 1 is at Madlax. The other is playing soccer.

I guess that's why the Hawks are finally having success. Using illegal players?

I would love to see the Crabs and Hawks roster with birth dates.

A bunch of reclassified players. HOCO should have ID system and go all age based.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would love to see the Crabs and Hawks roster with birth dates.

A bunch of reclassified players. HOCO should have ID system and go all age based.

Sour grapes. There are not reclassed players in 6th grade. Come on! Just because a team has success does not mean that cheating is involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would love to see the Crabs and Hawks roster with birth dates.

A bunch of reclassified players. HOCO should have ID system and go all age based.

Before you come on here and spread rumors about kids and families you don't know, why don't you do some research? It's irresponsible to ruin a team, coaches, or player's reputation by claiming they are cheating just because they are winning or have players that are big. You don't know what you're talking about. You are stirring the pot, speaking out of anger/jealousy/or fear, and it's just not right. Not everyone cheats to get ahead. Some people just work really hard.

Message for Hawks and Crabs--haters gonna hate.....so just keep your heads down and continue to work hard, be good sports and respect the game.

Message for crabs you have beat nobody.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Message for crabs you have beat nobody.

<Message for you Nobody has beaten the Crabs. In your face

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Message for crabs you have beat nobody.

So I'm sure the following clubs are happy to hear that they are nobodies:

Hawks
Igloo
Bethesda
Cannons
FCA
Roughriders
Philadelphia Freedom

They played Breakers once last year and lost 3-2
They played Diamondbacks once last year and lost by 4

Other than that, there is no team that Crabs has played and not beaten.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Message for crabs you have beat nobody.

So I'm sure the following clubs are happy to hear that they are nobodies:

Hawks
Igloo
Bethesda
Cannons
FCA
Roughriders
Philadelphia Freedom

They played Breakers once last year and lost 3-2
They played Diamondbacks once last year and lost by 4

Other than that, there is no team that Crabs has played and not beaten.

I would hope Crabs beat everybody if those birthdates in another thread are accurate. You have half of a 2021 team. I feel confident if half my son's team moved down and played on our club's 2023 Team they would lose a game either

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

OMG yes - because kids born in September or October are SO MUCH younger than kids born in say July or August !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

True. Crabs has more of these kids than any other program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

Don't bring logic to this conversation. Those parents knew little Tommy was going to be good at lacrosse when he got to middle school so they signed up to pay an extra $25,000 for him to go to prefirst because they knew he wouldn't be able to compete with kids his own age. HOLDBACK HOLDBACK HOLDBACK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

I think you are actually making the point for the anti-crabbers here. Yes, you are right, it does make a difference. A boy born in Aug 2003 has a better chance playing in 2022 vs December 2003/January 2004 kids then he does playing against 2021 kids.

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Message for crabs you have beat nobody.

So I'm sure the following clubs are happy to hear that they are nobodies:

Hawks
Igloo
Bethesda
Cannons
FCA
Roughriders
Philadelphia Freedom

They played Breakers once last year and lost 3-2
They played Diamondbacks once last year and lost by 4

Other than that, there is no team that Crabs has played and not beaten.

I would hope Crabs beat everybody if those birthdates in another thread are accurate. You have half of a 2021 team. I feel confident if half my son's team moved down and played on our club's 2023 Team they would lose a game either

Half? 8 kids may be half a team, but it is 80% of the starters. There are lots of Crabs kids that never see the field also. Eight 7th graders posing as 6th graders is a huge advantage.

I'd be surprised if Diamondbacks, Hawks, or Cannons (county clubs) could compete with those DC and Baltimore teams with that many overage kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

My son is 1/2004 and He too is at a disadvantage!
Crazy but yes Sept 04 is youngest on the roster... he could go 2023

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

Don't bring logic to this conversation. Those parents knew little Tommy was going to be good at lacrosse when he got to middle school so they signed up to pay an extra $25,000 for him to go to prefirst because they knew he wouldn't be able to compete with kids his own age. HOLDBACK HOLDBACK HOLDBACK

Logic has nothing to do with it. If you think that there are not MANY MANY children held back in kindergartner for the sole purpose to get an advantage, you are either clueless or have no child in a MIAA school... The advantage could be sports for some and academics for others...and of course some could use the extra time before going to First grade...Saying all that..Youth sports is for age and letting a select group get an advantage due to them holding their child back goes against all values in youth sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

Don't bring logic to this conversation. Those parents knew little Tommy was going to be good at lacrosse when he got to middle school so they signed up to pay an extra $25,000 for him to go to prefirst because they knew he wouldn't be able to compete with kids his own age. HOLDBACK HOLDBACK HOLDBACK

I'm just saying it's a matter of semantics. I don't care if they go age-based. Just don't call a kid a holdback if he held off on kindegarten or did pre-first. It's not right to lump those kids in with kids who repeat eight grade at another school and already playing club lacrosse. Get real.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

Don't bring logic to this conversation. Those parents knew little Tommy was going to be good at lacrosse when he got to middle school so they signed up to pay an extra $25,000 for him to go to prefirst because they knew he wouldn't be able to compete with kids his own age. HOLDBACK HOLDBACK HOLDBACK

I'm just saying it's a matter of semantics. I don't care if they go age-based. Just don't call a kid a holdback if he held off on kindegarten or did pre-first. It's not right to lump those kids in with kids who repeat eight grade at another school and already playing club lacrosse. Get real.

You might want to get real..The kid re-classed in Eight grade has only two years to get an advantage that others dont get...And he had to play on age until then poor kid

... The prefirst ( yes they were held-back) kid in kindergarten gets the advantage the majority of all other children dont get... from his third grade team until High School...Since it is ok for these children to play down in age according to you...Why not let any child play down that wants too??? Forget Birthdays. Let the parents decide ... Why just give children held back an advantage over all others???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

Don't bring logic to this conversation. Those parents knew little Tommy was going to be good at lacrosse when he got to middle school so they signed up to pay an extra $25,000 for him to go to prefirst because they knew he wouldn't be able to compete with kids his own age. HOLDBACK HOLDBACK HOLDBACK

Logic has nothing to do with it. If you think that there are not MANY MANY children held back in kindergartner for the sole purpose to get an advantage, you are either clueless or have no child in a MIAA school... The advantage could be sports for some and academics for others...and of course some could use the extra time before going to First grade...Saying all that..Youth sports is for age and letting a select group get an advantage due to them holding their child back goes against all values in youth sports.

My boys are at an MIAA school. And there are lots of prefirst kids. But you know what? Most of them don't even play sports. All of them were late spring summer birthdays that the school recommended prefirst to based on cognitive skills and preparedness for first grade.

Please tell me. When did youth sports get to the point where a 12 year old couldn't play with and against 13 year olds? My high school age son did. And my middle school son played in 2 year groupings in rec when he was younger. What is the concern? The kids aren't being recruited in 6th and 7th grade, so who cares if there are a few kids that might be a few months older than the rest?

We have some informed opinions, if not always civil, on this board. Who has surprised for better or worse? Who would you buy, sell or hold in this HoCo group?

API Diamondbacks
Crabs
Hawks
FCA - Blue
Team 9ty1
Rough Riders
Bethesda Blue
Madlax - Capital
3D Select
Cannons
Storm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

You also forget to mention your kid is also blind and has a wooden leg leaving him with more disadvantages. He also plays for a club team filled with Dad coaches and practices at horrible facilities......Oh and his parents are [lacrosse] as well leaving him with more disadvantages....

Given this is the first year with all clubs merged into one league, I'm curious to hear about which clubs picked the right divisions. From what you can tell so far this year, are there clubs who should have picked A vs. AA, are there clubs that picked AA that should be slotted in A? With so many clubs I'm sure that some guessed wrong but didn't know any better.

API Diamondbacks
Crabs
Hawks--Buy
FCA - Blue--Sell
Team 9ty1--Sell
Rough Riders--Hold
Bethesda Blue--Hold
Madlax - Capital--sell
3D Select--Sell
Cannons--Sell
Storm--sell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

You also forget to mention your kid is also blind and has a wooden leg leaving him with more disadvantages. He also plays for a club team filled with Dad coaches and practices at horrible facilities......Oh and his parents are [lacrosse] as well leaving him with more disadvantages....

That is just totally uncalled for. Comments like this just proves what an [lacrosse] you are. Never attack a kid that way. I bet you wouldn't have the nerve or courage to say that to his father in person. You are just such a big man hiding behind your computer. You [lacrosse] are clearly [lacrosse].

Guess you're one of those idiot hold back daddy's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

Don't bring logic to this conversation. Those parents knew little Tommy was going to be good at lacrosse when he got to middle school so they signed up to pay an extra $25,000 for him to go to prefirst because they knew he wouldn't be able to compete with kids his own age. HOLDBACK HOLDBACK HOLDBACK

Logic has nothing to do with it. If you think that there are not MANY MANY children held back in kindergartner for the sole purpose to get an advantage, you are either clueless or have no child in a MIAA school... The advantage could be sports for some and academics for others...and of course some could use the extra time before going to First grade...Saying all that..Youth sports is for age and letting a select group get an advantage due to them holding their child back goes against all values in youth sports.

My boys are at an MIAA school. And there are lots of prefirst kids. But you know what? Most of them don't even play sports. All of them were late spring summer birthdays that the school recommended prefirst to based on cognitive skills and preparedness for first grade.

Please tell me. When did youth sports get to the point where a 12 year old couldn't play with and against 13 year olds? My high school age son did. And my middle school son played in 2 year groupings in rec when he was younger. What is the concern? The kids aren't being recruited in 6th and 7th grade, so who cares if there are a few kids that might be a few months older than the rest?

You are full of it. I have Boys in a MIAA school too. Sorry..But many play sports.You can see the crabs rosters and the Crabs are littered with MIAA prefirst kids.. In the last years there has been a rise in number of prefirsts with the competitive nature of sports at MIAA and heavy recruitment that goes on there..Parents arent stupid. Hold your kid back, advantage gained. Frankly I could care less as long as it was confined to school teams.

Whats wrong with 12 year old playing against 13. I guess as long as the 13 year old is your son its great. Ever hear of fairplay in YOUTH sports. Ever hear of what is right and what is wrong? We dont give special kids an advantage over the majority of kids last I heard.
All the preaching about Character development in the private schools must have passed you by.It is a constant theme at ALL the schools.

API Diamondbacks--Hold
Crabs--Buy
Hawks--Buy
FCA - Blue--Sell
Team 9ty1--Sell
Rough Riders--Hold
Bethesda Blue--Hold
Madlax - Capital--sell
3D Select--Sell
Cannons--Sell
Storm--sell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

You also forget to mention your kid is also blind and has a wooden leg leaving him with more disadvantages. He also plays for a club team filled with Dad coaches and practices at horrible facilities......Oh and his parents are [lacrosse] as well leaving him with more disadvantages....

That is just totally uncalled for. Comments like this just proves what an [lacrosse] you are. Never attack a kid that way. I bet you wouldn't have the nerve or courage to say that to his father in person. You are just such a big man hiding behind your computer. You [lacrosse] are clearly [lacrosse].

Relax Francis...I think both of them were being sarcastic and joking?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holdbacks are born before sept1 2003

They are not. A holdback is a reclass. It is a kid who repeats a grade -- usually eighth grade -- for non-academic reasons. It is for the purpose of gaining an athletic advantage. A child who holds off beginning kindegarten because he has a late summer birthday is not a holdback. Ask any kindegarten teacher: he or she will tell you that boys are better off waiting if they are a late summer birthday. You might thing: what difference does a couple of months make. Well, it makes a tremendous amount of difference. If you know anything about development or have ever taken an developmental education class, you would know this. Particularly in the modern classroom where kindergarten is what first grade used to be. Students are expected to be reading! This is why pre-first came about in private schools. Kids simply are not ready for the rigor of the curriculum when they are months younger than classmates. It gives parents the prerogative of waiting until the child is ready so that they do not fail from the beginning. If you do not have the option and are not a private school person, you can opt to wait to begin kindergarten in public school if you are a late summer birthday. Do some research about school readiness. Any kindergarten teacher will agree it is advisable. And don't even get me started about a co-ed situation. Boys are typically a full year behind girls in readiness and maturity.

Don't bring logic to this conversation. Those parents knew little Tommy was going to be good at lacrosse when he got to middle school so they signed up to pay an extra $25,000 for him to go to prefirst because they knew he wouldn't be able to compete with kids his own age. HOLDBACK HOLDBACK HOLDBACK

Logic has nothing to do with it. If you think that there are not MANY MANY children held back in kindergartner for the sole purpose to get an advantage, you are either clueless or have no child in a MIAA school... The advantage could be sports for some and academics for others...and of course some could use the extra time before going to First grade...Saying all that..Youth sports is for age and letting a select group get an advantage due to them holding their child back goes against all values in youth sports.

My boys are at an MIAA school. And there are lots of prefirst kids. But you know what? Most of them don't even play sports. All of them were late spring summer birthdays that the school recommended prefirst to based on cognitive skills and preparedness for first grade.

Please tell me. When did youth sports get to the point where a 12 year old couldn't play with and against 13 year olds? My high school age son did. And my middle school son played in 2 year groupings in rec when he was younger. What is the concern? The kids aren't being recruited in 6th and 7th grade, so who cares if there are a few kids that might be a few months older than the rest?

You are right. It wont kill my just turned 12 year ild 2022 kid from playing a 13 yo Crabs 2022 kid. But. It also wont hurt the 13 y.o 2022 crab kid to play 2021 (his true age team) or against 14 year olds in 2020 either.....righr?

API Diamondbacks--Hold
Crabs--Buy
Hawks--Buy
FCA - Blue--Sell
Team 9ty1--Sell
Rough Riders--Hold
Bethesda Blue--Hold
Madlax - Capital--sell
3D Select--Sell
Cannons--Sell
Storm--sell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess you're one of those idiot hold back daddy's

That is your response for a total [lacrosse] that said that about a kid? You are just as much of an [lacrosse] as he (or maybe you are the same poster) but you are a total disgrace.
Holdback daddy, no, I don't even have a kid in 2022. Why don't you go elsewhere and spread your cruel attacks on a kid, it is totally out of place here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

You also forget to mention your kid is also blind and has a wooden leg leaving him with more disadvantages. He also plays for a club team filled with Dad coaches and practices at horrible facilities......Oh and his parents are [lacrosse] as well leaving him with more disadvantages....

That is just totally uncalled for. Comments like this just proves what an [lacrosse] you are. Never attack a kid that way. I bet you wouldn't have the nerve or courage to say that to his father in person. You are just such a big man hiding behind your computer. You [lacrosse] are clearly [lacrosse].

Relax Francis...I think both of them were being sarcastic and joking?

Makes no difference, either sarcastic or joking, no need to say that about a kid or his parents. It is way out of line and shows total disrespect. Mature adults should not be acting this way. Challenge anything you want but those kind of statements are out of line.

Coaches are allowed to check any rosters at anytime. If a player has a late 2003 birthdate and is in 6th grade it does not mean they are holdbacks.. Im pretty sure their parents didn't know at 4 yrs old when making school decisions the kid would even like lacrosse or any other sport they tried.
late 2004 parents who think their kids are at a disadvantage against 2003 kids might want to stay in the REC leagues. If you don't want your child to be pushed and compete against the best kids in his GRADE(club ball).
Mid birthdays are no different, either your kid is good enough to play against kids a few months older or younger or not.
Some teams that play each other every year know the personnel of he rosters. Most of the really good and even bigger stronger kids are late to mid days.

Why are the Crabs not playing in the league right in their own back yard?

everyone knows who they have played because they have played everybody from NY,Philly,NJ,VA and MD except Crabs!

Who have they beat this year? not previous years? Crabs have played weaker competition all fall except MAdLAx and have not played anyone yet in HOCO. The rest of the teams have been challenging each other all year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the Crabs not playing in the league right in their own back yard?

Are you talking about the MPLL? RM said that he feels a Saturdays are the best days to practice due to kids not having school and being more focused. Thinks practice more important than games when they already play games on Sunday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who have they beat this year? not previous years? Crabs have played weaker competition all fall except MAdLAx and have not played anyone yet in HOCO. The rest of the teams have been challenging each other all year.

Crabs has played FCA, Roughriders, Cannons(twice), madlax(3 times) since fall. As well as a controlled scrimmage with Diamondbacks. They were supposed to play 9ty1 twice, but 9ty1 backed out both times. They play next Friday so I guess we will see how it goes. We are 3 weeks into the season. Not like Crabs is ducking anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have some informed opinions, if not always civil, on this board. Who has surprised for better or worse? Who would you buy, sell or hold in this HoCo group?

API Diamondbacks
Crabs
Hawks
FCA - Blue
Team 9ty1
Rough Riders
Bethesda Blue
Madlax - Capital
3D Select
Cannons
Storm

API Diamondbacks - Hold
Crabs - Buy
Hawks - Buy
FCA - Blue - Sell
Team 9ty1 - Sell
Rough Riders - Sell
Bethesda Blue - Hold
Madlax - Capital - Sell
3D Select - Sell
Cannons - Sell
Storm - Sell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches are allowed to check any rosters at anytime. If a player has a late 2003 birthdate and is in 6th grade it does not mean they are holdbacks.. Im pretty sure their parents didn't know at 4 yrs old when making school decisions the kid would even like lacrosse or any other sport they tried.
late 2004 parents who think their kids are at a disadvantage against 2003 kids might want to stay in the REC leagues. If you don't want your child to be pushed and compete against the best kids in his GRADE(club ball).
Mid birthdays are no different, either your kid is good enough to play against kids a few months older or younger or not.
Some teams that play each other every year know the personnel of he rosters. Most of the really good and even bigger stronger kids are late to mid days.

Kids who have birthdays after Sept. 1 2003 have to be in 6th grade because they started kindergarten with 2004. They could not start kindergarten with 2004s. Trust me... I tried to send my kid. The school wouldn't let me!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches are allowed to check any rosters at anytime. If a player has a late 2003 birthdate and is in 6th grade it does not mean they are holdbacks.. Im pretty sure their parents didn't know at 4 yrs old when making school decisions the kid would even like lacrosse or any other sport they tried.
late 2004 parents who think their kids are at a disadvantage against 2003 kids might want to stay in the REC leagues. If you don't want your child to be pushed and compete against the best kids in his GRADE(club ball).
Mid birthdays are no different, either your kid is good enough to play against kids a few months older or younger or not.
Some teams that play each other every year know the personnel of he rosters. Most of the really good and even bigger stronger kids are late to mid days.

Kids who have birthdays after Sept. 1 2003 have to be in 6th grade because they started kindergarten with 2004. They could not start kindergarten with 2004s. Trust me... I tried to send my kid. The school wouldn't let me!

I mean they could not start with 2003s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

You also forget to mention your kid is also blind and has a wooden leg leaving him with more disadvantages. He also plays for a club team filled with Dad coaches and practices at horrible facilities......Oh and his parents are [lacrosse] as well leaving him with more disadvantages....

That is just totally uncalled for. Comments like this just proves what an [lacrosse] you are. Never attack a kid that way. I bet you wouldn't have the nerve or courage to say that to his father in person. You are just such a big man hiding behind your computer. You [lacrosse] are clearly [lacrosse].

Relax Francis...I think both of them were being sarcastic and joking?

Makes no difference, either sarcastic or joking, no need to say that about a kid or his parents. It is way out of line and shows total disrespect. Mature adults should not be acting this way. Challenge anything you want but those kind of statements are out of line.

Go ice down your vagina...Sissy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches are allowed to check any rosters at anytime. If a player has a late 2003 birthdate and is in 6th grade it does not mean they are holdbacks.. Im pretty sure their parents didn't know at 4 yrs old when making school decisions the kid would even like lacrosse or any other sport they tried.
late 2004 parents who think their kids are at a disadvantage against 2003 kids might want to stay in the REC leagues. If you don't want your child to be pushed and compete against the best kids in his GRADE(club ball).
Mid birthdays are no different, either your kid is good enough to play against kids a few months older or younger or not.
Some teams that play each other every year know the personnel of he rosters. Most of the really good and even bigger stronger kids are late to mid days.

Not disputing what you are saying but that thought process can go the other way....maybe the "older" 6th grader should be the one playing REC if he isn't good enough to play with kids on his age. I posted earlier that my son was born premie in the summer and is in the 4th grade. He started with his club when it was u9 and moved up and is now on a 2023 team even though he is in 4th grade

Also, don't be so sure parents aren't making decisions at 4 years old? You would be surprised ESPECIALLY if they have older kids who are experiencing this now. I have seen and heard it with my own 2 eyes and ears from parents on my son's teams who have younger ones

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

You also forget to mention your kid is also blind and has a wooden leg leaving him with more disadvantages. He also plays for a club team filled with Dad coaches and practices at horrible facilities......Oh and his parents are [lacrosse] as well leaving him with more disadvantages....

That is just totally uncalled for. Comments like this just proves what an [lacrosse] you are. Never attack a kid that way. I bet you wouldn't have the nerve or courage to say that to his father in person. You are just such a big man hiding behind your computer. You [lacrosse] are clearly [lacrosse].

Relax Francis...I think both of them were being sarcastic and joking?

Makes no difference, either sarcastic or joking, no need to say that about a kid or his parents. It is way out of line and shows total disrespect. Mature adults should not be acting this way. Challenge anything you want but those kind of statements are out of line.

Go ice down your vagina...Sissy

Funny

Madlax 2022 is the best in this league. You'll see.

Selected games for MPLL and HoCo. Predictions?

MPLL
Hawks vs. Rough Riders
Team Nine One vs. FCA
API vs. Koopers

HoCo
Madlax vs. Team Nine One
Cannons vs. Hawks
API vs. Bethesda
FCA vs. Rough Riders
Storm vs. 3D

MPLL
Hawks vs. Rough Riders (Hawks)
Team Nine One vs. FCA (Nine One)
API vs. Koopers (API)

HoCo
Madlax vs. Team Nine One (Madlax)
Cannons vs. Hawks (Hawks)
API vs. Bethesda (API)
FCA vs. Rough Riders (RR)
Storm vs. 3D (Storm)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MPLL
Hawks vs. Rough Riders (Hawks)
Team Nine One vs. FCA (Nine One)
API vs. Koopers (API)

HoCo
Madlax vs. Team Nine One (Madlax)
Cannons vs. Hawks (Hawks)
API vs. Bethesda (API)
FCA vs. Rough Riders (RR)
Storm vs. 3D (Storm)

Oh great. Now you jinxed us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow my kid is a 2022 and he's born beginning of September 2004. I see he's at a MAJOR disadvantage compared to kids on this board.

You also forget to mention your kid is also blind and has a wooden leg leaving him with more disadvantages. He also plays for a club team filled with Dad coaches and practices at horrible facilities......Oh and his parents are [lacrosse] as well leaving him with more disadvantages....

That is just totally uncalled for. Comments like this just proves what an [lacrosse] you are. Never attack a kid that way. I bet you wouldn't have the nerve or courage to say that to his father in person. You are just such a big man hiding behind your computer. You [lacrosse] are clearly [lacrosse].

Relax Francis...I think both of them were being sarcastic and joking?

Makes no difference, either sarcastic or joking, no need to say that about a kid or his parents. It is way out of line and shows total disrespect. Mature adults should not be acting this way. Challenge anything you want but those kind of statements are out of line.

Go ice down your vagina...Sissy

That is what your wife does after finishing the five guys while you are at work. She must have told you about it.

Go ice down your vagina...Sissy

Funny

You must be that posters lap dog.

Can FCA get back to back wins against 9 1 ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can FCA get back to back wins against 9 1 ?

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can FCA get back to back wins against 9 1 ?

No

who care...They are both crappy teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go ice down your vagina...Sissy

Funny

You must be that posters lap dog.

Lotta anger there Francis! I recommend some PT training with Sgt Hulka to relax you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go ice down your vagina...Sissy

Funny

You must be that posters lap dog.

Lotta anger there Francis! I recommend some PT training with Sgt Hulka to relax you.

No anger at all Otto, seems you are the one stressed out. I'll pass on Sgt Hulka but it might do you good to spend some time with R Lee Ermey, may get you settled down.

Hey koopers dad...guess you can stop with the Koopers being undefeated now after your 11-2 loss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey koopers dad...guess you can stop with the Koopers being undefeated now after your 11-2 loss.

Who beat them??

Diamondbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey koopers dad...guess you can stop with the Koopers being undefeated now after your 11-2 loss.

Who beat them??

Diamondbacks. Koopers is a B team. They can't beat any of the good teams. Yet Koopers dad has been on here for weeks saying they are undefeated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 is the best in this league. You'll see.

Hard to prove you are the best when you don't even make the layoffs.

Hoco Playoff picture is shaping up. Top 5 teams will make the playoffs.

3 Undefeated teams in Hoco (Diamondbacks, Crabs, Hawks) and could stay that way since they don't play each other. The 1st tie breaker is the winning percentage of the opposing teams. Hard to say who's opponents will have the best winning percentage. It could wind up that the 1 thru 3 seeds will be decided by how Hoco scheduled the games and not on-field performance of the teams.

Besides the top 3, FCA, 91 and RoughRiders are 2-1 and will likely take the two other playoff spots.

Crabs have 91, FCA, & RoughRiders left on schedule. Hawks have RoughRiders & FCA. Diamondbacks have FCA & Cannons. FCA has a tough couple games ahead.

Bethesda, Madlax, & Storm are 1-3 and need some help to make the playoffs.

Hawks and diamondbacks win out crabs lose 1 or game.

91 with a big come back win today over MadLax. Go win for a good team. MadLax is a team none will want to face in playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 with a big come back win today over MadLax. Go win for a good team. MadLax is a team none will want to face in playoffs

Too bad madlax won't make the playoffs.

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Lax parents need to be less clueless.

If a kid leaves your team to play for another team, you might want to ask why.

What exactly is considered a "big program?" A full roster? The ability to sub?

PSA: if you want to rebuild a fledgling program, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

Sometimes the grass is greener.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Lax parents need to be less clueless.

If a kid leaves your team to play for another team, you might want to ask why.

What exactly is considered a "big program?" A full roster? The ability to sub?

PSA: if you want to rebuild a fledgling program, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

Sometimes the grass is greener.

So your looking for honey?

Didn't realize the parents wanted their son to be subbed out of the games. Not what they demonstrated in the past. Unfortunately now he is the hardly used sub.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Lax parents need to be less clueless.

If a kid leaves your team to play for another team, you might want to ask why.

What exactly is considered a "big program?" A full roster? The ability to sub?

PSA: if you want to rebuild a fledgling program, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

Sometimes the grass is greener.

Statement from one of the recruited to weaken another team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Lax parents need to be less clueless.

If a kid leaves your team to play for another team, you might want to ask why.

What exactly is considered a "big program?" A full roster? The ability to sub?

PSA: if you want to rebuild a fledgling program, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

Sometimes the grass is greener.

I love the big programs only want money statement. Yes the big clubs are more for and about money. But guess what you do get what you pay for is 99% of the cases. Yes most of the top clubs skim and charge 400 to 600 more then they really need to. But these clubs have the pull to play in the top tournaments and also to make sure your son if good enough or really if he is not good enough to get them into these top showcases. I have friends with 2019 kids on the cheap clubs and on the big money clubs. And the kids on the big money club have the pick of the litter when it comes to showcases and college camp days. We can agree these are/might be money grabs but you have the option when you play for a big club.

Sounds like the cannons team more kids leaving?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Lax parents need to be less clueless.

If a kid leaves your team to play for another team, you might want to ask why.

What exactly is considered a "big program?" A full roster? The ability to sub?

PSA: if you want to rebuild a fledgling program, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

Sometimes the grass is greener.

I love the big programs only want money statement. Yes the big clubs are more for and about money. But guess what you do get what you pay for is 99% of the cases. Yes most of the top clubs skim and charge 400 to 600 more then they really need to. But these clubs have the pull to play in the top tournaments and also to make sure your son if good enough or really if he is not good enough to get them into these top showcases. I have friends with 2019 kids on the cheap clubs and on the big money clubs. And the kids on the big money club have the pick of the litter when it comes to showcases and college camp days. We can agree these are/might be money grabs but you have the option when you play for a big club.

Showcases and day camps? You talking about prospect camps?

Those invites have nothing to do with your club team. Most are money grabs too. All players recieve those invites. Some are actually getting a legit look others are used as filler players so the ones that are really there for a look have someone to play against.

What do you think is the likelihood that a recruiter will see your son play when there are multiple games being played at the same time at these tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Lax parents need to be less clueless.

If a kid leaves your team to play for another team, you might want to ask why.

What exactly is considered a "big program?" A full roster? The ability to sub?

PSA: if you want to rebuild a fledgling program, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

Sometimes the grass is greener.

I love the big programs only want money statement. Yes the big clubs are more for and about money. But guess what you do get what you pay for is 99% of the cases. Yes most of the top clubs skim and charge 400 to 600 more then they really need to. But these clubs have the pull to play in the top tournaments and also to make sure your son if good enough or really if he is not good enough to get them into these top showcases. I have friends with 2019 kids on the cheap clubs and on the big money clubs. And the kids on the big money club have the pick of the litter when it comes to showcases and college camp days. We can agree these are/might be money grabs but you have the option when you play for a big club.

Gonna be alot of college recruiters at the 12 year olds game. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Lax parents need to be less clueless.

If a kid leaves your team to play for another team, you might want to ask why.

What exactly is considered a "big program?" A full roster? The ability to sub?

PSA: if you want to rebuild a fledgling program, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

Sometimes the grass is greener.

I love the big programs only want money statement. Yes the big clubs are more for and about money. But guess what you do get what you pay for is 99% of the cases. Yes most of the top clubs skim and charge 400 to 600 more then they really need to. But these clubs have the pull to play in the top tournaments and also to make sure your son if good enough or really if he is not good enough to get them into these top showcases. I have friends with 2019 kids on the cheap clubs and on the big money clubs. And the kids on the big money club have the pick of the litter when it comes to showcases and college camp days. We can agree these are/might be money grabs but you have the option when you play for a big club.

Showcases and day camps? You talking about prospect camps?

Those invites have nothing to do with your club team. Most are money grabs too. All players recieve those invites. Some are actually getting a legit look others are used as filler players so the ones that are really there for a look have someone to play against.

What do you think is the likelihood that a recruiter will see your son play when there are multiple games being played at the same time at these tournaments?

No offense, but you're off the mark here. This person above is just bitter grapes. When the season ends, and your team loses players like a stab victim loses blood, take a look at the coaches and families on your team. There's your problem. Nobody wants to spend a year in a sea of negativity and in-fighting. Just isn't worth it no matter whether you're always winning or the kid is a starter. NO FUN.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax parents need to be smarter.

If your kid is being recruited to play for another program you may want to ask why?

Is it that they think my son is good and they need him? OR
Is it that they want to weaken a team they have never been able to beat?

Sad when you think your child is needed on the other team and your son barely plays now. (After being a starter and having a big role on the other team)

Sad when he finally does get in the game he looks pretty mediocre and shows no growth.

Pick wisely. The grass isn't always greener.

Parents have to remember that these big programs that carry a lot of kids do so to make money.

Lax parents need to be less clueless.

If a kid leaves your team to play for another team, you might want to ask why.

What exactly is considered a "big program?" A full roster? The ability to sub?

PSA: if you want to rebuild a fledgling program, you get more flies with honey than vinegar.

Sometimes the grass is greener.

I love the big programs only want money statement. Yes the big clubs are more for and about money. But guess what you do get what you pay for is 99% of the cases. Yes most of the top clubs skim and charge 400 to 600 more then they really need to. But these clubs have the pull to play in the top tournaments and also to make sure your son if good enough or really if he is not good enough to get them into these top showcases. I have friends with 2019 kids on the cheap clubs and on the big money clubs. And the kids on the big money club have the pick of the litter when it comes to showcases and college camp days. We can agree these are/might be money grabs but you have the option when you play for a big club.

Showcases and day camps? You talking about prospect camps?

Those invites have nothing to do with your club team. Most are money grabs too. All players recieve those invites. Some are actually getting a legit look others are used as filler players so the ones that are really there for a look have someone to play against.

What do you think is the likelihood that a recruiter will see your son play when there are multiple games being played at the same time at these tournaments?

Not sure these recruiters that come out to the 12 year old games are going to find a player that is on the sideline. He may need to actually be seen playing.

For the younger kids, coaching, amount of practice time, and effectiveness of practice time is by far the most important aspect of any club.

For the older kids in high school, 8th grade, and even some in 7th grade, the club and coach contacts with high schools and colleges become more important.

My 2 cents

I am hoping the NCAA steps in a limits this stuff until junior year....and I have already gone through this with my 2 older older kids who play for top D1 schools (academics/lacrosse).Hoping that my younger son can just focus on his game when he is in 8th grade instead of trying to impress college coaches...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am hoping the NCAA steps in a limits this stuff until junior year....and I have already gone through this with my 2 older older kids who play for top D1 schools (academics/lacrosse).Hoping that my younger son can just focus on his game when he is in 8th grade instead of trying to impress college coaches...

Ha good one....just checked this on snopes and it says your a big fat liar.....

Yeah our family has gone through this as well with our 3 boys....Yale, Penn, Princeton...Please stop calling our 8th grader

Ha but don't forget about the LI 8th grader who committed to PSU earlier this year....only 2 years away for our 2022s!

What's funny is a verbal commitment means nothing ...

True, but bad form for the school to break it--word gets around and the next crop of recruits may think twice about committing...schools now are more subtle: will tell a senior before signing day that he or she may want to reconsider attending because playing time looks dim.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, but bad form for the school to break it--word gets around and the next crop of recruits may think twice about committing...schools now are more subtle: will tell a senior before signing day that he or she may want to reconsider attending because playing time looks dim.

Also, verbals are just something for the headlines. Essentially, the school is saying that they want you; however, certain criteria must be met before any actual commitment. GPA and SAT scores, for instance, must be of a certain level. As does the continued growth in ability on the field as well as endeavors off the field.

Who will stay undefeated this weekend?

Why did hoco schedule change?

Coach from team 91 won't play rough riders because his son got hit. So they change the schedule for him. Diamondbacks play rough riders and team 91 plays cannons... What a Baby

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why did hoco schedule change?

????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why did hoco schedule change?

Come on. Check the old schedule and you will find your answer if you have been around these teams for the last few years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach from team 91 won't play rough riders because his son got hit. So they change the schedule for him. Diamondbacks play rough riders and team 91 plays cannons... What a Baby

Not true. Roughriders v Hawks has been on the schedule for 5/6 since the beginning. Stop stirring the pot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach from team 91 won't play rough riders because his son got hit. So they change the schedule for him. Diamondbacks play rough riders and team 91 plays cannons... What a Baby

Not true. Roughriders v Hawks has been on the schedule for 5/6 since the beginning. Stop stirring the pot.

Roughriders vs Hawks is tonight. No is stirring the pot. 91 was supposed to play Roughriders Saturday. They refuse to play each other so now 91 plays Cannons and Roughriders plays D-Backs. Just like the posters said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach from team 91 won't play rough riders because his son got hit. So they change the schedule for him. Diamondbacks play rough riders and team 91 plays cannons... What a Baby

Not true. Roughriders v Hawks has been on the schedule for 5/6 since the beginning. Stop stirring the pot.

Roughriders vs Hawks is tonight. No is stirring the pot. 91 was supposed to play Roughriders Saturday. They refuse to play each other so now 91 plays Cannons and Roughriders plays D-Backs. Just like the posters said.

What happens if they have to play each other in playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach from team 91 won't play rough riders because his son got hit. So they change the schedule for him. Diamondbacks play rough riders and team 91 plays cannons... What a Baby

The current rules in Hoco and the way they are applied by the refs are not designed to protect YOUTH players. Wish all coaches would do a bit more to keep the kids safe or challenge the status quo a bit. Maybe we would not have teams of holdbacks at the 2021 and 2020 level despite the rules; maybe fogos would not be flying in from Florida to participate in only some games despite playing for a high school team in Florida which is also against the hoco rules that are ignored. There may be better ways of handling this particular issue but any kind of criticism or request for rule enforcement or greater ref awareness goes unanswered in hoco and it is a coach' first priority to protect their players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach from team 91 won't play rough riders because his son got hit. So they change the schedule for him. Diamondbacks play rough riders and team 91 plays cannons... What a Baby

Not true. Roughriders v Hawks has been on the schedule for 5/6 since the beginning. Stop stirring the pot.

Roughriders vs Hawks is tonight. No is stirring the pot. 91 was supposed to play Roughriders Saturday. They refuse to play each other so now 91 plays Cannons and Roughriders plays D-Backs. Just like the posters said.

So which it... "They refuse to play one another" or the coach refuses to play which is the earlier accusation? Sounds like maybe it was warranted if Hoco changed the schedule for them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach from team 91 won't play rough riders because his son got hit. So they change the schedule for him. Diamondbacks play rough riders and team 91 plays cannons... What a Baby

Not true. Roughriders v Hawks has been on the schedule for 5/6 since the beginning. Stop stirring the pot.

Roughriders vs Hawks is tonight. No is stirring the pot. 91 was supposed to play Roughriders Saturday. They refuse to play each other so now 91 plays Cannons and Roughriders plays D-Backs. Just like the posters said.

What happens if they have to play each other in playoffs?

RoughRiders gag on it so they aren't in any playoffs

Team 9D1 takes out the Crabs. Only Dbacks and Hawks left undefeated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 9D1 takes out the Crabs. Only Dbacks and Hawks left undefeated.

I thought Hawks beat dbacks pretty badly a few weeks ago?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Crabs 2022 goes down to team 91 Comical how the Crabs parents think their bigger, older, kids should be allowed to use their size for illegal cross checks, pushes, checks to the head, slashes to the back and legs, etc. without being penalized.

What do expect when a crab parent loses? This person probably never played the game just like his club director and is going to take pot shots at people who know the game and thr way it should be played. God forbid anyone wants to keep kids safe and to teach them to rely on skill and finesse instead of hitting. But crabs knows nothing but bigger and stronger and older so would not expect them to understand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 9D1 takes out the Crabs. Only Dbacks and Hawks left undefeated.

I thought Hawks beat dbacks pretty badly a few weeks ago?

They did in the MPLL and they will do it again in the HOCO playoffs. Dbacks are not the team they used to be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 9D1 takes out the Crabs. Only Dbacks and Hawks left undefeated.

I thought Hawks beat dbacks pretty badly a few weeks ago?

They did in the MPLL and they will do it again in the HOCO playoffs. Dbacks are not the team they used to be.

Wrong DBacks same team as always Hawks are a different team added 4 cannons players and 3 holdback players. Plus 2 kids from OC and 2 from Baltimore. Plus a coach for every kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 9D1 takes out the Crabs. Only Dbacks and Hawks left undefeated.

I thought Hawks beat dbacks pretty badly a few weeks ago?

They did in the MPLL and they will do it again in the HOCO playoffs. Dbacks are not the team they used to be.

Wrong DBacks same team as always Hawks are a different team added 4 cannons players and 3 holdback players. Plus 2 kids from OC and 2 from Baltimore. Plus a coach for every kid.

Dbacks players leaving to go play elsewhere because of dbag coaches and daddy ball. Next year they will be a b level team at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 9D1 takes out the Crabs. Only Dbacks and Hawks left undefeated.

I thought Hawks beat dbacks pretty badly a few weeks ago?

They did in the MPLL and they will do it again in the HOCO playoffs. Dbacks are not the team they used to be.

Wrong DBacks same team as always Hawks are a different team added 4 cannons players and 3 holdback players. Plus 2 kids from OC and 2 from Baltimore. Plus a coach for every kid.

Not one thing here is true. My son's friend is on that team. This is complete fabrication.

that statement about the Hawks is a flat out lie. Funny how half the the Dbacks go to school or play other sports with the hawks players .. same rosters with 4 total new kids and 1 coach.
telling lies on here won't make it better for you next time they meet.

Good Win , Crabs did not look like an undefeated team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that statement about the Hawks is a flat out lie. Funny how half the the Dbacks go to school or play other sports with the hawks players .. same rosters with 4 total new kids and 1 coach.
telling lies on here won't make it better for you next time they meet.

I bet half of that dbacks team shows up at hawks tryouts in August.

Don't expect that .. The last time the Hawks and Dbacks met it was raining and on a non- regulated grass field . The Dbacks are fast and finesse team .. They could not use their speed . That day they got beat by a good Hawks team . It will be a much better game this time but first Dbacks have to by team 91 which a much bigger team . I will say this the Dbacks is the best 6 th grade 2022 team out . They have no hold backs on the team everybody will return .sorry to upset you guys but no hold backs and they still compete with your teams that multiple hold backs .. Is fun losing to a bunch of 6th graders when your teams have hold backs it's sad to think your teams are good when you have hold backs...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 9D1 takes out the Crabs. Only Dbacks and Hawks left undefeated.

I thought Hawks beat dbacks pretty badly a few weeks ago?

They did in the MPLL and they will do it again in the HOCO playoffs. Dbacks are not the team they used to be.

Wrong DBacks same team as always Hawks are a different team added 4 cannons players and 3 holdback players. Plus 2 kids from OC and 2 from Baltimore. Plus a coach for every kid.

And they added a cyborg as well as an albino clone of Gary Gait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that statement about the Hawks is a flat out lie. Funny how half the the Dbacks go to school or play other sports with the hawks players .. same rosters with 4 total new kids and 1 coach.
telling lies on here won't make it better for you next time they meet.

I bet half of that dbacks team shows up at hawks tryouts in August.

More likely they will try out for Crabs and 9D1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't expect that .. The last time the Hawks and Dbacks met it was raining and on a non- regulated grass field . The Dbacks are fast and finesse team .. They could not use their speed . That day they got beat by a good Hawks team . It will be a much better game this time but first Dbacks have to by team 91 which a much bigger team . I will say this the Dbacks is the best 6 th grade 2022 team out . They have no hold backs on the team everybody will return .sorry to upset you guys but no hold backs and they still compete with your teams that multiple hold backs .. Is fun losing to a bunch of 6th graders when your teams have hold backs it's sad to think your teams are good when you have hold backs...

Keep making excuses.

The Dbacks have no excuses they beat got by Hawks and 91 . Do you consider getting beat by teams that have hold backs a win go ahead and think that because the boys on the Dbacks are playing up against older kids that makes them better .. The Hawks, crabs , Fca and 91 have to use hold backs and play against younger kids to say their good .. It's sad to think your a good team when your playing younger kids.. If you want to get better you play up and not younger kids ... ...( I beat a kid two years younger then me I'm a good player ). That's is very sad...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't expect that .. The last time the Hawks and Dbacks met it was raining and on a non- regulated grass field . The Dbacks are fast and finesse team .. They could not use their speed . That day they got beat by a good Hawks team . It will be a much better game this time but first Dbacks have to by team 91 which a much bigger team . I will say this the Dbacks is the best 6 th grade 2022 team out . They have no hold backs on the team everybody will return .sorry to upset you guys but no hold backs and they still compete with your teams that multiple hold backs .. Is fun losing to a bunch of 6th graders when your teams have hold backs it's sad to think your teams are good when you have hold backs...

A better excuse would be to blame API and those ugly uniforms.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Dbacks have no excuses they beat got by Hawks and 91 . Do you consider getting beat by teams that have hold backs a win go ahead and think that because the boys on the Dbacks are playing up against older kids that makes them better .. The Hawks, crabs , Fca and 91 have to use hold backs and play against younger kids to say their good .. It's sad to think your a good team when your playing younger kids.. If you want to get better you play up and not younger kids ... ...( I beat a kid two years younger then me I'm a good player ). That's is very sad...

You're doing worse than making excuses. You just accused all of these teams of something you have no clue about. You are spreading rumors and lies. Just shut up and enjoy the games. Leave this nonsense for the other boards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Dbacks have no excuses they beat got by Hawks and 91 . Do you consider getting beat by teams that have hold backs a win go ahead and think that because the boys on the Dbacks are playing up against older kids that makes them better .. The Hawks, crabs , Fca and 91 have to use hold backs and play against younger kids to say their good .. It's sad to think your a good team when your playing younger kids.. If you want to get better you play up and not younger kids ... ...( I beat a kid two years younger then me I'm a good player ). That's is very sad...

I can only assume (and hope) that you are the exception when it comes to Dback parents. What are you talking about? In life, are you always going to make excuses and complain? What do you do for a living? Grow up man...

After every game... no matter who they play, I see my son talking to friends, friends he has made from playing lacrosse. They follow each other on instagram, they meet up at Bayhawks games, they text. If they knew the things parents say to each other on BOTC, they would be mortified. My son once said after a game (where parents were behaving badly) that adults ruin everything. Boy, is he right. What is wrong with you people? Sore losers, finger pointing, sour grapes, name calling. For what? A 12-year-old lacrosse league. You're all pathetic. If you think someone is cheating, ask the coach or the league for a roster. Quit whining.

I speak the truth and you can't handle it...no rumors the truth ..

What rumors ? You are saying team 91 ,crabs , FCA and Hawks don't have hold backs... The truth is they do .. That is a fact..

You right I agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Dbacks have no excuses they beat got by Hawks and 91 . Do you consider getting beat by teams that have hold backs a win go ahead and think that because the boys on the Dbacks are playing up against older kids that makes them better .. The Hawks, crabs , Fca and 91 have to use hold backs and play against younger kids to say their good .. It's sad to think your a good team when your playing younger kids.. If you want to get better you play up and not younger kids ... ...( I beat a kid two years younger then me I'm a good player ). That's is very sad...

I feel sorry for this person.

I'll be happy to bring my 12 year olds, 6th graders birth certificate to any game. My 12 year old is superior to many of the hold back boys and...they are older! So keep holding your donkey kids back. My boy will continue to beat their asses!

Throwing out lies because Dbacks lost 2 games to good teams. You do not need to keep lying on here defending your holdback nonsense. You
Make it clear what type of loser you really are. Sore and bitter..Why don't you go ask your coach for age verification from those teams and then come back with crap.

Teams that won this weekend Hoco
Crabs beat FCA
Team 91 beat cannons
DBacks beat rough riders
Hawks beat rough riders
Team 91 beat Crabs

Two teams still undefeated in HOCO
Hawks
DBacks

Prove it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll be happy to bring my 12 year olds, 6th graders birth certificate to any game. My 12 year old is superior to many of the hold back boys and...they are older! So keep holding your donkey kids back. My boy will continue to beat their asses!

Her Ka Leeze, her ka leeze, her ka leeze!!!

Cannons really 0-5 ? wow that team has dropped off quickly.

FCA 2-3 too....

HOCO needs to retrain refs and go to an age base league.

Too many families holding kids back or saying they are going to hold them back so their kids can play with the younger kids.

Not sure what checking rosters will do when the league is based on HS graduation year.

Right

Big games this week..

Bring it next week.

Got to see this stud 6th grader that is kicking everyone's [lacrosse]

Nothing?? I didn't think so.

For all you parents out there who have a boy 1 to 2 years older then the age appropriate for grade year: Your older kid isn't better then my kid if they win. Your kid should win. He's bigger, stronger and has more muscle mass. Your boy is actually playing down. Keep fooling yourself!

To the Hawks, 91, FCA, Crabs and all of the others: I look forward to the new rules. Your boys will play boys their age!

obviously from a parent of a holdback!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing?? I didn't think so.

For all you parents out there who have a boy 1 to 2 years older then the age appropriate for grade year: Your older kid isn't better then my kid if they win. Your kid should win. He's bigger, stronger and has more muscle mass. Your boy is actually playing down. Keep fooling yourself!

To the Hawks, 91, FCA, Crabs and all of the others: I look forward to the new rules. Your boys will play boys their age!

Don't fool yourself buddy... The age based rules won't really affect much. Not much will change ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing?? I didn't think so.

For all you parents out there who have a boy 1 to 2 years older then the age appropriate for grade year: Your older kid isn't better then my kid if they win. Your kid should win. He's bigger, stronger and has more muscle mass. Your boy is actually playing down. Keep fooling yourself!

To the Hawks, 91, FCA, Crabs and all of the others: I look forward to the new rules. Your boys will play boys their age!

Don't fool yourself buddy... The age based rules won't really affect much. Not much will change ....

Don't be so sure.

It will drastically change the make up of these teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing?? I didn't think so.

For all you parents out there who have a boy 1 to 2 years older then the age appropriate for grade year: Your older kid isn't better then my kid if they win. Your kid should win. He's bigger, stronger and has more muscle mass. Your boy is actually playing down. Keep fooling yourself!

To the Hawks, 91, FCA, Crabs and all of the others: I look forward to the new rules. Your boys will play boys their age!

Don't fool yourself buddy... The age based rules won't really affect much. Not much will change ....

Don't be so sure.

It will drastically change the make up of these teams.

The teams are not changing to match rules USL can't enforce. Things will stay grade based unless college coaches decide they don't want it that way. No clubs want age based other than the crappy ones that can't get holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams are not changing to match rules USL can't enforce. Things will stay grade based unless college coaches decide they don't want it that way. No clubs want age based other than the crappy ones that can't get holdbacks.

Can't get holdbacks? As if holdbacks are badges of honor?

Dback Daddy still on here crying that every other team his kid plays against is cheating and has holdbacks.. Comical and sad.

D-Backs have a kid who is bigger than any player we have seen at this age group.
guess he his a holdback?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing?? I didn't think so.

For all you parents out there who have a boy 1 to 2 years older then the age appropriate for grade year: Your older kid isn't better then my kid if they win. Your kid should win. He's bigger, stronger and has more muscle mass. Your boy is actually playing down. Keep fooling yourself!

To the Hawks, 91, FCA, Crabs and all of the others: I look forward to the new rules. Your boys will play boys their age!

You are insane. You seriously have no idea what you are talking about. I find it so interesting that when the Dbacks were winning -- for years, in fact -- no one accused them of cheating. But now that they are not winning, every other team is cheating. Sore loser. You're a bad example of sportsmanship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing?? I didn't think so.

For all you parents out there who have a boy 1 to 2 years older then the age appropriate for grade year: Your older kid isn't better then my kid if they win. Your kid should win. He's bigger, stronger and has more muscle mass. Your boy is actually playing down. Keep fooling yourself!

To the Hawks, 91, FCA, Crabs and all of the others: I look forward to the new rules. Your boys will play boys their age!

Don't fool yourself buddy... The age based rules won't really affect much. Not much will change ....

Don't be so sure.

It will drastically change the make up of these teams.

You don't know what you're talking about. It will not drastically change the make up of these teams. ASK FOR A ROSTER, WHINER. Ask for birthdates. I'm sure these teams will be happy to oblige to shut you up. But no, then you won't have an excuse for your team's losing...

Sorry guys that is not me ..I guess some one else agree's .. The big kid your talking about is not hold back sorry .

The U.S. Lacrosse might change the issue of Hold Back's but insurance companies might not insure the tournaments or league

The teams like Hawks , crabs, Fca and team 91 had to get hold backs to compete with DBacks . Yes Hawks beat Dbacks by 7 . Yes team 91 beat Dbacks by 2 . Dbacks lost to good teams but they wouldn't be that good if it was age based just like all the other sports ..lacrosse is the only sport is graduation year...

We will see donkey. Keep your [lacrosse] son playing with younger boys. He'll grow up to be a looser just like his father...or really the man his mother [lacrosse].

Why do they keep editing out Team (100-9)?

My last comment on this...for all you dads who play your kids down you are making them losers. You are giving them biology for now which will eventually equalize when all of the boys mature. My 12 year old will grow from your mistake. Your sons will fall below their peers. Their peers aren't 12 year older. They are older kids. Make the game about the sport...not YOUR son whimsy score one or two goals on a smaller boy.

Damn...a typo. They edit Team 82+9 but won't fix my errors! It should say "...not YOUR son who may score one or two goals on a smaller boy."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My last comment on this...for all you dads who play your kids down you are making them losers. You are giving them biology for now which will eventually equalize when all of the boys mature. My 12 year old will grow from your mistake. Your sons will fall below their peers. Their peers aren't 12 year older. They are older kids. Make the game about the sport...not YOUR son whimsy score one or two goals on a smaller boy.

For Christ sake we got it. Move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My last comment on this...for all you dads who play your kids down you are making them losers. You are giving them biology for now which will eventually equalize when all of the boys mature. My 12 year old will grow from your mistake. Your sons will fall below their peers. Their peers aren't 12 year older. They are older kids. Make the game about the sport...not YOUR son whimsy score one or two goals on a smaller boy.

If your son will grow from this, than you should be happy all these teams have holdbacks. Are these entire teams all holdbacks? It really doesn't matter for your little muffin if his opponent has 4 holdbacks but his man isn't. I hope sporto is kicking their butts...for his sake

What big kid? What team is he on?

An age base league and a required Maryland walking ID will fix all of this dumb [lacrosse].

If you are telling the truth that some of these kids aren't hold backs then you shouldn't have an issue with getting the ID.

There sure are some big 12 year olds growing up in Baltimore and Annapolis.

Great idea - let's self impose rules on our team and then join a league without those rules, then call everyone who beats us a cheater even if we have no idea if they are or are not following the rules we made up. Fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There sure are some big 12 year olds growing up in Baltimore and Annapolis.

And some really small ones, too. It's middle school, dummy. Kids grow at different times. Pay attention. The Little guys are getting the job done on these teams, too. Before you cry hold back and cheater, pay attention to what's happening on the field. Talk to the parents of the other team. There really are some very big and very small 12 year old players in this league. Don't make assumptions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great idea - let's self impose rules on our team and then join a league without those rules, then call everyone who beats us a cheater even if we have no idea if they are or are not following the rules we made up. Fun.

No one self imposes rules not allowing holdbacks. The clubs that don't have holdbacks just didn't have any show up at tryouts or accept spots on the team. No club would tell an older kid, if they are better, that they can't play for them. Most of the lower level clubs have prefirst kids on them too. You just don't notice them because they aren't good enough to stand out. Looneys 2022 has a bunch, and they play in the B division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great idea - let's self impose rules on our team and then join a league without those rules, then call everyone who beats us a cheater even if we have no idea if they are or are not following the rules we made up. Fun.

No one self imposes rules not allowing holdbacks. The clubs that don't have holdbacks just didn't have any show up at tryouts or accept spots on the team. No club would tell an older kid, if they are better, that they can't play for them. Most of the lower level clubs have prefirst kids on them too. You just don't notice them because they aren't good enough to stand out. Looneys 2022 has a bunch, and they play in the B division.

If half of what people say is the truth here..Maryland is the land of kids being heldback..There is no where else in the country like this. In the majority of country , holding your child back is looked at as having a child that is not able to keep up with 99% of kids his age. Most actually feel sorry for parents that their child couldnt make it in his grade. Here in Maryland it is celebrated it looks like!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great idea - let's self impose rules on our team and then join a league without those rules, then call everyone who beats us a cheater even if we have no idea if they are or are not following the rules we made up. Fun.

No one self imposes rules not allowing holdbacks. The clubs that don't have holdbacks just didn't have any show up at tryouts or accept spots on the team. No club would tell an older kid, if they are better, that they can't play for them. Most of the lower level clubs have prefirst kids on them too. You just don't notice them because they aren't good enough to stand out. Looneys 2022 has a bunch, and they play in the B division.

If half of what people say is the truth here..Maryland is the land of kids being heldback..There is no where else in the country like this. In the majority of country , holding your child back is looked at as having a child that is not able to keep up with 99% of kids his age. Most actually feel sorry for parents that their child couldnt make it in his grade. Here in Maryland it is celebrated it looks like!

No! 5% of what is said on here is not even true. If kids are held back, it is usually in 8th grade. I do not know any 6th grade holdbacks, and my kid is in 6th grade at an MIAA school. Yes, some kids do pre-first, but they are not doing it for sports. They are doing it because they are late summer birthdays and are too young to begin elementary school. Furthermore, none of those kids are on a club lacrosse team. None. People are conflating a lot of different issues here and acting like this is an epidemic. There are a few, yes. But not at all as it would seem from these ranting lunatics on this site. Especially at this age level. Everyone on my son's club team (which I shall name so as not to embarrass him or the coaches) is 11 or 12 years old. And it is a good team. Competitive. We know many other kids on other teams and the situation is the same. And some of the kids are huge 12 year olds. And some of the kids are small 12 year olds. What you have on this 2022 thread at this point is a case of sore loser-itis. You will find in MD that when a team that was formerly quite successful begins to have loses, rather than look to themselves, they immediately start accusing others of cheating. So much easier than working harder and off season!

Sometimes it's not working harder as much as working harder to keep kids. Then, the question is why do kids switch teams? Playing time, coaches, commitment, etc.

The sad thing is I hear they are doing this with the SAT test now . In private school they can take a extension on the SAT. They don't have to take the test all at ounce if the have note from a doctor . This is crazy ..everybody wants to bend or work the system some how ..The sad part is it's the parents not the kids..

All joking aside I don't care who has them or not . I don't care who beat who . But one fact you can't say it's not . It's a Safety issue with these much bigger and stronger kids.. Some one could really get hurt .The problem is that iswhat has to happen for them to change ,is some one has to be seriously hurt for them to change...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is I hear they are doing this with the SAT test now . In private school they can take a extension on the SAT. They don't have to take the test all at ounce if the have note from a doctor . This is crazy ..everybody wants to bend or work the system some how ..The sad part is it's the parents not the kids..

Any public school child can do this as well. It's called an accomodation, and it's so that children with learning differences have an opportunity to be successful taking the SAT or ACT. Don't be a dolt. It has nothing to do with entitlement. Or lacrosse for that matter. Or holding back. It has to do with allowing kids with learning differences to be successful. You nitwit. And it's not exclusive to private school. Geez. The ignorance of people on this site never, ever, ever ceases to amaze me. Get out and talk to some parents of other kids or teachers once in a while.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All joking aside I don't care who has them or not . I don't care who beat who . But one fact you can't say it's not . It's a Safety issue with these much bigger and stronger kids.. Some one could really get hurt .The problem is that iswhat has to happen for them to change ,is some one has to be seriously hurt for them to change...

Listen, there are going to be bigger kids that are the same age! There is a kid who is the same age as my kid and he is 7 or 8 inches shorter. They are both 2022, they are both 12. They are the same age!

To any parent who has a kid on a 2022 team that doesn't think teams fielding holbacks is an issue - I encourage you to go watch the Crabs 2020 elite team. I have seen the roster, know the players and their DOBs. This is not whining or moaning - this is stating a fact that their are multiple 16 year olds in their line up and a slew of 15 year olds that will turn 16 by the end of 2016. Putting 16 year olds on the field with 13 year olds is unsafe. Unless HOCO adopts a grade based program with an age cutoff or goes strictly age based - your 8th grade kid is going to be playing against someone who can drive themselves to the game. It's a sad state.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To any parent who has a kid on a 2022 team that doesn't think teams fielding holbacks is an issue - I encourage you to go watch the Crabs 2020 elite team. I have seen the roster, know the players and their DOBs. This is not whining or moaning - this is stating a fact that their are multiple 16 year olds in their line up and a slew of 15 year olds that will turn 16 by the end of 2016. Putting 16 year olds on the field with 13 year olds is unsafe. Unless HOCO adopts a grade based program with an age cutoff or goes strictly age based - your 8th grade kid is going to be playing against someone who can drive themselves to the game. It's a sad state.

Understood. Completely. But folks are coming on here accusing teams in 2022 of having holdbacks simply based on the fact that there are size differences at this age. With no facts to back up the accusations. The fact of the matter is that some 12 year olds have hit puberty and some have not. Some have had growth spurts and some have not. This means some teams have a handful of kids who are a lot bigger. It's just the way it is in middle school. Has nothing to do with holdig back. It has to do with development. Go look at any sixth grade middle school class. There is an incredibly wide range of development. It is unfair to tarnish a coach and team's reputation by saying they are cheating because kids on the team have grown. It's wrong, and it's cowardly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To any parent who has a kid on a 2022 team that doesn't think teams fielding holbacks is an issue - I encourage you to go watch the Crabs 2020 elite team. I have seen the roster, know the players and their DOBs. This is not whining or moaning - this is stating a fact that their are multiple 16 year olds in their line up and a slew of 15 year olds that will turn 16 by the end of 2016. Putting 16 year olds on the field with 13 year olds is unsafe. Unless HOCO adopts a grade based program with an age cutoff or goes strictly age based - your 8th grade kid is going to be playing against someone who can drive themselves to the game. It's a sad state.

I get it but just changing to age based won't stop a lot. Cheaters will still cheat. I know for a fact (because I personally know the kids involved) who have played in u9, u11. U13 and have been too old for the cutoff.

No one that i can remember has ever asked for my so 's birth certificate yet. He is 11 but what is stopping me (excepty own integrity) from letting him play in a u9 tourney this summer.

Even if birth certificates are required, unless they are checked with a picture ID EVERY game.....it still won't solve anything. I have a good friend who's son plays on a rival club. They have added 3 players and had 2 leave to go to other teams in the past couple weeks. I thought rosters had to be set? I don't think any of this was "cheating" as much as survival because they are a non playoff B team.

Nothing, except the integrity of the coaches, directors and families will keep teams from cheating regardless of the rules.

Well, one thing might.....you hit them in the pocket. Not an attorney but would be interested to know the liability if a 15 year old who has signed up to play in a u13 tourney because his grade based team is there. The 15 year old seriously hurts a 12 year old. I know we sign waivers but aren't they protecting the tourney? Couldn't a parent sure Club XYZ for playing a 15 year old in a u13 if a child was badly injured?

Trust me, I get why a parent would holdback a kid. I have 2 kids with summer birthdays and if I had to do it over again, I would with mine. However, both are starters on 2 different playoff high end teams and are both the 3rd youngest on their teams. So if you are good enough, you play up or at age. If i held them back tomorrow. I wouldn't want them to move down, it would hurt both of them lacrosse wise. Yeah, they would probably be the best or top 3 on their squads but so what. They will get better being the 3rd best middie on their current team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Trust me, I get why a parent would holdback a kid. I have 2 kids with summer birthdays and if I had to do it over again, I would with mine. However, both are starters on 2 different playoff high end teams and are both the 3rd youngest on their teams. So if you are good enough, you play up or at age. If i held them back tomorrow. I wouldn't want them to move down, it would hurt both of them lacrosse wise. Yeah, they would probably be the best or top 3 on their squads but so what. They will get better being the 3rd best middie on their current team

What you say is exactly what will be happening with many parents and players due to this grade based teams at Youth level.
If you had to do over again you would hold them back. I actually dont blame you. Why should your children be at a disadvantage age wise when many parents decide to hold their child back either at prefirst or 8th grade.
All parents are seeing the effects of other people holding their child back.Soon it will be normal to have many teams full of holdbacks. This ridiculous way to do Youth sports.

What's taking MPLL so long to release the playoff schedule.

Hopefully they are putting the playoff games on turf and the consolation games on the beat up grass.

Predictions for this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend?

Prediction: dbacks will lose and these boards will fill up with whiny dads claiming its because of hold backs.

D-Backs win both leagues!

91 is red hot!

Dbacks will beat team 91 ...team 91 has peaked Dbacks are just warming up.. Good luck

dbacks will lose both leagues to the hawks and come august there will be a bunch of ugly api helmets at hawks tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's taking MPLL so long to release the playoff schedule.

Hopefully they are putting the playoff games on turf and the consolation games on the beat up grass.

Hawks vs. RR 9:30 Upper grass
API vs. Team 91 12:30 Upper grass

Koopers?

91 peaked early .D-Backs is now hitting their stride . D-Backs will beat 91

Hawks are a good team but the DBacks don't have any holdback's so they won't want the DBacks players ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are a good team but the DBacks don't have any holdback's so they won't want the DBacks players ...

I get, there is always a troll trying to diminish what kids have worked so hard to become. In this case really good players for their grade/age. I think everyone who reads this board gets that part. But in this case of trying it against the 2022 Hawks is just quite silly. Hogan himself is requiring any player who plays in his tournament to register through PASSPORT in order to play in his tournaments - doesn't seem like that is something he would want to do if he had a bunch of older holdback on his younger teams. But hey, troll on. Hope doing so makes your day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are a good team but the DBacks don't have any holdback's so they won't want the DBacks players ...

Why don't you stop making anonymous comments and introduce yourself? That way, the teams you are accusing can defend themselves. It's easy to say these things anonymously. And cowardly.

Coming from some one who posted anonymously

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are a good team but the DBacks don't have any holdback's so they won't want the DBacks players ...

I doubt many of the dbacks players could even make the hawks team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are a good team but the DBacks don't have any holdback's so they won't want the DBacks players ...

I doubt many of the dbacks players could even make the hawks team.

STOP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coming from some one who posted anonymously

But this person is not accusing other teams of cheating. There is this one dbacks person who keeps accusing other teams of having holdbacks. I would like that person to be accountable. I wonder if he/she would say these things to their friends on the other teams. I doubt it.

Dude, you really are not helping you sons life by lying to him and yourself. Trying to make yourself feel better about your sons team losing a few games. you have called every other team in the league cheaters! Seriously, speaks volumes with no proof . good luck in that helicopter you fly over your kids. Sad to see coming from a parent of a winning team and good coaches.( now that they kicked out all the daddies from the sideline).

What is going on in the MPLL Playoff schedule? Who does Koopers play this weekend? They are in 3rd place .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coming from some one who posted anonymously

But this person is not accusing other teams of cheating. There is this one dbacks person who keeps accusing other teams of having holdbacks. I would like that person to be accountable. I wonder if he/she would say these things to their friends on the other teams. I doubt it.

just go to one of their games he is probably the one standing on the sidelines going crazy yelling and screaming at everyone. oh wait everyone on the dback sideline acts like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are a good team but the DBacks don't have any holdback's so they won't want the DBacks players ...

I doubt many of the dbacks players could even make the hawks team.

We won every faceoff so, i think our faceoff guy makes the Hawks. Elite goalie who already made the Hawks before. Faster/ better middies who would nake the Hawks. Attack who are much better.....More like no Hawks could make The Dbacks which is why they never tryout

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are a good team but the DBacks don't have any holdback's so they won't want the DBacks players ...

I doubt many of the dbacks players could even make the hawks team.

We won every faceoff so, i think our faceoff guy makes the Hawks. Elite goalie who already made the Hawks before. Faster/ better middies who would nake the Hawks. Attack who are much better.....More like no Hawks could make The Dbacks which is why they never tryout

Don't comment.

We are friends with players on the Hawks,Crabs and team 91 . We know two parents of holdback's from those teams. Guys I just don't believe in holdback's .play your kids up he will get better don't cut corners doesn't do your kid any good . Nothing beats hard work but you are teaching your kid to cut corners to be better ... I know I played in college and know what it takes . Most of these kids won't play in college so teach your kid not to cut corners.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are friends with players on the Hawks,Crabs and team 91 . We know two parents of holdback's from those teams. Guys I just don't believe in holdback's .play your kids up he will get better don't cut corners doesn't do your kid any good . Nothing beats hard work but you are teaching your kid to cut corners to be better ... I know I played in college and know what it takes . Most of these kids won't play in college so teach your kid not to cut corners.

Once again, I will believe you when you identify yourself. Until then, you are spreading rumors on an anonymous website. Even worse if you "have friends" on these teams. Lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are friends with players on the Hawks,Crabs and team 91 . We know two parents of holdback's from those teams. Guys I just don't believe in holdback's .play your kids up he will get better don't cut corners doesn't do your kid any good . Nothing beats hard work but you are teaching your kid to cut corners to be better ... I know I played in college and know what it takes . Most of these kids won't play in college so teach your kid not to cut corners.

Once again, I will believe you when you identify yourself. Until then, you are spreading rumors on an anonymous website. Even worse if you "have friends" on these teams. Lol.

No one needs to identify themselves for it to be true that all these teams have prefirst kids on them. Don't think there are a lot of kids that have repeated grades at this point, but most kids that go to MIAA schools have gone to prefirst unless they were born from September - December. Everyone knows this to be true. Not sure why you are trying to deny it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are friends with players on the Hawks,Crabs and team 91 . We know two parents of holdback's from those teams. Guys I just don't believe in holdback's .play your kids up he will get better don't cut corners doesn't do your kid any good . Nothing beats hard work but you are teaching your kid to cut corners to be better ... I know I played in college and know what it takes . Most of these kids won't play in college so teach your kid not to cut corners.

Bud - I played sports in college as well, that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with your ridiculous post. Raise your son and stop worrying about others...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are friends with players on the Hawks,Crabs and team 91 . We know two parents of holdback's from those teams. Guys I just don't believe in holdback's .play your kids up he will get better don't cut corners doesn't do your kid any good . Nothing beats hard work but you are teaching your kid to cut corners to be better ... I know I played in college and know what it takes . Most of these kids won't play in college so teach your kid not to cut corners.

Or you could start by teaching your kid to use punctuation. Super handy, those commas and periods.

Wow. Haters much? I have seen their parents and they're fine. I wouldn't trash them all cuz of one silly troll on here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are friends with players on the Hawks,Crabs and team 91 . We know two parents of holdback's from those teams. Guys I just don't believe in holdback's .play your kids up he will get better don't cut corners doesn't do your kid any good . Nothing beats hard work but you are teaching your kid to cut corners to be better ... I know I played in college and know what it takes . Most of these kids won't play in college so teach your kid not to cut corners.

Once again, I will believe you when you identify yourself. Until then, you are spreading rumors on an anonymous website. Even worse if you "have friends" on these teams. Lol.

What is rumor he is spreading?? That a few teams have holdbacks?? No one doubts that? Unless you want to call them prefirst instead..No matter they were held back in Kindergarten and then put in a new made up grade before 1st called prefirst..

by Hold backs do you mean kids that have late birthdays-late Aug-Dec and their parents and EVERY TEACHER ON THE PLANET believe starting school the following year for boys is the right thing to do. When they are 4-5 years old .. Im sure those parents thought real hard about SPORTS when making those right choices for their child. unlike the poor choices your making in excuses for your child. Good luck with that when he becomes gets to high school or college playing against kids 3-4 years older then him year after year.

your comments again make you look stupid and your organization . By the way has a kid bigger than any player on any team at this level. Yet your on here stating that every other team is cheating that your son as faced this year. Comical all around.

and you want everyone to believe the Dbacks have -0- prefirst or holdbacks ..Their parents didn't make the right choice when they were entering school with late birthdays..
And to call all other teams cheaters for having kids with late birthdays is like calling their parents liers or deceitful.

Absolute joke my friend. Glad their is a forum for you to show your real colors . go to town because the parents that read this crap on here from all those other teams take exception to it, but will continue to raise there kid with the same class mates and friends in his grade since kindergarten , the bigger boys, smaller boys, more athletic boys, slower boys, and maybe even better looking boys.

agreed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are friends with players on the Hawks,Crabs and team 91 . We know two parents of holdback's from those teams. Guys I just don't believe in holdback's .play your kids up he will get better don't cut corners doesn't do your kid any good . Nothing beats hard work but you are teaching your kid to cut corners to be better ... I know I played in college and know what it takes . Most of these kids won't play in college so teach your kid not to cut corners.

We believe you are friends with layers and cops in North Carolina because those are some Fantastic Lies.

We will see you in the MPLL finals, if you make it. Then we shall see what your superior players can do. Good luck against 91 and their holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We will see you in the MPLL finals, if you make it. Then we shall see what your superior players can do. Good luck against 91 and their holdbacks.

STOP

So are you saying having hold backs is cheating? Sounds like that's what you're saying. I don't think it's cheating. Maybe others do. I do think is cheap, unsafe and a pussyfied way to try to get wins tho. A loss is a loss. Even to a 14 year old 6 th grader

Just go age base like all the other sports and this wouldn't be a debate .Then we will see what teams are good and what teams are average .

Good luck to everyone who has games this weekend (do you want to debate that or is that a lie ).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

by Hold backs do you mean kids that have late birthdays-late Aug-Dec and their parents and EVERY TEACHER ON THE PLANET believe starting school the following year for boys is the right thing to do. When they are 4-5 years old .. Im sure those parents thought real hard about SPORTS when making those right choices for their child. unlike the poor choices your making in excuses for your child. Good luck with that when he becomes gets to high school or college playing against kids 3-4 years older then him year after year.

your comments again make you look stupid and your organization . By the way has a kid bigger than any player on any team at this level. Yet your on here stating that every other team is cheating that your son as faced this year. Comical all around.

Dont know what you are talking about "Again" . First time I have posted on this.

But I can say this about 'Your Comments" . You sure have no idea what you are talking about, and you sure arent involved in any MIAA school. Anyone born before Sept 1 in Maryland and decides to not get in his class of 20whatever with all the rest of his peers is being held back..GOT IT . Doesnt matter if it is a made up grade called prefirst, its holding your child back a year.Every parent has a right to do what is right for their child. No one is debating your Strawman.

Now in public schools it is rarely done in Maryland but it is done. But in the MIAA schools it is done on a regular basis.
In my sons class over half the boys were held back. Do you understand that. OVER HALF HELD BACK. My other sons class was a little less than half.

These parents know the drill. The Private schools have been holding their kids back many many years.It was actually a well keep secret even in Maryland as it didnt effect anyone outside of private school. Private school Parents know the drill and dont want their child being the youngest. SO THEY HOLD THEM BACK..
And many are for SPORTS and ONLY SPORTS.. GOT THAT..Of course some arent.

You talk out your butt and havent a clue. I could easily give you some prominent sports people who have held their child back. And they weren't SUMMER children. So spare me you stupidity.

Let's clear something up about the holds back we are not talking about the ones from prefirst or little kids. We are talking about the ones from 5th, 6th' 7th and 8th graders that switch schools to get reclassify as they say it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's clear something up about the holds back we are not talking about the ones from prefirst or little kids. We are talking about the ones from 5th, 6th' 7th and 8th graders that switch schools to get reclassify as they say it.

It is semantics...Prefirst or holding back in 5,6,7,8 grade is still the same. It is keeping your kid back a year. If your child is born in August and doesnt move up from kindergarden to First grade ..and does a prefirst year instead..He is being HELDBACK a year. He may be only a month older than a September kid in grade before him, but he is 12 months older than kids born in August that moved up to First grade.

Call it what you want ''Holdback, Prefirst,etc"" it is basically the same. And Parents have a Right to do what they want..But Youth sports shouldnt bend age restritions due to this.

Update for Anyone interested in pausing this endless debate-

MPLL playoff final score alert:

API Diamonbacks won 6-3 vs team 91

Awful quiet....... this was for all those who said Dbacks was the team of the past.... Oh yah...and they're all 12 year olds.... I know it hurts just a little.

As for Team (89+2) maybe you should have played Rough Riders last week. It was a great warm up game!

Rough riders 6 Hawks 5
Dbacks 6-3 team 91

Finals St. Paul
Rough riders vs Dbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders 6 Hawks 5
Dbacks 6-3 team 91

Finals St. Paul
Rough riders vs Dbacks

What? The Hawks Lost? I'm shocked that the mighty Hawks lost. Another one goal game lost. Could it be the coaching.

#NOTCLUTCH

#DBWIN

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders 6 Hawks 5
Dbacks 6-3 team 91

Finals St. Paul
Rough riders vs Dbacks

What? The Hawks Lost? I'm shocked that the mighty Hawks lost. Another one goal game lost. Could it be the coaching.

#NOTCLUTCH

#DBWIN

DB is still the team to beat in both leagues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders 6 Hawks 5
Dbacks 6-3 team 91

Finals St. Paul
Rough riders vs Dbacks

What? The Hawks Lost? I'm shocked that the mighty Hawks lost. Another one goal game lost. Could it be the coaching.

#NOTCLUTCH

#DBWIN

But the Hawks work so much harder than everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders 6 Hawks 5
Dbacks 6-3 team 91

Finals St. Paul
Rough riders vs Dbacks

Crickets

What? The Hawks Lost? I'm shocked that the mighty Hawks lost. Another one goal game lost. Could it be the coaching.

#NOTCLUTCH

#DBWIN

But the Hawks work so much harder than everyone else.

your a goof and a D-Hole. Better hang all your kids 6 grade press clippings in your office because your sure won't have any at Spalding

Originally Posted by Anonymous

your a goof and a D-Hole. Better hang all your kids 6 grade press clippings in your office because your sure won't have any at Spalding

#someonesangry

#keepworking

I guess will see a lot of the Hawks player trying out for RoughRiders

Originally Posted by Anonymous

your a goof and a D-Hole. Better hang all your kids 6 grade press clippings in your office because your sure won't have any at Spalding

D-Hole? What?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess will see a lot of the Hawks player trying out for RoughRiders

Wouldn't be surprised with some of their parents. Daddies don't take losing very well.

Them or DB.

#bouncearound

Today's Match Ups?

Who won madlax/Bethesda game? Winner makes playoffs

And Crabs beat Roughriders in HOCO yesterday....bottom line is that there are a bunch of really good teams in Balt/Wash....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won madlax/Bethesda game? Winner makes playoffs

Madlax site says Madlax 2022 5th seed plays Crabs 4th seed on the 20th.

Predictions for playoffs? Madlax over Crbs; Hawks over Team 89+2 in championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for playoffs? Madlax over Crbs; Hawks over Team 89+2 in championship

89+2 Man that is funny, there is a reason I read this site way to much.

Depends on which teams show up. If all of the older players show I'd say Team 91 or Crabs have a chance.

Arden is the team to beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for playoffs? Madlax over Crbs; Hawks over Team 89+2 in championship

Thought Hawks got upset in the playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Depends on which teams show up. If all of the older players show I'd say Team 91 or Crabs have a chance.

Arden is the team to beat.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? What older kids are going to show up? The same kids that have been playing will be playing in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Depends on which teams show up. If all of the older players show I'd say Team 91 or Crabs have a chance.

Arden is the team to beat.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? What older kids are going to show up? The same kids that have been playing will be playing in the playoffs.

Seems like some games the older boys don't show. All depends on opponent.

You know. Don't be soooooo shocked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Depends on which teams show up. If all of the older players show I'd say Team 91 or Crabs have a chance.

Arden is the team to beat.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? What older kids are going to show up? The same kids that have been playing will be playing in the playoffs.

Seems like some games the older boys don't show. All depends on opponent.

You know. Don't be soooooo shocked.

That does not really even make sense and it sounds like conjecture on your point. If you are so convinced that is the issue that you are willing to taint 6 th grade boys on a forum, simply ask hoco for the roster for the team you are playing but would also expect you to apology to both the teams you are worried about openly. No kids could be added after the start nor can they be dual rostered and very easy to check to roster if you are willing to do that. Thinking you are blowing steam now to set up for complaining when your son's team gets beat.

Enough with holdback stuff--just create your own forum if you want to explore this topic ad nauseum.... I would prefer to focus on the prospects of Team 88 + 3 winning HOCO!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough with holdback stuff--just create your own forum if you want to explore this topic ad nauseum.... I would prefer to focus on the prospects of Team 88 + 3 winning HOCO!

They have a chance with all of the hold backs

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough with holdback stuff--just create your own forum if you want to explore this topic ad nauseum.... I would prefer to focus on the prospects of Team 88 + 3 winning HOCO!

They have a chance with all of the hold backs

Stop posting about it and challenge their roster - they will have no problem with you doing so and it may keep you quiet for a few years. Very easy to ask Hoco for a copy of their roster and it has the DOBs and grades of each boy. They are a team with nothing to hide.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

I agree many good MD teams. And many good on age players too. I do wonder about the NY teams coming down here to MD tournaments with their grade based teams. There starting school cut off age is DEC 1 if I remember right.

Might be hard for them to swallow getting beat by teams much older then them. Especially teams with kids that are heldback, which could be older by over a year or at least 4 to 8 months.
NY teams were usually a little younger than MD when NY went by grade and Md teams by the U?? . Wasn't that big a deal due to little difference in age and NY usually brought good teams down here. Will be interesting tho to see what they think.

If this board is any indication...It wont be a good reaction to playing against Holdbacks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

2 maybe 3 top teams at this age then everybody else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for playoffs? Madlax over Crbs; Hawks over Team 89+2 in championship

Thought Hawks got upset in the playoffs?

Hawks were upset by RR in MPLL playoffs

Great games for this weekend

DBacks. Vs. rough riders 9:30 St Paul's Championship

Hoco
Crabs vs mad lax capital Friday night 8pm. (winner plays Hawks )
Hawks vs 3pm game
DBacks vs Team 91 3pm game

Sunday 6pm championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Depends on which teams show up. If all of the older players show I'd say Team 91 or Crabs have a chance.

Arden is the team to beat.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? What older kids are going to show up? The same kids that have been playing will be playing in the playoffs.

Seems like some games the older boys don't show. All depends on opponent.

You know. Don't be soooooo shocked.

I guarantee you that Crabs has played with the exact same roster all spring and will have the same kids in playoffs. I have heard that Team 89+2 brought a few kids in from elsewhere(Texas) for the Crabs game. Didn't see those kids at the 3D game yesterday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough with holdback stuff--just create your own forum if you want to explore this topic ad nauseum.... I would prefer to focus on the prospects of Team 88 + 3 winning HOCO!

They have a chance with all of the hold backs

Stop posting about it and challenge their roster - they will have no problem with you doing so and it may keep you quiet for a few years. Very easy to ask Hoco for a copy of their roster and it has the DOBs and grades of each boy. They are a team with nothing to hide.

So would you like to discuss the "guest" players that were there for one game this spring?

Madlax over Crabs; Team 45 + 46 over AP; Madlax over Hawks; Team 88 +3 over Madlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough with holdback stuff--just create your own forum if you want to explore this topic ad nauseum.... I would prefer to focus on the prospects of Team 88 + 3 winning HOCO!

They have a chance with all of the hold backs

Stop posting about it and challenge their roster - they will have no problem with you doing so and it may keep you quiet for a few years. Very easy to ask Hoco for a copy of their roster and it has the DOBs and grades of each boy. They are a team with nothing to hide.

So would you like to discuss the "guest" players that were there for one game this spring?

Again, ask the question to Hoco and the other coach to determine if all your complaining is accurate. I am sure you have the details about what you claim happened but more than likely you are wrong. If you feel strongly a team did something wrong and it is not just wishful thinking or hearsay, than by all means ASK as this is ridiculous that you keep trying to chip away but have nothing substantive to bring forward. Sounds like sour grapes and making excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough with holdback stuff--just create your own forum if you want to explore this topic ad nauseum.... I would prefer to focus on the prospects of Team 88 + 3 winning HOCO!

They have a chance with all of the hold backs

Stop posting about it and challenge their roster - they will have no problem with you doing so and it may keep you quiet for a few years. Very easy to ask Hoco for a copy of their roster and it has the DOBs and grades of each boy. They are a team with nothing to hide.

So would you like to discuss the "guest" players that were there for one game this spring?

I guess the Team 44*2+3 parents don't want to discuss the "guest" players that came to town for one game a couple weeks back. Wonder if those kids were even on their HOCO rosters. I doubt it. Was nice to see the "guests" being introduced to their teammates and shaking their hands before the game.

101 - 10 will rise to the top with or without guest players!

Team 4,000,000-3,999,909 will do whatever it takes to win. If they don't, then they will have the rules changed

Crabs>Roughriders>Hawks> over past week.....

Team 273 divided by 3 will not be a factor--look for winner to come out of Madlax/crabs/Hawks group...

AMEN

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs>Roughriders>Hawks> over past week.....

Crabs aren't in MPLL. You're mixing up leagues.

Roghriders beat Hawks on Saturday in MPLL....Crabs beat Roughriders on Sunday in HOCO....

Great Competition this year with good teams and coaches. Crabs, Api, Ninetyone, Hawks, Madlax and even RR. Hard to go undefeated with all good teams. Most of these teams have now played each other at least once.

Crabs have not faced API or Hawks this year yet.

Hawks are teetering. I bet it got real tense after they lost this weekend. How many more practices got added this week? How much film did you watch? Who is getting benched? Panic and overreaction always set in there when they lose

Stop troll. None of this is happening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 273 divided by 3 will not be a factor--look for winner to come out of Madlax/crabs/Hawks group...

DB will win. Stop naming 3 teams and leaving them out. Dream land

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop troll. None of this is happening.

I'm sure some are in panic mode. Told you they added some good players but not great. None are real difference makers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 273 divided by 3 will not be a factor--look for winner to come out of Madlax/crabs/Hawks group...

DB will win. Stop naming 3 teams and leaving them out. Dream land

Hawks? Get real

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are teetering. I bet it got real tense after they lost this weekend. How many more practices got added this week? How much film did you watch? Who is getting benched? Panic and overreaction always set in there when they lose

Wow... whose kid got cut or didn't make this team? I've always found this group to be a nice bunch. Go away troll. Focus on your own team. Everybody loses sometimes. They are 12 after all.

DB only team in a position to win both leagues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are teetering. I bet it got real tense after they lost this weekend. How many more practices got added this week? How much film did you watch? Who is getting benched? Panic and overreaction always set in there when they lose

why would anyone post this about a youth sports team? I know nothing about the teams discussed but to write these things anonymously is chicken little and says more about you than the Hawks.

2022A winner should play 2022AA winner to determine the best of the best. Some teams in the A division could compete with those in AA. Some have already beat those in AA in previous years and would do the same this year. Just wait til the summer tournaments come and some of the proclaimed elite clubs will be humbled.

What team's parents choose to wear a lanyard with their son's picture, name and number around their neck at a u12 lacrosse game? Who does that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022A winner should play 2022AA winner to determine the best of the best. Some teams in the A division could compete with those in AA. Some have already beat those in AA in previous years and would do the same this year. Just wait til the summer tournaments come and some of the proclaimed elite clubs will be humbled.

For example? Since you obviously have something in mind? Remember... teams change from year to year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DB only team in a position to win both leagues.

Good for you! I hope if someone else were in this position you'd be able to be happy for their KIDS too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What team's parents choose to wear a lanyard with their son's picture, name and number around their neck at a u12 lacrosse game? Who does that?

Did this happen? I must know. What team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022A winner should play 2022AA winner to determine the best of the best. Some teams in the A division could compete with those in AA. Some have already beat those in AA in previous years and would do the same this year. Just wait til the summer tournaments come and some of the proclaimed elite clubs will be humbled.

You can't be serious. Name me one A team that could come close to beating any of the 5 playoff teams in AA. Club Blue is in first play in A and they went winless in NPYLL last year. And three of their best players left and went to Crabs. What a ridiculous statement.

Keep in mind there was a merger of 2 leagues this year into HOCO. Coaches took a best guess approach to place their teams in the proper division. Some guessed right and others guessed wrong. Summer tournaments will iron everything out.

That is a farce that Madlax gets a Crack at the top playoffs after finishing 5th. Cabell will do his usual stall ball to find a way to win that playing game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a farce that Madlax gets a Crack at the top playoffs after finishing 5th. Cabell will do his usual stall ball to find a way to win that playing game.

And people laugh at me when I say people are out to get Madlax. And sense when is stall ball a bad thing if you get the Win?

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

Lime green

Lime green...
Take some time to look over the standings...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

2 maybe 3 top teams at this age then everybody else.

Top 2 are the 2 undefeated teams both from Anne Arundel county. 2022 Hawks and Dbacks dominate, winner or finalists in all championships last summer, both in finals at Young guns and on top again this year. Summer will be no different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? Only one team in 2022A of HOCO was invited to Young Guns and that is Lax Factory. Any of the 2022AA teams would run them off the field. Most of them have in the past.

Go lime green dad...
Your lanyard is sweet...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

What A team is playing AA at young guns? I don't see any registered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022A winner should play 2022AA winner to determine the best of the best. Some teams in the A division could compete with those in AA. Some have already beat those in AA in previous years and would do the same this year. Just wait til the summer tournaments come and some of the proclaimed elite clubs will be humbled.

That is absolutely hysterical for you to put into words... Make an A all-star team and they wouldn't come within 8 goals of top 5 AA teams. Top A teams would be winless

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go lime green dad...
Your lanyard is sweet...

Who is lime green?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? Only one team in 2022A of HOCO was invited to Young Guns and that is Lax Factory. Any of the 2022AA teams would run them off the field. Most of them have in the past.

Just an aside... Young guns is not about the best. Lineup and brackets are carefully controlled by RM and the invite process is very political.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

What A team is playing AA at young guns? I don't see any registered.

Lax Factory is in Young Guns AA and in A in HOCO. Crabs beat them 10-0 last year in a tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

Lax factory really...... top 5 AA beat beat them by 10 goals end of story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

Lax factory really...... top 5 AA beat beat them by 10 goals end of story.

Same would have been said about Hawks over Rough Riders last week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? Only one team in 2022A of HOCO was invited to Young Guns and that is Lax Factory. Any of the 2022AA teams would run them off the field. Most of them have in the past.

Just an aside... Young guns is not about the best. Lineup and brackets are carefully controlled by RM and the invite process is very political.

You're right. What a terrible group of teams invited. Sorry you weren't.

So what if RM puts Crabs in best spot to make playoffs. He would be stupid not to. It's his tournament.

Young Gunz is one of the best summer events...no surprise given that Crabs is such a wonderful club.

Young Gunz is great for all teams invited. Teams should be in full stride by then and at top strength. lets hope there is no rain this year.

Young Gunz is very much about the best from all year. Its very clear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? Only one team in 2022A of HOCO was invited to Young Guns and that is Lax Factory. Any of the 2022AA teams would run them off the field. Most of them have in the past.

Just an aside... Young guns is not about the best. Lineup and brackets are carefully controlled by RM and the invite process is very political.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Young Gunz is very much about the best from all year. Its very clear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA chest pounding lax dads look over the A standings.
Let's see if any come back to the forum when am A team beats their precious during a summer tournament. See you at young gunz.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? Only one team in 2022A of HOCO was invited to Young Guns and that is Lax Factory. Any of the 2022AA teams would run them off the field. Most of them have in the past.

Just an aside... Young guns is not about the best. Lineup and brackets are carefully controlled by RM and the invite process is very political.

I'm sure there are some politics involved concerning who is or is not invited. There are clearly some noteworthy teams missing. And there are a couple that are included that might not be as strong as the ones left out. That's always the case. But the majority of invitees are impressive 2022 teams. You can't say that's not true.

The great 8 (10)tournament this summer. The best of the best New [lacrosse] and Maryland teams playing each other will be better than young guns.

Watch out for the A teams moving into your beloved AA division.
Make sure to bring your matching coffee tumbler mugs.
We all get a kick out of watching obsessed parents.
Dad's wearing matching shorts.
People watching better than the beach.
Don't forget your lanyards of precious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch out for the A teams moving into your beloved AA division.
Make sure to bring your matching coffee tumbler mugs.
We all get a kick out of watching obsessed parents.
Dad's wearing matching shorts.
People watching better than the beach.
Don't forget your lanyards of precious.

Cant wait for the A teams that want to push to the next level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

2 maybe 3 top teams at this age then everybody else.

Top 2 are the 2 undefeated teams both from Anne Arundel county. 2022 Hawks and Dbacks dominate, winner or finalists in all championships last summer, both in finals at Young guns and on top again this year. Summer will be no different.

Hawks winner or finalist in all summer tournaments last year? I guess OC tournament and South River didn't count?

Selective memory

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

2 maybe 3 top teams at this age then everybody else.

Top 2 are the 2 undefeated teams both from Anne Arundel county. 2022 Hawks and Dbacks dominate, winner or finalists in all championships last summer, both in finals at Young guns and on top again this year. Summer will be no different.

Hawks winner or finalist in all summer tournaments last year? I guess OC tournament and South River didn't count?

Selective memory

Not to mention they lost to Roughriders in MPLL semis last weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

2 maybe 3 top teams at this age then everybody else.

Top 2 are the 2 undefeated teams both from Anne Arundel county. 2022 Hawks and Dbacks dominate, winner or finalists in all championships last summer, both in finals at Young guns and on top again this year. Summer will be no different.

Hawks winner or finalist in all summer tournaments last year? I guess OC tournament and South River didn't count?

Selective memory

Not to mention they lost to Roughriders in MPLL semis last weekend.

All teams lose a game at some point. I don't have a dog in this fight, but why the hate towards this one team? You seem eager to point out their couple of loses over the past year. Looking over the standings, wasn't that RR loss their only one all season in two leagues? No one wins them all. 12-year-olds, man. Not machines. Lighten up. It's all good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

2 maybe 3 top teams at this age then everybody else.

Top 2 are the 2 undefeated teams both from Anne Arundel county. 2022 Hawks and Dbacks dominate, winner or finalists in all championships last summer, both in finals at Young guns and on top again this year. Summer will be no different.

Hawks winner or finalist in all summer tournaments last year? I guess OC tournament and South River didn't count?

Selective memory

Not to mention they lost to Roughriders in MPLL semis last weekend.

All teams lose a game at some point. I don't have a dog in this fight, but why the hate towards this one team? You seem eager to point out their couple of loses over the past year. Looking over the standings, wasn't that RR loss their only one all season in two leagues? No one wins them all. 12-year-olds, man. Not machines. Lighten up. It's all good.

I agree, but don't tell me, tell them. They are the ones who panic over a loss....any loss...They achedule film aessions if they tie a team while playjng hftime of a Navy game.

Everybody knows each down here, including the coaches. Somebody (s) is going to be the scapegoat. Go to their game vs 91 Saturday and playoffs sunday....if they lose this weekend, you might see a whole bunch of new kids or some getting benched.

This is what happens when you tell all your cronoes since September that your team won't lose a game all year.

I don't have a kid on the Hawks 2022 team......but I love their SWAG!

Angry much bro? Laughing!!

All teams lose a game at some point. I don't have a dog in this fight, but why the hate towards this one team? You seem eager to point out their couple of loses over the past year. Looking over the standings, wasn't that RR loss their only one all season in two leagues? No one wins them all. 12-year-olds, man. Not machines. Lighten up. It's all good. [/quote]

I agree, but don't tell me, tell them. They are the ones who panic over a loss....any loss...They achedule film aessions if they tie a team while playjng hftime of a Navy game.

Everybody knows each down here, including the coaches. Somebody (s) is going to be the scapegoat. Go to their game vs 91 Saturday and playoffs sunday....if they lose this weekend, you might see a whole bunch of new kids or some getting benched.

This is what happens when you tell all your cronoes since September that your team won't lose a game all year. [/quote]

Dude, you sound like sour grapes. Just fyi... as teams get more competitive, kids do get cut. And, if there is a loss, someone isn't going to start, and someone is going to get less playing time. That's the nature of club ball. What do you expect? Club teams are trying to put together the best team they can. It's not rec! Stop making coaches who are doing their job, trying to win and get kids to improve, out to be the bad guy. Maybe help your kid improve. Make him be accountable. If your kid was cut or didn't make it on a certain team, that's too bad. It stinks. But I'm sure there's a place for him. You need to get over it, and stop bad mouthing. It's probably trickling down to your kid and affecting his attitude toward other kids and the sport.

Swag? Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude, you sound like sour grapes. Just fyi... as teams get more competitive, kids do get cut. And, if there is a loss, someone isn't going to start, and someone is going to get less playing time. That's the nature of club ball. What do you expect? Club teams are trying to put together the best team they can. It's not rec! Stop making coaches who are doing their job, trying to win and get kids to improve, out to be the bad guy. Maybe help your kid improve. Make him be accountable. If your kid was cut or didn't make it on a certain team, that's too bad. It stinks. But I'm sure there's a place for him. You need to get over it, and stop bad mouthing. It's probably trickling down to your kid and affecting his attitude toward other kids and the sport.

I agree . This is 2022 Club not 2030 rec teams. I am the assistant coach of a top elite 2022 Club team and am Very disappointed in my team.I have a HUGE problem with these 11 and 12 year olds and their shortfalls.

I have seen to many unforced errors by them. Concentration is lacking sometimes with their passing and catching. No excuse for this.
And if I have seen 1.. 12 year old I have seen 10.. 12 year olds not get up for a big game. Frankly it is totally unacceptable in my world.
When will these young men start taking the game seriously as I do? Why dont they like watching films ad nauseam like me??

I have already informed just about entire team that how do they expect to go D1 with their cavalier attitude. Do they think with this attitude they will ever get a shout out from Ty??

What really boils me up is a lost. I see no remorse or agony in their face, They seem to move on with no problem and want to know which way to the playground.

At this point I am not sure what to do. My screaming, yelling, threatening doesnt seem to be working!! Maybe cut a few players from the team while the rest of their buddies look on! Make them accountable for their fellow friends getting cut..Maybe that will wake them up to the real world of Elite competitive 6th grade lacrosse.

So funny reading this same guys comments about the hawks ..whats the deal man? Not a Hawk but know a lot of those people and coaches and you must really have it out for them. where was all this before you played them and got beat. These teams play all the time against each other .. All of the top teams have been beat this year at least once. Looking from the results from 2 leagues hawks only lost once to a good coached RR team that they played 3 times in 1 week. Hawks in my option are the best team we have faced all year and we played everyone.
Backs are a very good team along with Crabs,Madlax,Ninetyone .. Hating is really disturbing and I'm sure the coaches from your team feel the same way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't have a kid on the Hawks 2022 team......but I love their SWAG!

Angry much bro? Laughing!!

Dbacks on here again hating on other teams!!! Geese.Lighten up and Swag on!

blahhhhhhhahahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude, you sound like sour grapes. Just fyi... as teams get more competitive, kids do get cut. And, if there is a loss, someone isn't going to start, and someone is going to get less playing time. That's the nature of club ball. What do you expect? Club teams are trying to put together the best team they can. It's not rec! Stop making coaches who are doing their job, trying to win and get kids to improve, out to be the bad guy. Maybe help your kid improve. Make him be accountable. If your kid was cut or didn't make it on a certain team, that's too bad. It stinks. But I'm sure there's a place for him. You need to get over it, and stop bad mouthing. It's probably trickling down to your kid and affecting his attitude toward other kids and the sport.

I agree . This is 2022 Club not 2030 rec teams. I am the assistant coach of a top elite 2022 Club team and am Very disappointed in my team.I have a HUGE problem with these 11 and 12 year olds and their shortfalls.

I have seen to many unforced errors by them. Concentration is lacking sometimes with their passing and catching. No excuse for this.
And if I have seen 1.. 12 year old I have seen 10.. 12 year olds not get up for a big game. Frankly it is totally unacceptable in my world.
When will these young men start taking the game seriously as I do? Why dont they like watching films ad nauseam like me??

I have already informed just about entire team that how do they expect to go D1 with their cavalier attitude. Do they think with this attitude they will ever get a shout out from Ty??

What really boils me up is a lost. I see no remorse or agony in their face, They seem to move on with no problem and want to know which way to the playground.

At this point I am not sure what to do. My screaming, yelling, threatening doesnt seem to be working!! Maybe cut a few players from the team while the rest of their buddies look on! Make them accountable for their fellow friends getting cut..Maybe that will wake them up to the real world of Elite competitive 6th grade lacrosse.

Blahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So funny reading this same guys comments about the hawks ..whats the deal man? Not a Hawk but know a lot of those people and coaches and you must really have it out for them. where was all this before you played them and got beat. These teams play all the time against each other .. All of the top teams have been beat this year at least once. Looking from the results from 2 leagues hawks only lost once to a good coached RR team that they played 3 times in 1 week. Hawks in my option are the best team we have faced all year and we played everyone.
Backs are a very good team along with Crabs,Madlax,Ninetyone .. Hating is really disturbing and I'm sure the coaches from your team feel the same way.

Great post. Agree. So many great teams, including RR that has some fine talent, too. Great group. Wish folks would keep it positive. Would be a lot more fun for all. No body is getting rich playing this game. How about forging some lasting relationships.

You mad bro? You mad?

My little Johnny is the next Paul Rabil and that mean mean coach from Hawks doesn't see it. Really what does he know anyway? When Johnny plays Casey Powell Lacrosse on his PlayStation he scores at will and face dodges like a Thompson.

Village Idiot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So funny reading this same guys comments about the hawks ..whats the deal man? Not a Hawk but know a lot of those people and coaches and you must really have it out for them. where was all this before you played them and got beat. These teams play all the time against each other .. All of the top teams have been beat this year at least once. Looking from the results from 2 leagues hawks only lost once to a good coached RR team that they played 3 times in 1 week. Hawks in my option are the best team we have faced all year and we played everyone.
Backs are a very good team along with Crabs,Madlax,Ninetyone .. Hating is really disturbing and I'm sure the coaches from your team feel the same way.

Great post. Agree. So many great teams, including RR that has some fine talent, too. Great group. Wish folks would keep it positive. Would be a lot more fun for all. No body is getting rich playing this game. How about forging some lasting relationships.

I like the post above too and agree completely. However, the cry baby on here must really have it out for them and I don't expect that to change anonymously. or the tool that bashes ninetyone coaches or anyone else hating on 6th graders or their coaches who are obviously better qualified to be coaching than these daddys

I like the post above too and agree completely. However, the cry baby on here must really have it out for them and I don't expect that to change anonymously. or the tool that bashes ninetyone coaches or anyone else hating on 6th graders or their coaches who are obviously better qualified to be coaching than these daddys [/quote]

So let's all make a pact to ignore this negative troublemaker. Maybe he or she will go away. Don't feed the beast. Seriously, maybe we could actually be a group - the 2022s that set a positive example for our kids. And maybe the coaches wouldn't be stressed if the parents weren't such crazy lunatics, breathing down their necks all the time. Just a thought...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

2 maybe 3 top teams at this age then everybody else.

Top 2 are the 2 undefeated teams both from Anne Arundel county. 2022 Hawks and Dbacks dominate, winner or finalists in all championships last summer, both in finals at Young guns and on top again this year. Summer will be no different.

Hawks winner or finalist in all summer tournaments last year? I guess OC tournament and South River didn't count?

Selective memory

Selective reading much? It says Hawks and Dbacks. Dbacks won Summer Exposure and were finalists at Beach Lax. Hawks won Young Gunz and Dbacks were finalists to them after beating Crabs and Cannons.

But you go on with your Hawks hate...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I like the post above too and agree completely. However, the cry baby on here must really have it out for them and I don't expect that to change anonymously. or the tool that bashes ninetyone coaches or anyone else hating on 6th graders or their coaches who are obviously better qualified to be coaching than these daddys

So let's all make a pact to ignore this negative troublemaker. Maybe he or she will go away. Don't feed the beast. Seriously, maybe we could actually be a group - the 2022s that set a positive example for our kids. And maybe the coaches wouldn't be stressed if the parents weren't such crazy lunatics, breathing down their necks all the time. Just a thought... [/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't have a kid on the Hawks 2022 team......but I love their SWAG!

Angry much bro? Laughing!!

Dbacks on here again hating on other teams!!! Geese.Lighten up and Swag on!

Boo Yah! Hey you can't have you're fan out in here

So let's all make a pact to ignore this negative troublemaker. Maybe he or she will go away. Don't feed the beast. Seriously, maybe we could actually be a group - the 2022s that set a positive example for our kids. And maybe the coaches wouldn't be stressed if the parents weren't such crazy lunatics, breathing down their necks all the time. Just a thought... [/quote]

Division A teams playing up in OC beach lax tournament.
Watch out. Your team might get surprised.
Can't wait to see those sweet neck lanyards!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bottom line is 2022 teams are packed with good teams . It's a very tuff league this year so all teams will be good for summer tournaments . We should support all Maryland teams for summer tournaments . The talent is good and we should be happy because the kids only get better with good talent .

2 maybe 3 top teams at this age then everybody else.

Top 2 are the 2 undefeated teams both from Anne Arundel county. 2022 Hawks and Dbacks dominate, winner or finalists in all championships last summer, both in finals at Young guns and on top again this year. Summer will be no different.

Hawks winner or finalist in all summer tournaments last year? I guess OC tournament and South River didn't count?

Selective memory

Not to mention they lost to Roughriders in MPLL semis last weekend.

MPLL playoffs of 4 teams wound up having the #3 play the #4 team for championship. Parity at 2022 is one of the best things about this age group. No team can be taken for granted. Madlax is the #5 seed in the HoCo tourney and they really have the talent to win it all.

Spoken like a proud team lime green dad!
Be sure to wear your matching team shorts and tumbler mug!

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

Nope I got the score from my friend that is crab dad.

Say what crabs lost? Thought they where 5-0 and heading to the ship. Overrated!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what crabs lost? Thought they where 5-0 and heading to the ship. Overrated!!!

5-0 against weaker teams, 0-2 against Elite teams. Never faces Dbacks or Hawks either. The league was set up nice for them.

Congrats to the Final 4 teams that will be playing for the Championship on Sunday.

I know that it takes a lot of hard work and dedication to reach this point. Every game is a challenge no matter if you are playing against the top or bottom of this league.

Good luck to 4 players that I had the pleasure to coach. 3 play for the Hawks and 1 plays for Madlax. I won't post their names because they are children but I know their work ethic and it is second to none. Great Job Boys

Good luck to all and cherish the moment.

Play like Champions

Rich Figueiras
"Daddy Cannons Coach"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

Why did he get thrown out?

If winning by 4 why was he tossed?

Please tell me this is a lie that a parent was thrown out of a 6th grade la rosse game.5cPVkv

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

I am sure the dad was in the wrong but do we know why he was mad and what he was yelling about when he got thrown out?

As a crab parent. I sat near some Hawks parents and/or coaches and what looked like the whole team. Really decent group of people. Talked with a defender and a goalie. Class kids who seemed to enjoy watching their competition play.
Good luck to yourr

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a crab parent. I sat near some Hawks parents and/or coaches and what looked like the whole team. Really decent group of people. Talked with a defender and a goalie. Class kids who seemed to enjoy watching their competition play.
Good luck to yourr

What a great post. This is the point -- if people get to know the competition, they will see, most of these families are decent people - win, lose, or tie. It's unfair to stereotype an entire team because of a coach losing his temper a time or two or a crazy parent on the sideline. Let's face it, there's more than one on every team. But for the most part, they are all decent kids whose parents are trying to bring them up right.

No excuse for a parent getting thrown out of a 6th grade game.
Loser.
Go lime green.
You guys rock sweet neck lanyards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No excuse for a parent getting thrown out of a 6th grade game.
Loser.
Go lime green.
You guys rock sweet neck lanyards.

If a Ref is not controlling the game and kids are getting beat up and hurt. I would say that is a excuse for a parent to step up and say something. I am not talking about a couple pushes or hard checks. But games can go down hill really fast. And when a Ref is not on top of it kids will get hurt. So this is what I would call a good excuse forgetting kick out of a 6th grade game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If a Ref is not controlling the game and kids are getting beat up and hurt. I would say that is a excuse for a parent to step up and say something. I am not talking about a couple pushes or hard checks. But games can go down hill really fast. And when a Ref is not on top of it kids will get hurt. So this is what I would call a good excuse forgetting kick out of a 6th grade game.

Wrong, idiot dad. Nobody should talk to a lax official except the head coaches. If they are making bad calls, not keeping the kids in check, etc., that is not your place to yell at them. There is no "good excuse" for any parent to talk to an official. Grow up.

There is a Madlax 2022 dad who gets kicked out of games all the time. Everyone knows he is a complete nightmare.

That's the coaches job - to speak up. If you don't trust your coach, maybe you should find another.

DiamondBacks over RoughRiders 7-3
It was a exciting game . Both teams did a great job.

DiamondBacks St. Paul's - Champs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If a Ref is not controlling the game and kids are getting beat up and hurt. I would say that is a excuse for a parent to step up and say something. I am not talking about a couple pushes or hard checks. But games can go down hill really fast. And when a Ref is not on top of it kids will get hurt. So this is what I would call a good excuse forgetting kick out of a 6th grade game.

Wrong, idiot dad. Nobody should talk to a lax official except the head coaches. If they are making bad calls, not keeping the kids in check, etc., that is not your place to yell at them. There is no "good excuse" for any parent to talk to an official. Grow up.

There is a Madlax 2022 dad who gets kicked out of games all the time. Everyone knows he is a complete nightmare.

Is he gets thrown out so much that explains that he has enough time for that sweet perm he rocks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If a Ref is not controlling the game and kids are getting beat up and hurt. I would say that is a excuse for a parent to step up and say something. I am not talking about a couple pushes or hard checks. But games can go down hill really fast. And when a Ref is not on top of it kids will get hurt. So this is what I would call a good excuse forgetting kick out of a 6th grade game.

Wrong, idiot dad. Nobody should talk to a lax official except the head coaches. If they are making bad calls, not keeping the kids in check, etc., that is not your place to yell at them. There is no "good excuse" for any parent to talk to an official. Grow up.

There is a Madlax 2022 dad who gets kicked out of games all the time. Everyone knows he is a complete nightmare.

Is he gets thrown out so much that explains that he has enough time for that sweet perm he rocks.

what a tool.. year after year yelling at his own kid..

Big Games tomorrow..

Guys with sweet perms are creepy.

Who says that only coaches should talk to refs. How about holding officials more accountable. The majority of officiating at the youth level is pathetic. Why can't lacrosse find better referees, who know the game, who are licensed (like soccer), who will enforce the rules fairly and attemtp to ensure player safety?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who says that only coaches should talk to refs. How about holding officials more accountable. The majority of officiating at the youth level is pathetic. Why can't lacrosse find better referees, who know the game, who are licensed (like soccer), who will enforce the rules fairly and attemtp to ensure player safety?

Lacrosse as come very far with Referees and are on pace to license all refs. Many already are and they are the ones that have a rookie with them in most games. the growth of the game is happening at high rates and expecting HIGH LEVEL refs at your sons 6 th grade game is a bit ridiculous. The RULE BOOK also clearly states that the COACHES are the only ones that can talk to refs . There is sideline rules just like game rules. Clearly written in in English for all Dads and Moms to see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who says that only coaches should talk to refs. How about holding officials more accountable. The majority of officiating at the youth level is pathetic. Why can't lacrosse find better referees, who know the game, who are licensed (like soccer), who will enforce the rules fairly and attemtp to ensure player safety?

Lacrosse as come very far with Referees and are on pace to license all refs. Many already are and they are the ones that have a rookie with them in most games. the growth of the game is happening at high rates and expecting HIGH LEVEL refs at your sons 6 th grade game is a bit ridiculous. The RULE BOOK also clearly states that the COACHES are the only ones that can talk to refs . There is sideline rules just like game rules. Clearly written in in English for all Dads and Moms to see.

Also, anybody ever notice the loudest and most argumentative dads are the ones who never played? I can't tell you how many times I've seen a kid come off the field and tell some overweight beer belly know it all to stop embarrassing him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who says that only coaches should talk to refs. How about holding officials more accountable. The majority of officiating at the youth level is pathetic. Why can't lacrosse find better referees, who know the game, who are licensed (like soccer), who will enforce the rules fairly and attemtp to ensure player safety?

Lacrosse as come very far with Referees and are on pace to license all refs. Many already are and they are the ones that have a rookie with them in most games. the growth of the game is happening at high rates and expecting HIGH LEVEL refs at your sons 6 th grade game is a bit ridiculous. The RULE BOOK also clearly states that the COACHES are the only ones that can talk to refs . There is sideline rules just like game rules. Clearly written in in English for all Dads and Moms to see.

Now the Hoco rule book is going to be followed? How about when it was related to safety, sportsmanship, high school players, non normal progression, dual rostered players etc.? Seems a bit hypocritical to pick and choose which rules to follow.

Please - while the growth of the game is terrific and we love it - most officiating is a joke. Much can be learned and applied from US soccer. The refs should be required to know the rules of the game, licensing should be mandated, there should be an evaluation system and the unqialified/failing ones replaced with capable ones.

How many championships did sweet perm dad win?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please - while the growth of the game is terrific and we love it - most officiating is a joke. Much can be learned and applied from US soccer. The refs should be required to know the rules of the game, licensing should be mandated, there should be an evaluation system and the unqialified/failing ones replaced with capable ones.

You are an idiot. Lacrosse has all of those things. You are probably someone that never played and think you know but dont understand advantage / disadvantage and how it influences calling the game. The same guy who yells for a ward all game long bUT doesn'treally know what it is.

Good luck to Hawks vs 91 in finals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many championships did sweet perm dad win?

He wins the title for best hair and worst attitude no doubt.

Sweet perm dad looks like the Donald.
Rock it with pride Mr. Madlax.
Nothing but juice and berries.

91 over Dbacks 7-5 great game on by both teams

Hawks vs 91 in the finals
Today at 6pm

Hawks over Madlax in Double OT

Hawks HoCo Champs

Were they wearing their sweet neck lanyards?

Relax jerky. I played college ball. Just came from a game that the referee couldn't pass a 3rd grade phys ed workout and he was making up rules. Hopefully the development of the game and the financial means will facilate better quality of officiating.

Madlax?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks over Madlax in Double OT

Hawks HoCo Champs

What? Thought finals was Hawks v Team 91?

MPLL champs Diamondbacks
HOCo champs Hawks

congrats to both.

Sorry
Hawks beat Madlax 10-4 or 10-5

Hawks beat team 91 in double OT

Hawks HoCo Champs
Diamondbacks St. Paul's Champs

Good luck to all the teams with Summer Touranments

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry
Hawks beat Madlax 10-4 or 10-5

Hawks beat team 91 in double OT

Hawks HoCo Champs
Diamondbacks St. Paul's Champs

Good luck to all the teams with Summer Touranments

Parity. Any 8 of the top HoCo team could have won on any given day. 2022 level is filled with talent. 5 of the MPLL teams are in that group. The summer will be fun.

Great games today...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Were they wearing their sweet neck lanyards?

HoCo is business time. No adults allowed on the field without the sweet neck lanyards. Lanyard enforcement is right up there with roster enforcement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

I am sure the dad was in the wrong but do we know why he was mad and what he was yelling about when he got thrown out?

In defense of the Madlax dad, he was justifiably upset about a ref at midfield making an endline out of bounds call when the other ref was 10 yards away from where the ball went out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

I am sure the dad was in the wrong but do we know why he was mad and what he was yelling about when he got thrown out?

In defense of the Madlax dad, he was justifiably upset about a ref at midfield making an endline out of bounds call when the other ref was 10 yards away from where the ball went out.

up by 4 goals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry
Hawks beat Madlax 10-4 or 10-5

Hawks beat team 91 in double OT

Hawks HoCo Champs
Diamondbacks St. Paul's Champs

Good luck to all the teams with Summer Touranments

Parity. Any 8 of the top HoCo team could have won on any given day. 2022 level is filled with talent. 5 of the MPLL teams are in that group. The summer will be fun.

Parity? Really maybe with the top 3-4 teams not 8.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

I am sure the dad was in the wrong but do we know why he was mad and what he was yelling about when he got thrown out?

In defense of the Madlax dad, he was justifiably upset about a ref at midfield making an endline out of bounds call when the other ref was 10 yards away from where the ball went out.

up by 4 goals

Every team has a loud mouth Dad. I would even say every team has a least one loud mouth dad and one loud mouth Mom. But we can bash Madlax for a week or two just make sure you point out the other bad mom and dads from the other clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

I am sure the dad was in the wrong but do we know why he was mad and what he was yelling about when he got thrown out?

In defense of the Madlax dad, he was justifiably upset about a ref at midfield making an endline out of bounds call when the other ref was 10 yards away from where the ball went out.

He was probably just upset because it was a bit humid Friday night and his sweet perm was getting unruly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

I am sure the dad was in the wrong but do we know why he was mad and what he was yelling about when he got thrown out?

In defense of the Madlax dad, he was justifiably upset about a ref at midfield making an endline out of bounds call when the other ref was 10 yards away from where the ball went out.

There is no "justification" for a parent yelling at an official. All you are doing is embarrassing yourself, your kid, and your club. The club will remember that at the next tryout.

Not if the kid is a good player they wont.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 11-7 crabs

It was 13-9. You must be the madlax dad that got thrown out by the refs. Classy as usual madlax.

13-9 final score. Madlax dad thrown off field. When they were up by 4..

I am sure the dad was in the wrong but do we know why he was mad and what he was yelling about when he got thrown out?

In defense of the Madlax dad, he was justifiably upset about a ref at midfield making an endline out of bounds call when the other ref was 10 yards away from where the ball went out.

There is no "justification" for a parent yelling at an official. All you are doing is embarrassing yourself, your kid, and your club. The club will remember that at the next tryout.

Depends on players ability.. If so so player,Reason to Remember to get rid of player at tryouts..If decent ok player, reason to remember to look long and hard at....If Good player, Vague memory of some parent yelling??? ...Great player or 6 ft Holdback, No relocation of anything except players ability!!

^^^BINGO^^^

Originally Posted by Anonymous

^^^BINGO^^^

The better the player the more leeway the kids gets with crazy dad. But i've seen very good players have their options limited by the actions of mom and/or dad. Parents don't yell at refs or try and coach from the sideline. Not your place, ever.

2022a lax factory lost in semifinals to club blue. Do they really think they can beat a AA team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Someone not happy about a man that is trying to make things safer in youth lacrosse? At least he is willing to do something about it and come out publicly to say it is not okay the way the little guys are being taught the game or allowed to play. Not a ninety one 2022 parent but awfully glad someone has guts enough to try to protect kids and teach them when they are young. His team losing is a different topic than his efforts to make lacrosse safer - stop stirring the pot. Try to stay on one topic or another.

So 91 dad, will the safe keeper of youth lacrosse post a video of his defenseman taking a cheap shot at the Hawks attack man as an example of what should be coached out of lacrosse? The kid took about an 8 yard run and lowered his shoulder and head to hit the much smaller Hawks player in the head. The kid was penalized so you can't say it didn't happen. Did MM coach up his player on the sidelines? Did he read him the riot act? Nope. Just sent the kid back out when his penalty was up. Or maybe it should only be addressed when his kid gets hit.? Please, do tell 91 dad.

Wasn't there but of course Team 101-10's coach won't do a thing. Probably gave the kid a game ball. Dude is a draining sore of a human

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that score right? 91 lost to Hawks by 6? Millon will probably have them kicked out of the league. Assume his kid got both goals? Surprised he didn't get more since you aren't allowed to touch him after he told on us after our game last week.

Someone not happy about a man that is trying to make things safer in youth lacrosse? At least he is willing to do something about it and come out publicly to say it is not okay the way the little guys are being taught the game or allowed to play. Not a ninety one 2022 parent but awfully glad someone has guts enough to try to protect kids and teach them when they are young. His team losing is a different topic than his efforts to make lacrosse safer - stop stirring the pot. Try to stay on one topic or another.

So 91 dad, will the safe keeper of youth lacrosse post a video of his defenseman taking a cheap shot at the Hawks attack man as an example of what should be coached out of lacrosse? The kid took about an 8 yard run and lowered his shoulder and head to hit the much smaller Hawks player in the head. The kid was penalized so you can't say it didn't happen. Did MM coach up his player on the sidelines? Did he read him the riot act? Nope. Just sent the kid back out when his penalty was up. Or maybe it should only be addressed when his kid gets hit.? Please, do tell 91 dad.

Not affiliated with Team 91 so can't speak to the incident above but will say that player from RR that hit his kid is a menace. He is consistently dangerous. Saw a video of him from this weekend slashing another player 4 times consecutively, finally flag thrown when he cut down the other kid with a blatant slash to back of the legs. Should've been ejected by new rules at St Pauls but just a penalty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not affiliated with Team 91 so can't speak to the incident above but will say that player from RR that hit his kid is a menace. He is consistently dangerous. Saw a video of him from this weekend slashing another player 4 times consecutively, finally flag thrown when he cut down the other kid with a blatant slash to back of the legs. Should've been ejected by new rules at St Pauls but just a penalty.

If you're going to anonymously malign a twelve year old, at least be honest. You say blatant slashes, flag thrown, cut down... All false. No flag thrown. Flag was already down on another player and a play on situation stopped play when the ball went down. Checks were to the gloved hand on the stick. Hard checks? Yes. Slashes? Not in the opinion of either official on the field.

In the RR - Cannons game on Sunday, the RR goalie almost had his head taken off. Coaches tended to the kid, he got up, player served his 3 minutes, and the game went on without menacing glances, coaches parading around and making a spectacle and threats to walk off the field.

Is this where we are in 2016; isolating video and posting on social media so DB parents can gather online to talk trash about a 12 year old kid? Get a life.

Now we know why so many kids reclass.....they can't play with the bigger boys.

Leave the kid alone...move your kids to 2023 if they can't handle it. And please take the little kid on one of the teams who screams "ouch" everytime he is touched. Embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not affiliated with Team 91 so can't speak to the incident above but will say that player from RR that hit his kid is a menace. He is consistently dangerous. Saw a video of him from this weekend slashing another player 4 times consecutively, finally flag thrown when he cut down the other kid with a blatant slash to back of the legs. Should've been ejected by new rules at St Pauls but just a penalty.

If you're going to anonymously malign a twelve year old, at least be honest. You say blatant slashes, flag thrown, cut down... All false. No flag thrown. Flag was already down on another player and a play on situation stopped play when the ball went down. Checks were to the gloved hand on the stick. Hard checks? Yes. Slashes? Not in the opinion of either official on the field.

In the RR - Cannons game on Sunday, the RR goalie almost had his head taken off. Coaches tended to the kid, he got up, player served his 3 minutes, and the game went on without menacing glances, coaches parading around and making a spectacle and threats to walk off the field.

Is this where we are in 2016; isolating video and posting on social media so DB parents can gather online to talk trash about a 12 year old kid? Get a life.

^^^^^^yes it is..and your right here doing it too. Isolated video? you obviously haven't seen much from this year. I would love to get a count of penalty time from that one player this year. 8 mins just from playing our games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not affiliated with Team 91 so can't speak to the incident above but will say that player from RR that hit his kid is a menace. He is consistently dangerous. Saw a video of him from this weekend slashing another player 4 times consecutively, finally flag thrown when he cut down the other kid with a blatant slash to back of the legs. Should've been ejected by new rules at St Pauls but just a penalty.

If you're going to anonymously malign a twelve year old, at least be honest. You say blatant slashes, flag thrown, cut down... All false. No flag thrown. Flag was already down on another player and a play on situation stopped play when the ball went down. Checks were to the gloved hand on the stick. Hard checks? Yes. Slashes? Not in the opinion of either official on the field.

In the RR - Cannons game on Sunday, the RR goalie almost had his head taken off. Coaches tended to the kid, he got up, player served his 3 minutes, and the game went on without menacing glances, coaches parading around and making a spectacle and threats to walk off the field.

Is this where we are in 2016; isolating video and posting on social media so DB parents can gather online to talk trash about a 12 year old kid? Get a life.

You sound like a real winner and making a little tough guy in your image.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now we know why so many kids reclass.....they can't play with the bigger boys.

Leave the kid alone...move your kids to 2023 if they can't handle it. And please take the little kid on one of the teams who screams "ouch" everytime he is touched. Embarrassing.

You might be "anonymous," but everyone knows who is writing this.

All the penalties will cause teams to lose games. Eventually kids will leave the team. Just ask the cannons about that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now we know why so many kids reclass.....they can't play with the bigger boys.

Leave the kid alone...move your kids to 2023 if they can't handle it. And please take the little kid on one of the teams who screams "ouch" everytime he is touched. Embarrassing.

So what if a kid says ouch sometimes? They're twelve. It's probably just a reaction. I'm sure he'll stop eventually or doesn't even intend to say it. Why do you care? Does he break down and cry, disrupt the game? Every time he is touched -- really? If that is the case, I doubt he'd be on the field. Is your kid on his team? If so, you are a nasty SOB. Sounds to me like you have another issue at play here. What the [lacrosse] is wrong with people? Posting video of other people's kids, shaming them for reacting when they're hurt. You're all a bunch of desperate fools. If you have confidence in yourself and your own kid, you don't have to come on here and rip apart another kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now we know why so many kids reclass.....they can't play with the bigger boys.

Leave the kid alone...move your kids to 2023 if they can't handle it. And please take the little kid on one of the teams who screams "ouch" everytime he is touched. Embarrassing.

So what if a kid says ouch sometimes? They're twelve. It's probably just a reaction. I'm sure he'll stop eventually or doesn't even intend to say it. Why do you care? Does he break down and cry, disrupt the game? Every time he is touched -- really? If that is the case, I doubt he'd be on the field. Is your kid on his team? If so, you are a nasty SOB. Sounds to me like you have another issue at play here. What the [lacrosse] is wrong with people? Posting video of other people's kids, shaming them for reacting when they're hurt. You're all a bunch of desperate fools. If you have confidence in yourself and your own kid, you don't have to come on here and rip apart another kid.

Sorry Mom... maybe you should get him thicker pads or goalie gear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now we know why so many kids reclass.....they can't play with the bigger boys.

Leave the kid alone...move your kids to 2023 if they can't handle it. And please take the little kid on one of the teams who screams "ouch" everytime he is touched. Embarrassing.

So what if a kid says ouch sometimes? They're twelve. It's probably just a reaction. I'm sure he'll stop eventually or doesn't even intend to say it. Why do you care? Does he break down and cry, disrupt the game? Every time he is touched -- really? If that is the case, I doubt he'd be on the field. Is your kid on his team? If so, you are a nasty SOB. Sounds to me like you have another issue at play here. What the [lacrosse] is wrong with people? Posting video of other people's kids, shaming them for reacting when they're hurt. You're all a bunch of desperate fools. If you have confidence in yourself and your own kid, you don't have to come on here and rip apart another kid.

Sorry Mom... maybe you should get him thicker pads or goalie gear.

Kids need to toughen up. Saying 'ouch' won't get the kid a call no matter how bad the slash to the leg, cross check to the back, or blow to the neck/head. These are part of the game unless the kid goes down hurt (or just flops like a soccer player).swa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now we know why so many kids reclass.....they can't play with the bigger boys.

Leave the kid alone...move your kids to 2023 if they can't handle it. And please take the little kid on one of the teams who screams "ouch" everytime he is touched. Embarrassing.

So what if a kid says ouch sometimes? They're twelve. It's probably just a reaction. I'm sure he'll stop eventually or doesn't even intend to say it. Why do you care? Does he break down and cry, disrupt the game? Every time he is touched -- really? If that is the case, I doubt he'd be on the field. Is your kid on his team? If so, you are a nasty SOB. Sounds to me like you have another issue at play here. What the [lacrosse] is wrong with people? Posting video of other people's kids, shaming them for reacting when they're hurt. You're all a bunch of desperate fools. If you have confidence in yourself and your own kid, you don't have to come on here and rip apart another kid.

Sorry Mom... maybe you should get him thicker pads or goalie gear.

Not a mom. Not related to these kids being called out. Just tired of the awful parents this sport seems to attract.

I think that kid needs to take up ballet or cheer....Might be a future Caitlyn thing going on there...

Can we please get back to the things that matter such as sweet perm dad and styling lanyards with precious.

Common knowledge that Mark Millon runs around showing videos of kids who have had penalties against his kid or other kids on his team...The guy has pretty much alienated the entire lacrosse community with his stupid antics

Beware of his tournaments....Just sayin...If you have a penalty against his kid your child will be ejected from the tournament...Matter a fact rules state that you can't play defense on his kid....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Now we know why so many kids reclass.....they can't play with the bigger boys.

Leave the kid alone...move your kids to 2023 if they can't handle it. And please take the little kid on one of the teams who screams "ouch" everytime he is touched. Embarrassing.

So what if a kid says ouch sometimes? They're twelve. It's probably just a reaction. I'm sure he'll stop eventually or doesn't even intend to say it. Why do you care? Does he break down and cry, disrupt the game? Every time he is touched -- really? If that is the case, I doubt he'd be on the field. Is your kid on his team? If so, you are a nasty SOB. Sounds to me like you have another issue at play here. What the [lacrosse] is wrong with people? Posting video of other people's kids, shaming them for reacting when they're hurt. You're all a bunch of desperate fools. If you have confidence in yourself and your own kid, you don't have to come on here and rip apart another kid.

Sorry Mom... maybe you should get him thicker pads or goalie gear.

Ha ha. Like Moms really hang out on BOTC all day long. Riiiight.

This is the age classification of big kids versus little kids. Many officials will throw flags on the big guys if their shadow appears on a smaller player. Big kids learn to adjust their play and little guys get tougher in the process. Very rarely will a real injury occur. Hope everyone has a fun and safe summer season.
MM2

Are there holdbacks in the A division too?
Or is A considered on-age?

Obviously these big checks and hits are part of this great game! The illegal ones need to be dealt with immediately on the field and on the sideline from the coaches. Targeting and Intentional hits the player needs to be thrown out of game. These are rare occasions at any Lacrosse game at any level .Older, younger, bigger ,stronger and faster, thats why I played and my children play. Its certainly not to bash children or parents that held back my kids classmates at kindergarden or 1st grade. because it was the right move for their child. or even just folllowing guidelines set by the school system.Or to post videos of 12 years hurting my kids in a tough game. And demanding rules to be change or to get some love on FB.

calling out children on here specifically is just plan gross. everyone sees the video or bad check or hit during these games. Advocate for better safety rules and more experienced refs on the field, easy to do and welcomed by all Commissioners and US Lacrosse .

everyone also can see and knows whom you whacko parents are , the sideline tells all..your friends tell ALL..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now we know why so many kids reclass.....they can't play with the bigger boys.

Leave the kid alone...move your kids to 2023 if they can't handle it. And please take the little kid on one of the teams who screams "ouch" everytime he is touched. Embarrassing.

hopefully that player has learned that is not a good thing on a lax field. Coaches , teammates and Refs hate it..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Common knowledge that Mark Millon runs around showing videos of kids who have had penalties against his kid or other kids on his team...The guy has pretty much alienated the entire lacrosse community with his stupid antics

Beware of his tournaments....Just sayin...If you have a penalty against his kid your child will be ejected from the tournament...Matter a fact rules state that you can't play defense on his kid....

Hopefully you are kidding.. A grown man is showing video's of his own son getting checked??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Obviously these big checks and hits are part of this great game! The illegal ones need to be dealt with immediately on the field and on the sideline from the coaches. Targeting and Intentional hits the player needs to be thrown out of game. These are rare occasions at any Lacrosse game at any level .Older, younger, bigger ,stronger and faster, thats why I played and my children play. Its certainly not to bash children or parents that held back my kids classmates at kindergarden or 1st grade. because it was the right move for their child. or even just folllowing guidelines set by the school system.Or to post videos of 12 years hurting my kids in a tough game. And demanding rules to be change or to get some love on FB.

calling out children on here specifically is just plan gross. everyone sees the video or bad check or hit during these games. Advocate for better safety rules and more experienced refs on the field, easy to do and welcomed by all Commissioners and US Lacrosse .

everyone also can see and knows whom you whacko parents are , the sideline tells all..your friends tell ALL..

Agreed!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Common knowledge that Mark Millon runs around showing videos of kids who have had penalties against his kid or other kids on his team...The guy has pretty much alienated the entire lacrosse community with his stupid antics

Beware of his tournaments....Just sayin...If you have a penalty against his kid your child will be ejected from the tournament...Matter a fact rules state that you can't play defense on his kid....

Hopefully you are kidding.. A grown man is showing video's of his own son getting checked??

MM Twitter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Common knowledge that Mark Millon runs around showing videos of kids who have had penalties against his kid or other kids on his team...The guy has pretty much alienated the entire lacrosse community with his stupid antics

Beware of his tournaments....Just sayin...If you have a penalty against his kid your child will be ejected from the tournament...Matter a fact rules state that you can't play defense on his kid....

Watched hit on Twitter.

Looks like a cheap hit to me. Not even an effort to actually break down and play lacrosse. Kid knew he was bigger and probably older so he took a cheap shot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Common knowledge that Mark Millon runs around showing videos of kids who have had penalties against his kid or other kids on his team...The guy has pretty much alienated the entire lacrosse community with his stupid antics

Beware of his tournaments....Just sayin...If you have a penalty against his kid your child will be ejected from the tournament...Matter a fact rules state that you can't play defense on his kid....

Watched hit on Twitter.

Looks like a cheap hit to me. Not even an effort to actually break down and play lacrosse. Kid knew he was bigger and probably older so he took a cheap shot.

The kid was penalized for the hit. Was it necessary for MM to then post it on his twitter stating that this is what is wrong with youth lacrosse? Did he have the kid's families permission to post a video of their son his twitter? If he was so concerned about his son that was hit and possible concussion issues, why did he put him back in the game? You know the answer to that question.

Agree that it was a cheap hit but so was the hit his defenseman put on the Hawks kid. BS that he will put the video of his kid being hit and write an article about safety in lacrosse but does or says nothing to his own player when he does it. And surely he will not bring light to the hit as another example of what needs to be cleaned up. He should not throw stones from his glass house.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Common knowledge that Mark Millon runs around showing videos of kids who have had penalties against his kid or other kids on his team...The guy has pretty much alienated the entire lacrosse community with his stupid antics

Beware of his tournaments....Just sayin...If you have a penalty against his kid your child will be ejected from the tournament...Matter a fact rules state that you can't play defense on his kid....

Watched hit on Twitter.

Looks like a cheap hit to me. Not even an effort to actually break down and play lacrosse. Kid knew he was bigger and probably older so he took a cheap shot.

The kid was penalized for the hit. Was it necessary for MM to then post it on his twitter stating that this is what is wrong with youth lacrosse? Did he have the kid's families permission to post a video of their son his twitter? If he was so concerned about his son that was hit and possible concussion issues, why did he put him back in the game? You know the answer to that question.

Don't be ridiculous. The kid is not identifiable so no permission is needed. Minute the kids step on that field, they are open to being photographed and videoed. If he had made a great play instead of being a thug, the parents certainly would be okay with it. Sounds like you are on a personal crusade against MM so anything you say is suspect. The kid purposely took steps to hit and had done so in several games. Clearly the coaches, parents and refs do not do anything about kids like this so why not publish it? Maybe that will begin to get through to the refs, coaches and the daddy of this boy and others like him who do not play with any kind of skill and only try to crush other kids with size. As for sending him back in, if he cleared the concussion review, no need to keep him out. Your anger is ill placed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree that it was a cheap hit but so was the hit his defenseman put on the Hawks kid. BS that he will put the video of his kid being hit and write an article about safety in lacrosse but does or says nothing to his own player when he does it. And surely he will not bring light to the hit as another example of what needs to be cleaned up. He should not throw stones from his glass house.

You have no idea what was said or not said to his own player with the Hawks hit. You are only pissed because his Twitter account actually gets viewed and all the other dads accounts have 12 followers. If it can change the way these kids are being taught/allowed to play the game, then publish away. Again, you have no idea what is or is not being brought up so stop taking your envy out on an anonymous board, you have a problem, pick up the phone and call the man or better yet, contact him through the Twitter account you seem so familiar with. Other parents of non 91 kids are okay with someone pushing for rule changes in youth lacrosse - these are little kids- not high schoolers. Those who can actually play the game and do not rely on hitting are glad someone is stepping forward.

Daddy coach in club lax is what is wrong with youth lacrosse!
I'm sure precious will ride dad's wave until high school.

Anyone - let alone a coach - who posts a hit of another kid hitting his one son is pathetic.

It was a late, unnecessary IBC or whatever they flagged. Move on. It's nowhere near an ugly, vicious hit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone - let alone a coach - who posts a hit of another kid hitting his one son is pathetic.

It was a late, unnecessary IBC or whatever they flagged. Move on. It's nowhere near an ugly, vicious hit.

If a coach wants to make a point about something he needs to be aware of how it looks if he uses his son at the example. There are some good things about a dad coaching his son. But it goes wrong way more then it goes well. And perception is reality in this world. So a Dad coaching should be avoided at all costs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree that it was a cheap hit but so was the hit his defenseman put on the Hawks kid. BS that he will put the video of his kid being hit and write an article about safety in lacrosse but does or says nothing to his own player when he does it. And surely he will not bring light to the hit as another example of what needs to be cleaned up. He should not throw stones from his glass house.

You have no idea what was said or not said to his own player with the Hawks hit. You are only pissed because his Twitter account actually gets viewed and all the other dads accounts have 12 followers. If it can change the way these kids are being taught/allowed to play the game, then publish away. Again, you have no idea what is or is not being brought up so stop taking your envy out on an anonymous board, you have a problem, pick up the phone and call the man or better yet, contact him through the Twitter account you seem so familiar with. Other parents of non 91 kids are okay with someone pushing for rule changes in youth lacrosse - these are little kids- not high schoolers. Those who can actually play the game and do not rely on hitting are glad someone is stepping forward.

With all this talk about players unchecked, was curious with what tactic most would use in the situation of an unchecked aggressive player making cheap shots at your team over and over. If officials arent calling anything but a 1 minute releasable penalty if that and opposing coaches calling it a legal hit what are you to do??

Many years ago the solution would be retaliation with your biggest guy. Or have fastest shooter pluck him with a shot. Something along those lines. Basically show the brute that there are consequences. Now a days that is not a option it seems.

After a while most players and coaches get tired of watching your teammates getting flattened or possibly hurt without repercussions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree that it was a cheap hit but so was the hit his defenseman put on the Hawks kid. BS that he will put the video of his kid being hit and write an article about safety in lacrosse but does or says nothing to his own player when he does it. And surely he will not bring light to the hit as another example of what needs to be cleaned up. He should not throw stones from his glass house.

Unless you are the coach or parent of this kid that was hit, you need to butt out. It's not your responsibility to go on a personal crusade on behalf of this player. Or to use him to further demonize this coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone - let alone a coach - who posts a hit of another kid hitting his one son is pathetic.

It was a late, unnecessary IBC or whatever they flagged. Move on. It's nowhere near an ugly, vicious hit.

If a coach wants to make a point about something he needs to be aware of how it looks if he uses his son at the example. There are some good things about a dad coaching his son. But it goes wrong way more then it goes well. And perception is reality in this world. So a Dad coaching should be avoided at all costs.

And just as many would disagree with you - dad coaches are much more vested. We have had both and prefer the dad coach who cares about the team and is not just there to get their kid on another team for free. How does it look showing your own son getting pummeled by a player out of control- personally I can respect that and the call for tougher rules/consequences to coaches and kids who consistently play the game the right way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone - let alone a coach - who posts a hit of another kid hitting his one son is pathetic.

It was a late, unnecessary IBC or whatever they flagged. Move on. It's nowhere near an ugly, vicious hit.

If a coach wants to make a point about something he needs to be aware of how it looks if he uses his son at the example. There are some good things about a dad coaching his son. But it goes wrong way more then it goes well. And perception is reality in this world. So a Dad coaching should be avoided at all costs.

And just as many would disagree with you - dad coaches are much more vested. We have had both and prefer the dad coach who cares about the team and is not just there to get their kid on another team for free. How does it look showing your own son getting pummeled by a player out of control- personally I can respect that and the call for tougher rules/consequences to coaches and kids who consistently play the game the right way.

Well it really can be looked at many ways. But if it was not his son or if he was not a dad coaching his sons team. Then his view point would not look like it had more then one meaning. This is why Dads at these higher levels should not be coaching there sons team. [lacrosse] if dad wants to coach coach the team above or below your sons team.

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daddy coach in club lax is what is wrong with youth lacrosse!
I'm sure precious will ride dad's wave until high school.

Ride wave through High school and college!!

Better watch out for Hawks Madlax scored 13 on Crabs and then only scored 3 on Hawks. Their defense is outstanding. Good luck scoring double digits on them

You betcha Dad!

High school men's lacrosse players: 162,416
Division I programs: 61
NCAA-mandated maximum number of scholarships per program (over four years): 12.6
Average scholarships per program per year: 3.15
Average players per recruiting class: 12
Average estimated scholarship: 26 percent
Fully-funded programs: 31
Total scholarships available: 400
Players receiving some scholarship over four years: 1,450
Odds of any high school male landing any Division I scholarship: 0.89 percent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

The trouble with MM is that he is in love with himself. Needs to act like a normal coach and get off his self given high horse. He may know the game, but so do many many other coaches and they are not calling out other teams, yet I am sure they have cause but elect to act like an adult and not expose young kids. Everyone wants the game to be safer, but this is not the way to reach that goal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

You're right. Roughriders did handle it. Because of how MM acted(including what he said to the RR player on the field) they have pulled out of his tournament and HOCO had to change their schedule because they refuse to be on the field with him.

Considering Brian Reese is the HC of the 2022 RR team, this should tell you all you need to know about how people feel about MM. When the coach of the Bayhawks is refusing to play you, it should be a bit of a red flag.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

You're right. Roughriders did handle it. Because of how MM acted(including what he said to the RR player on the field) they have pulled out of his tournament and HOCO had to change their schedule because they refuse to be on the field with him.

Considering Brian Reese is the HC of the 2022 RR team, this should tell you all you need to know about how people feel about MM. When the coach of the Bayhawks is refusing to play you, it should be a bit of a red flag.

Same guy trying to make trouble and if you had any clue, you would know that is not what really happened but the story suits your objective so keep spinning. For once, it would be nice if what is supposed to be an independent party did not try to cause trouble just because they do not like someone questioning their weak rules or the fact that they do not follow their own rules. You are pretty vindictive and therefore this must be personal for you as we know none of the kids involved were yours and pretty certain you do not even have a 2022 or a boy in any club. Very transparent the source of the "I heard" and the " Hoco" changed their schedule. Just because BR is the head coach of the bayhawks does not make him the end all -are we going to start throwing out resumes of all these guys? Let's see an official letter or statement from Reese on the matter instead of you just guessing about things....thought so. .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

You're right. Roughriders did handle it. Because of how MM acted(including what he said to the RR player on the field) they have pulled out of his tournament and HOCO had to change their schedule because they refuse to be on the field with him.

Considering Brian Reese is the HC of the 2022 RR team, this should tell you all you need to know about how people feel about MM. When the coach of the Bayhawks is refusing to play you, it should be a bit of a red flag.

And what tournament would be "his" tournament as you are seriously misinformed.

After some great games this spring it will be fun to see how the teams fare on the summer circuit. Surely such stiff competition game in and game out will have all clubs ready for new competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

The trouble with MM is that he is in love with himself. Needs to act like a normal coach and get off his self given high horse. He may know the game, but so do many many other coaches and they are not calling out other teams, yet I am sure they have cause but elect to act like an adult and not expose young kids. Everyone wants the game to be safer, but this is not the way to reach that goal.

The majority of the club directors have self love issues and he is no different but if you have been around for any time at all, you know nothing changes so congrats to him for taking a stand and calling people out. Change takes effort and being uncomfortable. . The refs are apathetic to the behaviors, most coaches do not correct the behavior while some openly encourage it and Hoco ignores rules andgets defensive when questioned and none of those running the league ever played lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

You're right. Roughriders did handle it. Because of how MM acted(including what he said to the RR player on the field) they have pulled out of his tournament and HOCO had to change their schedule because they refuse to be on the field with him.

Considering Brian Reese is the HC of the 2022 RR team, this should tell you all you need to know about how people feel about MM. When the coach of the Bayhawks is refusing to play you, it should be a bit of a red flag.

Wow! If true that does say and tell you a lot. Pretty bad when you refuse to play his team again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

You're right. Roughriders did handle it. Because of how MM acted(including what he said to the RR player on the field) they have pulled out of his tournament and HOCO had to change their schedule because they refuse to be on the field with him.

Considering Brian Reese is the HC of the 2022 RR team, this should tell you all you need to know about how people feel about MM. When the coach of the Bayhawks is refusing to play you, it should be a bit of a red flag.

Same guy trying to make trouble and if you had any clue, you would know that is not what really happened but the story suits your objective so keep spinning. For once, it would be nice if what is supposed to be an independent party did not try to cause trouble just because they do not like someone questioning their weak rules or the fact that they do not follow their own rules. You are pretty vindictive and therefore this must be personal for you as we know none of the kids involved were yours and pretty certain you do not even have a 2022 or a boy in any club. Very transparent the source of the "I heard" and the " Hoco" changed their schedule. Just because BR is the head coach of the bayhawks does not make him the end all -are we going to start throwing out resumes of all these guys? Let's see an official letter or statement from Reese on the matter instead of you just guessing about things....thought so. .

I could copy and paste the email BR sent out to the club regarding this matter, but I'm sure he would not approve of doing that. You are obviously the one with no idea as to what has happened within RR. You are wrong that I don't have a 2022 kid and wrong that I am not involved in this situation. Whatever helps you gloss over the truth I guess.

So rumors spread that RR were disinvited from tourney and MM refused to play them in Hoco which sounded like major overreaction to some. So RR dad, it was the other way around and BR pulled out? If true, good to know. RR has a good team and shame to see their rep suffer. Hope all coaches on all teams will teach these young boys from mistakes made so the game stays tough but played safer at rhis younger level.

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On that day the MPLL was playing NCAA rules. I've watched the video several times in slow mo. The offensive player get's inside of his defender and then opens his right shoulder to take the shot. The midfielder drops down to slide and initiates contact with his left shoulder to the offensive player's right shoulder. The force of the hit turns the kid clockwise and he hits the ground. Clearly not in the back. Close to high. That and the fact it was a bigger kid vs smaller draws the flag as all youth refs are told to err on the side of caution. However under the NCAA rules there should not have even been a foul. The ref off screen threw the flag. The ref in the video who had a perfect view hesitates before reaching into his pocket before realizing the other ref bailed him out. He saw what I see - which is a legal hit under the rules but one we don't want in youth games. MPLL changed rules to make the hit illegal under 3 step rule. Still posting on social media and calling out the kid and coaches is a doucher move. Did MM know what rules he was playing under before the season?

Scary you have watched a 2022 video several times. Interesting you are questioning he refs and slinging mud at MM. You must be a joy to be around in the stands. Think,we will stick with the refs call as well as the coach opinion that knows a bit about lacrosse.

No one needs to sling mud at Millon. He does fine embarrassing himself. I can't believe that no one from Rough Riders has exposed him for what he said to one of their other players on the field that day. Everyone heard it according to those in attendance, but since I was not, I will not repeat it. Suffice it to say that it was inappropriate and alarming and the source is credible.

Sounds like you have a personal vendetta and are trying to stir up trouble. As you say, you were not there-were you out checking on another field/division? RR are big boys...they can handle it themselves without your involvement. Think MM is doing okay and certainly knows more about the game than someone who has not played and is stirring the pot.

You're right. Roughriders did handle it. Because of how MM acted(including what he said to the RR player on the field) they have pulled out of his tournament and HOCO had to change their schedule because they refuse to be on the field with him.

Considering Brian Reese is the HC of the 2022 RR team, this should tell you all you need to know about how people feel about MM. When the coach of the Bayhawks is refusing to play you, it should be a bit of a red flag.

Wow! If true that does say and tell you a lot. Pretty bad when you refuse to play his team again!

Keep on spinning...stories are getting bigger and bigger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So rumors spread that RR were disinvited from tourney and MM refused to play them in Hoco which sounded like major overreaction to some. So RR dad, it was the other way around and BR pulled out? If true, good to know. RR has a good team and shame to see their rep suffer. Hope all coaches on all teams will teach these young boys from mistakes made so the game stays tough but played safer at rhis younger level.

Agree. What tourney are they saying they pulled out of? It was RR who began the "crusade" against him and began to behave like toddlers. Alot of annoyed club owners simply because there is another option in town. Search MM on the internet...20 years of successful camps, clubs, training, partnerships etc. One of the few lacrosse players who were able to successfully create a business out of their passion and last more than a year or two. People keep going back to his clubs and camps as they are quality products. Project 9 anyone? Nobody has trained more young lacrosse players. So he is not a teddy bear of a personality but he clearly knows the sport and is working toward making it safer for kids when nobody else has ever tried and in doing so has become a bit of a target. Many families stand behind him for what he is trying to do and perhaps if people actually stopped and tried to work together for that objective instead of vilifying the messenger, the sport would be much more enjoyable for all kids. But instead Hoco and the refs dig their heels in because they do not like someone questioning the safety of the sport for young players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So rumors spread that RR were disinvited from tourney and MM refused to play them in Hoco which sounded like major overreaction to some. So RR dad, it was the other way around and BR pulled out? If true, good to know. RR has a good team and shame to see their rep suffer. Hope all coaches on all teams will teach these young boys from mistakes made so the game stays tough but played safer at rhis younger level.

Agree. What tourney are they saying they pulled out of? It was RR who began the "crusade" against him and began to behave like toddlers. Alot of annoyed club owners simply because there is another option in town. Search MM on the internet...20 years of successful camps, clubs, training, partnerships etc. One of the few lacrosse players who were able to successfully create a business out of their passion and last more than a year or two. People keep going back to his clubs and camps as they are quality products. Project 9 anyone? Nobody has trained more young lacrosse players. So he is not a teddy bear of a personality but he clearly knows the sport and is working toward making it safer for kids when nobody else has ever tried and in doing so has become a bit of a target. Many families stand behind him for what he is trying to do and perhaps if people actually stopped and tried to work together for that objective instead of vilifying the messenger, the sport would be much more enjoyable for all kids. But instead Hoco and the refs dig their heels in because they do not like someone questioning the safety of the sport for young players.

They pulled out of his Elite 10 (now Elite 8) tournament the weekend after Memorial Day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So rumors spread that RR were disinvited from tourney and MM refused to play them in Hoco which sounded like major overreaction to some. So RR dad, it was the other way around and BR pulled out? If true, good to know. RR has a good team and shame to see their rep suffer. Hope all coaches on all teams will teach these young boys from mistakes made so the game stays tough but played safer at rhis younger level.

Agree. What tourney are they saying they pulled out of? It was RR who began the "crusade" against him and began to behave like toddlers. Alot of annoyed club owners simply because there is another option in town. Search MM on the internet...20 years of successful camps, clubs, training, partnerships etc. One of the few lacrosse players who were able to successfully create a business out of their passion and last more than a year or two. People keep going back to his clubs and camps as they are quality products. Project 9 anyone? Nobody has trained more young lacrosse players. So he is not a teddy bear of a personality but he clearly knows the sport and is working toward making it safer for kids when nobody else has ever tried and in doing so has become a bit of a target. Many families stand behind him for what he is trying to do and perhaps if people actually stopped and tried to work together for that objective instead of vilifying the messenger, the sport would be much more enjoyable for all kids. But instead Hoco and the refs dig their heels in because they do not like someone questioning the safety of the sport for young players.

Hawks game. Hit by 91 every bit as dangerous as the one he posted on Twitter. Where is the blog? Where was the discipline? Is this youth lacrosse? Hypocrite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

not a fan of his club but the last remark is uncalled for. grow up

Teammates talk about wave riders.
Future coaches talk about wave riders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So rumors spread that RR were disinvited from tourney and MM refused to play them in Hoco which sounded like major overreaction to some. So RR dad, it was the other way around and BR pulled out? If true, good to know. RR has a good team and shame to see their rep suffer. Hope all coaches on all teams will teach these young boys from mistakes made so the game stays tough but played safer at rhis younger level.

Agree. What tourney are they saying they pulled out of? It was RR who began the "crusade" against him and began to behave like toddlers. Alot of annoyed club owners simply because there is another option in town. Search MM on the internet...20 years of successful camps, clubs, training, partnerships etc. One of the few lacrosse players who were able to successfully create a business out of their passion and last more than a year or two. People keep going back to his clubs and camps as they are quality products. Project 9 anyone? Nobody has trained more young lacrosse players. So he is not a teddy bear of a personality but he clearly knows the sport and is working toward making it safer for kids when nobody else has ever tried and in doing so has become a bit of a target. Many families stand behind him for what he is trying to do and perhaps if people actually stopped and tried to work together for that objective instead of vilifying the messenger, the sport would be much more enjoyable for all kids. But instead Hoco and the refs dig their heels in because they do not like someone questioning the safety of the sport for young players.

They pulled out of his Elite 10 (now Elite 8) tournament the weekend after Memorial Day.

Their choice. They wont be missed if they have parents like the guy who has been posting here. Sounds like he has an axe to grind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]
Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

not a fan of his club but the last remark is uncalled for. grow up[/quote

Just showing his true colors that it is a personal vendetta if he follows him that closely. Perhaps try outs last year are a sore point. Comments like that further undermine your credibility which was already in question. Point made that no value in your constant complaining about a single person. Moving on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

not a fan of his club but the last remark is uncalled for. grow up

Completely out of line!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

not a fan of his club but the last remark is uncalled for. grow up

Regardless, the fact is that MM is a douchb*g and has been for many years. Sure, everyone wants safety in youth lacrosse but to post stuff like this on social media, calling out an 11 or 12 year old kid is completely wrong. It is also out of line for MM to say anything to a kid on the other team during a game, but he did it anyway.
He has the mindset that he thinks he can do anything he wants, because he thinks of himself as Mr. Lacrosse. Well, he isn't, there are plenty of good coaches in club lacrosse and I have never seen one post something on social media calling out a kid and then to have the disrespect to say something to an 11 year old on the opposing team is way out of line. Good for th RR coaches to not put up with MM sh*t, there are plenty of other good tournaments besides his side show tournament. Don't forget, he is in this for the money and I believe some of his motives is to bring attention to himself, like he is the police authority on lacrosse safety. I am sure he would not like it if someone did this to a player on his team. He needs to get over himself. I have known MM for many years, and have never been impressed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

not a fan of his club but the last remark is uncalled for. grow up

Regardless, the fact is that MM is a douchb*g and has been for many years. Sure, everyone wants safety in youth lacrosse but to post stuff like this on social media, calling out an 11 or 12 year old kid is completely wrong. It is also out of line for MM to say anything to a kid on the other team during a game, but he did it anyway.
He has the mindset that he thinks he can do anything he wants, because he thinks of himself as Mr. Lacrosse. Well, he isn't, there are plenty of good coaches in club lacrosse and I have never seen one post something on social media calling out a kid and then to have the disrespect to say something to an 11 year old on the opposing team is way out of line. Good for th RR coaches to not put up with MM sh*t, there are plenty of other good tournaments besides his side show tournament. Don't forget, he is in this for the money and I believe some of his motives is to bring attention to himself, like he is the police authority on lacrosse safety. I am sure he would not like it if someone did this to a player on his team. He needs to get over himself. I have known MM for many years, and have never been impressed.

Mmmhmmm. You have shown your true colors by calling out someone's home lofe on social media so excuse us all if we do not care about your jealous opinion. The kid was not identified in social Media so stop making It out like he is a monster. As to the kid at the field, right or wrong coaches do this all the time especially when the ref or league ignores things. Let his parents deal with it if they think it is a problem as you are not the judge and jury of lacrosse as you would say.. He has his issues as you have shown you do too. He has done a lot more for youth lacrosse than Hoco/you. People will choose to either send their kids to him or not - families that have attended camps and are in his club understand he is not a personable guy but he has their support. Can you please begin to complain about something/somebody else as you are beginning to sound like a real whiner. Ps name calling also undermines your legitimacy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

not a fan of his club but the last remark is uncalled for. grow up

Completely out of line!

The guy definitely needs to grow up. His poor son and whatever team/organization he is with. Public opinion is turning against your crusade and you are helping MM every time you post!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

not a fan of his club but the last remark is uncalled for. grow up

Completely out of line!

The guy definitely needs to grow up. His poor son and whatever team/organization he is with. Public opinion is turning against your crusade and you are helping MM every time you post!

MM'
National Hall of Fame
MVP World Games,
2x MLL Offensive Player of the Year
MLL MVP
ALL PRO NLL 1st team
2x NCAA 1st All American
Umass Hall of fame
FiL Hall of Fame
MLL Hall of Fame
NLL Champion
25 years teaching lacrosse Instructional camps.
He might be a [lacrosse] bag but no one on this thread can touch that resume'...Period
If you don't like him personally then don't send your kid to him. Calling him out just to attack him personally on anonymous site discredits everything you type and no one on here agrees with those remarks. Completely out of line.
whats funny is no one knows who writes what and I bet someone writes [lacrosse] pretending to be some one else.. Its obvious and childless. All these big hits are concern for kids safety like they have been for 30 years. There is also a right way and wrong way about doing something . He might be a lot of things but he is someone that can change safety in the sport, just hopes he finds a better way then whats been happening. (used to be a huge fan until seeing him in person on the field coaching).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course You can not cut and paste it ....it does not exist. Plenty of RR families (and a few coaches) that would be happy to share but in checking your facts, there was no such email sent to the club.. Sensing a pattern..."I was not there, so can not repeat." " Would cut and paste but BR would not like it."

You are absolutely clueless. Obviously you have no connection to RR or you would have received the email that BR sent out explaining why we were no longer playing in MM's tournament. Initially RR was going to the Corrigan tournament in Richmond instead, but decided to limit the travel and play in Lax Splash. You are making yourself look stupid to anyone that actually knows what happened. You keep defending MM all you want. Maybe you can help out his home life too!

not a fan of his club but the last remark is uncalled for. grow up

Completely out of line!

The guy definitely needs to grow up. His poor son and whatever team/organization he is with. Public opinion is turning against your crusade and you are helping MM every time you post!

MM'
National Hall of Fame
MVP World Games,
2x MLL Offensive Player of the Year
MLL MVP
ALL PRO NLL 1st team
2x NCAA 1st All American
Umass Hall of fame
FiL Hall of Fame
MLL Hall of Fame
NLL Champion
25 years teaching lacrosse Instructional camps.
He might be a [lacrosse] bag but no one on this thread can touch that resume'...Period
If you don't like him personally then don't send your kid to him. Calling him out just to attack him personally on anonymous site discredits everything you type and no one on here agrees with those remarks. Completely out of line.
whats funny is no one knows who writes what and I bet someone writes [lacrosse] pretending to be some one else.. Its obvious and childless. All these big hits are concern for kids safety like they have been for 30 years. There is also a right way and wrong way about doing something . He might be a lot of things but he is someone that can change safety in the sport, just hopes he finds a better way then whats been happening. (used to be a huge fan until seeing him in person on the field coaching).

thanks for the stats ... FLUFFER!

Don't mention this man's son again. He's a kid. BOTC, I thought you didn't allow people to discuss specific kids? So wrong. I know this kid. He's a great kid. This is wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't mention this man's son again. He's a kid. BOTC, I thought you didn't allow people to discuss specific kids? So wrong. I know this kid. He's a great kid. This is wrong.

They don't allow people to disparage players. The fact that he was hit is not in anyway slighting him. Lighten up Francis. You're the only one making a big deal out of who it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't mention this man's son again. He's a kid. BOTC, I thought you didn't allow people to discuss specific kids? So wrong. I know this kid. He's a great kid. This is wrong.

They don't allow people to disparage players. The fact that he was hit is not in anyway slighting him. Lighten up Francis. You're the only one making a big deal out of who it is.

Lighten up Francis? Wow. That's a contemporary reference. And helps to make your point so convincing.

I have nothing to do with any of this or HoCo, but even I saw the twitter discussion and video posted of the hit. That puts it into public discussion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have nothing to do with any of this or HoCo, but even I saw the twitter discussion and video posted of the hit. That puts it into public discussion.

Would agree puts it into public discussion and an important one about player safety - not a character assassination that this guy is trying to turn this board into. Let's keep the discussion about safety or 2022 in general.

Being a distinguished player doesn't necessarily make anyone an outstanding coach. Plenty of great players are terrible coaches, and many great coaches were marginal players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Being a distinguished player doesn't necessarily make anyone an outstanding coach. Plenty of great players are terrible coaches, and many great coaches were marginal players.

Yes, very true but people have been sending their kids to him for more than 20 years and many continue to return to his camps, events and projects so he must be doing something right. His technical skills and teaching are top notch but not for everyone. Most kids can get past the gruffness but if not, then there are other good coaches who are more personable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Being a distinguished player doesn't necessarily make anyone an outstanding coach. Plenty of great players are terrible coaches, and many great coaches were marginal players.

Yes, very true but people have been sending their kids to him for more than 20 years and many continue to return to his camps, events and projects so he must be doing something right. His technical skills and teaching are top notch but not for everyone. Most kids can get past the gruffness but if not, then there are other good coaches who are more personable.

Gruffness is one thing, but when it morphs into personal insults, a coach has crossed the line when dealing with 12 yr olds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have nothing to do with any of this or HoCo, but even I saw the twitter discussion and video posted of the hit. That puts it into public discussion.

Would agree puts it into public discussion and an important one about player safety - not a character assassination that this guy is trying to turn this board into. Let's keep the discussion about safety or 2022 in general.

if MM posted a video of an incredible play would parents still be upset?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have nothing to do with any of this or HoCo, but even I saw the twitter discussion and video posted of the hit. That puts it into public discussion.

Would agree puts it into public discussion and an important one about player safety - not a character assassination that this guy is trying to turn this board into. Let's keep the discussion about safety or 2022 in general.

if MM posted a video of an incredible play would parents still be upset?

Of course not, then they would all claim the unidentifiable child was theirs. People are just pissed because the man knows his stuff, called out for change which is uncomfortable for many and also bothersome to others with huge egos who will now have to admit there may be a better way. MM has a larger following on social media than the average lacrosse parent or coach related to the sport. If more of those in the sport did this, there could be more emphasis on safety and teaching kids correctly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have nothing to do with any of this or HoCo, but even I saw the twitter discussion and video posted of the hit. That puts it into public discussion.

Would agree puts it into public discussion and an important one about player safety - not a character assassination that this guy is trying to turn this board into. Let's keep the discussion about safety or 2022 in general.

if MM posted a video of an incredible play would parents still be upset?

Of course not, then they would all claim the unidentifiable child was theirs. People are just pissed because the man knows his stuff, called out for change which is uncomfortable for many and also bothersome to others with huge egos who will now have to admit there may be a better way. MM has a larger following on social media than the average lacrosse parent or coach related to the sport. If more of those in the sport did this, there could be more emphasis on safety and teaching kids correctly.

Mark, we get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have nothing to do with any of this or HoCo, but even I saw the twitter discussion and video posted of the hit. That puts it into public discussion.

Would agree puts it into public discussion and an important one about player safety - not a character assassination that this guy is trying to turn this board into. Let's keep the discussion about safety or 2022 in general.

if MM posted a video of an incredible play would parents still be upset?

Of course not, then they would all claim the unidentifiable child was theirs. People are just pissed because the man knows his stuff, called out for change which is uncomfortable for many and also bothersome to others with huge egos who will now have to admit there may be a better way. MM has a larger following on social media than the average lacrosse parent or coach related to the sport. If more of those in the sport did this, there could be more emphasis on safety and teaching kids correctly.

Mark, we get it.

^^^^^haha^^^^

GO TERPS"

Where are the Crabs hiding this summer? 6 place finish in HOCo league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the Crabs hiding this summer? 6 place finish in HOCo league.

Hiding? They are at NLF Summer Showcase, Philly Big 4 Invitational and Young Guns. Guess you weren't invited to any of them. Have fun at Beach Lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the Crabs hiding this summer? 6 place finish in HOCo league.

Hiding? They are at NLF Summer Showcase, Philly Big 4 Invitational and Young Guns. Guess you weren't invited to any of them. Have fun at Beach Lax.

Ok, now that is funny!!

Is Crabs going to go to finish 6 also all the tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crabs going to go to finish 6 also all the tournaments?

I'm sorry. Are you from this country? We speak English here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crabs going to go to finish 6 also all the tournaments?

Need to classify like the Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crabs going to go to finish 6 also all the tournaments?

Need to classify like the Crabs.

You two go to the same school?

New [lacrosse] vs Maryland the best of the best. Good luck to all teams this weekend.

The Crabs 2022 team is at drivers ed

That is the spirit!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New [lacrosse] vs Maryland the best of the best. Good luck to all teams this weekend.

Any predictions? The NY teams that are coming are a good group, well coached and when they play each other it is a Pick'em. How do the MD Team stack up against each other. Should be a great tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Crabs 2022 team is at drivers ed

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
hahahahahahahahahahahahaa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the Crabs hiding this summer? 6 place finish in HOCo league.

the 2022 Crabs team of the past HOCO season is registered in Beachlax as 2023 Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New [lacrosse] vs Maryland the best of the best. Good luck to all teams this weekend.

Any predictions? The NY teams that are coming are a good group, well coached and when they play each other it is a Pick'em. How do the MD Team stack up against each other. Should be a great tournament.

Sadly, I predict that Sunday and next week will be very uncomfortable for many kids, parent, coaches....This is stacked and there could be teams that end up 0-4....1-3...really outstanding teams too. It would be nice if everyone recognizes the quality and realizes it is ok. I am not holding my breath though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New [lacrosse] vs Maryland the best of the best. Good luck to all teams this weekend.

Any predictions? The NY teams that are coming are a good group, well coached and when they play each other it is a Pick'em. How do the MD Team stack up against each other. Should be a great tournament.

Sadly, I predict that Sunday and next week will be very uncomfortable for many kids, parent, coaches....This is stacked and there could be teams that end up 0-4....1-3...really outstanding teams too. It would be nice if everyone recognizes the quality and realizes it is ok. I am not holding my breath though

All teams strong so far today. What the exception of one outlier game all tight games won by one or two goals. No one dominating. Parity for sure and great competition experience for these boys against very good teams

91 MD, Hawks, and Bethesda looking good. I guess Maryland is too much to handle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 MD, Hawks, and Bethesda looking good. I guess Maryland is too much to handle.

That's a stupid thing to say. And I'm a MD parent. All close games, everyone getting along. Don't be a jerk.

Express the only team to go 3-0 at Elite 8. They avenged an early season loss to Bethesda. Hawks, Smash, 88+3 MD, and Bethesda all went 2-1. I don't see how you can keep any of the 2-1 teams out of the playoffs - one team will be very disappointed and undeservedly kept out since tie-breaker rules were unpublished.
Igloo, United, and Diamondbacks did not make playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 MD, Hawks, and Bethesda looking good. I guess Maryland is too much to handle.

That's a stupid thing to say. And I'm a MD parent. All close games, everyone getting along. Don't be a jerk.

Agreed, records may not show it but look at the scores. Bethesda and Dbacks lost to Express by one goal. Bethesda beat Dbacks by 2 goals. 91 beat Smash by one goal. Smash beat Hawks by 2. Only blow outs were against Igloo and Untied beat handedly by 91 and Dbacks. Other igloo and untied games were closer. Why can't people see how close these games were today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express the only team to go 3-0 at Elite 8. They avenged an early season loss to Bethesda. Hawks, Smash, 88+3 MD, and Bethesda all went 2-1. I don't see how you can keep any of the 2-1 teams out of the playoffs - one team will be very disappointed and undeservedly kept out since tie-breaker rules were unpublished.
Igloo, United, and Diamondbacks did not make playoffs.

[/[quote=Anonymous]Express the only team to go 3-0 at Elite 8. They avenged an early season loss to Bethesda. Hawks, Smash, 88+3 MD, and Bethesda all went 2-1. I don't see how you can keep any of the 2-1 teams out of the playoffs - one team will be very disappointed and undeservedly kept out since tie-breaker rules were unpublished.
Igloo, United, and Diamondbacks did not make playoffs.

Express won their games by one goal against Dbacks at very end and in OT over Bethesda. Easily could've gone the other way. When the team that is 1-2 in your bracket loses to Express by one, BLC by 2 and wins 11-5 over United, I would say whoever squeaked into playoffs will have their hands full. [lacrosse] 5 v 6 seed will be another great matchup whoever it is. Good job to all. Unfortunately there are only 4 spots in playoffs. But tie breaker rules weren't published for a reason and we all know why

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express the only team to go 3-0 at Elite 8. They avenged an early season loss to Bethesda. Hawks, Smash, 88+3 MD, and Bethesda all went 2-1. I don't see how you can keep any of the 2-1 teams out of the playoffs - one team will be very disappointed and undeservedly kept out since tie-breaker rules were unpublished.
Igloo, United, and Diamondbacks did not make playoffs.

[/[quote=Anonymous]Express the only team to go 3-0 at Elite 8. They avenged an early season loss to Bethesda. Hawks, Smash, 88+3 MD, and Bethesda all went 2-1. I don't see how you can keep any of the 2-1 teams out of the playoffs - one team will be very disappointed and undeservedly kept out since tie-breaker rules were unpublished.
Igloo, United, and Diamondbacks did not make playoffs.

Express won their games by one goal against Dbacks at very end and in OT over Bethesda. Easily could've gone the other way. When the team that is 1-2 in your bracket loses to Express by one, BLC by 2 and wins 11-5 over United, I would say whoever squeaked into playoffs will have their hands full. [lacrosse] 5 v 6 seed will be another great matchup whoever it is. Good job to all. Unfortunately there are only 4 spots in playoffs. But tie breaker rules weren't published for a reason and we all know why

MM did a very honorable thing by pulling his team 88+3 MD out of the playoffs. They deserved it as much as any of the other 2-1 teams.

Great day for MD Rough Riders and FCA - both went 3-0!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day for MD Rough Riders and FCA - both went 3-0!

Playing rec teams congrats

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day for MD Rough Riders and FCA - both went 3-0!

Playing rec teams congrats

No - Looneys, Cannons, Chaos, and Next Level were there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express the only team to go 3-0 at Elite 8. They avenged an early season loss to Bethesda. Hawks, Smash, 88+3 MD, and Bethesda all went 2-1. I don't see how you can keep any of the 2-1 teams out of the playoffs - one team will be very disappointed and undeservedly kept out since tie-breaker rules were unpublished.
Igloo, United, and Diamondbacks did not make playoffs.

[/[quote=Anonymous]Express the only team to go 3-0 at Elite 8. They avenged an early season loss to Bethesda. Hawks, Smash, 88+3 MD, and Bethesda all went 2-1. I don't see how you can keep any of the 2-1 teams out of the playoffs - one team will be very disappointed and undeservedly kept out since tie-breaker rules were unpublished.
Igloo, United, and Diamondbacks did not make playoffs.

Express won their games by one goal against Dbacks at very end and in OT over Bethesda. Easily could've gone the other way. When the team that is 1-2 in your bracket loses to Express by one, BLC by 2 and wins 11-5 over United, I would say whoever squeaked into playoffs will have their hands full. [lacrosse] 5 v 6 seed will be another great matchup whoever it is. Good job to all. Unfortunately there are only 4 spots in playoffs. But tie breaker rules weren't published for a reason and we all know why

MM did a very honorable thing by pulling his team 88+3 MD out of the playoffs. They deserved it as much as any of the other 2-1 teams.

^^^^ not by any tie breaker rules in any tournament anywhere I the country. They are very good team but where best out by 3 other very good teams. Honorable is not the way to discribe his team from not making it in playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day for MD Rough Riders and FCA - both went 3-0!

Playing rec teams congrats

No butthead, they were not playing rec teams. A holes like you just can't wait to try and put down any other team.
Would rather see these two teams play in a different tourney than the one put on by cry baby MM. Boohoo that player touched my player Mr. ref, you need to kick him out of the game, and on the way off the field I'll give that kid a piece of my mind. Such an idiot in the way he tries to justify the means to an end. Completely wrong.

Rec teams

What happened to BeachLax? Only 4 teams this year-Fca, Diamondbacks, freedom and United. At least no one can complain they were in a tougher pool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to BeachLax? Only 4 teams this year-Fca, Diamondbacks, freedom and United. At least no one can complain they were in a tougher pool.

Most of the good teams are up at NLF Summer Series

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to BeachLax? Only 4 teams this year-Fca, Diamondbacks, freedom and United. At least no one can complain they were in a tougher pool.

Most of the good teams are up at NLF Summer Series

Why isn't it the same for the other grades? 2021, 2023, 2020 all have 8 teams?

Crabs Bethesda and Hawks are in NLF Summer Series only 3

Agreed he could of easily put them in instead of express, Hawks, Smash

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day for MD Rough Riders and FCA - both went 3-0!

Playing rec teams congrats

No butthead, they were not playing rec teams. A holes like you just can't wait to try and put down any other team.
Would rather see these two teams play in a different tourney than the one put on by cry baby MM. Boohoo that player touched my player Mr. ref, you need to kick him out of the game, and on the way off the field I'll give that kid a piece of my mind. Such an idiot in the way he tries to justify the means to an end. Completely wrong.

Congrats to FCA for taking home the laxaplash 'ship beating Roughriders 7-3. Another team that did not make Hoco playoffs but playing great ball.

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

So then explain why they pulled out of a game vs them in Hoco? Does MM run Hoco? But if the parents are ok paying AA money and playing in B tourneys who am I to judge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

So then explain why they pulled out of a game vs them in Hoco? Does MM run Hoco? But if the parents are ok paying AA money and playing in B tourneys who am I to judge.

They didn't pull out of a HOCO game against MM team. MM acts like a complete [lacrosse] and even talks trash to a RR player who is on the field. MM always wants his way, feels he is the god of lacrosse yet there are many who know much more than he does and do not act like they are the king of lacrosse.
Why would anyone want to be around him, even some of the parents of his players say he is not a nice person. He is driven by ego and money. And the HOCO game, RR refused to play him after the game against his team at St Paul's. MM is a cry baby.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

So then explain why they pulled out of a game vs them in Hoco? Does MM run Hoco? But if the parents are ok paying AA money and playing in B tourneys who am I to judge.

They didn't pull out of a HOCO game against MM team. MM acts like a complete [lacrosse] and even talks trash to a RR player who is on the field. MM always wants his way, feels he is the god of lacrosse yet there are many who know much more than he does and do not act like they are the king of lacrosse.
Why would anyone want to be around him, even some of the parents of his players say he is not a nice person. He is driven by ego and money. And the HOCO game, RR refused to play him after the game against his team at St Paul's. MM is a cry baby.

Says the anonymous poster trashing someone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

So then explain why they pulled out of a game vs them in Hoco? Does MM run Hoco? But if the parents are ok paying AA money and playing in B tourneys who am I to judge.

They didn't pull out of a HOCO game against MM team. MM acts like a complete [lacrosse] and even talks trash to a RR player who is on the field. MM always wants his way, feels he is the god of lacrosse yet there are many who know much more than he does and do not act like they are the king of lacrosse.
Why would anyone want to be around him, even some of the parents of his players say he is not a nice person. He is driven by ego and money. And the HOCO game, RR refused to play him after the game against his team at St Paul's. MM is a cry baby.

Says the anonymous poster trashing someone else.

If you knew MM you would clearly understand the deserved comments. Not trashing, just stating true facts. You need to understand the circumstances before you post "trashing".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

So then explain why they pulled out of a game vs them in Hoco? Does MM run Hoco? But if the parents are ok paying AA money and playing in B tourneys who am I to judge.

They didn't pull out of a HOCO game against MM team. MM acts like a complete [lacrosse] and even talks trash to a RR player who is on the field. MM always wants his way, feels he is the god of lacrosse yet there are many who know much more than he does and do not act like they are the king of lacrosse.
Why would anyone want to be around him, even some of the parents of his players say he is not a nice person. He is driven by ego and money. And the HOCO game, RR refused to play him after the game against his team at St Paul's. MM is a cry baby.

Isn't refusing to play a scheduled game the same as pulling out? Call it what ylu want....you backed out of playing and you backed out of this tourney. If i was a parent, I would want my money back. AA prices to play B tournaments???

Yes, MM is what you say....i guess I'm the guy who would show up and put my teams tent right next to his instead of running. To each his own. Good luck in the rec circuit this summer!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

So then explain why they pulled out of a game vs them in Hoco? Does MM run Hoco? But if the parents are ok paying AA money and playing in B tourneys who am I to judge.

They didn't pull out of a HOCO game against MM team. MM acts like a complete [lacrosse] and even talks trash to a RR player who is on the field. MM always wants his way, feels he is the god of lacrosse yet there are many who know much more than he does and do not act like they are the king of lacrosse.
Why would anyone want to be around him, even some of the parents of his players say he is not a nice person. He is driven by ego and money. And the HOCO game, RR refused to play him after the game against his team at St Paul's. MM is a cry baby.

Isn't refusing to play a scheduled game the same as pulling out? Call it what ylu want....you backed out of playing and you backed out of this tourney. If i was a parent, I would want my money back. AA prices to play B tournaments???

Yes, MM is what you say....i guess I'm the guy who would show up and put my teams tent right next to his instead of running. To each his own. Good luck in the rec circuit this summer!!

The schedule HOCO request was done not out of fear, no one fears MM, its putting up with his BS during a game, having him post a video of a player hitting one of his players during a game, talking trash to a RR player as he left the field, that was enough to want to not play a team associated with him and the same for his tournament. RR doesn't play in rec tournaments, as you suggested, but at the last minute the team needed to find an alternative for that weekend and the tournament they played in had an opening. This was done I April.
Why put your tent next to a butthead, I find it better and more enjoyable to be away from his type. Many coaches play against each other and off the field are friendly and speak to each other. Not MM, do something he doesn't like and he turns into a raving jerk. Even if you do nothing, he is never friendly and usually has his head up his butt. RR has more tournaments this summer that are neither rec or B. This team, from what I can see likes to play up and play AA, which is where they played in HOCO. And, the parents were in agreement about dropping MM's team from HOCO schedule and tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

So then explain why they pulled out of a game vs them in Hoco? Does MM run Hoco? But if the parents are ok paying AA money and playing in B tourneys who am I to judge.

They didn't pull out of a HOCO game against MM team. MM acts like a complete [lacrosse] and even talks trash to a RR player who is on the field. MM always wants his way, feels he is the god of lacrosse yet there are many who know much more than he does and do not act like they are the king of lacrosse.
Why would anyone want to be around him, even some of the parents of his players say he is not a nice person. He is driven by ego and money. And the HOCO game, RR refused to play him after the game against his team at St Paul's. MM is a cry baby.

Isn't refusing to play a scheduled game the same as pulling out? Call it what ylu want....you backed out of playing and you backed out of this tourney. If i was a parent, I would want my money back. AA prices to play B tournaments???

Yes, MM is what you say....i guess I'm the guy who would show up and put my teams tent right next to his instead of running. To each his own. Good luck in the rec circuit this summer!!

The schedule HOCO request was done not out of fear, no one fears MM, its putting up with his BS during a game, having him post a video of a player hitting one of his players during a game, talking trash to a RR player as he left the field, that was enough to want to not play a team associated with him and the same for his tournament. RR doesn't play in rec tournaments, as you suggested, but at the last minute the team needed to find an alternative for that weekend and the tournament they played in had an opening. This was done I April.
Why put your tent next to a butthead, I find it better and more enjoyable to be away from his type. Many coaches play against each other and off the field are friendly and speak to each other. Not MM, do something he doesn't like and he turns into a raving jerk. Even if you do nothing, he is never friendly and usually has his head up his butt. RR has more tournaments this summer that are neither rec or B. This team, from what I can see likes to play up and play AA, which is where they played in HOCO. And, the parents were in agreement about dropping MM's team from HOCO schedule and tournament.

I am not disputing ANYTHING you are saying about MM. 100% agreement. He always shows who he is by his actions.....however, is THIS how you want RR to be perceived? Even folks who despise MM are judging you more harshly than him for how YOU handled this. It has the strong appearance of running and hiding. Again, no need to reply about what a jerk he is. We know that. Just know your team's rep has taken a big hit too based on how you handled it.

Most people WERE on your side and were hoping you would beat them in the rematch to shut him up. But you backed out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good thing RR ran scared and didn't play in Millon's event. They would have gotten embarrassed. Z

Why would they even want to play in any event put of by the POS MM. Plus buddy boy, they never ran scared, they just knew what a ahold MM is and took a better path.

So then explain why they pulled out of a game vs them in Hoco? Does MM run Hoco? But if the parents are ok paying AA money and playing in B tourneys who am I to judge.

They didn't pull out of a HOCO game against MM team. MM acts like a complete [lacrosse] and even talks trash to a RR player who is on the field. MM always wants his way, feels he is the god of lacrosse yet there are many who know much more than he does and do not act like they are the king of lacrosse.
Why would anyone want to be around him, even some of the parents of his players say he is not a nice person. He is driven by ego and money. And the HOCO game, RR refused to play him after the game against his team at St Paul's. MM is a cry baby.

Says the anonymous poster trashing someone else.

If you knew MM you would clearly understand the deserved comments. Not trashing, just stating true facts. You need to understand the circumstances before you post "trashing".

Actually, do know him from a coaching perspective for my child and he is not a warm fuzzy but is a great technical coach and the team learns a lot. There is no verbal abuse like so many other coaches but there is also no coddling. To each their own, but your constant trashing him makes you look a bit petty and jealous.

Is is pretty amusing as MM is tame compared to many coaches your child and team will encounter. Again, not a nurturing type and if that is what you are looking for go somewhere else but He IS one of the most knowledgeable about the game and able to teach the game which so many coaches can not. the RR poster seems to be blowing everything out of proportion and is clearly annoyed about something more than the guy being a jerk.

Bethesda/ Smash rematch this weekend!

Yeah, you suck holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bethesda/ Smash rematch this weekend!

Amazing how a team like Bethesda can win only 2 games in the Hoco league yet make it to the championship of probably the toughest tournament for 2022 in Millon's event. Must have had some great practices during Memorial Day week

How come no one talks about Igloo...yes there are some weak kids on the top team but overall as a group they should be rated in the top 3 on Ll. They have 2 or 3 of the best skilled kids out there. Maybe small but pound for pound tough as it gets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come no one talks about Igloo...yes there are some weak kids on the top team but overall as a group they should be rated in the top 3 on Ll. They have 2 or 3 of the best skilled kids out there. Maybe small but pound for pound tough as it gets

Maybe because this is a Maryland 2022 forum??? Just another LI parent obsessed with Maryland LAX I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come no one talks about Igloo...yes there are some weak kids on the top team but overall as a group they should be rated in the top 3 on Ll. They have 2 or 3 of the best skilled kids out there. Maybe small but pound for pound tough as it gets

Well you should be able to prove your ranking in 8 weeks or so. Just keep track of all the top teams and tournament results and bring them back here to prove your point. Like they say "that is why they play the game"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come no one talks about Igloo...yes there are some weak kids on the top team but overall as a group they should be rated in the top 3 on Ll. They have 2 or 3 of the best skilled kids out there. Maybe small but pound for pound tough as it gets

Well you should be able to prove your ranking in 8 weeks or so. Just keep track of all the top teams and tournament results and bring them back here to prove your point. Like they say "that is why they play the game"

Igloo is a great 2022 team. Unfortunately, they were only the 6th best team at E8 this past weekend. (Ahead of Diamondbacks and United)4

Igloo went 0-4 last weekend. I believe the one fat,Up obnoxious parent ate more cheeseburgers than Igloo scored foals?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went 0-4 last weekend. I believe the one fat,Up obnoxious parent ate more cheeseburgers than Igloo scored foals?

Igloo beat Diamondbacks in consolation game 1-3 (repeat of Dicks national championship game - does not give a lot credence to that tournament)

Every team lost except Express. Any given tournament the top 8 teams can beat anyone. No dominant team for 2022

Igloo not an offensive threat at this point. Attackmen are not big enough/strong enough yet. And I said 'YET' Which is not an indictment of their talent, especially with age discrepancy discussion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every team lost except Express. Any given tournament the top 8 teams can beat anyone. No dominant team for 2022

I agree. Not a MM parent bit his tourney was great. Agree, you could play the same tournament this weekend and it could be flipped. A lot of very good teams. I suspect those who play each other again this summer will take turns beating each other. Sort of like last summer too.

This weekend will say a lot. Great Tournaments and competition . 2022 is stacked with talent .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come no one talks about Igloo...yes there are some weak kids on the top team but overall as a group they should be rated in the top 3 on Ll. They have 2 or 3 of the best skilled kids out there. Maybe small but pound for pound tough as it gets

Well you should be able to prove your ranking in 8 weeks or so. Just keep track of all the top teams and tournament results and bring them back here to prove your point. Like they say "that is why they play the game"

Igloo is a great 2022 team. Unfortunately, they were only the 6th best team at E8 this past weekend. (Ahead of Diamondbacks and United)4

Igloo not really even 6th...They had no wins day 1 which put them 7th or 8th with United depending on which non published MM tiebreaker you go by. Consolation bracket posted that day had 5v6 as consolation game which Igloo was neither. MM changed the games, maybe so Md vs Ny teams instead of the way it was set originally. Anyone of these teams could win the whole thing really.

Why isn't Igloo playing this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why isn't Igloo playing this weekend?

Too hot for igloos

Better to play the week team. Easier path to the championship. Rather play a town team then a proven travel team.

Crabs and Bethesda just miss Nlf playoffs. Hawks are only MD team in.

Smash/ Bethesda tie in rematch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs and Bethesda just miss Nlf playoffs. Hawks are only MD team in.

NLF: Playoffs
Express 3-0
Hawks 3-0
Smash 2-0-1 (tied Bethesda, but had goal differential tie breaker)
Prime Time 1-1-1 (tied Crabs but had goals against tie breaker)

Beachlax
Fca 2-0
United 1-1
Diamondbacks 1-1

Next Level Greyhounds and Bucktown are 3-0 at Rumble in Richmond.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beachlax
Fca 2-0
United 1-1
Diamondbacks 1-1

Fca beats United 9-2 yesterday and United beats fca today in championship 5-2. Crazy world of 12 year old lacrosse.

Fca kids must of driven home early and beat the traffic.

Beach lax was a terrible tournament for 2022

Where was 91 MD this weekend? Weren't in NLF or Beachlax?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beachlax
Fca 2-0
United 1-1
Diamondbacks 1-1

Fca beats United 9-2 yesterday and United beats fca today in championship 5-2. Crazy world of 12 year old lacrosse.

Crazy is right. FCA was dominate for most of the tournament, bigger and faster
Kids than everybody. United came out on fire and beat Them 5 - 0. AA bracket was very competitive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beachlax
Fca 2-0
United 1-1
Diamondbacks 1-1

Fca beats United 9-2 yesterday and United beats fca today in championship 5-2. Crazy world of 12 year old lacrosse.

Crazy is right. FCA was dominate for most of the tournament, bigger and faster
Kids than everybody. United came out on fire and beat Them 5 - 0. AA bracket was very competitive.

Pretty funny 9ty1's B team won the AA bracket. Great group of teams there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beachlax
Fca 2-0
United 1-1
Diamondbacks 1-1

Fca beats United 9-2 yesterday and United beats fca today in championship 5-2. Crazy world of 12 year old lacrosse.

Crazy is right. FCA was dominate for most of the tournament, bigger and faster
Kids than everybody. United came out on fire and beat Them 5 - 0. AA bracket was very competitive.

Pretty funny 9ty1's B team won the AA bracket. Great group of teams there

Hilarious. Congratulations you classy [lacrosse].

United play great since they had players from Igloo.. The face off guy and the goalie played with igloo last week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

United play great since they had players from Igloo.. The face off guy and the goalie played with igloo last week.

Not sure about the FOGO but the goalie for sure has ALWAYS been with United so you need to get your facts straight. He might have played with Igloo last week but he's with the 91 program.

Wasn't there, but FYI: 91 United is not a B team. It is one of the best 2022 teams in LI. I doubt that it had a goalie or face-off player from Igloo. United has one of the best goalies in the age group and several strong face-off players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

United play great since they had players from Igloo.. The face off guy and the goalie played with igloo last week.

This is someone just being an a hole.

How is Madlax Capital 2022? How do they compare to 2022 teams such as Crabs, Hawks, Bethesda?

Well Coached
Hawks
Bethesda
MadLax
Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wasn't there, but FYI: 91 United is not a B team. It is one of the best 2022 teams in LI. I doubt that it had a goalie or face-off player from Igloo. United has one of the best goalies in the age group and several strong face-off players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wasn't there, but FYI: 91 United is not a B team. It is one of the best 2022 teams in LI. I doubt that it had a goalie or face-off player from Igloo. United has one of the best goalies in the age group and several strong face-off players.

United lost every game at the elite 8. or maybe won 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wasn't there, but FYI: 91 United is not a B team. It is one of the best 2022 teams in LI. I doubt that it had a goalie or face-off player from Igloo. United has one of the best goalies in the age group and several strong face-off players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wasn't there, but FYI: 91 United is not a B team. It is one of the best 2022 teams in LI. I doubt that it had a goalie or face-off player from Igloo. United has one of the best goalies in the age group and several strong face-off players.

United lost every game at the elite 8. or maybe won 1

Unlike most tournaments, the elite 8 was appropriately named. No shame in being one of the top ten teams in the country.

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Bad coaching and daddy ball has caught up with them.

Which is the best club alliance? NLF? Passport? Nscla?

Any real benefit for the kids? Or just a way for clubs to split tourney profits?

Probably due to the fact that since they merged with API they now have the drowsiest uniform around...

NLF is the best with NSLA second place

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Bad coaching and daddy ball has caught up with them.

They have 13 coaches...they can't all be bad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Lost to 91 United by a goal beat them the week before by 6
Beat philly freedom in a blow out.
Lost to FCa team loaded with holdbacks. Beat FcA twice in spring leagues.
Hardly a Rec team. Where you there? Still one of the top teams in this area. Won MPLL this year. Hawks won HOCo. What other teams have won anything this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Lost to 91 United by a goal beat them the week before by 6
Beat philly freedom in a blow out.
Lost to FCa team loaded with holdbacks. Beat FcA twice in spring leagues.
Hardly a Rec team. Where you there? Still one of the top teams in this area. Won MPLL this year. Hawks won HOCo. What other teams have won anything this year?

Exactly. Funny if this is an FCA daddy since they only beat the team he diminishes as a rec team by 3. Keep hating and disrespecting other teams. Don't think that behavior was in the daily devotional.

Summer Exposure Day 1:
Hawks 3-0
T9D1 2-0-1
Bucktown 2-0-1
NL Greyhaounds 1-2
Bethesda 1-2
PA RoughRiders 0-3

Looks like it is LI Outlaws and MD RoughRiders having great days at NSCLA.

Bethesda shows up to Summer Exposure with a completely different team than the past 2 tournaments. T9D1 will win it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like it is LI Outlaws and MD RoughRiders having great days at NSCLA.

Good for the Rough Riders

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bethesda shows up to Summer Exposure with a completely different team than the past 2 tournaments. T9D1 will win it

Or Bucktown - they tied each other.

Who is bucks lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Lost to 91 United by a goal beat them the week before by 6
Beat philly freedom in a blow out.
Lost to FCa team loaded with holdbacks. Beat FcA twice in spring leagues.
Hardly a Rec team. Where you there? Still one of the top teams in this area. Won MPLL this year. Hawks won HOCo. What other teams have won anything this year?

The MPLL was a joke of a league, might as well have won a county rec championship basically the same thing. Diamondbacks 2022 won't win another tournament the rest of the year. Then in August all of the good players will be at Hawks tryouts.

Question did Hawks play in MPLL?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bethesda shows up to Summer Exposure with a completely different team than the past 2 tournaments. T9D1 will win it

Or Bucktown - they tied each other.

Or Hawks. Who beat Buckstown by 5 or 6.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question did Hawks play in MPLL?

Yes Hawks lost to Rough Riders in semis

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Lost to 91 United by a goal beat them the week before by 6
Beat philly freedom in a blow out.
Lost to FCa team loaded with holdbacks. Beat FcA twice in spring leagues.
Hardly a Rec team. Where you there? Still one of the top teams in this area. Won MPLL this year. Hawks won HOCo. What other teams have won anything this year?

The MPLL was a joke of a league, might as well have won a county rec championship basically the same thing. Diamondbacks 2022 won't win another tournament the rest of the year. Then in August all of the good players will be at Hawks tryouts.

Yes and no. Hawks, Diamonds, Team 91, FCA, and Rough riders all in MPLL so not a rec league. There were some other teams there not the on this level but Diamondbacks schedule matched up wto th above teams, not the teams that shouldn't have been there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Lost to 91 United by a goal beat them the week before by 6
Beat philly freedom in a blow out.
Lost to FCa team loaded with holdbacks. Beat FcA twice in spring leagues.
Hardly a Rec team. Where you there? Still one of the top teams in this area. Won MPLL this year. Hawks won HOCo. What other teams have won anything this year?

The MPLL was a joke of a league, might as well have won a county rec championship basically the same thing. Diamondbacks 2022 won't win another tournament the rest of the year. Then in August all of the good players will be at Hawks tryouts.

Diamondbacks lost to LIE by one and a stacked BLC roster by 1 or 2 at Elite 8. The next couple years, wins become less important and player exposure matters more. All these kids riding the Hawks and other benches will be trying out for the Diamondbacks now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scary at Beach Lax this pass weekend the Diamondbacks 2022 looked like a rec team at is best. What happened to them they were always competitive now they cant get anything going and looked terrible.

Lost to 91 United by a goal beat them the week before by 6
Beat philly freedom in a blow out.
Lost to FCa team loaded with holdbacks. Beat FcA twice in spring leagues.
Hardly a Rec team. Where you there? Still one of the top teams in this area. Won MPLL this year. Hawks won HOCo. What other teams have won anything this year?

The MPLL was a joke of a league, might as well have won a county rec championship basically the same thing. Diamondbacks 2022 won't win another tournament the rest of the year. Then in August all of the good players will be at Hawks tryouts.

Right. And what has team 91, crabs, mad lax won? Team 91 nor Hawks made it past semis in MPLL. Hawks are really the team to beat this year.

Mad dog over patriot 4-3 in summer slam championship.

MD Rough Riders over LI Outlaws 6-5 in NSCLA championship.

BBL over CT Chargers 10-2 in the NXT Meltdown championship today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBL over CT Chargers 10-2 in the NXT Meltdown championship today.

Who? Where?

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

API parent. ^^^

Better team than 2022 Hawks? You are delusional.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

No, PLAYED the Hawks twice today. 4 times in last month. Usually great games except final. Why would their plays go to a team that runs and hides from us?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

No one from Annapolis is driving 1hr to western Howard county for practices a couple times a week no matter how good the coaching. Totally different region.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

No, PLAYED the Hawks twice today. 4 times in last month. Usually great games except final. Why would their plays go to a team that runs and hides from us?

Is this a 9D1 parent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

No one from Annapolis is driving 1hr to western Howard county for practices a couple times a week no matter how good the coaching. Totally different region.

Go on the Hawks site and look at the credentials of the 2022 coaches. I don't think you can say there is a team out there that has a better coaching staff all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

API parent. ^^^

What makes you say this is an API parent?

What happened/how did 91 loss 1-13 to Hawks in final? MM must have been very pleased?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

LOLOLOLOLOL

haters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

API parent. ^^^

What makes you say this is an API parent?

Not many kids likely to leave API since the majority of kids have their dad on the coaching staff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

API parent. ^^^

What makes you say this is an API parent?

Not many kids likely to leave API since the majority of kids have their dad on the coaching staff.

yes that is true, daddies can't let go..
Not sure how any one can make a statement about the RR being a better team than the Hawks. RR is avery good team and on the rise in this area. Hawks are the best team in this region right now period. Any coach will say the same .
no team is unbeatable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

API parent. ^^^

What makes you say this is an API parent?

Not many kids likely to leave API since the majority of kids have their dad on the coaching staff.

yes that is true, daddies can't let go..
Not sure how any one can make a statement about the RR being a better team than the Hawks. RR is avery good team and on the rise in this area. Hawks are the best team in this region right now period. Any coach will say the same .
no team is unbeatable.

RR only team to beat the Hawks this past spring. RR is getting better the more they play.

That's great. But don't be pompous. You beat a team once, that's a fluke. You beat a team consistently and convincingly...then you can say you're better. By the way, you should be able to be beat all the teams that team has beaten as well. Otherwise, it looks like you just got lucky or your opponent had a bad day. Bragging rights are hard to come by.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Hawks players going to Rough Riders? Better Coaching better team.

API parent. ^^^

What makes you say this is an API parent?

Not many kids likely to leave API since the majority of kids have their dad on the coaching staff.

yes that is true, daddies can't let go..
Not sure how any one can make a statement about the RR being a better team than the Hawks. RR is avery good team and on the rise in this area. Hawks are the best team in this region right now period. Any coach will say the same .
no team is unbeatable.

RR only team to beat the Hawks this past spring. RR is getting better the more they play.

they run away more than they play it seems

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's great. But don't be pompous. You beat a team once, that's a fluke. You beat a team consistently and convincingly...then you can say you're better. By the way, you should be able to be beat all the teams that team has beaten as well. Otherwise, it looks like you just got lucky or your opponent had a bad day. Bragging rights are hard to come by.

Hey sh*thead, who in the [lacrosse] made you the almighty. Who said anything about bragging other than you. A statement was made, but you need to get your panties in a knot and start your dribble. Does your wife put up with this crap from you. And trust me, the Hawks program has no room to brag, period. Hawks 2022 was beaten, pure and simple but you need to start making excuses, you are clearly a very insecure individual.

RR only team to beat the Hawks this past spring. RR is getting better the more they play.
[/quote]

they run away more than they play it seems [/quote]

Have no idea what you are talking about and I sincerely believe you have no idea what you are talking about either.

Those RR coaches act like lunatics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's great. But don't be pompous. You beat a team once, that's a fluke. You beat a team consistently and convincingly...then you can say you're better. By the way, you should be able to be beat all the teams that team has beaten as well. Otherwise, it looks like you just got lucky or your opponent had a bad day. Bragging rights are hard to come by.

Hey sh*thead, who in the [lacrosse] made you the almighty. Who said anything about bragging other than you. A statement was made, but you need to get your panties in a knot and start your dribble. Does your wife put up with this crap from you. And trust me, the Hawks program has no room to brag, period. Hawks 2022 was beaten, pure and simple but you need to start making excuses, you are clearly a very insecure individual.

Not a Hawks dad. Just making an observation. You shouldn't brag bc you won one game. It makes you look silly.

RR = trash

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's great. But don't be pompous. You beat a team once, that's a fluke. You beat a team consistently and convincingly...then you can say you're better. By the way, you should be able to be beat all the teams that team has beaten as well. Otherwise, it looks like you just got lucky or your opponent had a bad day. Bragging rights are hard to come by.

Hey sh*thead, who in the [lacrosse] made you the almighty. Who said anything about bragging other than you. A statement was made, but you need to get your panties in a knot and start your dribble. Does your wife put up with this crap from you. And trust me, the Hawks program has no room to brag, period. Hawks 2022 was beaten, pure and simple but you need to start making excuses, you are clearly a very insecure individual.

Of course the Hawks have no room to brag if they beat the Roughriders...it's only the Roughriders.

I finally heard of you after the Millon thing and of course became a fan...then I read here you ran away like poo says. I guess we know why Bayhawks stink too? Same coaches.

So Hawks self proclaimed best team in area......won one league lost the other. Won one tournament lost 2 more. There is not one dominate team at this aga a bunch of very good teams. The top 5 teams can beat any team any day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Hawks self proclaimed best team in area......won one league lost the other. Won one tournament lost 2 more. There is not one dominate team at this aga a bunch of very good teams. The top 5 teams can beat any team any day.

Except for the diamondbacks, they can't beat anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Hawks self proclaimed best team in area......won one league lost the other. Won one tournament lost 2 more. There is not one dominate team at this aga a bunch of very good teams. The top 5 teams can beat any team any day.

I agree with your last 2 sentences. I believe dbags, Hawks, 89+2, Crabs, maybe missed someone CAN all beat each other. While you are correct that Hawks have won 1 tourney and lost 2....no losses to Maryland teams in either. Since last fall, Hawks have lost locally to a 2021 Bethesda team indoor and the RR after beating them back to back weeks Have beaten everyone else except crabs who we haven't played.

Sure, teams can beat anyone but not sure you can argue the Hawks haven't been the best team this year.

hawks have kids that are 5'8 165 lbs and they have dads that are little napolians...HOLDBACKS can you say....And the fathers are DBs talking trash abt 12 yr old boys...You Hawk dads are an embarrassment to your sons and the game of lax....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hawks have kids that are 5'8 165 lbs and they have dads that are little napolians...HOLDBACKS can you say....And the fathers are DBs talking trash abt 12 yr old boys...You Hawk dads are an embarrassment to your sons and the game of lax....

100% accurate. But just wait for the Hawks faithful to start their push back, saying it's not true blah blah blah.
Hawks dads keep pounding their chests saying how great the 2022 team is when they know there are several holdbacks, but it will be denied.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hawks have kids that are 5'8 165 lbs and they have dads that are little napolians...HOLDBACKS can you say....And the fathers are DBs talking trash abt 12 yr old boys...You Hawk dads are an embarrassment to your sons and the game of lax....

100% accurate. But just wait for the Hawks faithful to start their push back, saying it's not true blah blah blah.
Hawks dads keep pounding their chests saying how great the 2022 team is when they know there are several holdbacks, but it will be denied.

100% accurate? Why, because a few kids are big? Ask your coach for a roster and come back with facts. Probably won't since you'd rather come on here and make baseless claims.

RR parent here. Anonymous forum posters don't speak for us parents of 2022 players. Everyone knows that the boys have plenty of work to do before anyone boasts about our team on message boards. The boys are having fun and improving, but our coaches are the first to remind the boys that there is much work to be done. Our sons know and respect the kids on FCA, 91, Hawks, Diamondbacks, etc. Everyone have a great summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Hawks self proclaimed best team in area......won one league lost the other. Won one tournament lost 2 more. There is not one dominate team at this aga a bunch of very good teams. The top 5 teams can beat any team any day.

self proclaimed?? Have you watched any games at all this year ?
lost 2 a very good RR team once . they played them like 5 times this year
2 other loses came from LI Express who has destroyed everyone else they have faced this summer.

Really good line up for madlax cap classic. Api, cannons, madlax, palm beach revo, Carolina. Pbr looking good and could take this one - beat crabs last week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hawks have kids that are 5'8 165 lbs and they have dads that are little napolians...HOLDBACKS can you say....And the fathers are DBs talking trash abt 12 yr old boys...You Hawk dads are an embarrassment to your sons and the game of lax....

100% accurate. But just wait for the Hawks faithful to start their push back, saying it's not true blah blah blah.
Hawks dads keep pounding their chests saying how great the 2022 team is when they know there are several holdbacks, but it will be denied.

Every single team has players that are big boys as the Hawks and as small. Every single defenseman on 9D1 is just has big, Dbacks have a few big kids too..
Have fun trying to make excuses for your son and most importantly for your self on here. Pounding of chest! too funny..
and lets not pretend that every single team out there has HOLDBACKS !

100% accurate? Why, because a few kids are big? Ask your coach for a roster and come back with facts. Probably won't since you'd rather come on here and make baseless claims.

ANYTIME ANY ONE wants to walk up to the parents of these bigger boys and so called holdbacks and ask for proof on any team, feel free.( you will be shocked to find most are younger than your child) Crying foul because you lost to a team that has the same roster since winter with the same age and grade as your kid is classless and amusing. Everyone knows who you are on the sidelines losing your mind cause your little johnny is not winning.

If you don't like the rules of tournaments and leagues you might want to jump over to that forum where the cry babies lerk.

2022 local teams in maryland are very good and will be with or without your comically statements about 12 year olds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hawks have kids that are 5'8 165 lbs and they have dads that are little napolians...HOLDBACKS can you say....And the fathers are DBs talking trash abt 12 yr old boys...You Hawk dads are an embarrassment to your sons and the game of lax....

Not a Hawk parent, but I have to say that there is only one kid this big on this team. He's 12. Friends with the family. The other two kids that are pretty big on this team go to public school. Before you go off spouting, find out what you're talking about.

Looks like some local AA teams will be matched up against some A teams in this weekend's Maryland Lacrosse Tourney at McDonough.
What's the likelihood for one of the A teams knocking off one of the AA teams?
My guess is RoughRiders takes the championship.

Madlax 2022 is the best. Book it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 is the best. Book it.

They have an entirely new lineup. I expect big things at the next tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 is the best. Book it.

They have an entirely new lineup. I expect big things at the next tournament.

They are coached now by a parent of one of the kids on the team. The other parents aren't happy about it. Expect a lot of drama.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like some local AA teams will be matched up against some A teams in this weekend's Maryland Lacrosse Tourney at McDonough.
What's the likelihood for one of the A teams knocking off one of the AA teams?
My guess is RoughRiders takes the championship.

They all look like A teams to me - not exactly the most competitive tourney...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 is the best. Book it.

Looks like they are booked in some really competitive tourneys - that Capital Classic is going to be a tough one!! LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really good line up for madlax cap classic. Api, cannons, madlax, palm beach revo, Carolina. Pbr looking good and could take this one - beat crabs last week.

LOL. You realize the Madlax tournament in Poolesville is one of the worst ones out there, right?

From 8th grade up, clubs only send their B teams. He's able to sucker his good teams from 7th grade down because those parents don't realize yet how bad the competition will be.

I'm an FCA parent, and we have players on our team that are bigger than the average 12 year old. But they are all going into 7th grade and so are the Hawks bigger kids. When we were in Beachlax the kid from United was 6'1 185lbs. He played attack but everyone thought the kid was a MAJOR HOLDBACK. Their parents said that their son was 6th grade and was 11 years old. So some kids are bigger than others but you should stop calling kids holdback when you don't even know. There's a kid on Bethesda 2021 that is 4'10 and hes supposed to be in high school right now. But they don't think he's a holdback even though he's in 9 th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like some local AA teams will be matched up against some A teams in this weekend's Maryland Lacrosse Tourney at McDonough.
What's the likelihood for one of the A teams knocking off one of the AA teams?
My guess is RoughRiders takes the championship.

They all look like A teams to me - not exactly the most competitive tourney...

I only see two aa teams - rough riders and fca. (Neither made hoco playoffs)

Was Bethesda missing players at Summer Exposure? They didn't seem to play at the same level as their past two tournaments.

I believe Thunder from Georgia is an AA team too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe Thunder from Georgia is an AA team too.

It is the UC (bel air md) Thunder - not Georgia Thunder attending. UC Thunder is not AA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm an FCA parent, and we have players on our team that are bigger than the average 12 year old. But they are all going into 7th grade and so are the Hawks bigger kids. When we were in Beachlax the kid from United was 6'1 185lbs. He played attack but everyone thought the kid was a MAJOR HOLDBACK. Their parents said that their son was 6th grade and was 11 years old. So some kids are bigger than others but you should stop calling kids holdback when you don't even know. There's a kid on Bethesda 2021 that is 4'10 and hes supposed to be in high school right now. But they don't think he's a holdback even though he's in 9 th grade.

Then as an FCA 2022 parent, you should know that there are at least 7 kids on your roster that are already 13. The fact that they are going into 7th grade is meaningless in the holdback discussion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 is the best. Book it.

Looks like they are booked in some really competitive tourneys - that Capital Classic is going to be a tough one!! LOL

Looks like the api team entered capital classic just so they could hopefully win a tournament this year. They have really fallen from where they were a couple of years ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm an FCA parent, and we have players on our team that are bigger than the average 12 year old. But they are all going into 7th grade and so are the Hawks bigger kids. When we were in Beachlax the kid from United was 6'1 185lbs. He played attack but everyone thought the kid was a MAJOR HOLDBACK. Their parents said that their son was 6th grade and was 11 years old. So some kids are bigger than others but you should stop calling kids holdback when you don't even know. There's a kid on Bethesda 2021 that is 4'10 and hes supposed to be in high school right now. But they don't think he's a holdback even though he's in 9 th grade.

Agree. Many times it is the average or smaller kids that are the holdbacks because they either struggle or can't make their on age team

Madlax 2022 coached by the dad of one of the players. That's two Madlax teams coached by dads.

I thought they didn't do Daddy Ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 coached by the dad of one of the players. That's two Madlax teams coached by dads.

I thought they didn't do Daddy Ball.

Well they only have one Dad coaching this summer. And he is the first dad to ever coach for Madlax not counting Cabel coaching his 2024 sons in the spring over 20 years of lacrosse. And this dad is coaching because the original coach had to stop with a short notice. I will bet he will not be a coach next spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm an FCA parent, and we have players on our team that are bigger than the average 12 year old. But they are all going into 7th grade and so are the Hawks bigger kids. When we were in Beachlax the kid from United was 6'1 185lbs. He played attack but everyone thought the kid was a MAJOR HOLDBACK. Their parents said that their son was 6th grade and was 11 years old. So some kids are bigger than others but you should stop calling kids holdback when you don't even know. There's a kid on Bethesda 2021 that is 4'10 and hes supposed to be in high school right now. But they don't think he's a holdback even though he's in 9 th grade.

Then as an FCA 2022 parent, you should know that there are at least 7 kids on your roster that are already 13. The fact that they are going into 7th grade is meaningless in the holdback discussion.

IM Not a FCA dad,, And Im sure you want everyone to know that your sons team has NO holdbacks at ALL ..Anonymously?
There is not 1 Single 2022 team that doesn't have a Holdback on it .. And my bet is 95% have nothing to do with lacrosse but when their birthday happens to land on and are following ALL rules of every tourney and league out there.

Please don't start on this thread again about Holdbacks. There is a cry baby page on the next forum over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 coached by the dad of one of the players. That's two Madlax teams coached by dads.

I thought they didn't do Daddy Ball.

Well they only have one Dad coaching this summer. And he is the first dad to ever coach for Madlax not counting Cabel coaching his 2024 sons in the spring over 20 years of lacrosse. And this dad is coaching because the original coach had to stop with a short notice. I will bet he will not be a coach next spring.

Wrong. He is coaching because he complained that his son wasn't playing enough and Madlax gave in because this guy has something on them (everyone knows what it is).

The Madlax owner is also coaching his sons too. Everyone knows that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 coached by the dad of one of the players. That's two Madlax teams coached by dads.

I thought they didn't do Daddy Ball.

Well they only have one Dad coaching this summer. And he is the first dad to ever coach for Madlax not counting Cabel coaching his 2024 sons in the spring over 20 years of lacrosse. And this dad is coaching because the original coach had to stop with a short notice. I will bet he will not be a coach next spring.

Wrong. He is coaching because he complained that his son wasn't playing enough and Madlax gave in because this guy has something on them (everyone knows what it is).

The Madlax owner is also coaching his sons too. Everyone knows that.

Has something on him?? Like pictures or something? Please tell us

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2022 coached by the dad of one of the players. That's two Madlax teams coached by dads.

I thought they didn't do Daddy Ball.

Well they only have one Dad coaching this summer. And he is the first dad to ever coach for Madlax not counting Cabel coaching his 2024 sons in the spring over 20 years of lacrosse. And this dad is coaching because the original coach had to stop with a short notice. I will bet he will not be a coach next spring.

Wrong. He is coaching because he complained that his son wasn't playing enough and Madlax gave in because this guy has something on them (everyone knows what it is).

The Madlax owner is also coaching his sons too. Everyone knows that.

You have no clue what you're talking about - this coach's son is one of the best players on that team and has been since first playing for Madlax. His dad is harder on him than any other kid out there. Quit talking about things you have no clue about...

He also wasn't happy about playing time, which is why he got the previous coach canned. Parents on the team know about it and I'm sure you do too.

Do you like paying for daddy ball?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm an FCA parent, and we have players on our team that are bigger than the average 12 year old. But they are all going into 7th grade and so are the Hawks bigger kids. When we were in Beachlax the kid from United was 6'1 185lbs. He played attack but everyone thought the kid was a MAJOR HOLDBACK. Their parents said that their son was 6th grade and was 11 years old. So some kids are bigger than others but you should stop calling kids holdback when you don't even know. There's a kid on Bethesda 2021 that is 4'10 and hes supposed to be in high school right now. But they don't think he's a holdback even though he's in 9 th grade.

Then as an FCA 2022 parent, you should know that there are at least 7 kids on your roster that are already 13. The fact that they are going into 7th grade is meaningless in the holdback discussion.

IM Not a FCA dad,, And Im sure you want everyone to know that your sons team has NO holdbacks at ALL ..Anonymously?
There is not 1 Single 2022 team that doesn't have a Holdback on it .. And my bet is 95% have nothing to do with lacrosse but when their birthday happens to land on and are following ALL rules of every tourney and league out there.

Horse Crap FCA...The coaches son is a holdback....Good Lord idiot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He also wasn't happy about playing time, which is why he got the previous coach canned. Parents on the team know about it and I'm sure you do too.

Do you like paying for daddy ball?

Take the needle off your broken record - sounds like maybe someone else is complaining about their son not getting enough playing time...

Coach's 2022 son is a holdback?
Thought about having my son tryout for their team, but both their header and assistant coach's sons play pole D. Not much playing time for my son even if he were a better player. Oh well.

Same reason why the high school will lose out on local area top players.
Surely one of the other area top 5 schools would welcome players without the discriminatory eye.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Same reason why the high school will lose out on local area top players.
Surely one of the other area top 5 schools would welcome players without the discriminatory eye.

What club team and high school are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He also wasn't happy about playing time, which is why he got the previous coach canned. Parents on the team know about it and I'm sure you do too.

Do you like paying for daddy ball?

Take the needle off your broken record - sounds like maybe someone else is complaining about their son not getting enough playing time...

Typical Madlax parent response. Turn a blind eye to bad behavior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach's 2022 son is a holdback?
Thought about having my son tryout for their team, but both their header and assistant coach's sons play pole D. Not much playing time for my son even if he were a better player. Oh well.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? The Crabs 2022 coaches son is in high school and plays attack. Neither of the assistants have kids on the team. Are you delusional or just misinformed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach's 2022 son is a holdback?
Thought about having my son tryout for their team, but both their header and assistant coach's sons play pole D. Not much playing time for my son even if he were a better player. Oh well.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? The Crabs 2022 coaches son is in high school and plays attack. Neither of the assistants have kids on the team. Are you delusional or just misinformed?

He has multiple sons, including one on the 2022 team. Daddy Ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach's 2022 son is a holdback?
Thought about having my son tryout for their team, but both their header and assistant coach's sons play pole D. Not much playing time for my son even if he were a better player. Oh well.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? The Crabs 2022 coaches son is in high school and plays attack. Neither of the assistants have kids on the team. Are you delusional or just misinformed?

He has multiple sons, including one on the 2022 team. Daddy Ball.

There are no dad coaches on Crabs 2022. Not sure what you are talking about. There are three coaches. None of them have kids on the team. The coaches and rosters are on the website jackass.

Get off your high horse lime green dad.
We have moved on from your obsession with crabs and are talking about FCA.
PS-your lanyards with precious are awesome.
Can't wait to see them this weekend.
Don't forget your matching coffee tumbler mugs.
Even out of state teams laugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach's 2022 son is a holdback?
Thought about having my son tryout for their team, but both their header and assistant coach's sons play pole D. Not much playing time for my son even if he were a better player. Oh well.

What the [lacrosse] are you talking about? The Crabs 2022 coaches son is in high school and plays attack. Neither of the assistants have kids on the team. Are you delusional or just misinformed?

He has multiple sons, including one on the 2022 team. Daddy Ball.

There are no dad coaches on Crabs 2022. Not sure what you are talking about. There are three coaches. None of them have kids on the team. The coaches and rosters are on the website jackass.

He was referring to Madlax 2022. You guys brought Crabs into the discussion and it tangled up.

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

Cannons 3-0 with win over API at MadLax today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

As they should be. They are playing down against teams that were a lower division in HoCo league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cannons 3-0 with win over API at MadLax today.

Madlax undefeated as well. Cannons play madlax at 9am tomorrow. Championship game preview?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

As they should be. They are playing down against teams that were a lower division in HoCo league.

Cmon - they are playing every tournament possible within 1/2 hour of home that team 9dee1 md is not playing in also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

As they should be. They are playing down against teams that were a lower division in HoCo league.

Cmon - they are playing every tournament possible within 1/2 hour of home that team 9dee1 md is not playing in also.

Why would they avoid 91 md?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cannons 3-0 with win over API at MadLax today.

Madlax undefeated as well. Cannons play madlax at 9am tomorrow. Championship game preview?

Wrong. Mad lax lost to API at 9am game today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cannons 3-0 with win over API at MadLax today.

Madlax undefeated as well. Cannons play madlax at 9am tomorrow. Championship game preview?

Wrong. Mad lax lost to API at 9am game today.

MadLax redemption over API. OT Braveheart win in semis. Headed to the 'ship

API goes to a B level tournament and finishes 2-3. The downward spiral continues. I bet the Hawks tryout registrations are coming in fast!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

As they should be. They are playing down against teams that were a lower division in HoCo league.

Cmon - they are playing every tournament possible within 1/2 hour of home that team 9dee1 md is not playing in also.

Why would they avoid 91 md?

MM thought BR was targeting his kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

FCA beat Roughriders 10-5 in Mcdonogh MD championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

As they should be. They are playing down against teams that were a lower division in HoCo league.

Cmon - they are playing every tournament possible within 1/2 hour of home that team 9dee1 md is not playing in also.

Why would they avoid 91 md?

MM thought BR was targeting his kid.

Which is completely untrue. RR are not coached like that. MM is a complete moron.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

As they should be. They are playing down against teams that were a lower division in HoCo league.

Cmon - they are playing every tournament possible within 1/2 hour of home that team 9dee1 md is not playing in also.

Why would they avoid 91 md?

MM thought BR was targeting his kid.

Which is completely untrue. RR are not coached like that. MM is a complete moron.

True, but you still ran away like sissies!! Perhaps you should play M&D?
#AAfeesBtournies

Sons over Looneys 10-5 for Blue Hen 'ship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons over Looneys 10-5 for Blue Hen 'ship.

What age group?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cannons 3-0 with win over API at MadLax today.

Madlax undefeated as well. Cannons play madlax at 9am tomorrow. Championship game preview?

Wrong. Mad lax lost to API at 9am game today.

MadLax redemption over API. OT Braveheart win in semis. Headed to the 'ship

Correct! Madlax over Cannons in the 'ship 7-4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API goes to a B level tournament and finishes 2-3. The downward spiral continues. I bet the Hawks tryout registrations are coming in fast!

Only the daddy ball kids and their friends will stay. I bet their better players will be cutting ties.

True, but you still ran away like sissies!! Perhaps you should play M&D?
#AAfeesBtournies

How is making an informed decision to not play a MM coached team running away? It is the opposite. Why would any coach want their kids to be exposed to an assho*e like MM. RR found other tournaments to enter and stay as far from MM as possible.
This is suppose to be about having fun, learning and growing in lacrosse, not have some raving crazy adult yelling/screaming at one of your players as he leaves the field, and that is exactly what he did. MM is so full of himself he is going to explode one of these days.
But I guess your kid plays for MM's 2022 team. If he does, good luck with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

As they should be. They are playing down against teams that were a lower division in HoCo league.

Cmon - they are playing every tournament possible within 1/2 hour of home that team 9dee1 md is not playing in also.

Why are these teams not playing at Young Gunz ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders and fca 3-0 at the mcdonogh md lax tournament on day 1.

As they should be. They are playing down against teams that were a lower division in HoCo league.

Cmon - they are playing every tournament possible within 1/2 hour of home that team 9dee1 md is not playing in also.

Why are these teams not playing at Young Gunz ?

If you want to know so bad why don't you just contact the teams and ask.

They weren't invited

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API goes to a B level tournament and finishes 2-3. The downward spiral continues. I bet the Hawks tryout registrations are coming in fast!

API has a stalker

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API goes to a B level tournament and finishes 2-3. The downward spiral continues. I bet the Hawks tryout registrations are coming in fast!

API has a stalker

No - just karma.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API goes to a B level tournament and finishes 2-3. The downward spiral continues. I bet the Hawks tryout registrations are coming in fast!

Only the daddy ball kids and their friends will stay. I bet their better players will be cutting ties.

My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, but you still ran away like sissies!! Perhaps you should play M&D?
#AAfeesBtournies

How is making an informed decision to not play a MM coached team running away? It is the opposite. Why would any coach want their kids to be exposed to an assho*e like MM. RR found other tournaments to enter and stay as far from MM as possible.
This is suppose to be about having fun, learning and growing in lacrosse, not have some raving crazy adult yelling/screaming at one of your players as he leaves the field, and that is exactly what he did. MM is so full of himself he is going to explode one of these days.
But I guess your kid plays for MM's 2022 team. If he does, good luck with that.

What are the team's plans for next year? Millon isn't going anywhere so are you dropping out of Koopers and Hoco? Droppi g down? Sad because my son and 1 possibly 2 teammates were looking at going to RR next year. 2 start on a AA team that beat you this year. They would make a difference. We can't do it because we want to compete vs the best. We want Elite 8 instead of the Kelly Post invitational. It's a shame for all parties including us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, but you still ran away like sissies!! Perhaps you should play M&D?
#AAfeesBtournies

How is making an informed decision to not play a MM coached team running away? It is the opposite. Why would any coach want their kids to be exposed to an assho*e like MM. RR found other tournaments to enter and stay as far from MM as possible.
This is suppose to be about having fun, learning and growing in lacrosse, not have some raving crazy adult yelling/screaming at one of your players as he leaves the field, and that is exactly what he did. MM is so full of himself he is going to explode one of these days.
But I guess your kid plays for MM's 2022 team. If he does, good luck with that.

What are the team's plans for next year? Millon isn't going anywhere so are you dropping out of Koopers and Hoco? Droppi g down? Sad because my son and 1 possibly 2 teammates were looking at going to RR next year. 2 start on a AA team that beat you this year. They would make a difference. We can't do it because we want to compete vs the best. We want Elite 8 instead of the Kelly Post invitational. It's a shame for all parties including us.

Team 89+2 and API dropped out of Maryland tourney at McDonogh because RR was there. All other youth teams from both clubs were there except for the 2022 teams look it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, but you still ran away like sissies!! Perhaps you should play M&D?
#AAfeesBtournies

How is making an informed decision to not play a MM coached team running away? It is the opposite. Why would any coach want their kids to be exposed to an assho*e like MM. RR found other tournaments to enter and stay as far from MM as possible.
This is suppose to be about having fun, learning and growing in lacrosse, not have some raving crazy adult yelling/screaming at one of your players as he leaves the field, and that is exactly what he did. MM is so full of himself he is going to explode one of these days.
But I guess your kid plays for MM's 2022 team. If he does, good luck with that.

What are the team's plans for next year? Millon isn't going anywhere so are you dropping out of Koopers and Hoco? Droppi g down? Sad because my son and 1 possibly 2 teammates were looking at going to RR next year. 2 start on a AA team that beat you this year. They would make a difference. We can't do it because we want to compete vs the best. We want Elite 8 instead of the Kelly Post invitational. It's a shame for all parties including us.

Team 89+2 and API dropped out of Maryland tourney at McDonogh because RR was there. All other youth teams from both clubs were there except for the 2022 teams look it up.

Not a RR parent, but my son's team played at the McDonogh tournament and I also heard that Team 91 was originally scheduled to participate and pulled out. Never found out why. I also learned that Team 91 kids and RR kids will be playing together at another tournament this summer with some boys from my son's team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, but you still ran away like sissies!! Perhaps you should play M&D?
#AAfeesBtournies

How is making an informed decision to not play a MM coached team running away? It is the opposite. Why would any coach want their kids to be exposed to an assho*e like MM. RR found other tournaments to enter and stay as far from MM as possible.
This is suppose to be about having fun, learning and growing in lacrosse, not have some raving crazy adult yelling/screaming at one of your players as he leaves the field, and that is exactly what he did. MM is so full of himself he is going to explode one of these days.
But I guess your kid plays for MM's 2022 team. If he does, good luck with that.

What are the team's plans for next year? Millon isn't going anywhere so are you dropping out of Koopers and Hoco? Droppi g down? Sad because my son and 1 possibly 2 teammates were looking at going to RR next year. 2 start on a AA team that beat you this year. They would make a difference. We can't do it because we want to compete vs the best. We want Elite 8 instead of the Kelly Post invitational. It's a shame for all parties including us.

I would be sure that RR will again play in the same leagues next year at the AA level, like they always have. This year, after how MM acted in a Koopers league game, RR made the decision to avoid him this year, and not subject their players to an adult that acts like he did. Watch this RR team play, they are a good group of kids and during games they hardly ever get personal foul penalties, they are not coached that way, they are coached to play the game above board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API goes to a B level tournament and finishes 2-3. The downward spiral continues. I bet the Hawks tryout registrations are coming in fast!

Only the daddy ball kids and their friends will stay. I bet their better players will be cutting ties.

My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

A coach who berates kids, zone D that teaches nothiong, and now the poor summer performance? What parent in their right mind would leave their kid on this team? Lanyard forever!

Surprised to not see smash at young guns. Is there a feud with crabs? They seem to get along in NLF.

The parents wearing the sweet neck lanyards of precious are halarious.
Who does that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The parents wearing the sweet neck lanyards of precious are halarious.
Who does that?

Lots of clubs/parents do it. Not for me, but I don't see why it's the object of ridicule. Not a biggie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The parents wearing the sweet neck lanyards of precious are halarious.
Who does that?

Lots of clubs/parents do it. Not for me, but I don't see why it's the object of ridicule. Not a biggie.

Dudes in White sunglasses are worse...Just saying

Diamondbacks will lose a bunch of kids....or should I say, a bunch of kids are planning on trying out for other teams saying they want to leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks will lose a bunch of kids....or should I say, a bunch of kids are planning on trying out for other teams saying they want to leave.

Not sure if anyone wants any of those players..They may be better off staying where they are....Players got better this year and they got worse....No teams want you...Thanks

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

Diamondback got worse and the Cannons are terrible? What club gets to claim you as one of their own? Pathetic loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

But it would hurt the Hawks. Hawks don't develop players they only recruit kids. Hope your happy now because the head coach is out looking to replace you with a holdback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

Not a Hawk, but enough with the holdbacks ridicule ..stop pretending that your teams doesn't have holdbacks. every team has holdbacks at this age group. 2022. its not uncommon due to the system in place. Good luck with that when your kid gets to High School.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

hater..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

But it would hurt the Hawks. Hawks don't develop players they only recruit kids. Hope your happy now because the head coach is out looking to replace you with a holdback.

you clearly are bitter about the hawks. but to say they don't develop kids is a complete farce . there is no other club that provides more opportunity for kids to get better than the hawks. every team out there that plays them regularly can see that. which is why they are a good team. a good competitive team at every age group . not just 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

Not true. Ask for proof. Otherwise, shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The parents wearing the sweet neck lanyards of precious are halarious.
Who does that?

You know what's worse? Your spelling. It's HILARIOUS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

This forum is a cesspool of rumors and misinformation. There were two cannons that went to hawks and no holdbacks. What is wrong with you all? Why are you all so angry? If you're not happy with your team, have your kid try out somewhere else. Don't tear down or destroy another team's reputation (Hawks), and don't tear down a really good team that is having a bad year (API). These are kids! The stuff you people put on here is disgusting. If someone said these things to your kid on instagram or snapchat, you would consider it online bullying. But you get on here and just let it rip. What a horrible example. Do you think getting your insecurities out on here is going to make your kid better? Your anger and bitterness must come through and affect them. On the field and off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

Not a Hawk, but enough with the holdbacks ridicule ..stop pretending that your teams doesn't have holdbacks. every team has holdbacks at this age group. 2022. its not uncommon due to the system in place. Good luck with that when your kid gets to High School.

Generally the holdbacks are present only at the schools that encourage this behavior which is not the case for any Annapolis schools. The schools that encourage holdbacks are in Montgomery County and North Baltimore. Look at the clubs in those areas for holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

This forum is a cesspool of rumors and misinformation. There were two cannons that went to hawks and no holdbacks. What is wrong with you all? Why are you all so angry? If you're not happy with your team, have your kid try out somewhere else. Don't tear down or destroy another team's reputation (Hawks), and don't tear down a really good team that is having a bad year (API). These are kids! The stuff you people put on here is disgusting. If someone said these things to your kid on instagram or snapchat, you would consider it online bullying. But you get on here and just let it rip. What a horrible example. Do you think getting your insecurities out on here is going to make your kid better? Your anger and bitterness must come through and affect them. On the field and off.

cesspool guy is back....seems to be OK when you talk about Crabs.....practice what you preach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

This forum is a cesspool of rumors and misinformation. There were two cannons that went to hawks and no holdbacks. What is wrong with you all? Why are you all so angry? If you're not happy with your team, have your kid try out somewhere else. Don't tear down or destroy another team's reputation (Hawks), and don't tear down a really good team that is having a bad year (API). These are kids! The stuff you people put on here is disgusting. If someone said these things to your kid on instagram or snapchat, you would consider it online bullying. But you get on here and just let it rip. What a horrible example. Do you think getting your insecurities out on here is going to make your kid better? Your anger and bitterness must come through and affect them. On the field and off.

cesspool guy is back....seems to be OK when you talk about Crabs.....practice what you preach

Big Boy pants a requirement on this forum..Check feelings at the door..Sissy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

But it would hurt the Hawks. Hawks don't develop players they only recruit kids. Hope your happy now because the head coach is out looking to replace you with a holdback.

Well, he is for sure out recruiting and has been for awhile now. Expected to come to every event....saying you need to to play but he already has your replacement months ago so it doesn't matter. Seen it from 3 different sides now.

Dbacks go 0-3 this Saturday at Young Guns!

Anyone else surprised lax factory and UC Thunder invited to young guns?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else surprised lax factory and UC Thunder invited to young guns?

That is surprising. Lax Factory struggled against the two AA teams from Howard County at the Maryland Lacrosse Tournament. RR beat them 15-4 and FCA Blue beat them 8-3. Thunder beat them 9-7. Could be a long weekend for those teams.

Nope.

Thunder lost to FCA 8-6 and RR 6-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

But it would hurt the Hawks. Hawks don't develop players they only recruit kids. Hope your happy now because the head coach is out looking to replace you with a holdback.

Well, he is for sure out recruiting and has been for awhile now. Expected to come to every event....saying you need to to play but he already has your replacement months ago so it doesn't matter. Seen it from 3 different sides now.

? What does this even mean? 3 different sides?

Where is True lacrosse out of? Are they good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks Got better how? hold backs and cannons kids. Rumors cannon kids going back to cannons. Hawks only be left with the holdbacks that are not good enough to play with their true age group.

why would anyone go back to cannons? their teams always fall apart at this age and they were terrible this year. 4 kids going back isn't going to change that.

But it would hurt the Hawks. Hawks don't develop players they only recruit kids. Hope your happy now because the head coach is out looking to replace you with a holdback.

Well, he is for sure out recruiting and has been for awhile now. Expected to come to every event....saying you need to to play but he already has your replacement months ago so it doesn't matter. Seen it from 3 different sides now.

? What does this even mean? 3 different sides?

Being recruited by him....seeing my son recruited over....and hearing from families at other clubs that he is recruiting them. And it is not recruiting for tryouts either. It's "we need you next year"

But if he thinks for 1 second you aren't loyal to the Hawks.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is True lacrosse out of? Are they good?

They have teams in most of the mid west stats. If it just say True and no state after it. It is the National team. Or some form of National team

Hawks got 2 players from Cannons not 4 and they aren't going back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is True lacrosse out of? Are they good?

They have teams in most of the mid west stats. If it just say True and no state after it. It is the National team. Or some form of National team

The National team was as at NSCLA tourney and lost to rough riders and li outlaws(twice). Split with Carolina and beat rising sons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks got 2 players from Cannons not 4 and they aren't going back.

Good. Because the Hawks family likes these folks a lot

I really think most of the kids move to another club because their current clubs' coaches or teammates are perceived by the kids to be jerks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks got 2 players from Cannons not 4 and they aren't going back.

Good. Because the Hawks family likes these folks a lot

speak for yourself

How many daddy's on hawks staff? How many of them have holdback kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many daddy's on hawks staff? How many of them have holdback kids?

5-7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks got 2 players from Cannons not 4 and they aren't going back.

Good. Because the Hawks family likes these folks a lot

speak for yourself

Troll

They have at least 5 holdbacks. They have 2 kids that are 175 lbs. I know this because a buddy from college had his kid play on that team last year and told me this year they have 5 minimum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have at least 5 holdbacks. They have 2 kids that are 175 lbs. I know this because a buddy from college had his kid play on that team last year and told me this year they have 5 minimum.

Your buddy is wrong and you have no clue what you're talking about.

NO you are just lying....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have at least 5 holdbacks. They have 2 kids that are 175 lbs. I know this because a buddy from college had his kid play on that team last year and told me this year they have 5 minimum.

Smh

No clue

Can't Hawks and Dback parents just hug.
Everyone getting tired of the endless babble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have at least 5 holdbacks. They have 2 kids that are 175 lbs. I know this because a buddy from college had his kid play on that team last year and told me this year they have 5 minimum.

What does 175 lbs have to do with anything? It tells you nothing. I have a son who is 5'6" 180lbs and born in 2004 and another son born in 2002 and is 5'4 145 lbs. Kids develop differently so your size argument is a sign of your ignorance. Go back to the drawing board if you have an ax to grind against the Hawks team. I hope my son's team gets to play against these "giants" - thought we only grew them big in Texas.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have at least 5 holdbacks. They have 2 kids that are 175 lbs. I know this because a buddy from college had his kid play on that team last year and told me this year they have 5 minimum.

Only 5. No way! 16 at a minimum. I know this because my wife has a friend who had a college roommate who is from Annapolis and her friend's friend taught the entire team when they were in kindergarten. I think she said hat two of them have their own kids. Wait, these kids are adults! I mean, grown men are 175 lbs. I am now soooooo confused.....

You guys are being Idiots because no team has been very dominate over any team .Which includes all AA 2022. If you don't like your team then leave when the season is done . WHO CARES.

I love how Maryland has the largest kids. It's really amazing that the biggest kids play lacrosse. You would think they would play basketball...oh they are 2 years older than everyone else with no athleticism, so yup let them push everyone around on the lacrosse fields. What a joke!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love how Maryland has the largest kids. It's really amazing that the biggest kids play lacrosse. You would think they would play basketball...oh they are 2 years older than everyone else with no athleticism, so yup let them push everyone around on the lacrosse fields. What a joke!

Really, Maryland has the biggest kids? Pretty sure it is Pennsylvania. Yea, I am going with PA! Or maybe PA has kids that are three years older than the other kids? Who really knows but I am sticking with PA. Yup, PA unless some objects?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love how Maryland has the largest kids. It's really amazing that the biggest kids play lacrosse. You would think they would play basketball...oh they are 2 years older than everyone else with no athleticism, so yup let them push everyone around on the lacrosse fields. What a joke!

,

Your in a maryland thread [lacrosse]! Get off the thread and leave the state if you and little Johnny can't take it.

2 years older in the 6th grade? Seriously ? [lacrosse] clowns like you are that are out to hate on kids is a joke..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The parents wearing the sweet neck lanyards of precious are halarious.
Who does that?

Lots of clubs/parents do it. Not for me, but I don't see why it's the object of ridicule. Not a biggie.

What are you talking about? What are on lanyards?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love how Maryland has the largest kids. It's really amazing that the biggest kids play lacrosse. You would think they would play basketball...oh they are 2 years older than everyone else with no athleticism, so yup let them push everyone around on the lacrosse fields. What a joke!

,

Your in a maryland thread [lacrosse]! Get off the thread and leave the state if you and little Johnny can't take it.

2 years older in the 6th grade? Seriously ? [lacrosse] clowns like you are that are out to hate on kids is a joke..

He was just using some sarcasm to show that Maryland Lacrosse along with a couple other holdback areas have become a joke. Most areas including Maryland send their biggest and best athletics to the money sports. Basketball,football, baseball. But somehow MD sends its giants to Lacrosse. LOL.. Holdback most average to decent kids a year or two and and he transforms into a good player in youth sports. Nothing like dominating younger kids...LOL .. Got to give credit to MD parents. It is ok to holdback your kid and play down as everyone is doing it now!! LOL..

Precious....Silly....

The Madlax / Cannons combo team looked good at young guns today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dbacks go 0-3 this Saturday at Young Guns!

Not today. 3-0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Madlax / Cannons combo team looked good at young guns today.

Not really Hawks beat them.

Madlax dad who coaches his own son lost his mind several times today.

dBacks with a Big Win against LI Express today.

Great games at young guns today.

I love all the DBacks coaches.

Dbacks win 8-7 vs A teams?

How was sweet perm dad today?

Dbacks coach should stick to bar tending.

Amazing how Crabs made playoffs when the in pool tie breaker went to Igloo and Freedom. If you include the out of pool games (Crabs vs. Lax Factory - B team)), (Freedom vs. Bethesda - AA team), and (Igloo vs. Rising Sons - AA team), only then does Crabs make it. Very shady! Freedom got shafted.

The only reason Lax Factory was playing against AA teams is because Crabs did not "invite" enough AA teams to their tournament.

Crabs can only prop up this 2022 team so long before the replace all of them with holdbacks.

My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

dBacks with a Big Win against LI Express today.

Amazing world of 12 year old lacrosse. Diamondbacks beat LI Express - probably the best 2022 team in the country by 3, then only beat UC Thunder - a B level team, by 1 goal. Crazy fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

For someone that hides behind no curtains, you also show up as anonymous. You can register and log in with your name if you really are who you say you are. Troll?

Not sure how anyone can come on here and bash teams that have dad coaches or a team that consistently WINs year in and year out. With dad coaches whom are more then qualified to be coaches at any level of youth lacrosse. And I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the top 4 teams in this state have dad coaches,
Dbacks, 89+1, Hawks and Madlax..
Good luck when you leave your team that has daddy ball and move to a better team that doesn't have daddy ball..

It's so comical and flat out sad to bash your own coaches. These sidelines all talk and the REAL community of parents don't want you or your [lacrosse] .

Kudos to API:Dbacks for a good day and beating a team that hasn't lost a tournament game summer and might be the best team out there for 2022. (Might be).,
Not an API parent but a parent on the sideline that enjoys good lacrosse ..

than show up tomorrow and see what's really behind the curtain.
your a Big P and will stay hidden.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how Crabs made playoffs when the in pool tie breaker went to Igloo and Freedom. If you include the out of pool games (Crabs vs. Lax Factory - B team)), (Freedom vs. Bethesda - AA team), and (Igloo vs. Rising Sons - AA team), only then does Crabs make it. Very shady! Freedom got shafted.

The only reason Lax Factory was playing against AA teams is because Crabs did not "invite" enough AA teams to their tournament.

Crabs can only prop up this 2022 team so long before the replace all of them with holdbacks.

Freedom lost to Crabs so they have no one to blame but themselves...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

When you don't see us at tryouts, you probably still won't know who said it because we aren't alone in making alternative plans for next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Madlax / Cannons combo team looked good at young guns today.

Not really Hawks beat them.

The Hawks have practiced 500 times this year and played a million games together and are soooo great yet you say Maflax didnt play well because Hawks beat them by 1. Suspect

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Madlax / Cannons combo team looked good at young guns today.

Not really Hawks beat them.

The Hawks have practiced 500 times this year and played a million games together and are soooo great yet you say Maflax didnt play well because Hawks beat them by 1. Suspect

Didn't realize there was something wrong with practice and playing games. At least they are getting their monies worth.

Good Job Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

When you don't see us at tryouts, you probably still won't know who said it because we aren't alone in making alternative plans for next year.

Arden Head Coach? Big talk for the biggest cry baby in the league. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Madlax / Cannons combo team looked good at young guns today.

Not really Hawks beat them.

The Hawks have practiced 500 times this year and played a million games together and are soooo great yet you say Maflax didnt play well because Hawks beat them by 1. Suspect

Good thing Madlax picked up some Cannons players. The score would've been different if they didn't.

Sounds like Madlax needs to add some practices and games so they can win a one goal game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

dBacks with a Big Win against LI Express today.

Amazing world of 12 year old lacrosse. Diamondbacks beat LI Express - probably the best 2022 team in the country by 3, then only beat UC Thunder - a B level team, by 1 goal. Crazy fun to watch.

Best 22 team in country? Funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

When you don't see us at tryouts, you probably still won't know who said it because we aren't alone in making alternative plans for next year.

Madlax goes down 3 times in one tournament. More practice and Cannons needed. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

When you don't see us at tryouts, you probably still won't know who said it because we aren't alone in making alternative plans for next year.

Arden Head Coach? Big talk for the biggest cry baby in the league. Lol

Diamondbacks coach ejected from playoff game. Totally lost it on incompetent officials.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

When you don't see us at tryouts, you probably still won't know who said it because we aren't alone in making alternative plans for next year.

Arden Head Coach? Big talk for the biggest cry baby in the league. Lol

Diamondbacks coach ejected from playoff game. Totally lost it on incompetent officials.

Wow

What a display. And he complains about other coaches. Joke

Have a drink

History repeats itself with ole dbag coach.
Isn't he the director of the entire club.
Keep it classy Dbacks.
At least you have matching coffee tumbler mugs and the dad's who rock team gear just like precious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how Crabs made playoffs when the in pool tie breaker went to Igloo and Freedom. If you include the out of pool games (Crabs vs. Lax Factory - B team)), (Freedom vs. Bethesda - AA team), and (Igloo vs. Rising Sons - AA team), only then does Crabs make it. Very shady! Freedom got shafted.

The only reason Lax Factory was playing against AA teams is because Crabs did not "invite" enough AA teams to their tournament.

Crabs can only prop up this 2022 team so long before the replace all of them with holdbacks.

How did freedom get shafted when they lost to Crabs? so not only did Crabs have tiebreaker in goals against and goal differential, but they also won the head to head. Seems fair to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how Crabs made playoffs when the in pool tie breaker went to Igloo and Freedom. If you include the out of pool games (Crabs vs. Lax Factory - B team)), (Freedom vs. Bethesda - AA team), and (Igloo vs. Rising Sons - AA team), only then does Crabs make it. Very shady! Freedom got shafted.

The only reason Lax Factory was playing against AA teams is because Crabs did not "invite" enough AA teams to their tournament.

Crabs can only prop up this 2022 team so long before the replace all of them with holdbacks.

How did freedom get shafted when they lost to Crabs? so not only did Crabs have tiebreaker in goals against and goal differential, but they also won the head to head. Seems fair to me.

Crabs lost to Igloo, Igloo lost to Freedom, Freedom lost to Crabs. What is a fair way to decide who advances? How about goals against for common opponents? Sound fair right? Not to Crabs to played a B level team that should have never been in the AA division while Igloo and Freedom play AA teams straight up.

It wound up the same in the end because Crabs had to play Igloo again and again Igloo beat them easily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how Crabs made playoffs when the in pool tie breaker went to Igloo and Freedom. If you include the out of pool games (Crabs vs. Lax Factory - B team)), (Freedom vs. Bethesda - AA team), and (Igloo vs. Rising Sons - AA team), only then does Crabs make it. Very shady! Freedom got shafted.

The only reason Lax Factory was playing against AA teams is because Crabs did not "invite" enough AA teams to their tournament.

Crabs can only prop up this 2022 team so long before the replace all of them with holdbacks.

Freedom lost to Crabs so they have no one to blame but themselves...

Freedom played back to back games before the Crabs even showed up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how Crabs made playoffs when the in pool tie breaker went to Igloo and Freedom. If you include the out of pool games (Crabs vs. Lax Factory - B team)), (Freedom vs. Bethesda - AA team), and (Igloo vs. Rising Sons - AA team), only then does Crabs make it. Very shady! Freedom got shafted.

The only reason Lax Factory was playing against AA teams is because Crabs did not "invite" enough AA teams to their tournament.

Crabs can only prop up this 2022 team so long before the replace all of them with holdbacks.

How did freedom get shafted when they lost to Crabs? so not only did Crabs have tiebreaker in goals against and goal differential, but they also won the head to head. Seems fair to me.

seems fair? did you look at the brackets at all for this tournament and who the crabs had to play verse the other elite teams in this tourney. it was a sad joke . Freedom played back to back games before the Crabs even got to the fields to play Lax factory at 11. does that really seem fair?

who won it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who won it?

Hawks - their toughest game was in the 1st playoff game against LI express. Diamondbacks and Igloo were a little easier. All tough competition. No better competition at a tourney than young guns. Shame 88+3 boycotts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who won it?

Hawks - their toughest game was in the 1st playoff game against LI express. Diamondbacks and Igloo were a little easier. All tough competition. No better competition at a tourney than young guns. Shame 88+3 boycotts.

Totally agree - Young Guns had the best competition of the summer. Hawks a deserving champ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who won it?

Hawks - their toughest game was in the 1st playoff game against LI express. Diamondbacks and Igloo were a little easier. All tough competition. No better competition at a tourney than young guns. Shame 88+3 boycotts.

Totally agree - Young Guns had the best competition of the summer. Hawks a deserving champ.

yup.....one of the most legit tournaments of the summer......Winners have something to brag about.....Say what you will about Crabs...They a great tournament and play no favors to their own teams like other tournaments....

Are you kidding me with the size of these Maryland kids! I find it border line dangerous how they are manipulating age requirements. If it was one or two or three kids .... Ok.

I am having a hard time believing that as a whole Maryland grows bigger kids then NY, NJ and CONN.

Why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.
Money talks!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.
Money talks!!

I've heard making a claim on USL insurance is impossible and that everything is rejected out of hand. Anyone ever make a successful claim out there ?

Every team has 1,2,3,kids that are bigger .Every team from NY to Texas this weekend and every weekend . please stop with the 2 years older manipulation crap. If you want to continue to make excuses for your kid than go get some proof of your accusations . its pretty easy to do. ask for a roster check, go to the club in questions director. and while your at it make sure you have all of your teams 03 and 04 kids info . the bigger and smaller ones. All good competitive teams this summer from all over at this age group,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.
Money talks!!

2 years older is a stretch for this age group. boys all grow at different rates. Might be time to find a different sport for your kid to play. What excuse will you have for them in High School . 03 and 04 b-days are well within the rules of ALL leagues and 2022 tourneys. So enough of the cry baby chatter because you are a sore loser. EVERY single 2022 team is the same. whether they have 1 or 5. they are 12 and just kids. BIG and SMALL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you kidding me with the size of these Maryland kids! I find it border line dangerous how they are manipulating age requirements. If it was one or two or three kids .... Ok.

I am having a hard time believing that as a whole Maryland grows bigger kids then NY, NJ and CONN.

Yes you are kidding yourself if you can make a statement like that ! A state grows kids bigger? Maybe you haven't been watching much be Every team this weekend had at least 2 kids that could be considered 'bigger'.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you kidding me with the size of these Maryland kids! I find it border line dangerous how they are manipulating age requirements. If it was one or two or three kids .... Ok.

I am having a hard time believing that as a whole Maryland grows bigger kids then NY, NJ and CONN.

Yes you are kidding yourself if you can make a statement like that ! A state grows kids bigger? Maybe you haven't been watching much be Every team this weekend had at least 2 kids that could be considered 'bigger'.

The biggest kid I saw was that express goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you kidding me with the size of these Maryland kids! I find it border line dangerous how they are manipulating age requirements. If it was one or two or three kids .... Ok.

I am having a hard time believing that as a whole Maryland grows bigger kids then NY, NJ and CONN.

Yes you are kidding yourself if you can make a statement like that ! A state grows kids bigger? Maybe you haven't been watching much be Every team this weekend had at least 2 kids that could be considered 'bigger'.

The biggest kid I saw was that express goalie.

the 2 so biggest kids all summer are both from NY teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

When you don't see us at tryouts, you probably still won't know who said it because we aren't alone in making alternative plans for next year.

Arden Head Coach? Big talk for the biggest cry baby in the league. Lol

Diamondbacks coach ejected from playoff game. Totally lost it on incompetent officials.

Wow

What a display. And he complains about other coaches. Joke

Have a drink

Both sidelines for that teamAPI should be ashamed to act that way in front of their boys. Fathers yelling at their kids angry. Poor goalies dad acting like an complete [lacrosse] every single game. All 10 coaches yelling on the field at kids at the same time. The same time the kids are being yelled at by their own dads..Felt bad for those kids who are very talented and hard working. Their coaches and parents let them down.

90% of Maryland's population isn't short, fat eyetalians like Long Island so basic genetics would tell you MD people will be tallerD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My kid plays for api 2022 and the daddy ball is out of control. The whole situation is embarrassing.

Well.. I am the head coach for api diamoandbacks and hide behind no curtain. This is cowardly and I want you to just walk up to me on the field and say " I am the one that posted this about daddy ball".. I guarantee you don't have the balls to do it.. cmon ...you know where I will be, man up, or get your wife to do it. I will be at the field early waiting if you want to see me. probably don't have what it takes. Sad... hide behind an anonymous name. COWARD, BTW lax is a small world and nobody wants you on a real team if you can't handle it. Just be a man for once!

When you don't see us at tryouts, you probably still won't know who said it because we aren't alone in making alternative plans for next year.

Arden Head Coach? Big talk for the biggest cry baby in the league. Lol

Diamondbacks coach ejected from playoff game. Totally lost it on incompetent officials.

Wow

What a display. And he complains about other coaches. Joke

Have a drink

Both sidelines for that teamAPI should be ashamed to act that way in front of their boys. Fathers yelling at their kids angry. Poor goalies dad acting like an complete [lacrosse] every single game. All 10 coaches yelling on the field at kids at the same time. The same time the kids are being yelled at by their own dads..Felt bad for those kids who are very talented and hard working. Their coaches and parents let them down.

No coincidence the Hawks have gotten better since API goalie father not on Hawks. Lunatic doesn't begin to describe him. There is no way the kid has any fun playing the game with that nut around.

Hawks got better this year with holdbacks. Take away holdbacks they average at best. HC kid is a holdback add 5 more to the mix you have a good team. Take away holdbacks again average at best. Don't believe in holdbacks why do Hawks players play up in football and basketball because it is age not grade base. Give me any good 5 holdbacks and put a true 2022 team that team becomes great.

Hawks and Dbags have some incestry thing going on.
No one will be talking about them next year with other clubs on the rise.
Enjoy your swag and tumbler mugs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks got better this year with holdbacks. Take away holdbacks they average at best. HC kid is a holdback add 5 more to the mix you have a good team. Take away holdbacks again average at best. Don't believe in holdbacks why do Hawks players play up in football and basketball because it is age not grade base. Give me any good 5 holdbacks and put a true 2022 team that team becomes great.

So who are the other 5? It is ok, you started accusing particular players and families, don't stop at one. Who are they? And are you sure it is just 5? Cmon, you can do it, or can you?

I guess Maryland brothers and sisters sleeping together does something different to the gene pool!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks and Dbags have some incestry thing going on.
No one will be talking about them next year with other clubs on the rise.
Enjoy your swag and tumbler mugs.

Complete haterz;; keepmakoing excuses for your kid. it will make him exactly what you are .. a [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks and Dbags have some incestry thing going on.
No one will be talking about them next year with other clubs on the rise.
Enjoy your swag and tumbler mugs.

swag and tumbler mugs? you sound like like a team that doesn't sell gear or a team that has been owned by both teams . or that is flat out jealous ..

keep up the great comments about inferrer teams than the one your kid plays on . keep that helicopter hovering ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks got better this year with holdbacks. Take away holdbacks they average at best. HC kid is a holdback add 5 more to the mix you have a good team. Take away holdbacks again average at best. Don't believe in holdbacks why do Hawks players play up in football and basketball because it is age not grade base. Give me any good 5 holdbacks and put a true 2022 team that team becomes great.

hawks have barely changed there squad in 2 years, if you are up on the teams around maryland. Holdbacks are on every team including yours which is perfectly legal in the 12 year old world of lacrosse.
Take your son and go to another state and see if it is any better. I assume your son doesn't play basketball at this age where so called bigger kids are often the youngest kid on team. as is the case for the teams you bash on here. your ignorance is speaks volumes about your envy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks got better this year with holdbacks. Take away holdbacks they average at best. HC kid is a holdback add 5 more to the mix you have a good team. Take away holdbacks again average at best. Don't believe in holdbacks why do Hawks players play up in football and basketball because it is age not grade base. Give me any good 5 holdbacks and put a true 2022 team that team becomes great.

sounds like a real sore loser. pathetic. save it for your wife.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks got better this year with holdbacks. Take away holdbacks they average at best. HC kid is a holdback add 5 more to the mix you have a good team. Take away holdbacks again average at best. Don't believe in holdbacks why do Hawks players play up in football and basketball because it is age not grade base. Give me any good 5 holdbacks and put a true 2022 team that team becomes great.

don't come here talking [lacrosse] because you are a sore loser . and really don't come on here acting like you're team doesn't have any holdbacks . you are pathetic with that excuse and i hope you keep feeding your kids that crap. they grow up just like you. pathetic.

Congrats to Legacy on great tournament this past weekend. When you trim some of the fat good things happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks got better this year with holdbacks. Take away holdbacks they average at best. HC kid is a holdback add 5 more to the mix you have a good team. Take away holdbacks again average at best. Don't believe in holdbacks why do Hawks players play up in football and basketball because it is age not grade base. Give me any good 5 holdbacks and put a true 2022 team that team becomes great.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Hawks don't have 5 holdbacks, their big kids are just big for their age. They play other sports with kids that they played lacrosse against this weekend (and kids from all teams exhibited great sportsmanship). Don't believe it then go ask your coach for their roster. But don't spout lies trying to take something away from kids that worked hard just to make yourself feel better. Hawks won Young Guns last year too. There were a lot of great games all year at this age, be happy that the kids all made each other better.

Where are Hawks this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are Hawks this weekend?

I believe the Hawks are done for the year. Their web site does not have anything listed past Young Guns. Must be nice to have some of the summer back!

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

So now we see where the Hawks are playing....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

From a talent perspective, the NXT is nothing more than a glorified rec tournament. Why do they need guest players to give them a boost?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

So now we see where the Hawks are playing....

This is funny because its true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

From a talent perspective, the NXT is nothing more than a glorified rec tournament. Why do they need guest players to give them a boost?

Agreed that 80% of the teams in the top division are not AA teams, but there are 5 or so teams that can play against the best. (Igloo, Smash, United, Diamondbacks, 88+3 MD). All of them are looking for an edge.

For a rec tournament it seems like there are a lot of really good teams at this event...Guess ur son isnt playing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For a rec tournament it seems like there are a lot of really good teams at this event...Guess ur son isnt playing

yawn... Only 2 of the team's mentioned are elite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For a rec tournament it seems like there are a lot of really good teams at this event...Guess ur son isnt playing

yawn... Only 2 of the team's mentioned are elite.

Go back to sleep. You're nauseating with your elite assessments of 12 year old.

Looks like Madlax and 3D have the best shot at taking Hogan Hershey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

That's nice. The kids who have been working hard all year are going to be on the bench watching some guest players get time just so daddy can try to get his team a trophy this year. Talk about not developing players. Let's just hope that coach doesn't get thrown off the field again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

That's nice. The kids who have been working hard all year are going to be on the bench watching some guest players get time just so daddy can try to get his team a trophy this year. Talk about not developing players. Let's just hope that coach doesn't get thrown off the field again.

Heard they asked both Hawks goalies and 3 or 4 field kids. Not sure who is going?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

That's nice. The kids who have been working hard all year are going to be on the bench watching some guest players get time just so daddy can try to get his team a trophy this year. Talk about not developing players. Let's just hope that coach doesn't get thrown off the field again.

Heard they asked both Hawks goalies and 3 or 4 field kids. Not sure who is going?

Maybe they should have just asked the entire hawks team. They might win something then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

That's nice. The kids who have been working hard all year are going to be on the bench watching some guest players get time just so daddy can try to get his team a trophy this year. Talk about not developing players. Let's just hope that coach doesn't get thrown off the field again.

Heard they asked both Hawks goalies and 3 or 4 field kids. Not sure who is going?

Maybe they should have just asked the entire hawks team. They might win something then.

Stop. Never happened. You know nothing anonymous poster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

That's nice. The kids who have been working hard all year are going to be on the bench watching some guest players get time just so daddy can try to get his team a trophy this year. Talk about not developing players. Let's just hope that coach doesn't get thrown off the field again.

Heard they asked both Hawks goalies and 3 or 4 field kids. Not sure who is going?

Maybe they should have just asked the entire hawks team. They might win something then.

Stop. Never happened. You know nothing anonymous poster

Do the guest players' dads have to become guest coaches as well?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D-Backs gonna roll this weekend at NXT....Some guest players from local teams will give them a boost

That's nice. The kids who have been working hard all year are going to be on the bench watching some guest players get time just so daddy can try to get his team a trophy this year. Talk about not developing players. Let's just hope that coach doesn't get thrown off the field again.

Heard they asked both Hawks goalies and 3 or 4 field kids. Not sure who is going?

Maybe they should have just asked the entire hawks team. They might win something then.

Stop. Never happened. You know nothing anonymous poster

Do the guest players' dads have to become guest coaches as well?

Guest lanyards?

You guys are crazy. Dbacks would never invite kids from Hawks to play with them.

More sweet neck lanyards of precious are coming to fields near you.
You can tell who the guests are because they don't have matching coffee tumbler mugs and their dad's won't be wearing matching team gear.

^^^^Yet another [lacrosse] speaks^^^^^^^

MM critical of Diamondback's zone defense on Twitter.

who won today?

MM is mad because Dbacks shut their offense down today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM critical of Diamondback's zone defense on Twitter.

BR (Rough Riders) posts agreement. Igloo (KC) coach retweets. I guess they all hate the dback zone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM critical of Diamondback's zone defense on Twitter.

sounds like he was out coached again! Sore loser. Maybe next year don't go around saying you have the best 2022 team in the country before you even have a try out.To blast a coach that has won a ton of games and championships at this level for years , and a coach that you will face for many years ahead is immature and uncalled for.
not sure what is worse , those remarks or the Dbacks head coach getting thrown out of a game foe losing his mind at the refs last week. GREAT PLAYER DEVELOPMENT! how about showing these young men about good character in winning and losing.
2 tryouts my son will not be attending sole on these 2 incidents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM critical of Diamondback's zone defense on Twitter.

Agree with him 100%. That dback team doesn't develop players at all. That's why they didn't win anything this year, and why they had to bring in players from another club to try to win this weekend. Ironic that the API catch phrase is total player development when this team does none of that. Coaching is non existent.

Both teams in championship-united and dbacks run nothing but defense. United never plays man. Not developing kids properly. But hey...they do win those 6th grade tournaments though. And to MM and the rest..stop whining and beat them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Madlax and 3D have the best shot at taking Hogan Hershey.

Madlax over 3D to take Hershey championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM is mad because Dbacks shut their offense down today.

Now MM is going to introduce the no zone defense rule in his Elite 8 tournament next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM critical of Diamondback's zone defense on Twitter.

Can't touch his kid now can't play zone defense against his team. What is next? MM great player great coach not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM critical of Diamondback's zone defense on Twitter.

BR (Rough Riders) posts agreement. Igloo (KC) coach retweets. I guess they all hate the dback zone.

Yeah BR teaches his kids how to chop wood.

So, BR is supporting MM now? Does that mean they've kissed and made up? Aww, that's sweet.

Have seen MM's team run zone D on multiple occasions. What a hypocrite.

Latest MM quote "The truly great youth sports programs don't "play to win the game" they play to develop the player. In many cases the winning comes along."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Latest MM quote "The truly great youth sports programs don't "play to win the game" they play to develop the player. In many cases the winning comes along."

More BS since MM got owned today on both sides of the field.
Zone press requires more athleticism and forces each player to move in sync. �Zone� means you are playing good defense in whichever �zone� that you happen to be in.You also MUST be able to play good man-to-man defense in order to be able to play a zone defense. That�s both on and off ball. If you can�t you are going to get beat for goals all over the place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Latest MM quote "The truly great youth sports programs don't "play to win the game" they play to develop the player. In many cases the winning comes along."

More BS since MM got owned today on both sides of the field.
Zone press requires more athleticism and forces each player to move in sync. �Zone� means you are playing good defense in whichever �zone� that you happen to be in.You also MUST be able to play good man-to-man defense in order to be able to play a zone defense. That�s both on and off ball. If you can�t you are going to get beat for goals all over the place.

It's what you do when you don't have a solid line of defenders also. At this age, there aren't a slew of shooters who are going to beat a soft zone with a shot from just inside the restraining box. It is a great way to win games and cover up for defensive deficiencies, but MM is right that it doesn't develop young players. 1 goal / game in championship vs. Hawks and DBs for 88+3 sounds like poor coaching despite his point about DBs zone.

Do the truly great youth sports programs also f-bomb and berate their young players MM?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do the truly great youth sports programs also f-bomb and berate their young players MM?

That never happened, but the API coach did get tossed from youth lacrosse game. See you at Hawks tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Latest MM quote "The truly great youth sports programs don't "play to win the game" they play to develop the player. In many cases the winning comes along."

More BS since MM got owned today on both sides of the field.
Zone press requires more athleticism and forces each player to move in sync. �Zone� means you are playing good defense in whichever �zone� that you happen to be in.You also MUST be able to play good man-to-man defense in order to be able to play a zone defense. That�s both on and off ball. If you can�t you are going to get beat for goals all over the place.

It's what you do when you don't have a solid line of defenders also. At this age, there aren't a slew of shooters who are going to beat a soft zone with a shot from just inside the restraining box. It is a great way to win games and cover up for defensive deficiencies, but MM is right that it doesn't develop young players. 1 goal / game in championship vs. Hawks and DBs for 88+3 sounds like poor coaching despite his point about DBs zone.

How does it not develop players? High schools and colleges don't run zone? Zone increases their IQ better than man.

Ok. Your parents are liars then. Got it.

If you play zone in youth lacrosse, you have completely given up on teaching the defensive skills that kids will need to play high school lacrosse. If your kid is on a team that plays zone, your kid is not being taught and you should look for a new home.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you play zone in youth lacrosse, you have completely given up on teaching the defensive skills that kids will need to play high school lacrosse. If your kid is on a team that plays zone, your kid is not being taught and you should look for a new home.

That's a ridiculous statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]If you play zone in youth lacrosse, you have completely given up on teaching the defensive skills that kids will need to play high school lacrosse. If your kid is on a team that plays zone, your kid is not being taught and you should look for a new home.

That's a ridiculous statement. [/quote

Agreed. This is sour grapes from coaches who weren't ready for zone. All HS and College teams run zone. It's increasing IQ. Need to know how to play both!

So much criticism on this board, but I'm curious who people think are the best coaches in this class and why. This is a serious question. All else being equal, who would you want your kid to play for other than his own coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you play zone in youth lacrosse, you have completely given up on teaching the defensive skills that kids will need to play high school lacrosse. If your kid is on a team that plays zone, your kid is not being taught and you should look for a new home.

So if a coach does not have his poles chasing the guy with the ball behind to X his a a bad coach? What if your team plays a match up style of Zone is that a bad coach? So if a coach see his team has slower foot speed then the team his is playing and switches to a zone he is a bad coach? I thought this game like basketball is all about match ups and realizing when a guy is slower or faster then you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you play zone in youth lacrosse, you have completely given up on teaching the defensive skills that kids will need to play high school lacrosse. If your kid is on a team that plays zone, your kid is not being taught and you should look for a new home.

That's a ridiculous statement.

Not really. Zone isnt the best way to get gameday man to man defense for youth .
If your youth team is using Zone for all of its games. You arent getting the skills that a man to man defense would for young players.
There is time for Zone, man down, a vastly fast superior team . ...but it should be limited as anyone with any common sense knows man to man is a better way to teach youth the right defensive skills.
On a side note..The MIAA teams played much more Zone this year than I have seen in years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you play zone in youth lacrosse, you have completely given up on teaching the defensive skills that kids will need to play high school lacrosse. If your kid is on a team that plays zone, your kid is not being taught and you should look for a new home.

That's a ridiculous statement.

Not really. Zone isnt the best way to get gameday man to man defense for youth .
If your youth team is using Zone for all of its games. You arent getting the skills that a man to man defense would for young players.
There is time for Zone, man down, a vastly fast superior team . ...but it should be limited as anyone with any common sense knows man to man is a better way to teach youth the right defensive skills.
On a side note..The MIAA teams played much more Zone this year than I have seen in years.

So lets look at this full circle does the team in question only run a base boring basic zone 100% of the time or did they just use it to win a big game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you play zone in youth lacrosse, you have completely given up on teaching the defensive skills that kids will need to play high school lacrosse. If your kid is on a team that plays zone, your kid is not being taught and you should look for a new home.

That's a ridiculous statement.

Not really. Zone isnt the best way to get gameday man to man defense for youth .
If your youth team is using Zone for all of its games. You arent getting the skills that a man to man defense would for young players.
There is time for Zone, man down, a vastly fast superior team . ...but it should be limited as anyone with any common sense knows man to man is a better way to teach youth the right defensive skills.
On a side note..The MIAA teams played much more Zone this year than I have seen in years.

So lets look at this full circle does the team in question only run a base boring basic zone 100% of the time or did they just use it to win a big game?

My son's team played them 4 times this year and 100% zone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you play zone in youth lacrosse, you have completely given up on teaching the defensive skills that kids will need to play high school lacrosse. If your kid is on a team that plays zone, your kid is not being taught and you should look for a new home.

So if a coach does not have his poles chasing the guy with the ball behind to X his a a bad coach? What if your team plays a match up style of Zone is that a bad coach? So if a coach see his team has slower foot speed then the team his is playing and switches to a zone he is a bad coach? I thought this game like basketball is all about match ups and realizing when a guy is slower or faster then you?

Or maybe the cry baby coach could use the opportunity to develop his offensive players on how to beat a zone. Pretty poor development if you only run sets against a man and never teach you team how to defeat the zone. Sound like an excuse by someone who got out coached and has his team ill prepared.

Millon has a point if they play all zone. Like always playing zone in youth hoops. Gotta learn man to man 1st and zone as change of pace or special situation

But I wonder what his corporate partners at T91 in NY think about his tweet. Played Spallina's 2023 Bandit team a few years ago in u9. They were playing backer zone. Couldn't believe it. Think about trying to explain a zone offense in a 30 second timeout to 2nd and 3rd graders.

Also played Millon's Tyker team that year when the penalties were a fast break rather than timed. He had his best player take the ball each time, dodge the point man and the slide to shoot. Unfortunately an effective strategy on my team that day but he certainly was not "getting kids ready for the next level"

hypocrite

I guess this does not sound good for them. Do they at least play a aggressive style Zone? Is it at least like a 5 and one style zone with one guy pressing the ball. Or do they just pack it in and dare you to shoot 15 to 20 foot shots?

MM team gave up 9 goals lost maybe they should play Zone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM team gave up 9 goals lost maybe they should play Zone.

and 12 to Hawks in Summer Exp. champ game. 2 goals on offense in 2 champ games guess we will see 9d1 kids at other tryouts in a few weeks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon has a point if they play all zone. Like always playing zone in youth hoops. Gotta learn man to man 1st and zone as change of pace or special situation

But I wonder what his corporate partners at T91 in NY think about his tweet. Played Spallina's 2023 Bandit team a few years ago in u9. They were playing backer zone. Couldn't believe it. Think about trying to explain a zone offense in a 30 second timeout to 2nd and 3rd graders.

Also played Millon's Tyker team that year when the penalties were a fast break rather than timed. He had his best player take the ball each time, dodge the point man and the slide to shoot. Unfortunately an effective strategy on my team that day but he certainly was not "getting kids ready for the next level"

hypocrite

Someone posted United played 100% zone also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon has a point if they play all zone. Like always playing zone in youth hoops. Gotta learn man to man 1st and zone as change of pace or special situation

But I wonder what his corporate partners at T91 in NY think about his tweet. Played Spallina's 2023 Bandit team a few years ago in u9. They were playing backer zone. Couldn't believe it. Think about trying to explain a zone offense in a 30 second timeout to 2nd and 3rd graders.

Also played Millon's Tyker team that year when the penalties were a fast break rather than timed. He had his best player take the ball each time, dodge the point man and the slide to shoot. Unfortunately an effective strategy on my team that day but he certainly was not "getting kids ready for the next level"

hypocrite

Someone posted United played 100% zone also.

And they went undefeated!! What's the problem? Those players are capable of playing man or zone. Great well coached team and well deserved championship. (they beat my sons team)

No one is concearned about reclass, double reclass, guest players or crazy parents? Zone is where we draw the line in the sand??

Millon just upset he got outcoached and beat again. The best 2020 team in the nation is 91 Crush from LI, they play zone all the time. Maybe Millon should talk to his 91 LI partners and try to convince them otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess this does not sound good for them. Do they at least play a aggressive style Zone? Is it at least like a 5 and one style zone with one guy pressing the ball. Or do they just pack it in and dare you to shoot 15 to 20 foot shots?

We played them 3 or 4 times this year. I will say their starting package defenders are good and fast. They all press out a lot. I was surprised those kids didnt get confused with that coach yelling push, hold, no push... That guy is loud. Overall kids have good footwork, solid fundamentals and speed. It might be the games I watched but goalies were meh..so zone may not be he best for them in that regard.

From the API Diamondback Website:

2016-2017 CLUB SEASON
Middle School Teams (2023-2021)
� Non-Parent Head Coaches

Some changes coming in coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the API Diamondback Website:

2016-2017 CLUB SEASON
Middle School Teams (2023-2021)
� Non-Parent Head Coaches

Some changes coming in coaching?

I wonder what all those dads are going to say now about how great their team is..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the API Diamondback Website:

2016-2017 CLUB SEASON
Middle School Teams (2023-2021)
� Non-Parent Head Coaches

Some changes coming in coaching?

I wonder what all those dads are going to say now about how great their team is..

this is great news

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the API Diamondback Website:

2016-2017 CLUB SEASON
Middle School Teams (2023-2021)
� Non-Parent Head Coaches

Some changes coming in coaching?

I wonder what all those dads are going to say now about how great their team is..

this is great news

Figure head HC for 2022 with the 11 daddy ball assistants calling the shots. Can you please hire the goalie's dad so we don't have to hear him on the sideline??!!?!

Sorry guys nothing will change as coaching at API/ Dbacks but maybe the daddy assistants coaches but let's talk about something That is true . The WSYL just went to a 9-1 cut off on age plus a 100 mile radius from Home Base . I guess no flying in players from Texas to play ..

Sorry lime green dad but nothing is more amusing than talking about a club director that gets tossed from games for behavior, dad's in matching team gear and coffee tumbler mugs, and the moms with sweet neck lanyards of precious that aggressively flirt with opposing team dads rocking 18-packs. Please don't change. We feel important.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry lime green dad but nothing is more amusing than talking about a club director that gets tossed from games for behavior, dad's in matching team gear and coffee tumbler mugs, and the moms with sweet neck lanyards of precious that aggressively flirt with opposing team dads rocking 18-packs. Please don't change. We feel important.

now that is funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry guys nothing will change as coaching at API/ Dbacks but maybe the daddy assistants coaches but let's talk about something That is true . The WSYL just went to a 9-1 cut off on age plus a 100 mile radius from Home Base . I guess no flying in players from Texas to play ..

where is that posted?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry guys nothing will change as coaching at API/ Dbacks but maybe the daddy assistants coaches but let's talk about something That is true . The WSYL just went to a 9-1 cut off on age plus a 100 mile radius from Home Base . I guess no flying in players from Texas to play ..

where is that posted?

100 mile radius has always been the rule.

Not same rules - was 5/1 cutoff and many Maryland teams were too old to play - even when was 5/1 - crabs and hawks - for example. So Maryland teams won't be able to play with holdbacks and my teams will have fewer 8th graders eligible than this past year. If were 9/1 this past year teams would have looked very different in Denver. Seems like a fair approach.

I saw in the rules it says 5-1 cutoff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not same rules - was 5/1 cutoff and many Maryland teams were too old to play - even when was 5/1 - crabs and hawks - for example. So Maryland teams won't be able to play with holdbacks and my teams will have fewer 8th graders eligible than this past year. If were 9/1 this past year teams would have looked very different in Denver. Seems like a fair approach.

The wsyl website still says 5/1.

Not sure where you are seeing 9/1 - rules page still says 5/1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not same rules - was 5/1 cutoff and many Maryland teams were too old to play - even when was 5/1 - crabs and hawks - for example. So Maryland teams won't be able to play with holdbacks and my teams will have fewer 8th graders eligible than this past year. If were 9/1 this past year teams would have looked very different in Denver. Seems like a fair approach.

Crabs, hawks, madlax, bethesda, rough riders, cannons, API , and every other club in md. All following MD rules and regulations

That's right - they are all grade based - so they won't be eligible as all have kids born before 9/1 - so either can't play or they leave those kids home and grab other kids

Maryland rules and regulations are GRADE Based Teams.......so all of them have "hold backs" - defined as kids born before 9/1.....so all maryland teams that are formed by Grade - most likely have kids that cannot play in WSYL. Long Island Teams will have 100% of the kids eligible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maryland rules and regulations are GRADE Based Teams.......so all of them have "hold backs" - defined as kids born before 9/1.....so all maryland teams that are formed by Grade - most likely have kids that cannot play in WSYL. Long Island Teams will have 100% of the kids eligible.

Where did they announce the change from 5/1 to 9/1?

Wsyl has been following the little league baseball World Series dates. If they continue to do so, the May 1 date will be in effect until 2018. This is the baseball statement.

"For players born on or before April 30, 2005: The new age determination date of August 31 will be effective starting with the 2018 Little League Baseball Season. For the 2016 and 2017 seasons, these players will use the April 30 age determination date "

Please rank the MD DC 2022 club teams objectively. Who has the most talent and/or best coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maryland rules and regulations are GRADE Based Teams.......so all of them have "hold backs" - defined as kids born before 9/1.....so all maryland teams that are formed by Grade - most likely have kids that cannot play in WSYL. Long Island Teams will have 100% of the kids eligible.

Where did they announce the change from 5/1 to 9/1?

US Lacrosse does state the following for youth Lacrosse;

Born 9/1/2003 through 8/31/2004 for U12. This is the rule they should follow. If they did this then teams would not have to game the rules like Legacy did this year - have their 2020 team play in a tournament that was really meant for U13/2021.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maryland rules and regulations are GRADE Based Teams.......so all of them have "hold backs" - defined as kids born before 9/1.....so all maryland teams that are formed by Grade - most likely have kids that cannot play in WSYL. Long Island Teams will have 100% of the kids eligible.

Where did they announce the change from 5/1 to 9/1?

US Lacrosse does state the following for youth Lacrosse;

Born 9/1/2003 through 8/31/2004 for U12. This is the rule they should follow. If they did this then teams would not have to game the rules like Legacy did this year - have their 2020 team play in a tournament that was really meant for U13/2021.

Get over it. The tournament was really meant for those born on or after 5/1/02. Just like next year it will be meant for those born on or after 5/1/03. No, my son was not on the winning team. Yes, my son was playing some kids more than a year older than him. So what? BTW the WSYL is not a US lacrosse event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please rank the MD DC 2022 club teams objectively. Who has the most talent and/or best coaching

The HoCo final standings are probably the most definitive list of the top MD VA DC clubs.

1. Hawks
2. Team Ninety One MD
3. API Diamondbacks
4. Madlax - Capital
5. Crabs
6. FCA - Blue
7. Bethesda Blue
8. Rough Riders
9. Cannons
10. Storm
11. 3D Select

Hawks
Api
Everyone else

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please rank the MD DC 2022 club teams objectively. Who has the most talent and/or best coaching

The HoCo final standings are probably the most definitive list of the top MD VA DC clubs.

1. Hawks
2. Team Ninety One MD
3. API Diamondbacks
4. Madlax - Capital
5. Crabs
6. FCA - Blue
7. Bethesda Blue
8. Rough Riders
9. Cannons
10. Storm
11. 3D Select

Agreed

Crabs were not very good, would take Rough riders over them and FCA. Just saw a pic of a Crab select 2023 team wining some championship that had 4 players from their 2022 team this season. How does that happen? Besides that that its is accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were not very good, would take Rough riders over them and FCA. Just saw a pic of a Crab select 2023 team wining some championship that had 4 players from their 2022 team this season. How does that happen? Besides that that its is accurate.

Crabs beat Rough Riders 8-5.
Crabs beat FCA 10-6.
Rough Riders and FCA traded wins this summer - about the same.

Some 2022 Crabs are dropping from 2022 to 2023 and others are trying out for other clubs as some 2021s drop down to 2022.

Drop down...the politically correct way of saying held back

I would say on rankings
Hawks
API or 91- they spilt 2-2 but the last time API crushed them.
Then everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Drop down...the politically correct way of saying held back

Do all of you guys read the other topics/grade forums on this site. Why are there people still shocked at the amount of reclassed kids on these DMV teams. The Private school system is 100% in line with boys repeating a grade. They get more money and the kids in theory get a better GPA. Both of these facts yelp them look good and have a successful business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Drop down...the politically correct way of saying held back

Do all of you guys read the other topics/grade forums on this site. Why are there people still shocked at the amount of reclassed kids on these DMV teams. The Private school system is 100% in line with boys repeating a grade. They get more money and the kids in theory get a better GPA. Both of these facts yelp them look good and have a successful business.

The last few years have been a eye opener for many people in Maryland outside the private school world. Most people were clueless about the whole prefirst grade and the reclass year in MIAA schools. Now that it is out in the public lacrosse arena. Many parents whose children are born between March and Aug watch their children play against the right age kids along with these prefirst/reclass kids a year older and more , ... ..the reaction is just what you would expect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Drop down...the politically correct way of saying held back

Do all of you guys read the other topics/grade forums on this site. Why are there people still shocked at the amount of reclassed kids on these DMV teams. The Private school system is 100% in line with boys repeating a grade. They get more money and the kids in theory get a better GPA. Both of these facts yelp them look good and have a successful business.

The last few years have been a eye opener for many people in Maryland outside the private school world. Most people were clueless about the whole prefirst grade and the reclass year in MIAA schools. Now that it is out in the public lacrosse arena. Many parents whose children are born between March and Aug watch their children play against the right age kids along with these prefirst/reclass kids a year older and more , ... ..the reaction is just what you would expect.

Yes I agree I have a son who is not the youngest for his grade but he is on the young side and on age for his grade. So when I see him play well it is hard not to wonder how much better he would of played if he was playing with kids on age. Or even worse when he has a bad game it gets under your skin knowing he was on the field with a kid 18 months older then him. And you can read any Medical book or ask a doctor or use your eyes to see boys from 13 to 16 years old grow so fast and its a huge advantage to be 18 months older then more then half the kids on the field.

I do not get it. If a family decides to holdback a child, why is it a huge advantage? A child on age may be 9 months older than a child in their grade. No one is complaining about kids who meet the cut-off being 9 months younger than the September birthdays. It's splitting hairs. All of these kids are going to be in high school and playing against athletes 3 or 4 years older. The way I see it is parents are placing too much emphasis on youth sports and need to realize it all balances out in high school. The unfortunate side is that there are stigmas placed on the child. So, leave the kids out of it and just encourage your child to do his best. No matter who he is facing. If there is a glass half full: They are getting prepared to play in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do not get it. If a family decides to holdback a child, why is it a huge advantage? A child on age may be 9 months older than a child in their grade. No one is complaining about kids who meet the cut-off being 9 months younger than the September birthdays. It's splitting hairs. All of these kids are going to be in high school and playing against athletes 3 or 4 years older. The way I see it is parents are placing too much emphasis on youth sports and need to realize it all balances out in high school. The unfortunate side is that there are stigmas placed on the child. So, leave the kids out of it and just encourage your child to do his best. No matter who he is facing. If there is a glass half full: They are getting prepared to play in high school.

Well its really the kid who is 18 months older then the youngest kid is the biggest issue. And when you see 30 or so 2020 kids already Verbal to D1 schools it is a big advantage. If you switch over and read the 2018 forum you will see that this class is already more then half way full at the D1 level. So these kids are 15 to 16 years old some 17 if they held back. So can you see the advantage yet. If you think about it they had to see these kids who Verbaled play at least 3 or more times. Over that time frame of a year or two. So if they are able to match up with a kid 18 months younger then them and show well you see how it works out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do not get it. If a family decides to holdback a child, why is it a huge advantage? A child on age may be 9 months older than a child in their grade. No one is complaining about kids who meet the cut-off being 9 months younger than the September birthdays. It's splitting hairs. All of these kids are going to be in high school and playing against athletes 3 or 4 years older. The way I see it is parents are placing too much emphasis on youth sports and need to realize it all balances out in high school. The unfortunate side is that there are stigmas placed on the child. So, leave the kids out of it and just encourage your child to do his best. No matter who he is facing. If there is a glass half full: They are getting prepared to play in high school.

Well its really the kid who is 18 months older then the youngest kid is the biggest issue. And when you see 30 or so 2020 kids already Verbal to D1 schools it is a big advantage. If you switch over and read the 2018 forum you will see that this class is already more then half way full at the D1 level. So these kids are 15 to 16 years old some 17 if they held back. So can you see the advantage yet. If you think about it they had to see these kids who Verbaled play at least 3 or more times. Over that time frame of a year or two. So if they are able to match up with a kid 18 months younger then them and show well you see how it works out.

30 kids out of how many??? Those kids are special, Holdback or not! The colleges they committed to know their ages and still committed. They see something special...Not a holdback!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do not get it. If a family decides to holdback a child, why is it a huge advantage? A child on age may be 9 months older than a child in their grade. No one is complaining about kids who meet the cut-off being 9 months younger than the September birthdays. It's splitting hairs. All of these kids are going to be in high school and playing against athletes 3 or 4 years older. The way I see it is parents are placing too much emphasis on youth sports and need to realize it all balances out in high school. The unfortunate side is that there are stigmas placed on the child. So, leave the kids out of it and just encourage your child to do his best. No matter who he is facing. If there is a glass half full: They are getting prepared to play in high school.

Well its really the kid who is 18 months older then the youngest kid is the biggest issue. And when you see 30 or so 2020 kids already Verbal to D1 schools it is a big advantage. If you switch over and read the 2018 forum you will see that this class is already more then half way full at the D1 level. So these kids are 15 to 16 years old some 17 if they held back. So can you see the advantage yet. If you think about it they had to see these kids who Verbaled play at least 3 or more times. Over that time frame of a year or two. So if they are able to match up with a kid 18 months younger then them and show well you see how it works out.

30 kids out of how many??? Those kids are special, Holdback or not! The colleges they committed to know their ages and still committed. They see something special...Not a holdback!

So you want to tell me how many of these special kids are also holdbacks. Or kids who started late? And you could be correct about this first 30 but what about the next 30 or the 30 after that. Its a very tricky process with how you play when this coach shows up to see you play. You will never be able to tell me its not a advantage. We can argue about how much of a advantage but it is a clear help to be held back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do not get it. If a family decides to holdback a child, why is it a huge advantage? A child on age may be 9 months older than a child in their grade. No one is complaining about kids who meet the cut-off being 9 months younger than the September birthdays. It's splitting hairs. All of these kids are going to be in high school and playing against athletes 3 or 4 years older. The way I see it is parents are placing too much emphasis on youth sports and need to realize it all balances out in high school. The unfortunate side is that there are stigmas placed on the child. So, leave the kids out of it and just encourage your child to do his best. No matter who he is facing. If there is a glass half full: They are getting prepared to play in high school.

Well its really the kid who is 18 months older then the youngest kid is the biggest issue. And when you see 30 or so 2020 kids already Verbal to D1 schools it is a big advantage. If you switch over and read the 2018 forum you will see that this class is already more then half way full at the D1 level. So these kids are 15 to 16 years old some 17 if they held back. So can you see the advantage yet. If you think about it they had to see these kids who Verbaled play at least 3 or more times. Over that time frame of a year or two. So if they are able to match up with a kid 18 months younger then them and show well you see how it works out.

30 kids out of how many??? Those kids are special, Holdback or not! The colleges they committed to know their ages and still committed. They see something special...Not a holdback!

So you want to tell me how many of these special kids are also holdbacks. Or kids who started late? And you could be correct about this first 30 but what about the next 30 or the 30 after that. Its a very tricky process with how you play when this coach shows up to see you play. You will never be able to tell me its not a advantage. We can argue about how much of a advantage but it is a clear help to be held back.

It's a temporary help. The long term affects -- loss of character and integrity is forever. I'm not bitter. I'm a private school parent. My kid is small. Teach hard work and honesty. The rest will come IF YOUR KID wants it. Don't get hung up on what other people do. You just do the right thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do not get it. If a family decides to holdback a child, why is it a huge advantage? A child on age may be 9 months older than a child in their grade. No one is complaining about kids who meet the cut-off being 9 months younger than the September birthdays. It's splitting hairs. All of these kids are going to be in high school and playing against athletes 3 or 4 years older. The way I see it is parents are placing too much emphasis on youth sports and need to realize it all balances out in high school. The unfortunate side is that there are stigmas placed on the child. So, leave the kids out of it and just encourage your child to do his best. No matter who he is facing. If there is a glass half full: They are getting prepared to play in high school.

Well its really the kid who is 18 months older then the youngest kid is the biggest issue. And when you see 30 or so 2020 kids already Verbal to D1 schools it is a big advantage. If you switch over and read the 2018 forum you will see that this class is already more then half way full at the D1 level. So these kids are 15 to 16 years old some 17 if they held back. So can you see the advantage yet. If you think about it they had to see these kids who Verbaled play at least 3 or more times. Over that time frame of a year or two. So if they are able to match up with a kid 18 months younger then them and show well you see how it works out.

30 kids out of how many??? Those kids are special, Holdback or not! The colleges they committed to know their ages and still committed. They see something special...Not a holdback!

So you want to tell me how many of these special kids are also holdbacks. Or kids who started late? And you could be correct about this first 30 but what about the next 30 or the 30 after that. Its a very tricky process with how you play when this coach shows up to see you play. You will never be able to tell me its not a advantage. We can argue about how much of a advantage but it is a clear help to be held back.

Not really a "help." Gives a false sense of accomplishment. House of cards.

All of this anger over holdbacks is based on the ultra-slim chance a child will be recruited in 8th grade?

As for injuries, the only serious one I saw this past weekend was a mother that got hit by a ball because she was yacking instead of watching the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of this anger over holdbacks is based on the ultra-slim chance a child will be recruited in 8th grade?

As for injuries, the only serious one I saw this past weekend was a mother that got hit by a ball because she was yacking instead of watching the game

There is also the harm of playing time if your son is stuck behind a 16 year old and he just turned 15 you can see some harm.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of this anger over holdbacks is based on the ultra-slim chance a child will be recruited in 8th grade?

As for injuries, the only serious one I saw this past weekend was a mother that got hit by a ball because she was yacking instead of watching the game

Yea..whats the harm of letting select kids that are held back get an advantage over all the other kids?? Yea whats the big deal..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do not get it. If a family decides to holdback a child, why is it a huge advantage? A child on age may be 9 months older than a child in their grade. No one is complaining about kids who meet the cut-off being 9 months younger than the September birthdays. It's splitting hairs. All of these kids are going to be in high school and playing against athletes 3 or 4 years older. The way I see it is parents are placing too much emphasis on youth sports and need to realize it all balances out in high school. The unfortunate side is that there are stigmas placed on the child. So, leave the kids out of it and just encourage your child to do his best. No matter who he is facing. If there is a glass half full: They are getting prepared to play in high school.

If you dont know that there is an advantage in a child being the oldest kid out on field with children under 15 , there is very little hope for you?? Why do these select children get to play down??? Why doesnt EVERYONE and EVERY CHILD get this advantage?? Why just these select heldback kids??
Spare me that the Strawman about poor children and the stigma.. Many parents hold their child back in kindergarten for an advantage, whether its for academics or sports....pretty simple..
And if you want some blame ..it sure isnt the public ..its the parents who elected to holdback their child for an advantage,,Blame them..
And dont tell me I dont know what I am talking about..I have two boys in private and one that already graduated. its a joke all the kids that are heldback in the MIAA schools..

Why no Hawks on Brine team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no Hawks on Brine team?

They didn't sign up. No one was cut that had money to pay.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no Hawks on Brine team?

They didn't sign up. No one was cut that had money to pay.

It's not about the money..fear you may not make a team.. Some kids go out of state just to get on a team....How bizarre is that ..Sad but true...sometimes easier to make team from another state.Ego is so big.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no Hawks on Brine team?

They didn't sign up. No one was cut that had money to pay.

It's not about the money..fear you may not make a team.. Some kids go out of state just to get on a team....How bizarre is that ..Sad but true...sometimes easier to make team from another state.Ego is so big.

For 2022 it is not a team, just an instructional camp. It is tough to make the high school teams, but Brine Middle school players are just paying for an expensive clinic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no Hawks on Brine team?

They didn't sign up. No one was cut that had money to pay.

It's not about the money..fear you may not make a team.. Some kids go out of state just to get on a team....How bizarre is that ..Sad but true...sometimes easier to make team from another state.Ego is so big.

For 2022 it is not a team, just an instructional camp. It is tough to make the high school teams, but Brine Middle school players are just paying for an expensive clinic.

The brine 2022 team for maryland was struggling finding players. They almost didn't even have enough to field a team. Total money grab event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no Hawks on Brine team?

They didn't sign up. No one was cut that had money to pay.

It's not about the money..fear you may not make a team.. Some kids go out of state just to get on a team....How bizarre is that ..Sad but true...sometimes easier to make team from another state.Ego is so big.

For 2022 it is not a team, just an instructional camp. It is tough to make the high school teams, but Brine Middle school players are just paying for an expensive clinic.

The brine 2022 team for maryland was struggling finding players. They almost didn't even have enough to field a team. Total money grab event.

How can you put a price on those sweet unis and the amazing time you'll have in Richmond while attending The Brine National Lacrosse Academy?

At what point do these kids get to take a break from lax and have a summer? There's more to being a 11/12 year old than sitting on the turf 11 months out of the year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At what point do these kids get to take a break from lax and have a summer? There's more to being a 11/12 year old than sitting on the turf 11 months out of the year

A break? Are you kidding me? They can't take a break if they want to get that 1/8 or 1/4 of a scholarship they are working towards.

My older son played high level soccer and they never took more than a two week break

Do travel baseball teams take off? It always feels like those kids are playing somewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older son played high level soccer and they never took more than a two week break

Do travel baseball teams take off? It always feels like those kids are playing somewhere

I agree all high level travel sports go 10 to 11 months a year. If you are lucky its 9 months. So please inform us how many months a year we are aloud to have our kids play a sport before we are not letting them be kids?

It's all way too much. Year round just leads to burnout and injuries at an early age. It's so stupid. The useless US Lacrosse organization should have some rules sanctioning hold backs and should have blackout dates when there are ZERO tournaments/camps going on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's all way too much. Year round just leads to burnout and injuries at an early age. It's so stupid. The useless US Lacrosse organization should have some rules sanctioning hold backs and should have blackout dates when there are ZERO tournaments/camps going on.

Lacrosse can be played all year long. It's not like baseball. It is as close to crossfit as you can. I can agree that you can play to many games in a day or two. But there is no reason you can not play it for 12 months. And burnout is not real. Kids get benched or beat out or lose a big game and they can not take it. It's not the games fault it's a weak kid who wants to always feel good and can not handle hard times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no Hawks on Brine team?

They didn't sign up. No one was cut that had money to pay.

It's not about the money..fear you may not make a team.. Some kids go out of state just to get on a team....How bizarre is that ..Sad but true...sometimes easier to make team from another state.Ego is so big.

No Hawks no crabs no 88+3 kids

For 2022 it is not a team, just an instructional camp. It is tough to make the high school teams, but Brine Middle school players are just paying for an expensive clinic.

The brine 2022 team for maryland was struggling finding players. They almost didn't even have enough to field a team. Total money grab event.

How can you put a price on those sweet unis and the amazing time you'll have in Richmond while attending The Brine National Lacrosse Academy?

LI kids playing for MD team...Why? I know because the parents are freakin NUTZ.

[quote=Anonymous]LI kids playing for MD team...Why? I know because the parents are freakin NUTZ.[/quote

SAD!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]LI kids playing for MD team...Why? I know because the parents are freakin NUTZ.[/quote

SAD!

Since the LI teams travel down to MD so much and the cost of the LI clubs seem to cost much more than MD clubs, it may not be a bad idea to just play for the MD club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]LI kids playing for MD team...Why? I know because the parents are freakin NUTZ.[/quote

SAD!

Since the LI teams travel down to MD so much and the cost of the LI clubs seem to cost much more than MD clubs, it may not be a bad idea to just play for the MD club.

where is this happening?

Virginia....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were not very good, would take Rough riders over them and FCA. Just saw a pic of a Crab select 2023 team wining some championship that had 4 players from their 2022 team this season. How does that happen? Besides that that its is accurate.

That's BS...Stop spreading lies...You have no idea what you are talking about...

There is a picture !! how is it not true..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were not very good, would take Rough riders over them and FCA. Just saw a pic of a Crab select 2023 team wining some championship that had 4 players from their 2022 team this season. How does that happen? Besides that that its is accurate.

That's BS...Stop spreading lies...You have no idea what you are talking about...

Spreading lies,, we all have seen the picture. But its ok, everyone knows that the crabs are holding back their players to can advantage. Half the 2022 team are now 2023 and half the 2021 is Know 2022.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were not very good, would take Rough riders over them and FCA. Just saw a pic of a Crab select 2023 team wining some championship that had 4 players from their 2022 team this season. How does that happen? Besides that that its is accurate.

That's BS...Stop spreading lies...You have no idea what you are talking about...

Spreading lies,, we all have seen the picture. But its ok, everyone knows that the crabs are holding back their players to can advantage. Half the 2022 team are now 2023 and half the 2021 is Know 2022.

Your grammar matches your opinions - ignorant. What do you do for a living?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs were not very good, would take Rough riders over them and FCA. Just saw a pic of a Crab select 2023 team wining some championship that had 4 players from their 2022 team this season. How does that happen? Besides that that its is accurate.

That's BS...Stop spreading lies...You have no idea what you are talking about...

Spreading lies,, we all have seen the picture. But its ok, everyone knows that the crabs are holding back their players to can advantage. Half the 2022 team are now 2023 and half the 2021 is Know 2022.

Your grammar matches your opinions - ignorant. What do you do for a living?

True, it seems the grammar is not as strong as it should be but it makes no difference what this poster does for a living, the fact is that Crabs are the king of holdbacks, at all age levels and this is the business model of the king Crab himself.
Just sit back and watch after try outs how many players on all of their teams drop down a year and thus, the holdback BS just continues.

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

Crabs will continue now and in the future to have the oldest age players. It is the MIAA kids team of choice ( not All I know)
and the MIAA are where the holdbacks/prefirst are.
Pretty sad to have kids playing down even at 9 and 10 years old, but it is what it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will continue now and in the future to have the oldest age players. It is the MIAA kids team of choice ( not All I know)
and the MIAA are where the holdbacks/prefirst are.
Pretty sad to have kids playing down even at 9 and 10 years old, but it is what it is.

This is a new one.....Crabs playing kids down at 9 and 10.....You are an idiot...Crabs does not start until the 5th grade....dumbskee....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

He did not play because he sucks....Let's face it...Good players do not sit on the bench at Crabs...He should join your son on his team so he can get more playing time...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

He did not play because he sucks....Let's face it...Good players do not sit on the bench at Crabs...He should join your son on his team so he can get more playing time...

Class act here. ^^^ Hold your heads high Crab parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

He did not play because he sucks....Let's face it...Good players do not sit on the bench at Crabs...He should join your son on his team so he can get more playing time...

After this post I've come to the conclusion that most of the people that post on here are just kids. And young ones at that.

Because that would be really sad if parents would post something like this about other kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

He did not play because he sucks....Let's face it...Good players do not sit on the bench at Crabs...He should join your son on his team so he can get more playing time...

After this post I've come to the conclusion that most of the people that post on here are just kids. And young ones at that.

Because that would be really sad if parents would post something like this about other kids.

Sadly, you are wrong.. Most of the time it is a parent.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

He did not play because he sucks....Let's face it...Good players do not sit on the bench at Crabs...He should join your son on his team so he can get more playing time...

After this post I've come to the conclusion that most of the people that post on here are just kids. And young ones at that.

Because that would be really sad if parents would post something like this about other kids.

Sadly, you are wrong.. Most of the time it is a parent.

I guess the anonymity makes it easy to be an @$$40l3, maybe more of one than one would normally be...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

He did not play because he sucks....Let's face it...Good players do not sit on the bench at Crabs...He should join your son on his team so he can get more playing time...

After this post I've come to the conclusion that most of the people that post on here are just kids. And young ones at that.

Because that would be really sad if parents would post something like this about other kids.

Sadly, you are wrong.. Most of the time it is a parent.

I guess the anonymity makes it easy to be an @$$40l3, maybe more of one than one would normally be...

Expect outrageous responses when you try to club bash... The original post is hearsay and full of lies....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

That's pretty funny. One 2022 kid played for Crabs 2023 in that tournament and he is repeating 6th grade this fall. He played on 3rd line midfield so as not to take kid's PT away.

As usual, people are spreading lies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

That's pretty funny. One 2022 kid played for Crabs 2023 in that tournament and he is repeating 6th grade this fall. He played on 3rd line midfield so as not to take kid's PT away.

As usual, people are spreading lies.

So all those Crabs kids are going to FCA for no reason?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will continue now and in the future to have the oldest age players. It is the MIAA kids team of choice ( not All I know)
and the MIAA are where the holdbacks/prefirst are.
Pretty sad to have kids playing down even at 9 and 10 years old, but it is what it is.

This is a new one.....Crabs playing kids down at 9 and 10.....You are an idiot...Crabs does not start until the 5th grade....dumbskee....

Oh missed it by a year! Last years 2023 Crabs ,which most teams oldest players should be 11 years old playing against the Crabs 12 year old players playing down. And we can go up in teams and ages till we get to some of the double holdback Crab players 16 years old playing against 14 years old players. Is that make you feel better??
Since you want it right, how about putting the birth dates of your Crabs team out here, It would clear up all the misunderstandings. We all think the Crabs organization have the most children playing down in age of any organization in the country?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know who or how many but was talking to the parents of a former teammate of my son and they were pissed that their son hardly played in this tournament because the Crabs pulled kids down from the 2022 team.

That's pretty funny. One 2022 kid played for Crabs 2023 in that tournament and he is repeating 6th grade this fall. He played on 3rd line midfield so as not to take kid's PT away.

As usual, people are spreading lies.

So all those Crabs kids are going to FCA for no reason?

I've seen the picture. There is only the one Crabs 2022 kid in it. Funny that you think you know what all these kids look like without their helmets on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will continue now and in the future to have the oldest age players. It is the MIAA kids team of choice ( not All I know)
and the MIAA are where the holdbacks/prefirst are.
Pretty sad to have kids playing down even at 9 and 10 years old, but it is what it is.

This is a new one.....Crabs playing kids down at 9 and 10.....You are an idiot...Crabs does not start until the 5th grade....dumbskee....

Oh missed it by a year! Last years 2023 Crabs ,which most teams oldest players should be 11 years old playing against the Crabs 12 year old players playing down. And we can go up in teams and ages till we get to some of the double holdback Crab players 16 years old playing against 14 years old players. Is that make you feel better??
Since you want it right, how about putting the birth dates of your Crabs team out here, It would clear up all the misunderstandings. We all think the Crabs organization have the most children playing down in age of any organization in the country?

..I guess you need an excuse why you these kids are so good... Wrong but Whatever works for you....

Univ of MD Legend Frank Urso just named as Head Coach of Brotherly Love 2022 Team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will continue now and in the future to have the oldest age players. It is the MIAA kids team of choice ( not All I know)
and the MIAA are where the holdbacks/prefirst are.
Pretty sad to have kids playing down even at 9 and 10 years old, but it is what it is.

This is a new one.....Crabs playing kids down at 9 and 10.....You are an idiot...Crabs does not start until the 5th grade....dumbskee....

Oh missed it by a year! Last years 2023 Crabs ,which most teams oldest players should be 11 years old playing against the Crabs 12 year old players playing down. And we can go up in teams and ages till we get to some of the double holdback Crab players 16 years old playing against 14 years old players. Is that make you feel better??
Since you want it right, how about putting the birth dates of your Crabs team out here, It would clear up all the misunderstandings. We all think the Crabs organization have the most children playing down in age of any organization in the country?

..I guess you need an excuse why you these kids are so good... Wrong but Whatever works for you....

Wrong??? About the Crabs dont have the most Holdbacks/prefirst of any Youth Lacrosse Organization in COUNTRY . Come on..It isnt like it is some big secret! LOL..

Crabs better hold back kids at this age group if they want to compete against the best this age group has to offer! Coming on here stating that the threads are lies , then admitting to it , but only saying its one player . Thats like catching my 6 year old taking the last cookie from the jar but saying he only had 1.
At this age group they are not even in the top 5 teams in MD. Not sure how they expect to get new kids at try outs either with honest parents when it is the norm to have holdbacks , not prefirst, but holdbacks in the 6th , 7th grades.
it is the world of youth lacrosse but don't come on here acting like its all a great big lie

These dads obsessed with the Crabs are funny. I've seen club lacrosse for a long time and you guys have no perspective.

Until the Crabs teams become 7th graders, they aren't as dominant as the talent is spread out. But every year, more and more top kids try out for the Crabs.

I have no idea who is the best 2022 team out there (and who really cares?) But you are a fool if you don't think the Crabs 2022 team will be immeasurably better now that it is a MS team. Other kids will try out, some kids will really improve/grow and some kids reclass.

You can hate them, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These dads obsessed with the Crabs are funny. I've seen club lacrosse for a long time and you guys have no perspective.

Until the Crabs teams become 7th graders, they aren't as dominant as the talent is spread out. But every year, more and more top kids try out for the Crabs.

I have no idea who is the best 2022 team out there (and who really cares?) But you are a fool if you don't think the Crabs 2022 team will be immeasurably better now that it is a MS team. Other kids will try out, some kids will really improve/grow and some kids reclass.

You can hate them, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

. We know exactly what we are talking about. Crabs 2022 could be better for 2016/2017 simply for the sole reason they will be loaded with holdbacks. Some of their 2021 players will drop down to 2022 while others reclass. This is the way the POS Ryan M runs his cesspool club. The holdback bs starts around 6th grade but Ryan M really gets it in full gear with 7th grade. And you are exactly correct, many, mostly all hate his organization and RM simply because of his cheating and gaming the system. But, ask him how his 2020 team did the past spring/summer. That team was loaded with holdbacks and some double holdbacks and several mostly on age teams beat them. But just keep on believing Crabs is the top program if that keeps you happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These dads obsessed with the Crabs are funny. I've seen club lacrosse for a long time and you guys have no perspective.

Until the Crabs teams become 7th graders, they aren't as dominant as the talent is spread out. But every year, more and more top kids try out for the Crabs.

I have no idea who is the best 2022 team out there (and who really cares?) But you are a fool if you don't think the Crabs 2022 team will be immeasurably better now that it is a MS team. Other kids will try out, some kids will really improve/grow and some kids reclass.

You can hate them, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

no idea , no perspective? you just stated everything that everyone has been saying on here about the crabs. That they really don't start fully recalling until MS. Which only happens in the private schools in b-more. Obsessed is a far cry from what is being said on here too. coming on here trying to defend something you have agreed with is a bit obsessive and typical from the exact parent and team my kids will never be around or play for. However my 12 year old will always get up to play against anyone in this 2022 group even if they are 14 and immeasurably better! Just like when he gets to high school.

no idea? No Perspective? too funny .

Will RR Coach Reese blame MM for the Bayhawks choking like animals and missing the playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will RR Coach Reese blame MM for the Bayhawks choking like animals and missing the playoffs?

Not cool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will RR Coach Reese blame MM for the Bayhawks choking like animals and missing the playoffs?

Whoever posted this is a total d bag.

Lighten up RawRider Nation!!! It's a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lighten up RawRider Nation!!! It's a joke

No, you need to lighten up. If that was a joke, it was a pis# poor one, about the same as you. And you continue to show everyone how much of an a hole you are by not even spelling the name of the program correctly, or maybe you are just too damn dumb to spell. Now go clean the toilets like your wife asked you to do this morning, what are you waiting for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lighten up RawRider Nation!!! It's a joke

No, you need to lighten up. If that was a joke, it was a pis# poor one, about the same as you. And you continue to show everyone how much of an a hole you are by not even spelling the name of the program correctly, or maybe you are just too damn dumb to spell. Now go clean the toilets like your wife asked you to do this morning, what are you waiting for?

Yeah, time to clean the toilets. I have to wash your season off the bowl, a hard stain for sure

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lighten up RawRider Nation!!! It's a joke

No, you need to lighten up. If that was a joke, it was a pis# poor one, about the same as you. And you continue to show everyone how much of an a hole you are by not even spelling the name of the program correctly, or maybe you are just too damn dumb to spell. Now go clean the toilets like your wife asked you to do this morning, what are you waiting for?

Yeah, time to clean the toilets. I have to wash your season off the bowl, a hard stain for sure

You're a stain on whoever it is you represent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lighten up RawRider Nation!!! It's a joke

No, you need to lighten up. If that was a joke, it was a pis# poor one, about the same as you. And you continue to show everyone how much of an a hole you are by not even spelling the name of the program correctly, or maybe you are just too damn dumb to spell. Now go clean the toilets like your wife asked you to do this morning, what are you waiting for?

Yeah, time to clean the toilets. I have to wash your season off the bowl, a hard stain for sure

Such a big man hiding behind anonymous forum. You just continue to show how much of a butt head you are. Have some balls and post your name and what club you are associated with.
I would bet it could be Team nine tee one Md. Come on big man, fess up.