Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s hilarious is that Mad Dog National (with several Nationals players) won the tournament and beat Madlax 8-0 in the semi-finals

Yes, it is fun for Madlax detractors when one of their teams gets beaten, but like it or not, this event was a massive success for MadLax. It used to be a joke tournament with only MadLax' own teams and B level competition in attendance. But now it draws the very best national and regional all-star teams, plus the top-ranked "real" teams. Most of the MadLax teams finished at or near the top of large, elite fields. For example, the 2027 MadLax team went 4-1, with its only loss to Mad Dog Nationals, ranked #2 in US Club lax rankings, and they beat Nation's Best, which seems to have taken the place of Nationals, 7-5. The 2026 MadLax team went 3-2, losing to SweetLax and LI Express CoachC, the top two teams in the country. The 2025 MadLax team won its division, beating Crabs, West Coast Starz, Sweetlax. The 2029 ML team finished second, losing 8-4 to Nation's Best, in the finals. If I were Cabell (trust me, I am not) I would far prefer to have elite competition and my own teams win some/lose some, rather than a cream puff event where my teams collect all the trophies.


There is so much bad information here, its truly amazing. Nationals didn't cheat last year, that's incorrect and just an excuse that parents use when their teams lose. The clubs that run the Club Nationals Tournament don't like Nationals poaching their players and are trying to end Nationals business model, by boxing them out of tournaments. Plain and simple. And Mad Dog '27 was essentially Nationals '27 from last year, but for a few players. We need some fact checking here.

Correct. The idea that Nationals must have cheated was floated on this board. Cabel would have most certainly changed the results to show forfeits. https://tourneymachine.com/Public/R...rnament=h202011111413287002971da302a3c4d

Yes, Mad Dog Nationals now have a number of players from the Nationals. I wouldn't call them "essentially" but these were Denver and west coast players who have found the travel expenses too much for the Nationals program. All of the national team programs are always in great flux due to travel and location but the better players keep going to them.

Nation's Best is the national program for 3Step who bought the Hawks. They are the big bully on the block and aren't done in their acquisitions in the DC area.

Madlax can't stem the national team programs and has fallen behind them because CM's personality and repuation precedes him. Nationals doesn't have a regional club base network in which to draw upon so we'll see if they can keep it up.