US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2025-10th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023

Maybe, but the risk is being oversold sold by the second tier club that is full promises and under delivers. Fact is, imho, the 2nd team at an NLF level club is better than a 2nd tier club A team.

Anyone whose been at the NLF tournaments all years knows amount of college coaches there. It’s 3x more than any other tournament. Period. Hard enough to get looks why put odds against gettin seen.

Facts. Maybe Crabfeast, NAL and Naptown are on the same level. Playing for an NLF club does have an advantage imho. Just compare the 2024 commits from NLF clubs vs other clubs. I would say Legacy, IGLOO and S2S also do a good jobs with recruiting. Again, my opinion. But just going off the data.

It depends what level your kid wants to play at

Lol, fools. The thing that gets them over the hump is money. Like everything in life. Hi coach. Don't need or want any money. Go ahead and use that on your tier 1 guys. Admission spot is good enough and happy to support the program.

Not sure this is complete English but someone sure sounds bitter about Club Lax. But they aren’t wrong, all the clubs are in it for the money.

Could be my eyes but it seems there is a 5 star recruit from Chaminade who put out a highlight tape where they have some clips playing in fast forward so he looks faster. Like the flash!

Who cares. The schools that will recruit him have already seen him multiple times in person. The top players from this class have already been evaluated

Correct, and four and five star doesn’t even really need video. Ty Xanders list will be interesting to see if more than 5 crack the top 50 from Long Island. Long Island had 5 total last year in the top 50. And only one 5 star.

thats because some of the nlf 5 stars are not really that awesome - its all politics -

Not fair. They are great players on that lists and most will draw in high level interest. My point is that list is not inclusive of all and Xander’s list is. Now people will criticize that he favors one region over another, but three straight #1s he had from LI. No matter, any kid on either list NLF or Xanders is being recruited.

Any kid can be recruited.

Even Little Johnny? That kid has been getting a free ride from daddy since PAL! Has no left hand either.

Not a 91 parent. But they had an impressive showing in the IL lacrosse rankings. Which are still the best rankings imho, but it was heavy NLF based.

it was identical to NLF as if they put zero work into it

how many public schools on the list?

Not true. Yes, a lot of the same, obviously. But there are several different players. However, whatever lost your son makes, all good.

I am not a 91 parent either but they are definitely the Gold Standard of club lacrosse. If having the #1 team is the goal they are very impressive. Do they attract or develop players into the great players. I am inclined to think it 75% attracting great athletes and 25% development or something like that....

AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU AND NLF RANKS ARE MUCH MORE ACCURATE. COMPARE THEM TO OUTCOMES IN ACTUAL COLLEGE. NOT SAYING IL ISNT GOOD IT IS JUST NOT AS ACCURATE AS NLF RANKS.

Still gotta go with us club lax rankings. It’s just math and it’s the same ranking system the ncaa uses. And no, I’m not a 91 supporter but I do recognize they have been pretty good over the last 10 years

Politely have to disagree. Shock won the biggest one of the year. They should be undisputed #1.The NCAA ranks the #1 team based on who wins the trophy. Ranks do not matter ended in middle school.

It wasn’t only the win over Primetime who had a great summer and beat Shock last year. They put an absolute smack down on the 91 MD team.

Well if there was a club championship tournament like NCAA and the shock won then yes you could say that to they were best. But since there is none you gotta go with the math which is what the NCAA uses (up until the tournament) because then they shift to thunderdome style decision making

That being said, and it will never happen, it would be nice to have a seeded end of the summer club tournament.

Shock beat everyone and anyone, and beat 91MD head to head, and it was not close. And they beat everyone before and after.Why do you think every college from comes to watch the NLF, and Shock proved to everyone they are #1. Just like NCAA they won the tournament and NLF, IL, LM agree, all have them as first. Use your brain bucko.

Relax, USCL rankings is just a simple formula. Are you worried that when you tell people you're trying to impress that your kid won the national championship that they'll say: "according to USCL they were only 3rd"?

Totally agree with you on this. It’s math. Not sure I would chose Shock Daddy’s personal ranking over math and in all honesty, it’s high school club lax; nobody at this point cares about wins and losses.

As for them beating everybody, I guess those 5 losses were actually wins too

Youre full of BS. You did no such thing. Would be cool if you did but NLF rankings haven’t been around long enough to see how they translate to a college. And for the record, this is what a top D1 coach told when I asked about the rankings during a visit.

Why are facts so difficult for 91 parents. Beat everyone before and after? Lost to Schrieber 12-4, tied BBL Black, Lost to Eclipse 10-5 and lost to Primetime 9-4. So yes, you won the tournament but not the summer. Now, how 91MD is ranked #1 after avoiding everyone and losing in NLF is another debate but Shock has absolutely no claim to #1 based on winning 1 tournament. There is no weighting of tournaments. Prime times win at Naptown with a final win over Shock and a final loss to Shock could have them with a better argument for #1 than Shock. Alas, you can still tell your buddies on Express youre ranked higher than them and the guys down at the lot will think youre the man getting that full ride to LIU. Shock off!

Among IL's 2025 4 and 5 stars, The following club teams had the highest representation -

Sweetlax - 10
Team 91 MD - 10
Primetime - 9
Laxachusetts - 8
Team 91 shock - 8
Eclipse - 8
3D NE - 8
HHH - 7
Starz - 7
Hawks - 5
Leading Edge - 4

disagree - both players get recruited by the same group of schools (assuming they are the same level of player)

This conversation makes no sense. Who beat who, etc etc. it was clear when the summer ended that Shock was playing the best, and was the best at the end of the summer. It’s like any sports team, in any sport. Only the matters where you finish.

Best training by state right there!

Some random thoughts on a Monday morning 10 days after recruiting really started:

- Most of the "expertise" shared in this forum is far from it
- If your son is a rising junior and you still care about club team wins and losses you're not a good lacrosse parent
- If you want to learn about how different coaches approach recruiting you should listen to Inside Lacrosse's recent podcast series (I learned more in 10 minutes of that than years on this forum)

I genuinely hope all of your sons are enjoying the recruiting process and finding their best fits. That's what this is all about right?

If there was an end of the season tournament then yes. There is none. This isn’t like college or professional sports. There is no build up so just because shock one their last game doesn’t proclaim them the winner of the summer. Really not hard to comprehend.

Agree with this. Most expertise is one persons experience with their journey. But like any crowdsourcing forum, hopefully there are some truths in these forums.

But I also agree as I’ve also said above, no one cares about wins and losses for club high school lax and I use the term “no one” loosely because clearly there are still parents who are still living and dying by their clubs final ranking and desperately trying to prove how important it is to them, thus it must be important to everyone else that Shock be declared the champion of the summer