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Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there it is again. It's being a "crybaby" now. Your attitude is exactly the problem. I am not speaking about college lacrosse, or even high level high school lacrosse. I am speaking about 6,7,8th grade girls. And I am 100pct sure you are the same person on the sidelines screaming at the refs that they don't know what they are doing. And that, sadly, is true. There is a lack of qualified referees and they are spread way too thin at the large tournaments. So to say, let the refs handle it, does not work.

We have coaches in our program who have played at the highest levels of women's lacrosse. And I don't just mean D1, I mean D1 all-americans and D1 national championship captains and Women's National Team members. So I think they have played a very aggressive style of lacrosse. But they teach the girls from a young age the right way to play. And they bench them if they see play that is dangerous. They hold the girls to a very high standard of sportsmanship. And over time, as their skills get to where they can both play aggressively, and within the rules, they let them. They know where to draw the lines. You don't.

You confuse fast, aggressive and physical with cheap, dirty and dangerous. You guys have lost where the line is. No crying here. Just pointing out the truth. And no, M&D and Skywalkers do not play the same brand of lax that YJ and TG do. Sorry you are in a class all by yourselves.


No, we don't all confuse fast, aggressive play with dirty play. Dirty play is dirty, checks to the wrist, kicks (yes, seen it and from YJ) when the refs aren't looking. Don't try to say that is aggressive play, that is just dirty.

Maybe your daughters All-American coaches don't coach that way and lucky for you and kudos to them. But some coaches must because it permeates the team. You can recognize those players in school games because they're still playing that way.


Division I championship game last year... Syracuse had 43 fouls and six yellow cards while Maryland had 24 fouls. Girls lacrosse is a physical game, get used to it. Three of the four top foul contributors for MD were from MD and other from LI. Cuse top four had two from MD, one from PA and one from LI. For Cuse's six cards, one was for the bench, two from MD, one from PA and two from upstate NY. Top players from all over the best lacrosse regions have a physical aspect to their game that results in fouls and cards. So bitter about YJ, you are blinded to actual reality.
Thank you for making our point for us. Not one person within this discussion said that girls lax wasn't a physical game, or that we are upset over the bumps and bruises of the game, for heaven sake I know they happen my daughter is a goalie. Our argument was and still is the "thug" mentality that runs rampantly unchecked in the Y.J. By stating there were so many fouls, though trying to have a "GOT YA" moment, only substantiates our argument. at the college level the refs are calling more fouls on more experienced players to keep control of the game, but I am sure most parents will agree in the youth and high school ranks the refs are not as good, and some teams take advantage of that. I am sure that when MD. teams play each other or N.Y. teams play each other there is a little more bumping and checking, that is to be expected. What we are talking about is the hard checks under the guise of "going hard for a ground ball", or the swings about the head, or the stick butts to the body as they run down the field, or the stick checks to the wrist. If your kid is checking a stick so hard that it can break a bone then she doesn't know how to check correctly and thats either your, or your coaches fault.


Here is an excerpt from Inside Lacrosse when Gary Gait was asked why his team had so many fouls and Yellow Cards.

Syracuse's pressure defense and aggressive style occasionally gets the Orange in trouble. Syracuse's 48 yellow cards were fourth most in Division I. Gait thought some of his defenders were robbed of All-American honors. "We sure do play aggressive," he said. "I know we certainly don't play dangerously. It's kind of a misleading stat. It's just the fact that we're out and we're going for the stick. There's really no other way to get the ball back."

I have had 2 daughters go through the YJ system. While each coach is different, the one constant (especially the Blue teams) is that YJ's usually has the most athletic players. When you have an athletic advantage, a good coach will try to take advantage of that, so many of the teams play the same style of high pressure defense as Syracuse does. It is very effective but it requires much more stick checking because the idea is to get the ball back unlike a heels on the 8 meter team who want to pack it in so you don't have space to take advantage of their match ups. The problem is that stick checking is as much as a skill as anything else, so the younger they are the more mishaps you will see. As the teams get older they get better at doubling the ball and controlling their sticks and have a clean take away. You can call it Thug ball or whatever you want to, but Those ARE the kids that are the most sought after by the colleges. Like any other sport women's lacrosse is all about getting a match up advantage and keeping possession of the ball. If you can cause turnovers and cover your girl you are gold!
it sounds to me like you and coach Gait are making excuses.quite frankly, it doesn't sound like the girls get any better at the aggressive stick checking. You also state that " those ARE the kids that are the most sought after by the colleges" but then state "unlike a heels on the 8 meter team who want to pack it in so you don't have space to take advantage of their match ups". Sounds like your kind of admitting that not all coaches are looking for that style of player. You're just justifying an egressive style. I don't know a coach at any level that wants a girl to take a card, put there team down a player, and chance a goal for a wild swing at someones head. By the way, how did it work out for "Cuse?


Worked them all the way to the national championship game and runner-up finish, second best team in the country.