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Re: National Draw Tournament - June 21st-23rd, 2013
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Originally Posted by CageSage
Semifinal Pairings

Girls 2017

Yellow Jackets 2017 Baker vs. Dynamite 2017 Black
Team Elevate 2017 Blue vs. M&D 2017 Red

Girls 2018

Garden State Elite 2018 vs. Yellow Jackets 2018 Rose
Mass Elite 2018/YJ 2018 Incarnato vs. M&D 2018 Black

Girls 2019

M&D 2019/2020 vs. Yellow Jackets 2019 Costa
Yellow Jackets 2019 Bertolone vs. M&D 2019 Black

Girls 2020/2021

Yellow Jackets 2021 Skakandi vs. Yellow Jackets 2020 Jones
Winner vs. Yellow Jackets 2020 Curcio


Anyone have updates on these games?

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Originally Posted by CageSage
Semifinal Pairings

Girls 2017

Yellow Jackets 2017 Baker vs. Dynamite 2017 Black
Team Elevate 2017 Blue vs. M&D 2017 Red

Girls 2018

Garden State Elite 2018 vs. Yellow Jackets 2018 Rose
Mass Elite 2018/YJ 2018 Incarnato vs. M&D 2018 Black

Girls 2019

M&D 2019/2020 vs. Yellow Jackets 2019 Costa
Yellow Jackets 2019 Bertolone vs. M&D 2019 Black

Girls 2020/2021

Yellow Jackets 2021 Skakandi vs. Yellow Jackets 2020 Jones
Winner vs. Yellow Jackets 2020 Curcio


Anyone have updates on these games?
Reports were that Team Elevate 2017, Yellow Jackets 2018 (Rose), M&D 2019 Black, and Yellow Jackets 2020 (Jones) were the champions. We are waiting for final score details from the tournament staff.

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Semifinal/Championship Results

Girls 2017 Semifinals

Dynamite 2017 Black defeat Yellow Jackets 2017 Baker, 6-4
Team Elevate 2017 Blue defeats M&D 2017 Red, 3-2

Girls 2017 Championship

Team Elevate 2017 defeats Dynamite 2017 Black, 6-1

Girls 2018 Semifinals

Yellow Jackets 2018 Rose defeats Garden State Elite 2018, 13-1
M&D 2018 Black defeats Mass Elite 2018, 10-1

Girls 2018 Championship

Yellow Jackets 2018 Rose defeats M&D 2018 Black, 4-3

Girls 2019 Semifinals

Yellow Jackets 2019 Costa defeats M&D 2019/2020, 8-3
M&D 2019 Black defeats Yellow Jackets 2019 Bertolone, 4-3

Girls 2019 Championship

M&D 2019 Black defeats Yellow Jackets 2019 Costa, 6-1

Girls 2020/2021 Semifinal

Yellow Jackets 2020 Jones defeats Yellow Jackets 2021 Skakandi, 5-2

Girls 2020/2021 Championship

Yellow Jackets 2020 Jones defeats Yellow Jackets 2020 Curcio, 4-3

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Girls 2019 Bracket

Baltimore GP W L T % + - % +/- Pts TB
DEWLAX 19/20 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Tri-State 19 NJ 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Nor'easter 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
CC Lax 19/20 Red 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
2 Knights Gold 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Monarchs 19/20 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Zebra 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Lax Chicks 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0

Columbus GP W L T % + - % +/- Pts TB
Brick Bandits 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Garden State Elite 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
YJ 19 Cook 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
M&D 19/20 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Team United 19/20 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Ultimate NJ 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0

EL Paso GP W L T % + - % +/- Pts TB
HOS Lacrosse 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Lady Roc 19 Yellow 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Dynamite 19 Red 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Mavericks Green 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
LI Top Guns 19 Purple 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
YJ 19 Burtolone 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0

Las Vegas GP W L T % + - % +/- Pts TB
Brandywine Majors 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Dynamite 19 Black 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Bucks Select 19/20 Reid 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
CC Lax 19/20 Black 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
YJ 19 Costa 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Ultimate PA 19 Blue 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0

New [lacrosse] GP W L T % + - % +/- Pts TB
Team Elevate 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
Rev Westchester 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
QCLAX 19 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
M&D 19 Black 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
LI Top Guns 19 Black 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0
YJ 19 Carro 0 0 0 0 n/a 0 0 n/a 0 0

Can anyone explain to me why the top three teams in the 19 & 20 divisions are all in the same bracket with the weaker teams filling out the other brackets? Especially the 20's which only has 3 brackets, the winner of the palm springs bracket will win playoff game against the cleveland/durham winner by double digits! Same goes for new [lacrosse] bracket in 19 division, lady roc 19 is probably the only team that can play a competitive game against the winner of that bracket, but I wouldn't count on it. Nice job with schedule!


Double Digits?! That's why they play the games!!

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Girls 2015 Bracket - Friday Results

Yellow Jacket 2015 outscored their opponents 38-1 in their San Diego Bracket matches.



Yellow Jackets had a very strong weekend but before you get too excited about that 38-1 realize that 21 of those points were against a way overmatched team that played half the game a girl down because they had no subs and one girl was injured (not in the YJ game). Just a little perspective. ;-)
Shouldn't perspective be applied before the final scores of 21-1 and 17-0 are posted? Think about it. Trust me when we tell you that BOTC did not consider the 38-1 total to be a "high"-light.

Look, we understand that the four-game group schedule in six-team brackets forces teams to play for goals-against and goals-for, but at one point should a tournament cap these numbers? Why are we encouraging thrashing teams at this level and then preaching good sportsmanship?


This topic has been brought up numerous times on other boards. This year certain age groups had stacked brackets. That's ok if you take the top two teams from the "power brackets." However, when you have top teams being knocked out because they have to play each other is ridiculous.

Lastly, having one of the tie breakers be goal differential promotes running up the score. All the tournament needs to do is put Ina maximum goal differential for any one game.

If National Draw keeps this up, I think they will continue to lose teams.

IWCLA needs to smarten up and join forces with other tournaments, so the clubs are not FORCED to go to tournaments that are only run by Corrigan Sports. Clubs need to ban together so that we can have tournaments that involve all ages and can still be a recruiting tournament.

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Girls 2015 Bracket - Friday Results

Yellow Jacket 2015 outscored their opponents 38-1 in their San Diego Bracket matches.



Yellow Jackets had a very strong weekend but before you get too excited about that 38-1 realize that 21 of those points were against a way overmatched team that played half the game a girl down because they had no subs and one girl was injured (not in the YJ game). Just a little perspective. ;-)
Shouldn't perspective be applied before the final scores of 21-1 and 17-0 are posted? Think about it. Trust me when we tell you that BOTC did not consider the 38-1 total to be a "high"-light.

Look, we understand that the four-game group schedule in six-team brackets forces teams to play for goals-against and goals-for, but at one point should a tournament cap these numbers? Why are we encouraging thrashing teams at this level and then preaching good sportsmanship?

This topic has been brought up numerous times on other boards. This year certain age groups had stacked brackets. That's ok if you take the top two teams from the "power brackets." However, when you have top teams being knocked out because they have to play each other is ridiculous.

Lastly, having one of the tie breakers be goal differential promotes running up the score. All the tournament needs to do is put Ina maximum goal differential for any one game.

If National Draw keeps this up, I think they will continue to lose teams.

IWCLA needs to smarten up and join forces with other tournaments, so the clubs are not FORCED to go to tournaments that are only run by Corrigan Sports. Clubs need to ban together so that we can have tournaments that involve all ages and can still be a recruiting tournament.


U.S. Lacrosse caps there regionals and nationals at an 8 goal differental, 8-0,16-2,24-3 etc. those scores are not becoming either.They need to consider a method adopted by some "soccer" tournaments. Points are not only based on wins, losses and ties but shutouts, goals for and against with a ceiling on differental(doesnt matter if you win by twenty of seven) max points of 2 or 3 would be allotted once at what ever tourney standards are set for goal differntial. this way you would create many more opportunities to get or lose points lessoning the chance of reaching some of these tie breakers which would still be in place in case of ties at the end of pool play. Just a thought and I know "soccer is a dirty word in the lacrosse community.

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Re: National Draw Tournament - June 21st-23rd, 2013
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Team Elevate '17's are a disgrace to the game. Hacks, whiners and floppers. Worst parents on the planet - they were actually booted from the sidelines in the semi-final for their crass behavior. You guys will get yours for sure.

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